Yu-Gi-Oh! General #617"scammed by tewart again" EditionPrevious thread: >>98842597Most Yu-Gi-Oh! discussion encouraged. Post OC, write dumb fanfics with bad CaC in them, duel each other, have fun, etc.>Yu-Gi-Oh! Online PlayAutomated Sims:●EDOPro: https://projectignis.github.io/●YGO Omega: https://omega.duelistsunite.org/●Dueling Nexus: https://duelingnexus.com/●Master Duel: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1449850/YuGiOh_Master_Duel/Manual Sims:●DuelingBook: https://www.duelingbook.com/>TCG Event Streaming●NA: https://www.youtube.com/user/OfficialYuGiOhTCG●EU: https://www.youtube.com/YuGiOhCardEU>Alternative Formats●Official: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/play/alternate_format_tournaments/●Time Wizard Formats Reference: https://www.formatlibrary.com/●Genesys: https://www.yugioh-card.com/en/genesys/>Useful Links●Current Official Rulebook: https://img.yugioh-card.com/en/downloads/rulebook/SD_RuleBook_EN_10.pdf●Wiki: https://yugipedia.com/wiki/Yugipedia●Probability Calculator: https://yugioh.otterlord.dev●Database: https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/●Database (for boomers): https://www.pojo.biz/board/forumdisplay.php?f=10>Decklists●OCG: https://roadoftheking.com●TCG: https://ygoprodeck.com/>News Sites●OCG: https://yugioh-starlight.com/●TCG: https://ygorganization.com/>Upcoming ReleasesOCG:●Immortal Phoenix (October 31)●Revolution Booster: Cubic / Marincess / Ghostrick (November 21)●THE CHRONICLES DECK DX: Magistus (December 5)TCG:●Magnificent Maestros (November 12)●Glorious Victors (December 3)●Immortal Phoenix (January 28)>TQWhat are your thoughts on the latest emergency banlist?>TCaCFix Dark Time Wizard with up to 5 new cards.
>>98852115>Branded is now completely unplayable without its hundred dollar cards.It's unplayable period, without albion you simply cannot do your normal plays, be it fusion or synchro. I've always hated it but this was akin to banning raye in its home deck.>Lunalight lost Cross Sheep, Bagooska and Dugares so now you basically end on one Liger Dancer and nothing else.Double liger dancer and s:p or some other rank 4 is still possible, plus you no longer have to fear getting droll'd on your first search. They hit all these so you're forced to buy the new dark rebellion and ophion/karmael.But now niggiru is back, and el bandito can just tribute your win condition then gape your asshole, so the deck may as well be dead.>Pure Mitsurugi is now unplayable.It's dead. Aramasa, prayers, pre-preparation and ragged records are handtrap magnets, and end ruler needs murakumo/futsu already in hand to work.>Sky Striker looks like it got away but it still lost F&V and running Desires is more dangerous with Engage at 2 so you're going to need to replace those cards and the replacements for them are more expensive. The high end builds will probably be fine, the poverty ones are the ones that got hit.Anon, F&V was the only non-SS, non-RT quick play it ran.There is simply no replacement for a card that handled face up traps, monsters and field/continuous spells, replaced itself with another copy in the end phase, and then comboed with a extra deck monster that gave it a targeted bounce or a free body.Ultimate sky is the only other quick play you want to run, but who knows when they'll bring over utility box.
Double Liger Dancer is gay as fuck; not because of the double raigeki, but because having more than 1 copy of your deck's boss/ace monster on the field at a time is lame as shit
>>98871506>dead product on store shelvesLUHMEOW Yugioh will never be fixed until they ban every single 1 card starter (because, you know, a combo, aka COMBINATION, of cards, should require at least 2 (two) cards) and every single archetypes/decks that ends on boards with more interactions than the opponent has cards in hand at the start of the game. Until then, the banlist just cope just like Genesis is.
>>98873339You sound like an unfun faggot. Find a new hobby
>>98872763>ackshully using your archetypal cards is... LE BAD!>instead you should cram as many slop engines and generic extra deck pieces as you can, because that's what yugioh is all aboutKill yourself.I WILL summon 2 liger dancer and a dragon (that turns into an incredibly hot redhead nun) every single game, and there's nothing you can do to stop me.
>>98874434Reading comprehension fail
>>98874448You didn't explain why using multiple copies of your archetypal boss monsters was gay, if every deck had a liger dancer (unaffected towers with some other effect, SOPT) they would absolutely summon multiple of them. Quartet in bloom got shot in the head exactly because it could bring out dragoon (towers with a omni negate, SOPT) and w:p (or some other bullshit DARK monster) from the grave.
>>98874477If I need to explain it, then you are beyond help in the first place
>>98872763You're seriously implying that Kaiba having three BEWDs isn't the coolest shit?
