Great Necromancer edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>98866769>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/KAQe7n7f>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:What's next for GA death?
>>98876687>What's next for GA death?I don't know what they could add, but maybe they'll blindside us with something random like OBR again.
i hope we dont get any more souping.
Eye candy articlehttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jqmnddcy/golden-demon-2026-winners-revealed-at-spiel-essen/
>>98876707OBR wasn't random, it was just an army based on End Times stuff that stood out as particularly odd. It was rumoured about too. I do wish we got something closer to Tomb Kings, but more Nagash style fleshy liche than mummies and shit. Basically just an army of tiny Nagashs + Arkhans + constructs
>>98876735This is why AoS is PEAK
>>98876740I can definitely see how they evolved from there but there's still a bit of a leap between that and the goofy faced goober bone golems we got.
>>98876735Felix lookin zesty dayum empire boys look like THAT?!
>>98876747not in love with the teal as a choice but the paintjob is really good
>>98876747Using the fatty was certainly a choice
>>98876752I wholeheartedly agree, man. I hate OBR half the time but the other half is my dream army
>>98876757Age of Fatmar: The Last Meal.
>>98876752the only ones with the goofy faces are the basic melee infantry. pretty much just one kit thats the problem. everything else looks great
Kuan Tien Tung went absolutely insane this GD. They won or placed in every category, basically. Also I wouldn't have festus pegged as two of the large model winners, and I definitely didn't expect the WFB slann to take first in the large model category. >>98876757The curves and rolls on heavyset people have always made them popular with artists. Go to any college figure painting class and most of the nude models are heavyset women. I know everyone likes to reeee about overweight women of color but that's a lot more interesting to paint than your fifth "regular" marauder.
>>98876778You have no option for the standard bearer
>>98876747Perhaps we judged these models too harshly.
>>98876778>The curves and rollsFilthy and disgusting, bloated lumps of fat. FTFY.
>>98876774This is a sequel to his GD diorama entry from two years prior, showing the same dogs as younger during their training.
>>98876774AYO DIS UR LINEAGE NIGGA YOU HEAH ME
>>98876774Single-handedly dispelling the grimderpness.
>>98876783I am aware, I am currently building darkoath StD. I'm saying that for people who like figure painting, fat women of color is a plus. >>98876788Literally half the winners for GD every single year are nurgle models, including this year. The rolls are a dream for volumetric highlighting.
>>98876747Not even a literal golden demon finalist can save the hr woman sculptThe other ones actually look really good here though
>>98876806>>98876747Do you know how fucking good you have to be at painting for this guy's last name not to come up at all thus far
>>98876735For a split second I thought that sprite had a big ol'girl shlanger.
Really cool to see the thirty year old Slann sculpt beat out three decades of advancements in large monster models. I know they're well received but I kind of don't like when the large model winners is kind of 'predetermined' - like, the year Ushoran or Vordrai came out, it kind of felt like you were handicapping yourself by not promoting GWs new mini
>>98876835that slann sculpts only like 2 years old, what are you on about?
>>98876816Kek
>>98876847Wtf, wow, I didn't realize the regular Slann was refreshed, I thought that was the old one that came in finecast. It looks really similar to the old one, which is nice
>>98876874yeah its a pretty faithful adaptation. they took more liberties with kroak. some people think the new kroak is too much but i think its cool. it is more difficult to paint though
Could this dude be painted up to pass as an evil vampire cleric or a spooky ghost in an animated suit?
>>98876916No.
>>98876816It's Europe, so the word association is less strong
>>98876687>TQHopefully a SBGL expansion that diversifies from the Slavic look some
>>98876904Only thing that bugs me about Kroak is that he looks mostly alive. Especially without the mask on. Which I'm still not sure is supposed to be the case. But there isn't a single modern Lizard model that I don't like. The whole range is great.
>>98876916If you told me this mini, as is, was supposed to be either of those things I'd say "yeah that sounds right".
>Bleh!
>>98876778
d'awww
>>98877000>>98876994>>98876789>>98876778>>98876774>>98876753>>98876747>>98876735these all look really bad, wth happened to this hobby. Just way too cartoony and shiney, nmm slop everywhere, no grimdark aesthetic at all.
>>98876820Anon…>>98876904Bottom right is the clear winner
Rare curseling fan art
>>98876793>SMASHED
>>98876774>my ancestor :)
>98877008The creature is so desperate for a ((you)) it's throwing out bait hoping SOMEONE will take a nibble
>>98876774>>98876789I kneel…
>>98876774>>98876789>>98877101That was the artists statement btw not mine, I realize the dogs don't have the same coat, I guess it's more of a spiritual successor than the exact same. The trainer is the same though
>>98877028Almost got me with the grimdark comment at the end ngl
>>98876961Your wish is granted, sub-Saharan African SBGL next.
Nothing much going on. MTO Tzeentch stuff is coming but that's about it.
>>98876961I hope for the opposite so I can collect Kislev CoS proxies and SBGL
>>98877194I'm surprised it wasn't Kill teamWonder when GW will release the KH and Serephon
>>98877183Maybe not vamps but honestly an african inspired faction could be absolute kino. Probably more appropriate for tow though >>98877194Looks like they'll officially anounce the battleforces at least
>>98876687A win for Nagash in the story.
How do you stop these greedy little roundbois from eating your entire army?
>>98877258Goated sculpts
>Necromunda RP cancelled this clears the team for Warcry... Right?
>>98877019
>>98877019>>98877365This artist sure knows why Tzeentch is sovlfvl and the best chaos god!
>>98877194Totally embracing WotC style cartoony tranny art these days huh
>>98877194This looks like it was generated in a lab to be as generic and corporate as possible.
>>98877206If GW wanted to add Chaos presence in the south in TOW I've always though they could do something like the Afircan tribes with really tall people and the big wooden masks and their worship is more akin to voodoo.Doesn't make as much sense in AOS since real world cultural/ethnic equivalents don't really exist since there's not much in the way of meaningful geography to shape them. Everything is pretty cosmopolitan in AOS. But a human kingdom on Ghur could work I guess.
>>98877195I just want the cool gothic aesthetic again. And I prefer straight swords to curved.
>>98877460Did you mean to reply to >>98877365
>>98877258Squigs can have a little grot, as a treat
Old blood knights were so rad
>>98877515Could be cool, but you know damn well they're not making em evilEither way, would be rad
>>98877515Something stirs
>>98877643The age of sigmar is over. The age of the... has begun
>>98877556Yeah no fuck finecast
>>98877703NOOOOOO NOT A WAFER THIN BIT OF RESIN!
>>98877703They never came in white metal?
>>98877552
>>98877556Just think, $100 for 5 dudes used to be considered comically overpriced.
>>98877556Meh, odd proportions.
>>98877741They're just like you
>>98877515>>98877206If they had any balls they’d bring back pygmies but the world is too gay for that
>>98877752Your mother seemed especially fond of em
>>98877737Krieg used to be ridulous as well but I'm pretty sure plastics are more expensive now.Not accounting for inflation.
>2026 >I am forgotten…Lord Celestant on Dracoth update when
>>98877756>if they had balls they would waste moneyIf they had balls Albion would’ve been a thing nobody gives a fuck about pygmies dawg
>>98877760Why? It's already cool.I hate primariscast.
>>98877760Vandy is cool as fuck, but holy shit those armour plates on the dracoth are ass.In any case, they'll probably do another vandus when they get around to khul which is supposed to be coming soon™They'll probably redo the other dracoth kit not long after.
>>98877794Vandus 2.0 will probably be ruination chamber, on account of him barely fuckin' holding it together
>>98877737Varanguard boggle the mind>>98877723The issues with finecast go beyond flash, even if the sculpts were popular (they weren't, people would convert dragon princes)
>>98877760Flying Stormcast dragons are too fruity, they should've stayed grounded unless they're fuck huge like the stardrake
>>98877817They better include my boy calanax
>>98877760Dracoths will go the way of dracolines before you know it.
>>98877870Good. I hated those dated ass sculpts by 3e. Their competitive sins only double their loathsomeness.
Is TK just ran as Bonereapers for AoS? I'm debating getting the new set but I don't like rank and flank
>>98877927I think they proxy better as SBGL.
>>98877927That or lahmian themed soulblight.There's also some fanmade tomes for tomb kings out there if you wanna go for it
>>98877927Meh. Poor idea.
>>98877765That’s what you think… (I agree about Albion too though)
>>98877765>>98877964Albion's right here lads
>>98878013If she stubbed her toe and a nail came off, would she still feel you trying to impregnate it?
I miss this era.
>>98878072Silver tower...Home...
>>98877927Soulblight has rules for skeleton infantry and horses but not for skeleton archers. OBR has rules for skeleton with bows, shields, and horses.
>>98878072Onwards to KFC!
>>98878083I swear it’s pigeon they’re feeding me
>>98877008Trying Too Hard.
>>98878072Just the right amount of detail without being too over complicated
>>98878072How did we go from this to >wheeels reeee?
