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    This board is dedicated to the discussion of history and the other humanities such as philosophy, religion, law, classical artwork, archeology, anthropology, ancient languages, etc. Please use /lit/ for discussions of literature. Threads should be about specific topics, and the creation of "general" threads is discouraged.

    For the purpose of determining what is history, please do not start threads about events taking place less than 25 years ago. Historical discussions should be focused on past events, and not their contemporary consequences. Discussion of modern politics, current events, popular culture, or other non-historical topics should be posted elsewhere. General discussions about international culture should go on /int/.

    /his/ is not /pol/, and Global Rule #3 is in effect. Do not try to treat this board as /pol/ with dates. Blatant racism and trolling will not be tolerated, and a high level of discourse is expected. History can be examined from many different conflicting viewpoints; please treat other posters with respect and address the content of their post instead of attacking their character.

    When discussing history, please reference credible source material, and provide as much supporting information as possible in your posts.

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    Sir Winston Spencer "the Lion" Churchill will always be remembered as a hero who saved the British Empire and our pristine English motherland from hordes of subhuman germanic nazi apes.
    No matter what /pol/jeets and contrarian retard faggots claim

    Was boiling Quechua peasants into soup the secret to communism after all?
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    >>18768775

    By the way retard, Japanese government statistics aren't reliable

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/sep/10/japenese-centenarians-records

    >More than 230,000 Japanese people listed as 100 years old cannot be located and many may have died decades ago, according to a government survey released today.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11258071

    >More than 230,000 elderly people in Japan who are listed as being aged 100 or over are unaccounted for, officials said following a nationwide inquiry.

    >An audit of family registries was launched last month after the remains of the man thought to be Tokyo's oldest were found at his family home.


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    >>18768852

    A Japanese POW admitted all of Japan's casualty stats are bullshit (this downplayed 1700 number wasn't even counted in the official Japanese military encyclopedia of the Pacific war)

    https://apjjf.org/tsuneishi-keiichi/2194/article

    >Beginning in 1942, Japan began dropping pathogens from airplanes into battlefield zones, on a scale that amounted to a combat operation. In April, Japan launched the Zhejiang campaign. In this campaign, Ishii and company carried out massive biological weapons attacks. Cholera bacteria was the main pathogen employed, and the attacks resulted in more than 10,000 casualties. It has also been reported that some victims contracted dysentery and the plague. More than 1700 soldiers died, mostly from cholera. This would have been considered a great success for the Ishii group, but for the fact that all of the victims were Japanese soldiers.

    >A Japanese medic captured by American forces at the end of 1944 described the casualties among the Japanese army during his interrogation: “When Japanese troops overran an area in which a [biological weapons] attack had been made during the Chekiang [Zhejiang] campaign in 1942, casualties upward from 10,000 resulted within a very brief period of time. Diseases were particularly cholera, but also dysentery and pest [bubonic plague]. Victims were usually rushed to hospitals in rear. … Statistics which POW saw at Water Supply and Purification Dept Hq at Nanking showed more than 1,700 dead, chiefly from cholera; POW believes that actual deaths were considerably higher, ‘it being a common practice to pare down unpleasant figures.’” [3]

    Japan's real TFR is most likely below 1 already.
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    >>18768765
    David Rockefeller's great granddaughter Ariana is being fucked by Turk Enes Kanter.
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    >>18766716
    Communists do AI slop propaganda nowadays? Also looking at the number of fingers they use old models.
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    >>18763736
    https://x.com/visegrad24/status/2067181163160985986

    Shocking 219-page report reveals scale of UK grooming gangs scandal

    Independent MP
    @RupertLowe10
    has released a devastating independent inquiry exposing the systematic sexual exploitation of at least 250,000 young, mostly white British girls by predominantly Pakistani Muslim grooming gangs over the last decades.

    Almost 19,000 children were identified as sexual exploitation victims in England in one year alone.

    Many victims were as young as 11.

    The overwhelming majority of the rape gang networks consisted entirely of men from Muslim backgrounds — predominantly of Pakistani heritage, although smaller groups from Somali, Iranian, Syrian, Turkish, and other Muslim origins were also involved.


