this will be our finest battle editionIn Stores Now:McFarlane:>MTS Exclusive Doomsday, Bane, Hush Catwoman, Robin>Super Powers wave 15 in stock online>Atrocitus & Red Lantern Corp 2-pack>Catwoman (Battle Damaged, Returns)>Batman (Deluxe Theatrical Edition, The Batman)>Commissioner Gordon (Deluxe Theatrical Edition, TDK)>Poison Ivy>Wonder Woman>Hawkgirl>Sentinel>Black mask>Braniac (classic Pink Shirt)>Black Adam>The Question>Beast Boy>Alex Ross Superman>Alex Ross Batman>Batman (Comic 89)>Two-Face (Comic 89)Mattel:>Wave 2 of DC Premiere (Superman, Jon Stewart, Jokerized Batman, Batman (Stealth Suit)>DC Premiere Batman vs. Killer CrocInArt:>Batman Arkham Origins Deathstroke, XE Suit Batman revealed, The Batman revealed>BvS Dawn of Justice Superman revealed***Pre-orders***Blokees:>Hush Catwoman>Hush BatmanMcFarlane:>Raven Collector's Edition>Wonder Girl Collector's Edition>Mera Collector's Edition>Batman #1 Page Punchers>Robin Page Punchers>Tim Drake Page Punchers>Nightwing Page Punchers>Super Powers (Final Wave) EE exclusive>Batman '66 Batman & Robin 2-pack up now>Superman Red & Blue 2-pack up now, McFarlane Store exclusive>Green Lantern Sinestro 9-10>Green Lantern Naut Ke Loi/Medphyll/Ghr'll 8-27>Arkham Origins Deathstroke 8-26Mattel:>$100 Batman Hush Rooftop SetInArt:>Batman Arkham Origins XE Armored Suit Batman, Batman Arkham Origins Deathstroke, The Batman up for orderMAFEX:>Superman (Death of) up now>Doomsday up nowMezco:>One:12 Peacemaker 8-26>One:12 Solomon Grundy up for pre-orderNECA:>Retro Cloth Superman, Green Lantern (Jon & Hal), Batman (Adam West), Superman (Christopher Reeve)Previous: >>11921099
>>11924828I didn't give you permission to use my image for the OP you goddamn queen
I got the Christopher Reeves Superman for $26 on Amazon. Not bad.
>>11924828Oh cool you used my image for the OP.
>>11924837Fuck off dude
>>11924834in a way your the richmans VF
>>11924855I meant you're but you know what i mean
>>11924855I don't treat this place like my personal blog though, and at least I only post actual DC toys.
>>11924834but it's such a cool image that is so dynamic and awesome and well posed! how could he not use it?
What killed DC General?THE ICE AGE!!!!
>>11924881I'm just really glad you like it
So'd they make his daughter?
Joker-Batman alla Lucio Fulci>>11924837Nice!
>>11924884Todd has his moments. Those are all pretty cool
Hey, I used to collect my DC stuff via Lego, but now that Lego DC is going down the tubes, can you guys give me some recommendations on which action figures from which companies I should get for the following characters?>George Perez Wonder Woman>Arkham Asylum/City Batman>Max Fleischer Superman>JLI Blue Beetle and Booster Gold>Bowl Cut Guy Gardner>JLU John Stewart>Eartha Kitt or DC Superhero Girls (2) Catwoman>Tommy "Hitman" Monaghan> Amanda Connor Power Girl> Any Nightwing with a "fanservicey" design
>>11924982Most of those were released by McFarlane Toys in some form or fashion but it'd be a pain in the ass to go hunting for all of them now. Some people might recommend just waiting for Mattel but uh, Mattel looks like Happy Meal toys so it's between hunting for figures that might be marked up to triple their retail value vs settling for dollar store versions you don't know will ever get made.There's a new Arkham Batman on shelves now and a Power Girl coming out in a couple weeks. Out of your list I'd recommend picking up the original release of the Fleischer Supes by McFarlane with the wired cape. There's a discount version at Ross right now but I think it's wireless.
>>11924881>dynamic>well posed
Toyshill has the Mattel hush Batman https://youtu.be/f1hkoxKWYcs
>>11925028Anon, I don't know who's dumber, the guy you replied to who compulsively replies to that guy every single time he posts to complain about his poses, or you who thinks he's being serious.
For anyone buying those $50 chase McFarlanes at bbts, I just have to wonder what went wrong in their life that led them to that point.
>>11925055Now we know why he was back handedly dissing mcfarlane figures during his latest reveal vids. He has Mattel waiting in the wings to send him free figgies.
>>11925118To be fair, it's absolutely warranted to shit on McFarts. I don't blame him. The only ones who still defend them have sunk cost fallacy.
>>11925118The whole Mattel release is so forced. When their baby toys dropped this place was flooded by one or two people spamming these things, then it immediately stopped completely. Pretty sure dhunter lurks here, probably a couple other reviewers because there aren't a ton of places to discuss toys that aren't heavily restricted. None of their discussion is about how cool they think the figure is or how much they enjoy it, it's almost like they only post about that crap because they get free children's toys and ad revenue.
>>11925122Keep coping Todd
>>11925122>then it immediately stopped completelyBecause there hasn’t been another wave yet. You’re such a whiny faggot dude.
>>11925120True it's warranted but influencers getting inside info and free samples kept it more restrained while it seemed mcfarlane was holding the license indefinitely.
>>11925124To keep using dhunter as an example, the average Todd figure gets between 2-6 thousand views. His Mattel stuff is barely breaking 1 thousand views.It's the same ratio across the line for all reviewers. Customers just don't care about Mattel reviews.
>>11925132This would be fascinating if it was legacy reviews. But legacy isn't out yet, so it's core no one cares about besides a few who prefer toy toys and not collector toys
>>11925132Who fucking cares? Why are you retards just incapable of buying and enjoying the toys you want and ignoring the shit you don't? I hate McFarts, skipped the whole line pretty much, but you don't see me coming in here and crashing out about them being discussed.
>>11925133We'll see how the numbers play out. Right now Mattel is trying really hard to hype the community and they're getting less traction than reviews for Black Condor lmao>>11925135I'm continuing a conversation and replying to a point someone else was making about how inorganic reviews are because they're getting free toys. This isn't about who's better, it's about the fact a dwindling market shows less interest in Mattel's entire waves of toys than they do about Black Condor regardless of how many free toys they send to influencers
>>11925055Mattel needs to work a bit on the torso movement to get a bit more range out of their figures, Chronicles has the same issue. Another is their chest sculpts, they're restricting the movement of the arms. I'm really tired of the notched elbows and knees, but they don't generally seem like they're too much of a pain.
>>11924955>Those are all pretty coolnICE pun
>>11925137If you need some dribbling retard on the internet to tell you whether or not a figure is good, you are probably too low IQ for toy collecting. Tbqh, I don't really watch reviews, if I need to see the transformation sequence, or check the accessories or something, maybe I'll check one out, but by and by, I don't need a clown on YouTube to tell me if they think a figure is good or not. I do see merit in watching a review for objective facts like quality control, articulation range, and other such things, but beyond that, you don't need some sperg gushing or hating a figure to determine if you want it or not, so who cares if they get it for free?
>>11925149>Mattel needs to work a bit on the torso movement to get a bit more range out of their figures, Chronicles has the same issueTo be honest, I am starting to think this is just a consequence of switching to ball joints in the torso and waists. They just don't get that great of range compared to a crunch. And before someone tries to shill Jada or Storm or some other company, see >>11923271. It's just the slightly more limited range a ball joint gives you, but you can bend in any direction. So it has it's positives and negatives.
>>11925158Ryu is blocked by sculpt. Chun Li is much better for an early sf jada figure
>>11925171>Chun Li is much better for an early sf jada figureI mean, not really.
>>11925174Anthony blown out. Confirmed ugly ML archaic ab crunches are superior to even well designed double ballpegs. Toybiz was rihht, justice for Toybiz.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3dqTYHMKTsIT'S UP
>>11925158i'm okay with either way, personally. they both work for what they do
>>11925158So yes a standard ab crunch will usually get a deeper bend just because of the way it's cut, but a ball torso and waist in tandem can definitely do just as good. It depends on how the socket is shaped, as well as the size of the ball. Look at an AY or SexyIce for pretty much the best a double ball peg can do, and it's not because the articulation style is any different, it's entirely because of how it's cut and the size of the ball. Same applies to the necks for a barbell there.
>>11925275Yeah, you're correct. I'm just highlighting that the limited torso crunch you see in most domestic brands is because of the limited ball joints in the torso. AY Spidey 2.0 can almost hit a 90 degree angle with how they designed his torso. But at the same time, AYs cost like $85 minimum nowadays.
I've never needed more ab crunch, and I never will.
>>11925281nobody asked
>>11925277Why can't domestics just copy the way imports do it?
why are you faggots obsessed with action figures capable of sucking its own dick
>>11925293Batcock aint gonna suck itself my young ward
>>11925281I could probably stand to do a few. I've been getting a bit... doughy
>>11925286Could have to do with difficulty to manufacture? I'm not sure. But for ball and socket torsos, that could absolutely be copied.
>>11925286Because Americans are retarded and stubborn and think their way of doing things is good when its clearly not. This applies to every facet of life, such as politics, economics, entertainment, health and medicine, etc. a dumb broken country full of retards.
>>11925293>just fuck my shit up with torso articulation>like just carve a giant upside down U into the chest so my Batman can suck his own dick>yeah I just leave my figures in A pose crammed into a shelf together so what
>>11925321Was there ever a time when figures like this were considered good looking?
>>11925329bruh marvel legends still looks like that and now it always has to look like that or the people with hundreds of figures will complain it looks different lol
>>11925321>like just carve a giant upside down U into the chest so my Batman can suck his own dickBut that's a very important feature
>>11925336Marvel Legends do not look that bad. The lack of giant pins and weird outlandish He-Man proportions helps
ValleyForge the mods declined your ban request for me on /trek/ lmao.>>11925174I'm one of those lame guys who barely does dynamic poses so this isnt really a big issue for me.
>>11925336why the fuck does it have a marvel logo, it should be DC
>>11925347>it was a hasbrony concern trollingEvery single time lmao
>>11925357He went after you there? wtf is going on
>>11925122Wave two came out in August and the only new thing that has happened is the Hal/Freeze/Batman 3 pack that's been online for months just hit Target stores. There's literally nothing to talk about other than fixing paint problems or making customs.
>>11925496looks like a lot less shading than the promos suggestedill stick with the inart
>>11925496Oh hey, your Cuck Fighter's knees havent yellowed yet, grats.