>>98878165Warrior priests, witch hunters and landsknechts was such a comfy aesthetic
>>98878165>mythic fantasy fails to catch the fancy of people>people express their desire to see something more grounded>concept artists are asked to throw shit at the wall regarding stuff that feels that way>the more resonant idea is to exaggerate tiredness, poorness and uglyness>one example of such an idea is a religious figure using a wheel as a halo>incidentally the range has no wheel anywhere else, and likely won't have any>say "fuck it" and make wheels sacred for at least this cult and see how it goes
>>98878206I really feel like "we won't use wheels" came first
>>98878206>>98878228the cannon has wheels
>>98878235Yeah, and in lore Zenestra will send her goons to personally rip wheels off of carts and cannons because it offends her.
>>98878206The concept of using human beings as a transport for an enshrined figure goes so hard, tying in the positive themes of the indomitability of the human spirit but also the darker undertone of exploitation of the masses. An excellent fit for an army where foot peasants march alongside moving castles. It's a shame the Grail Reliquae capture that feeling so much better than zenestra.
>>98878235I was talking about zenestra specifically
I actually like a lot of stuff on this mini. The hooded monk up front and the palanquin themselves have a strong presence. Zenestra herself lacks presence, which would be improved by either making her fat or a child - the former emphasizes the weight she puts on her bearers and the latter emphasizes the fact that she's basically a reincarnating immortal, as well as being more shocking to see fight. I actually don't think her being obviously black is an issue - blacks have a unique relationship with religion, ranging from their own subset of churches to more esoteric Black Israelite stuff. A weirdly religious black woman is actually pretty believable to me.
>>98878333Also the wheel symbolism should be WAAAAAAY more heavy handed. The lanterns should be burning wheels, or at least wheel-shaped braziers/chandeliers with candles placed on the spokes. There should be wheels on poles as standards decorating the palaquin, similar to the metal eight pointed star standards that chaos warriors have.
>>98878330I think the cinder god lore is pretty cool and I like most of the model except zenestra herself. She lacks presence, idk.Also kind of ugly, like yeah she's a grandma I'm not expecting her to be hot or anything but she's just kinda odd looking. Not even in a chud way.Maybe a veil or something could be added to add to the mystique?
Are there any kits or other sources that would provide good sculpted roses? I know there's some in Nighthaunt but a lot of those are sculpted into bases or other hard to extract areas. Alternatively, what're the odds that I might be able to sculpt a decent one having never done any real sculpting before?
>>98878350Like I said, I actually think a religiously strict elderly woman is not intrinsically a deal breaker for a support/warshrine centerpiece. I had pre-refresh Cities army, but I genuinely don't resonate with the new minis enough to buy back in. The box with Talia and a bunch of horses might convince me, I just can't see myself painting Steelhelms and I'd have to do SOMETHING with Zenestra but unlike Steelhelms I could see myself making the mini likeable to me.
>>98878350>>98878330Her being actually the skeleton, while the old lady is a fake projection, is pretty neat.
>>98878356https://youtu.be/mfaPgIro3B8?is=Gv-oI9JpP_A4FTxlThere you go. I think this should be extremely doable.
>>98878333das right white boi, carry me!
>>98878356Mainly nighthaunt yeah. I think the old battlemage kit had some too, on the scythe intended for the death mage.>>98878370Yeah it's pretty cool actually. The model doesn't really show this off very well though.I guess you could try and paint zenestra herself to have a subtle cindery ethereal effect, maybe by utilizing heavy red undertones? Ehhh...
>>98878378>working the clay on a cut geodeArts and crafts women are fucking weird
>>98878416Listen, you want the tutorial or not? Lel
>>98878416They're operating on a different level from the rest of us.
>>98878386This is why they make you sit at the kids table at thanksgiving
>>98878082chariots, archers, infantry, stalkers as stalkers, etc
>>98878455Yeah, SBGL is not a great fit for Tomb Kings, OBR has a much better set of options for elite large-base monstrous infantry for Ushabti and Stalker counts-as.
The real trvthnvke is realizing even Vcoast work better as OBR
It's not a truth nuke so much as "there are only two death units that can be used as a ranged gun line".
>>98878472Triaxes are one obviously, but which other unit is there? I'm drawing a blank.Unless you mean the catapult as a cannon
>>98878481Only other one I can think of is the Craven King's Guard with their crossbows meant to deny him the satisfaction of landing any kills KEK
Episodes of Arkanaut where?
>>98876687A MILLION MORE FOOT HEROS TO SOULBLIGHT GRAVELORDS
>>98878511Check the previous thread.
>>98878496Oh yeah true, forgot about that one. Funny unit. Everything kurdoss is great honestly
>>98878481>>98878496Yes, I meant crossghos.
>>98878541Kurdoss deserves more of a spotlight. If I had any interest in ever painting another Nighthaunt model I'd definitely get him just for fun. He deserves a book. Or at least a short story.
>>98876735That sylvaneth model is fuckin mint. While I wouldn’t like all dryads to look like that it’d be neat as a one off here and there. I should probably save some money for a sylvaneth expansion matter of fact.
>>98878566It's a very cool model range.
>>98878566Since release, Sylvaneth have gotten Alarielle, Kurnoth Hunters, Drycha, the bug riders, the big Kurnoth bug rider, the Arch Revenant, Lady of Vines, Grove Guardian, and some warbands. They're not getting a dedicated release wave for a long time. They have one of the biggest and most complete ranges.
>>98878701Oh, and also the flying archers. What I mean is, I dont think they're getting a third expansion after two dedicated waves and several glorious large models as their 'pity heroes'.
>>98878701Alarielle was part of their initial release wave. So far they've had their initial 2016 release (+inherited kits from whfb), followed by a couple of pity heroes (I think they were in 2 vs boxes, so more than most). Their pity heroes also tend to be quite big.Then in 2022 they got a small second wave which was the lady of vines, the gossamid archers, and the bug riders. They also got belthanos in the end of edition campaign.They've been better supported than a lot of other factions but honestly nothing too crazy outside of their nice little pick-me-up in 3rd edition. Honestly they probably punch up pretty well when you consider their actual range size.But yeah goes to show that even a relatively small amount of new (non foot hero) models can really help a faction out. Same with obr this edition.Wouldn't expect anything too sizeable for a couple of years though. Dryad refresh maybe.
>>98878795Idoneth would probably be in a better place by now if they also had gotten big monsters for each of their pity releases instead of more foot heroes.
>>98878330>EsotericMore like deracinated
>>98878837Yes, I think it's really a stretch to call something like Belthanos, Lady of Vines, Arch Revenant, Warsong Revenant, or Grove Guardian a pity hero. If every one of AoS' redheaded stepchildren got this amount of love, FS would probably not be soup right now...
>>98878530Is it all worth watching if I'm not a KO fan?What other factions are in it?
>>98878883Deracinated only applies to stuff like black Israelites, but there's more than just that on the spectrum of strange religions that black people love. Black people are also very overrepresented in Jehova's Witnesses, of which Prince was a famous example. But there's also the trend of late-in-life Islamic conversion in black Americans, which is not so much a deracination thing; and the role of gospel or Caribbean voodoo beliefs in black religiosity is the opposite of deracination. In general black people, particularly in America, have a weird affinity for religious with weird strict prohibitions. Zenestra being an old strict black lady is actually a great choice.
>>98878701Frankly speaking, they have more lmao. They’re one of the more narratively involved factions, up there with stormcasts among the order factions. They should have as big of a range compared to maggotkin at least.
>>98878950They should have more*
>>98878950Do maggotkin have a bigger range than Sylvaneth? I'd say both factions are a good example of a currently well supported range unlikely to get an expansion. The biggest difference is that maggotkin actually came into AoS with a decent range from End Times, between the PBKs, flies, maggoth lord kit, and glottkin. Sylvaneth got their first wave in 1e, maggotkin got theirs in end times.
>>98879094The only thing maggotkin got from endtimes were like 3-4 kits and those were mostly just heroes. Sylvaneth themselves don’t have that large of a range compared to maggotkins 33 warscrolls where sylvaneth only have 25 (including the endless spells).
>>98878333>of the Great Wheel>no wheel
>>98878916>Deracinated only applies to stuff like black IsraelitesWhat I was referring to yes
>>98879173Wheely disappointing, desu.
Are there any pdfs yet for 4th edition for the HOS and/or SOB battletomes?
>>98879491if there were, i havent seen them yet. once they are posted, i can add them to the gofile.
>>98879110>Glottkin>Morbidex, bloab, orghotts>Lord of plagues>Gutrot spume>Putrid blightkings>Finecast 2008 nurgle sorceror>Finecast Harbinger of Decay>Plague bearersThose 8 warscrolls are because of the WFB range. In terms of AoS support Sylvaneth has has just as many releases as nurgle, it's just they inherited dryads and branchwraiths in comparison to the relatively healthy range nurgle got>>98879812If you were from a first world country and could read you would know that I wasn't glazing them at all
Started reading Spear of Shadows. The opening Grungni scene is amusing. Shame his new army is hideous.
>>98879860>>98879812You both have a point…
>>98880080The fyreslayer second wave in late 5th edition will fox this
>>98880275>5 editions for a second wavekek
>>98880275
>>98880377>>98880379Trust the plan runesons
>>98880395>>98880275yes and then the long anticipated rematch between the deepkin and fyreslayers where both get entire army set worth of additions thus true peak will prevail in the edition and age of sigmar in general
>>98880427Vgh...