>>98874631As another anon said above, Kaiba had three Blue Eyes. Maybe an argument could be made that Obelisk became his ace in Battle City, and he only had one copy, but he also specifically sacrificed Obelisk for Blue Eyes like twice, and a major chunk of the World of Memory arc associated Kaiba with Blue Eyes even further. If the creator of Yu-Gi-Oh says it's okay to have a playset of your ace, then it's fucking okay to have a playset of your ace.
>>98875114No, fuck off.
>>98875214I accept your concession.
>>98875216No, fuck off.
>>98875114Your argument is sound but Bagooska is banned
https://youtu.be/PJzSjJBPIT0
i will not stop complaining about the shitty TCaC prompts.
>>98871618I mean you can still play F&V in strikers. You just dump devours to search the next F&V. Its still the same going first, its just worse going 2nd now.But I mean, going 2nd in yugioh, you already have a 95% lose rate so arguably losing a set F&V on a turn 3 where you probably lost before your turn ended anyway doesn't really mean much.
>>98873339>have fun back-and-forth for 1-2 turns both players throwing both engine and handtraps trying to outplay each other until one side runs out of interruption>other side plays a single starter>"you have full combo?">"yeah">scoop and go next gamewow great nipponese game design folded over 1000 times john konami I kneel
>>98876595>95% lose rate* After pooling from an extremely low number of matches, ignoring any decks that favor going second in addition to going-second cards, and manipulating the data so that 75% instead becomes 95%
>>98876677Whew, it's only 75% lose rate, false alarm, no need to fix anything then.
>>98876360>TCaCThread Command and Conquer?Turbo Commander alt Copies?The Constant anal Coordination?
>>98876698bottom of the OP
>>98876823Are you stupid?
>>98877317are you? there hasnt been a prompt that's even remotely interesting or stimulating in months. /dng/ gets more CaC posting than this place does.
>>98877532No one even looks at those, you're just being a little bitch. Post about the game or fuck off back to that shithole.
>>98877532I'm not complaining about the (supposed) lack of good prompts I have no idea what TCaC stands for.
>>98877661Thread Create a Card>>98877641nobody looks at them because they've been bad for so long. i used to do them every thread and i wasnt the only one.
I'm not creative enough to come up with a good thread CaC prompt
>>98876695Yes. 75% from a pool of 16 players in what is effectively a fake format. You also need to play the game with your eyes closed since we've been bombarded with a metric goddamn shitton of going second goodstuff.
>>98877843Every year people use the results from Worlds to shitpost with, despite the fact that it's essentially a glorified locals
>>98876677I mean, if we're arguing casuals, albion's loss means even less. If you're running a F&V engine against a casual deck, you still shit all over it just from the value. Oh no, the value is slightly slower, not GONE, just slower.. Its still 1 card for 3. This kills most casual decks flat and strikers eats casuals for breakfast anyway
>>98877793I'm not creative enough to do anything but netdeck or use structure decks.
Most sane Super Quantfag
>>98877843Some people believe it unironically after people parrot it enough, so I like to just respond within the scope of about two to five messages in case of the off-chance they aren't trolls.
The legendary 'modern' decks will never stop being insane to me. And i like x-sabers.
>>98878817Products with Edison format reprints will always be a win in my books.
>>98871506I will write a Hecahands card instead. There are a few easy bullshit ways I could think of for Dark Time Wizard, but I will choose to write a Hecahands card instead.The Invisible Hecahands>[Field Spell]When this card is activated: You can add 1 "Hecahands" card from your Deck to your hand. During your turn, while you control a monster that is originally owned my your opponent, you can activate your "Hecahands" monster effects as Quick Effects. Once per turn, during the End Phase: You can tribute 1 monster you control that is originally owned by your opponent; Special Summon 1 Illusion monster from your hand or GY.I off-handedly mentioned it last thread, but I feel like the one thing they're really lacking is spell speed 2 effects. Making their SS1 effects conditionally become SS2 effects during your own turn is probably fine. A constant monster reborn effect to keep their field a little more sturdy, too.
so i barely play ygo these days but i occasionally buy packs just for collecting cards, so my knowledge on current meta and all that is very surfacewith all the doom and gloom about banlists this and OCG that i thought to myself, would a commander style alternative mode maybe work for ygo?99 card decks, no duplicates and an always ready commander monster that has to be level 10 or higher surely there needs to be more rules set in place since magics commander format works as you slowly gain power as you accumulate lands but ygo lets you power play from the get goso maybe a you only get to play / activate X amount of cards corresponding to your turn?surely other people thought of this many times already and im just late to the whole discussion
>>98880263There is Domain format 60 Card singleton. You can only include monsters in your deck that correspond to your commanders attribute, type or archetype also any of the previous it mentions
>>98879759I mean thats fair. But then why didn't they squeeze in wayne and gardestrike?
