Why do muslims still exist? It's honestly sad like move on from the middle-ages already.
>>18768290Unironically I'm the guy on the bottom left
>>18768290They aren't very smart
>>18768290>Why do muslims still exist?Because there isn't a strong enough reason for them not to.Islam can't just disappear. Something has to replace it
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>>18768290How secular are modern muslim cunts on average?
>>18768344Not very, the vast majority still hold conservative social values and believe sharia to be a legitimate form of governance.
>>18768374> believe sharia to be a legitimate form of governance.It is lol
>>18768290I kinda like posting on this board. The people here seem neither clever, nor hopelessly stupid. They're perfectly dull, like soggy bread dipped in milk. The very picture of nerdy out of shape software engineers trying to impress suzan with their pythons (the code).>When the Prophet finished praying, he faced the people and said to them: Do you know what the Lord of the worlds has said? He said: This morning one of my servants became a believer in Me. For he said: We have been given rain by virtue of Allah and His mercy (al-Bukhari)
>>18768403>They're perfectly dullYou'll fit right in then
>>18768425I do
>>18768403I know i'll regret asking but what convinces you these semitic fairytales are real?
>>18768290Cause religions aren't simply belief systems people can freely choose, that's Enlightenment Era thinking. They are also deeply connected to culture and in Muslim countries their whole civilization is rooted in Islam. It's the same reason why you have a bunch of Christian LARPers on the internet. It's not about the scripture, no one gives a fuck about that, it's about the historic relationship between Christianity and the West.>>18768309The Gulf countries seem to be doing away with Islam as their main identity and trying to remodel as this Trans-humanist hub of the future.
>>18768440>deeply connected to culture and in Muslim countries their whole civilization is rooted in IslamSo was christianity in the west
>>18768440Also in antiquity, the line between culture, politics, and religion was far blurrier. It is impossible to truly understand Ancient Egypt without fully understanding the Ancient Egyptian religion, its advanced metaphysics of every god being a manifestation of Amun-Ra, and its influence on Greek philosophy (especially Hermeticism).
>>18768443Yeah I agree, but the West abandoned Christianity as their main identity and went for Secularism starting around the 1700s. Hence why I mention in the last sentence about Christian LARPers on the internet. In their view, they think returning to Christianity would solve the Wests main issues.
>>18768290They kind of did move on, but then the US decided to overthrow the secular leaders in the region in favor of radical extremist fundamentalists.
>>18768480Commies aren’t people and stealing wealth is evil
>>18768290>brown>short>no chin so have to grow beard>women are disgusted by you>islam lets you beat and abuse them for free both socially and morallyVery simple, imagine being a Pakistani woman and having to be a slave to a Paki man for the rest of your life, hell on Earth
>>18768480thisislam was in massive decline due to europeans utterly and devastatingly BTFOing them throughout the 1700-1900sThey unironically were at the point of "god has forsaken us" and "why even bother"the fall of the ottoman empire was the final nail in the coffin, and in the 1920s you could arguably say almost 100% of islamic regions was under euro controlwhat happened next was the euros backed off due to ww2 and other fuckery, and islamic nations became something like post soviet semi sane secular countries. happy end?AMERICA FUCK YEAH LETS FUND ISLAMISTS FOR HALF A CENTURY
>>18768403>sahih hadithYou Muslims should learn a thing or two from the Sunnah of the Prophet (PBUH) as narrated by the Hadith in Sahih Muslim 1453a:>Messenger of Allah, I see on the face of Abu Hudhaifa (signs of disgust) on entering of Salim (who is an ally) into (our house), whereupon Allah's Apostle (PBUH) said: Suckle him. She said: How can I suckle him as he is a grown-up man? Allah's Messenger (PBUH) smiled and said: I already know that he is a young man 'Amr has made this addition in his narration that he participated in the Battle of Badr and in the narration of Ibn 'Umar (the words are): Allah's Messenger (PBUH) laughed.This Hadith is narrated by Aisha and is verified Sahih, i.e, the highest level of authenticity in Islam. Muslim men should, therefore, submit to their hijabi dommy mommies and drink breastmilk from them in order to satisfy themselves as men.Oh, and here’s a takedown of all arguments supporting the Prophet’s (PBUH) holy Allah-ordained marriage to Aisha (RA).https://www.reddit.com/r/CritiqueIslam/comments/1t80z4h/end_of_debate_the_pedophile_prophet_and/>inb4 reddit link is le badFuck off autist, just because you got out-autismo’d does not mean we care. Seethe.
