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First for Kapteyn Academy updates.
This is now a Hunchback thread!
>>98882925In my heart it’s always a hunchback thread
Fourth for Butte Hold
Born to PilotSphere is a fuck鬼神 Kill Em All 3050I am Merc man 410,757,864,530 dead clanners
I don't see it talked about much, but what about mercenary squadrons of aerospace fighters? Instead of just hiring a couple of random pilots at the bar nearest your mech hiring hall, a full on squadron of mercs with their own CV that will accompany your mech unit on its planetary assault, and then fuck off once you no longer require/can afford air cover?
>>98882925Uncomfortable Truth: Saint 4G is a saint because he was martyred trying to get into AC range with shit armor. He dead.
>>98883083They do exist but you're talking something that is deliberately forgotten about by the writers.
>>98883098Yeah but if the Maid of Orleans was to pilot a mech I bet it would be a Hunchback!
>>98883098The Swayback reigns supreme.
>>98883098The 4G has the same or better armor than many contemporary heavy mechs
Bombast lasers
>>98883132Well, OK, you're right, but it's also got the movement profile of those heavy mechs while needing to be uncomfortably close to do the one thing it's made to do, which is why it's usually a race to do that one thing at least once before it eats shit and dies.
>>98883083They exist, but they get ignored because no one plays AeroTech due to the rules needing some significant adjustments that they just never got. Same sorta deal as infantry.
Rough work-in-progress version of the Namek Record Sheet and a blank version of it to attach to the roll charts for the future. Very much eyeballed at the current moment, as I think I need to rescale some stuff in the General information tab, and some of the lines may be a bit thin on writing room. But I'm probably missing some stuff, so any other thoughts?Also so we can roll some stuff, lets get some details on what the leader's like if they ever ended up being deployed.Experience Rating (1d20)(BM = Battlemech, AS = Aerospace)>1: Green BM, Green AS>2: Regular BM, Green AS>3: Green BM, Regular AS>4-5: Regular BM, Regular AS>6: Veteran BM, Green AS>7-8: Veteran BM, Regular AS>9: Green BM, Veteran AS>10-11: Regular BM, Veteran AS>12-13: Veteran BM, Veteran AS>14: Elite BM, Green AS>15: Elite BM, Regular AS>16: Elite BM, Veteran AS>17: Green BM, Elite AS>18: Regular BM, Elite AS>19: Veteran BM, Elite AS>20: Elite BM, Elite ASAfter the above is rolled, roll 1d6 for each of the four Piloting and Gunnery skills (different people each roll) on whichever of the following charts is relevant.Green>1: Skill Rating of 7>2-3: SR of 6>4-5: SR 5>6: SR 4Regular>1-2: SR 5>3-4: SR 4>5-6: SR 3Veteran>1-2: SR 4>3-4: SR 3>5-6: SR 2Elite>1-2: SR 3>3-4: SR 2>5-6: SR 1
Rolled 1 (1d20)>>98883340With this roll I nominate the title Guru for our leader.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>98883368>Nail!>My Valasekian bulk is blocking the controls again!
>>98882912Well if it means that much to you sure. I'll hit you with some stats.>At least 1 Mechwarrior has failed their Fog sensor check every turn.>The most number of Mechwarriors that failed their fog sensor check in a single turn, was 4.>Only a single Mechwarrior has not failed a fog sensor check at some point.>No Mechwarrior has gotten 3 fails on the fog sensor check yet.>Turn 7 has concluded.>A total of 42 damage was dealt on turn 7.>This is down from the 155 damage that was dealt on turn 6.>Over 100 tons of mech are no longer participating in the battle.>Both sides have lost at least 1 mech at this point.
>>98883368
>>98883098Oh, I thought that was a unique failing of the hunchback IIC.> medium mech> that moves like an assault mech > armored like a light mech>has weapons that have a point blank range > but for 25 seconds, hits like an Old Testament God.> is almost useless afterwards.
>>98883450>You know, Ricorda, your father was a brilliant politician, but a terrible MechWarrior.
>>98883368So...are we looking at the original founding leader getting so old his skills have degraded, the succession just happened and there's a young ruler in charge, the other guys wanted go out to fight rather than wrangle paperwork and put the logistics person in charge, or have they really committed to the Namek larp and made a non-combat "Dragon Clan" equivalent for the leaders while the military is treated as the "Warrior Clan"?
>>98883114Wrong. Hunchback orthodoxy remains uber alles. In the era of ilClan any merc worth their hunchback addiction sold their mech and all the salvage they ever got to buy the production model C's from seafoxes. 6/9 cuac20 carrier. Fucking NOICE.
Do you think the Clans had a moral superiority to House Kurita?
>>98883434I feel like my mech was blasted into next week but so was the Charger
>>98883546Lmao! No, the clanners shouldn't care about that stuff.
>>98883518The IIC is garbage.Doesn’t matter how destructive those primary weapons are if it can’t survive long enough to use them.
>>98883565He said C, not IIC. The C was some solahma's modifications of a regular Hunchback.
>>98883200I was thinking about it because I've been playing with the aero bsp rules in the new core book, and last thread people were talking about merc dropships. I got a whole squadron of aero and have decided to paint them in their own merc scheme so they can support any of my other collections. And now I want a map scale Leopard CV...
>>98883577Ah, my mistake
>>98883200Aerotech in space is fine (you just need a very large playing area for even a small game), it's when you get into atmosphere that there's problems. And even then, it's really only problem (singluar). Lawndarting is a rule for honkmaxxed clowns. The fact that a single hit can send you from halfway to space into the dirt is ridiculous.
>>98883546Technically the clans are a totalitarian meritocracy with fascist tendencies, and the Combine is a fascist monarchy with totalitarian tendencies, and both are culturally steeped in a flanderized version of a chosen set of historical aesthetics. The Combine's lifestyle is honestly kind of clan like when you dig into how their class system works for anybody who isn't blood related the Kurita dynasty.I'm going to call it a wash.
>>98883200> Same sorta deal as infantry.I don’t know what you are talking about. At least in Total War, they work just fine.
>>98882925
>>98883546>Do you think the totalitarian warrior society had a moral superiority to totalitarian warrior society?Ain't no way, yujin.
>>98883628> the clans are a totalitarian meritocracy with fascist tendenciesEhh… I’d say the clans are a bunch of biker gangs with delusions of grandeur who traded their motorcycles in for giant robots.The Combine is Imperial Japan with an anime filter, so I’d concede that your description of them is fair.
>>98882323Which is to say it is more accurate to what happens in the novelizations. Excessive at 0 and 1 though, 2's a good spot.>but what about evasive lightsYeah well whenever a leader character chooses to ride a light mech at least one other will look at them funny and wonder if they're suicidal.
Rolled 4 (1d6)>>98883340>>98883368>>98883403Uh... guess I'll do the second d6?
>>98883107Women can't be Mechwarriors. They don't have enough physical fitness. You'll never see a women able to beat a man in a fight, regardless of circumstances. Mechs are no different.
>>98883546>Do you think the Clans had a moral superiority to House Kurita?EVERYONE has moral superiority to authoritarian fascist governments. They are the lowest of the low.
>>98883546The clans are the most evil and cruel governments, and needlessly so, ever devised by humans in battletech, they don't even have moral superiority over the capellans and their servitor system.I'm surprised warriors even get enough political schooling to be taught and misapply the term "fascist".
>>98883083They exist, and IIRC there's even a canon space-based merc company.
Is the makeup of the lance and star packs good for tabletop use as they come? As in, I can buy any force pack and it’ll be decent enough to play a game with without swapping out mechs.