>>11925560>ill stick with the inartTo be fair, the kinda person who buys Inart (or Mafex or Figuarts even) isn't their target audience. It's the kind of person who buys McFarlane and Marvel Legands.
>>11925647It's really weird how you guys can't fathom the fact that most people who buy imports also supplement their collections with domestic figures. I collect Mafex stuff but I plan on getting Mattel stuff to go along with it. I do the same for Marvel figs and Marvel Legends. I'm not loyal to any one brand and you'd have to be massively autistic to be.
>>11925658NTA but domestics can't really mesh with the house style of an Amazing Yamaguchi. Maybe Mafex as its generic enough in many cases.
>>11925149They need to work on their shitty sculpts. Even MOTU Origins was patchy, and Masterverse, Chronicles, and what we've seen of their DC stuff is just ass.
>>11925496This is the final retail version that will be shipping. We’re getting what we saw leaked at nycc ready to ship on January 1st. This all comes from toyshiz comments on the video.
Oh and expect hush Batman to be shipping soon
>>11925720from who?
>>11925749He means the Mattel Creations set, but I'd wonder why you think that. I'd have to think they'll likewise have to wait until at least Jan 1 to send them out.
>>11925750The deluxe price point is what’s making it able to ship out while Todd still holds the license. That’s also the reason it was the only thing they were legally allowed to show at nycc.
>>11925769Adding to this it’s the reason it’s $100. It would’ve been priced at $80 otherwise but Mattel wanted to show people what they had coming and wanted to be able to get in people’s hands. Everything that’s dropping on January 1st is what was originally going to start coming out in July beside the kids line before Todd got an extension.
>>11925769>The deluxe price pointIs that really how this works? That was the logic behind McFarlane's The Joker figures too, though I'm pretty sure those were a lot more than 100usd. And surely there have to be some caveats, what then would stop Mattel from putting out multiple figure bundles at 100+ or something, like if they sold all of wave 1 w/ Bane as a pricey bundle.
The reason everyone that was at the nycc “press” event is saying get ready is because Mattel already has half a years worth of product ready because of the extension granted to Todd. That doesn’t mean all of the 60+ items are all finished sitting in shipping containers here. What this means for us as consumers is we will not have any preorder delays ever with this line because of the runway the production was given.
>>11925771Mattel knows they’ll make more money with desirable BAFs and it keeps the line healthy. Believe it or not they actually want the line to succeed and have a team that’s made an amazing roadmap for the line. There will never be a figure that is locked in a Mattel creations exclusive. Things like dioramas and props are different tho.
>>11925772bullshit lies
>>11925775Okay.
>>11925775I’ll correct myself there should be no preorder delays from production ever. Obviously nobody can guarantee no delay from overseas shipping but like I said they are so far ahead we should never notice as customers. Retailers are already being sent stock right now.
>>11925780>Retailers are already being sent stock right now.99% probability things get leaked if that's the case. >>11925774They'd still obviously sell wave 1 at retail, but if it was really just item cost they could sell a "preview wave" at a premium right now if they wanted to. I also don't believe that there won't be characters and looks locked behind creations or exclusives.
I'm honestly excited, Mattel's stuff has had really good distribution in my country and the prices have been good, so if they keep it up for the Legacy line I am probably getting the whole Absolute Wave
>>11925496I mean, using Wolverine in these scaling things is bullshit, cause he's supposed to be 3'0 tall.
>>11925496fucking hell it really puts in perspective just how fucking massive Todds shit is
>>11925791>cause he's supposed to be 3'0 tall.5'3
>>11925795>1:10 scale is bigger than 1:11 scale whoa
>>119258061:10+
>>11925808nice try, but that batman is actually seven inches flat to the top of his head, making him less than 1:10. the three jokers/hush body, on the other hand, is almost perfect. if anything, the mcfarlane line might be too small across the board.
why are americans so insecure about height?
>>11925496The Mattel still seems too tall compared to MLs or Storm
>>11925774>There will never be a figure that is locked in a Mattel creations exclusive.I've gotta wonder why other lines at Mattel do it then
>>119258836'2 Bats vs 5'10 Peter, vs 5'6-8 Ryu. That absolutely looks about right.>>11925884I wouldn't take this statement as true just yet.
>>11925774>There will never be a figure that is locked in a Mattel creations exclusive.mattel does this all the time. they love exclusives. they had an obnoxious amount the last time they had the license too.
>>11925886> 5'10 Peter,yet the toy is 6 inches and not 5.8 inch to fit that height making all the scaling wrong when batman is supposed to be 6 inch
>>11925884>>11925888I’m repeating what I heard from a retailer that spoke with a Mattel rep. The hush Batman diorama is a good example of what would be on there. Other hypotheticals given were props like a life size green lantern battery. The only thing to worry about would be something like a scaled anti monitor or something like that.
>>11925896Wrong
>>11925899Are you really so bored you're spending your Sunday night making up weird shit about Mattel toys?
>>11925905I’ve friends with a Canadian retailer who is currently getting his Mattel products in. Believe me or don’t. You guys are always faggots whenever someone tells you anything.
>>11925896Mattel's line nor ML are true 1/12, so if the figure's are relatively accurate to each other, that's what's important. I'm saying a 6'2 person next to a 5'10 person, a 4" difference, would look about like those 2, not that one Peter is 5.83" and Bruce is 6.17".
>>11925909You shouldn't take doubt in an anonymous board as people harping on your or anything, it's hard to believe randoms, especially when there have been people claiming to be insiders on the DC thread and just spreading nonsense. Also I'm not sure I follow what you're saying, you're suggesting that figures won't be MC exclusives, but instead dioramas or props? That's pretty hard to believe, desu. For Hush Batman, if the logic is that there will be an Ultimate of him down the line, I buy that, but I can't imagine every random niche character could end up at retail if they're sold online. And like you said A-M would not likely be something that could be sold outside of the online space. Maybe some online retailers would carry it, if that somehow counts as a caveat.
>>11925886>>11925888>>11925896>>11925899>>11925904>>11925905>>11925909>>11925933>>11925934Keep coping and seething while I drop some actual knowledge on this thread. You "insiders" talking to a generic "Canadian retailer" are completely out of your depth. I actually have the direct line to what Mattel is executing with this DC license, and the swagger I’m bringing to the table is backed by concrete reality, not hypothetical guesswork. Let's address the flagship elephant in the room: the DC Premium Batman: Hush Rooftop Bat-Signal Diorama Set that just dropped on Mattel Creations for $100. If you think the entire master universe line is going to be locked behind an online paywall, you’re dead wrong. Mattel is playing the long game. The high-end, gimmick-heavy pieces like the electronic Bat-Signal with built-in ultrasonic foggers are built for the direct-to-consumer crowd. But standard, deeply desired comic figures? They are absolutely hitting brick-and-mortar retail shelves. More importantly, let's talk about scale, because some of you are completely lost trying to normalize bad math. Saying "relative accuracy is all that matters" is pure loser talk popularized by years of oversized, wonky lines. The industry standard dictates a true, dedicated 6-to-6.5-inch 1:12 scale baseline.Mattel is intentionally aligning their new DC Core and premium collector lines right out of the gate with this exact footprint. Why? Because a 6-inch scale means absolute shelf harmony. True collectors want their Batman to stand perfectly proportioned next to an imported mafex or standard retail Marvel Legends without looking like a giant freak. Precision scaling isn't a recommendation; it is the entire foundation of a successful universe. Bookmark this post and check back in when the 2027 lines roll out.
Post toys
>>11925950It's shit.
>>11925959Post *your* toys.
>>11925959Neat kitbash
>>11925959You can swap arms on the kids line?
>>11925959I've still only seen wave 1 at retail, and not even Batman.
>>11925951>I actually have the direct line to what Mattel is executing with this DC license, and the swagger I’m bringing to the table is backed by concrete reality, not hypothetical guesswork.All of that text to say absolutely nothing of value, just the blindingly obvious. You might as well have said "These figures will definitely have articulation and some paint."
>>11926006It’s an ai shitpost
What do you guys want most from Mattel that you didn’t get from mcfarlane? For me it’s >Brainiac robot form>Superman robot x2>Clark Kent superboy>Jor-El >Ultra humanite >Clark Kent >Lois Lane >Parasite >Metallo
>>11926019I got everything I wanted from McFarlane.
>>11925950Literal giant turd
>>11926019There's nothing Mattel can offer that I'd be interested in
>>11926019I just want new animated figures that aren’t shitty dc directs
>>11926363Not even Phantom Lady?
>>11924828Im still disappointed that mcfarlane didnt get to the ventriloquist and scarface before the license expired
>>11925950>NO I WON'T PUNCH HIM! HE'S A GIANT TURD!
>>11926400
>>11926367The last Phantom Lady action figure was released in 2002. The last statue/bust was in 2009. Do you remember where you were during 9/11? Because that's when Phantom Lady was coming off assembly lines in China.Companies have won and lost the license and mined for obscure literal who's for over two decades now. The closest I probably got to a new figure was whoever at McFarlane loved Starman and was making characters from that series, but they fucked around and followed insane logic toy company logic where the less desirables are made first so they had to make Black Condor before Phantom Lady.Now sex appeal is a cultural taboo so the odds of someone like Mattel making a Phantom Lady are pretty much zero. Even if they did, they'd probably go with Stormy Knight instead of Sandra Knight, and anyone other than Sandra Knight or Dee Tyler as PL is a hard pass.It's so many gay ass hoops to jump through that I have no realistic hope of anyone making her, except maybe Todd releasing a public domain version as part of his Elite series. BBTS might go for it with their new crowdfunding platform. Plus Mattel's house style is fucking repulsive so even if they made her it'd just be a massive disappointment.
>>11926400>>11926403i don't...?
Toying around just posted a video talking about the press advance look at nycc. Tip toeing around his nda he said to not buy the $100 hush figure because there is a wave coming.
>>11926411You just ban people like a crazy person then post AI slop and a bunch of off topic crap like this?
>>11926572when the truth comes out, your entire world is going to shatterlike a neca taking a shelf dive
>>11926411Could you just, like, shut the fuck up about this already? It’s well past being stale.
>>11926411Lay off the AI you fucking sped.
>>11926577I'm sure you think that makes some kind of sense in your power tripping brain.
>>11926577Wtf
Man I hope we get tons of figures based off of Dan moras art
>>11926605Mattel isn't real good at copying art styles, is my issue there.
>>11926609Fraction Batman, hush Batman and absolute all look on model. I’m optimistic
>>11926605I’ve never seen that Robin costume and I am completely up to date on worlds finest
>>11926614its not real, no real artist would actually use that as a color scheme for robin.