>tournament attendance still in the gutter after the ban listLUHMEOW Good. Keep boycotting this abomination of a card game until they fix it and it's actually fun to play. They need to learn that the west is different; that we're not as autistic as japanese players and we actually want to have interaction and fun while playing the card game.
>>98879800I like the idea of a Babel for the hands, I would maybe make the EP trigger read more like this:>Once per turn, during the End Phase of any turn in which you tributed a monster(s) owned by your opponent: You can Special Summon 1 Illusion monster from your hand or GY.that way if you tribute off their monster for Jauzah or Bait you can still get value out of the field spell.
>>98877793just make them more specific and include some sort of constraint. here's a free example>With the rise of Angelechy at the last YCS, many Light and Darkness Ritual players are playing Spell Shattering Sword as a maindeckable form of Spell removal. Other decks don't have this luxury; design a piece of Spell removal that most decks would be willing to maindeck that doesn't autowin the matchup.
>>98878484>talents is at 3 in ocgHoly fuck what are they doing?? This is one of the most miserable cards to have played against you
>>98880929What, you're not having fun playing against chess? Oh by the way you've already posted once in this reply chain so you can't respond to my post :)
>>98879759Ah yes, the famously well beloved in Edison deck of X-Sabers lmao>>98880806Because those cards are so fucking trash that not even X-Saber players will touch them
>>98881347>Ah yes, the famously well beloved in Edison deck of X-Sabers lmaoYes. X-Sabers is a Edison legal deck. Granted, you can't use the newer X-Saber support in Edison format, but the vast majority of the X-Saber cards in The legendary modern decks are Edison legal.
>>98881359Lame retard
>>98881374Oh, are you crying because of X-Saber's hand rip effects? Is that it?
>>98881347Doomcal Cat got 3rd place at SJC Edison. X-Saber cards are core part of the format's history.
>>98881396Wrong retarded ESL
>>98881347>Ah yes, the famously well beloved in Edison deck of X-Sabers lmaoAre you implying that X-Sabers aren't a Edison legal deck? If so, then you're wrong. X-Sabers is Edison legal.https://formatlibrary.com/decktypes/x-saber?format=edison
>>98878484>>98881324One thing I never understood is why talentsfags only ever seem to use the draw effect. There are so many scenarios where using the Change of Heart effect would've won games against me, and the handrip seems like a more generically applicable effect than drawing 2 cards. I understand when they have total bricks in their hand, but that's seemingly not the case the majority of the time a talentsfag draws 2 cards.
>>98881424you dont have to sign your posts here anon
>>98876643>"you have full combo?">"yeah">they were lying and won a game they were dead to rights in
>>98881347Trash or not, they are kinda expensive. Wayne has some slim potential to be actually useful in a combo. Gardestrike is a level 5 body, having more flexible levels is always good. Heck gardestrike is prominantly featured on the new support and didnt even get a reprint in the ocg. Its wierd.
>>98881347https://formatlibrary.com/decks/494354th place at a 100 person event last year.
>>98881672So literally fucking nothing lmao
>>98881908better placement than you've ever gotten
>>98881124Good point. Rewarding a deck for doing what they're designed to do is standard these days, so giving them the rev as long as Hecahands do Hecahands things would be appropriate (possibly even weak in this day and age)
>>98880929Lil-La CUTE and Lil-La SEX
>>98877793I didn't mind the previous one, still considering how I would try to build a Scab Scar Knight archetype.
Buy Verre's deck.
>>98883332I shall.I'll import it because TCG probably won't get it.
>>98883756It's a Chronicles deck. Why in the world wouldn't the TCG get it?
>>98883332Isn't that second effect kinda good?
>>98883849idk i just wanted to post verre's fat pussy
>>98884030anon...
A Bao A Qute sex.https://exhentai.org/g/4188278/448093f48a/
>>98884030>sacrificing his magical powers in the pursuit of cunnyUnderstandable. Continue unimpeded.
So how the fuck do I build the Legendary Modern, Chronicles F&V, and Arc-V Lunalight decks now that they've been gutted? Just call it a $200 loss and work on Toons?
>>98884413Take the X-Saber cards, buy some singles online, then build a X-Saber deck for Edison format.