>>98883628>fascist>monarchyMutually exclusive.
>>98883813There's some packs with Mechs that are lean on variants, but anything from TR3025 is going to have more than enough for you to build around. If you want to be sure you can build a forcomp for any game, or plan to play Alpha Strike, get two and you'll have more than enough options.
>>98883691>Yeah well whenever a leader character chooses to ride a light mech at least one other will look at them funny and wonder if they're suicidal.But there are many characters in the lore who are ace light mech pilots and never have it shot out from under them. But on the table a 0/1 is just as likely to get legged by a cerppc as a 5/6.
>>98883816The Italian government before and during WWII was a constitutional monarchy that conceded broad powers to Mussolini, but the king's endorsement still provided legitimacy to the fascists for conservatives. The Italians didn't remove their monarchy until after WWII when they became a left leaning republic.
>>98883816The Coordinator of the Draconis Combine has never claimed the title of Tenno.
>>98883870That was the monarchy cooperating under duress with the fascist government, they were always opposed to each other. Anything within a fascist nation that is not completely a willing part of the fascist government is effectively a hostile entity to the fascist government, a fascist government does not condone entities separate from the government.The draconis combine is also a feudal state, which is definitely incompatible with the centralization required for fascism's requirement of total state control over everything.
>>98883577not any more.
>>98883798Posts like these make me support the "no mercs" policies of the dracos frfr
>>98884000That is still the origin of the Hunchback C. In fact, we can trace that exact unique mech from its customization all the way to its destruction. We know exactly what wars it fought in and even how they went for it (poorly).
>>98883868>and never have it shot out from under themThey invested all their points into Luck
>>98884084Mary Sue bullshit
>>98883902Purist interpretations regarding fascism seem pointless given fascism has never been an intellectually rigorous political position. It's just a populist deathcult held together by a cult of personality.
>>98883546pretty sure the point of this scene was to show how delulu hypocritical clans are about their idea of liberation. dont forget this is the guy who bombed turtle bay from orbit.that is, to answer your question, no.
>>98883546Furries are morally superior to no-one.
>>98884177>It's just a populist deathcult held together by a cult of personality.Oh hey, the Stoners!The Great Houses have shown they have staying power through centuries, to the point the family names hold more power than blood. Actually, if anything, the Combine is a theocracy as the Coordinator is the ultimate living god of his people. This also reminds me of how much both the Caps have ripped them off over the years.
>>98882998>There will never be a BattleTech movie with Gilbert Gottfried, Val Kilmer and Lauren BacallWhy even live?
>>98884233
In our ongoing Draconis Reach campaign, we had the last of our duels today. My Crusader 7W got matched against a Lancelot 09. The enemy was both faster and longer ranged with clantech guns, but the small size of the arena meant he couldn't fully leverage those advantages. He had to stay at exactly 8 hexes to have better hit rolls than me. Meanwhile my Crusader was happy to trade shots at any distance except exactly 8, so more often than not I was connecting. After a few turns of this, sustained missile fire had worn away a lot of his armor, and he conceded, because pushing for a win would've required him to pay for clan tech crit/repair costs and probably eaten his winnings. We'll be moving on to a real merc contract soon
>>98883546And here's to the ships of Clan Smoke JaguarThey're fighting the Successor States across the Milky WayTo free their worlds from fascism and cut their chains awayAnd revive the faded glory of the Star League's golden daysIf you believe that, I've got real estate to sell in Turtle BayOh, here's to the Star League you've torn out the heart ofClan Smoke Jaguar, find yourself another cosmos to be part of
>>98884284wait 10-15 years until AI video gen gets really really good. and youll be able to write script and direct your movie, down to every detail the way you want it.
>>98884177Total centralization or the goal of total centralization is the most defining feature of fascist governance, it is an ideology of state control for the sake of state control. In practice, it isn't really distinguishable from established "communist" regimes, it being a branch of socialism. It only differs in ideals, state control being the means to an end(the end never being achievable of course) for one and the end itself for the other.A feudal state is simply too decentralized to qualify at all, but most clans are about as close as you can get to perfect fascism, being more or less accurately described as semi-kratocratic fascism, everything down to the people themselves being more closely and thoroughly integrated into the state than in any other society ever seen.
>>988843212-4 years at most.
>>98884339best start writing the script now then.even someone as talented as tarantino takes 5 years to write one, for it to be just right.
You guys get your tickets to Hunchcon yet?
>>98884347No, hunchcon banned my favorite hunchtuber from attending for being too problematic.
>>98883156Hell yeah
>>98883156more like boom blastbtw new core rulebook replaced the rules for bombast entirely.
>>98884332The only Great House that could qualify is the Capellan Confederation but like every other state it has to devolve power because of the real limitations on communication and travel in the BT universe.
>>98884375>new core rulebook replaced the rules for bombast entirely.Are they better than clan LPLs yet?
Heavens forbid a spheroid get some motion
>>98884332Communism and fascism share totalitarian government as a central feature, but have very different ideologies to get there, so I don't think that's a useful reduction.
>>98884432More analogous to a heavy laser. They're pretty interesting now, worth running IMO.
>>98884461Yeah, that's what the post said. There is little depth to fascism, it is just hyperstatism by any means available.Ideals can differ but ideals are irrelevant in the real world outside of a philosopher's head. Why something is being done does not matter, what is being done matters.
>>98883368>>98883340This is what you Namekians get for having hereditary leadership, those fat dropship lords don't know the first thing about piloting a mech!This is why the clans do away with the old as to make room for those with youthful vigor, determination and superior reflexes.>Soon I shall show them all that the clan way is superior and claim this domain in the name of clan->Healthcare and a retirement plan you say?>...>Maybe this Guru isn't the worst after all... Even if the tub of lard is nearly too fat to fit in his mech.
Rolled 6 (1d6)>>98884492
>>98883403>>98883701Well, at least this is a 5/5 skill rating for Mechs? That's only slightly worse than the average Inner Sphere and could be blamed on old age.And maybe we'll luck into getting two sides for the Aerospace.
>>98883546It's meant to make you laugh since the smoked kitties are the most evil of clanners.It's like how when a politician makes wild claims based on what sounds good rather than objective reality.
>>98884473If they aren't better than a clan LPL then they aren't good enough for competitive play. Not interested.
>>98884504>>98884492It could just be the guy focuses on being a ship captain more than anything? Maybe the first chance they get they stick the leader of the state in a Pocket Warship or even one of the only proper Warships they end up owning?Or maybe he started off leading a as an old school commander leading raids before taking over the previous leader's place. Or maybe leadership really is Guru lite, and all the violent, swash buckling crews and armies of Namek are held together by a Saisei Itchi (unity of worship and government), where the political leader also acts as the chief religious figure.Maybe the leader is basically a Shiny Priest who blesses the big Kami of the Dropships and gives his blessings on certain raids as backed by the state, which give the captain planning and leading a raid the legitimacy to call on other crews to back him like a temporary admiral. Or it could just be the guy is genuinely just mediocre and inexperienced in fights but is backed up by a military of hardened warriors in a rough, but free loving culture.There's a few ways to place this.
>>98884597>Shiny PriestShinto Priest
>>98883792Dracpilled post!
>>98884532Hoo man that's a good one. You know I bet there are actual retards out there that think like that, so I'd be careful where you tell that one.
