tauren or nelf druid?
I am also rolling a gnome priest so going tauren for faction balance and novelty would be a good move
but nelfs are sexier, especially since there is no tree form
but ideally I would go balance anyway so that point may be moot
I just don't know...

>>586346785
>tauren or nelf druid?
tauren if you want to play horde
nelf if you want to play alliance
hope this helps

The original game should be removed from the hands of nublizzard. There ia no hope in any other scenario.

>>586346656
the discord links are expired...

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>>586346785
nobody with more than a single shared braincell hosted on the cloud plays horde

AHHHH I can't decide whether to go PVE or PVP!!!!

is it true that haste doesnt affect cooldowns?

>>586347009
Go PVP.
You are playing only half the game if you go PVE.

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>>586347618

I haven't checked the game since it was announced
What has beta changed? What should I expect when I play?

>>586347009
*This post and subsequent replies are sponsored by the PVE society.

>>586346849
You weren't supposed to actually click them

>>586347085
Why would it affect cooldowns?

It does affect GCD unlike in classic but GCD is capped at 1s, so cats and rogues don't get the benefit.

>>586347085
it is true

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>>586359141

>got my days off from the 5th to the 9th
>blanky is ready
>gamerfuel snacks are ready
>all social media and phones destroyed
>Tauren resto druid on the RP realmset

My body is ready.

>>586347204
>>586347218
then skyborne mages dont have a dps racial because the haste does nothing since they have to wait for their rotation cooldown anyway (fire blast, arcane wrath and ice lance/coc)

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>>586347895 >>586354139

>rapes ur stupid orc mind for fucking with our trees

>>586347183
i dont know what happened to you slop bro but you used to be based, i suppose this is how you are processing your trauma and i wish you a quick recovery and the best

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>>586347552

>naming your character after the woman that appears in your dreams
anyone else do this

>>586347448
That's not how it works.

ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL

>>586347517
no I dress up as her while I play the game tho

>>586347183
please get help dude

>>586347537
how come?

>>586347183
>two internal shots
What the hell

>>586347183
oh yay, another degenerate turd world spammer, never seen one of those before in a general.

>>586347097
damn, i don't specifically like any of those burgers except for number 2, because i don't like onions/fried onion rings in my burgers...

>>586347557
>>586347458
>white woman in her natural habitat
>somehow this is a problem

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>>586347750 >>586348068 >>586348234

>Fell for it again award
You don't need to do the same song and dance again

>>586347662
They get to level 30 and get bored?

>>586347453
>when you nut and she still sucking

>>586347662
I plan to level one character to 60 and then quit.
Raiding is just a 2nd job or a compensation for a job for neets.

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>>586347612
You don't delay your spells for a fire blast

>someone streaming WoW or video footage
>paid leveling addon clearly displayed on their screen
Is the overton window so fucked that people accept this as the norm?

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>>586348325

>>586347662
First real raid only releasing in summer is going to destroy so many guilds. Nobody is sticking around to speedrun all these 10-20 man ZGs.

>>586347091
The people who play on PVP are awful chuds though. I wish we could have a PVP server with a PVE server community.

>>586348234
They're reworking everything

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>>586348316
It'c called RP-PvP.

>>586348316
thats rp pvp

>>586348129
ive been seeing sub 1k view videos with rxp referrals

>>586348515
reminds me of solheim. idk how the fuck that dude has any money at all with his view counts.

>>586348515
I was just recommended a Nixxiom video and his complaining about retail, retail writing, retail monetisation and there's a fucking Zygor addon just in the middle of his B-roll footage.
How do people take anyone seriously?

>>586348707
>he actually cares to read NuBlizz agendaslop quest

>>586348774
classic

>>586348707
>How do people take anyone seriously?
some type of biological enshittifiction

>>586348774
who's this?

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Illegal for uk anons

>>586348129
It's not breaking a law, it's just against TOS. But that all kinda falls apart if Blizz not only doesnt decide to enforce it, but uses it themselves. If the people who write and enforce the rules won't do so the the add on is de facto TOS-friendly

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I wonder if seal of righteousness can proc it. You'd get two chances for each command to proc (but command has a 1s cd so would still be at most 3x command).

