Previous: >>98897673Rules of Acquisition edition>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.com>tqWhat's your favorite non-creature token?
>>98901411Do proxy tokens count?Junk tokens if not.
Building a Golgari reanimator Meren deck and I'm conflicted between Dread Return for being useful if it gets self milled and Caulfron of Essence for being repeatable. Thoughts?
>>98901441
>>98901411>TQBlood Token
Look, if WotC didn't want me to play Madness Vampires in Mardu, they wouldn't have made Odric Boros
>>98901411I LOVE GOOOLLD!
>>98901411Is there lore reason why his scepter looks more like a dildo?
>>98901441Dread Return:>one of the best reanimation spells ever printed>combocentric, you need specific setups to use it, but in those setups it wins the game>free at worst, 2BB for two reanimations at bestCauldron of Essence>upgraded blood artist for 1BG>upside for the same cost to reanimate a guySo, in short, depends on what you're doing. If you're trying to win, dread return is better.
No cool art for mountains
>>98901441>>98901449Cauldron
The worst realization is when you realize people on the Internet aren't LARPing, they really are just that terrible at MtG despite playing it weekly (or more) for over a year.
>>98901532man, the whole Jace plot is fucking retarded.All that shit so he can become a tranny.
>>98901532What the fuck is wrong with flavor texts these days. They shat the bed sometime around covid and they have been so goddamn weird ever since.
>>98901557They realized that their playerbase is retarded and needs to be beat over the head with the story or else they won't get it.
I spite-cast Razia's Purification yesterday, it felt great. I was already falling behind with missed land drops, had my only non-land permanent of a mana rock be destroyed, and the only other spell that I could cast was countered. Everyone's hands were revealed and it was in there from the start so I figure they should have seen it coming as they built up massive boards.
>>98901595based
>>98901595What deck are you running it in?
>>98901600Thanks>>98901607Velomachus Lorehold, with the goal being plenty of board wipes, and some protection spells. Razia's Purification is one of the win conditions, if I can pull it off and save something to protect Velomachus, then everyone else is left in a state where it's very difficult to oppose me.
>>98901623Holy Based
>>98901570What story? With no blocks and 50%+ UB how can there still be a story?
>>98901629 at least you made it to 20 posts before dialting>>98829219
Boros Elder Dragon?Now we're talking Sisslesnyaxister, your response?
Is scryfall not displaying images for anyone else or is this just a me problem?
>>98901657If it bothers you that people don't like ninja turtles in the game then go head over to the ninja turtles tcg general and you won't encounter it.>just let people enjoy things!You first, Magic is our thing, fuck off and let us enjoy it.
>>98901683There is no tcg turtles general. There is however an I Hate UB tcg general. Go there and stop offtopic posting in the Commander thread.
>>98901676Works for me. Scryfall is kind of a mess lately. Just refresh.
>>98901716>the game I want doesnt exist so I'm going to come into your game and tell you to find somewhere else!Get fucked faggot, the complaints will never stop, so you'll have to learn to accept them or fuck back off to the nonexistent thing you came from.
>>98901657Why do some anons here (You) get so incredibly assmad if anyone doesn't like UB?
>>98901742The game I like does exist. I'd called commander. You are the one spamming off topic piss fests in ever commander general despite having a general dedicated to what you want to talk about because you don't like certain cards in commander.Again >>98829219 stop offtopic blasting every Commander thread when you already have another thread that is on topic for you.
>>98901764It's never going to happen, you're the intruder parasite, you can find a new host if you don't like the host despising your presence.
>>98901761I dunno anon, why would people in the arena thread get mad if people went into each one and constantly talked about paper Commander?
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98901773I dunno anon, why would people in the game of Magic the Gathering get mad if people came in and constantly talked about IP's that aren't Magic the Gathering?
>>98901742>>98901761Public displays of your disgusting leaky cunts (dilate) getting all over the place has nothing to do with game pieces in a card game.>>98901771And YWNBAW
>>98901780Hey what's that copyright in the bottom right corner of the card say? Who owns Magic the Gathering?
>>98901543I keep facing opponents in mtg arena with the card back of Jace transitioning into Tam for some reason.
>>98901788>>98901790The only thing wrong with this image is that it is demographically/culturally outdated, replace the girly-girls and dudebros with hamplanets and trannies.We also aren't going to abandon our game, we will outlast your fad interest.
>>98901804isnt that card back free?
>>98901812Cool! Go do it in the appropriate thread instead of spamming off topic posts in the wrong one. >>98829219
>>98901812All I care about is game pieces anon, the artwork or theme means far less.What's truly annoying is you estrogen filled whiney troglodytes blathering uselessly on and on how their porridge is too hot, too cold, meanwhile the UW artwork/stories has been as horrid if not worse. At least be consistent or admit you love the tranny BS hasblow has been force-feeding.
>>98901879Go is more your speed.
>>98901812Jews of the coast killed the face of the game since the first Lorwyn. Now we have Tam the tranny >98901804Also white male characters are either dead of irrelevant>Gideon was white but after being changed from white to greek. writers of the story killed him anyways>Dack Fayden died because he was a white male>Ral Zarek was revealed as a faggot and later transformed into a furry>Lukka was compleated and then killed by Vivian, a black female planeswalker>Jace, the poster child of neo magic, was rekt as well, leaving us a tranny nobody gives a fuck.>Garruk is not a shell of what he was. While he's not dead, he lost relevance in the story.>Will Kenrith lost his spark because of the desparkening because he's a white male>Toyo and Calix are white males but irrelevant in the story so far
>>98901543>tranny tranny trannyAnyone who cant tell it's in his perfect worlds his and Vraskas's lovechild is braindead illiterate
>>98901891And you should go eat your tism-tendies you useless whiny autistic cunt.
>>98901938>not biological childdoesnt count>>98901929want Lukka a villain?
>>98901929>>Ral Zarek was revealed as a faggot and later transformed into a furryhe cute. i wish they gave ral, storm mentor an otter variant.
>>98901441>>98901449You only got one reanimation spell? Use both, they are amazing cards, you can drop some other cards for sure
I FUCKING HATE MEREN OF CLAN NET TOTH SO MUCH
Fuck me man do you guys have to do this song and dance every thread? I get it, some of you think UB ruined the game and some think it did nothing at all but holy shit do you need to argue about it every damn thread? Talk about what you like about the game at least because at this point I think most anons doing the arguing don't even play the game
I love my corolla and I love the legend of Aang. That means I would have liked if Aang drove one in the cartoon. I am very smart
>>98901938It's a retarded story, but it's in the first fucking chapter anon.>He explains, "You're not my daughter. I'm not your god. We're not dating. Figure we should get all of those out of the way first."
How much mana should a WUBRG deck have? I got a pre-con with 40 total but only 18 of that was basic lands and the rest was silly nonsense. I'm gonna make it 25 basic lands and 15 multi-colored stuff, but should I increase that?
>>98902076What's your avg cmc?>3.xx37>4.xx39
>>98901879>i dont have a dog in this fightLiar, you wouldnt be in the fight if so
>>98902080I'm sorry anon but I'm new minus some google'd terminology, I don't understand what that means.
>>98902115you should not be playing a 5 color deck and you should most certainly not be playing commander
>>98902115Based on the average cost of cards of your deck, you run a certain number of lands. A deck building tool will provide this number.