>>98880427That art makes the flamekeeper so much cooler than he actually is.All the post 1e Fyreslayer models just look off. Intern tier sculpts. Vulkyn are mostly alright tho.
>all this copiumYou might have had a point if GW hadn't literally nuked the Fyreslayers from the setting.
>>98880427Events from the VS boxsets would have been way better if they were foundational elements of the respective factions' history, and many pity heroes and limited edition sculpts should have been special characters.As it stands very few factions are allowed to have longstanding grudges or opinions on one another because so many of them only properly appeared recently.
>>98880443to be fair, most of the artworks usually look better than the models themselves i usually think of sekhar as my case in point i dont mind the flamekeeper and the grimhold exile and i actually really like the new fyreslayer with dog i might get him just to have it. also im so glad i picked up the doomseeker before his demise, one of the best dorf models ever imo
>>98880456>im so glad i picked up the doomseeker before his demiseI wish they did a proper final MTO or sendoff or something for these models. It's always like "Yeah he'll be going so pick one up if you want" And then before you know it it's gone because they had like 3 left in stock and they delist it. Gee, thanks.
>>98880461mongers warned us about the ones that would go away, you have no excuse
>>98880449Speak for yourself, vostargoid
>>98880485I'm talking generally. I own every FS model besides the vulkyn. But if I could I might have picked up an extra grimwrath.Having to rely on leakers isn't where we should be anyway.
>>98880494>vostargoidLiterally every lodge besides Lofnir and Greyfyrd, anon...
While we're on the topic. I saw this on the unmentionable site and thought it was cool.
>>98880627please stop taking credit for other people's work
>>98880631Yep that's me, Mr Wiggering.
>>98880633woah... did you do that?
>>98880679If you weren't a schmuck you'd be able to envision a world where you post a picture of your mini and someone would be genuinely impressed enough to ask if it's yours
Where are they, GW?Where are they?
>>98880709Next Edition. Battletome Kurnothi. Also Sylvaneth soup.
>>98880709if i had to start the game over again i would definitely pick sylvaneth, they're such a good range. they have no misses in their entire collection
>>98880709Lol eat shit Woody, get Stunty-mogged
>>98880740Yeah they've been great since day 1 imo.
>>98880709PtG hero + PtG custom units
>>98880773Rope yourself. Immediately.
>>98880709Sidegame shed, where they belong
When I ask you if you painted something, it isn't a personal insult. It's like asking if something I enjoyed is homemade or store bought. I enjoyed it, so I want to know if I should direct my compliments at you, because I think you deserve them.Unfortunately, once this positive sentiment is filtered through your layers and layers of insecurity and lack of validation in your personal life, this reads to you as an affront. It's just sad. You can't imagine being the subject of praise so you make it a negative thing.
>>98880709Why, its the next release anon
>>98880847It just sounds like you got pretty pissed by people posting other people's stuff.
>https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/lhfdf28v/warhammer-day-is-coming/>buy hideous new warqueen>get art of the far superior previous warqueen(don't get me wrong the art's still way better than the old model)
>>98880911what makes darkoath strictly matriarchal again?
>>98880958nothing. the warchief is still there.
>>98880958Queens just slayy harder
>>98880961warchiefs aren't equals to warqueens
>>98880969they quite literally are.
>>98880895I asked once, several weeks ago, verbatim, "Cool mini, is it yours" regarding a mini that I genuinely believe was within the skills of an intermediate painter. Unfortunately, this was very triggering for individuals with low self esteem. I routinely post minis I find inspiring.
>>98880969>Makes up lore to be mad atWhy, though? Enough snowflake shit
>>98880980Nta but no warqueens are a tier above chieftains, you need to defeat a daemon in order to be able to call yourself a warqueen.Warkings exist too, they just don't have a mini. In the same vein, female warchiefs obviously exist but both chieftain minis are male.
>>98880980>>98880994But they aren't equals, warqueens are above warchiefs.
>>98881000Trips checkedBut it's just a chaos lord/aspiring champion of chaos dichotomy, they just decided to make the chaos lord a 7 foot tall boobplate frazetta viking instead of yet another dude without eyebrows
>>98880999Also trips checked
There we go.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/jrdutvgn/new-battleforce-boxes-revealed-for-warhammer-age-of-sigmar/
>>98881027Meh, pass. Feels good when I don't want to paypig. Would have done so for a Hashut box.
>>98881027so the leaker was wrong lmao boole said only 4
>>98881052no, they got all of them.
>>98881027Yo this is fire
>>98881027>nurgle and nighthaunt are the only ones that doesn’t Jew out on model countI get that the others have more ‘elite kits’ but I buy one of these to have a project not to finish building it in an hour>that stormcast oneFucking kek nobody bought annihilators then
>>98881059just 4 and Nurgle was entirely wrong because he didn't say lord of blights
>>98881067idk if it was boole, but all of these were leaked ahead. And they specifically said that not all of the models leaked were the final exhaustive list. So who fucking cares if they missed the lord of blights but got 90% of the rest of the box?
>>98881027>Nurgle gives you 42 models>Ironjawz gives you 8Why do they hate Destruction
>>98881072Because the pigs have always been horrendously overpriced and people only got them because they were in the start collecting.
>>98881027does the stormcast one really not come with the full kit for the annihilators?
>>98881067>just 4>actually posts when he listed the last 2 in addition to the previous 4>entirely wrong>actually posts how he was correct aside from that one miniature?
>>98881027Did they really have that many unsold boars? At least throw some basic boys or something in there too
>>98881072you shouldn't underestimate how big the pigs are
>>98881067Boole derangement syndrome does strange things to some anons' minds
>>98881067Tbh I'm kinda impressed he got that many right for someone that's just a rampant liar and has lucky guesses. Even a broke clock is right twice a day amirite? Imagine the idiots that believed that games workshop would ever nuke a setting.>>98876687Tbh I'd be happy enough if they just gave death a cohesive theme or mechanic to be based around. Right now I honestly think you could swap most of cos and obr rules and fudge the names a bit and nobody could tell you which rules belong to you which army.Sbgl and fec still got a little uniqueness in them but sbgl feels like such a farcry from the tricksy 2e book they were.Nh is just fucked. I don't understand why they didn't just remove ethereal when doing a massive overhaul of the faction. The problem is and always will be when some ass hats cogfort or archaon whiffs they'll blame ethereal, or when the army is doing insanely well they'll still blame ethereal.
>>98881089They're not a bad size but it does make the box feel super underwhelming. Imagine trying to talk a buddy into starting up an army and that's the fucking box you point to. 8 models for like $300? They're gonna tell you to go fuck yourself. At least with the NH or the Maggotkin boxes you actually feel like you're going something that not just a marked up Spearhead box.
>>98881155Low model counts don't drive people away from knight armies, gargant armies or custodes armies.
>>98881027Alright lemme try and calculate value. Using yurobux for this:>stormcastannihilators (x3): 153bastian 38.5celestant 38.5relictor 36praetors 47.50Total of €313.5. If battleforces are 212 like they seem to be now that's like a 32% discount.>CoSCavaliers (x2) 113Cav marshal 56Tahlia 135Total €299, 29% discount >nurgleHarbringer 51Lord of blights 27Blightkings 53Rotswords 53Wretches 47.50Sloven knights 56.50Total €288, 26% discount. Feels a lot better than the rest honestly despite not being that great of a discount on paper. Less character and centrepiece tax?>jawzBeeg peeg x2 140Small peeg x2 148Total €288 again, 26% discount>nagash and friendsNagash 125 Dreadblades 23.50Harridans 47.50Scythe guys 47.50Sword guys 47.50Total €291, discount 27%>StDChaos lord on horse 53Chaos knights 56.50Chaos warriors 51.50Varanguard 87.50 (holy shit)Chosen 51.50Total €300, 29%Surprisingly stormcast are the best value
>>98881180Retail yeah, you can find lots of sce and nh stuff nos second hand for much cheaper. Taking into account the second hand market, nurgle or cos would be my guess.Nh and sce feel like a trap. Wouldn't be surprised to see praetors and harrows cut within the next 6 years, even a rumor of new nagash.
>>98881204At least CoS and NH have the excuse of basically just being a giant centerpiece with a few extras.Overall the savings on these have just been nuked though.
>>98881027what is with ironjawz i swear they get a battleforce every yearalso sad to see that rumor slop was correct
>>98881027>SC Box that is like half dominion and a special character everyone already hasHARD pass>CoSWould be decent for someone who doesn't own a single CoS model, but otherwise, man...>NurglePretty cool but I have zero interest, pass>Ironjawz, 2 each of 2 kitsNO>NH, hope you don't own a Nagash!Blah>STDMeh. Yeah, feels good when I don't like any of the boxes. Don't need to save up or worry about the one good box selling out in 10 seconds.
>>98881027>half of the boxes are just a spamming of 1 unitno wonder they delayed talking about this crap. god these are shit.
>>98881052If you're going to shit on things you should at least point out how he actually fucked up, namely the NH box being totally different He said chainrasps and spirit hosts.