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>4 days

my gock is literally coughing cobwebs at this point. forever needs to drop i cant keep gooning to pass the time

>>586348976
No it's more just hypocrisy.
If you're scummy all along and have the attitude for doing anything for a check, you have no moral quandries. By contrast we DO raise an eyebrow at say something who id really anti-smoking doing an ad for cigarettes

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Why dont all the people who have to join a discord to get a PvP horde slot just roll on Normal

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>>586350246 >>586350316 >>586350407 >>586350553 >>586350704

>>586346656
<Daybreak Company> is an upcoming casual raiding guild an NA RP-PVE Alliance. Raid times are 530am-830am CST. SR loot, no DKP or loot council. We are recruiting all classes/specs for a 20m core of raiders that will be ready to raid December 12th.
https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X

When is the pre-install?

>>586350103
you literally could not pick a worse time slot to raid if you tried

>>586349997
Reminds me of that time Bruce Campbell was asked why he was in that terrible movie Congo, he basically lists off every big name associated with the project and looked like it was going to be the next Jurassic Park, the mega blockbuster of the year. And then the movie sucked. At which point he was asked
>So do you regret being in it?
>No, the checks cleared just fine.

>>586350103
what the ACTUAL fuck are those raid times

>>586350103
Unironically these raid times are perfect for me but I already made my main on pvp

>>586350279
Being in a movie that turned out to be bad isn't morally reprehensible, unlike being a two-faced lying rat

>>586350227
already up - the stress test client

>>586348707
his job is making videos about wow, your expectations for his credibility are far, FAR too high.

He gives you his mostly unfiltered-opinions, and if you have an iq above room temp, you will not fall for sponsors that are tangentially-related to his subject matter.

However, if he was advertising gold sellers/boosting services, then yes, that would be a very valid criticism.

>>586350279
And that's why he's the King.

>>586350103
those raid times are fucking ridiculous what the fuck?

>>586350485
Plus it basically gave him a week's vacation in the tropics for just a couple days work as his character is killed off in the first 10 minutes

>>586350470
When your opinion is "retail bad" and you have an add-on that plays the game for you, you don't get to have an opinion.

>>586346910
stroke stroke stroke stroke stroke stroke spurt

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>>586350764

How I look at Blizzard giving an shockadin build a one more beating before release just to make sure it will never be viable.

The new paladin talents seem to be way better overall but man, I was so exited because early beta it really looked like you could had actually played ret paladin that stacks spell power instead of STR and AGI
Moving the Divine Intellect to prot tree from Holy seems like an personal insult to me, Only reason it to be in Prot is to make it impossible players to have it if you want to take Champion of the Light from Ret and Holy Shock from Holy.

But from the other hand the Unsealed wrath seems to be slightly more interesting than twist of light. After the changes Ret doesn't seem that much better maybe, minor buff. But Prot and Holy got new spells from talents and trees seem to be way better.

>>586350103
>have 10 minutes left to kill the boss
>half your raid immediately leaves or they will be late for work.
>not a single person outside of cst will play in your guild
this is legit insane.

>>586350553
I guess they're trying to raid before a 9 am work shift.

>>586350694
I wouldn't mind if they actually gave it the same treatment as feral where you got enough talents in there to actually accommodate shockadin build and a healing build.

Shockadin was always a meme and should have never been seriously supported in any real capacity.

Just give hybrids 4 specs at this point, they obviously want to make Guardian and Feral a thing.

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>>586351223 >>586351780 >>586352410

Did they add mining nodes to Teldrassil or am I still fucked in having to wait to reach Darkshore until I can start mining?

>>586350832
there was a lot of meme builds in wow all the way up through tbc.

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>>586351475

>trivial quests: ticked
the minmaxer cannot comprehend

whats the lore reason why warlocks have to go back to the trainer to learn how to cast shadowbolt even harder

>>586350935
Didn't go mining on my Nelf, but I saw there's "amber" nodes you'll be able to mine at least in the starting area.

>>586351083
>wow if it wasn't run by 40yo karens from hr

>>586351086
he teaches you a trick to throwing it harder than before.

>>586351083
that priest? caged

>>586351332
yeah but 9 times? that sounds like a lot like scientology

>>586351086
Same as other classes id assume. Trainers just teach you how to refine the techniques more and more.
But really its just because its a video game.

>>586351375
How do you think baseball pitchers learn to throw the ball? They visit the warlock trainer.