>>98901986But why? It isnt even good anymore.
>>98902120Oh, thank you.>>98902118Also thank you, but less politely.
>>98902115Avg cmc = average converted mana cost. Basically what your mana curve is, which means the average number of 1-10 mana cost cards you have in your deck. A well built deck will have an avg cmc of 2xx-3.xx meaning it has lots of 1-3 cost mana cards which means you can play cards every turn instead of the infamous "land pass" play style of decks with a lot of higher mana cost cards where you give up the initiative waiting to cast spells.Use a deck builder like archidekt which automatically calculates the cost for you and start building with the curve in mind. Your games will go much better. I love you.
>>98902127No problem anon, and he is roght. If you're new to magic commander is an esoteric clusterfuck, and building a 5c deck is an elaborate exercise in suffering composed of every single card in the history of magic boiled down to a few optimized paths. If you dont know the fundamentals you're jumping into quantum mechanics upside down in a non-newtonian fluid while a bunch of DMT elves play Magic Mamaliga and dance about you offering zero help but many opinions.That being said, if you start with the fundamentals, I personally recommend a deck in a monocolour to learn the basics, but you do you. Just had to warn you.
>>98902076use the wanabe welfare fetches and you should be okay.slow and steady with wubrg means your gonna wana run latern and grove faggot.
>>98902141TBF he could just play slivers
>>98902145Yeah, fair enough. Slivers is like one of three "fun" tribal decks.
>>98902145Even still, if you want your entry to the game to be play land play creature, you would be better suited to playing mono green so it's easier. Actually, slivers would be an atrocious entry. For one the 5c thing, but for two a new player is not going to properly keep track of everything when they've got 4 unique slivers in play let alone enough to win the game and such. They're not exactly complicated, timmies play them all the time, but you'll see so many keywords and abilities and the like that would be awfully overwhelming.
Think that's it for request stuff.
>>98902151Seems like a good cross section and a rudimentary understanding of the different types of effects (activated vs state based vs triggered). And every slivers deck is either play rocks to fix the manabase, or tutor gemhide asap.
>>98902137>>98902141>>98902142Excellent, wonderful, thank you much. I see this is broaching a threshold that I'm ill prepared for and I'm grateful for my senpais' advice.
>>98902170You got this brother. We all start somewhere. I wish you luck.
What is your opinion of building around an objectively bad Commander because the artwork contains a cute woman?
>>98902184Choosing any commander you like and making it a cute woman.
>>98902184A retard and his money will soon part.
>>98902165None of these things are killing yourself though
>>98902184Waifu decks are based
>>98902184this is perfect example of why the creature types in this set suck, why isn't this just a cat? TRUTH.NUKE.
>>98902176They will die in your name, Anon.
>>98902125>good anymoreWho's better for reanimator aristocrats?
UNBAN MY ZESTY ELF YOU WOTC FUCKS!
>>98902165Gorgeous anon, the order has been placed, awaiting confirmation that there are no issues and it's being made.50 tokens for this, 7 tokens for something else with official images.
>>98902184The game is meant to be fun. There's an argument that a bad commander can let you small bean. If the rest of your deck is very strong it doesn't matter if your commander is subpar.I have been thinking about making this chick into a deck. Boros decks are my favorite two color decks.
>>98902301Post 'em when you get em.
>>98902308As soon as I have them, then again when they're sleeved up!
>>98902303I look like and do this.
>>98902301>Buying these AI slop tokensWhat the->CanadianOh okay that explains it.
>>98902146>>98902151>>98902166Fair enough, the real fun of The (yes THE, there is only one) slivers deck is building the list and then actually collecting the pieces.Everyone wants to play it and everyone wants to play against it, right up until you do either of those things and then it is just "Oh".You think you can put your own spin on it, but it really doesn't matter what slivers you pick, you throw a bunch of them together with one or all of the legends, doesn't matter which is the Commander, and you add in tutors, ramp and removal from the 5 colors, the best or the cheapest, not really important.It teaches you one thing: That you have to keep track of a lot of shit, if you stick with it you learn how to do that.What slivers need is some legends that are not 5 color, single color might be over correction, two color legendary slivers could actually allow people to truly build their own lists, 3 colors might still be too much.
>>98902301>paying 50 cents a card, plus shipping, tax, and apparently shipping tax for ANY proxiesThis isn't even a matter of taste at this point, it's logistically foolish.
>>98902353The "official" cards for this deck come to somewhere between $5400 and $24000, depending on specific prints chosen.No matter which prints you choose the deck would then contain a mix of at least 3 different card frames and have a huge clash of art styles and goblin phenotypes.What I have just pruchased is a single coherent aesthetic for both art and card frames, it is an internally consistent bespoke product, and it is costing me approximately 5% of the "real" value, even when you factor in the further cost of dragon shield clear classics and kmc perfect fits for the deck and the tokens.Who's foolish?
>>98902353>its okay when its changs though
>>98902367but it's slop, so still you
>>98902379"slop" was when the generative models couldn't count fingers and toes, or when the prompter doesn't care to refine until the details are right.There is no difference between these and painstakingly painted professionally commissioned work, I am grateful to gobanon for doing what he's done, for taking his time to finish the list off with requests and to do so only for the joy of doing it and only requesting to see the end result when it arrives.
gobpedo is a bad poster and I don't care for his posts.
>>98902367You've bought a bunch of glossy anime girls that I'm going to have to ask you to read aloud to the class like it's an alphabet book; which normally if you printed it off of an inkjet I'd say "based as fuck" but one out of the three demonstrated is a beast token with no beast on it. Your coherent art style's theme is "confusing".>>98902371Did I fucking stutter you retard? Chinese proxies are even worse because you're paying even more for shipping even more garbage counterfeits.
>>98901778Duel Commander is objectively superior to 1v1v1v1
>>98902390>theres no differenceYes there is. Youre a retarded philistine
>>98902400Okay.
>>98902402You won't have to ask anything because you don't play with me, or anyone else for that matter.>>98902412You're just envious that gobanon didn't do a pinup project for a deck you want to build.I bet both of you are like republican politicians or personalities who constantly make a stink about pedophilia and then end up arrested for being caught with CP or meeting up with a kid in a sting, you've saved everything gobanons done and are just awaiting the day his work fits one of your decks.
>>98902428>moral faggingIts not the tits retard. Its the slop. Youre literally too dense to realize why we hate this shit
>>98902303That Midriff, waow
>>98902428Fuck you gave up the game too quick and now there's no point in arguing. This is what I can't stand about you youngblood shitposters, no fucking stamina.Guess we're just going to have to go back to talking about the game.
>>98902442>youngbloodIf you had been paying attention (don't worry I'm not surprised that you haven't) you may have noted that I stated I returned after having put away my cards 15 years ago and only stayed for the goblin pinups and to see the deck for them built.I am very likely old enough to be your father.
>>98901441>Building a Golgari reanimator Meren deckfeeling adventurous today, are we?
>>98902451Put it in your autobiography old man/lil bro; we talk about cardgames here.
>>98902086KEK sure, I'll bite.UW has had soft ass weak DEI tier slop art & stories, for YEARS. Shit just as bad if not worse than the UB crap.The product is horrible/bad anon.Has BEEN bad.Fuck UW/UB, all that's left is sparsely decent game mechanics which is why proxying has been the answer.But you do you boo. Go back to nonstop shitting diarrhea in backdraft winds of 'UB BAD abloobloobloo!' thinking there is even a 'standard of quality' left to this husk.