>>98884413Ignore the troll below you and just play an actually good non-meme deck instead
>>98884413Just like, look at what their engines lost and what can be used to replace them>Sky StrikerBasically unphased if you're doing a pure or even mostly-pure build. All they lost was a copy of Engage, which the deck puts in your hand for free. Mitsu/Sky Striker builds suffer because of a lack of Habakiri to bridge them, but Pure does not care.>MitsuIt's a tougher call since nothing short of hard-drawing into Prayers can really substitute haba search+sack saji, but you can make pure variants work with generic ritual goodstuff, and make it kinda-sorta work as a generic engine by tweaking your deck's ratios as such that Saji and/or Prayers ends up in your opening hand. I've been seeing a lot of Ryzeal Mitsu lately, it kinda just works. You can throw in sneedsmith for the sake of it.>X-SaberI don't play this deck so I can't give you good input on it.>F&V/BrandedFor the individual card, you can just replace Albion with The Dragon that Devours the Dogma for a slightly worse version of the effect. The card isn't online immediately during the next turn, but you at the very least have it in your hand for your next turn. Branded as an archetype got cucked super hard by the list. You'll wanna lean into a Synchro variant that doesn't rely heavily on Branded Fusion and do your best basically. Albaz Blanco, Ecclesia (forma Synchro)(nivel de potencia 99,999,999,999,645), all the other bullshit that goes into their Synchro-oriented variants. If you wanna make it work then you have to learn how to do stupid bullshit that your opponent can't predict unless they're toking on the same Branded opioids as you are.Or like, maybe you meant "without buying singles". In which case you build Sky Striker.
>>98884512Cheers, anon. Far more helpful than I was expecting. It seems Sky Striker is the way to go, or at least the easiest.
>>98884512Mitsurugi is completely dead as a engine now, it was splashed everywhere before BECAUSE habakiri (and thus prayers/pre-preparation/ragged records) could just perform the whole combo by itself, now you need 2 specific cards in hand to do anything.Lets take the ryzeal build as an example.>NS ice, summon ext, search sword, link into cyberse contract witch using ice and ext, send a spell as cost and add murakumoYou need prayers/ritual/end ruler in hand already to continue from here.The bridge from mitsurugi to ryzeal is also completely gone unless you run night sword serpent, as you absolutely need the normal summon for ice (or aramasa) now. That, or you just use futsu and murakumo for dragluxion, but if you do that then the trap card is dead (you could just search another prayers instead, but still). Without that third level 8 body all you get out of the mitsurugi engine, assuming everything resolves, is masquerena/hope harbinger, a seventh tachyon search and prayers.
>>98884413Maybe take this as an opportunity to leave the nest and make a deck that isn't dependent on these SDs. Im sure you can build something at this point and have learned enough about the game to make independent choices and have an archetype in mind.
>>98884949No.
>>98884030hhey that's not a fat pussy in the slightest, verre here barely has any meat in her bodytry the girl who handles her finances instead, that tight dress of hers can barely handle just how HEALTHY she is
>>98886239There are roughly 15000 cards in the game, most of which belonging to some sort of archetype, and 100s of decklists uploaded daily to public repos that has thousands already uploaded. But you can only find something to play from the roughly 100 cards over a couple archetypes that were spoonfed to you and then needed to be spoonfed further on how to tune those decks after they were touched by a banlist?I think you need to put in some effort. Even a tiny amount woild be a benefit to you. I can understand if you're a lazy deck builder but with how many public lists there are to pick from it's not much of an excuse.
>>98888615>your $200 of cards just got raped by a banlist, why not spend more moneyhmmnyo
>>98888682You're spending money either way. Sure one is more expensive but that's why you branch out into at least 1 stupid pet deck that you can hold onto for a lot longer. It helps if it was never meta because you're less likely to get hurt by bans.If a deck sees meta success your first thought should be "well shit, this might see some bans some day." Let this be a lesson and move forward.
>>98888998>1% representation for mitsurugi, even less for lunalight>both decks got hit into the ground because a deck with over 40% representation (which btw, isn't tier zero solely because people want to pretend that ROLAD with habakiri, ROLAD with azamina, and ROLAD with both are 3 different decks) abused some of their cards>sky striker (iirc 10% representation) got a slap on the wrist because branded took the hit for it (i hate that deck but this was a complete humiliation ritual)>the random hits to basically every single extra deck card with "negate" on it killed literally EVERY single petdeck out there, because they don't have archetypal negates, destruction and what have you>lol maybe next time don't play meta shit because it'll get hit lmaoYou sound like a battered wife.There's nothing wrong with sticking to structure/starter decks either, that's their entire selling point. LMD advertised itself as a budget friendly product that punched way above it's weight (just the copy of mulcharmy and purulia in it is worth a third of the price), which made it perfect for newcomers and boomers alike. KONMAI killed it in less than a year, and now people will no longer trust the western branch of the company because they can just decide to kill random archetypes/cards on a whim to push the newest product.
>>98889068>Lunalight was GUTTED and BETRAYED by Konami>How? By banning a bunch of generic cards that were actively being utilized by other decks (Cross Sheep, Bagooska, Dugares, Rivalry, Gozen, etc)Brother, just play the deck without the floodgates. It is that simple.