>>98884597Well, rolls indicate that they are a 5/5, 4/?. If Aerospace Gunnery ends up with a 4 or 5 being rolled...former LAM pilot who retired from frontline combat after Nova Cats destroyed the last factory? The stats we have are Jihad era when they've only really done reminiscience piloting rather than formal sorties.If we go with that, maybe when he dies, it's in a LAM vs LAM clash between his Wasp LAM and one of the Blakist Spectral LAMs (bribe to attack Ghost Bear from behind gone wrong?) that ends in a mutual kill as he ends up flying like he did at his peak. SLDF's "Angel on Our Shoulders" vs the Wobbies Demonically named LAMs.
Rolled 3 (1d6)>>98884728>former LAM pilotGuru is clearly a dropship captain who moonlights as a mechwarrior because its a prestige thing and to show unity with all the pirate duelists now serving as knights of the realm.>>98883340
>>98884737>5/5 4/5At least he'll be a decent dropship gunner, no reason to risk the head of state in high mortality duels after all.
HONOR THE DRAGON!
>>98884597>Maybe the first chance they get they stick the leader of the state in a Pocket Warship or even one of the only proper Warships they end up owning?It's more likely that he pilots the only Union Dropship that the Namekians possess
>Day in the life of Guru>Run the state>Do diplomacy>Solve grievances between captains (Guru's word is law in any dispute)>Sign trade contracts>Review asteroid mining yields>Visit the factories for some public speaking>Fly the giant space egg around>Spend any free time he has in the simulator>Occasionally duel his bodyguard Neil whenever he gets the time, but they keep going easy on him.
>>98884749but i am le tired
>>98884785Duty is as heavy as a mountain, but death is as light as a feather.
Rolled 15 (1d20)>>98883340Rolling for Guru's personal bodyguard's skill
Will the new core box have all the new rules consolidated or will I need the beta supplement still?>corebox is only going to have alpha strike rules
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>98884807Damn Neil...
>>98884807>Shove the inexperienced social general in the Catapult A1 so he doesn't accidentally hurt anyone.>Meanwhile have the most elite and battle hardened warrior act as his bodyguard in a Warhammer 6LI think I figured out why the Lyrans love us, we have some shared doctrines when it comes to leadership.Hereditary factory owner and experienced soldier fighting side by side to inspire the troops.
>>98884840It does also fit into the idea that Mechwarriors tend to be the 'champion' of their crew. If Dropship ownership is hereditary, but the captain sticks the objectively best skilled pilots in their Mechs and ASF, it would definitely present a culture of skilled warriors that could actually keep up in duels against Dracs and Clanners.
>>98884810>corebox is only going to have alpha strike rulesHoly SHIT I wish anon. The sooner Battletech finally excises its boomer rules and players in favor of a game people can actually play in an evening after work, the sooner Battletech might actually be successful. Can you imagine catching up to 40k finally? Seeing real fanmade material, having big tournaments, seeing Battletech novels in bookstores, having a TV show like Secret Level, or even having a real printed magazine like White Dwarf. All that's holding the game back are the fucking shit rules and the old people. I wish they'd just get rid of them all and only support Alpha Strike from here on out.
>>98884857>battletech might actually be successfulIt's the longest running tabletop franchise(that isn't a historical wargame), anon. This is just the current iteration.
>>98884849There is probably a plethora of Dropship captains coming in and out of Dreamer's bay looking for champions to fight for their crews.Any mechwarrior who owns his own mech obviously having increased prestige and being able to bargain for more shares of the loot, while those disposed will at least be able to find employ as a crew bodyguard (Or whatever the official term for the lead warrior ends up becoming)>mfw that actually sounds like a pretty good campaign hook.
>>98884857>be successfulAs a 40kfag I hope this never happens for your sake, 40k going mainstream was the worst thing to happen to the franchise.The unwashed masses taint anything they touch.
>>98884857
>>98884873>disposeddispossessed
Rolled 2 (1d6)>>98884807I'll do the second skill roll then
>>98884838>>98884917>3/3that's not Gary Stu levels of skill, but not someone I'd want to fight either.
>>98884924>Observe>My left cERPPC>Its strength alone is enough to crush you like the little bug that you are
>>98884948It took Neil's successor, the Champion Piccolo, to defeat third form- I mean three of the five points of the Clanner Star that killed Neil.
>>98884961>Going Super Saiyan is Namekian slang for getting your hands on a clan mech
>You are now listening to the in system Namekian Radio Channel brought to you by Grand Elder Guru.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQmTdijhjD4
uhhhh, what book has the rules for making your own mech?
>>98885137Mekton Zeta Plus
>>98885148uhhhh, what book has the rules for making your own mech for battletech?
>>98885212Basic rules in TechManual.
>>98883451>for about 25 seconds fucks up its cluster hit rolls Every time
>>98884961It'd be fitting if he salvaged Neil's 6L, but installed in looted ERPPCs and DHS. That way it seems like the exact same mech but isn't.
Gee Bill, how come your star commander lets you have TWO Stormcrows?
>>98885506Isn't that a Nova?
>>98885148Damn R.Talsorian for abandoning Zero
>>98885569I forgot how much official Mekton art cribbed from SPT Layzner.
>>98884877Somehow I'd gone this long without ever seeing old school art of Dante with his crazy muscle armor. I always though it was some goofy nu-GW thing. I mean, I know it's based on actual decorative armor from the Roman era (called Atlantica armor, which was itself a fancier version of older Greek designs) but still.
>>98885555Pretty sure I know what a Stormcrow looks like, palNice quads
>>98885708I just love that they took the time to mold a haircut into the helmet
>>98884857Bait aside, I started with Alpha Strike like 6 months ago and the grittiness of Classic is so good I made the switch to almost exclusively that. Mekbay is a godsend.
>>98885802Even if you aren’t using MekBay for game automation, it’s by far the best force-building tool out there. Absolute godsend for putting together forces quickly.
>>98885688Talsorian were never known for being subtle
>>98884350You mean BunchesOfHunches?Dude, he ripped some girl's dreadlocks clean off her scalp last year, dude. Of course he got banned, he's got no one to blame but himself dude, I can't believe he didn't get arrested.
>>98884857What did you just say about me you little bitch?
>>98886224>Dude, he ripped some girl's dreadlocksoh fuck off, thats gotta be a weave.
>>98886241It was NOT a WEAVE, dude! That was her REAL HAIR it's NOT FUNNY, people like you are the problem, dude. When people look at the Hunchback, they aren't going to see that it's GLORIOUS 50t Brawler who WILL DIE FOR YOU for a REASONABLE cost, dudeThey will see a 14 YEAR OLD GIRL who can't grow her hair back because a BunchesOfSCUM ripped it off for no good REASON, dudeInfluencers are above the law and I'm sick of it dude, it's not fair
>>98886304I also LOVE to CAPITALIZE every other word IN the middle of my SENTENCES
>>98886179It's like they took all the 80s anime that didn't get into BattleTech, Heavy Gear and Spelljammer.The torso is more Mortar Head than Heavy Metal, though.
>>98885754Great paint job, as usual SnowRavenanon. You are part of the reason why I did some research into the Snow Ravens and now like the Raven Alliance. I really hope they allow them to be a real rival to the Sea Jews, it's boring letting them just run everything with impunity. It's also fun to have more forces in the inner sphere capable of churning out more advanced clan mechs I guess, even if that's not everything
>>98883816Not true, it’s unusual, but not mutually exclusive. Imperial Japan of the 1930’s and 1940’s was absolutely a Facist regime. It also had an emperor, which was an inherited title, making Imperial Japan a hereditary monarchy (just with different titles). But Emperor Hirohito was very pro-fascist at the time (because by authoritarian ideology even more power and control would be consolidated around him and his cronies than even the old ideologies would permit, and without oversight). So… it can happen.