>>11926605>>11926614>>11926629It looks like an AI edit (what the fuck is with all the AI being shared in these threads lately?), reverse image spat this out, and I think it's the original variant cover).
>>11926648>what the fuck is with all the AI being shared in these threads lately?It's a huge fucking problem!
I gave absolute a shot. Everyone is either brown, gay or a communist. Haven’t red flash yet and not reading GL. You can tell all the hype is manufactured after reading it. The only people taking this shit seriously are Mexican zoomers, self hating whites and Jim Lee trying desperately to save his job.
>>11926629I don’t hate it. I’d like it better if the grey was black but the red mask is sweet.
>>11926659Oh I’m totally getting this Hawkman now
>>11926684Hell yeah
>>11926605Gross
>>119260192003 cartoon Teen Titans, Warlord, Bwanna Beast.
>>11926019Oh and those toku Batman from the Dan Mora miniseries
>>11926684That sounds so try hard lol. But his mask is cool.
>>11926019A more accurate Sentinel Alan Scott. And a more accurate Cyborg Superman from War of the Green Lanterns, for that matter.
>>11926019I have no reason to expect it considering they barely did one back when the movie came outButFaora
>>11926718I'll second this. We keep getting Zod, but we need Faora, Nam-Ek, Ursa, and Non.
Beast Kingdom Catwoman. The face looks really off.
>>11926659it's Absolute Shite
>>11926648I'm thinking about picking up the new Impulse or Kid Flash or whatever he's called to make my dream League but there's still no decent Metallo for Lex.>>11926586>>11926596You don't have any proof I'm a mod or a janny, it's just a delusion you've been repeating to yourself for half a decade now. I know you've got like four threads running where you're rolling around on the ground pissing yourself crying about me being everything wrong with your little world, but I don't have anything to do with your problems. You're legitimately insane and wrong about everything, and it's going to be fucking hilarious when there's no hiding from that fact. You retarded fucking bitch, fuck you.
>>11926776NTA but I just find you to be extremely annoying. Very full of yourself. Stop pretending the world revolves around you. Such a goddamn queen you are.
>>11926739These move like robots
>>11926736>>11926739>>11926740Decent looking figure but the poses are not doing it any favours.
>>11926815You can't do better
>>11926776>I'm thinking about picking up the new Impulse or Kid Flash or whatever he's called to make my dream League but there's still no decent Metallo for Lex.Nobody gives a shit.
>>11926739Literally me that one time in China when I had to use the ground toilet in one of our university buildings >>11926740Also literally me when I walked out without being covered in shit
>>11926776The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
>>11926019Prometheus. There doesn't exist a single action figure of him despite having a simple design.
DC's last gift to you will be the Mattel Legacy collection. After that, action figure manufacturing for a domestic market will be stopped and the dreadful end will encompass all collecting.
>>11926863Things are going to get very bad for all of us, yes
>>11926863>>11926865whitey surely fucked up in designating China as the only country to make everything huh
>>11926684>crazy old guy dressed like a bird can't shut up about the war from 80 years ago that rages in his head dailyi mean that's just standard stuff it's not really woke
>>11926868kek you know what I bet they'll make the Joker an actual Nazi this time around and it'll end up being based
>>11926876That happens in the 40s anon
>>11926868Plastic manufacturing give you cancer. Chicks can make my fidget spinners all they want.
>>11926865Yup.
>>11926884you buy those toys made in china , actual retard
>>11926886Do you not understand the difference in handling raw materials and breathing in air that is so thick with plastic it looks like fog vs playing with the finished product?
This right here >>11926886 is a faggot that has never been in a factory.
Wha go up fo preorder today??
I wish NECA did more DC figures, the stuff they are able to do is absolutely fantastic.
>>11926903The DC figures they did in the 2 packs are still some of my favorites. I just want them to do more movie figured. Shrink down Penguin and Catwoman for ultimates.
>>11926891Some people have rooms full of plasticizing figures. We here at dc gen seem to have a long running paranoia about this.
>>11926913Your every day household items are leaking more plasticizer than your toys are anon. Holy shit the people on this board and in this thread in general are incredibly fucking retarded.
>>11926933It’s not his fault anon. Most people don’t even understand their clothes are plastic.
>>11926942We are the toys
>>11926881that makes it even less woke
>>11926988Exactly that’s why it’s badass
>>11926776>You retarded fucking bitch, fuck you.Well this is undeniably trolling, so this post should be deleted and you banned for it. Assuming you're not lying to them and you are but a simple, meek shitposter.
My second to last McFarlane pile of loot totaled roughly $150. Glad the line is ending soon, Todd is living rent free in my wallet.
If you put his trip code into AI it gives you a summary of everything everyone complains about him wherever he goes it's amazing. I know AI can be faulty but you can make it send you archive links for proof.
>>11927041Word on the street is that Todd is having panic attacks daily
Oh shit he's actually a drugged out /x/ tier schizophrenic. https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/boards/adv.f.hr.o.pol.s4s.sp.trv.x/tripcode/%21tan8H.M.UM/page/1/Your think schizos wouldn't be easy to find tripfags out of paranoia at least.
>>11927053Yeah that one anon made an ai that could identify him without his trip based off of his namefag posts contents
>>11927041Rookie numbers. I'm going to have $150 in tax to pay when I call in my current POL.
>>11927071>>11927078This is who's been terrorizing the board? Geez.
>>11926903NECA anon dropping his own lures now.
>>11927147You are delusional
>Ultimate Killing Joke Batman>Legacy Absolute Batman>Legacy (judging by box size behind) JLU Batman>Ultimate Killing Joke Joker>Ultimate (judging by box size behind) DCU Superman
Close up shot of the Batmen.
>>11927187Why were these allowed to be leaked?
>Legacy All-in Batman>Legacy DCU (When he was blending in on Earth-X) Peacemaker. Looks to be a BAF judging by the weird creature thing on the box.Sneak peak of the next Absolute Wave >Sol Armor Superman>Absolute Ra's Al Ghul>Absolute Peacemaker >Absolute Superman (Blue suit)>Absolute Superman (Black suit)>BAF Absolute Brainiac >>11927194From the owner of the pics>China Toy Expo (CTE) is mainly a B2B toy trade fair that focus on mass retail/low end and kid's toys which is why Jada/Mattel/Playmate/ZD toys are there instead of going to the Wonder Festival. It was rarely covered and way less well known (to the average collectors) for this exact reason.
>>11927196>>11927191>>11927187These look absolutely awful
>>11927198Why, anon. Tell us. Use your words.
>>11927198Then don’t buy them. Only one of these I’m getting is all in Batman which looks way better there than the sample they had at nycc. Will probably still the Bruce head from killing joke tho. This is going to be my one and done Batman unless I need to by him again for a build a figure.
>>11927208*steal
>>11927187>cheap plastic lookNothing kills a look more than shiny bright plastic. They look as cheap as unpainted plamo.
>>11927196lol peacemaker looks awful, right in line with the shitty soft goods in the wwe line
>>11927196>>11927191>>11927187lol Matty. your shit still sucks, after all these years
>>11927191This confirms the JLU figures (Booster Gold, Deadshot and Wonder Woman) will be from the animated cartoon and not the current comic run. Anyways, I'm really excited for this JLU Batman. The sculpt looks really close to his animation model and the cut outs don't seem to compromise the figure. They can keep reusing this buck for other male JLU characters since they all share the same model. Such a big improvement from mcfarlane.
>>11927078This doesn't surprise me at all.
I put Adam West's head on the Leto Joker body. He's got a pencil neck though.
>>11927250
>>11927191>absolute batman is wolverine sized manletinto the thrash it goes. i was going to buy the whole wave, now only catwoman
>>11927191>>11927270You're not wrong since he's meant to be bigger than usual in the comic but at the same time, I kinda don't mind it because having him at average Batman height makes it easier to have his bigger villains like Bane and Joker tower over him. I think I'll actually stick with Mattel for this since I don't really like the Absolute verse enough to go all-in on the imports.
>>11927270That is surprisingly scaled badly. he's supposed to be 6'9 to regular Batman's 6'2, but looking at this wider shot >>11927187 regular Batman looks huge compared to Joker and Corenswet, so maybe he's the wrong size? Not sure what's going on, will need to see better pics.
>>11927071>>11927078How mad do you think he is that this stayed up the whole time posting stopped for everyone to see?
>>11927282Now that you mention it, Killing Joke Batman does look fuckhueg even compared to everyone else in that shot. Optical illusion maybe?
>>11927196>Sneak peak of the next Absolute Wave>>Sol Armor Superman>>Absolute Ra's Al Ghul>>Absolute Peacemaker >>Absolute Superman (Blue suit)>>Absolute Superman (Black suit)>>BAF Absolute BrainiacI don't much care for Absolute Brainiac, but it seems like he's important. Ra's was Superrman's first major villain in the book so I get his inclusion. We didn't really need 3 versions of Superman, though the armor is cool enough. I assume only one of the blue or black will have the BAF piece, and the other will have some extra accessory, maybe Steel's hammer to recreate this.Since the first wave included Hawkman who's more of a Superman character (at this time), I guess there's no guarantee a Wonder Woman wave would necessarily only feature WW characters. I'd think the armored look along with the unarmored WW would make sense, but otherwise I'm not sure what else they might pick from her universe. Otherwise there's Black Adam, more Bat characters. There's always Zatanna. BAF could be her skeletal Pegasus.
>>11927293Steroids
>>11927303>>11927304I don't get why no one is straightening his ears out when they already have him in-hand. It just looks goofy all warped like that.
>>11927307Yea
>>11927307Maybe they have to return it and straightening the ears could theoretically count as modifying the figure?
>>11927303now i notice how huge are marvel hands and feet
Lookin' good!
>>11927340The Mattel figures have small hands and small feet.
>>11927406Whoever posed these could not have cared any less.
>>11927458It’s awe inspiring really
>>11927299They could pick the rest of the suicide squad, Circe, that atlantean lady and her fishmen as army builders. But outside of that AWW only have civilians,monsters and the greek gods
>>11927458>>11927487And why display the packaging at all if it isn't remotely finished? What even is this shit?
>>11927191Killing Joke Batman is based on the shitty recolor where they removed the yellow of the Bat symbol.
