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Advice for people who are struggling to take off with this:
If you believe you're fucked, keep getting rejected, all hope seems lost, etc. You may be trying but if your mindset is fucked then your attempts wont amount to much. If you tend to always see things as hopeless, never thinking you will make it, etc, you might need to change your mindset.
If you think it wont go well before you even try, how do you think it will go? A lot of people get stuck in this hypnosis where they believe they will never get dates or girls. Start noticing this trance you are putting yourself in and stop adding to it. You can change your mood a lot based on what you're imagining. Thinking to yourself "I can't feel good since I have no girl" and "no girl wants me because I'm a loser" is just an endless loop. Instead start imagining how things will work out. Start seeing things as going well. Start believing you are cool, that women already like you (they probably do but you have trouble accepting it), start imagining yourself actually being smooth. Essentially convince yourself that you will pull it off. You have to be constantly noticing when your focus starts shifting to hopelessness, and shift it back. When you can keep your focus on things working out well it will change things a lot faster. And if you think this is bullshit.. that thinking is the issue.

I want to break up with my FWB cause shes a disgusting whore who won't stop calling and texting me nonstop but I have no self control and keep coming back. What do I do?

>>35055858
I'm in the same boat. Except she's not a whore. And we are in a situation ship. And I don't want anybody to find out about this.

I think I need to delete my websites and social media accounts for a bit until this fire is set out.

The sex is absolutely fantastic though.

>>35055896
I'd be happy with a situationship. This one is fucking 5 other guys and tries to be best friends with me. I want it to end but how can I say no to free and easy pussy

I can talk to women easily, but I have to get over that anxiety. The thing is, I have met a couple of women through the years that I was able to hold a conversation with. And felt that they were being open and interested.

Example, talking to one for two hours, and like, when is the point where its acceptable to ask them out? I always have had this fear of it backfiring and getting a negative reaction. Yeah, im talking to her, and have been for a while, I just dont know when its appropriate or not.

>>35055912
In my younger years, id like to add, it wasnt too rare to be approached or talk to them. Mostly because I was in environments where socializing was part of it. Like bars.

>>35055905
She can barely speak English, and it's pretty embarrassing when we go out in public. When we went to this one restaurant, the waitress was asking her a question, and she literally just ignored the waitress talking to her. I was smirking because it was funny, but honestly, I feel like when people see us in public, they know exactly that I'm just some guy fucking an Asian woman.

Then there's my ex-girlfriend who I love dearly coming back into my life at this moment. After a month of being alone. I really don't like having to balance more than one woman. It's tiresome.

>>35055905
Does that whore ever have another man's sweat covering her body? If she's still clean, maybe it's okay, but yeah, that seems kind of gross.

>>35055926
>nd it's pretty embarrassing when we go out in public.
Are you able to turn it into like a distant FWB thing? I couldn't handle the time wasted going on dates with someone like this.
>Then there's my ex-girlfriend who I love dearly coming back into my life at this moment.
Why did you breakup?

>>35055928
Not long ago she had two first dates planned on the same day and fucked both guys in their backseat on the same day.

>>35055935
>turn it into like a distant FWB thing?
That's not a bad idea. I think it would take some wit and manipulation. It could be done. She's not the most intelligent woman. Or at least the language barrier presents a lot potential for exploitation.

>Why did you breakup?
This was another Asian woman and we got along. She could speak pretty good English, but I just felt like something was missing. I felt trapped in a corner and isolated due to her not coming up with things to talk about, or entertaining ideas very well. I don't know, things felt very one-dimensional, and I don't like that a lot, but at the same time, I feel so responsible for making sure she's safe and happy.. Like a daughter.

>>35055946
It's hard to imagine a beautiful woman doing that sort of thing. We all love sex and we would probably do the same thing if we were her, capable of it.

Maybe her parents divorced and she witnessed her mother and father dating other people so she doesn't really care.

>>35055965
>It's hard to imagine a beautiful woman doing that sort of thing.
She's extremely beautiful just weird
>We all love sex and we would probably do the same thing if we were her, capable of it.
I'd rather be looking for an actual serious relationship not spend my time fucking a bunch of diseased whores in an empty car park.
>Maybe her parents divorced and she witnessed her mother and father dating other people so she doesn't really care.
She's non-monogamous and tries to explain it to me like it's this deep philosophical thing about finding different types of connections with different type of people but then shes just fucking random gym bros she meets on hinge like just accept you're a whore don't make it something deeper

>>35055978
She might never be satisfied. I think that sexual satisfaction can't be reached. I wish it could. But even after fucking three times a day and tried for a fourth time because I'm still horny, like it just doesn't go away.

And then there's people who are closer to being asexual and just don't care about sex at all. It's a very strange way to live. Where do they get their thrill and their gumption from? Besides sex, there's coffee and maybe a dopamine hit from a good workout.

I just drove past my ex-fling on the highway. What are the odds kek

>>35055912
It's simpler than you're making it, but that's exceedingly common.

>when is the point where its acceptable to ask them out?
As soon as it's clear she's comfortable with you. That's it.