>>586351005
oh yeah i'll definitely do this

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>>586351762

after the last podcast we just know that fogever is doomed

Will guilds even exist with the raid size available?
Don't know how many of you were around during the transition from vanilla to tbc but when raids went from 40 man to 25 man, many guilds shattered and never recovered and this shit is releasing with only 3 raids and only one is a 40 man and I hardly consider Onyxia a traditional raid

>>586351541
Did you make this meme yourself? Can i save this?

>>586350935
Like >>586351223 said there's amber nodes it a few caves but it's still extremely slim pickings, no nodes on hillsides or anywhere outside of a few caves

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>>586351935

My wild guess is that there will be hints to the future playable races in the parts of azeroth we weren't able to enjoy in the beta.

>>586351757
people pug ubrs so why not the 10man raid?

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>>586351083
no straight white male actually enjoys those lips, this model was made by a porn addicted tranny, not a straight man demanding a bit of fanservice.

>>586351757
I get the vibe theres going to be a lot more pugging but I could be wrong.

>>586351083
The body is good, but that face ew no

>>586351795
They'll add Gilneas and we will get negrow, basically reverse worgen who are wolves that turn into humans rather than humans that turn into wolves.

>>586351824
They're fine actually.

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>>586351762
you can't, I own the rights to it

>>586351819
>>586351843
I'm just saying it's going to be a completely different type of game and not really classic + or vanilla in spirit because of the way raid size is shaping up
You're going to see much smaller guilds and when it does come or if it does come, 40 man raids probably won't be mono guild affairs, but multi guild like I saw during season of mastery

i might have to work on launch day and that's friggen pissed me off

>>586351935
Isn't that just the lycan from World of Darkness?

>>586352191
id quit

>>586352191
The servers are going to be unusable for at least two days. That's why they're launching on a Thursday.

>>586351780
It should be fine. Nothing is worse than going over to Darkshore and starting off with 1 mining.

>>586351935
Can't we just get the vanilla worgen pls

>>586350935
the amber nodes the other anons are talking about were hyper spawning in the spider cave so you should be able to get some skillups there.
the main issue is that you have to wait so long before getting blacksmithing if that's what you're going for

>>586352191
Its going to be fucked day 1. Don't worry about it.
I have the day off but im planning on sleeping in anyway. Same thing I do with poe launches. Let the majority get ahead and spread out. Then when you catch up theyll be getting ready to log off.

>>586352558
tranny

>>586333365
artist name?

>>586352558
Boobs too saggy

>>586351757
Of course guilds will exist. At the base level any guild is a community of friends.
I do think there will be way more smaller guilds now and people will do joint guild raids for Onyxia.
Also although I personally have friends in speedrun guilds that are moving to forever, I think those will quickly leave because there no chance 20 man zg's will be able to keep their autistc brains engaged like 40mans or tbc/wotlk.

>>586352558
boobs not saggy enough
needs torpedo tits

>>586352725
Dario Amodei

>>586352274
considering it
>>586352290
>>586352489
i hope so, i'll probably only miss 4 hours but did want to be there for the start

>>586352782
no shot thats ai

Do you think forever will be more popular than retail?

>>586352862
>no shot
fr fr no cap cuz

>>586352915
The beta was already more popular than the beta

>>586352915
yes. forever will dominate the MMO genre for 1000's of years.

>>586352915
for some time, yeah. once the hype dies, the mazers will be back to the newest retailslop

>>586352915
forever is too simple and has no hardcore raiding or maze+ dungeons
both will exist for different people

>>586352915
no, it's going to die like classic did, in less than 90 days

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>>586353548

Even if the game turns to shit, I don't care, it's the last ride before the end of the world as we know it. And I won't even feel bad since I didn't buy any of these gay bundles, pure sub, I don't need anything else

>>586353076
>>586353162
>>586353178
But can you really compare it to dying classic? Forever will have regular updates, balance patches and content additions. But yeah, I know some pople prefer M+ and all the hardcore raids on retail.

>>586352915
If blizzard wanted it to be more popular than retail they wouldn't have added skyborne

>>586352915
forever will die once gta6 and zelda comes out

>>586352915

Forever is going to die even faster than Classic did.

EoS in less than a year.