>>98881027feel that std one is a pretty dam good double purchase since that hero on mount can be built as eternus
I'm just getting into the hobby and I want to practice my painting. Did a few SCE that the friendly GW store manager gave me, but I want to buy a bunch of cheap models with low emotional investment to practice techniques.Is there a best plastic to dollar model kit? Am I missing something?
>>98881313Stormcast are essentially custom made for exactly this purpose. Try to find some deals on ebay since they've been in every starter box since 2015 they're usually really cheap.If you want some different shapes and textures and stuff nighthaunt and kruleboyz also work for this, provided you can still find some.
>>98881265>Would be decent for someone who doesn't own a single CoS model, but otherwise, man...No duplicates with the current spearhead. If you own the army set you might just have a few more cav than you initially planned. idk doesn't seem that bad.
Why do I fear for the future of varanguards.....dont tell me they are getting leyended
>randomly remember the great BoK character cullingDamn now I feel bad again.
>>98881356They're the oldest StD models at this point. A refresh seems likely enough if StD are the 5th starter
>>98881295nah he was right except for banshees
>>98881027Ironjawz is a good buy with the spearhead for starting the army
>>98881412Anon where do you see chainrasps and spirit hosts in the battleforce?
>>98881420Nta but they’re that shadow behind the rock. You gotta squint your eyes tho
>>98881420ALWAYS! *CLAP* BELIEVE! *CLAP* BOOLE! *CLAP*
>>98880456This is one of those characters I always forget exist.The model should have been so much better.
>>98881407the chariots are the oldest DESU
>>98880627that actually does look pretty good>>98880633this less so
>>98881420Right there man
>>98881027Is this any good in Mawtribes? I kinda want to relive the Braggoth's Beast Hammer days
>>98881485kek
>>98881476Kek
>>98878386kek hard not to notice >>98878370it’s easily the highlight but like the other guy said not immediately noticeable
How the fuck do you confuse nighthaunt units of all things
>>98881027Damn but I already got a Harbinger of Decay from last year.What should I do with my second?
>no dorfs>sigmarine clearance box>YET ANOTHER nurgle box with the same hqTell me it ain't so bros...
>>98881514Vampire ogor tier knowers.
>>98881180Honestly you gotta make some adjustments for actual value vs MSRP, which is no surprise. The Stormcast box has Annihilators which are not worth anything anymore on the secondary market, UNLESS they are the full NON-ETB kit, in which case they're just worth a lot less than MSRP. Lord of Blights is likewise not terribly popular anymore, though it was good for painters a couple years ago when the Lord of Plagues/Lord of Blights was like a rite of passage. CoS box looks genuinely great, no notes, no steelhelms in the box is awesome. StD box Pigs is hard to rationalize. Gore gruntas used to be really cheap in the SC!, much like magmadroths and carnosaurs long-time players are gonna have a hard time swallowing their price memory.
>>98881356>LeyendasEsl detected>>98881313Stormcast, or anything that has an overproduced starter box like Dominion (Kruleboys), Skaventide, or (not so much these days) nighthaunt
>>98881556Nagash box?
>>98881556£57 for 3 Gruntas is comical
>>98881514THEY ARR ROOK THE SAME!
>>98881514Certified Boole Moment. Trust the plan.
>>98881514Don’t anons this general constantly rip nighthaunt for looking too similar?
>>98876904>some people think the new kroak is too muchthose people could make do with less, but they never do
>>98881563I don't know enough about death to comment, these are really just evaluations colored by my personal biases. I am not likely to buy a death army so I did not consider the box.>>98881583Idk, my issue is that the sculpts are old and ugly. I think varangard at that price would be a steal.
>>98881622Like all satire, half the anons here are in on the joke and the other half are missing the point entirely.
>>98881651It's not my fault the Sonichu medallion chose me.
>>98881027The Nighthaunt one is just the Spearhead plus 10 guys from the previous Spearhead and Nagash
>>98876793> SLAMMED
>>98876789Based
>>98881089holy shit those are big
Got my girl convinced to build&paint some minis with me.What's a good girlfriend army? I don't want her steering away from the stereotype.
>>98881730Why does the zerg in that photo have a prolapsed asshole
> no sylvaneth xmas boxwelp guess im getting the battleforce with the treelord's then!
>>98881732Sylvaneth.Not too hard to paint, have a few different play styles.Alternative is Seraphon for the same reasons
>>98881628Sure, but you're asking someone to buy a kit that they don't use the majority of. That's not really a solution. The simple answer would be "don't buy a model you don't like", but it's complicated by the fact that Kroak is a badass character who people liked before his refresh. >>98881732Sylvaneth, lizards. Colorful armies with organic or floral themes, contrast and wash friendly. >>98881755Zerg? You mean the Tyranids from the cancelled Warhammer 40k RTS from the 90s? It's probably so it can shoot acid at you.
>>98881732Seraphon and especially sylvaneth are the designated girlfriend armies. Nighthaunt are another good choice.
>>98881759I'd be hilarious to see three years of battleforces at my lgs
>>98881093Which way does it go though >>98881755Zerg if they were cool and based maybe
>>98881755it's what happens when you eat psychic food
>>98881088The spearhead basically packs everything else
So we're not getting EoE until next year?
>>98882003You mean how the cycle works every single time?
>>98882003we might see something as soon as the lizard stuff is out, but yeah
>>98881368Arent You happy to get random bloodreaver, thats been called "deathbringer" by GW instead, anon?
>>98882011>Dawnbringers – Book I: Harbingers released on July 8, 2023>Broken Realms: Morathi - November 7, 2020based retard
>>98882063This model is so good I can forgive it for just being a chaos blood bowl figure painted red.
>>988820861 exception, 6 years ago. Things have changed this decade retard.
>>98882133That's twice, every EoE campaign we've gotten. There has not been a single EoE campaign that started in the last year.
>>98881067>boole was wrongSo only the box he got wrong was the nurgle one? 3 out of 4?
>>98882086>>98882145that's not including 1st and 4th edition which began in the last year and are more typical
>>98882145One of those is a narrative play book, not the standard EoE stuff.It's like claiming a PtG book mid edition is EoE content.
>>98882003The first book might be announced somewhere during November, just like the first book for the last 40k EoE was. But then it depends on how long will it be. If it's a big event with 4-6 books then yeah, first announcement within a month. If they just want to be done with it and have one book to wrap things up, then we'll have to wait some more.
>>98882168Broken Realms and Dawnbringers? It's okay to be wrong.
>>98882185It's pretty clear that something in the AoS plans went retarded in 3rd and there was some scrambling done, exceptions aren't rules. Endless mistakes in planning for the lead up to and during 3rd really, giant spider, kragnos, ToW poaching armies. You're just pointing out a book that came early due to bad planning, not that it was supposed to be the plan. And yes it's a narrative play book, not the standard EoE stuff.
>>98882236Dawnbringers, which happened at the end of 3rd edition and directly dealt with the event that served as the basis for 4th edition... Wasn't an EoE campaign series?Yeah, okay, retard.
another one for the bingo >BR Alarielle was cancelled and BR Kragnos altered because Beastmen plans >Dawnbringers wasn't EoE it was a narrative book series
Looking at Underworlds leaks GWS looks like they are looking to identify who are the leakers...-A new skirmish game could replace both UW and Warcry By 75hastings69-Boole reassures that WHU won't be discontinued and that it has plenty of kits waiting in the pipeline! By Boole-Whitefang Jr have heard the same about the future of UW as 75hastings69 By Whitefang back me up-There's one warband coming and then a box of two warbands fighting By Ejecutor-The upcoming Underworlds box cotaining two warbands would be released in September, but they are now delayed potentially to Christmas By Ejecutor-There's no Cities of Sigmar warband among the ones releasing in September By Ejecutor-There's four warbands and six decks coming for Underworlds By Ejecutor-Whitefang back me up says that Ejecutor's info is not right and that there's no more UW warbands coming. By Whitefang75hashtings69 + Whitefang got the version that Underworlds + Warcry are done.Ejecutor + Boole got the version that there are more boxes comming.I guess we will have to wait until Christmas (or beyond) to know for sure the future of those side games.
>>98882264Boole and Ejaculator are related to the final production process: printed material, packaging, store prep, etcWF Hastings are higher upUW was cancelled after the boxes and such were commissioned, planned for.bWouldn't be the first time this month we heard of such even (Necromunda RP)
>>98882153Nurgle and sc he forgot a heroNighthaunt has some units he didn't say and it doesn't have some units he did sayThat anon is a retard though claiming boole only said 4 boxes
>>98882282Damn, that would be sad.Underworlds is such a good beer&snacks game. (I would love to have a w40k version(would be more popular)).Either way I don't doubt it got canned as GWS are not run by smart guys. (not that corpo can't get things right from time to time)
>>98882264I know people are really weird about any talk of the tga leakers, but I for one appreciate you summarizing what they're saying over there. Thanks anon.
>>98882325>weird about any talk of the tga leakersto be honest I have a visceral reaction to tga posters more than I have to tga leakers, and I know for a fact that the worst tga posters are also posters here and in tow, namely kanluwen
>>98882306Ah well, I am currently buying everything I can every week at a steady pace. If I don't manage to get all the bands listed at official store; sucks but I'll live as I already got a decent collection to play with myself and friends.Still, it is disappointing but also on point for GW.