>>98902400Think his sycophant is worse than he is, assuming the very unlikely case it's not just himself talking about himself.
>>98902303made for big blackblade cock
>>98902303>posting the wrong version with the gross m15 border
If were becoming a slop general, then fuck it, im making a Birds of paradise for Arahbo
>>98902165>Jacked beast tokenYesssssss, fuck da haters. Love you Gobbanon.
>>98902478The more people making stuff to increase their enjoyment in this hobby, in any form that takes, the better. Did you gen that yourself or just find it?
>>98902478Were not.Keep that shit in /slop/
>>98902486Gen'd it myself, 4th or 5th iteration. Still needs some work
>>98902499Nice. Intricate gold and metal is a pain to try and do. Less might be more, at least with the cage.
>>98902486you really should kill yourself for that mentality alone. gatekeeping is good, the community does not need more trash subhumans like you
I never see anyone play this, but it seems like the best elf commander.
>>98902533>tfw we didn't gatekeep hard enough
Trek is completely mogging this whole year. Imagine the headline mechanic for your climax set being "Empower Jace" like he's a fucking black trans woman lmao.
>>989025691, its nearly 80 dollars2, its actually not as incredible as it looks since he was errata'd to not give flat buffs, just your other elves3, shroud fucks you over a lot more than it helps, which is why wotc phased it out for hexproof and ward.
>>98902572Its almost like you don't have the power to stop anyone from doing anything.
>>98902585So you're saying I should get worse with harassing people who shouldnt be here thanks for the advice anon
>>98902118>newfags shouldn't play the go-to casual format
>>98902599New people should play Standard. Commander has too many weird effect interactions and having to deal with 3 other players while knowing nothing about the game is not a good experience. When the fat guy playing his "erm probably a 2 but it has some strong cards" goes infinite on turn 4 is a bad first time experience.
>>98902165Wtf I want to have human-gobbo hybrid baby making sex with Auntie Ool now?!
>>98902578Errata'd or reprinted? Cards are played as written.
>>98902611>cards are played as written.Nope.
>>98902611As printed Eladamri is not an elf.
>>98902615Really? because I see pointy ears in that art.Wizards once upon a time assumed players were intelligent and didn't need the obvious spelled out, yes that was a mistake.
>>98902611
>>98902619So, cards are not played as written?
>>98902619Summon Legend.If he was as elf it would say Summon Elf.
>>98902621Printed then, he's clearly an elf.
>>98902488Become a janny thenThe current ones clearly don't care
>>98902603I disagree in remedy even if I agree in diagnosis. New players interested in commander should play precons; standard isn't going to build their card knowledge or get them to experience a number of the card interactions they should come to expect and other broader constructed formats are too 'solved' to let them see these cards either. Precons give them a simple-enough slice to eat on their own while they start learning what everyone else is cooking.>>98902619WOTC never believed that; they didn't believe anything until they realized what a nightmare their old cards were going to be to maintain with the new ones; hence the oracle text and errata to begin with.Eladamri today reads: Eladamri, Lord of Leaves {G}{G}Legendary Creature — Elf WarriorOther Elf creatures have forestwalk. (They can’t be blocked as long as defending player controls a Forest.)Other Elves have shroud. (They can’t be the targets of spells or abilities.)“We have been patient. We have planned our attack. We are ready … now.”—Eladamri, Lord of Leaves
>>98902632If they want to care about the errata they'll put their money where their mouth is and print the correction.
>>98902646They don't need to do that when they can just put in the comprehensive rules that Oracle text > Card text.
Remember when this was a funny joke? This card is a lot more readable in paper than half the secret lairs they do, and they spit out a dozen of them a month.
>>98902646i would also like a reprint.fuck make a whole 'oracle' set with new anime art
>>98902670Mogging gobpedo this hard should be a warcrime
>>98902619>Really? Because the text clearly says "you're dead", so that means he reduces your life to 0 and I win the game.>Wizards once upon a time assumed players were intelligent and didn't need the obvious spelled out, yes that was a mistake.
>>98902659I love these, because they eliminate all arguments about proxies being difficult to read because the image enters the text boxlike, bitch be happy it has a fucking text box.tournaments accept any degree of alter so long as the cards name and mana cost are still present on it, literally nothing else matters.Personally I choose to never play one of these, even if it's something literally everyone has memorized like lightning bolt.
>>98902685>just ordered pic relatedWhile I agree that readability is a major issue now I think it's on you as a player to know all of your rules text.Now I know we play with literal mouth breathers but im not above forgetting my own card text to win a game i shouldnt against said mouth breathers
>looking through legacy lists>stumble upon this bullshitwho the hell thought this was ok?
>>98902670
>>98902711>11hawt gobbo... but has 'elf proportions' .7/10. would still use.
>>98902724What in the absolute fuuuuuuuuuck
>>98902704Bay Golas
>>98902724Are you the unironic chubby chaser who frequents where?
>>98902724>this creatureYeah that's definitely a fucking creature alright.
>>98902711Looking at proxies is a trip
>>98902742No thats meI like big beautiful women not just fatties Get it right
>>98902777Based trips of truth
>>98902076run it green-forward and have several duals with forest - other land type. it doesnt have to be 400 dollar ones like savannah or 7 dollar ones like temple garden but can be like 2 dollar Canopy Vista. theres several out there. make sure there is like 2-3 of each forest pair. or just proxy all the green pairs. no brainer stuff obviously commander tower and exotic orchard, reflecting pool is a good idea as well. I always run a minimum of 2 basic lands of each color in the deck. in my 5 color i think its 4 forests 3 plains and then 2 each of the others. absolutely nothing wrong with running more basics though but you will still probably want a primary color to run until your WUBRG engine is online. I run 37 lands in almost every deck except 38 in one or two, one of those might be the 5c deck. and 36 in a high power deck with mox and mana vault and all that shit. stuff like bloom tender and prismatic geoscope are nice. cascading cataracts + mana reflection is a nice thing to do as well.
>pulled out my unmodified precons with older dragonshield sleeves>BUTTERY SMOOTHyo wtf has arcane tinman been doing? I forgot how good these sleeves used to beSomething is not quite right with the new shit and I only realized it after shuffling up older sleeves
>>98902800
>>98902076Don't do 25 basic lands. You should do 1 of each at the most. Use the 5 color lands like Mana Confluence, City of Brass, Command Tower and as many untapped duals as you can afford, and double that for fetches. Ideally you want all 10 of the fetch lands and shocklands as a start if you're going to be competitive.
>>98902145I am, actually. Just slapped my first draft together minus about six fellas still in the mail. Gonna double check with the deck builder then.
>>98902773I'm kinda bored so I'm genning plump goblins only to realize I don't know what that line is.
>sister with social anxiety and minor autism wants to learn commandershe was looking at pic related for a commander mostly cus of the bloomburrow precon, but it's not like you can get that at MSRP anymoreis it's general gameplan good for a beginner?
>>98902810Wow that's super interesting!Have you considered suicide recently? If not I think it's worth a look!
>>98902821Nah. I'm good. Stopping this though. Good to try new things, even if they don't work out.
>>98902818Is she into girly shit? Because a Selesnya lifegain deck is easy to understand yet powerful and has lots of chick friendly cards to stuff in it.