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>>586353195
I'm going to style on you with my exclusive bundle shit precisely because it's the last ride for old style mmorpgs. Get pwned noob.

>>586353469
>If blizzard wanted it to be more popular than retail they wouldn't have added skyborne
Why? Isn't skelf the perfect retail race? Look at the Horde race distribution, belf is the most popular race.

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>>586353803 >>586353867 >>586353915

I'm a healer in dungeons and raids. That doesn't mean I should only be allowed to roll on healer gear. A lot of Paladins level as Ret because Holy is terrible for solo play. When I switch to Holy for a group, am I supposed to suddenly ignore strength and stamina gear and only touch intellect pieces? No. I'm not interested in arguing with people over loot. DPS can be annoying, but tanks are worse. Some of them act like entitled scumbags who think they get first claim on everything. If a strength or stamina piece drops, I'm rolling on it even as Holy, especially if one of those tanks wants it. Being the healer doesn't turn me into the group's servant. I'm not here to do indentured servitude just so everyone else can gear up. I'll roll on whatever gear I actually want.

>>586352410
>fly to darkshore like 2 hours in
>dwarf teaches you blacksmithing

>>586352915
I wouldn't be surprised if the beta was more popular than retail.

>>586352915
Forever will be a nice side-game but I'm not going to quit retail. I'm not expecting Forever to be half as good as people are making it out to be anyway. The beta was just classic with some new shit and I've already been there done that a few times now. But it'll be nice and cosy to level something and just take things slow over there.

>>586353720
No? Just press need.

>>586353720
this and chests are first come first serve
i've seen one (1) blue in 20 years of playing drop from chests
same for gear if it can be equipped and is an improvement

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>you will never level through Eversong Woods for the very first time ever again
why even live

>>586353792
>just classic with some new shit
yeah thats the entire point

>>586353720
R P S E R V E R
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>>586351757
you do the 20 man mainraid then split into 2 groups to do 10 man which is in the same location in hyjal
onyxia is whatever in classic/anniversary you would split your 40 into two to get more loot from 2 clears so no reason not to do it with 20 this time aswell
no reason to sustain a 40 man roster when 20 is the new main size

forever is literally SoD 2 or better yet, turtle minus

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Skyborne have been spotted in Stormwind.

>>586353990
And you're basing this on?

>>586352915
for the first 2 months absolutely since leveling is slow and raids release more than 1 month in

>>586347453
wtf i love nelf priests now

>>586352915
Retail is completely dead so that's not very hard to do. Are people seriously gassing up that shit when they literally added shit like crossfaction and mega servers just so people could feel like they had players?

>>586352191
Call in sick and take rest of the week off while you're at it.

>>586354109
it follows the same prognostic

I liked crossfaction in retail thougheverbeit....

t. Alliance chad with Horde friends

>>586352191
It doesn't launch until late afternoon anyway

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>>586354679

People make up all kinds of reasons for why they're not power-leveling to 60.

I'm not doing it because I've only ever experienced WoW from WOD onwards.

And I saw Forever is the much superior experience and have now dropped retail completely.

I can experience everything for the first time, so why not take my time? Based.

But if you're a Classic Andy that has played the same old fucking quests for literal decades... Hoooooly!

I would be ripping through the quests. I'd use an auto-accept and turn-in addon and everything.

I would not be Shobek stopping my stream to look at a sunset in some random zone pretending I care and that it's some life changing view, talking about: Bankai, Minimo-san, you haveu seen the greatestu sunsetu, smiling smugly at my stream as they praise me for looking at a sun (?).

Dude is a nut job.

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>>586354424
your post is extremely gay and faggot coded. you should kill yourself really really soon.

I don't even say that as hate or troll, but I feel like I won't enjoy Forever in the long run. I don't want to just raidlog. But I also don't want to play retoilet, I feel like I will miss 2v2 Arena and really difficult small group dungeons, but I absolutely hate m+ culture, paying to get it, only inviting meta classes etc.
I want to love Forever, but I feel like it will consume so much time (which I don't mind), just to raidlog in the end? And neglect other cool games. Because I know myself.. I will hyperfocus on Forever and forget every other shitty game.