>>98882372Doesn't this make you too a tga poster
>>98882384no, I don't post there, duh
>>98882282>Wouldn't be the first time this month we heard of such even (Necromunda RP)Was Necromunda RP cancelled?
>>98882409Yeah.The models are being released, but everything else is cancelled.
>>98882409yes, it got announced in the last reveal show then shortly after the vast majority of articles about it were removed, and recently they had an article saying>yeah, no, it's not happening anymore, we'll release the minis on their own, here's a timeline of other negromunda releases
>>98882417>>98882429I haven't read any of the recent Necromunda articles, just looked at the modelsBut lolI mean, I was very skeptical about it. We already had a bunch of Warhammer RPG games from companies that are much better at designing TTRPGs than Games Workshop. It all felt like >How can we sell some Necromunda models for a higher price than usual?>Let's add them to a game that no one will play longtermMany such cases.
>>98882455>Many such cases.that's the thing, that's never stopped gw before, some other thing must have stopped them nowthe prevailing hypothesis is that gw forgot they had given the rights to do necromunda rpgs to someone else
>>98882455Warhammer RPGs have practically no appeal compared to Warhammer proper but a GW RPG would have a massive pull.
>>98882480>Warhammer RPGs have practically no appeal compared to Warhammer proper>but a GW RPG would have a massive pullWhat?Maybe I'm retarded, but what's the difference between Warhammer RPG and a Games Workshop RPG?
>>98882508GW make it and sell it in their stores? Third party shit may as well be fan projects to most people
>>98882514So I was retarded.Thank you anon for the clarification
>>98882514Things that weren't sold in GW stores used to be very popular. Chaos in the Old World. Many of those FFG RPGs like Dark Heresy or Black Crusade. Warhammer Conquest. The 40k version of Talisman, was it Relic? They were sold in regular non-GW stores.
>>98882400If you're there often enough to recognize certain users and their typing patterns you're an honorary tga poster desu
>>98882541No, I'm not suddenly a poster just because I've got working pattern recognition for the worst takes ever to stain the places where I get my rumors
>>98881062>Nurgle gets what I assume to be the best boxWhose dick do I have to suck to get as much love and care put into MY factions as what Nurgle gets?
>>98882480Isn't wfrpg genuinely pretty huge in eastern europe?At least from what I've heard from anons.
>>98881046Same here. Looks like Nurgle players will be happy though.
>>98882605CoS is pretty great if you like the models to be fair.
>>98882634Yeah, the CoS box is basically the meta way to play even after pt increases as it's the only way to actually deal damage.
>>98882480soulbound is more popular than aos
>>98881027Will GW arrest me if I put the helmet on Thalia and make her a blonde?
How much are Battleforces this time then? Probably a hike to 150 I suppose
>>98882714Only if you travel with the model to turkey
>Volker’s hands ached, and his eyes stung from the heat and powder. He continued to load and fire, his actions automatic and unconscious.>unconsciousMr Reynolds, please apply yourself.
>>98881538Convert him into something else. I've always though that with enough work and skill someone could turn it into a really nice Death on a Pale Horse or similar Grim Reaper looking horseman.
>>98882760Maybe I'm too esl but isn't this a perfectly useable word in this context? He's working on pure muscle memory here
>>98882629I don’t know about huge but it does seem to have a presence at least (whatever that says)>>98882726Kek
>>98880999>>98881000Why no warking model though
>>98883014Same reason there's no female chieftain model. Make your own.
>>98882153BOOLE LIED!
>>98876747>Wiggering
>>98881538I'll give you $20 for it
Wtf the nagash battle force is like 1600 points on the table, something is guaranteed getting squatted. That's INSANE. Pigs is like 850 points
>>98883351Well yeah because nagash by himself is like 800
>>98883351Shame Nighthaunt are fucking gay.
>>98883437Yeah, so the box could've been nagash and like three bedsheets, but the extra stuff that comes with nagash is literally the size of the other battle forces in terms of points. Without nagash it's about 50 points less than the stormcast box. Something is fishy when the points per dollar ratio is this off.
>>98883351Are you gonna spam this in every half relevant thread? Is this some new marketing gimmick gw is trying out?also why did you post it in the wfg and twg threads hours before this one, got them all riled up about us again lol
>>98883461Schizo, meds. This place has been irrelevant for years, back when GW cared the mega would get taken down.
>>98883461Also, again, meds, because if anywhere is the place to talk about the battle force for age of sigmar, it's the age of sigmar general.
Which Death army does Nagash like the most and which does he like the least?
>>98883512>Most: OBR, they're his pet project and most loyal>least: probably SBGL now since he knows Mannfred and Neferata are scheming cunts that want to overthrow him and
>>98883512Tomb Kings for both answers
>>98883455Iirc nighthaunt generally just have pretty good point per dollar ratios, their shit doesn't look like it but it's all pretty elite. But the models are not that much plastic so the price in money is still reasonable.For example all the melee infantry in the box are 60 bucks while being between 190-200 points. For comparison with some other decently elite 10 man infantry blocks; arboyds are 160, chaos warriors are 180, barrow guard are only 130. All of which cost more than $65.Also the dreadblades are a respectable 120 points. But because they're a weird ERB two man cav unit they're only 32 bucks. Gore gruntas, by comparison, are 160 points for 94 bucks! If gruntas were pointed like dreadblades they'd be like 350 or something.Also nagash is absurd value. Because he's relatively old for a centrepiece he's not as expensive as you might think. Tahlia for example is slightly more expensive than him, but in terms of points she's not even half (350 vs 750). Tldr nighthaunt have some really good value units and they're like all in this box.
>>98883522>>98883527Does he not get irritated by the constant chattering of bones? Or the football matches where they use one of their skulls as the ball?
>>98883543I imagine that they're designed pretty well and don't make that much noise. The bones also sometimes flow, right? The big crawler thing is probably noisy as hell though.
>>98883503>he thinks it was gw that got the mega taken down Lmfao
>>98883325The issue?
>>98883522wouldnt it be nighthaunt least ? since hes got like the least control over them as far as i recall
>>98883564I guess he can disintegrate them if they make too much noise.>>98883710They're terrible conversationalists too. Very mopey.
On the Warcom article they list all alternate builds for pigs, but don't mention building the chaos lord as Eternus. Taking a look at the sprues, it seems like the Eternus kit is like an upgrade sprue for the regular chaos lord; I'm gonna go ahead and say theres a reasonable chance this box does not build Eternus. >>98881297>double
>>98884029Would be a first to not so I would presume you're wrong
>>98883351>guaranteed getting squattedby rob the honest wargamer? lmao
>>98884081The communist grifter
>>98884029https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GDr-eyhsSMthe lance and hammer weapons is clearly on the second sprue with all the eternus bits you faggot
>>98883541>Iirc nighthaunt generally just have pretty good point per dollar ratios, their shit doesn't look like it but it's all pretty elite. But the models are not that much plastic so the price in money is still reasonable.They're a horde army and you can't convince me otherwise. If not mostly because it's literally all foot troops or the worst looking cavalry you've ever seen next to the coolest cavalry that GW refuses to make good.
>>98883665nothing he’s just being a child
>>98882282>Ejaculatorlol
>>98884142You're obviously blind? Look again before you start name calling
>>98883710Pretty sure he made Lady O to run the show on top of his usual dickery. Nighthaunt and FEC seem more like the hunting dogs, just let them loose and don't expect anything much.
Evens I beat my meat Odds I listen to some aos audio books while thinking about how I could be beating my meat Trips I do both.
What are the dimensions on the city of ash terrain? Specifically just the corner wall segments
>>98884370Who are these characters I want sex with the left one
>>98884381Is that not supposed to be Galen and doralia
>>98884370Get to it, sicko.
>>98884101qrd? I'm guessing he said something like it's a shame warhammer is price hikes when profits are up and wages down or something? What an evil bastard
>>98884467Pretty much. He's always whinging about wages and companies trying to make profit. Which is annoying as is, but he also kicked out a tenant by being scummy too and doing all the same things he complains about.
>>98878908>Is it all worth watching if I'm not a KO fan?No. The girlboss main character is incredibly shitty and immoral in a grimderp way. Literally gives no fucks about her subordinates and recklessly gets them killed without reprimand.>What other factions are in it?Skaven are fought in the cold open. Stormcast Eternals soon, maybe. The first episode is fighting a evil cloud.
What happens now
>>98884620Women being terrible in command.Many such cases
>>98884286Nta but he's right. Eternus' glaive in the top right next to the hammer, lance in the bottom. Eternus is not an upgrade sprue or whatever
>>98884781nta nta but why not just correct him instead of being a cunt about it.
>>98884789You know anons like to be catty on here, it is what it is.
>>98879491No Sylvaneth tome either
>>98884845We've had sylvaneth for months now no?
>>98884606That's terrible. I hope the battleforces cost more this year, heck just scrap the discount for them. GW deserve more just to own the communists like this Rob faggot.
>>98884845Sylvaneth BT: https://gofile.io/d/rjLjRsC2
>>98883351>something is guaranteed getting squattednighthaunt are getting fyred into gravelords
>>98884913Sacrosanct need someone to talk to.