>>11927041>>11927121>$150 in taxSad, if true. I started a POL because one of vault pre-orders finally came in, and there's one other, so that's $54-55 + tax. I might add one extra of another vault figure and I will probably pick up a few of the sale items. Because it's all over-priced plastic junk not worth the retail, even a 50-70% discounted item is still $9-$13 so I will hit $100 in shitty McFart but that's purely because it's DC and the particular characters. Todd's shat out about 8-10 DC figures every 30 or so days if you count vault, Super Friends, Ross Exclusives, Super Powers, and other Retro items like BTAS, but I can barely bring myself to have purchased about 10-15 of them and so of those I regret and plan to flip once I can, like Zatanna.
>>11927187Is that an articulated Krypto?All is forgiven, all hail Mattel
>>11927498That's disheartening
>>11927498good riddance, i hate the yellow bat symbol.
>>11927187>jl batmanoh fuck theyre actually winning me over bros. what a weird animated one to start with, maybe picked him since hes gotten the shaft for so long
>>11927520shut up nolanits the focal point of his whole design and its integral to making him pop on the pages
>>11926903>figuresthey make decorations not figures. silly man
>>11927520>i hate the yellow bat symbol.The yellow symbol is objectively best.
>>11927561Hating the yellow oval is also a really old head thingLike super oldBolland and Frank Miller are so old they dislike that the vocal was added in the 60s
>>11927562You might be the dumbest person alive
>>11927340Reminds me of Duplo compared to regular Lego.
>>11927498SOVL vs soulless
>>11927572Yeah DC is looking like kid's toys more and more
>>11927340>>11927572>>11927600always strange to see incels cry about leifeld proportions then shit on anything that doesn't have fuck huge heads or hands
>>11927270Because they want you to buy Ultimate Absolute Batman. He's will be 7 inch so in scale with the rest.>>11927196I don't get it.That Peacemaker is also in "01 series"?That means every Legacy brand will be it's own series? Main DC. Absolute. Elseworlds.But we're already saw main DC wave labeled as "02 series". wtf?
>>11927612But again the next absloute wave is labeled as 4.
>>11927606>huge heads
>>11927520have we even seen a batman from the new mattel stuff with a yellow-backed insignia? there's been half a dozen of these guys so far and not one of them has one.>>11927612it's probably because all the boxes are cut up and shuffled around. might just be repurposed
>>11927492The baseline efforts you can expect from mattel after the first waves
>>11927618This is what men looked like in the 1940s
>>11927252gross
>>11927270InArt's Absolute is probably gonna be the only one with proper scaling. He'd better be as big as Chinese Broly.
>>11927571Hey man they put it on the box not me
>>11927698Hey man, you're a real obvious troll and no matter how many times you post that image, it will still be meaningless.
>>11927498what the fuck is this. what the fuck man.
>>11927187look at that, more batman
>>11927774You can't spell DC without Batman!
>>11927774We’ve actually seen more Superman figures than Batman now.
>>11927191Why are they so bad at this
>>11927808If only there was as good at making figures as you are at sucking cock
>>11927822Try to hide your jealousy better
>>11927774The only reason to get the DC license is to make Batman. He's the one that brings the money.
>>11927838which is why I don't want anyone but hasbro to make marvel toys. anyone else would make endless waves of spider-man and wolverines. I would never have my waifus and husbandos and all the other wholesome randos which make an universe.
>>11927864>anyone else would make endless waves of spider-man and wolverines.you are suggesting hasbro doesnt?
>>11927822If any company was as good at making figures as I am at sucking cock we'd be living in a golden age
>>>11927864 which is why I don't want anyone but hasbro to make marvel toys. anyone else would make endless waves of spider-man and wolverines.i think its pretty sad that the ideal company in making toys is DC Direct, yet nobody cared to buy their toys due to confusion about their lines.
>>11927880I bought them. They were pretty good for the time. They're a bit dated imo by today's standards but they're alright. I was just futzing with Green Lantern the other day. It'll be good to get updates though with more modern range of motion.
>>11927492>And why display the packaging at all if it isn't remotely finished?It's weird considering we've seen more or less fully developed packaging from the leaks from TF.
>>11927864I want to love hasbro toys but their art direction is so bad, they have a weird hard on for realism that just doesn't mesh well with comic book characters. Atleast mattel is getting it right by not sticking to one art style. The MvC2 line is a great example of how hasbro just refuses to change their style to fit the actual art style of the game they're basing it on.
>>11927893>They're a bit dated imo by today's standardsi really hate the way people say this, because today's standards are basically the standards that existed in 2005, before HAsbro took over. Even then, the engineering from bck then offered better range of motion.Also, two waist joints plus drop down hips was better than Hasbro's current standards and the paint was also many times better. So the only thing that was really missing on them was the inner shoulder joints.Pic related is why i never bothered to buy most of what McFarlane offered and why i'm not going to bother buying Mattel's mediocrity. These are nearly perfect, except for Batman being too small and that's why i've bought Mezco's.
>>11927896I think what HAsbro is doing is fine. They're just following in the footsteps of Toy Biz, who used to make cartoon versions for cartoon lines, but used the Marvel Legends toyline to genericize their characters. REalistic characters fit in with other realistic characters, and there's hundreds of different realistic lines every year, whereas some cartoon or comic version would only be able to fit in with the same style of cARtoon or comic.And I'll bring up DC Direct again, who had multiple lines just to make ONE artist's version of the characters.DC Direct was the ideal toy maker, who could give everyone what they wanted. And they had the best sculptors in the industry, who could do near perfect 1:1 renditions.Where the fuck are those sculptors now? ProbABly going to waste.
>>11927935These look like better painted Marvel Legends with matte finish and with pins
>>11927935>ate the way people say this, because today's standards are basically the standards that existed in 2005, before HAsbro took over. Even then, the engineering from bck then offered better range of motion.those hips look like shit
>>11927774It's not about how much Batman there is, it's about how many other characters we get as well, and the fact that they've already shown a Black Lightning bodes very well.
>>11927935While the articulation scheme is solid, the range is lacking in places and they could do with a few additions like thigh swivels and butterfly joints of some kind. The torso range on them is just a tad limited imo, like I said I was just playing around with my Icons GL like a week ago while listening to a podcast. Some stuff just felt a little antiquated when compared to like a modern GI Joe or something. And that's fine, they're over a decade old. Nothing wrong with that. I still have that Damian on my shelf and would be using that Babs if I didn't miss her when she was at my LCS. I only replaced Batman and Nightwing with the Mafex figs because they're just better figs, but at also like 3x the cost so it is what it is. They're far from perfect, but they're certainly good figures still.
>>11927971>the Mafex figs because they're just better figsoof.the articulation might be better, but they looked too much like the cheapo DCUC figures, complete with generic oversized beefcake bodies and ugly glossy plastics.Neither ofthem look like Jim Lee style, but Batman made a good enough generic batman. Nightwing was supposed to be more lithe than how Mafex mde him, with their super exaggerated shoulders.Also, if you had sold your Icons Nightwing a couple of years ago, you'd be able to buy a Mafex from his resale value. He's only going for $60 now, which is surprising, considering how great he still looks.Also also, only the first Icons were a bit limited. Everything else was ML range or better later on.
>>11927994Ok, that doesn't make anything else I said untrue though. And I don't sell my toys because the return I never worth the hassle of mailing it out and I'm not a broke faggot that needs to sell my stuff to buy more stuff.
>>11927996if i didn't talk about the other parts of your posts, it's because i don't disagree or think you're allowed that opinion.Most of what i said is to express my opinion that the mafex figure wasn't worth it because of it having that super cheap glossy, everyone-is-using-superman's-buck DCUC look.And good for you for not selling your shit. I don't either... but i would if they're super overpriced on ebay like Nightwing was. At 60? Eh... roughly double the price i paid? meh.
> it’s just a the little kids line with a few extras
>>11928038at $100, i expect a matte finish and better paint than that.$100 is Mezco One:12 territory and they're a hell of a lot better made and have more features than that box set.That figure doesn't even look as good as a DC Collectibles figure from 2016 when they were $25.
>>11928002Either you're an imposter, or you're getting lazy, what the hell happened doodler?
>>11928038do you think theres a huge difference here?
>>11928012No one fuckig cares about your unsolicited opinion subjectanon. Get over yourself.
>>11928054>That figure doesn't even look as good as a DC Collectibles figure from 2016 when they were $25.Lol. Lmao even. It's certainly not worth $100 but it is at least better than those statues.
lmao i told you people literally years ago that mattel would only disappoint you and you casuals and newfags didn't listen
>>11928038I feel good with my blokeez
Messing around with these makes me want a Kart Racer.
>>11928038Better Superman face than any of Todd's
>>11928089now race em on a hot wheels track
>>11928066This place doesn’t deserve high effort
>>11928080The vocal minority of perma online faggots are disappointed. People that wanted dc marvel legends are thrilled unironically. You’re living in an alternate reality if you think this is Mattel failing.
>>11927950Tokenism runs rampant at large corporations so it makes sense they produce some random black figures
>>11928123we'll see how well the line goes.We rarely had DC threads from 2009 til 2019, until it was announced that Mattel lost the DC license, and then we had a couple to rejoice that they finally lost the license.When McFarlane started releasing their DC figures, we had one every week or thereabout, and everyone was posting about their toys.So if Mattel's line does well, the DC thread should remain on the front page like it has been on almost daily basis since 2020 and dozens of anons posting their toys.And i mean, after the launch hype, because even Hasbro's OVerwatch line managed to get a pretty big following for its first few months here on /toy/ and that line bombed pretty fast.
>>11928126Most have left do to VF shitposting. Activity here will never be a good barometer for the successfulness of a line. Perfect example would be Mattel’s kids line. It is selling like hotcakes but if you listen to retards here nobody is buying them.
>>11928131It's a pretty good barometer, especially with who it matters (us). Nobody gives a shit about kiddyshit lines.You can look at how "well" Mattel's DC lines sold, because they kept making them year after year and were in almsot every store (with tons of pegwarming and clearances). But suddenly, the next year the line's name changed. And then another year. And another. All while barely anyone ever talked about Mattel's DC lines. Finally someone other than MAttel broke the news that MAttel lost the license.No one ever announces that a line is doing poorly, but things like that are a big hint.>It is selling like hotcakes How do you know?Again, go see Hasbro's Overwatch release or Jazware's 6" Fortnite line and how massive they seemed at first. IT's hard for people like us to know how well a line is selling, especially initially. And again, we all saw how Mattel took all the poor sales for years, hoping shit would improve with the next movie or the next tv show or the movie after the next one. They never wanted to lose the license even at the end, despite WB stripping the license away from them due to poor sales, because the license was very important to their stock holders.
>>11928139Motu has considerable digital pegwarmers. (I don't really see it in stores) but they're still heavily promoting that. I guess maybe enough sells through that some stinkers are tolerated?