>>98886744>Fascism is when you do authoritarianism Please shut up you insufferable midwit. The government couldn't even control its own army
Turn 8 concluded.Please. I wrote lore for you all. I developed your characters. This is just supposed to be a mock battle. Please stop trying to kill eachother. It's making tears flow from Pedro's eyes like waterfalls!
>>98886304>>98886329what am i supposed to do then? 4chan doesn't have italics.
>>98886304>Influencers are above the law and I'm sick of it dude, it's not fairNTA but there will be a special place in hell for each and ever influencer. What the most modern psyop campaign has done to quality of living and mental health globally will go down in history as a crime against humanity.Edward Bernays couldn't have dreamed of the multimedia influence campaigns going on today.
>>98887095nobody is forcing you to watch, bonehead.
>>98887081cont.or support for webp, or a million other features it should have. ever since we lost pdf posting on 4chan this site has been regressing and getting less and less functional.
>>98885361Ultra AC's are absolute fucking ass, in what world is adding a gunnery penalty an acceptable alternative? just let both shots hit, dammit. If you want to add a gunnery penalty make it for hitting the same location with both shots.
>>98887140as to the nature of 4chans function, i couldn't tell you.
>>98887140>getting less and less functional.
>>98887151Ultra ACs don't have a gunnery penalty?
>>98886939At the end of the day (You) are rolling the dice. Also if I don't bring glory to the Celestial Wisdom and my unit how will I get assigned a better mech?
>>98887140You want to know something even more fucked up? The PDFs that were posted back then are still on the server. If you have a direct link to one, you can still access it.
>>98886939If they die they die.
>>98885754Ya know, putting the cockpit center mass in the front of the machine is retarded in several ways.Which is why the vulture is the superior birbmech.
>>98885754One of the things about the new CGL miniatures is that the Nova and Stormcrow look not that dissimilar from afar which could be a good way to mess with people.
>>98886939I feel like I am being edged.I want the gory details and the battle report. Which promising young life was cut short? Who defied death?
>>98886939If he dies, he dies.Though if you want this danger to prompt something that slows this down, could declare that Referees clearly can't keep up with the fighting, so everyone's mechs need to be customized with safety systems. You use a "Targeting Computer" as proxy. It doesn't provide any to-hit bonuses, but instead locks down "dead" Mechs when it determines that too much damage would come in and prevents attacking them. The TarComp is used to determine the weight of the safety systems and everyone needs to declare where they are saving that weight.
>>98886939Ah, the traditional trap. Never get too attached to anything that can get shredded by RNG.It's the game that sets the narrative, not the opposite. Glory to the winners, and respect to the fallen.
>>98886939If Igzael bites it, his family is going to use their media empire to smear the absolute shit out of that academy.
>>98888207
>>98884199Orbital bombardment is a typical Inner Sphere thing, not sure why a Clan doing it once makes them worse than the House than genocided tens of millions of people on Helm alone
>>98888241Because the houses all stopped doing it about 200 years prior. The dumb clanners tried to let that genie out of the bottle again and were rightfully smacked down for it.
>>98888241>The Great Houses did it two hundred years ago so it's still okay.Your terms are acceptable.
>>98888266Uncle Cordy did nothing wrong!
>>98888241Only the Sphere is allowed to do warcrimes. Specifically the Great Houses.
>>98888266>>98888279>only stopped because they lost all their warships>started doing it again after they got warships againjust proves my point
>>98888347nta but if you're gonna go there>Be the descendants of the SLDF>Claim to be SLDF+>SLDF committed some of the worst atrocities in human history >Only stop because they self exiled and had nothing to bomb>Proceed to build back up in a whole new region of space only implode a decade later and bomb each other>After eventually forming the Clans, they devise a system to not resort to bombing each other>The moment they finally invade the Inner Sphere, one of the clans throws a shitfit and bombs a planet because the civilian population wasn't complying fast enough Sounds like the Clans are just as bad about it desu
>>98886377Thanks man, glad to hear that people like them so much.>>98887551Vulture is cool but let’s not kid ourselves.>>98887612I have had a veteran player repeatedly refer to a Nova as a Stormcrow and vice versa, so you aren’t the only one. I need to run them together sometime.
>>98888241>clan does the exact thing kerensky fled the inner sphere to prevent the SLDF from taking part inPossibly the most ironic thing to ever happen in battletech.
Which Cauldron-Born is the most fun?
>>98888812I like the H for maximum fuck, you can either fire the HLL and UAC-20 and just be up movement heat, or you can fire everything but the HLL and still be up movement heat. Tarcomp-ed UAC-20 is hilarious, it makes everybody shit their pants as soon as it gets into 4 hexes.
>>98888812I like the G, but I'm just a fan of HAGs
what if I make a Thunder Stallion
>>98889051It would be extremely based.
>>98889054Based on what?
>>98889109Like, you know, owning the spheroids.
Pretty proud of this lad. Just have to figure out the rest of the lance.
>>98889128Personally I would have based it on a horse, but you do you.
>>98889153It's not a true totem mech, it's only horse inspired, it's not horse based.
>>98889051It would be extremely edible.
What kind of a clan light/medium mech would fit into a merc company as salvage? Roughly thinking around clan invasion time frame to shortly after. Don't want anything too crazy/unrealistic, but it would still be a lucky situation for the company.What would be a realistic set of 3 mechs to run with it? Just want to paint up a believable lance for display.Thinking Rifleman / Wolverine / ThunderboltPic related?
>>98889181for you
>>98889182Mist Lynx is always a good option, weapons are pretty concentrated in the arms so it'd be relatively easy to salvage.
>>98889182Kitfox is supposed to be really common Black Lanner would be easy to justify late in the warThe Fire Moth was around enough and they even move all industry into the IS laterThe Battle Cobra was in production for a long time so everyone should have a few since they're easy to build and maintain
>>98889182Isn't the Cougar ubiquitous for Clanners? It'd probably be the most reasonable light to get salvage of
>>98889218The most reasonable light to salvageThe most unreasonable for not making those other three bigger robots look like complete chumpsAside from maybe an Adder
>>98889182The most reasonable light to salvage is a Fire Moth because statistically not only are you going to encounter them in every clan touman, but statistically a few MASCs are going to lock up its legs on occasion, giving you near 100% fresh salvage after it finishes cartwheeling through the airIf the G forces somehow don't kill the bear inside then you can even claim them as bondsmen.That or just kick its barely armored leg off when one gets too cocky and greeds a backstab
>>98890053Speaking of Fire MothsIs this a reasonable second line Scout / Striker / Command star? With both the Fire Moth and Nova being able to get reconfigured into high alpha strike variants depending on mission parameters. Not to mention helping evac elementals from others stars that got wrecked on the front.
>>98884597>>98884747I think I gotta remind people of Eugene Tsui, because he dresses like a BT character and builds houses like he's from Namek.
>>98890111
>>98890111I can only imagine he is quite the character if he goes grocery shopping like that.
>>98890111>>98890115There also was a time when Sun Ra dressed like the Japanese Emperor and strongly insisted that people gotta hop on space ships.
>>98890119Sounds pretty unhinged, is he genuinely crazy or merely pretending?
>>98890111This is so stupid it wraps back around to being pretty cool ngl
>>98890116The dress is the equivalent of the giant open floor plan kitchens in villas, I imagine.
>>98888051I think I envision training at the academy to include frequent mock battles with the mechs, but the battles I conduct are once a year live fire exercises. This is what produces truly great results for cadets. There can be some considerations for it being a training battle, but there will always be some risk.Turn 9 is done btw. I'm looking forward to the upcoming turns. Things are now on a knife's edge with the 2 teams.
