tauren or nelf druid?
I am also rolling a gnome priest so going tauren for faction balance and novelty would be a good move
but nelfs are sexier, especially since there is no tree form
but ideally I would go balance anyway so that point may be moot
I just don't know...

>>586346785
>tauren or nelf druid?
tauren if you want to play horde
nelf if you want to play alliance
hope this helps

The original game should be removed from the hands of nublizzard. There ia no hope in any other scenario.

>>586346656
the discord links are expired...

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>>586346785
nobody with more than a single shared braincell hosted on the cloud plays horde

AHHHH I can't decide whether to go PVE or PVP!!!!

is it true that haste doesnt affect cooldowns?

>>586347009
Go PVP.
You are playing only half the game if you go PVE.

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>>586347618

I haven't checked the game since it was announced
What has beta changed? What should I expect when I play?

>>586347009
*This post and subsequent replies are sponsored by the PVE society.

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>>586347458 >>586347557 >>586347614 >>586347618

WHITEKINO
https://files.catbox.moe/4lldah.png

>>586346849
You weren't supposed to actually click them

>>586347085
Why would it affect cooldowns?

It does affect GCD unlike in classic but GCD is capped at 1s, so cats and rogues don't get the benefit.

>>586347085
it is true

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>got my days off from the 5th to the 9th
>blanky is ready
>gamerfuel snacks are ready
>all social media and phones destroyed
>Tauren resto druid on the RP realmset

My body is ready.

>>586347204
>>586347218
then skyborne mages dont have a dps racial because the haste does nothing since they have to wait for their rotation cooldown anyway (fire blast, arcane wrath and ice lance/coc)

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>>586347895

>rapes ur stupid orc mind for fucking with our trees

>>586347183
i dont know what happened to you slop bro but you used to be based, i suppose this is how you are processing your trauma and i wish you a quick recovery and the best

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>>586347552

>naming your character after the woman that appears in your dreams
anyone else do this

>>586347448
That's not how it works.

ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL

>>586347517
no I dress up as her while I play the game tho

>>586347183
please get help dude

>>586347537
how come?

>>586347183
>two internal shots
What the hell

>>586347183
oh yay, another degenerate turd world spammer, never seen one of those before in a general.

>>586347097
damn, i don't specifically like any of those burgers except for number 2, because i don't like onions/fried onion rings in my burgers...

>>586347557
>>586347458
>white woman in her natural habitat
>somehow this is a problem

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>>586347750 >>586348068 >>586348234

>Fell for it again award
You don't need to do the same song and dance again

>>586347662
They get to level 30 and get bored?

>>586347453
>when you nut and she still sucking

>>586347662
I plan to level one character to 60 and then quit.
Raiding is just a 2nd job or a compensation for a job for neets.

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>>586347612
You don't delay your spells for a fire blast

>someone streaming WoW or video footage
>paid leveling addon clearly displayed on their screen
Is the overton window so fucked that people accept this as the norm?

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>>586348325

>>586347662
First real raid only releasing in summer is going to destroy so many guilds. Nobody is sticking around to speedrun all these 10-20 man ZGs.

>>586347091
The people who play on PVP are awful chuds though. I wish we could have a PVP server with a PVE server community.

>>586348234
They're reworking everything

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>>586348316
It'c called RP-PvP.

>>586348316
thats rp pvp

>>586348129
ive been seeing sub 1k view videos with rxp referrals

>>586348515
reminds me of solheim. idk how the fuck that dude has any money at all with his view counts.

>>586348515
I was just recommended a Nixxiom video and his complaining about retail, retail writing, retail monetisation and there's a fucking Zygor addon just in the middle of his B-roll footage.
How do people take anyone seriously?

>>586348707
>he actually cares to read NuBlizz agendaslop quest

>>586348774
classic

>>586348707
>How do people take anyone seriously?
some type of biological enshittifiction

>>586348774
who's this?

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Illegal for uk anons

>>586348129
It's not breaking a law, it's just against TOS. But that all kinda falls apart if Blizz not only doesnt decide to enforce it, but uses it themselves. If the people who write and enforce the rules won't do so the the add on is de facto TOS-friendly

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I wonder if seal of righteousness can proc it. You'd get two chances for each command to proc (but command has a 1s cd so would still be at most 3x command).

