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I genuinely thing Blizzard is spying on me personally to torture me and nerf whatever I want to play no matter how weak or strong it is at the time. I am personally being targeted out of the entire playerbase.
What's everyone doing until the game drops?I'm practicing my warlock pvp
>>586239020Just pick warrior, the main character class.
I wish they would reduce the rate at which you encounter other players on PvP servers back to 2005 levels which was around 0.5 per hour and around 0 per hour in dead zones like desolace
its going to be kino boys (hunter pet has the other warlock curse)
>>586239048playing classic hardcore
>wanted to try something different this time and make a nelf warrior instead of my usual humie>the warpath amv makes me want to make my red haired humie warrior againfuggg
Here you go bro, here's your new resto druid healing spec. You can remove wildgrowth for 8% less mana cost on wrath if you want.>You can heal if you want anon, just make sure you keep up thorns and insect swarm on the boss alright>Oh and make sure you bring food buffs, water and reagents for the rest of the healers, they bosses really hurt
Btw they also fucked Shockadin with yesterdays talent shift.
>>586239183
>>586239020at the rate theyre pushing insane changes you should expect every single class and spec to switch between absolute dog shit and unbelievably broken about 3 times a month
>2>Turn around>hold lmb+rmb>3>4>let go of lmb+rmb>turn around>1Warlock players really don't mind doing this for 120 hours
I miss Whitemane...
>>586239050I played it before and it's boring if you're not the warrior your guild is funneling gear into and even if you are it gets boring after you get all that gear and are expected to raid log to gear up everybody else
>>586239048Waiting
>>586239307They should change SM Cathedral ending where after she revives Mograine he yells at her to run and he dies like an hero while Whitemane runs off to be a raid boss or something.
>>586239048I'm just doomscrolling 4chan and getting angry. I will also do my job somewhat over the weekend so I can bank up some work to "do" during launch weeks.
>>586239246Don't forget they're only bringing you because their feral tank took the night off because he's been full bis for the last 3 months already
>>586239401More fun if they do an undead scarlet crusade raid with zombie Whitemane and Mog and whatnot
threadly reminder to join a guild and not be a pug peasant.
>>586239048i started having shadowlands pvp ptsd with talent changing before a match
i wish i were from the us of a so i could play with na people from this thread
>>586239048seething
>>586239492I guess this could be a thing if Kel'thuzad decides to be funny.
>>586239497How do I join a good guild?
>>586238935Beware! Your new favorite dungeonDesigned by T. BURTON
Speaking of guilds, any aus guilds on horde pvp? I am very good nice player.
Happy halloween cuties
What potential raid are you LEAST looking forward to?
I was foolish to think that Shaman or Druid could perhaps be better this time. I'll just go Mage because Blizzard will never completely fuck them up.
>>586239585by being someone others would want to play with again
>>586239048Working on my space marine army. I decided to do complicated basing and I already hate it, but the result will be worth it.
>>586239642Raiding in general. I just wanna pvp but know I'll still be forced to raid for gear.
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i dont think "skelf" really works they are not called skyborne elves, they are just skyborne
>>586239642MC. I don't hate it but I can't think of a less good one. Unless they remix it that could be cool.
>>586239651Well mages have the iconic spell blizzard...
>>586239716They're called sexfs
>duo buddy wants to play rogue>I really want to play lockjust dot a mob up, send the VW in, rogue goes in and backstabs while I'm onto the next mob. Rogue takes barely any damage, and the burst helps speed me up, no competing for gear, this could work fine, yeah? Might take a bit of coordination for life drains but between all our CC it should be ok?Alternatively I was thinking priest, could make it easier for him to get dungeon groups having a healer already, and that could be a decently speedy combo for questing too? Although why not pair a tank with a priest?