Insult my homebrew
>>98890137>Gauss Rifle in the head
>>98890143It's a choice, I guess.
>>98890149>>98890143>they don't leave sweet messages on their projectiles in the heat of battleTruly the patrician way to shitpost
>>98890086The Phoenix Hawk IIC feels out of place, fluff wise. Something smaller and zippy like a Viper or Lancelot C would be around the right BV and a better fit, though of course both of those are pretty cheesy.
>>98884747Hol up... is that... a butte?
>>98890214Do you plan to hold it?
>>98890210It's as fast as the Nova tho
>>98890153>2,000 years of warfare and we’re still writing shit like “catch” on our projectilesTruly there is nothing new under the sun
>>98890616History sure does rhyme a lot.
>>98890616People like to have fun.
>>98889051You should make the thunder stallion 4, 85 ton jump pony with a gauss rifle, LPL and a LBX/2O with half its armor on the back for some reason is peak deranged clanner shit.
>>98884857This post gave me AIDS.You know you can play Imperial Knights in 40k right?
>>98889051Looks good anon. Its your first 3D model, or you have done others?
>>98890111Ten or fifteen years ago I would have loved this building, but now that texture just makes me think of a bad 3d print.
>>98890857No ive made things before. This will be horse 2.
>>98890989The Balius, looks good.Do you a cults/thingiverse page?
>>98890711why does it have missile pods?
>>98890137you might want to put the heat sinks in the legs in case you wind up in water and want to dissapate extra heat, or just to pad your leg crits.You've got enough crits to take ferro and add something if your remove the hand and lower arm actuators.
>>98891230Probably because the Thunder stallion has missiles. Variants rarely get art.
>>98883628>The Combine's lifestyle is honestly kind of clan like Clan military elitism grew from the organizational culture generated by the SLDF's obsession with its Gunslinger program, which started when the SLDF decided to copy Kuritan culture to win duels in the First Hidden War. Clans (and SLDF before them) were always just wanabe Kuritans in denial.
>>98890111this man is clearly from the future.
>>98891266my meklab is so old it doesn't have #4
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You know what I don't like about BT?There is never any reason to push your heat unless you know for sure your going to die next turn.The heat penalties are too harsh, its just better to run cool and never have to worry about it.
>>98891327the ability to fire 1 or 2 weapons every 2nd or 3rd turn is never worth the tonnage. Undersinked mechs are the pitts.
>>98884857This is my favorite rage baiting trolling on here, good job anon, keep it up(but not to much). I think the only thing that has it topped was that one guy who was a 40k purist getting kicked out of his LGS for throwing a fit over some guys playing battletech and acting all smug about it
>>98891324Perhaps a turn limit is in order
>>98884857lol>virtual world>stackpole>"you dare refuse my batchall?">Shrapnelperfect bait. might actually have required some knowledge of BT to pull off.
>>98891327I regularly push my heat up to 7 and sometimes go to 13 or maybe even more if I've got a good shot.And of course, all TSM mechs go to 9 or 10 and then cry when hit with infernos or plasma.
>>98891290It's kinda funny how the Dracs basically influenced everything in the setting. Even before Amaris, the future conflict felt like it was set up to be the Dracs rebelling against the Star League at some point in the future.
Something that has been rolling around in my mind is the idea of a successor state falling and the fallout that would ensue, both in universe and from a marketing standpoint. Would this be an interesting idea that should be pursued? Pic totally not related.
>>98891400why? the -1 mp means you won't be able to withdraw and the -1 to targeting means you won't hit shit
>>98891422There are mechs that already can't withdraw at max speed and I upgrade my pilots, use precision ammo, and sometimes have pulse lasers. If I can cripple you now, I don't have to care about you next turn.
>>98891402Honor the Dragon!
>>98891413FWL already collapsed anon, it go carved up by the Steiners and wolves
>>98891400>I regularly push my heat up to 7 and sometimes go to 13 or maybe even more if I've got a good shotI am afraid of this man>t. gets physically ill if I exceed my mech's heat budget by even a single point
>>98891443The Lyrans aren't doing so hot either, they balkanized so hard even a rebrand couldn't put the realm back together again.
>>98891422It really depends on the mech, if you are some slow energy zombie like an Awesome or Archangel in heavy woods you sometimes just have to push the heat to eliminate a threat to your good position and cycle out a PPC for a turn or 2.
>>98891230Base variant is 3 LRM 15s and a lbx20 or something
>>98891429not really the point.its a design flaw from my perspective.
>>98890711Wouldn't this be a good candidate for a HH forcepack mech? Could do a cosmeticly similar updated version with a HAG and ATMs, maybe give it an XL engine and fix up the armor layout, horsefags would go wild.
>>98891336Some mechs can fire a lot more for up to 5 turns before seeing negative heat penalties. Some every other turn. I agree though, having to wait 2 or 3 turns for your heat to cycle down low enough to fire an adequate amount of weapons is ass and is absolutely a design flaw. Note though that firing an adequate amount of weapons does NOT mean alpha striking. Plenty of mechs have to cycle their weapons around based on range and stuff, like the Bushwacker for example
>>98891536Really you should try and squeeze MASC and a supercharger in there even if it means taking smaller gun to maMongol. full mongol boat.
>>98891366No way! Turn 11 is complete. The battle rages on with giants on the verge of collapse. All it takes is one little hit to the right area and everything changes.Only 6 mechs currently remain standing. For comparison, in the 1st match, there were 6 mechs left on the winning side when the match ended. This is already a much closer and more intense fight.
>>98891422Because he's a cool dude who isn't afraid to live life on the edge while you're a scared widdle baby afraid of getting burnt.
>>98891536I don't hate the armor layout, and it proves valuable when you're pretty likely to see some Locust IIC or Firemoth try to tear your back open. Tho 20 points in CT rear is maybe slightly excessive.
>>9889163520 on the front side torsos is just crazy.
>>98891327>There is never any reason to push your heatIf I can blow a limb/side torso off this turn then it doesn't matter that I have to cool down the following turn.
>>98891327>There is never any reason to push your heat unless you know for sure your going to die next turnYour nova is behind the enemy kodiak
>>98891623I, too, like to live.. dangerously
>>98891422Jump jets aren’t affected by heat penalties. I can happily jump away at max velocity to cool off and then come back in one turn to blast all my guns up somebody’s rear again.
>>98891579I tried my hand at it>XLFE: 4/6(10) with SC and MASC>2 ATM-6: 3 tons of ammo>HAG-30: 6 tons of ammo>CERLL>17.5 tons of armor>ECM suiteI called it the Thunder Stallion 5, overall I think it's pretty decent.
>>988919284-5 hexes barely moves you one range bracket
>>98891327I pushed myself to shutdown roll in a 1v1 Clint vs Cicada and managed to crit a hip and blow up an engine putting me at advantage next turn where I ran to cooldown. Overheating is great sometimes.
>>98891973This is standard operating procedure for the jenner, it works pretty well. Most map sheets aren't just flat plains, there's usually cover you can utilize. Combine the range, terrain, and TMM from jumping, and it's not likely to be a trivial shot.
>>98891973Then what were you going to accomplish at 5/8/- that 4/6/5 doesn't get you?
Even with something like the classic Awesome fire pattern, how much are you really going to need you move after 3 straight turns of firing? At that point either something fast is up your ass and you might need to turn one or two hex faces to avoid it or you're standing off against another brick, and there's a good chance one or both of you are bogged down in woods and hills. What does 3/5 really do for you in that situation that 2/3 doesn't?