>I always have had this fear of it backfiring and getting a negative reaction
Do you have an actual idea of what "backfiring" or "negative reaction" means? What it would look like?
Because if you ask her out and she says no or tells you that she has a bf, etc. That is neither backfiring or a negative reaction. That's an answer to the question you asked.

The key is to respond to any and all rejection like it's no big deal. Because it's no big deal. Shrug it off, smile, maybe chat for a bit more, and then fuck off with a pleasant grin.

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>>35056388 >>35056521 >>35057080

How do I know if I'm in the friend zone or if she's interested when I've already been talking to a girl for a while?
I've been talking to this girl, asked her out somewhat early on, but she was just getting out of a bad relationship and needs time.

We've gotten closer and closer with deeper conversations but nothing explicitly romantic yet, she's making time for me and always seems extremely happy to see me but I'm worried I get framed as a good friend instead.

how to find women on instagram who'd be easy to slip into the DMs, do I need an actual "lived in" account for that? With pics?

>>35055414
I want a gf with big boobs so much it's unreal

>>35056141
>she was just getting out of a bad relationship and needs time.
This is sometimes an excuse and sometimes pure truth. It varies.

>How do I know if I'm in the friend zone or if she's interested when I've already been talking to a girl for a while?
This is very difficult to discern because signs vary on the preferences of the individual.

But the hallmark of being in the friendzone is if you're a confidant. If she's talking to you about her problems, that's a maybe. If she's talking to you about he ex or other men, that's a strong sign that you've been benched.

How long has it been since you asked her out? If it's been a while, there's a way to play it, essentially a sort of shit test for her. But it'd likely be the last attempt.

>>35056388
>This is sometimes an excuse and sometimes pure truth. It varies.
I'm like 95% sure it's the truth.
>If she's talking to you about he ex or other men, that's a strong sign that you've been benched.
She has talked about problems but never too deep, and only after weeks of knowing each other, and only after I opened up regarding stuff that she mirrored later.
She has never mentioned the boyfriend/ex at all until I asked her out, she went out of her way to NEVER disclose that which is why I asked her out, and never mentioned him after, the few times she has mentioned/talked about relationships is about her
>Having terrible luck with past relationships
>That a couple other men have been interested in her not long ago but also explicitly told me she paid them no mind and is not interested in them

>How long has it been since you asked her out?
About 3 weeks now.

>>35056388
>>35056398
Also, after I asked her and she told me about the breakup she was the one immediately initiating contact and finding ways for us to spend more time together.

>>35056141
>>35056402
>just getting out of a bad relationship and needs time
>initiating contact and finding ways for us to spend more time together
It sounds like she doesn't want to officially date yet, but she'd probably let you hit it if you tried

The most important thing when dating a woman is if you see her for who she is inside and what she stands for. That and be a decent human being who tries to do the honest thing.

Lust is being greedy towards a woman, but love is having experience with a woman. When you greed towards a woman that will always be lust, but the experiences tell something different.

>>35055414
I have a woman, she's getting old and kind of annoying. I should have stayed single and built an empire. Instead I stayed back and never left her comfort level. I did push some, and we flipped several homes that I renovated but I would have gone further and been more rich if I was alone. She's just a hole, forget about it.

Lust is submitting to carnal desires

Love is devoting yourself to her becoming while she does the same

Get it right, Chud

>>35056568
Yikes, I guess every man with a wife lies through his teeth when he shills his marriage/wife

marriage seems so suffocating. Is it?

What would you do with the extra money?

>>35056521
Maybe, but I don't really want to hit and run or have something casual with her.
I've grown to genuinely really like her

>>35056571
>Wow yikes I saw one man going through what is most likely a temporary rough patch in his marriage
>Guess every married couple are all liars huh

>>35056587
>anon said a few words
>that must mean his post detailed all his thoughts on the subject

>>35056587
You've obviously never seen how pissed off my dad is in a bad marriage.

>>35056141
100% friend zoned at this point, i feel like you might already know this? the correct course from this point forward is starting to move things towards a sexual direction. that means treating your conversations as if this is somebody you want to have sex with and stop having friend conversations. but since you already sort of accepted your friend zone after she turned you down it will be hard. to be honest if you start to sexualize things she may stop talking to you and i have a feeling you are afraid of that happening. but you should do it if its what you want, unless you truly just want to be her friend only.

>>35057080
>i feel like you might already know this?
The complete opposite, her behavior leads me to believe otherwise and whenever I make more direct bids she gets even closer.
For example, a week and half ago she was celebrating a work thing and was really hyped about it, got her a little gift to commemorate and she said multiple times how much it meant to her.

I'm asking to remove any doubt or chance that it might start to go that way.


I think I forgot to mention another key detail but she was the one trying to get close to me before I asked her out, she was the one that talked to me first, gave me her number, etc, and then kept escalating things after the "not yet" rejection
I think I just asked too early/too quickly and she wasn't ready at the time.

>>35057080
u guys are insanely retarded how can you give "advice" like this

When is OP going to change the title from "how to get women" to "how to get a gf" the title is so retarded.