>>586352759
I'm even more convinced than ever that smaller raid sizes hurt the game and guilds and helped destroy the massively part of mmo-rpg than ever before, whatever benefit you thought you could get out of smaller raid sizes should always be done through the 40 person raid framework, you want smaller fights split the raid up into 2 twenty man's in the raid, you want even smaller do 4 ten man's and have them race or compete against each other or even just see each group pop up through the raid at certain points
40 man raids will always leave you room for more variation and uniqueness
And with smaller raid sizes, comes smaller guilds, that annoying faggot in your guild becomes even more annoying, the world has less people in it
Sure you have more cats to herd, but the other option is no longer an mmo-rpg, loot feels more special with more people too

>>586354715
wow endgame is world pvp while leveling

hello I’m your warrior tank for this dungeon, this means the following:

I will not be stopping if you’re OOM, I’m here to finish the dungeon quickly and getting out

I will be needing on leather dps gear, two-handers and daggers as well, maybe even guns, bows

I will need on every recipe and gems

I won’t bring any buffs, it’s your job to give me food buff, fireplace buff etc

I might not know the dungeon layout, in that case you will have to lead and show me

I won’t bother with boss mechanics, I’ll just spam sunder and stay in one place

If you’re not fine with these rules, you can kick me and find another tank, which will take an hour at least

you’re welcome!

>>586354851
>wow endgame dies after the first month
the real end game is asking for fresh

>>586354815
having raids to be the only pathway to get the best gear is just bad game design.

>being forced to work an extra hour tonight because the clocks rolled back
Class/race combo for this feel?

>>586353591
retail and classic vanilla are entirely two different games with two entirely different art styles
just shoving a retail asset race into vanilla isn't going to appeal to a retail player, that's why they keep asking for all the changes and all the convenience from retail, the only thing that supersedes that is the fomo of missing out on something to add to their retail life collection the devs might sneak into classic, that's one of their biggest fears and a major reason why they're here, otherwise they would rather be in their disneyfied retail sim

>>586354815
This is why I think it's a huge mistake to only have 20man raids for the first half a year of this new wow. Old classic had the MC as the goal for guilds to gather people and build the guild up. Now we have some fucking meme ZG's.

>>586354892
I unironically had 2 faggots like this in the beta. Why can't they wait? I was a shaman, nigga let me drink first, I need to reg. He needed on everything I need. And he didn't even use a fucking shield.
I won't heal groups like this anymore. I will just leave, Forever will have enough players.

>>586355275
thank god retards like you aren't making the game and just shitposting on this dead forum

>>586355012
I think it's the most interesting and most fun and what the game should be about
Most drama filled, most chances for failure with all the moving cogs and when it succeeds the most fulfilling and rewarding, most drama filled, most frustrating etc etc

Thinking about going either tank shammy or tank pally.
If tank shammy doesnt work out, atleast I can swap to resto. But if tank pally doesnt work out (since you only need 2 tanks in a 20 man raid) like, who the fuck wants a ret?

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>>586356204

I await the return of our queen

>>586354815
On the contrary, people I like can actually talk in smaller raids.
40 man is a dumpster fire where 80% of people can't say anything or the comms are unusable and the game is unplayable.

>>586355357
Stick to pugs on your RP server and let adults talk.

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>>586355710

Why no shaman elves for alliance? That's just silly. We got plenty of mages already.

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whats this darker patch of hair on my druids catform?

>>586355578
Play the starter zone and find out why.

I never really was an active raider. I always preferred smaller group content and Arena + BGs. I love the idea of 10 man raids. I don't want be in a group of 40 whos? Rolling for drops in an ever rotating group. I have some frens joining forever and we will try to fill up the remaining spots with cool randos, and try to share the loot. 2 cloth, 2 leather, 2 mail, 2 plate and some filler.

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>>586355432
>t. never participated in eve online war

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>>586355717
>I never really raided but here's my opinion on raiding

>>586355717
I hope we get lots of Karazhan-esque raids.

We definitely need personal loot it would fix everything.

>>586356000
>Quest Accepted: Evil Residents
>boss is named Oilburt Wizzgear

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>>586356624

>>586355501
I miss his great work and my nelfie will be a warrior in his honor.