>>98902826plap the gobbo slam piggy YES
>>98902826I hate fatties but this works surprisingly well.Food token? The outfit matches your Treasure token.
Which one do you prefer? Which aspects would you keep of each card?
>>98902836I mean. If he wants it I'll finish it. I just wanted to see if I could toe that line.
White needs its power cards back.
>>98902829NTA but squirrels are girly and the worst thing you can do to a shy girl trying to get into something is push her in the direction you want that interest to go, the girl likes squirrels help her build squirrels.>>98902818I don't know the deck but squirrel tribal used to be pretty straightforward and this matches what it was, just make lots of squirrels. If the MSRP is bullshit gift her a proxy printing, or build her a custom proxy printing deck with it as Commander, most pods these days will bend over backwards to support a shy girl so unofficial cards are very very unlikely to be an issue
>>98902848I wanna play limited resources.
>>98901557>sometime around covidAnon, Innistrad was 15 years ago
>>98902829yea she has a bunch of keychain plushies and stuff, she probably gravitated towards to the squirrel just cause it looks cute. she's never played a CCG/TCG before though just collects some pokemon cards casually
>>98902842NTA and as I said, I hate fatties, but this works.I would call this a soft-thicc childbearing figure, not a fatty per se.
>>98902852I have eight copies of this card cause I bought a playset on ebay years ago and the seller sent me double.
>>98902852Then play it. Don't let the banlist stop you. I find that half the random pods let me play banned cards as long as I'm upfront.
>>98902870Not all of us are lucky enough to play with pods that are all white cis males.
>>98902803Hmm that was not as fun as I reminderI think i need to start making some changesThere's really no reason ajani caller of the pride needs to be in the token deck
>>98902874DamnThat must suck
u.b. octopath when ?
>>98902903Why did you make the background empty
>>98902821I'd be pissed too if that retard tried to encroach on my fetish too
>>98902911>11wtf you think pixels are free ?
>>98902859If she wants squirrels then Squirrel Girl is even simpler than Lathiel.
>>98902903Ophilia my beloved.
>>98902874Bruh. You totally called us out.
>>98902777>no magnification effect on magnifierChumbo's glasses probably non prescription as well
>ordered cards>still need to cut 3 cardswhy do I do this to myself
>>98902975>Order a bunch of cards>Go to the LGS>Oh, I need this, and this, and this and this>What the fuck did I buy again? Oh shit. I'm like at 140 nowI know the feel.
Apparently the janny draws the line at fat chicks.
>>98902874>cisI'm not cis, I'm just Male.You know, the default? This attempt to marginalize Normality is weak.
>>98903004>posting onlyfans cunts is on topic to edh! It just is okay?!?!
>>98903004I just noted the gened gobbo got hit too, that's.... different. none of the other gobanon proxies ITT got hit.I guess EDHG is officially "No fat chicks allowed"Dare I say, based?
>>98903004the picture wasnt mtg relatedit was a good call.the Janny did good.
>>98903004>LET ME POST MY AISLOPnah
Is regenerate a dead mechanic?
>>98902461Nothing wrong with building a tried and true archetype with an iconic cute girl at the helm.
>>98903004janny also dislikes shota jace buying cards with mommy vraska and lili. image shows less boobs than this proxy garbage but apparently either of them is his personal waifu so big no-no.
>>98903020No, its actually sleeper. Since "it can't be regenerated" is gone as well.
>>98903020Yes. It's needlessly complex and doesn't stop a lot of shit anyways. Still gets dragged out when thematically appropriate though.
>>98903019>My aislopNigga, take your meds. I'm just fucking pointing out of all that shit that gets posted, that's what gets removed.
>>98903029Yeah, but the best removal is exile and there's a ton of exile based removal to choose from now, which really limits the effectiveness of indestructible and regeneration. Phasing out your creatures or permanents is the new hotness to counteract exile based removal.
>>98903037post on-topic or kys
>>98903040Nigga, you're off-topic right now too.Go deep throat a shotgun or be outed as a false bitch with no conviction in your beliefs.
>>98903020It just has odd rules baggage. Did you know that if regenerate triggers it specifically removes said regenerated creature from combat? The line of rules text being a ringer to the 'dont die' part is odd but it was just the way they built it convoluted in alpha.Also Lotleth Troll is one if the greatest creatures ever printed and looks cool so why not play it if you can
>>98903052I like how lotleth troll works with both scavenge and dredge. True golgari card.
>>98902576I mean didn't he transition into his half gorgon daughterfu
>>98902184I already did it for Cynette so whatever.
https://archidekt.com/decks/27957051/black_knowledge_is_toxicLooking pretty shit and cringe, digging it.>Play test it once>Opening hand, 3 basics, mystical tutor, sol ring, thought vessel. and offer, and drew scepter>Just casually going infinite turn 3.I'll be chasing that for a long as I have this deck once I have it in paper. Probably should just take scepter out.
>>98903081cynchads rise up
>>98903178I am a vocaloid fan. Guess what I'll never buy? Even piss on and burn if given to me for free?
>>98903187good mental health?
>>98903189I don't have the care to look for the meme about therapists diagnosing the few people with perfectly reasonable and logical cynical responses to our increasingly fucked up world as nutjobs who need to be prescribed addictive psychoactive substances.
>>98901411How many taplands is too many in a Bracket 2 or Bracket 3 two color deck? Are you better off just running more basics? Assuming a land count of 37-40
I like UB
>>98903235I don't
>>98903238>Pov: you're playing blue
Can anyone tell me who to make a Brak themed Commander deck around?https://youtu.be/gQdcZP2zNFo
>>98903252Some retarded goblin
>>98903235>Marvel gets 5 full sets, a mini set and a metric fuckton of Secret Lairs.>Godzilla only ever got a handful of card alters and a Secret Lair.I don't know how to feel about UB, to be honest.
>>98903256I'm pretty sure Brak is more Sultaihttps://youtu.be/HTrWX1Lq2G8
>>98903276this has been debunked
>>98903277>Sultai>Is just a retardDid I stutter
>>98903283Bodied that freak.
>>98903281What has?
>>98903283What's your job? The retard police or something?https://youtu.be/LkIeIAFJZVs
>>98902603More people play commander. WotC prints viable precons for commander. Bracket 2 is based on a average precon power level. WotC rarely prints Standard precons, and if they do they're usually starter decks for learning the game like with Final Fantasy, Avatar, and LotR. They printed some Standard decks recently for Lorwyn release (and I think for Strixhaven?) but a) you'll lose if you play them at your LGS and b) your LGS will not have Standard players on average anyway.Also, you're acting as though newfags wouldn't walk in to a Standard duel with opponents who have $1000 meta decks. Should anon drop $200 for a "cheap" Monogreen Landfall so he can play Standard with the big boys? Or should he buy the Tramplesaurus commander precon for $30 to learn monogreen?
I love precons. I don't need anything more than a precon to have fun with my friends, and sometimes even win. The new Jace precon from Reality Fracture is pretty strong, I smoked my friends earlier today with it! As much as we all love to hate on this game, sometimes this game isn't so bad.
>>98903329cuteposting
>>98903305Imagine wanting to learn MTG.
>>98903276At least the King of Monster card was original, the magic one came out years afterwards. We can cope together that more Godzilla cards will happen in the Titanbreach set.The Godzilla TCG is pretty fun. No one plays it however.