>>11928143so does GI Joe Classified, which is almost a Ross exclusive since 2021, given how nearly everything gets dumped at these surplus/discount stores.Personally, i think shit like that is only there to act as a placeholder, because of how hard it is to get retailers to pick up a toyline. So Hasbro and MAttel are probably paying for the peg space or giving really deep discounts so that when the next movie/cartoon/video game comes out, they don't have to negotiate to get picked up again.They just deal with really low sales or are happy to break even in the mean time.This also cockblocks other toy companies from releasing their own shit too. So it has an added benefit of not allowing competition to get their own toylines on shelves.
Unironically the McFarlane is better than the Mattel Hush figure despite the pinned joints.
>>11928139This dying board of less than 200 users is absolutely not a barometer for how good a line is doing. Half of those less than 200 users don't even buy the toys they incessantly whine about. >Again, go see Hasbro's Overwatch release or Jazware's 6" Fortnite line and how massive they seemed at first. IT's hard for people like us to know how well a line is selling, especially initially. Based on how quickly that first assortment sold out of say it was fairly popular, at least that first wave where people were trying out the line. I've never seen the next wave in store though. The hype for the new collector line is pretty high, even around here, despite the usual detractors.And this general is dead and essentially one guy talking to himself about Phantom Lady. Honestly, I've learned that most of the time, 4chan tends to be wrong about whatever they're kevetching about and, more often than not, taking the opposite stance that they usually hold tends to be correct. So if they say something sucks for X reason, it probably doesn't. Not sure why you're so insistent on the opinions of others incluencing you, think for yourself and form your own opinions. You don't need 4chan to do it for you.
>>11928147>so does GI Joe Classified, which is almost a Ross exclusive since 2021, given how nearly everything gets dumped at these surplus/discount stores.God, I wish Joes were Ross exclusive. Anything actually worth getting though never hits Ross though. Only the stinkers. Like every other toy line. >ersonally, i think shit like that is only there to act as a placeholder, because of how hard it is to get retailers to pick up a toyline. So Hasbro and MAttel are probably paying for the peg space or giving really deep discounts so that when the next movie/cartoon/video game comes out, they don't have to negotiate to get picked up again.>They just deal with really low sales or are happy to break even in the mean time.Those are some next level assumptions you're making there hoss. That doesn't even really make sense either considering store planograms are made months in advance.
>>11928151Thigh cuts instantly make the Mattel win since posability of most McFarlanes is destroyed due to a lack of that. There are a few McFarlanes that have them, proviing their necessity for poses like riding motorcycles
>>11928151The Mafex sculpt looks so soft. Really weak looking.
>>11927510>Is that an articulated Krypto?
>>11928042>>11928041>>11928039>>11928038so is this Batman out already?
I’m stoked. Stay mad faggot.
>>11928151don’t care, lpzz mogs both
>>11928178Mattel sent him to a couple of folks. He doesn't ship until April.
>>11928210He’ll ship before the end of the year.
>>11928210Why does that not violate the license?
>>11928212He'll ship at earliest Jan 1st because that's when Mattel's license for collector stuff starts. They literally can't ship any out to actual customers, there's even a good chance these reviewers have to send this sample back to Mattel once they're done with it.
>>11928224They're probably sample sets that need to be returned to Mattel or face legal consequences. That's happened in the past.
>>11928225Nope. It can and will ship before January 1st.
>>11928226Final production figures that now belong to the influencer.
>>11928230If you insist Timmy.>>11928232Or it could be possible that they're allowed to send them out because it's a special launch item that is technically already available for pre-order. Regardless you won't be seeing these until January.
>>11928233Okay dipshit
>>11928235Prove me wrong then
>>11928157McFarlane has thigh swivel hidden up near the joint. It just doesn’t have a visible cut.
>>11928207>>11928205learn how to take pictures. this shit is fucking awful
>>11928325Stupid faggot
>>11928323it’s a coincidence of the engineering and is barely functional on most of them. some not at all.
>>11928329It's not even like how some import companies like Mafex do have an extra hidden joint where the ball hip plugs in to. That provides more of a swivel than McFarts do.
>>11928323That swivel doesn't really work on most figures and we all know it. If they would sculpt around it properly it could be made to work but they don't 95% of the time. Cuts guarantee it works barring QC issues.
The hyper aggressive Mattel shilling is so boring and off-putting that it makes me not want their figures
>>11928418it works on the average person though so thats why they do it
>>11928418I feel the same way about Nacelle's Star Trek too but it's weird how that even gets spammed so much here.
>>11927187Justice League Unlimited is really exciting to me as a cartoonfag. The roster was huge so I wonder how obscure they're going to get. >>11927229Where were the listings posted? JLU Booster Gold would be awesome if it's true.
>batman general>dumb fucking retards here think it's JLU batmanIt's Caped Crusader Batman. The cartoon where Penguin is a woman or a tranny or something. You stupid fags don't know anything.
>>11927285I know for a fact he is seething so hard right now.
>>11928437My favourite part of Caped Crusader was when Green Lantern showed up in his gold suit with Wonder Woman and Deadshot.
>>11928437>dumb fucking retard thinks it caped crusader batman when clearly his gloves aren't that long in the fucking showDo you just type shit just to type shit?
>>11928440Technically in that case McFarlane's looks better, but it can't move and will look worse if it's taken out of the cape and put in the cloth that figure comes with. If you want poseability, Matt is better.
>>11928447Yeah, the person who bought that McFarlane cares about poseability. The McFarlane is the aesthetically superior version.
>>11928440Left appeals to autistic manchildren who don't appreciate art. Right appeals to autistic manchildren who want their special interests to look awesome.
>>11928131That's because there are only a few of us that actually buy toys here. Check your Walmarts, they are resetting the collector aisle and I know the Q-figs are coming. I saw the Beast Kingdom Blackest Night Batman and the Batman Returns Catwoman. As a former regular here, I'm the pallet guy who changed oil at Walmart, I just don't think there's any real reason to keep posting here. It's just become this never ending bitch fest about one guy, I mean every damn time I check the Gen it's just the same old shit. It's beyond boring to post here, it's just the same shit in a loop. You'd think with Mattel DC Gen might get an influx if fresh anons, excited for the figures and curious about DC comics in general but it seems unlikely. I do love you DC Gen, even Jarrett.
>>11927285Mad that public posts he made with his trip on are being reposted? Why would he care?
>>11928459I’m the Frankenstein kitbasher and I hate VF. I found a good discord to post in and that’s where I’m at 90 % of the time I want to talk DC toys. I’m lurking until an anon posts the first Mattel collector figure in their hands then I’m out. There’s no point being here while that tranny is a mod.
>>11928459To be fair you sperging out about my patio for like a year straight didn't really help things.
>>11928434Earlier this month.
>>11928480Awesome. I hope we get Vigilante and Shining Knight, and JLU Joker too
>>11928472you still bringing up patios when the rest of us are chillin on our pallets.
>>11928437
>>11928151they're all shite.
>>11928124>Tokenism runs rampant at large corporationsThat's true, but it counts for dick when it comes to toys. Rule of thumb is when it comes to action figures, girls and blacks don't sell. Sometimes you can get girls off the pegs if you're dealing with a big name like Wonder Woman, or the girl is associated with a big name like Batgirl/Supergirl. John Stewart makes sense because Green Lantern branding and he just got that new show, but Black Lighting is way more obscure. It took McFarlane three years to do a Black Lightning, and even then they only did the one.I'm just saying it's nice to see that Mattel are willing to go for lesser known character right out the gate.
>>11928480This isn't real though.
>>11928155>That doesn't even really make sense either considering store planograms are made months in advance.Of course it doesn't make sense, because what does "considering store planograms are made months in advance" even mean?You don't seem to understand how retail works. How do you think Toy Fair even works? Toy companies go there to advertise their wares, making deals, many many months before their products get to the shelves. So those toylines that get clearanced and dump at discounters act as placeholders [a] YEAR[S] ahead of time, to ensure nothing popular takes their place at major retailers.It prevents new products to show up, wholly or partially, and keeps Hasbro/Mattel's IP on shelves and on the forefront of people's attentions, so that they don't have to start all over again in raising a attention when they try to restart with a new movie/cartoon/vidya/etc.>>11928153>Based on how quickly that first assortment sold outHow do you know this? Do you work for NPD? At a distribution center? Work as a district manager who has access to numbers at a wide scale?Or are you just looking at some random store, who remembers how poorly Mattel's shit shelf warmed and ordered 5 of each figure, thus "sold out" at a microscale, not understanding distribution centers may have a billion of unsold stock that won't show up until 10 months from now? NAh, you're probably just a dumbshit who's just disagreeing just to shit up the place.Again, it's impossible for us to know how well something sells until the line actually bombs and/or starts showing up enmass at discounters and/or /toy/ forgetting the line exists 6 months after the intiial hype>And this general is dead and essentially one guy talking to himself about Phantom LadyWhy are you even here then? Sounds like you're just a troll who stalks that guy for owning more shit than you, because you're ignoring that there's more than that guy who takes pictures of his shit, who you probably also harass.
>>11928469>There’s no point being here while that tranny is a mod.I don't disagree with the sentiment, but the issue is that the whole thing becomes like White Flight, all the anons that made this place fun, or at least remember the before time, in the long, long ago, all leave because of tripfags, and trolls, and the faggot mods that protect them and so all that's left is a the few stubborn anons hoping that one day it will get good again.
>>11928670>all that's left is the few stubborn anons whining and bitching all day because they drove all the fun posters awayftfy
>>11928670>hoping that one day it will get good again.Spoiler alert: it won't
>>11928630That's a whole lot of words to not make an actual point with. All you're doing is boo hooing that someone disagreed with you without providing anything to actually back up your claim other than saying ""you think" or "you assume". All in broken English too. Not making the case that you're not an ESL any more convincing.
>>11928684>because they drove all the fun posters awayThat was the trolls though.
>>11928696>get asked questions that would inform everyone how you came up with your claims>can't even acknowledge anything like a 90s botYou're the retard from the GI Joe thread, huh?
>>11928447The articulation is literally the same.
>>11928710That was VF, yeah
>>11928493Glad to know that it stills bugs you.
>>11928437no its not you fucking CASUAL. look at his emblem
>>11927078huh, hes pretty coherent for a drugged up loser then i guess
>>11928758You know, that anon IS a fuckwit, BUT there are enough similarities with the figure, that if they changed the forearms to give the JLU Bats shorter gloves, changed the belt, and thickened the legs to get away from the classic 90s/00s Timm leg style, Mattel could turn it into a passable enough Caped Crusader Batman. Of course no-one would buy it because no-one liked Caped Crusader, but it could be done.