>>98891973NTA but the to hit bonus you get from jump jets is massive compared to just running. Maxxing out your jump jets to make your mech harder to hit is almost always worth it, even with the negative accuracy modifier you get yourself. On top of that you can reorient yourself in any direction you want so it's almost impossible to get flanked if you play the terrain right. Jumping > running always
>>98892056There are still times where running is better, especially if you can find straight enough lanes to build a good TMM or there's a time limit and you have to get somewhere in a hurry.
>>98890111>>98890115Every picture of this guy is Inner Sphere noble or Comstar adept
>>98890153>Omae wa mou shindeiru
>>98892056If you have IJJ. If you don't running is usually better if you have to close over mostly open terrain.
>>98890126>is hewashttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Rahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAQCPmpSUI
>>98892056>Jumping > running always>alwaysNo. It isn't.
>Dude accidentally listed a bunch of old metal under Battletech 1994 TV action figures>Boatload of unseen and other goodies for $4.75 apieceToday was a good day.
>>98891327Sometimes you have such good shooting numbers that the chance you'll destroy or cripple an enemy is worth the risk. Other times you are positioned well enough, or your enemy is so focused on some other target, that spending the next turn overheated is a safe risk. Honestly if you've never pushed your heat without waiting until you're dead then you're just not living right.
>>98888191>tfw rocked a guy named Sean Flanigan piloting a Starslayer through a Draconis Reach campaign>was the backbone of the lance, survived minefields, melee with an axman, and held the line for 2 turns solo to win the track>tfw in the beginning of the final track of Mallory's World he eats a cockpit hit and dies instantly
>>98891327They hated him because he told them the truth.The heat scale is way too tight, all the worst possible penalties are compacted into the single digits. If those penalties were moved further away and certain other smaller penalties (such as +1 to hit ONLY at long range, etc) were to populate the range then more people would want to make their non-TSM mechs warm.>>98893543And that chance will basically never happen unless your opponent is blind and feeling his way around the map and minis with his fingers.
>>98893627>StarslayerHe died based
>>98883546yes. DO IT AGAIN PEREZ
>>98893642>And that chance will basically never happenBut you are wrong and it does. All kinds of things happen in the chaos of games that actually get played.
>>98893642>every enemy mech can jump 8 and you'll never catch them out everAnon, I think you have bigger problems in the games you definitely play.
whats up party people?anybody up? whos excited for halloween? anybody doing any BT stuff at or around spooky time?
>>98891617>Only 6 mechs currently remain standing.Who all's managed to last?
>>98893875I just got back from not finishing a game of BT. We called it a draw in my favor. No BT stuff, just a little Halloween party.
>>98893875I might play a Halloween game on Sunday, but it starts pretty early and is at a store I don't normally go to so I might skip it.
>>98893875Just finished painting a Corsair, and now I must slumber.
>all this fluff about manufacturers >all weapons and equipment act the same
>>98894534>all this fluff about different factions>all sabers and muskets act the same
>>98894534>All these battleships and nukes>Towing an asteroid into a collision course is still the most cost effective way to rapidly depopulate a planet.Factoryfags like to think that they are all super important right until someone drops a dinosaur killer on their asses.
I know it's obviously autism but what drives people to rock multiples of the same mech every single match? There's a local that collects crabs and has over 40 individually painted crabs, and another that just fields as many marauders as he can fit in the PV limit.
>>98894833>There's a local that collects crabs and has over 40 individually painted crabs3d printing and hyper fixation to ignore all of their personal problems.Why do you hate crabs?
>>98894833Marauders and crabs are cool.
>>98894840I love crabs, my favorite assault is a KGC-000B. I just don't understand only using one type of mech.
>>98894833>Why would people collect multiples of good mechsWhy wouldn't you?
>>98894534It'd be really cool if all the individually named components had different weird, little quirks, like say a Vindicator getting a bonus to heat sinking if it stays in the water if it used its Ceres Arms Smasher brand PPC that turn for example. But realistically that would be insane trying to keep track of in a pencil and paper type game. Maybe if it was being tracked automatically like on megamek.
>>98894812Not really. Moving space rocks the size of mountains is a pretty involved operation that requires special gear and know-how.It's also a general principle of BT that nothing happens in space.
>>98894534Because the performance is grouped into 10 second intervals and each hex being equal to 30 meters. This flattens a lot of stuff like a single shell vs burst.If you want full details, you want one of the games like Mechwarrior 5 that goes in on the real time where you will get significant variation in quality levels, manufacturer, and type of firing action among other things that come up with working with a way, way more granular timespan and just general ability to calculate stuff.
>>98894534You don't know about ballistics until you've used the burst fire LBX10
>>98894833because it's fun, especially if you really like the mech in question. The issue for me, and why I don't always do it, is because sometimes it gets a little hard keep track of what mech is what even on something like megamek. Sometimes I want a more relaxed game and having to keep mental track of what identical mech moved and which one didn't can be annoying, but not always. Post crabman's crabs next time you can snap a pic of them. The Marauder guy also sounds cool as well. I'm sure he knows about Miller's Marauders, who only field Marauders
>>98894943>all weapons unique I like this idea but generally at best all you can do is add some fluff in the description of the mech for it. That being said whenever I design a mech I usually like to look at the quirks available for their weapons and I usually like to add something to make them feel a little unique. For example I recently designed a mech that uses a handheld rifle style clan grade large pulse laser, but since it's made by a small company in the IS, it has the poor cooling jacket quirk, because the small shop making them can't perfectly emulate clan spec stuff and it produces more heat as a result. Sometimes adding small quirks like that, even if they enshittify your mechs, is fun
>>98895027Here's his half of the battlefield map, he usually only fields his painted ones but this was a horde event.
>>98895289>A full battalion of Crabs coming right for youDid you wear your brown pants to that game?
>>98895323They gave me the Amelia Earhart special.
Crab man seems kinda based. Let him like what he likes.
I think it's pretty easy to justify having 8 crabs and 4 king crabs.
>>98895364No hate to him, he is based. I just noticed that a not insignificant amount of people in my LGS are fielding copies of the same mech and didn't know if there was something I was missing. Myself I bring melee pretty often.
>>98895382I think the kitchen sink lance compositions in the setting tell a more interesting story about the fall of humanity personally. I generally won't put more than 2 of the same mech or vehicle in a lance.
>>98895364I want to know more about him and if possible buy him a drink.
Kill those who insult crab.
>>98895289HOLY CARCINIZATION. This guy is SO based for this. You better tell him he has a whole fan club on the Internet now. I want to hear more stories of crabman
>>98895289>ChristmasIsland.png
>>98895289>BOYS AND GIRLS! LET'S GET CLOSER AND GIVE EM OL' CLAMPS!
>>98895364I want to pull his arms and legs off and eat them with melted butter.
>>98895704Depending on the era they might be hanging out at 14 hexes sniping at you.
>>98895836That's gay and lame. Clamping is more fun.
>>98882892I love the lancelot
>>98895382Most people I know use the "max 2 of the same chassis and 1 of the same variant" guideline. It's not a hard group rule or anything, and the bigger the game, the less likely it is to be followed. We did a campaign where the starting forces were whatever you wanted up to a max of 2 of the same chassis (regardless of variant) but then afterwards new mechs that weren't salvaged in a match were taken off RAT rolls and you could end up with as many of the same design as you could roll (and afford, and have somewhere to deploy them from).
>>98890711Needs a cargo variant that can carry buraqs so you can put a horse in your horse so you can horse while you horse.
>>98894833>what drives people to rock multiples of the same mechFaction flavor.>every single match?Dedication?