>>586355502
that just means you have bad leadership and delegation in your guild and raid, no one should be talking on comms other than the main tank, certain class leaders or the raid leader
You can set up class comm sub groups below that
And if you want your raids to be social gatherings, you're probably not in a very good guild and what you want really shouldn't matter in the grand scheme because you'd be ok with whatever or worse

If I want to play as an Alliance should I rolll on a PvE ruleset? I've seen some videos on a raid night in Blackrock Mountain, not sure I want to subject myself to that complete aids.

So horny for this game

>>586356000
What's going on inside?

>>586356240
You should

>>586356273
rape and not even joking

>>586356273
evil mens doing evil things

>>586356204
His slutty wifey was really something alright
I've busted so many times to her

>>586356624
stop replying to yourself, faggot

>>586356732
>do not answer teh question, do . not. answer. it

>>586356213
Nigga I WANT people to talk on comms. It's fucking classic, the content is trivial. I like 10 man because we can yap and not take anything seriously.
Why would I want to be in a 'good' guild when the content is absolute pushover shit? If I want hard I'll hop on retail and push keys.

>>586355275
I don't mind twenty man raids, but I quit tbc and didn't think much of the troll raid in that expansion, is all the loot from there going to be troll themed, if so
I'd want to be playing a troll
There's something thematic about Vanilla that gets lost the further you get away from it, that I don't thin the modern devs understand or care to respect
it just feels off

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>>586356980 >>586357069

>>586356732
Why are they just lying? Horde and Alliance are pretty evenly matched in classic, at its peak there was even a slight horde imbalance.

Am I retarded, or will leveling be faster in Forever? More quests, plus the strange XP buff from the campfire. How do some people think it will take longer?

>>586356919
because blizzard is biased towards the horde

Rolling need on a BoE should soulbind it. The idea is that if you roll Need on a BoE, you’re saying you intend to equip it (or disenchant, before someone points it out), and that it should be bound to you immediately.
Rolling Greed is saying you’d really like to sell that item (or still disenchant if you’re being nice about it), and should be the only way to end up with a sellable item.
If rolling need doesn’t have consequences and is treated as a foregone conclusion, then why even have the option to greed?
I think blizzard should change this, need should have more weight

>>586356919
The point is they would NOT be evenly matched if one side got blood elf models and the other didn't.

>>586356864
I don't know man
I'm the type of person that wants to play the game
It sounds like you want a discord clique to replace a real life friend group
We're diametrically opposed in what we're looking for in this genre of game it seems
I'm ok with brief moments of trolling in trade chat
I don't need or want to hear your voice
I'm good

>>586356962
its still going to take a fair amount of time but i'd say the points where you run out of quests and need to grind have been filled in

>>586356895
This, Personally I can't stand the troll "aesthetic", so a whole raid tier of that combined with ZF and ZG in Vanilla is just too much while other races like tauren, or dwarf get nothing.

>>586357102
Alright I guess.
It just seems very odd to me that someone that married to the gameplay as opposed to the social elements, would choose to vest a ton of time and energy into what is likely the literal easiest MMO on the entire market in terms of instanced content.
And mind you, I don't hate the gameplay of classic or anything, it's fun. It just seems absurd to take it in a highly competitive direction when it's literally just retail for people with parkinson's.

>>586357290
sounds like you're a candidate for the hardcore server, big guy

>>586356996
>The idea is that if you roll Need on a BoE, you’re saying you intend...(or disenchant, before someone points it out)
Any cocksucker who does this should be crucified.

the main problem with the new naming system is that the names literally don't fit in the chat anymore

[1. General - Dun Morogh] [Jonathan Warcraft]:
hello guys

>>586357638
Isn't that just a function of the size of your chat window?

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>>586357775 >>586357813 >>586357893 >>586357931 >>586357932 >>586358440

So are dungeons meant to be difficult to heal? I'd heard so many crazy war stories from Classic Andy people about how, 'Ohhh, it's so difficult bro. You have to do these strategies to even kill the trash mobs.'
When in the beta I just... hit 1 spell button? And nobody went below 80%...
Are Classic Andy people known for blatant lying about game mechanics?

i hope they don't pull another cataclysm and fuck the world up

If it's BoE everyone Needs because someone will be the only one holding on to the button and Needing it after others didn't. Been that simple. You're free to haggle for a BoE item from anyone after they win it.

>>586357723
lvl14 dungeon vs lvl60 dungeon

>>586357746
That is the least likely thing to happen in Forever. Retail on the other hand is actually moving towards that.