>>11928766No shit, Bruce Timm designed both versions so of course they're going to be similar. In fact, Ithink that was the point.
>>11928734No it isn't. Thigh cuts reign over all.
>>11928621It doesn't matter if it sells, the licensor will force the toy company to make it. We had whole ML waves go to Ollies because they were Shuri, Mbaku, etc
>>11928766The bulkier / rounder build of the figure honestly reminds more of this dude than anything
>>11928760You have to admit, he won DC General. It was cool seeing him go from a casual buyer to kitbasher to hoarder over the years to breaking free of the addiction and leaving with a solid collection. I'm still here having to read fags argue about Mattel's $100 little boy dolls. For me the ride never ends...
>>11928794What a stupid weapon. It's things like that figure that make me glad this foul industry is dying.
>>11928800>>11928799go back to summoning demons with your crackpipe jarry boy
>>11928799I've never understood the seething hatred some anons (likely just one fag) has for him
>>11928799>leaving with a solid collection.God, I wish he left. He keeps threatening to but never follows through, because he likes the attention he gets. I wouldn't care if he didn't get extremely butt blasted whenever I post my Mafex figs.
>>11928832It's actually insane
>>11928832Admittedly Mafex is pretty overrated and doesn't have an interesting enough selection. It's just the same dozen or so figures they keep reprinting.
>>11928870The increasing price is getting to be a bit much, especially with the lack of accessories from the past few releases. I was really feeling it was Ra's, would it have killed them to include a coat of some kind? Anyway at least stuff like Wonder Woman looks to be a bit more worthwhile price wise.
>>11928931None of them are worth it pricewise.
>>11928935To each their own, I find some of their releases to be quite worth it, and can't say I'm unhappy with my collection. I'm quite pleased with the Bat shelf I have between Batmen, allies and villians, and have been also building a smaller Superman shelf with the Reign of the Supermen figs, can't wait for Doomsday, he looks awesome.
>>11928743anon i aint your boogieman, you made me remember about the whole patio fiasco that I just had to say something and rile you up like you always get when someone mentions patios.
>>11928670I'm just a dc newfag waiting for Mattel to come out to post OC and hauls despite being the one to anger VF the most. I skipped McFarlane cause I got into DC way too late.
>>11928849>insane see >>11927078
>>11928992I'm in somewhat of the same boat anon. I skipped McFarts for a number of reasons including the scale not fitting in with the rest of my collection, me not liking Todd's particular house style, and just being frustrated by certain design decisions, so I too skipped them. Currently my DC collection is a mix of Mafex Bat stuff and Icons. They work well enough for now, but I can't wait to start adding in Mattel stuff. Out of everything leaked, I think I'm most anticipating that new Hal. It looked like exactly what I want in a Hal Jordan figure. For $28 figures, they look pretty good, and I'm interested to see more of the Ultimates. A little disappointed with the Killing Joke Batman using the shitty recolor suit colors though.
>>11928800>opinions like this are what are killing this industryIf you don't like toys, why are you posting here?
>>11929119it's autism.someone likes something he doesn't, so the entire industry deserves to burn down.
>>11929227That seems like more that Murray deserves.
>>11929227https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxGvRxYMQHU
>>11929227This is just, this is just silly. Ridiculous even. Tomfoolery, one might say!
>>11929327It's just necrobumping for attention now
>>11929119Ah bloo bloo
why are toy reviewers such sellouts?also is this $100 travesty the only way to get their hush batman? did they say anything about a single release?
>>11929422What are you expecting from a review? If people are positive about things and about what they've seen, surely that doesn't automatically make them sellouts. I've only seen a couple looks at it and it seems that most recognize the limitations, but also seem to acknowledge that from what they've seen and were told, that Mattel is already improving things for upcoming figures. Anyway, from the leaks we've seen, we've not seen anything of a Hush Batman painted in this way in other releases. But I don't think you should be particularly worried about a pretty generic Batman design, it'll show up again at some point in some form or another.
>>11929422They haven't said outright, but they implied that you shouldn't rush out to get the Hush set if you don't want the diorama. Many are interpreting that as they're doing a standalone Hush figure and that makes sense, I don't see why they wouldn't.
>>11929424If you get free shit, are you going to be positive about it? Yes, because it didn't cost you anything!
>>11929486so if i handed you my shit for free, you'd be happy?
The new Raven somehow feels a lot more satisfying than the first one, despite the fact it's mostly the same mold. I guess sex appeal of just a bit more skin really does just sell it, but also the purple flames hide the hand pegs better and the face looks a lot better because it's heavily obscured.
>>11929490cool opinion
>>11928224Mattel can ship them as samples to people since they aren't receiving payment for them. They just can't ship paid for product to the pubic before the Jan 1 date. That's pretty standard with these types of licensing deals.
>>11929425Wasn't this same Hush Batman just seen as an Ultimate release with alternate hands/heads just a few days ago? This $100 price tag is only for people who want the base, bat signal and box.
So I got my first Premier figure, saw Batman and Robin and grabbed Batman for fun. They are a solid bit of fun, definitely cheap. If I could alternate them a bit, replace the waist cut with a ball and socket, and remove the boot swivel (if we need to retain the number of PoA) and give them ankles, even just the old DCUC style disc ankle joint. I'll probably grab Superman if I see him, maybe others if I ever see them at a nice discount. GL would be a good one for the constructs.
Will you buy the Last Batgirl?
>>11929573Hell yeah. Those Aerosmith videos were a revelation to a young anon.
I'm sure the figure is pretty decent, but everyone they've sent the Hush Batman to really can't pose for shit and just makes the figrue look worse than it probably is.>>11929546Yep they're pretty solid for cheapo figures. I got a few and I'd love to see Mattel put out Batcave playset to go with them.
>>11929490They did sculpt her some new thighs (and shoulders?) so that really helps. It's one of the last McFarlane figures I'm happy to get as I'm waiting for Mattel's stuff.
They seem to have botched Arisia and Star Sapphire which I guess is par for the course on McFarlane females, despite the exceptions like that 2nd Raven. Star Sapphire's design just doesn't work with the McFarlane articulation style so the painted on look for her suit looks cheap, headsculpt looks bored. Arisia, same for her chest, headsculpt is hard to see well in the in hand pics but doesn't look too great.
>>11929852We didn't ask.
>>11929860They seem to have done a fine job on the Absolute figures which is no surprise since they were forced to make entirely new sculpts for them. Absolute Batman looks especially huge and bulky and WW and Supes look like they stepped right out of the comic.
>>11929862Oh okay. Didn't ask about that either.
>>11929863As for the rest of the in-hand pics, the Soranik Natu figure seems to have a headsculpt that is fit for a Seven of Nine custom once repainted for some reason. The body used is rather boring though. Mary Shazam looks comically huge at the hips so I don't think it's buyable. Although the face looks nice. So many mixed bag figures at McFarlane Toys.Val Zod is on the best Superman body McFarlane ever did so that's good for Val Zod fans I guess. The Elite Clark Kent looks totally not worth the price.And that appears to be the end of the line for the DC Multiverse line. It went out as it came in, flaws and all. Sometimes beautiful, sometimes deeply flawed. Some high highs and the deepest lows. Wasn't DC Multiverse a lot like...life?
>>11929888Why aren't you posting about Mattel? Some say new Batman good, some say new Batman bad. I don't know.
>>11929902There will be plenty of time to talk about Mattel as it is ahead of us. I chose now to reflect on what has come before.
>>11929915Well I only want to talk about Mattel. Mattel say buy $100 Batman but also say there will be other Batmans to buy.
>>11929940No one should spend $100 for a domestic designed Batman.
Everyone bought the Batgirl. The Batman and Penguin languish. I sometimes wonder if Todd has ever looked at his numbers and realized he was wrong about female figures not selling--that his statement is conditional upon the line being a kids line, not an adult collector line, and the audience of DCMV was an adult collector audience.
>>11929965yeah no shit we've been saying that for years but retards immediately bark back 'GIRLS DON'T SELL JUST KEEP MAKING BATMAN'
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>>11929999fake>>11930001gay
>>11930005Mattel's will be better. I saw it at the secret NYCC booth.
He's just regurgitating his facebook feed now.
>>11930009Who? I'm posing new toys. Is that not the point of the whole board?
>>11930010You're flooding the thread with AI slop.
>>11930013Todd's finally making the little dolls he always disliked.
>>11930022Mattels will be gooder
>>11930026I'm not sure Mattel would risk that much cloth goods for a whole coat. It really makes the figure look awkward and like a doll. Wired capes are the best use of cloth goods in figures. There's a few other acceptable uses but tiny clothing should be avoided.
>>11930030Mattels soft goods look good.
Holy shit stop talking to yourself.
this batman is tall
>>11930048IMO he's too tall unless that Mafex is considered a younger Peter Parker because that Peter is extremely slender and small compared to the MASSIVE Batman. It isn't just height, look at the biceps and legs.
>>11930048>>11930058Why the fuck wouldn't it be taller than Mafex stuff? This is the 6.5" Superhero 1/12 scale that Marvel Legends uses. Nobody was going to be using the DC 6.5" stuff with Mafex figs. Just like Marvel Legends all look too big next to Mafex figs.
>>11930063I mix and match Mafex stuff with Legends. Honestly it's close enough that it doesn't bother me and will only bother the most autistic of scale artists.
>>11930064didn't ask
>>11930066Don't care. Deal with it bitch
>>11930048big matt tall matt good batman
>>11930048Looks good to me
>>11930048Two thirds of this picture aren't DC. Take it somewhere else.
>>11930075That isn't official art. I don't even know where to send crude scribbles like that.
>>11927191Is every Batman in the collector line from Mattel gonna have a large soft goods cape? Because they might be relevant to my interests.
>>11930082or maybe you can just look at a height chart and come to your own conclusions. BTW its pretty acc if spidey is 5'10 and bats is 6'2
Toys.
>>11930063>6.5" 1/12>6.5">1/12please stop conflating these two terms like a retard and learn how to divide by 12. both mafex and mattel are over 1/12 so their height is somewhat accurate here at least unless retards actually think spiderman is as tall as batman. the blokees spiderman is actually 1/12 to the game so he scales better with blokees batman which is also now explicitly marketed as 1/12, or any figure from companies that actually respect scale
>>11930201Mattel is literally advertising them as 1/12 scale and cals them 6.5" tall, don't they? Could have sworn I saw that between the graphics on display at NYCC and what they were saying when introducing the stuff to the crowd
>>11929703if you've seen multiple people play with the toy and it looks bad in every instance... it's probably becAuse the toy is bad.