>>18768526>>18768517>>18768523you talk with the cadence of an Indian gentleman. I empathize with the selection pressures that shapes your worldview, where those who rise to the top in an overpopulated meat grinder are subconsciously conditioned to view things in various infantile ways. That is usually reflected in the way many of you speak about any topic.>Whatever good you possess comes from Allah, and when hardship afflicts you, it is to Him alone you cry out for help. yet when He relieves you of your hardship, you turn away from him (16:53)
>>18768550Allah isn't real
>>18768550The jeet insult doesn't really work when the second largest muslim country (by population) in the world are just jeets that think allah is based instead of vishnu
>>18768309The ongoing presence and growth of Islam globally is because:1. Islam offers a direct, highly structured framework for daily life that many find spiritually fulfilling.>Monotheistic Clarity: The central concept of Tawhid (the absolute oneness of God) provides a straightforward theological foundation that is easily understood and practiced without complex institutional hierarchies.>Ritual Structure: The Five Pillars of Islam—including daily prayers, fasting during Ramadan, and charity (Zakat)—create a rhythmic, disciplined lifestyle that fosters deep personal and communal grounding.2. Community and Global Identity>The concept of the Ummah (the global community of believers) transcends race, ethnicity, and nationality. This shared identity provides a profound sense of belonging and mutual support, making the faith resilient to political changes and geographical displacements.
>>18768586Holy fuck the Muslims summoned JibrilGPT to the thread
>>18768578I wasn't actually trying to insult you. just saying that I understand.>>18768556Then don't fall short of worshipping the true God of the white race; the ancient of days, the law-giver, your Adonai, Hashem.>The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." For they are corrupt, and their deeds are abominable (Psalms 14:1: a lament by David)Goodluck and peace be upon you.
>>18768593It's over for you human! Your monkey brains are now second rate garbage
>>18768290>>18768307Islam is the fastest growing religion on the planet and has been for many years. Muslims are out spreading their faith in the real world in very stark contrast to the online only reactionary tradcath larpers whose vitriol accomplishes nothing but driving more people away from christianity and into the arms of competing religions.
>>18768586Monotheism is retarded, why should I believe all civilized and educated peoples of the ancient world were wrong about their gods and that somehow illiterate goat herders from Palestine and Arabia were right?
>>18768586>2. Community and Global Identity>>The concept of the Ummah (the global community of believers) transcends race, ethnicity, and nationality. This shared identity provides a profound sense of belonging and mutual support, making the faith resilient to political changes and geographical displacements.That's not unique to Islam. Christianity, Communism, video game/music fandoms, and transgenderism all offer the same thing
>>18768618Long before the widespread rise of Abrahamic religions, Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle critiqued traditional polytheism, arguing that the universe must ultimately be governed by a single, supreme, unchanging principle or "Unmoved Mover." In the ancient Near East, usually only kings or pharaohs were seen as divine representatives. Monotheism democratized this status to all individuals, establishing a foundational belief in inherent human dignity and individual value that eventually evolved into modern human rights.In Greek mythology and literature (like Homer), humans are often pawns in the conflicts of the gods. True autonomy is limited because cosmic forces (Moira or Fate) ultimately dictate the outcomes of human lives.In a polytheistic system, a person could excuse bad behavior by claiming they were possessed by Aphrodite's lust or Ares's rage, or that they were honoring one god at the expense of another. Monotheism consolidated the cosmic moral order under a single, perfectly just Creator. Genesis establishes that humans are created in the "image and likeness of God" (Imago Dei). Because the monotheistic God possesses absolute sovereignty and free will, humans—as His image-bearers—are uniquely endowed with a reflection of that creative freedom and moral choice.As the West transitioned into the Enlightenment and modern secularism, the structural framework of Judeo-Christian free will was largely preserved:The Sovereign Individual: The modern liberal concept of the autonomous individual—capable of self-determination, entering social contracts, and possessing unalienable rights—is heavily indebted to Christian theology.The Basis for Law and Justice: Western legal systems rely fundamentally on the assumption of free will. The concepts of personal guilt, intent (mens rea), and moral responsibility depend on the premise that an individual could have chosen otherwise—a direct legacy of monotheistic moral philosophy.