>>98889096He put Shifter in shit tier, he's either retarded or baiting, I wouldn't engage either way.
>>988844133800 atk towers that board wipes on quick effect and attack twice backed by s/t negate is not enough for you? I swear to god I don't understand how shit at the game you lunalight players need to be to still lose with this
Is pure Rose Dragon viable in Genesys? If no, why not?
>>98890148not released in the latest couple of sets = not viablesimple asnow go buy new cards goyim
>>98890159But my LGS doesn't even carry YGO anymore, Komoney-kun... we have to organise our own Genesys/Goat/Edison tournaments and the only reason why the shop owener doesn't just kick us out is because like 3 of the boys are also OP/MtG whales and most of us will usually buy a can of Coke before we play.
>>98890148In Genesys, yes. Probably rogue-tier. Low-cost engine (2 or 3 points for Bramble depending on how many you want to play) that can easily make an endboard with the best generic synchros in the format + Bramble Rose which still does a good amount of damage in the format.In Advanced, fuck no. It plays well into Droll but that is now at 1, but folds to fucking Nibiru, and often, a single Ash Blossom.
Are there any Genesys players in thread? I play Advanced, but I signed up for a 33 point Genesys tournament and am thinking about bringing Odion. Are there any staples/ powerful decks / gameplay considerations I should be aware of?>>98871506I like the new Banlist overall, but I don’t think it did enough. Rolad and PP/Elfnote are still the best decks, and Toon pre hits didn’t seem sufficient. Floodgate cards like Droll should either be at 3 or 0 to avoid sackiness. I also think that Konami should be quicker to unban old cards to avoid list bloat.
>>98889869I think it's meant to be more of a "necessary evil" tier list in this case rather than a "how good they are" one
>>98890541>card specifically designed to help player going 2nd counter going 1st combo slop vomit and infinitely resource loops that irreparably ruined the game>going 1st usable only in select few decks that already got neutered by banlist>completely dead past turn 1 making it's only purpose curbing the turn 1 imbalance while having no effect on the healthy grindgameThat's an elder god tier villain if I ever saw one.
>>98890640Nah, that all sounds as fake and gay as you are
>>98890739lmao shiftered & filtered
>>98890148You can do most of it but you obviously can't flex into the plant-Link if you get stopped at some point with awkward materials on board. Though the archetype hasn't demanded you play that was since their latest support.As for how meta it is, it's not close. One nice boon is that you have basically no points on the deck so you can play as much pointed things as you want.One thing to watch out for is the low cost GY hate HTs. You have a lot of GY effects.
>>98890360blitz with the chess cards is pretty much the only tier 1 deck, everything else is at best tier 2. since you're playing a low points event i wouldn't expect to see either of those. pair bear scare!! is a common 1 of just because it counters itself. gordian slicer is quite popular currently as well as the best 0 point breaker.
>>98890360If it's a 33 point limit tournament then you probably don't need to worry about most of the topping decks since you can't even run a full set of common handtraps for 33 points. Chances are that you'll just see someone's table 500 shitdeck that happens to work well in Genesys because it has 0 points (this is a good thing)
>>98893269>can't run a full set of common handtraps for 33 pointsJust say you don't play Genesys, retard.
>>98871506>no Diabellstar/Wanted hit>can replace Ilia Silvia with Zalen>1 less droll to worry aboutOne more step towards White Forest Supremacy!
>>98893451You're right, anon! This person that is joining a 33 point event clearly doesn't need to listen. Just run your 3 copies of Effect Veiler (21 points) and/or Infinite Impermanence (24 points), your 3 copies of Mulcharmy Fuwalos (24 points), DON'T FORGET TO SIDE IN 3 PURULIA (27 points for some reason), Nibiru (another 24), and don't forget Ash Blossom (54)! Surely you'll be able to build something like this thick-headed fucking numbskull is implying!
>>98873508Modern Yugioh is the opposite of fun.
>>98883332I don't think I'm ever gonna buy a YGO deck again. It's gonna get banned to dirt in six months anyway.
>>98893993That's right, we should be doing something like playing WCS 2011 and TF6 to pass the time until the TF3 remake comes out instead
>>98893780Obviously he cannot run all of the good handtraps you fucking mouthbreather. But you said he couldn't play any.
Is there any real reason why you'd play 2 Vayus in V-Turbo? I bought the deck off a dude, and he was only playing 2.
>>98894079because he couldn't afford it i guesswhy would you not run max copies of vayu in a deck called vayu turbo lmao
>>98894077Read the posts that you're replying to in full before calling people retards, retard.>>98893451>can't run a full set of common handtraps for 33 pointsYou even quoted it here yourself. A FULL SET of common handtraps. What the fuck do you think that means?