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>4 days

my gock is literally coughing cobwebs at this point. forever needs to drop i cant keep gooning to pass the time

>>586348976
No it's more just hypocrisy.
If you're scummy all along and have the attitude for doing anything for a check, you have no moral quandries. By contrast we DO raise an eyebrow at say something who id really anti-smoking doing an ad for cigarettes

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Why dont all the people who have to join a discord to get a PvP horde slot just roll on Normal

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>>586350246 >>586350316 >>586350407 >>586350553 >>586350704

>>586346656
<Daybreak Company> is an upcoming casual raiding guild an NA RP-PVE Alliance. Raid times are 530am-830am CST. SR loot, no DKP or loot council. We are recruiting all classes/specs for a 20m core of raiders that will be ready to raid December 12th.
https://discord.gg/b4RHRj26X

When is the pre-install?

>>586350103
you literally could not pick a worse time slot to raid if you tried

>>586349997
Reminds me of that time Bruce Campbell was asked why he was in that terrible movie Congo, he basically lists off every big name associated with the project and looked like it was going to be the next Jurassic Park, the mega blockbuster of the year. And then the movie sucked. At which point he was asked
>So do you regret being in it?
>No, the checks cleared just fine.

>>586350103
what the ACTUAL fuck are those raid times

>>586350103
Unironically these raid times are perfect for me but I already made my main on pvp

>>586350279
Being in a movie that turned out to be bad isn't morally reprehensible, unlike being a two-faced lying rat

>>586350227
already up - the stress test client

>>586348707
his job is making videos about wow, your expectations for his credibility are far, FAR too high.

He gives you his mostly unfiltered-opinions, and if you have an iq above room temp, you will not fall for sponsors that are tangentially-related to his subject matter.

However, if he was advertising gold sellers/boosting services, then yes, that would be a very valid criticism.

>>586350279
And that's why he's the King.

>>586350103
those raid times are fucking ridiculous what the fuck?

>>586350485
Plus it basically gave him a week's vacation in the tropics for just a couple days work as his character is killed off in the first 10 minutes

>>586350470
When your opinion is "retail bad" and you have an add-on that plays the game for you, you don't get to have an opinion.

>>586346910
stroke stroke stroke stroke stroke stroke spurt

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>>586350764

How I look at Blizzard giving an shockadin build a one more beating before release just to make sure it will never be viable.

The new paladin talents seem to be way better overall but man, I was so exited because early beta it really looked like you could had actually played ret paladin that stacks spell power instead of STR and AGI
Moving the Divine Intellect to prot tree from Holy seems like an personal insult to me, Only reason it to be in Prot is to make it impossible players to have it if you want to take Champion of the Light from Ret and Holy Shock from Holy.

But from the other hand the Unsealed wrath seems to be slightly more interesting than twist of light. After the changes Ret doesn't seem that much better maybe, minor buff. But Prot and Holy got new spells from talents and trees seem to be way better.

>>586350103
>have 10 minutes left to kill the boss
>half your raid immediately leaves or they will be late for work.
>not a single person outside of cst will play in your guild
this is legit insane.

>>586350553
I guess they're trying to raid before a 9 am work shift.

>>586350694
I wouldn't mind if they actually gave it the same treatment as feral where you got enough talents in there to actually accommodate shockadin build and a healing build.

Shockadin was always a meme and should have never been seriously supported in any real capacity.

Just give hybrids 4 specs at this point, they obviously want to make Guardian and Feral a thing.

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>>586351223 >>586351780 >>586352410

Did they add mining nodes to Teldrassil or am I still fucked in having to wait to reach Darkshore until I can start mining?

>>586350832
there was a lot of meme builds in wow all the way up through tbc.

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>>586351475

>trivial quests: ticked
the minmaxer cannot comprehend

whats the lore reason why warlocks have to go back to the trainer to learn how to cast shadowbolt even harder

>>586350935
Didn't go mining on my Nelf, but I saw there's "amber" nodes you'll be able to mine at least in the starting area.