>>586239651nah man you're thinking about this wrongshaman stock has never been loweryou will be getting in on the ground floor... your return potential is huge when they inevitably receive the giga buff
>>586239497There is so much downstream dysfunction and degeneracy from the fact that people refuse to join guilds these days. If you only pug, the conclusion inevitably follows that all content must be able to be cleared by the band of absolute monkeys that are the average pug.
>>586239716Sky + Elf = Skelf.Blue + Elf = Belf But we already have blood elves.
>>586239608Hope it doesnt have sucha small indoors like all human citadles/forts models do. Claustophobic as fuck for 1-2 players, cant imagine it for 5p.
>>586239684True and real.>>586239727We had early leak screenshot of MC being redone, but it could be fake.
>>586239781>send the Golf in
>>586239787or you can not be a meta-whoring retard and just play whats fun for you? If you want guaranteed spots in a raid team, roll a healer.>586238507fuck off and kys you shitty troll.
Esfand said Paladin still looks fine after the changes, have faith brothers
>>586239781>>586239781Rogue/Lock sounds fine. I played only Rogue during the beta and I had no issues finding groups for dungeons at all. People don't care that much.
>>586239916imagine following an overweight mexican
>>586239932
>>586239979he's persianplease be accurate if you're going to be racist you jiggaboo
>>586239916only the opinion of autistic race-traitor psychos like pallytime matter to me
>>586239979he isint that fat anymore, thank ozempic
i'll be recording clips and taking screenshots this time cause i always regret not doing it
>>586239246>he thinks resto druid was or is going to be invited when they dont have 3% crit aura
>>586239048What mod of Warcraft 3 is this?
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>586239642i hate all 20 mans. i just want to raid 10 mans
>>586239048Earning OG vanilla mogs on retailJust 67 rating to go until I have every single oneThat being said...fuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruidsfuckdruids
>>586239781Been awhile since I've seen an actual, genuine noob. I don't know what the fuck you're even talking about. Your concerns are incoherent to people who actually play this game.>this could work fine, yeah?Uh yes sir.
>>586240112it's a browser gamehttps://www.reddit.com/r/WC3/comments/1xide3i/new_wow_arena_browser_game_with_warcraft_3_models/
imagine still playing wow when the X AI Games studio will make the mmo that will make you feel like you did in 2004 again
>>586240169HOLY BASED
>>586239845>Claustophobic as fuckSeems like you fear narrow crawlspaces..too bad because skeletons and ghouls will be hiding in the dark corridors beneath the haunted Mistmantle ManorI hope its like a huge ballroom and ceiling space above and beneath, like the Raven Hill catatacombs, large underground halls with corpses and tunnels that connect between.I wanna design a dungeon like that so bad.A catacomb so dark, your torch doesnt help, a boss that picks a target and starts following, you cant see it, game doesnt allow you to mark it. If he gets to you, you die and spawn a ghost or something
>i've put 5 talent points in the dps three, i am now unable to tank or healplease tell me you guys dont do this
>>58624016910 man is a glorified dungeon
>>586239845that sounds kino to me
>>586240264>insert picture of warriors and paladins looking for a tank
>>586240264im rping as a prot paladin who has sworn to never shed blood again which is why she wields a mace in battle
>>586240264the average player is a complete bitch and will never tank or they get heart palpitations
>>586240264>put all the talents into the DPS tree>exclusively run dungeons as a healer
>>586240264>>586240305
>>586240070Please don't post my Leroy tanking pulls here...
>>5862402825 mans are peak group contentreplace raids with mythic+
>>586240247Isn't that just the first part of Kharazan Crypts?
>>58624039620 man should be absolute minimum to be called a raid
>>586240382Put on the shield brownie.
GET FUCKEDGET FUCKEDGET FUCKEDGET FUCKED
If you want me to tank as a warrior/paladin pay up 50 gold for the dual spec.
>>586240382this is why its always important to make your own groups. can filter these animals out
>>586240580Put on the shield brownie.