>>98894084A full playset of one card. If solebody says a set of handtraps, they are not talking about every single fucking handtrap in the game. Fucking retard.
>>98894082>couldn't afford a 1 dollar cardIf he was 1 dollar short on the full deck, why the fuck wouldn't you prioritise the namesake of the deck
>>98894089>If solebody says a set of handtraps, they are not talking about every single fucking handtrap in the game.And I wasn't talking about "a set of handtraps". I was talking about "a full set of common handtraps," which implies more than a single set of HTs. If I was being specific, like any normal person, I would just say "A set of Ash Blossoms" or "A set of Imperms." And either way, with a 33 point limit, they're almost certainly not going to have to worry about HTs in the first place.
MtG player here. Why is "hand knowledge" so powerful in YGO? My friend said if somebody looks at your hand in YGO, you could probably just scoop at that point. In MtG its like, I'd rather not reveal my hand but who gives a fuck
>>98894171The power level of decks in yugioh are so high that games don't go for much longer than 2 or 3 turns, if you go first you can easily set up like 8+ interactions, and your opponent is only going to have 6 cards in hand. Knowing exactly what those cards are means you can use your interactions to their best ability and all but guarantee you win.>opponent has 6 monsters in hand>1 of those monsters does something when it is normal summoned>the other 5 can special summon themselves but only if he controls a guy already>I have Infinite Impermanence and Compulsory Evacuation Device>he normal summons his one guy and activates his effect>since I know his hand, I Imperm and on res Compulse>he passes on nothing and I kill him>same situation but I don't Compulse>he summons the first of his 5 extenders and now my one bounce isn't enough to stop him from getting two bodies and board and going into a link 2 that lets him do his whole combo and I loseUsing two pieces of interaction on someone's first play is a bit counter-intuitive since it can feel very all in and is ripe for being punished by the right kind of extender, but if you know for a fact that it is your opponent's only reasonable play then you can feel good about doing the exact, weird move that stops them. This is especially a problem in combo heavy pile deck metas where people play decks full of one card starters that do your whole combo and just getting even one play to stick going second can be enough to break a board. People often refer to these kinds of metas as ones where we "compare hands", i.e just by looking at who has more pushes or more interruptions in the opening hand is enough to tell who is going to win. If you know what's in your opponent's hand you never have to worry about falling for bait or misusing your own cards. If you have 3 monster negates and an omni negate, you aren't going to use your omni negate on a monster when you know your opponent has a spell in hand and so on,
>>98894171The two specific examples of it that people complained about were Killer/Kewl Tune (deck that can completely lock Xyz and Synchro decks out of the game if they know to use resources setting up their level modulation)(specific levels are needed to Synchro/Xyz Summon) and Mind Scan (a card that gives you hand knowledge and lets you declare a card's name to negate the effects of cards with that name for the rest of the turn).The principle is the same. If you know what your opponent is running, and more specifically what they have in their hand, a knowledgeable player can stop anything that they're going to do from that point onward. Opponent has Ash Blossom in their starting hand (an instant-speed zero-cost card that you can negate a tutor or summon-from-deck)? Either throw out bait or declare that card with Mind Scan. Opponent is playing Branded and they have a copy of Branded Fusion in their starting hand (lets them perform a fusion summon, using monsters from their Deck as material)? Save your negates for it or declare it with Mind Scan. Opponent has a copy of Evenly Matched (ultra-exiles the entire board in a way that the majority of decks in the game cannot recover from)? Why yes, I will either be playing low to the ground or saving my negates for that card, or alternatively Mind Scan it.Some decks do not care. But in most cases, the turn 1 player getting hand knowledge can (and likely does) just kill you.
Edisonfags: give my advice for my first IRL tournament.
>>98894171View YGO decks as having 25+ 0 mana counter spells in them but the counter spells have asterisks to them, such as this one can only counter spell a tutor, this one can only counter spell an artifact, this one can only counter spell a creature with an enters effect. So when you look at your opponent's hand you know exactly which counter spells to play around. Most decks are flexible enough to have several lines but each line loses to specific forms of interruption. When you know what your opponent has you can play around it which means half of your opponent's deck now did nothing because the entire point of packing 25+ counter spells is to stop turn 1 plays and they failed to do that.
>>98894171there are less turns so you can't "draw out of" hand knowledge. once they know your hand they can play around every interaction you have until the end of the game. it stops being a pvp match and becomes something more akin to a chess puzzle.
>>98894680KNOW, not just be able to reference off the edison site, the erratas and the specific rulings for the format.Don't play too aggressive, you can take a few hits and you don't have to commit all your backrow to the field each turn. Being in person can make you lose your nerve and make you misplay vs online in a nice room at home.There's not much to say about the meta that hasn't been said already online because it's solved at this point. The only thing I can recommend is know how to play your own deck very well.Because the format is unchanging and people have been on it for a while there is going to be people that are simply better at it then you in just about every aspect. You gotta go in with the mindset that you might get BTFO and you gotta be able to keep moving without letting it get to you for several rounds.