Dack is making cedhtroons realized how the casuals see their format as it is.
>>98903390No one cares about cedh.
>>98903390
>>98902852based
So why do we keep introducing new creature type but banishing the likes of Naga or Viashino to shadow realm?
>>98903440don't play dumb
>>98903390to be fair dack is very hard to execute
>>98903466Not the Boonweaver version?
Any idea what can i use as "phyrexian tower" to proxy?
>>98902903The funny thing is this is would *still* be one of the strongest draw engines in the format even if you put it in blue instead of a color with notoriously weak draw. Legit like #4 behind Rhystic/TOR/Fish.
>>98902852Limited resources was a sheldon signpost ban that wotc intends to keepLand destruction that lets the pod keep 6 lands is the de facto standard now because going down to 5 invites arguments of unbanning limited resources to the table which wotc doesnt want to do
>signpost banthis retarded concept needs to be banned
>>98903569Limited resources t1 is basically the whole pod being subjected to keldon firebombers every turn cycle while it being a late game play is an undercosted 'keep 5 lands' land destruction that doesnt go away so in that sense i can understand why wotc wants to keep this particular signpost
Bros what was that commander that said something like>create a 0/1 dinosaur token and when it dies summon a creature from your deck
>come back to edh after a 9 year break>none of my decks are legalwhat the fuck happend to mana vault and why is every good black spell a "game changer"?
>>98903625you should learn to scryfall better
>>98903632Thanks broI want to play her but I'm too scared to run 3 colours
>>98903631because it's all fun and games until someone knows how to use mana vault and black tutors a lot better than you
I play Karametra and the hard fucking her trigger is on the stack, it resolves and I make her pregnant
>>98903639speaking of gods why does my nordic goddess look chinese
Yeah I'm a Timmy but I also want to play in my own way and not be a retardBut I love big creatures, I love big numbers, I love wurms, I love hellions, I love hydrasProgenitus is my favourite creature
>>98903649then why aren't you playing the best bang-for-buck hydra commander in the game?
>>98903654Unfortunately I'm a hipster Timmy and don't want to play commanders everyone else willI'm trying to curb this behaviour though
Tearing into these tonight with the boys. Absolute movie in the making.
I WILL keep playing keldon firebombers in B3
>>98902711
>>98903683not only are you playing mld you're also doing it wrorng
So how do you deal with commanders if at any time you could remove them, they just "lmao no back to le command zone :^)"Cards like O-ring etc are useless
>>98903694a) oring is a great combo card b) spending 3 mana to make your opponent waste a turn and 7 mana is still value
You know how each colour combo has a mechanic, like a "thing"? Orzhob is lifelink and life spending, Izzet is spellslinging, so what is Simics "thing"?
Why is every EDH channel so fucking stupid?>landfall is bad because it rewards you for basic gameplayThat's what makes it goodhttps://youtu.be/SexED2E9v1Q
>>98903719simic is go big
>>98903720>really bad at mtgname checks out
>>98903719>so what is Simics "thing"?do thing, draw card, ramp.
>>98903719
Decks with this vibe?
>>98903720Landfall is ass because landfall players take 20 minutes a turn shuffling their lands between the deck, the grave and the table only to spend 10 minutes counting their mana for a combo that takes 5 minutes to get through.
>>98902184My opinion is you, like all other furries, need to kill yourself.>>98902400>>98902533He's objectively better than the furries- for one, he's never spent weeks hijacking and defacing OPs to put gay dragon porn there.>>98902576Also better than this extremely obvious UBrownoid shill who never changes up his language during his samefagging attempts.>>98902751Coom goblins really are just green elves, it seems. 100% elven coded image except for the more traditional looking goblins in the background.
Low-effort bait. Not worth a (You).
>>98903688I can't gift that with beamtown bullies
Land Tax WEnchantmentAt the beginning of your upkeep, draw 4 lands.
>>98902704>MadaraNaruto UB when?
>>98903852any time you want
>>98903848>Green player will see someone with Land Tax + Archaeomancer's Map and still not realize why they're getting raped
What's the problem with this?
Is "she cute" enough of a reason to run a commander?
>>98903929she cute
I'm putting together a team...
Does stuff like this and flying count as an ability?
>>98902818She is the perfect demographic for commanderDon't get the precon, help her build Hazel. Does she already know mtg? If not, don't have her start learning in a full 4 player game. Play against her until she gets a solid grasp on the rules
SEX
What else to put in a Zozu deck?
>>98902926Are her effects a reference to One Battle After Another?
>>98903940Karador?
>read Who’s The Beatdown? and Who’s The Beatdown? 2At last I truly see.
For some reason I draw the line here at ability tokens
>>98903992>ability counters are okay>this still didnt get a reprinttotal joke
Too few players understand how to maximize the value of Gush in deck design and construction, let alone use Gush well in game play. This is a by-product of a shallow and superficial understanding of Gush. Plainly, Gush is a source of card advantage. It draws two cards, a 2-for-1 spell. For many players, this is the extent of their understanding of the benefits Gush provides. Gush, however, is much more than a draw spell. This chapter will cast light upon the underappreciated and subtle benefits of Gush. It will describe four distinct forms of advantage made available by Gush, and will illustrate, in general terms, how to achieve them. In doing so, this chapter explains how Gush influences deck construction, mana base design and development, and spell selection. The following chapter builds on these ideas with clear rules for play and usage.
Timmy hereWe all eventually retire from all other decks and become entombed in our mono blue storm list
What's the power level of a card like this? Was trying to make a build-around for Timmies that doesn't hit that "every creature type" shit
Computer, make me a bracket 4 or 5 that is mainly instants because I'm too impatient to wait for sorcery timing. Is this genuinely possible?
>>98904018No, AI is dogshit at making lists
>watch an "unwritten rules of commander" video>"if you're about to lose don't board wipe or remove, just go out gracefully"What the fuck, if I know I'm about to lose you better believe I'm launching everything I have before I literally don't exist at the table
>>98904025Never watch edh content on youtube unless it's from like 2012
>>98903947>we wuz elfs n sheeit mufuckait's so tiresome.es that's an ability, noob. she is for vanilla ccreatures that only have power/toughness
>>98904025The funny thing about kingmaking is that inaction is also kingmaking
>>98904025it's probably more about unavoidably dying or those assholes who boardwipe, then scoop
>>98904041woah...As Kierkegaard said, "kingmake you will regret it, don't kingmake you will regret it"
Any recs on commanders and deck archetypes where I don't have to read and engine and combo, but also not just turn sideways?
>>98904025>watch an mtg videofirst mistake. everything of worth is written.
>I'm at 2 life because someone hit me with the Sphinx that sets it to 10>Player A casts Rise of the Dark Realms, will probably win if it resolves as he has Ayara of Locthwain and a bunch of other shit in GY>I Tibalt's Trickery it>He crashes out because he was going to die after his turn because no blockers otherwise>Passes and scoopsNow I defended myself for this decision because obviously I have to save myself from being killed by Ayara's ETB, right?
Is an Omo Mazes End deck as fun as I think it'd be, or would be it insanely linear?
>>98904088That depends, are you a straight white male? is the other player a racial or sexual minority?
I don't reply to zoomtards that use phrases like "crashes out"
>>98904092it'll be extremely weak that I can tell you.