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    How did Marathas fumble this?
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    The British had a superior navy and had control over their ports. There was also infighting going on which the British had leverage over. It's a classic "divide and conquer" textbook example.
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    >>18767279
    Because the brits defeated them.
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    >>18767279
    That's a bad map. It doesn't show the divisions within the Maratha Confederacy. The Maratha consisted of five major dynastic states plus minor states and tributaries.
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    Because they weren't a real unified nation. "Confederacy" is apt, but painting them as one big happy family isn't.
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    >>18767382
    It’s similar to Medieval Eastern Europe. Both had forces that wished to unify all of their particular region under themselves (Byzantine Empire/Mughal Empire), both had dissenting kingdoms of many different peoples speaking different languages and variants of religion inhabiting their regions, and both were eventually conquered and unified by outside forces (Ottomans and USSR/British). Except in the case of the Indians they were able to gain a sense of national identity with the ample help of the British.

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    Was Rhodesia really as based as some people say?
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    >>18768726
    >>18768727
    >xiansheng the eastern goblins xiiiiiiaaaaannnnnssssssheeeeeennnngggg
    keep coping
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    >>18768352
    >actually Whites are pedo incest rapists
    May we see the evidence for this?
    >>18768212
    >hardly functional
    >erm Rhodesia didn’t heckin work for the illiterate proto-human Hominids that wandered in looking to leech off of White people
    ??????
    Rhodesia was an exceptionally functional state producing many great people because it produced White people.
    Whites are better. What evidence do you need to see to admit this?
    Go on, tell me, I can wait.
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    the funniest part is how the american mercs just ran away and were pussies.
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    >>18768888
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    >>18768907

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    You can't really blame the south for jim crow
    Mississippi
    >59% black during the 1900 census
    >majority black in the 1930 census
    South Carolina
    >61% black in the 1880 census
    >majority black in the 1920 census
    Lousiana
    >majority black in the 1890 census
    Alabama
    >48% black in the 1880 census
    Georga
    >48% black in the 1880 census
    Florida
    >49% black in the 1870 census

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    i liked dumbo but the scene where his mom chimped out was scary
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    >>18768889
    What's the issue?
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    >>18768889
    Move out whitey, our states now!

    >Enjoy Hell

    Does the poster who constantly spams this phrase realise that it is a sin to proclaim someone else will go to hell?
    That it is a sin to claim such knowledge, or to take joy or happiness in proclaiming you know someone else's doom?

    Sources:
    >Matthew 5:22
    But I say to you that if you are angry with a brother or sister, you will be liable to judgement, and if you insult a brother or sister, you will be liable to the council, and if you say, ‘You fool,’ you will be liable to the hell of fire.
    >Matthew 7:1-2
    Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For the judgement you give will be the judgement you get, and the measure you give will be the measure you get.
    >James 4:12
    There is one lawgiver and judge who is able to save and to destroy. So who, then, are you to judge your neighbour?
    >Romans 14:4
    Who are you to pass judgement on slaves of another? It is before their own lord that they stand or fall. And they will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make them stand.


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    >>18768883
    Right; You can't read, and you can't understand the Bible, because you don't have God's spirit. You're going to Hell. Any questions?
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    >>18768898
    Explain what it actually says then
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    >>18768899
    What's the point? I already did, and you immediately started shitting yourself. What would be different this time? Did you get that lobotomy? No? Then why are you wasting my time?
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    >>18768900
    Certainly didn't explain it to me. To me it looks like you can't read at all and someone just told you what to believe.
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    >>18768903
    Great! Enjoy burning. I won't shed a tear for trash like you.

    Why is there even a "debate" about whether the industrial revolution was a good thing or not?

    Living standards for the working class(working hours, incomes, safety) was all radically improved from 1800 to 1900. All of this was a result of production becoming more efficient, less inputs being used to produce more outputs. It was the working class who was receiving the end stage output of this production. No, it had literally nothing to do with unions or government passing laws, the improvements happened mostly in non-union sectors.