>>98895248>KNOW, not just be able to reference off the edison site, the erratas and the specific rulings for the format.seconded, its such a drag playing against someone who has to look up the rulings every time they make a slightly complicated play. best way to make zero friends at an event is to show up ignorant.
You should bring Gravekeepers if you want to get to know tons of people at an event, a crowd will gather around you every time you play Necrovalley to try and remember how it works in this format since it's different in every single one.
>>98894034>we should be playing WCS 2011 to pass the time until the TF3 remake comes out insteadHear me out...https://youtu.be/ynFHcgfl62shttps://yugidrasil.neocities.org/
>>98897233Buy an ad for your slopcomp.
Would people notice I'm a coomer if I put VS Pantera in my VS K9 deck even though no one else uses her?
>>98898222Yes, you'd be a coomer and a furfag.
>>98898222I doubt it considering it's a part of the archetype. Just don't bring unnecessary attention to it and spill your spaghetti.>Person asks why you're on it>"It's for corner cases"That's all you need to say. And if they press further just say "It works for me" and play dumb.
>>98898249>coomerYes.>furfagNo, that's my Fairy Tail engine in my Charmers deck.I play Izuna and Pantera in one deck and toebeans in another so my LGS doesn't know my real favorite archetype is Traptrix.
>>98898222As long as you can articulate a strategic purpose for her inclusion, it doesn't matter. You could say it's in response to ROLAD and Angelechy (Bastion can be popped if they don't turbo out two of them), or you could say it's just a free body in general to go into Rock. It's your build after all.I like running Fusion Substitute decks. For years I ran Invoked Raidjin as a substitute because it worked for me exactly 1 time. That's all I needed for it to have a long-standing place in my extra deck.
Holding hands with DMG!!
>resolve one card>winI thought we were supposed to be past this now?
>>98899274You need to resolve a minimum of 2 cards for Angelechy to autowin.
>>98898222Personally I dismiss all VS K9 players NOT running her as soulless golems with no internal monologue just latching onto a former meta strategy.
https://vgen.co/Erminest/shopFor the guy that really likes Galatea
>game 1>opponent goes first>they activate draw phase fuwa >i have no ash>game 2>i activate draw phase fuwa>they have ash
Would people notice I'm a coomer if I play Amazoness Harpies even though no one plays the deck?
>>98900585Yes, everyone will know that you are a straight man that likes sexy ladies
Would people notice I'm a coomer if I play Traptrix?
>>98900852Yes, everyone will know that you're a straight man that likes cannoli
>>98900585We've been through several formats with at least one all-girl deck in them being meta (maliss, kewl tune, elfnote), i'm not sure why you'd feel embarrassed for bringing a deck like that to locals.What exactly is wrong with people knowing you're heterosexual? You zoomers are ass backwards.
/mtg/ here.Laughing at how 34 bans couldn't fix your shit game. Enjoy your endless powercreep because of your "superior" no rotation system.
The good MtG formats don't have rotation THOUGH.
MTG is just vastly inferior Duel Masters
>>98900965>he doesn't know about the lgs goon police squad
>>98902131I do not care about faggots from SA
>i'm not a furry>However;
>>98902991>thinking we weren't gonna get the Ghostrick at all since we got the Marincess this month as well>they post it on Halloween Day (Japan time)Well, never doubt Konami.
>>98902991Look at those hips, goddamn!
^goon police target
Guilty as charged, officer. Lock me up and throw away the key, because I like big butts and I cannot lie.
>>98871506Any large deck boxes you guys would recommend besides pic related? I know these are pretty sturdy and hold a double sleeved 60 + 15 + 15 deck (plus dice) just fine, but i don't want to use a WCQ box when i have never attended said event.
>>98901586Funny how MTG has also gone through insane powercreep for the past ten years to a degree that cards that used to be banned in Modern are unplayably weak now. What's the matter? Rotation not working as advertised after all, hmm?