>>98895411For /mydudes/ I always use the kitchen sink combat doctrine because it's fucking AWESOME to field multiple things. This here Marauder? A star league refit, lostech and all. This Vindicator? Thrice trashed piece of shit I love too much to let go.
>>98896035Spheroids would never be able to cope with the sight of something so honorable and dedicated.
>>98896035Mechs are explicitly prohibited from having infantry compartments even if they have enough space for it. No that doesn't make sense since that was literally what the firemoth was originally designed to have, but it's a rule that exists.
>>98896131>No that doesn't make sense since that was literally what the firemoth was originally designed to haveI mean, it didn't work on the firemoth either, so that's consistent with the ruling.
>>98896131I like the idea of APC mechs that deliver spec ops troops, like the Loto that ECOAS uses in Gundam Unicorn. A convertible APC-to-Mech with a troop compartment would be neat.
>>98896193Back view
>>98896201Converted form.
>>98896076But the Vindicator is a good mech...
>>98896193Since a quadvee is a mech I'm pretty sure its also not allowed. You should file your complaints with CGL.
>>98894534I say nobody gets to bitch about weapons not having quirks until everyone is using mech quirks.
>>98896253It would help for record sheets to have the fucking quirks on them.
>>98896253I love playing with quirks. It can make or break a lot of mechs in a fun way. Low profile mechs can be run alot more aggressively as well, granted that's probably THE overpowered quirk of all overpowered quirks
>>98896269>It would help for record sheets to have the fucking quirks on them.The sheets generated by MekBay do.
>>98896215Do I adore and cherish the vindicator? Yes.Is it a good mech...? I mean it's a good trooper 'mech
>>98896346It is pretty good but imo combat computer is the best quirk because it is always does something for the units that have it.>>98896366>cheap>durable >well sinkedA great bodyguard for heavier mechs or core of medium lance.
>>98896353If only the first party products made by the company that makes the game did the same thing. You can't really complain about adoption until they do.
>>98896193>>98896201>>98896207Come to think of it why DON'T we have some kind of transforming Mech/Tank (LTM?) thing?Most mainline tanks in battletech rival the tonnage of heavies/assaults, so the Star League could've thrown some of that transforming tech in a Marksman or something easy, right?
>>98896766Ignore the marksman example, I'm a retard and forgot it's post-invasion
My favorite mechs? I'm a fan of "nigga with a gun arm".
>>98896766Boy, do I have an entire retarded clan honor system workaround unit category for you.
>>98896804This guy GETS it
>>98896403I want to like this, but it's a bit hard to tell what's going on.
>>98896193The Acguy can also carry a frogman squad, but only in Origin, I think.
>>98891617Think you'll have the core writeup done this weekend, or are the last 6 mechs likely to go the distance?
>>98896834God bless Clan Hells Horses for bringing us so many retarded out of the box mech designs. It's really a shame they probably won't bring us more LAMs. I could really see them and the Jade Falcons bringing us more LAMs with their proclivity towards retarded unique mechs
>>98897196Hopefully the remaining cadets decide to preserve both thier mechs and their lives if one side gains the advantage.
>>98882892My Drill Sergeant called me a filthy Blakist.>Ilclan is best clan, trooper.
>>98897196Core writeup done by this weekend? Woah, woah, woah! Where's that idea coming from? Even once the game is done being simulated, I've got lots of data points to compile, the full batrep to write up, I was thinking of making some more lore in the form of turn by turn chatter of that battle. I've got to upload all the pics from the phone, then download them to the computer, then organize them and pair them up with portions of the batrep and create a 4-chan friendly 2,000 character limit batrep. There's a lot beyond just the battle being simulated.All the lore story bits that I posted not too long ago aren't even included in that. That's all stuff that I'll do in the break between battles 2 and 3.>last 6 mechs likely to go the distance?6 mechs? Did I say 6 mechs? Hmmm, well I'm looking at having just completed turn 15 and now we're down to 5 mechs. Turns are so much faster to play now. I will spoil a tiny bit about the current state of the battle though. It's not a 4v1 battle, it's a 3v2.>Percentage of remaining BV for each side: (36.4%) vs. (25.2%)Could still go either way.>>98897298Referee calls have been more stringent this battle and will be going forward for the sake of the mechs and pilots. Some cadets will be having to roll on the KIA table though. Can't remove all the danger from the battlefield, even training ones.
>36.4% in more than one mech Gale is down
>>98896834Kinda weird how we haven't gotten even one bipedal quadvee. Yes I'm aware of the name, but you'd think they'd do even one.
>>98897916Stop doing math Will!
>>98897972A bipedal quadvee is kinda just a mech with Tracks.
>>98898344It's a regular quadvee with two legs blown off.
>>98898465You take that back, the Diomede is a handsome boy! Also probably the only design where tracks are worth it.
>>98897972That would require CGL to write new rules for something.
>>98898344I don't know, I see what anon is getting at.
>>98898344Not exactly, because the Tracks equipment can only move at Walk speed.
>>98896766There are multiple quadvees.
When it comes OmniMechs, what exactly makes OmniPods a big deal for mech customization? I mean, before 3050, you already had mechs that replaced their primary weapons with alternatives for whatever reason, consequences be damned (the Centurion 9-A that would come to be known as Yen-Lo-Wang which had its AC/10 replaced with an AC/20 and the chest-mounted LRM rack removed as one example), so how does an OmniPod make it easier for mech customization against pre-3050 customizations?
>>98899380>When it comes OmniMechs, what exactly makes OmniPods a big deal for mech customization?The fact that the swap can happen in a matter of hours, allowing pilots to change their mechs loadout / get repairs done rapidly in between deployments.The omni system allows the mech to re-calibrate itself on the fly, this is also why battle armor can cling to the mech without slowing it down.While sure you can swap out the weapons on a regular mech with enough time, effort and money, you will still need technicians with the right knowledge to re-calibrate the whole thing so it doesn't explode. TLDR: Better electronics and standardized parts are what make the magic lego mechs work. Meanwhile the real reason was video game limitations, they couldn't add that many polygons so to get the most out of their limited storage space, a lot of clan mechs "mysteriously" share parts, like legs, toros, arms (Direwolf and Warhawk, Vulture and Timber Wolf, Summoner and Hellbringer, Adder and Kit Fox, Fire moth and Mist Lynx) and they came up with the omnimech justification to go with the videogame justification for swapping parts around.The problem is that they then started making games with none omni mechs, but kept the customization since that's half the fun in a video game.
>>98899380A loadout refit for a standard mech, aerospace, etc typically was a several day to week ordeal, and that grew even more difficult if the swap was for something like going from energy to ballistics.Omnis could do this in minutes, hours at the worse. As a result, your customization isn't restricted to building a single unit in one specific way, but instead you can have a set of multiple different loadouts you can hotswap to based on conditions.Additionally, while this isn't represented mechanically on Tabletop all too much, in Lore you can take full limbs off of an Omnimech and put them on another if they are within certain tolerances, allowing for easier Frankenmechs.
>>98899416>>98899427Yeah except when the Piggy finally got around to Clam robots appearing in MW5 they couldn't be bothered to set a script to make all omni refits take 0 days after a certain date.