>>11930086this... but what height is that spiderman?Also, the people talking about Marvel being 6.5 scale don't own any toys or know anything about Marvel, because Hasbro still tries to make their toys 1:12 scale. The scale issue only happens when they use Captain America and Thor bodies on 6" and under characters.Too much reuse.As for Mattel, their shit was never 1:12. Who knows about the upcoming line, but there's a reason why most people ignored their lines from 2007 til 2019. Almost no cross over buyers, becasue shit was too oversized. In scale with nothing.
>>11930253>the people talking about Marvel being 6.5 scale don't own any toys or know anything about Marvel, because Hasbro still tries to make their toys 1:12 scaleML has been notoriously creeping up in size though, and a lot of modern comic MLs do scale around 6.5 inches than true 1/12 scale as with their Star Wars BS and GI Joe Classified line. Also using the old Bucky Cap body mold as a point of comparison is a moot point when a lot of modern MLs scale slightly larger than the proportions seen on that body mold.
>>11930232then they would be lying, wouldn't they? if the box doesn't say 1/12, then it's not 1/12. it would be non-scale. these companies aren't retarded enough to put themselves in frivolous lawsuits over false marketing. if you have a functioning brain, you can verify it yourself by measuring the figures and doing the math. none of these companies actually have the balls to do actual 1/12 figures. even jap ones. only some chinese brands do it and even Inart was caught lying
>>11930253>because Hasbro still tries to make their toys 1:12 scalelol no they don't. spiderman is 5'10 or 178cm. in 1/12 that translates to 14.83cm or 5.84 inches tall. he doesnt even hit 6 inches. none of the spidermen in this photo are 1/12
>>11930272Holy shit you are so fucking autistic. Not LITERALLY 1/12 down to the millimeter. It's a general 1/12 scale all these companies use. Hasbro has been using the closer to accurate scale for Star Wars and some MCU figures, then the more exaggerated scale that has most males creeping up to 6.5" tall for the superhero comic Marvel Legends scale. That superhero scale that's a little larger than 1/12 but not quite something like 1/14 is what Mattel is doing.
>>11930270Like i said, they reuse too much shit, but it certainly isn't 6.5" or 1:11 scale.>>11930274so what's the height on those spidermans?And i think being exactly 5.84" would be extremely anal, since 100.6% of lines that say that they're whatever scale are ever that accurate. So as long as they're around a forehead of a difference off, i think that's accurate enough. So the two on the left would be okay, despite their difference and the two on the right being the same character is ok despite the height difference. Left pair and right pair are bsically two different characters though, bsed on height.I think when they're THIS (pic) much off that i think it matters. Flash here is not only just taller, but his girth is also too thick. The scAle is noticeably off.And Mattel's Hush Batman looks to be another scale just like pic. Will the rest of the line be too?
>>11930247Oh yeah?
>>11930312I wish people would just take time to learn anatomy, I mean we all have bodies, don't we? I see this pose done way too often and no one seems to bat an eye.
>>11930286>i want 1/12 but i dont want to use the fucking scale that is 1/12retard>down to the millimetermattel is off by 1 entire centimeter you faggot retard which in 1/1 scale is like batman wearing 4-inch fucking platforms. >>11930289they arent the correct height thats for sure. these range from 6 inch to 6.5inch. if there is any company that is doing 1/12 scale, hasbro ISNT one of them>being exactly 5.84" would be extremely analthen dont call 1/12 retard call it 6 inch like it is. i dont understand why you faggots are insecure with non-scale figures not being 1/12 to the point that you HAVE to pretend they are 1/12 when they fucking arent. calling 6inch like it actually is would be infinitely more convenient because thats what non-scale figures usually go for
>>11930323are you a third worlder who doesn't know what an inch is? Half an inch is about a head taller.You have no idea what these toys are even like, cAuse you can't afford them, huh?>then dont call 1/12 retard call it 6 inch like it is!!!!!!!so a third worlder AND also autistic? Sheeeit. no wonder you're so hostile.You can't expect toy companies to make something perfectly in scale, because even models generally aren't perfectly in scale either.So the rest of us only have problems when there's a difference where it doesn't even make sense for a toy to be this (pic) huge when compared to 1:12.Flash barely looks human when standing next to a normal proportioned human.
>>11930323>dumb foreigner doesn't know matt is always right
>>11930332>i can't do math and therefore you are a thirdyof course, a mutt is bad at math. I don't know why you think you matter when you can't do something as basic as dividing and multiplying by 12. you must never breed. please do not add more mutts into this world. >You can't expect toy companies to make something perfectly in scalesurely this is why spiderman and batman magically inches to their canon heights. holy kek a mutt and a bootlicker. what a diseased combo
>>11930372>third worlder who doesn't own toys wants to pretend he's smart because he can do divisionSo you have no idea how big an inch is, because you're a dirty foreigner.You don't know how big any of the figures that were posted, because you can't afford them like a third worlder.And you think toys can only be considered part of a scale, if they're perfectly accurate, when 100.99% of toy companies and most model companies can't/don't/won't? I'd tell you to get meds so you don't continue sperging out on /toy/, but you can't afford that either.I mean, by your own autistic standards, you can't call them 6" nor 6.5" scale either, because height varies as much as it does from 1:12 scale.Since you're a third worlder who's a newfag to this hobby, you don't understand that first worlders in the US understand "scale" to be an estimate to where a toyline would actually fit in. This how this rule has worked since the 80s and probably before i was born. This is why the old 3.75" Star Wars figures have been conjsidered 1:18 scale, along with the modern 1:18 Star Wars figures that are larger than the 3.75" line.In short, you're a retarded Rashid who latched onto the definition of scale because you're a poorfag who can't afford the toys you're trying to talk about and just want something to argue anything because you're lonely and unimportant.pic of how many different scale companies make models that are way more out of scale than Hasbro's children toys are. It's autism to expect exactness from a toy (and model)
>>11930398That is some fuckin projection right fucking here. This thread needs to be abandoned. Here, if VF won't make one, I guess I will.>>11930418>>11930418>>11930418
>>11930398>dirty mutt still thinks theres a conversion "problem"let me remind you what YOU said>i think being exactly 5.84" would be extremely analbut here you are posting the differences between representations of how each brand deals with a gun model, ignoring the fact that point being argued was merely scale, not 100% accuracy. keep up faggot>you can't call them 6" nor 6.5"if its 6 inches call it 6 inches if its 6.5 inches call it 6.5 inches. how retarded are you lmao. they are called this because the base bodies they used is 6 inches (or 6.5). is this hard for you Jose? if youre really insecure about it, sure, call them 1/12. you probably think it's more sophisticated right?
>>11930425>if its 6 inches call it 6 inches if its 6.5 inches call it 6.5 inchesbut it's neither, rashid. That's part of my point, because you're obsessed over the scale being exact, when nearly every single line has been a estimation that just fits into 1:12 scale.Again, if you weren't a thirld worlder and owned any of these figures, you'd understand that. If you by some miracle you own something, put a ruler next to 8 figures and notice some will even be under 6". And sometimes a figure will measure out how hes supposed to, or close enough.Again, even scale models do the same shit. Exactness is exceedingly rare, but you wouldn't know this, because you're just a third worlder who doesn't own toys nor models and thinks scale lines are ever exact.you have no argument but ignorant misconceptions, hence me knowing you're a dirty third worlder.
>>11930332Body builders barely look human standing next to normal humans though. Super heroes have heroic proportions, which makes them look huge and muscular.
>>11930451see >>11930289 to see how Flash dwarves another superhero who has that stylized body-type you see in comics.Flash himself shouldn't be body builder HUEG, because he's just some scientist guy who got his speed powers by an accident. The problem with Flash is that he's using a Superman body, which is still HUEG when compared to DC/Marvel/Mafex/etc sculptors, because that's just 4H's style.So because of 4H (a studio of sculptors) the entire DC line didn't fit in with a ton of other superhero toylines, especially because the body reuse was ridiculous.That reuse is why so many people shit on Mattel, so that's a big fear when it comes to their upcoming DC line, because will they continue misappropiate body reuse in ways that McFarlane and Marvel have never approached? Given their current lines, it's a probably.
>>11930478McFarlane got pretty egregious on reuse in the last 2 years. No idea how bad Matt will be as the line goes on though.
>>11930485McFarlane was slightly better than Hasbro, which isn't saying much, but Mattel is the King Cheapo of body reuse.As far as I've noticed, there's a ton of reuse in their current HeMan and wrestling lines. ib4>that's how he-man is supposed to be!blehGranted, maybe the movie line was better, but i barely paid attention to it.
>>11930488You really need to not base your opinion on decades old figures that have really no relevance anymore. If the company is still this bad, you should at least post more recent examples, it would help your argument. Even if you're right, I'm less inclined to believe you because of your decades old example.
>>11930488We all know how bad Mattel was. It's just a question of how the DC line will be going forward. It's possible it'll be just as bad just with newer bucks, but it'll take some waves to see. The start will always be them trying to lure people in and put their best foot forward. But over time we'll see.
>>11930443>oh,but this non-scale flash isn't exactly 6 inches therefore it's more logical to call it 1/12 despite knowing it's off scaledoes it physically hurt your brain to think?
>>11930491like i said, their current HeMan and wrestling lines continue the tradition of King Cheapo, but I'm not looking at it very closely to see if it's as mismanaged like before.>>>11930502 It's just a question of how the DC line will be going forward.yepDid they learn their lesson when the license was stripped away from them? I think it'll take almost two years for it to be clear on whether or not they do. ... if they're like Hasbro or McFarlane. If they continue being King Cheapo, it'll take less than a year.>>11930503>low effort Rashid who can't answer anything and just points elsewhere to arguepost at least 5 MLs and a measuring tape touching all the top of their heads on it to prove you're not a third worlderBy posting that, you'll also be proven wrong about why it's not 6" or 6.5"
>>11930510>like i said, their current HeMan and wrestling lines continue the tradition of King Cheapo, but I'm not looking at it very closely to see if it's as mismanaged like before.Perhaps you should as to further your argument because as is, I don't believe you. Your decades old info may have been right once, but who knows if it is now?