Newfag here, which of the Xmas battleforces are actually a good foundation for an army? As in they work well together?And bonus points if you could reasonably combo them with a spearhead.
Map from the 5th edition core book(Yes it's blurry as fuck)
>>98884796>>98884789>>98884781I actually was just going to gaslight the other anon for a little bit without actually looking at the sprue, if they came back and freaked out more I would just keep insisting there was a bit 43 next to the sprue gate they couldn't see.
>>98885066Thank you, James. I mean, mr Leaker with 1980s camera.
>>98885066I generated this with chatgpt
>>98885066Cathay for AoS confirmed
>>98884990CoS, Nurgle, slaves, nighthaunt are great boxes. Stormcast is a particularly bad box because it only has one unit of the annihilator build options. Orruks needs to be talked about more - iti s middling, because there's minimal unit variety and a mix of desirable and older models, but the units are all good in games. However, the box consists of only 8 models which can seem discouraging to start a new army, the points (alongside the stormcast box) are on the lower end, and some people have always taken issue with the appearance of the gore grunta model regardless of how good the stats are. Unlike stormcast, where I'd blanket recommend you steer away, this is more of a conditional recommendation for someone who is very happy with the low model count and genuinely likes the way the orcs look and play (which is an aggressive melee army). Also, you'll have to pick up at least one, maybe more, Warchanters, and the spearhead doesn't have much synergy with this box; if you can find an old Ironjawz Start Collecting! Box from a couple years prior that's the perfect companion to this box.
>>98885113>Stormcast is a particularly bad box because it only has one unit of the annihilator build options.Wait it's the ETB kit twice and only one full one? Holy shit.
>>98885117No, anon is wrong
>>98885113>and the spearhead doesn't have much synergy with this boxWhat does besides the warchanter?
>>98885117>>98885135Look at the Warcom article. Big pig is explicitly listed as "Builds Maw Gouga, Tuskboss, or Maw Gouga with hacking crew". Now look at this, where they explicitly mention which build options the box has. Considering elsewhere they specify when you have options, and here they do not...
>>98885138>>98885113NTA, idk the meta for Ironjawz. But I've seen people irl running pigs and what I think was infantry from their spearhead box together irl. Is it that bad? We kinda run more of fun/what we rhink looks cool lists at my LGS for AoS and 40K. Just curious.
>>98885066
>>98885160>>98885138From what I've seen the IJ that start to mass pigs seem to keep doing it while the infantry heavy builds seem to focus on that. I haven't played IJ since 3e though, and the last time I saw them in a game was two weeks ago and it was someone who was playing all pigs. Warchanters are pretty mandatory for all IJ lists though. >>98885158Why are the options listed for only this kit and none of the others >>98885117>>98885135 genuinely not sure if that was an omission or they really did specify for a reason
>>98885158that doesn't track, the ones with grandhammer only come out of the full multikit so they can always be built as the other ones, while if the ones with shield and hand weapon came from the etb ones from dominion then they would have come with a bunch of other shit in the original sprue and not be showcased by models from the multipart kit.
The picture might be fake but the models shown aren't the ETB ones
>>98885170the multipart kit doesn't even have the various options on separate sprues, in the far fetched hypothesis of them wanting to omit the extra optionsthe people who compiled the article just looked at the stock photo of the box and wrote the options to be sure because they most likely don't know stormcast products either but it can only possibly be the full kits
>>98885164deep fry it further with bots, go ahead, choke your arteries in slop
>>98885110I think this was supposed to be one of those background blurb artworks
>>98885164AW LAWD DEM LAST WORLD
>>98885158The full multipart annihilators (which are the ones in the picture) have the grandhammers and shields on the same sprues.The dominion ETB annihilators share their sprues with a bunch of other shit. It can't be them. Like >>98885177 said it's likely that the intern just wrote the post based on what he saw in the image.
>>98885066Alright so this is clearly made up of the great parch on the left and chamon's crux on the right. The land inbetween is what's left of the gnaw area. This checks out with existing rumours, as one of the new continents is supposed to be aqshy+chamon+ghur. (The other big one being ghyran+shyish, and hysh being its own thing)The big skaven icon in the middle corresponds to hexeneste, which again is mentioned in the rumours. The big sigmarite icon is hammerhal, which is again roughly in the same place as it currently is.I also make out kharadron, khazalid and possibly lumineth symbols.I don't know what the bell-shaped icons are supposed to be. Minor sigmarite cities? Stormcast holds?Assuming this is legit, this is overall pretty huge news despite being so blurry and not givint away too much info. Confirms the theory that the new map will (at least in large part) be made up of the most important regions of each realm, which we have maps for currently. The great parch, realmspire crux, everspring swathe, ghurish heartlands, etc.
>>98885066AI hit the 4chan community worse than crack hit the ghetto
>>98885254Can the mods move this discussion to /TLW/ No need for this hostile conspiracy theory here
>>98885254I think it's very inconsiderate of GW to create a single combined realm when I've been very clear that I don't want that.
>>98885164Sorry my eyes only hurt just a little bit if you could make it so when I open this image I get an immediate seizure that would be great
>>98885263Single world doesn't bother me at all honestly, as long as they keep the general realms as they are which they seem to be doing if we're considering the map as real for the sake of argument.
>>98885280It does when they said there’s a whole bunch of shit in the realms but now it was actually just a single continent for all of them I guess
>>98884677you can say that again
>>98885066>>98885164>>98885262I can’t wait for this BS to finally and actually be revealed already so people can shut up about it
>>98885254According to Boole:>To the west are CoS and two Stormkeeps>In the middle are Skaven, KO, and Khazalid>To the east is HoH>In the southeast corner, LRL sits alone on its own continent, and right next to LRL, a corner of FEC is peeking out from another continent
>>98885208>>98885177>>98885170Thanks for clarifying and explaining that to me, Im a little leery of GW conning unwary buyers one way or another with these discount boxes. When I started in 2e/3e there were a lot of these partial kits without a command unit or build options. Anyway, the box goes from "don't buy at all" to "still pretty bad" for me based on that, but 9 Grandhammer annihilators is definitely something you can build into a list.
>>98885305>so people can shut up about ityou'll be the first and the last to have hypocritical fake-grog tears about the mortal realms for the decade to come
apparently Khazalite Holds are getting split again according to boole Fyreslayers are independent and get a massive wave of 5+ kits
>>98885322too obvious
>>98885322>IzraelReally?
>>98885329The UK government mandates Israel acknowledgement by native companies, even in fictional fantasy contexts.
>>98885066please don't share leaks boole didn't make it's dangerous for him
>>98884990You can buy 2x of the Slaves to Darkness one, only thing you'd have a needless extra of is the lord.
>>98885345the lord has an alt build anyway
Look I just want to be able to build armies out of random crap
>>98885352would be nice, but gw hates this type of fun for whatever reason. id be genuinely tempted to do a kazalite coalition force of fyreslayers + kh + KO but chances are it be very restrictive of units and removed in the next edition anyways.
>>98885352did you do so when that was an option?
>>98885356>chances are it be very restrictive of units and removed in the next edition anyways.There's no restriction to the units in the army of renown.
>>98885350Oh yeah, I forgot
>>98885322>>98885329Sigmar promised them a faction 3000 years ago.
>>98885352>Eldritch Council >Swifthawk Agents I hope TOW gets more stuff for them
>>98885360if it stays that way in the next edition might considerate it then fkn magmadroth flanked by ironclade and peacekeeper cannons bezerkers and clan shields sounds pretty good to me
>>98885385>TOW>introducing new unitsif it's not something dredged up from a videogame or old artwork it's not happening
>>98885389>if it stays that way in the next editionthen you'll get cold feet on fears it might go away in the next edition and so on and onjust do it
>>98885110Looks more Qing Dynasty-inspired than the Tang/Ming designs of Cathay
>>98885066Looks like I might be stepping away from the game permanently, which leaves me feeling very melancholic. I've always been a devout follower of 'play whatever edition you like best' but with so many changes that seem to be looming to the game/lore/feel and I personally feel the battleforces are very lack lustre.I'm just not interested in a 'single world' over realms no matter how they spin it, we already have decades worth of the old world for that and the old world is available doing old world things. We have an incredible line up of of 'new' AoS forces right now, and the battleforces just don't touch on the incredible new models they put out. I know that from a business perspective they can't put ALL the new models in them every year, but some of the older sets where brimming with what I'd think were 'interesting' mixes of models that felt like a good hook to get people to sink into a new range of models, excite someone into a new range, or to get someone collecting AoS for the first time. These just feel like what ever they had too much stock off kicking around the warehouse, with very few standout centrepiece models. The nurgle one is the best of a bad bunch, the chaos one is the same sort of chaos one we've seen year after year but with no stand out dragon/beast model included. CoS feels devoid of any real cool factor, just being the same models (though I guess its got a good theme and they are nice models). Nighthaunt is ok but seeing Nagash is a 8th Ed WFB model, and I highly suspect by including him they are going to get rid of him in 6 months time. The stormcast one is really embarrassing.I just don't know if I'd want to keep playing the edition I do like, when even so they are going to be focusing on new lore/models/factions/games that focus on this single world concept. It sounds like they want to cater to the crowd that spent years complaining about AoS, mostly for it not being 'the old world' setting.