>>18768630>and transgenderism all offer the same thingAnd apparently a lot of anons here want to feel pretty; fake painted blush, wearing a tight corset, twirling in their pink tutus, like ballerinas under the stage lights.You owe Hell Anon an apology.
the real question is why kuffar still exist
>>18768646Proverbs 16:9
>>18768662Old Testament was the Bible Jesus grew up to, he openly flaunted it, mocked the leaders defending it, overturned most of it, said he was the God from it, replaced the whole thing with a new religion based on himself with his 12 apostles replacing the 12 tribes of Israel ...and said that he would send his Holy Spirit to guide usAs Christians we don't believe in a God pulling strings (sure some do believe that and we let it slide sometimes) but God is in you working inside you with the Holy Spirit Jesus said he would send us. You are responsible for yourself. He's calling you to be holy but you have 100% free will. It's like the angel on one shoulder devil on the other and you don't even know which is which because the devil can pose as an angel like St Ignatius pointed out. So its tough but that why you study discernment, prayer, spiritual reading, get a Spiritual Director and spiritual friends to walk the path with you and help make sure you don't get your head on backwards as we humans love to do
>>18768674Do Muslims have saints? In Christianity there are a bunch of must-know saints, one is pic related
>>18768674John 6:44
>>18768690Before I even look up it, you are falling to the oldest trick in the Devil's handbook. Trying to use scripture as a debating handbook. If you don't want to be on board with God, just be honest...
>>18768697If you don't like what Scripture says just get another religion?Also 2 Timothy 3:16
>>18768618Back to this guy: the New Testament was written in common Greek. Jesus didn't write a book. Muslims believe their book was dictated straight from angels Christians know that their book was passed down in oral tradition (telephone game) until:each of the Gospels written by various Hellenistic (Greek) urban centers and regions around the Mediterranean >By the standards of the ancient Greco-Roman world, the writers of the four Gospels possessed a degree of literacy and literary skill that placed them well above the vast majority of the populationIn the first-century Roman Empire, only an estimated 4% to 10% of the population could read and write to any functional degree.Luke & Acts - Luke's Gospel and the Book of Acts display a high-register, polished Greek style that suggests formal training in Greek composition and rhetoricJohn - his is the most beautiful and poetic Paul - his works make up most of the new Testament. He's the "First Christian Theologian"He was heavily educated >Greco-Roman and Rhetorical Skills: Paul wrote his epistles in Greek and employed stylistic characteristics, logic, and philosophical concepts (such as Stoic, Epicurean, and Platonic ideas) common to Greek rhetorical schools (schola rhetoris).>Jewish Studies: Paul studied under one of the most prominent Jewish teachers of the law, training as a Pharisee. He was deeply fluent in Hebrew scriptures and tradition (and he rejected them, which pissed off the Christian church back in Jerusalem--remember, Paul is the one that took Christianity to the Roman Empire, Paul was one of those rare Super Humans in the history of mankind)
>>18768702You dont even know what scripture is you dolt. To you it's just posting a few Bible verses that make you sound like a dumb hillbilly.
>>18768676>Do muslims have saintsTechnically i guess..Institutional Sufi Orders believe in asking intercession and veneration of Saints, the same way Roman Catholics do, of what they call Sufi Saints.Tasawwuf (sufism) of course didn't start as such, it's just the spiritual undercurrent of our religion. But I'm always careful when I use that term, because in it's institutional form, the people who identify as "Sufi Muslims" go beyond spirituality. They believe in their own culturally acquired meditative rituals, esoteric metaphysics, intercession, grave veneration, asceticism, etc.Pic rel are called the whirling dervishes. They're a Sufi Order based in Turkey, and believe this is a form of spiritual meditation.
>>18768716>a few Bible versesHave a full chapter then.
>>18768728I'm not talking or reading anything you post. I'm 50 years old, I don't have time for dumbass kids. That's why I don't have kids and that's why I don't teach classes Just quit being dumb. Realize you're going to be dumb as shit until you're 80 then you die thinking about what and idiot you wereI was most definitely just as dumb as you when I was your age and it's painful to remember
>>18768734>50yo>on 4chan
>>18768741You're the one on here on the only Halloween Saturday for the next 11 years. I'm mad I'm not out but it's raining
It's still around for a multitude of reasons, but mostly because it lets you own women. Kind of why mormons are still around too