>>35057126
not everyone wants a gf
some of us just want to bang sluts

>>35057133
Then change the title to "how to bang"

>>35057155
This is an inclusive community for both goals

>>35057094
Yeah there is such a thing as trying to move things too fast even when she shows interest, but we are talking about a woman you haven’t had sex with or even taken on a date yet. You are already buying her shit. And you are also asking if she likes you or not so you’re playing it way too safe (understandable if this is a coworker). If you like her you have to move things smoothly without seeming desperate. You talk about things moving closer but unless you are taking her out or having SEXUAL conversations I wouldn’t be so sure. Basically you need to make a move as in meeting her 1 on 1 instead of asking if she’s really interested or not, just make your move and stop wondering. Assume she is interested somewhat but that she won’t stay interested forever.

>>35057107
you didn’t post a response because you have no advice dumb fuck.

>>35056048
I saw the woman I made out with then got ghosted by in the line for immigration on the other side of the country, equally slim odds

>>35056398
>>35056402
3 weeks is neither:
A. long enough for her to really be ready to date if she wasn't before.
B. So long that it'd be weird for you to still be interested

Sounds like she's currently interested in you but, likely correctly, believes she's not ready to date.
Unfortunately, neither of you likely can guess when she'll be ready.
It's complicated.
When things are complicated, I find it best to put my cards completely on the table and let the truth guide the result. But again, I don't know if you even need to do anything yet. It's tough.

>>35056571
>Is it?
Nta
No. But life can be.

>>35057107
>>35057080
>treating your conversations as if this is somebody you want to have sex with
This part is actually really solid advice in general.

>>35057189
>You are already buying her shit. And you are also asking if she likes you or not so you’re playing it way too safe (understandable if this is a coworker).
Technically co-workers, but not in the long run, it's a short term thing where she will leave the company in a few months.
We're already meeting one on one, leaving together, talking every day, she's already been saying we should do x stuff together after she leaves and what not completely unprompted.
The gift was a non direct but still a signal, too direct might scare her off, no signal would say "he doesn't give a shit anymore"

I think she's almost there, but the friendzone danger is also there.
As for why I haven't been more direct;
1) I already asked her out not long ago, she knows how I feel, yet she keeps trying to get closer and closer despite knowing that
2) It hasn't been long enough where I don't look/feel almost predatory and desperate
3) From what I've gathered, not directly from her mouth, is that part of the problems she had was because the ex love bombed and was stringing her along, a more direct approach would risk opening that wound very quickly.


And that doesn't mean I haven't been somewhat direct and just happily became a friend, we've had multiple "quasi dates" of us walking and sitting together for long periods of time, my desire has only increased and the gift purpose was making that obvious, and like all those quasi dates and walks I suggested her, she eagerly accepted and loved it, they're just not explicitly and front loaded romantically yet because I don't want to push her into it.

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>girl at work flirts with me and then goes cold
>keep talking to her for weeks trying to figure out what went wrong stressing out about what to say and get nervous whenever I'm about to start talking
>give up and just treat her like a normal coworker

>talking to her suddenly feels effortless and she chats and banters back
ooooooooooooooh, this is what Dr. K. meant by it's good to be in the friendzone

I had a situation with a woman where I'm sure she's lying about not being interested because of all of the details leading up to her telling me she wants to be friends such as excitedly talking about when I meet her family, making gifts for my mom, comparing us to couples in movies we watched together, making out in my room and rubbing her around her crotch over her pants etc. She ended up redownloading a dating app and fucking a dude while leading me on in this time, but I believe she didn't want to date me out of fear of things not working out because of my living condition (going back to college and living with my parents while I do so in order to save money).

What might be my best course of action if I seriously can't get over her? It's been 3 months now and even when I'm talking to other women she's at the top of my mind.

Do I just straight up tell her that I think she was lying? What really is there to do here?

Even though I haven't gotten a girlfriend, I have been more and more lately able to not let people bragging about their sex life get to me. Knowing that many years down the line it all will just be memories. What matters more in life is experiencing life for yourself not forcing a memory for the sake of crowds and self-esteem, because in the end it will just be memories.

>>35056656
Zach, I haven’t been to these threads in few years. Are you still giving advice on dating while being single and depressed? Or do you have a relationship finally?

>>35057833
You let my edginess get to you too much. Go be yourself and get a hot girlfriend.

>>35057744
The best way to get over someone is to get under someone else.
Don't waste your time with women who want to play games and have some self respect.

>>35057949
Is there a way in which I can get her back, that being said? I haven't talked to her since then, but hypothetically speaking?

Not that I haven't talked to other women in the time.

>>35057955
I should note that we didn't date, but we spent nearly 3 months flirting and such, doing stuff together, spending every day talking. As much as she says she "can only see me as a friend", I think all of her actions up to that point said otherwise. Someone doesn't take 3 months to reach that sort of conclusion.

>>35056587
don't make it look like it's the other way. There's a reason half the marriages fail after 5 years. After 10 years it's almost 80%. Out of the remaining, most are probably just cruising by, meaning there is a very small percentage of actually stable, good marriages