>>98885410This nigga effrotposting over AI conspiracy theories
>>98885410considering this is like the 3rd ironjawz, slaves to darkness. cities and nighthaunt battleforce we've seen in the history of the releases i imagine its more chosen on what they think will sell rather than clearing old stock but look we havent seen how this will pan out. i imagine its going the way of dnd where its got a material plane but then other planes which exist alongside it that can be travelled to. i feel this would be the best of both worlds, to have a central point for factions to fight over whilst keeping that weirdness and expansiveness of the mortal realms. to be honest the name 'the last world' appears to me as the worst idea of everything rumouredno need for this dumb doomerism anon
>>98885410Okay, RexHavoc.
>>98885410you will not be missed
Not really a good painter I usually try to follow tutorials. Why does it seem like a vast majority of tutorials just use contrast paint? I prefer the idea of base/layer + wash. Is that phased out of fashion? Is contrast just so much better that almost everyone does it and I'm just retarded and can't find the appeal?
>>98885443>Why does it seem like a vast majority of tutorials just use contrast paint?because it's a popular and useful tool>Is contrast just so much better that almost everyone does it and I'm just retarded and can't find the appeal?yesit's not the miracle paint that gives you base, shadow, and highlight, it was first paraded around as, but it's a very useful replacement for a normal base before you go for further layers and highlights, or an alternative way to shade a model after you've nailed its main flat colors if you just want to dip your models into a wash after a base, I don't see why you would look for tutorials to begin with
>>98885443Using contrast as a base coat is like 10x faster and easier than using normal base paints. It's not even really about the contrast effect, it's the fact that you can just slap them on like a wash and they're ready for more advanced work.
>>98885443>Is that phased out of fashion?no, its just not...how to say this...not as profitable as a youtuber? basically the type of people going for tutorials are the type of people who are lacking skill and looking for a quick easy solution. contrast promises a 1 paint solution, just slap on one coat and you're done, so it appeals to sort of the lowest common denominator painter looking for a tutorial but not necessarily someone who's willing to put in the hard work to actually get a good looking model. there are some tutorials that incorporate contrast but then finish with proper brushwork, and those are different. they tend to use the contrast more like a strong glaze or wash as just part of the process rather than a 1 paint solutionultimately though, contrast is generally worse results than a traditional method assuming both parties know what they're doing, but contrast can appear better than traditional at the absolute bottom rungs of the skill ladder.
>>98885469>if you just want to dip your models into a wash after a baseNo I layer and apply washes where it makes sense
>>98885391Swifthawk already got a new hero thoughbeit
>>98885066I truly hope this shit flops so hard
Silent People, clearly.
>>98885497old artwork
>>98885509if the last world flops gw isn't going to go back to the mortal realms but to the old world alone
Someone posted on TGA an image of one of the rumoured new human faction in the Last World: The Kingdom of Lorennar. They are supposed to be a chivalric nation at war with fec so of course GW decided to make them look woke with turd hairstyle.
>>98885543TOW is barley afloat as is
>>98885559>turd hairstyle.Can't unsee. Literally a shit emoji for hair. Goddamn.
>>98885533Kinda glad we didn’t get that then. Looks boring, and bad. Even by high elf standards.
>>98885559one excuse as any other to explain why the scavenged gear fec use looks like that
>>98885543Good. That'll teach everyone
>>98885543Can’t wait to see how they manage to make the old world even more boring
>>98885585?
>>98885585She has the dubious honor of being the last resin release.
>>98885604>>98885608
>>98885599It's gonna be when they start to do historic empire kits like solar auxillia for the heresy, theres gonna be three separate basic troops that are hyper specific and autistic
>People still think TLW is reallol, lmao even
>>98885312>Dwarfs & rats fighting over a karak in a peak>"Good" elves have their own special little island that is circular>Chaos in the north
>>98885599>everyone in the hordes of chaos is now written with the same chaos-hating mentality as archaon and abaddon, as strong independent noble savages who don't need to bend to no god>except asvar kul, who's instead written like horus, and he's the one who orchestrates the great war to enslave the undivided warriors under the 4 gods and force the birth of the real everchosen, archaon>it's not magnus the pious or engra deathsword who kills asavar, instead it's miao ying, but she tells magnus to take credit so he looks more charismatic to the rest of the empire as he reunifies it>also it wasn't just teclis and his bros who founded the colleges of magic, it was also and mainly the cathayans actually, you see, for they're better suited at teaching humans than elves >news from kislev: bears, ice, bears, bears, bears, ice, snow, cold, bears, ice, ice, bear, ice, snow, magic ice, magic bear, iceberg, ice bear, cold broads, bear hands, bears, ice>with the death of louen orc slayer the queen takes command of bretonnia for this historical period, but even though she was written off the annals of history she was the real reason why louen's rule was second only to gilles le breton >morghur dies offscreen
>>98885632>historic empire kitslollmao3 more cathay waves!
>>98885410yeah. 4e ruined the game, 5e will ruin the lore/worldbuilding.
>>98885636They believed and still think that slaanesh was going to be killed. You have to understand the level of absolute retard that posts in this general has literally never been seen before
>>98885685>They believed and still think that slaanesh was going to be killed.It was absolutely true, until GW walked back on it.If you want to point at a schizo you have to mention kragnos and malasya.
>>98885677Soon we’ll have all the Chaos AoS kits when the game fails from TLW so hooray.
>>98885677what i've gotten so far of the cathay stuff has been a lot of fun, i could definitely be down for more cathay waves
>>98885701Was it as bad to assemble as they say?
is GW imploding?
>>98885713no, the world is
>>98885693>it was absolutely true >source: my ass
>>98885713GW only gets more filthy rich every year, so no. They suck, but they're raking in money hand over fist.
>>98885702yes.i've been hobbying since 2002. it was probably thee worst kit i've ever had to put together. it looks great when its done but be ready for a battle and dryfit EVERYTHING first. even the stuff that seems obvious. there are lots of parts where its just flat on flat floating connections with no pegs or slots or socketsthere are parts that are straight up missing from the instructions or the instructions are labeled wrong (one of the thumbs on the staff hand i remember had this issue)the instructions themselves are bad black and white photocopy looking instructions instead of the newer colored high quality style.there's a whole internal rock skeleton thats completely invisible once assembled, burried under all the latticework segments, that makes it very difficult to fit the latticework segmets over top of.sections are just split up into needlessly high amount of pieces like each calf being an 8 way vertical split piece like a banana with 2 layers of peel. its worth the effort, its really cool, but it fights you the whole way. the weirdest thing though? nothing else in the cathay range is like this. miao ying? took 5 minutes to put together no problem. the cannons? easy. everything else was a breeze, its just the sentinel that was a problem.
>>98885730Damn. And then you have to worry about painting the parts beneath the gaps as well.
>>98885315It's technically a really good box for value but that's only because gw inflates the fuck out of foot characters. Also annihilators are cool but they're cheap online because of dominion + do you really want 3 of em?I get that it's a thematic box for the army of renown, but I can definitely see this one being a shelfwarmer. Especially since stormcast players will have a new launch box to play with in half a year anyway.>>98885322Too obvious but did make me chuckle
>>98885738>painting the parts beneath the gaps as well.you wont be able to if you wait till its assembled. they're fairly deep in there, and also the gaps in the lattice are so narrow that you pretty much cant see them even if you painted them brightly, its not like something like the helsmiths bull mechs where the internal energy part is just below the iron grate, its obscured so much its probably not worth the effort to try to paint them. i would just hit the under stone with primer or whatever your surface material color is and forget about it. its a cool idea, the internal magical energy stone that powers the golem, but once its put together you really cant see it at all.
>>98885693Fuck off vietnamese fyreslayers are real
>>98885753if the box has the full version of annihilators its a slightly better proposition since hammer annihilators are what most people want to run anyways, and the dominion ones are stuck with shields which get +1 save but deal somewhere in the ballpark of 50% less damage. that said, putting 3 sets of annihilators in a single deal box strongly suggests to me that annihilators are on the chopping block
>>98885254Kinda, though it could also be the new map of Aqshy with the stupid rat continent.DID YOU REALLY THINK WE'D ESCAPE AQSHY, WE'RE STILL IN THE GNARLWOOD.
>>98885693I think going off of random meta shit vs the setting itself constantly involving and talking about slaanesh is just as schizophrenic
>>98885773The real trick is buying paladins for dirt cheap and running them as the grandhammer variant>>98885778The leftmost part is definitely capilaria and just the general parch, you can see the mountain range depicted. I guess the gnaw *could extent* all the way to the east but I think it's just the middle part. The esstern part looks to much like a vortex like the crux to be a coincidence imo
>>98885764So much effort in the assembly for no reason.
How is the last world supposed to work when half the realms conflict with each other literally or metaphysically. Like, Ghur would just simply eat all the other continents, Chamon is utterly fucking fucked it’s just fucked up realmspheres, Hysh and Ulgu are literally the sun and moon I don’t understand how you turn that into a landmass. Thinking about this in any direction it’s really dumb
>>98885805They’re going to turn Shyish into the warp
>>98885805erm, the realms will suddenly work completely different to fit whatever the corpo overlords want
>>98885805The same way how X was always there. An asspull.