>>586357723
It does get a lot harder later.
But dungeon healing difficulty scales dramatically up or down depending on the competence and gear level of your group.
A strath run with a bad group can be a huge struggle.

>>586357752
you get kicked out of the group if you need shit you arent equipping

>>586357723
If you ever went below 80% as a person who can read and write that would mean half the new playerbase would wipe to it. These people won't reach lvl60 anyways so there's room for actual game after the tourists get a sightseeing tour at low levels.

>>586357723
Some of the new dungeons have hard trash pulls that shit out a lot of AoE damage unlike any other levelling dungeon in classic, dalaran for example is like this.
If you're not healer specced with healer gear this gets pretty rough.

>>586357723
>And nobody went below 80%
You didn't even do the new excavation site dungeon.
Did you heal just RFC/HoT?

>>586357638
anon you DO know you can resize the chat window

So the forever pre order mount is not only "free"
But it scales

So you dont need 200+ gold lol

>>586357957
ez pay to win

>>586357932
Why do people keep saying the wetlands dungeon is hard? The raptor area is like the only place things can get even remotely difficult.

>>586357957
The cost is in the skill to scale it.

>>586357957
proofs?

>>586357952
I know, I did that in the beta too (it doesn't really fit anyway), but just look at how many characters it takes up even before any message appears. It shouldn't be like that.

>>586358023
It's not hard but tanks drop bellow 80% even if you spam heals.

>>586356962
Once optimized routes have been made, 100%
This is also further compounded by legacy points which will shave a few hours off total leveling time.
But a lot of people have been reporting their leveling times have been almost identical to classic.

>>586357957
You still need to train the skill to get it to 60% and then 100% capo

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>IT'S ALL SOLVED, BUT I'LL NEVER FUCK OFF, GIVE ME THE ATTENTION MOMMY AND DADDY FAILED TO GIVE ME
>furiously jerks peepee while auto-erotically asphyxiating myself
you're gonna be a handful on discord for whoever has the displeasure of being within the general chat channel huh

>>586355710
i played it and don't know why (i didn't read the text)

>>586358234
>>586358026
Yeah but you dont have to spend x gold for a mount thus a lot less gold farming

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>>586358382 >>586358497

era chads are not fazed by this garbage

>>586358289
Mounts don't cost much at all in forever, It's the skill to ride that's expensive

>>586356962
>more quests
>rested xp from campfires
>extra buffs from campfires
>5% mob xp buff from food
>3% xp buff from sleeping bag
>more xp from dungeon quests
>stronger talent trees
>legacy talents for alts
Yes it will be faster. The only thing that is slower compared to classic is if you wanted to grind by running the same dungeon on repeat.

>>586358339
>mop has less players than era

lmao

>>586358381
>Yes it will be faster
this again? its been factualy disproven its NOT faster

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>>586358604

>>586357723
>liar_liar.jpg
Yeah, that fits.

bros check the name reservations again if you haven't tried since the first day. someone stole my name while i couldn't log in on the first day and i made a cope name. but i just randomly checked again after a week and they must have deleted their character and i got my original name now :)
i'm so happy i could cry

>>586358382
Well the raids are still buggy and they didn't announce WoD classic so there is no reason to play it anymore.

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>>586358339
The CEO of era has fallen.

>>586358093
We had retards pulling the raptors from the brushes constantly but yeah Dalaran and the Expedition one are harder than the normal dungeons. Had a prot warrior tank and he literally had 0 rage all the time so it could be way easier with a paladin.

>>586358415
Are you still hung up on the devs saying the level time was equal between classic and forever beta? When everyone on classic is speedrunning with restedxp while everyone at the start of beta was roaming around exploring new stuff?

>>586358526
the devs? faggot there's charts all over the internet from players

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>>586358719 >>586358737

>>586358440

>>586358579
link them

>>586358497
>when you can no longer afford to live in your mom's basement from the GDKP RMT you're doing and you're forced to get a job at 40

>>586358640
learn to use the internet

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>>586358780

is this what i have to buy if i bought the 30$ version of wow forever

>>586358604
Me on Thursday after having morning buttsex with my husband

I play male orc btw

>love shaman, crazy nostalgia
>they added wet fart lava burst and then cucked lightning to ele
>they gave the melee magic spec, enhancement, a wet fart instant lightning bolt
>they gave the totem utility & chain heal healer a wet fart hot
Uhhhhhhh...
>rogue 2nd fav class
>2 friends are already rolling rogue
>zero changes (good imo) but which means the class will get ass raped when it comes

>>586358683
So you just made it up to fit your narrative?