>>98904046Unironically based
>>98904062A+B combos with tutorsIts peak both the peak illiterate player archetype as well as the most competitive one!
>>98901929they didnt make Jace a tranny what the fuck are you talking about you faggot. he's pissed he can't impregnate Vrsaka since she's not a human. he cant stop creampi'ng that Gorgussy. reality frac is him thinking he can impregnante interspecies >>98902353stupid the drawing doesnt have the black guys huge crazy mouth
>>98904092Omo is really fun, if the only thing it does is ramp and search for mazes end it will be linear but idk why you would do that there's a lot of other fun things to do with that general
>>98904094we are both straight yellow males and are not minorities of any kind in our country of residence>>98904095well he's my friend so i wouldn't use a term like tard rage. gotta soften the blow, yknow. also we're both 30+.
Who up stripping their mines?
>>98904303>cant even do Ebonics rightNo rupees for you saar!
Magic should not do IP properties, it's impossible to make things "match" from one thing to another, and it all winds up looking like some kind of lame fan-made "w-w-what if... THIS! hurhurhur!" "Oh, man! that's so cooool!" nonsensealmost all of these Star Trek cards feel like terrible bratty kids (yet somehow still fans of Star Trek lol) made them.
>>98904303>let's put the level up mechanic on a card but let's not actually do itFucking retards at wotc these days
>>98904333Enjoying the view, tourist?
>>98904336>>98904347
>>98904336There are multiple mechanical differences between Level Up and Nog's type of mechanic. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>98904333O'Brien's power is big because he can deal massive damage to you using the transporter.O'Brien's toughness is big because he fucking tanks so much shit over the course of two series. His shoulder alone is contributing 2 to his 3.
>>98904332It was supposed to be a reference to people in the 24th century not understanding and misusing 20th century slang, like we see in the holosuite with Vic. I thought that might be too esoteric to convey though.
>>98904333>martial artist vs decorated soldier with easy access to laser guns
>>98904332Who up strippin their Mines n sheeit You niggas rollin Initiative or what?DAYUM
>>98904333My only gripe with O'Brien is that he should be not be an artificer, but a soldier.
>>98904333>Magic should not do IP properties, it's impossible to make things "match" from one thing to another>but innistrad zombies together with kamigawa cyberpunk ninjas theros hoplites and bloomburrow furries? Sign me up for that pod!Kekw
>>98904333>kills a lion with a squirrel
>>98904419>zombies together with kamigawa cyberpunk ninjas>>98904428>kills a lion with a squirrelall very valid pointsbut you gotta admit it's extra ridiculous when you add movie/show characters. reminds me of school kids arguing over who would win, Darth Vader vs Spider-Man. Superman vs Goku, that kind of thing.except you have the illusion that an official "Magic: the Gathering" card game would decide the PERFECT thing to compare such characters, within the context of their game, and instead it feels like nonsenseespecially when Star Trek is not really anything to do with wizards summoning monsters to fight. it makes zero sense to even try and combine the two things, but... they did!
>running a combo deck>I can make infinite mana with two cards>according to some dumbass this means it's a two card combo>when it would need at least 3 cards to win the gameLord help us all.
>>98904512That's why it's foolish to care about the number of cards in a combo, there really are some boomer people in the commander panelWhat matters is *when* you combo not *what* your combo consists of
>>98904514Both are kind of... esoteric. I personally view it as the level of difficulty in disrupting it and the average consistency in pulling it off. But neither of those things should be segmented by card pool; better players and better deck builders will naturally make more consistent or more resiliant things.
>>98904507Mtg from its inception in 1993 was quite literally built for the Fornite treatment, walkers jumping from one 'plane' to another is simply reducible to players jumping from one IP to anotherNow you might still insist that mtg should have its own lore, and that would be prudent and logical, but mtg while having the best mechanics in the space has had the shittiest lore for decades that never resonated and you have only seattle faggots to blameProof? That mtg manga is literally named after a MECHANIC and no mention of shitty UW, that's how bad mtg IP is
>>98904519>Both are kind of... esotericThere's nothing esoteric about limiting when you can combo off, in fact it's only logical; since the optimal way to win in edh is comboing off the way to make things casual is to limit thatI'm old enough to remember modern once upon a time being called a 'turn 4 format' by wotc, meaning infinites and altwincons were to be balanced to pop off at turn 4+ while infect was free to kill you turn 2 via combat damage
>>98904519>average consistencyWhat's too consistent for a combo to be 'banished' from casual? 35% to combo off early? 25%? 10%?Sol ring only has an 8% chance to appear in your opening 8 and people already cry about thatAnd there's nothing more esoteric than busting out the calculators and arguing that 10% is fine but 11% is cedh material
>>98904507>>98904507The part that gets me more in the context of Star Trek is that yes, these random space engineers are 3/3 creatures that could fight a space bear. But Miles O'Brien can also destroy the U.S.S. Voyager, or a D-7 Battle Cruiser. Even within the set itself, the creatures feel too large compared to the spaceships.I can only assume they were worried about what would happen if the set was full of huge fliers, but it just strikes me as off.
>>98904553This is just 'why can birds of paradise wield sword of fire and ice?' and once players accepted that leap of logic there was no turning back
>>98904541Super esoteric in edh because of the size of the cardpool. With the splintertwin example, people hated that shit getting banned at the time and from what I remember it was very poorly recieved, but the cardpool didnt have anything as compact and modular. Twin variants were popping up everywhere as a shell sort of like delver and dimir tempo variants are now in legacy. I can make a deck in edh that can combo out t1 at an impossibly low frequency. You cant X before Y is difficult to enforce if you have the conditions that exist to set it up. If you remove everything for those conditions to exist, then it's more reasonable to have those rules. But complex bans like in Pokemon are always ass in my view.
>>98904551Like 75%+ because my good decks and good decks as a whole can hit that benchmark pretty easily. That's power, otherwise it's variance.
>>98904564pokemon tcg? or do you mean like the games, because that is dumb sometimes.
>>98904575I meant the games and smogon and shit, where it's like this pokemon with that ability cant do this thing.
>>98904564>I can make a deck in edh that can combo out t1 at an impossibly low frequency.It's all fun and games until it's FNM commander and you lost to a t1 wombo combo, haha nice non game, gg no reYou have to look at the big picture anon, your 'impossibly low frequency' can mean the world to someone and the only practical way to enforce limits on combos is to look at turns not 'likelihood' (good luck quantifying that)
>>98904574>i can combo off early exactly 74% of the time, that's casual dont you know?>but you can combo off early 75%+ so you're a sweaty bastardRoru rumao
>>98904578Every competitive thing in the world has clauses and complex bans just like in rral life, stop being naive just because it affects your favorite kid's card game
>>98904579Huh? Mean the world to someone?And likelihood is pretty easy to quantify. Number of combo lines, average cmc, sources of acceleration, tutors, and power of card draw. Factor it out and plot it in an algorithn on moxfield. Or use those brute force goldfishing analysis programs. But I'm not really arguing for that, I'm saying it's a qualative problem in player level, not a quantitative problem in cards or rates.>>98904582Margin for error, even making a statement like that would disqualify you. These ninjas dont know what a wincon is.