reposting from /dng/ but might get more relevant answers here:thinking about getting back into yougottagogo but honestly with TCG "aggressive" (heavy quotes because it seems they'll ALWAYS target top 10 EXCEPT the top 1 lol). I think I'm going to stick with a legacy archetype since knock on wood they never really hit them and just naturally fall off the meta but the question is which one?>HeroesPros: Usually always playable in the meta, has a ton of options for playing first and second.Cons: NO answer for nibiru anymore (fck the cross sheep ban), brick city at times especially with some builds, for some reason everyone fucking hates you. You do have a few power cards that may illicit TCG heavy trigger finger though so.....xenophobic as fuck, no engines allowed.>Blue EyesPros: negate slop with a hint of floodgating. tons of starters so you'll at least get almost one spirit dragon out per game. anything that plays sifr dragon is really cool. primite engine is nice, just in general you have a lot of flexibility playing blue eyes and can go as janky but playable as much as you want.Cons: A bit less playable at times compared to heroes, when they get a boost they're relatively good for the deck but otherwise gets hit sometimes due to the engines like the rotary ban. not a huge nerf but just something to keep track of. you're going to made fun of as a yugiboomer (i'm not even one) almost every duel. fucking true light.>Dark MagicianPros: you will look ultra based.Cons: lol has this ever been even playable even with dragoon.>Shining SarcPros: POTENTIALLLLL. IT NEEDS MORE STARTERS AND END PIECES TRUST THE PLANCons: Yeah I don't think this will ever be playable, it's too reliant on side engines like Azamina which got hit.Any other I'm missing? With the branded nerf I am no longer considering Sky Strikers, takes one bad day with the employee at KoA for them to eradicate this archetype to space dust.
>>98904187HERO is too gay, anything Dark Magician adjacent is too expensive for no reason. If those were my only options, gun to my head, I'd play BEWD because at least it's very cheap.
>>98904362>hero is too gaybut is d-heroes gay??
>>98903750The design is identical to Ultimate guard's flip n tray if you like the layout of them and just don't want to use that regional prize one because of the stamp.Gamgenic has a design like it called watchtower but I don't want the removable flaps and their material is too firm for my taste for the hinge/swing parts even though it seems sturdy. The outside material is also not my thing and I prefer the rubbery feel of UG than GG's felt. This is a personal taste thing so if that sounds appealing to you go that way.I've used both for a long time now and my anecdote is that they both hold up great.
>>98904391They're British, what do you think?I actually like them.
>>98904187play d heros, they can be played without a hero lock and are the most recent so have the strongest engine power creep wise.
>>98904752>>98904542How are they in this meta? My only worries is the going second cards they released recently sack the fuck outta heroes and I can imagine would do the same for D-Heroes. I don't think we have any layering so once they break the board it's over.
>>98905062no idea, the meta hasn't solidified yet seeing as its not even a week old and about to have a huge shift with the toon cards. you do get to play spark and impulse though so that should help. i would just play some games on DB and figure out if you like it honestly.
>>98904187>HEROThe business model for most nostalgia archetypes is selling shiny cardboard for them every now and then to reignite interest, and thus make the cattle buy long out-of-print cards. Basically you'll be paying up the ass for old AND new cards.There's also the issue of the deck having 3 stigmas, the first one being that nearly all its users are gay, and it's not just a joke because jaden is a confirmed homo with a tranny literally living rent free in his head. Years ago there was a featured match between iirc sinful spoils and hero, the hero pilot was a fat brown gay male nurse.Even if you're a lily white nerdy dude, the second anyone hears you play hero, be it online or at locals, they'll assume you're mexican, brazilian or some other kind of south american. The deck is incredibly popular amongst them, much like how blue-eyes is basically THE black man's deck.Lastly if you build hero optimally your goal will always be shitting out 1-2 omni negates and several floodgates, the deck has no "sane" endboard pieces. And people HATE playing against that shit.>Blue-EyesNearly the exact same issues as hero, master magia used to be a 1k QCSR for around a year, now it's a $100 prismatic, platinum or collector's. At least you won't be presumed to be gay, just dumb and black.>Dark MagicianAlso a nigger deck, but unlike blue-eyes this one has never been meta, so it's a complete waste of money. Just fyi, ROLAD isn't dark magician.>Shining SarcophagusActually pretty decent for what it is, but losing dragoon really hurt it, now you can't shit it out before the fifth summon to insulate the rest of your plays. I'd say go for it if you're gonna treat it as the petdeck it is, but a few of its cards are expensive, like DMG and curtain.You picked 4 decks that are unlikely to get hit (DM just did lmoa), but have their own share of issues unrelated to that.
>>98905309>heroes>muh racismok don't really give a shit what some fat loser thinks lol. might pick this one up but again im just scared of the tech going second cards since there's no layering on heroes. BEWD/DM/whatever just sit on 2-3 cards so they don't have to worry about mind mirror force.
Do you have the higher resolution of this picture, I need it for my altar
>>98906908>altar???Whichever god you're worshiping probably won't like a picture made by a japanese man.
>>98904187BEWD is the default "boomer getting back into YGO deck". It is cheap (even with the Primite engine) and actually incredibly strong going first, so just bring loaded dice to locals and you'll go 4-0.
>>98905309>male nurseI am not gay and am white, but am also a male nurse. Awesome job.
Any good youtube guides on Vayu Turbo?
>>98907392https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR1-lcwgjwc&t=14