>>11930510>post 5 MLs>in DC threadoh mutty browny
>>11930515go to any Target or Walmart and you can see it for yourself.I'd love to buy the HeMan shit, but everytime i see how samefag their bodies look, i can't give them any of my money for being that cheap.Even when I see their shit at Ross, where i know that they've taken a loss, i can't pull the trigger.One of the few Mattel things I've bought are the Jurassic Park stuff, because not only did they produce a rare military vehicle that's in 1:18, but it's actually wholly brand new molded stuff. So i paid up... and bought a couple more once they went to Ross. Mattel can be good when they try.>>>11930530 so lonelyyou're the one who made the claim to know all about the figures being posted, but i know you can't prove shit, because you're just a dirty third worlder who doesn't own anything
>>11930537That's not the point bud. My point is that if you're going to make a claim, use more relevant examples instead of decades old ones. Sorry that it rustled your jimmies, but I'm just trying to help you convey your point a bit better. Stop being so overly hostile.
>>11930542but i did use current examples: he man and wrestling shitSorry if you don't like to read.
>>11930550Did you post some actual examples or is this just conjecture? Just because you say something doesn't make it true. Post some examples perhaps? Like pictured examples.
>>11930552>Just because you say something doesn't make it trueThe sun rose today. The sky is blue. I've seen Mattel's HeMan and wrestling lines in stores and it's full of samefag bodies.Shit like that is self evident and you only need to go outside to realize it. And i won't post any examples, because i have no idea what they're even called. There's been a billion HeMan and wrestling dudes released since 1984. Since i don't know the specific names for subline #324 for 2026 (possibly 2025/2024 for the Ross stuff), I'll get a literal million results and I'm not going to bother researching that shit when i don't even bother to buy them after a little scrutiny. And expecting me to come up with comparisons is inane, especially since shit like I've posted is actually rare to find today. Shit that i actually care a lot about, because fanboys like to research shit that they love.Maybe it's common to find comparisons in videos, but fuck if im going to scrub through a dozen videos just to prove to someone who doesn't go outside that rain is wet. How wet is it? Well, that's the only question when it comes to Mattel learning their lesson after being desperate for boys licenses when their stock dropped.pic is one of the very few images I've saved of HeMan toys, not even meant for comparison sake, yet it shows exactly what i've been talking about. It's like throwing a dart into the air and winning something just for hitting the floor. bounces count.
>>11930628NTA but why are people upset about Mattel using the same buck for multiple characters? It makes sense for comic characters and it keeps cost down. Just come up with a variety of Bucks, buff male, skinny male, suit, voluptuous female, slim female, kid male, kid female. With that, some clever part-swapping and overlays you can cover basically every superhero. Which frees up budget for doing fancier specialised figures.
>>119306351. People are upset because it looks cheap.2. [...] the body doesn't fit the character (see the flash comparison image)3. [...] scale creep happens4. [...]the character looks worse because the pieces don't always fit together.-4a: head is too small/big-4b: arms/legs/torso/etc have gaps-4c: legs/arms/torso/etc are too long-4d: .... do you get the point? I can go on for literal pages on why reuse is hated.And if enough new bucks are made, the more likely an old hated buck is retired.But since Mattel reused shit so often, we rarely had DC threads when the yhad the licese. More DC threads were made in each year of McFarlane/Spinmaster having the license than were made in 5 years of Mattel's reign. That's how much people hated/didn'tgive a fuck when Mattel was in charge.>Which frees up budget for doing fancier specialised figures.Or you know, don't be a cheapass and the price you're already paying covers that fancier specialized figure like many lines already do.Mattel is bottom of the barrel when it comes to doing fancier specialized figures too, because Hasbro, Jazwares, McFarlane, and many more spend more on their figures at all times AND also do that fancier figure more often.pic is something only oldfags would get
>>11930635>Which frees up budget for doing fancier specialised figures.Problem is, because these are corporations, that won't occur. Instead they'll just keep reusing the same 6 bodies for everything to max profits.
>>11930642Okay, but literally all of those same issues have happened with Hasbro in the time that they've had the Marvel Legends license. In fact things like scale creep became a serious problem with the MCU figures a few years back when the new Caps and Thors were standing a full head taller than the earlier figures. And it's only more recent that they've been putting more effort into making new bodies, and that too is causing scaling issues because they keep making newer figures which while definitely nicer, end up making older figures look like shit and fucking up your display, case and point Hulk and Abomination, they keep putting out a Hulk, then an abomination, then a bigger Hulk, and if you get it you need to get a new Abomination. Look at the MvC Juggernaut they just put out, that thing is fucking huge, and you know they're gonna put out a Hulk that big soon as well. But the price increases are not reflective of the figure, that new Doc Samson is a lot of re-use from Luke Cage, it only comes with an alternate head and hands, and fuck all paint, but it costs almost as much as the Professor Hulk.All that said, I don't give a shit about re-use so long as the figures look good, I never bothered with Mattel's DC Classics because I didn't like the sculpt, but toy sculpting has come a long way since then and the new Mattel Premier Superman shits all over the old DC Classics.
>>11930628I'm not even saying you're wrong, just that you do a shit job at backing up your claims. I guess a five year old image is better than a 10+ year old one, but again, it would really help your cause more if you did a little googling and came up with examples from more recent. Again, not even saying you're wrong, I'm trying to help you.
>>11930659>same issuessame issues, but a lot less often because they use way more bodies, hence the Marvel Legend General being a mainstay and one of the most popular Generals on /toy/. Marvel toys in general are popular at retail, and it isn't just because of the movies, because literal whos from the comics are made all the time and the line remains popular year round because of that.Whereas DC... well, who gave a shit about these horrible toys. There's a reason there were more DC threads in 2019 than in 3 years before it and that was mostly to spit on Mattel and hype up the upcoming figures from Mcfarlane and spinmasterAnd jus so you know, Hasbro's ML line suffered in sales when they took over for Toy Biz, because they lowered teh budget and sales crashed hard enough for them to actually cancel the ML line. Hasbro eventually learned that they needed to do better.> toy sculpting has come a long way since thenIn what way? the only thing that's really improved is that it's a bit faster and they can see how pieces fit together before approving the molds in China.
>>11930679You're not going to convince me that Marvel toys are somehow innately more popular than DC ones. It's that the DC product put out has been deeply flawed for a long time, with Mattel and then McFarlane. Hasbro's MLs are flawed, but not to the extent that Mattel's old DCMV was that just looked like cheap throwaway garbage or that McFarlane is with the weird scale, sometimes totally screwed up articulation where the figure can't even crunch forward or can't move its ankles due to a hard overlay covering the joint or characters just looking plain unappealing.
>>11930676I would have to think he's thinking of Origins and WWE Superstars or Masters of the WWE Universe. In terms of the collector lines, there was zero re-use between Masterverse, and now Chronicles, and any of the WWE Elite/Ultimate figures.
>>11930693He's almost certainly thinking of Masterverse (which is supposedly a collector line) and there is a good deal of reuse in Masterverse. They also swapped away from a female buck that used double jointed elbows to single jointed. It has not even 90 degree range which is going backwards. Here's an example of arm and leg reuse.
>>11930692>You're not going to convince me that Marvel toys are somehow innately more popular than DC ones.i literally said the opposite, hence saying literal whos from the comics selling better than MAttel's crummy shit, despite MAttel's crummy shit being based on more popular characters.Kids are smart enough to know how bad something like this is, especially when you have other figures that are better made hangng two pegs away.I mean, there's a reason why McFarlane's DC line sold so well, despite being exactly the same characters.
>>11930679>In what way?I should probably have said engineering, rather than specifically sculpt, because sculpting and articulation are constant balancing act. Toy Biz Marvel Legends had a lot of detail, but fucking horrendous looking articulation, digital sculpting allows for far more seemless integration of articulation, it also lets digital scanning do a better job of translating things like actor likenesses into figure form. There is a trade-off, the style de jour is realism, compared to the early 00s where massive amounts of detail and stylisation were preferred, which I do miss to an extent, but the consistency of style makes for easier presentation on the shelf.Consider these two Superman figures, 2003 on the left 2026 on the right. Both standard retail figures aimed at kids, left would have been sculpted with a physical medium like clay or wax, then the articulation added after, every joint with the exception of the shoulders is a hinge or swivel, and it can barely move, the elbows bend to maybe 30 degrees, they also move different amounts because the sculpt is not symmetrical. I still like it, it's a gorgeous figure, but the new Mattel one destroys it in almost every regard, better proportions, better articulation, it's just a better toy.
>>11930699>digital sculpting allows for far more seemless integration of articulationWhy are we seeing so much more of this lately though from even Hasbro? McFarlane has been doing it for years but now even MLs are getting poorly done joints where they just cut the sculpt and don't attempt to make it look natural at all.
>>11930699>2003 on the left 2026both look like shit compared to other figures of the time though.In fact, that 2026 figure looks worse than 2001 figures from Toy Biz.Seriously, do you know how bad it was to see so many DC toys out there and not buying shit becasue the ylooked like shit? It's like watching your high school sweetheart making out with the janitor and then pooping out ugly bAbies every year.And engineering really hasn't improved either since 2003... well, except for Mattel, because Mattel continues being outmodded like a 210lb 60 year old janitor who hates the internet and still uses landline instead of owning cellular phone of any sort.
>>11930695Oh, I took it to mean reuse between the two lines, given that there was a pic of He-Man and DKR Bats.
>>11930708Because the joints are supposed to look best when the figure is standing straight. Not saying that the straight cut isn't kinda ugly, but it's really only noticeable on larger figures, and it provides the greatest range of motion.The other issue you face is if you don't have some flat areas in a joint, then it will let you over-extend the joint in directions you don't want it to which will eventually destroy the figure.
>>11930717Except joints have been done better on big, older figures.
>>11930727they also did proper thigh swivels like modern imports today but they got lazy is the answer.
>>11930537>you're the one who made the claim to know all about the figures being postedyou are having such a huge melty lmao. you were the one crying that your decade old flash figure is off scale, but you insist on calling it 1/12 because you're a retard and somehow don't see the error of your own contradiction. mutty melty mutty melty
>>11930712that was only to demonstrate that Mattel is so cheap, they even cross over their bucks with another license.>>11930717The knee sculpt and joint was alredy solved decades ago. Even Japanese lines get into that fuckery though, so to me, it just looks like a website that needs to constantly update and start using 1gb of RAM, despite it acting exactly how the website did 20 years ago when it used only 2mb of RAM. They change shit just to ensure that their job persists>>11930843>change the long established term to my way or no you!So i take it this is your way of saying you're declining a picture of toys that you don't own because you're just an autistic third worlder who doesn't even know hwo big an inch is.Since I'm not a third worlder and live in the US, do they even have measuring tapes with printed INCH mesurements in your shitty country? In the US, CM and sometimes MM are usually printed along with the standard INCHes.
>>11930903>ive been using the term wrong like a retard for too long and it's too late for me to change now therefore you are a thirdylol