>>98904593>putting turn limits is dumb and complex>you know what's simple and accessible? Counting all your combo lines, getting your avg cmc, sources of acceleration, tutors, and 'power of card draw' (whatever that means), and then put it in an algorithm and present your data to everyone on an excel spreadsheet!You are autistic and cannot accept that there are simple solutions to complex problems
>>98903787No, just spammed and raped the eyes of the general for months
>>98904605Bruh, no one calculates average cmc by hand. You just stick a number in a deckbuilding tool if you care that much. Casuals understand WAR, PER, and QBR just fine. It's not a good idea, but it's a lot more concrete than a bunch of conditional ifelse statements, and not particularly hard to make a standardized backend equation for it.But again, it's an issue in player ability, not cardpool. Plenty of people can stop a combo just fine.
>>98904620>people can understand my autism just fine!No they cannot, it's a kid's card game ffs>Plenty of people can stop a combo just fine.Cedh can stop combos just fine but nobody calls it casual for a reasonYour autism is betraying you, deep down you want a casual format but people being told to sandbag is just too much for you god forbid
>>98904630I dont particularly care about your opinions and have no interest in discussing them with you any further. So, insult me if you must, but being condescending to "casuals" is just disrespectful. People arent idiots.
>>98904651what's funny is that i never said casuals were stupid, what i said is that casuals aren't autisticand they will gladly accept 3 smogon-like clauses such as>no mld>no infinites/altwincons before turn X>X number of GCs>all three being in line with brackets btwfar more than you demanding that they bust out the calculators and the spreadsheets to satisfy your (ultimately arbitrary) definitions of 'what's too consistent'i'm not insulting you when i call you autistic btw, i'm just stating facts and the mentally disabled just aren't equipped to deal with certain tasks
I'm and out and proud trans lesbian and I only play simic
>>98904620>Casuals understand WAR, PER, and QBR just fineNigger you live in an autism bubble. Google doesn't even know what that means.
>>98904657That's nice sure sounds like you want a long discussion about the topic I'm not interested in.>>98904675Brother, you posted a picture of Jimmy Butler while saying that. They're composite sports statistics used by casuals to generalize the goodness of a player in the MLB, NBA and NFL respectively.
>>98904681casual basketball fans care about the most popular players and cheer at every 3 pointeronly hardcore basketball fans care about statisticsyou are autistic and wildly naive on top of it, control yourself before you sperg out any further
>>98904681>That's nice sure sounds like you want a long discussion about the topic I'm running away fromi know buddy boy, i know
>>98904681Buddy I just bench the guy if his stats are red in the app. No one is actually personally calculating those stats.
>>98904370I 100% understand
>>98904512He's rightYou are wrong
>>98904697Which is exactly what I said, no one calculating shit.>>98904692>>98904696Neat.
>>98904706>Which is exactly what I said, no one calculating shit.that's not even what you saidwhat you said was>They're composite sports statistics used by casuals to generalize the goodness of a player in the MLB, NBA and NFL respectively.>They're composite sports statistics used by casuals>They're composite sports statistics used by casuals>They're composite sports statistics used by casualscasuals don't look at statistics, much less calculate them
>>98904711Brother, are you really out here pretending to be retarded to start arguements on halloween? Start slow, write it down if you have to.
>>98904746and yet you're the one here thinking bball casuals even know what bball statistics even arethey don't
I slapped a darksteel plate on an empyrial archangel yesterday I am having more fun playing this shit format than all of you combined that is all thanks for reading
>>98904763>I slapped a darksteel plate on an empyrial archangelcoolanyway i go infinite with a draft uncommon
>>98904750Are you really pretending "casual" means "braindamaged" to justify your preferred way of being condescending in mtg? If you dont understand sports metaphors it's fine, all of "this" is quite funny but not at all required.
>>98904767you're the only one here defining 'casual' as 'autistic' btw haha
>>98904763This post is based>>98904766This post is cringeBring back competitive magic so these people have an outlet that isn't our binder fodder format
>>98904779>playing battlecruiser with crap rares is based>but going infinite with draft chaff is cringelmaoinb4 the autistic anon keeps denying that the issue in casual isn't early infinites
>>98904792YesGoing infinite with cards, regardless of their rarity is shortcutting a lot of the fun of the format
>>98904792>rarity somehow has a impact on boardstate>calls someone else autisticFOW is an uncommon btw
>>98904857Rhystic is a common
>>98904860GOTTEM
>>98904857>>98904860>>98904863NTA but regardless of rarity is exactly the right mindset.rarity has no game impact, it's entirely an artificial scarcity/gambling contrivance, a market concern not a game concern.
The toxicity of infinites is just a byproduct of the insistence that commander be a Bo1 format where people switch decks every single game. When you're in a consistent pod and everyone knows Billy is going to tutor for the second half of a Bond/Blood combo it's a lot easier (and more engaging) to interact with. Unfortunately a lot of commander players are children who will deliberately downplay what their deck will do, maybe they'll say they have "a combo" in it but "that it's slow" instead of just saying what the combo is (because then people would actually interact with it and god forbid you have to work to land your cheese). I've seen people ragequit over me playing telepathy-type effects just because they hate the notion they'll have to find a way to force it through without the benefit of the doubt.
>>98904792The funny thing is I played that card back in the day when all I had access to was bulk (at bulk prices got mine for a quarter) and people were already like>yeah anon we know>its freed from the real>ur not some geniusImagine playing it 13 years later thinking you found something interesting and paying almost 10 bucks for the privilege
>>98904879Best example of the kind of deck that gets significantly worse in games 2 and 3https://archidekt.com/decks/27941709/commander_vs_varolz_glenn_jones
>>98904957Such good taste.
I hope they keep the board like this forever it's pretty fun looking. who's playing tonight to get this dope Leyline of Anticipation promo? my LGS isn't doing a draft just giving it to commander players like at a commander party
>>98905107the only stores hosting the event in my area are having it today, theres a -256% chance I will be able to ever do a magic event on Halloween because of kids such a bummer, the only good reason to play mtg these days is promos
>>98905107>foil oval>black collector bar on bottomI wouldn't take it for free.
>>98904333Yeah bro I feel you. Wizard's should totally stick to their in house IP where they clearly know what they're doing, like how two house cats or two squirrels or two birds or two fish can kill a bear.
>>98905107I wish I could, but I gotta take the kid trick or treating. She'll be 13 this year, so it's the last year she'll be doing it, at least with me and her mom.
>>98905125Also thisThe card is ugly as sin compared to the originalThis thing is beautiful in foil
>>98904333>Human who is at peak human conditioning for the what is current standard of life we have now could take on a bearPlausible. Bears are very strong, and can move very fast, but have a hard time turning when they charge and humans have killed bears 1v1 by outlasting the bears stamina and dodging and striking a bear as its charging with its limited mobility. Risky, because, its a fucking bear, but possible.>Human, who has more advance training than what we understand in current timelines and with massively more powerful and advance technology as his standard as a normal starfleet personnel, not even accounting for what more combat oriented officers would have. A simple phaser would just immediately kill any bear without much thought or effort.You should be more annoyed at the fact there is only 1 difference between them, because taking their tech and training into it, the trek guy should be like a 5/5 or a 6/6. Base redshirts would be like 3/3s or 4/4s.
>>98905218>in foilNo man, you were so close.art pieces are trash when you're trying to look at the art through a rainbow hued reflection of the overhead lighting, it changes color and clarity, foil is fucking garbage even if it isnt curling the card, foil is child-bait.I pulled a foil elesh norn in new phyrexia, sold it for 80, bought the non-foil and still have it.