    The people that deny this are sociopaths that want to block this poverty reducing process and deserve to be imprisoned or executed as traitors to the working class. I'm talking about socialists, fascists, central bank supporters and communists. They all deserve death.
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    >>18768009
    >maoist china was capitalism, GOT IT
    Yes but unironically, same with Stalin's Soviet Union
    The emphasis might lay more heavily on the state part of state capitalism but state capitalism is still capitalism
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    >>18768600
    >this horror hellscape my ideology created is actually YOUR FAULT chud
    This is why nobody takes marxists seriously, they aren't serious people.
    Is north korea state capitalism too even though the government literally owns everything?
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    >>18768609
    I don't give a fuck about ideology i am not talking about ideology. When I am talking about capitalism I am not talking about an ideology i am talking about an economic system.
    >even though the government owns everything
    Yes, even if the government owns everything. Socialism isn't just "the government does stuff" and capitalism isn't just "the government does nothing"
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    >>18768627
    >i am talking about an economic system.
    Me too?
    I was just referring to your marxist ideology, which is why you believe in retarded things like "state capitalism".
    >Yes, even if the government owns everything.
    LOL Okay. Please tell me why north korea is still "capitalism". This should be funny.
    >Socialism isn't just "the government does stuff" and capitalism isn't just "the government does nothing"
    I didn't say they simply do stuff. I said they own the means of production. They do this through a workers vanguard party. Capitalism and private property are not allowed. How is this magically "capitalism"?
    Try answering without being dishonest.
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    >>18768701
    >state capitalism
    is hardly an exclusively marxist concept.
    >They do this through a workers vanguard party. Capitalism and private property are not allowed. How is this magically "capitalism"?
    >Try answering without being dishonest.
    In marxist terminology what you describe would be called the Dictatorship of the Proletariat. The DotP is not socialism, the primary features of capitalist production remain in place, but the state is now in the hands of a party which represents the class interests of the Proletariat. There you now have the actual marxist answer.
    >but private property-
    Property owned by the state rather than a single individual is still property. A business enterprise managed by state administrators is still a business enterprise.

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    Is it just copying anti slavic chauvinism from westerners?

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    Post it.
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    Ahhh, so desu ka?
    These things never make any sense to me, I quibble with just about every question.
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    >>18768876
    >But, physics tells us that it's also fundamentally unpredictable
    Shut up, pseud.
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    >>18768877
    I got the same retarded result. Eh
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    >>18768885
    Honestly I think I just don't really much care about philosophy. I'm not convinced that a test that would settle the "do we have free will?" question could even be designed, but that's not a stance on free will. It just doesn't seem worth worrying about.
    So much of philosophy seems to be just trying to axiom your way in to unattainable answers.
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    I got…Mencius, and…Edith Stein?

    I’m more aligned with Western religious philosophy than Eastern, so guess it’s time to read up on some analytical Thomism or whatever the 20th century revival of scholasticism was called. What’re y’all’s recs? I only know Stein and Alasdair MacIntyre.

    >Taco Bell first added the Chalupa to their menu in 1999
    What have been the long-term historical consequences of this?
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    >>18765334
    >basically indigenous frybread as a taco
    This is not new and the historical consequences were disastrous for the indigenous a century earlier. Like, what did you expect?
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    >>18767169
    it was a different time

    >>18767178
    I'm sure you'll remember eventually
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    went there for lunch today and found out someone ordered 100 tacos for some event
    was pretty interesting waiting for my food and watching them making tacos and putting them into a box
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    >>18768860
    What kind of cheap corporate event orders catering from taco bell?!?
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    >>18768892
    maybe a start up? also was never mentioned what kind of event so it could have been a birthday, a video game thing, or someone really wanted 100 tacos
    honestly i was wondering how the tacos were gonna stay warm? surely by the 40th or 50th taco the first few were losing their warmth

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    I normally don't say this often, but this is one of those times where "thing, Japanese thing" is unironically warrented. They were mogged by superior conquistadores and only become better with more European influence over time.

    Why do Protestants glorify and even larp as them?
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    >>18768169
    He's just a Protestant Timmy projecting onto latinx folx
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    >>18768495
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    >>18768077

    Stop memeing this shit. There's is no historical record of Spanish soldiers fighting samurai. The alleged Battle of Caguyan is based on the tall tale of an alcoholic Spanish sailor. No official military and bureaucratic account corroborates this story.

    >They were mogged by superior conquistadores and only become better with more European influence over time.

    Contrary to retarded modern views, the Europeans in Asia were smart enough to avoid open conflict with the regional powers. They were too small in numbers to present a formidable force, and in the few instances they pissed off the regional powers, they got swatted like flies.