>>586351083
>wow if it wasn't run by 40yo karens from hr

>>586351086
he teaches you a trick to throwing it harder than before.

>>586351083
that priest? caged

>>586351332
yeah but 9 times? that sounds like a lot like scientology

>>586351086
Same as other classes id assume. Trainers just teach you how to refine the techniques more and more.
But really its just because its a video game.

>>586351375
How do you think baseball pitchers learn to throw the ball? They visit the warlock trainer.

>>586351005
oh yeah i'll definitely do this

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>>586351762

after the last podcast we just know that fogever is doomed

Will guilds even exist with the raid size available?
Don't know how many of you were around during the transition from vanilla to tbc but when raids went from 40 man to 25 man, many guilds shattered and never recovered and this shit is releasing with only 3 raids and only one is a 40 man and I hardly consider Onyxia a traditional raid

>>586351541
Did you make this meme yourself? Can i save this?

>>586350935
Like >>586351223 said there's amber nodes it a few caves but it's still extremely slim pickings, no nodes on hillsides or anywhere outside of a few caves

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>>586351935

My wild guess is that there will be hints to the future playable races in the parts of azeroth we weren't able to enjoy in the beta.

>>586351757
people pug ubrs so why not the 10man raid?

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>>586351940

>>586351083
no straight white male actually enjoys those lips, this model was made by a porn addicted tranny, not a straight man demanding a bit of fanservice.

>>586351757
I get the vibe theres going to be a lot more pugging but I could be wrong.

>>586351083
The body is good, but that face ew no

>>586351795
They'll add Gilneas and we will get negrow, basically reverse worgen who are wolves that turn into humans rather than humans that turn into wolves.

>>586351824
They're fine actually.

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>>586351762
you can't, I own the rights to it

>>586351819
>>586351843
I'm just saying it's going to be a completely different type of game and not really classic + or vanilla in spirit because of the way raid size is shaping up
You're going to see much smaller guilds and when it does come or if it does come, 40 man raids probably won't be mono guild affairs, but multi guild like I saw during season of mastery

i might have to work on launch day and that's friggen pissed me off

>>586351935
Isn't that just the lycan from World of Darkness?

>>586352191
id quit

>>586352191
The servers are going to be unusable for at least two days. That's why they're launching on a Thursday.

>>586351780
It should be fine. Nothing is worse than going over to Darkshore and starting off with 1 mining.

>>586351935
Can't we just get the vanilla worgen pls

>>586350935
the amber nodes the other anons are talking about were hyper spawning in the spider cave so you should be able to get some skillups there.
the main issue is that you have to wait so long before getting blacksmithing if that's what you're going for

>>586352191
Its going to be fucked day 1. Don't worry about it.
I have the day off but im planning on sleeping in anyway. Same thing I do with poe launches. Let the majority get ahead and spread out. Then when you catch up theyll be getting ready to log off.

>>586352558
tranny

>>586333365
artist name?

>>586352558
Boobs too saggy

>>586351757
Of course guilds will exist. At the base level any guild is a community of friends.
I do think there will be way more smaller guilds now and people will do joint guild raids for Onyxia.
Also although I personally have friends in speedrun guilds that are moving to forever, I think those will quickly leave because there no chance 20 man zg's will be able to keep their autistc brains engaged like 40mans or tbc/wotlk.

>>586352558
boobs not saggy enough
needs torpedo tits

>>586352725
Dario Amodei

>>586352274
considering it
>>586352290
>>586352489
i hope so, i'll probably only miss 4 hours but did want to be there for the start

>>586352782
no shot thats ai

Do you think forever will be more popular than retail?

>>586352862
>no shot
fr fr no cap cuz

>>586352915
The beta was already more popular than the beta

>>586352915
yes. forever will dominate the MMO genre for 1000's of years.

>>586352915
for some time, yeah. once the hype dies, the mazers will be back to the newest retailslop

>>586352915
forever is too simple and has no hardcore raiding or maze+ dungeons
both will exist for different people

>>586352915
no, it's going to die like classic did, in less than 90 days

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Even if the game turns to shit, I don't care, it's the last ride before the end of the world as we know it. And I won't even feel bad since I didn't buy any of these gay bundles, pure sub, I don't need anything else