>>98904333>Eldritch entity completely immune to all magic and capable of destroying worlds>Dies to 12 squirrels in-game>Died to a fireball in actual storyBut yeah the complaint is how the 3-drop human has more stats than the 2-drop human.
>>98905233you're on the cuspart pieces are hardly done justice on tiny pieces of cardboard, you should see them at original size, preferably in person to appreciate the techniques.
>>98904507>especially when Star Trek is not really anything to do with wizards summoning monsters to fight. it makes zero sense to even try and combine the two things, but... they did!You're right Star Trek stuff just looks silly in the coherent swords and sandals low fantasy setting of Magic the Gathering.Anyways I equip Urtet my robotic commander from the robotic world where oil works like water with my Thran Power suit built on the planet with hyper advanced technology because it's adjacent to everything from the multiverse, which I then use to crew my monster truck from the futuristic India world where they regularly have races with cars and trucks which - thanks to the ability of the Inspirit, a fabled eternity spaceship from the Sothera system at the edge of eternity piloted by the AI robot Kilo - is indestructible which means Urtet runs over your commander Jetmir, the mafia crime boss from the 1920s art deco futurism world of New Capenna, with his monster truck!
>>98905246Yeah well there is a budget difference between having 100 tiny canvases in your hand and 100 canvas prints on your wall.
>>98905248His next line is that [hat sets]/[sets after X year] don't count.
>>98905246I think you're really close to realizing the truth.But you can't possibly truly understand any work of art created by another person. The only real thing you can understand is a work you have personally created. The meaning, the technique used, the reasons for all decisions. You should only produce art and not consume any, that's the answer.
>>98905233Same but by invitation onlyBtw this card is pretty good even at 5cmc
>>98905261Yes.2015 is the only hard non-arbitrary line to define the death of MtG.
>>98905276The frame truly killed the gameIts also the year I started playing which gives me mixed feelings desu senpai
>>98905233The foiling on the skyline of LOA is beautiful, you have no idea what you are talking about
>>98905276>>98905283>kitchen sink scifislop 2015+:(>kitchen sink scifislop before 2015:D
>>98905274>that artistmicah WHO?
>>98905297This but unironically The death of aethetics always precedes the death of the soul
I'm thinking of making a Yeva deck so I never have to play on my turn and can play on my opponents turns
>>98905297Golems are fantasy, but nice try at building a strawman (a kind of golem too)you're mistaking phyrexias mechanical aesthetic for mechanical substancea metal dragon is still a dragon, a metal goblin is still a goblin, etc...
>>98905306She's a bit expensive but can be very goodI think there's even a cedh mono green win-on-the-stack deck, i think it's more of a novelty than a real competitive list but I lost to it onceCan't for the life of me remember any of the kill cards except yevaI think as a big green deck she's still good enough
>>98905319Ai goblins are not goblins though
>>98905303Correct. That's why 1990s magic with things like Phyrexians who looked like a mechanical zombie virus kick ass while post-1999 Magic when they started trying to make the game into an epic fantasy story and changed things like the Phyrexians into being generic Star Trek Borg villains that look like dolls with the whole aesthetic shifting to generic vidya comic book art is gayshit. Magic died in 2000.
Who's this planeswalker?
>>98905319>it's not a robot it's a golem!>it's not an airplane it's a sky ship!>it's not a gun it's a slug thrower!>it's not a power plant it's an crystal focuser!Literal troon tier mental gymnastics. Grow up.
>>98905297uh, yeah?
>>98905321Correct, they're angels.
>>98905323Hmm Hard to disagree with that
>>98905321This makes me want pizza
>>98905334You reminded me of someone trying to argue the card literally named "Urza's Power Plant" wasn't a power plant and now I'm laughing. Thanks anon.
>>98905125>>98905218black bar on the bottom does suck. but a free foil promo is dope. >>98905209respek, yeah a few dudes in our pod have to take their kids trick or treating but not me
>>98905297Yes indeed the skinsuitification of mtg was a slow process but we are there nowNigga unironically will say >ah but this was inevitable But no it was a series of unforced errors and no amount of expostfacto rationalization will change that
>>98905363God, imagine licking the grease and cheese that falls off the pizza and slides under her massive green boobs!
>>98905329>Aladdin wins the Aetherspark at the Aether Drift derby>catches a ride back to earth with Captain Sisay>arrives to see that the Phyrexians, drawn by the white natsoc government of Donald Trump, are taking over earth >Aladdin has to start a resistance movement aided by Tam and her Strixhaven squad>Trump gets compleated and also wears a golem power suit so he's too much for Aladdin and his ragtag multiracial band of antifa resistance fighters>just as compleated Trump is about to kill Tam and Aladdin SUDDENLY through a portal Urza and his army of golems and Ajani with an army of Leonin and Kaya with an army of ghosts and Liu Bei with an army of an army of 2nd Century Chinese calvary and Loot riding his Roadster with all the other planeswalkers teleport in>Urza, cracking the knuckles of his power gauntlet: "You did good Aladdin but leave the rest to us. We're used to dealing with HIS type...">Ajani, to Chandra: "I'll take the ten million Nazi robots on the left...">Chandra, going into her Super Flamyajin 2 form: "...and I'll bash the ten million fash on the right!"EPIC EPIC EPIC EPIC EPIC
>>98905379>Slow processIt happened starting from literally the first set. There was no skinsuitification to occur.
>>98905363No pubes?
>>98905388If you unironically think mtg never had its own aesthetic you can't be helped
>>98905399The "aesthetic" of the game for the first dozen sets was "shit we already had lying around"
>>98905381>>98905363Imagine how much better the thread would be if you killed yourself.
the goblin posting is an exhibitionist activity, he receives sexual gratification from pedestrians' discomfort. it's basically the digital version of the homeless man jerking off wearing nothing but a trenchcoat in public.
>>98905399>he actually thinks the creators made magic with a specific aesthetic in mind and weren't just hiring anyone they could afford to draw art on the cheap all while borderline ripping off the near entirety of their library from the most popular fantasy and science fiction movies/television/comics/books of the dayI don't get why people still try to lie online about shit that's easily disproven in 10 seconds with a single search.
old mtg was good because it looked cool, something that cant be said for art in recent decades.
>>98905450Subjective personal opinion is not an argument. Most old mtg looks like fucking trash, while new art has a more coherent and pleasing style.
>>98905461pic unrel?
>>98905441This anon is projecting
>>98905473>>98905473>>98905473Happy Halloween ghouls (and those who identify as ghouls) and goblins!
>>98905450Here's that cool and good art I was telling you bros about!
>>98905488This is better than that Avacyn.
>>98905409Yes
>>98904333no, you don't get it. picard is SUPPOSED to be able to fight 2 bears altho he is an old man who only uses politics and no violence becauseBECAUSE HE JUST IS OKAY
>>98905675what are you talking about? picard can't fight a bear.
>>98905698I'm not talking about ordinary bears. I mean grizzly bears. sorry for the confusion but now I win
>>98905730are grizzly bears inherently unordinary?
>>98905730You can't win on your second reply in a Bracket 2 thread
>>98905730yeah, grizzly bears, sure.
>>98905762Huh what you mean?