    >Why do Protestants glorify and even larp as them?

    Orientalism
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    >>18768077
    The Cagayan batttle was fought against a group of Wokou, which were motley crews of both japanese and chinese pirates. According to the updated Wikipedia article, only a handful of them were ever Ronin. You're basically acting like a Caribbean pirate crew was actually composed of knights fully arrayed in beautiful plate armor because a captain somewhere received a title or two while working as a corsair for a kingdom.

    >>18768162
    The battle was fought in the Philippines against a band of pirates, so it is quite unlikely for there to have been any Japanese women around.
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    >>18768481
    Japan wasn't into fighting outside of Japan

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    Is this newly consecrated Catholic Bishop a Freemason?
    He uses the masonic phrase ‘friendship and love’ within the first 25 seconds of his address.
    https://youtu.be/VRjbdgx8ndc
    This phrase originates from the Masonic initiation ritual and is found throughout Masonic literature and art.
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    >>18768865
    >Join them, it's good people. Better than anyone you've ever hung out with
    What makes them 'better'? Just because they're members of a club? A virtuous person doesn't need to join a team in order to be virtuous.
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    >>18768870
    I'm just saying they are virtuous. It's amazing what good men they are every where I go. I never tell them my Gpa was one because none of us care about that. We just care about trying to be good people

    Now my only friend that struggled with heroin addiction, chad white dude trust fundz he blew up on the Knights but he was also a Mason and not friends with them anymore either. He hasn't left his house in 3 years. He's losing it. No friends, life is over. I keep telling him to join the Mens Club

    You guys have virtue, you would too or at least would ally with them
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    >>18768879
    >he was also a Mason
    He did this bc his non-Catholic boss (his wife's Dad) and non-Catholic wife urhed him too
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    >>18768870
    >>18768879
    >>18768881
    Oh expect blue collar types but successful blue collar, which is how the Masons probably were in Founding Father times. Now its all Jew. All rich and powerful. In the American suburbs at least. 90% white out there, 100% at Mens Club & Knights. Now I'm in the city by downtown where I have 50% black in my neighborhood, very rich white in two directions hood the other, and more sketchy mixed like mine the other
    But we white taking over the hood fast. You bitches that hate niggers ain't doing shit yo get out back except. We shall see if it's like how it was it the white suburbs (which still had rich, upper middle, lower middle and poor white just in the white areas, which was most of them)
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    >>18768891
    To specific:

    My friend that did both KofC and Masons, he took me to the downtown hub of the KofC, still no Jews. But Masons? All Jews. All rich and powerful
    Confirmed by my other psycho friend that joined the Masons and quit. Both for same reasons: bc they wanted to hit someone like a nigger. You're all niggers here on 4chan. When is the last time you did a community service project? You're a fucking nigger. Lower than a nigger as they at least get into Christianity (they are the most conservative, you would love each other,)

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    Why do muslims still exist? It's honestly sad like move on from the middle-ages already.
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    >>18768716
    >a few Bible verses
    Have a full chapter then.
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    >>18768728
    I'm not talking or reading anything you post. I'm 50 years old, I don't have time for dumbass kids. That's why I don't have kids and that's why I don't teach classes
    Just quit being dumb. Realize you're going to be dumb as shit until you're 80 then you die thinking about what and idiot you were
    I was most definitely just as dumb as you when I was your age and it's painful to remember
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    >>18768734
    >50yo
    >on 4chan
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    >>18768741
    You're the one on here on the only Halloween Saturday for the next 11 years. I'm mad I'm not out but it's raining
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    It's still around for a multitude of reasons, but mostly because it lets you own women. Kind of why mormons are still around too

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    how can anyone mistake a circumcised jewish rabbi for divinity? its utterly preposterous
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    >>18768771
    Tick tock.
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    >>18768840
    I notice how instead of addressing a single point you just attack the person who's making the points. This reflects on you more than on anybody else. I take it you believe in the bible?
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    >>18768842
    Just stay focused on the Jesus, who you are a massive disappointment to, the Holy Spirit you are crushing with your sheet retardation, and try not to kill yourself
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    >>18768847
    I don't care about a dead Jewish cult leaders approval, much less from a modern cult follower who hates history.
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    >>18768840
    No one here thinks you are smart.



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