>>98885805Ghur is now Nu-Lustria, Hysh Nu-Ulthuan etc. GW is listening to TWW secondaries who’ll never buy an OW model let alone an AoS one. It’s stupid
>>98885783yeah, idk. the paladins are alright but i think i still prefer the annihilators, but the reclusians blow them both out of the water, so if im gonna buy elite stormcast its probably gonna be reclusians
>>98885829>squat sacrosanct to get rid of redundant units>4e:
>>98885805something something the natures of the realms balance each other something something>ghur tries to eat its neighbours but its neighbors are ghyran and shyish, so they just regrow the lost lands, or more underworlds simply emerge from beneath the wavesor those characterisations remain at the land level (trees, mountains, rivers, etc), but not at the continental level as for the sun I'm crossing my fingers over the idea that ignax gets chained again and forced to be the sun of this new solar system
>>98885820>GW is listening to TWW secondariesThat might be part of it but I don't think that's the whole story. I mean even though it's been over a decade, a lot of the senior creatives in the studio cut their teeth working on WHFB and 40k. A lot of the junior writers probably got acquainted with WHFB before AoS launched. It wouldn't surprise me if at least some of these people share a lot of the kneejerk misgivings about the setting that the fake grogs do. And even if they don't, there's something to be said about teaching new tricks to old dogs. When people who worked on an old product are working with a similar mandate to develop a similar product in a way that appeals to more or less the same target demographic, the results are likely gonna end up looking familiar.
>>98885782>involving and talking about slaaneshyeah, by introducing a plotline in 40k that involves a slaanesh killer, and a plotline in aos where slaanesh is helpless, as well as mistakenly leaving malekith's crown instead of slaanesh's symbol in one instance, and also mistakenly leaving a description of malekith calling him a chaos godonly meta shit, of course, gw would have never considered it, gw is flawless and never cancel or change plans as we all knowplenty of sources prove this was never a possibility too
>>98885846And now AoS will die off, and OW will endlessly tail spin with the TK -> Chaos -> Cathay -> TK release cycle endlessly while other factions starve.
>>98885820>Ghur is now Nu-Lustriaghur would be the badlands and mountains of mourn, which funnily enough already had the whole "every mountain and land feature tries to eat everything around"lizards craft their own not!lustria landmass, according to rumors
>>98885860Cathay was intended to be a launch faction against kislev, so its no wonder theyve had a wave and a half
>>98885608No, that was Krawlmar in the Beastmen release
>>98885868>Cathay>against kislevdon't be retarded now
>>98885860>Endlessly twiceI’m retarded have WIP
>>98885814You need to get over this shit how are you comparing factions hiding in a post apocalypse setting with “yeah so the sun is just right there on earth even though we’ve said hysh and ulgus equilibrium is foundation to the universe itself
Assuming it’s true, could sigmar just pull the continents out of the realms instead of collapsing the realms together? So the realms stay there just sans a continent in the stable middle of the realm
>>98885852When did you start reading Warhammer? Because baby’s first “dropped” plot point is this mentally buck breaking you? >introducing a plotline in 40k that involves a slaanesh killerYou mean a faction in the setting has win condition? What the fuck? this has never happened before >and a plotline in aos where slaanesh is helplessOkay so chaos gods can’t do anything but win or winning got it
>>98885880and now the shattered remains of ulgu and hysh that didn't form a continent on the last world are the foundation to the universe itself and resting in the sky as its sun and moonoooohhhhh, so difficult, so scary uuuuhhhh
>>98885899If either of these stop spinning the setting itself stops point blank
>>98885880Sigh
>>98885872The initial concept art for TOW was kislev, because it was *checkes notes* excatly how they were in total war people threw bitchfits and Gw pivoted.
>>98885897A better question is when did you start reading? Because it's obvious you're not good at it, or at writing.
>>98885909No, gw pivoted because russia began a war in ukraine, in any case it wouldn't have been against cathay, it was always going to be against chaos.
>>98885880The biggest sin you could do to a Warhammer fan is not talking about Glup Shitto
>>98885905cool source you got there
>>98885829Damn shame I'd have to buy them not as part of skaventide to get the much cooler weapon options.It's never gonna happen but you know.
>>98885880>in a post apocalypse settingI hate this descriptor for aosthe apocalypses matter jack shit if they happen so far back that civilisation bounced back to its previous levels or even higher ones, or of there were enough safe havens for people to just walk back out and start rebuilding with no significant degradation to their people and culture
>>98885897nta but I really want to hear your mental gymnastics why the slaanesh head isn't on Archaon's horse. Could use a good laugh.
>>98885941$60 for 3 models is a pretty big ask. if i hadnt gotten my ironjawz ragers as part of a discounted deal box last year i dont think i would have ever bought them on their own, despite being cool models. just gets to a point where the asking price is way too steep for what you get
>>98885870Too annoying to verify with GW's shitty websites. One of the last at any rate.
>>98885329>>98885322low effort
you couldn't make this up>"our customers say the realms are too complex, they don't understand what all the space in between the realms is, but they like the bits that have been fleshed out in maps and books.">"okay, so we could either flesh out more of the world ooooooor...just delete all the space in between"geniuses at GW
>>98886002you need to understand that their customers are marinepigs
>>98885312>>98885336Boole cucked…
>>98886002>"our customers say"no one in charge of anything at GW has ever said this.
>>98886002>we could either flesh out more of the worldthey haven't done that in 10 years, they wouldn't manage to do that in 30 morethe way gw is compartmentalised nowadays makes it almost impossible for a setting to be written up organically or for worldbuilding to be the goal of any of their projects
>>98885321What does that even mean
>>98885917Who’s the glup in this context
>>98885701I really, really dislike how boring the Cathay looks. I was hoping the third party market would be better but of course everyone is mimicking gws sterile adaptation of China.
>>98885636I mean it is real, but it’s clear all the silliest stuff is thus far doomer/TOWdler wishful thinking.
>>98886036>start off with the most doomer interpretation possible>as more information releases over time it doesn't turn out to be as drastic>existing userbase now not nearly as upset about changes because they were expecting far worseGw has added some new lines to their playbook I see
>>98885950The necroquake was an apocalypse The dark skies was an apocalypse The vermindoom was an apocalypse Did you forget chaos won AoS already? Like literally won so hard that all they had left to do was kill each other while the realms fell into the realm of chaos and Aqshy was about to get kidnapped by Khorne
>>98886085The leakers were pretty upfront since the start that the TLW stuff is really only a cosmetic lore change rather than any Model or rule changes (outside of standard edition differences) so the most Doomer interpretation of that End Times 2.0 were hushed pretty quickly
>>98886098that doesn't address literally any of the issues underlined in my postthe great catastrophe was an apocalypse, but I don't see you or anyone else call warhammer fantasy a post apocalyptic setting 40k has more rights to be called a post apocalyptic setting but nobody is so dumb to call it that
>>98886155Nta but post-post apocalyptic might be a better term in this case.Post apocalypse carried with it the connotation that the story or setting is still dealing with the immediate aftermath of the apocalypse.Age of sigmar is already well in the point of new civilizations rising out of the ashes of the old world. The early iron age to the bronze age collapse.A horizon zero dawn type of situation to use another relatively recent pop culture example.
>>98886171The civilisations in aos went back to levels that are equal or greater than the ones that existed in the old world.You wouldn't call horizon zero dawn a post apocalyptic setting if the people in there grew back to the same tech level as the people before the apocalypse.
>>98886171Old world as in the age of myth, not *the* Old World>you wouldn't call horizon zero dawn a post apocalyptic settingNo I wouldn't, I would call it a post-post apocalyptic setting. Which I did.
>>98886203Whoops, meant for >>98886184
>>98886226>>98886226>>98886226
>>98885396those look the same to most people >>98885410what a weird thing to say
>>98886203>Old world as in the age of mythazyr is literally untouched since the age of myth, and many other cultures haven't received significant setbacks either out of all of these alleged apocalypsesyou wouldn't call horizon zero dawn post apocalyptic if humans came from a still perfectly intact pre-apocalypse nation.
>>98885772I thought the argument was Magmadroths or whatever
>>98886252So? Is 28 days later not apocalyptic because the rest of the world is fine?99% of aos takes places outside of azyr.>>98886252>you wouldn't call horizon zero dawn post apocalyptic if humans came from a still perfectly intact pre-apocalypse nationThis is basically the plot of the (shitty) tv show "the 100" and it is called exactly that, post-apocalyptic.
>>98885913The idea of that being the reason is very funny
>>98885805>>98885814>>98885820>>98885839>>98885865>>98885880>>98885895>>98885899>>98885905>>98886002The way to look at it is probably that the most powerful entities in the setting are going to carve out their own spheres of influence where reality is what they say it is. The newly formed world is basically the Allpoints in one big construct. Or something.
>>98885489>>98885483>>98885469>>98885443The vast majority of the paint tutorials I see use exclusively traditional paints. A very small number of the videos my algorithm shows me are contrast whatsoever and I watch probably a half dozen hours of painting videos a week. The tutorials you see are based on your algorithm's perception of what you like. The more you follow and like traditional painting tutorials the more you will see what you want to see.