>>586358604
Alright, throw me some damage numbers.

i dont wanna level
i just wanna raidlog

>dont have sub, because I dont care for beta
>Still think about good names that cant be reserved because of how obscure yet good they are
>got bis two for my main and alt
>seen some peaks about guilneas and worgen being added
>dont give a fuck for any dlc beyond tbc, but suddenly Ive got an urge to devise a name for femworgen
>got it and laughs to myself whole morning how stupid yet great it is
I think im autistic enough for rppvp

>>586358690
You can activate a one week sub trial from a code but it restrics trade/AH use.

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>>586358843

Forever.... lost!

>>586358734
so you're tech illiterate?

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>>586358993

As a healer, the raptor dungeon was a little more difficult I guess.
But that was because the tank ran right through the tall grass to the boss, pulling all the smaller raptors along the way.
So we wiped once... But is that it?
We run back. Clear.
Classic Andy people were building it up SO much about how thrilling and difficult it all is.
So I actually agree with the retail players that you over-hype stuff.
You won't just say, 'Classic era stuff is a little more difficult. Or it's difficult in a different way. Or--'
You HAVE to go all in on some weird freak stories about epic you have to be to clear basic content. xD
And is it even difficult? The boss meme is that 98 raptors attack you at once? Is that even difficulty?
It's just an epic (xD) moment that catches us off guard.
You're tiresome. Your attitude is tiresome.
And I will never go back to retail again.
But you are tiresome.

>>586358802
Show proof of your claims

>>586358798
Sorry but I'm not playing era

>>586358840
learn2google

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>>586359051

do herbs and ore still apear in dungeons for comfy farming or is it alll gone due to bots?

Autism was a mistake

>>586358847
You made a bullshit claim and got called out immediately. Just take the izzat loss and move on little jeeto.

>>586358772
>Paw, Canine, Woof, Pup, ooo how funny oooo

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>>586359470

which account should i use

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>>586358816
>As a healer, the raptor dungeon was a little more difficult I guess.
>But that was because the tank ran right through the tall grass to the boss, pulling all the smaller raptors along the way.
>So we wiped once... But is that it?
>We run back. Clear.
>Classic Andy people were building it up SO much about how thrilling and difficult it all is.
>So I actually agree with the retail players that you over-hype stuff.
>You won't just say, 'Classic era stuff is a little more difficult. Or it's difficult in a different way. Or--'
>You HAVE to go all in on some weird freak stories about epic you have to be to clear basic content. xD
>And is it even difficult? The boss meme is that 98 raptors attack you at once? Is that even difficulty?
>It's just an epic (xD) moment that catches us off guard.
>You're tiresome. Your attitude is tiresome.
>And I will never go back to retail again.
>But you are tiresome.
ok, solver

>>586358758
same wotlk and cata classic was kino raid 2 hours a week get 99/100s and log out for a week on repeat

good times, never had to worry about gold or anything from vanilla/tbc investments making me hundreds of thousands

>>586358936
Not even close, poor naming skills if youd ask me.

>>586358853
They still exist in WC, so I assume they'd exist in other dungeons as well.

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>>586359121 >>586359176

ANON WHAT DOES THE SCOUTER SAY ABOUT FOREVER LIFECYCLE?

>>586359064
dead on gta release

>>586347301
>no days off around launch because blizzard can't manage smooth launches
>used my remaining vacation days from 24.12 to 15.1 instead
It's gonna be a magical christmas.

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>What's a scouter? Do I rape my sister now

>>586359064
30% drop before molten core
80% drop before bwl
95% drop before aq40

>want to play prot warrior and do PvP on the side
>Know warrior is completely neutered in PvP and won't have the rage to even upkeep mortal strike if ignored
>Meanwhile paladins get cool changes like mini reckon/wfury as capstone talent for retri and spell blocking for prot
Dunno what to do. I mained warrior for so long and prot looks fun but arms is literally a meme spec atm