>>98899380PLAY CAMPAIGNS YOU FUCKING SECONDARY The moment you see what happens when an omnimech force is back out in the field 2 days after a fight, while standard battlemechs are still laid up for 2-3 weeks, you'll see the advantage omnis have. Damaged weapon? Pull it out, alot a new one in. It takes 30 minutes. Non-Omni? 4 hours, minimum, to do the same (120 minutes out, 120 minutes in), and to do so on the same target number as the omnimech requires 16 hours (quadruple time), and that's just for 1 weapon.None of this is even touching the customization option. You know you're fighting in a heavy storm later that day? Take 2 hours and pull almost all of your missile weapons for lasers. Fighting near a volcano? Add heat sinks instead of that 13th CLPL. The IS Mechs would take 3-4 weeks to make that change minimum, and you're ready to fight that day.Does this shit matter if all you ever play is 1-off death matches with the other mental defectives at the LGS in the 2 hours once a week you're allowed to engage with the hobby? No. Not even slightly. But if you actually game for real, playing a linked series of games where logistics actually matters, omnis are amazing.
>>98899446Fahad is simply too stupid to understand how omni's work, even after we get innersphere omni's in the form of Sunders and stuff.100% the mech techs are just working on omnimechs like they are regular mechs, slowly dismantling and putting them back together with the lego sockets staring them right in the face.
>>98897719Did the surviving students get to go trick or treating one last time?
>>98896880I have a soft spot for the Victor although I might secretly be a Davion schoolgirl at heart.
>>98899657The battle isn't over yet. I'll do some more turns later today.
>>98899520>can't complete the misson without needing hot-swappable equipment
Would a point of VTOL BA in Stealth armor that moved 5 hexes have a total +TMM of +5 if shot at by the mech whose hex they're invading?Also, what's that max heat you can apply to a mech per turn with flamers/infernos? 12?
>>98899724>VTOL BA in Stealth armorThis implies that there are more than one option, which BA are you talking about?
>>98899723>a contract is one sortieJust stick with the Lieutenant, rookie; soon as we hit the factory reset on your ground-pounder brain and get some brainwashing done on you, you'll be a proper merc yet.
>>98899998>cant complete the contract without needed hot-swappable equipment
>>98899724External max heat per turn is 15, period.
>>98899776The only VTOL BA that I know of are Sylphs, and none of the variants have Stealth Armor. Maybe he’s making custom Battle Armor.
>>98899708How are the last 5 holding up? Ammo should be pretty low or gone if you did 15 turns.
>the virgin VTOL battle armor>the chad WiGE protomech
>>98900587>LAM tanks in your path
>>98900587>WIGE protomech?>Look innside>it's another horse contraption
>>98900587>>98900781>NEEEEIGH! My name is RAPE HORSE
>>98899427>>98899520Logistics and the ability to change easily between contracts/missions is exactly why I think omnis fit the inner sphere better than the clansLove me IS Omnis, simple as
Hell's Horses are never beating the allegations.
>>98900815Not when they made Draper a bloodname and have someone named Horse.
>>98900829Who up drapering they horse right now
>>98899416>While sure you can swap out the weapons on a regular mech with enough time, effort and money, you will still need technicians with the right knowledge to re-calibrate the whole thing so it doesn't explode.Though how dis Hunchback pilots who didn't like the HBK-5M devised the HBK-5N (omission of CASE and downgrading the HBK-5M's small pulse laser for a regular small laser)?
>>98900834Do you make them whinny?
>>98900856Because they have technicians.
>>98900856Mechtechs have always been capable of massive modifications of mechs, that's why so many variants change weapons, armor, engines, sensors, etc.It just takes a LONG time, comparatively.The main advantage of an Omnimech is that you can change the main weapon layout while the core 'mech stays the same. An Avatar AV1-0 is going to have the same armor pips and speed rating as the AV1-0R despite having an entirely different loadout
>>98900829>>98900834
>>98900856The 5N is characterized as a military field refit, which means that quartermasters can put together significant technical support to get it done. It's not something actually being done out in a field, officers put in requisitions for replacement parts and gave their mech techs the time to do it in actual mechbays.
>>98900956Every Hell's Horses cockpit has the HPRB by default
>>98900890More omnimechs should have base model variants desu.
>>98900382That battle has reached turn 19 and is now over. Congratulations to the winning team and the 3 survivors.>Shiloh Verkler, WVR-6R>William McCormick, VLK-QA>Igazael Antwerp-Jones, LCT-3VI'm going to clean up the game table and take a little break. It will take some time to compile all the data in to the play by play and stats.Final thing I'll leave with is the list of the cadets who will end up having to do some KIA checks. The time to roll is not yet here, but, these are the ones that will have to.>Rebecca Buck>Ishtar MarikAside from them, there was 1 cadet who ended up with 4 wounds, but I don't think we're having anyone doing any sort of training impairment rolls for that.
>>98901058>4/5 internal structure pips gone on a side torso with nothing but MG ammoHoo boy
>>98900829They are simply deeply enthusiastic about their totem animal and what it represents, spheroids could never understand why its very important to make everything be about horses.
>>98901076"Do I LOOK like I know what the hell a totem animal is?"
>>98901058Looks like my math was right but I won't spoil anything. You were right on turn 15 it could have gone either way depending on how fresh the other team was.I honestly expected my slow fedrat junk of a ride to be swiss cheese but it was probably a case of no one wants to shoot at a single ML late game and a single ML with high armor sounds like a good initiative piece.
>>98901058Christ are those the only three I assume who didn't get wounded?
>>98901162- Last words or f man moments before being hit with cLPL
>>98901197No. Those are just the 3 that survived. Pure coincidence that they also didn't get wounded. There were 2 other Mechwarriors who didn't get injured at all.Here's what it can look like for those that didn't make it to the end of the battle. I'll share my Mechwarrior's so as to not spoil the others just yet. Every color is a different turn. I got cocky for just 1 turn with my aggression and then it was over for Hobby.>>98901176>no one wants to shoot at a single ML late gameYou didn't run out of LRM ammo until turn 17.>good initiative piece.Completely irrelevant for this game. The right half of this picture shows how I was handling initiative. No team rolling. Every pilot got dealt a card. Mechs moved from low card to high. Really made deciding how to move the mechs a lot quicker and easier.
>>98901058How are you going to be rolling for a KIA check and is it going to take into account for say paramedics being on the field or can the school not afford them?
>>98901284This was designed earlier and agreed upon. When I'm ready for all the dice rolling to start. I'll let the players know and have them roll publicly here.
>>98901302Ah been missing a few of these lately due to other things. Hope the injuries are going to get reflected in the narrative!
>>98901319But of course.
>>98901265I thought HHH would be the apex predator of the light mechs before the game started. Did he take a bad leg kick?>You didn't run out of LRM ammo until turn 17.I see. I hope that means my shots were good ones.
>>98901353Worse. Highlander alpha strike... and hits from Igzaeel's Locust... and even shots from you you filthy animal.
>Abominations are now canon.>There are new rules to create them with canon tech, both IS and Clan.What are /btg/'s thoughts on this?
>>98901419Meh
>>98901419woah that's crazy, but when are we getting newer less retarded rules for LAMs and bringing them back into the setting? Abominations being canon is weird but as long as they are extremely rare and the people who are spliced with their genes are viewed as subhuman who should be killed then I'm chill with it I guess
This happening >>98901265 is also what led to me having this reaction before. >>98891324 Turn 10 was such a disaster and not even just for me.
>>98901434They would be a perfect fit for Society army lists IMO.> the people who are spliced with their genes are viewed as subhuman who should be killed then I'm chill with it I guessI can see Canopians liking them a bit too much. kekAnyway, new bread:>>/tg/98901447>>/tg/98901447>>/tg/98901447
Forgive me >>98901462. I am retarded.>>98901447>>98901447>>98901447
>>98901380What can I say? Looks like the lance commander made the call to light you up specifically.>>98901450Don't tell me the Warhammer failed its PSR and fell
>>98901494Okay, I won't tell you.