So what's the point of Moonkin form now? Mana regen isn't an issue outside the form anymore, Feral covers the crit buff, and if you're ranged DPS you shouldn't really NEED the extra armor.
>>586239246Your bloom, bro? What are you going to do with -2% mana cost fon healing touch and tranquility? You might as well pick bloom for like 350-400 extra healing after your rejuv/regrowth. Imp tranquility is also a meme.
>>586240397The SOD thing? Dont know, never played it. Is it?Id imagine its not as dark and macabre themed as the general Duskwood/Sleepy Hollow aesthetic.Mistmantle Manor actually connects with Raven Hill cemetery, or one of the other cemeteries in Duskwood via a vast network of pitch black crypt tunnels and halls, full of horrors beyond your imagination? Stitches and Eliza were just the beginning? The Embalmer has created several other, more despicable abominations and kept them sealed underground? Thaddius-like boss that walks slow, following you through the catacombs?We'll see
You think we're going to get the felchud as a tier set bonus?
>>586240264thats just the excuse from people who get anxious of the idea of leading the group. its bitch made shit.
>>586240070I've considered twitch streaming my forever journey.
>>586240636You bring the player not the class to raids in Forever.
>>586240669it'll be a glyph
>>586240669Blood Furnace HC was fun
>>586240693lol you're funny
>>586240636Accepting all your implicit assumptions in your hypothetical idealised parsetroon scenario, yes there is obviously no point.
>>586240396Delete mythic+ and raids, make more brd and brs dungeons instead.
>dwarf shaman is gonna be so much fun!
>>586239715Thanks, this also werks in Netherlands.
>>586240669How would that look on females?
>>586240636Boomkin aura still stacks with feral's, so you collectively up everyone's crit by 6% instead of an individual spec's by 3.
>>586240648Why would I want more overhealing? At least with tranquility I can get one tick of healing before everybody is max health again, that 1 talent point saves me 2% mana if that happens, bloom does literally nothing at all.
>>586240768>>586240669Aislopper we need you
Why do people put up with being benched ? I've only been benched twice in all my years of playing and I just gquit to find a different guild
why are they called rare mobs if 99% of them drop uncommons
>>586240771Source?
Why do people put up with the concept of raiding? Eventually you come to realize wow endgame is world pvp while leveling.
>>586240771Human arms wayer>1% racial>5% axe weapon>6% druids>5% mandatory cruelty talent>1% from agility food buffwtf
Let's assume that rogues do 50% less damage than every other class, and furthermore they remove stealth, all stuns, and lockpicking from rogue. Then there would be no point in rolling a rogue, am I correct?
>>586240264what is the even the difference between being a tank and dps in classic
>>586240843what if you cant because no one wants your spec
>>586240912you raid so you can world pvp at 60
>>586240785Because plenty of times people take damage while your hot is up on them and rejuv/regrowth expires. Especially on a tank. Have you even played the game?
>>586240958I dont find much enjoyment in killing lowbies in stv
>5 MORE DAYS5 MORE DAYS>5 MORE DAYS5 MORE DAYS>5 MORE DAYS
>>586240912You raid to get better gear and gank lowbies more efficiently
>>586240975>18 second cast time
>>586240975Umm no sweetie, hots are literally useless in classic. Shamans will snipe it all with their insane chain heals and then you will be mocked, and most likely gkicked. At least in any serious guild.
will priest be good
>>586239741I never cared about chinese gold seller tier bot famring techniques. Mage is a fun class with a complete tool kit and tons of flavour.>>586239787Shaman and Druid are my favourite classes, but I think the developers fundamentally misunderstand Shaman and these recent Druid changes are going to take some time to get over tbqh. Why they didn't just nerf the numbers as opposed to REMOVING the abilities, I have no idea.
>>586241008didn't say ganking
>>586241014Man I love Gnomes.
>>586240958>Ill treat leveling and the entire raid process as a slog and grind to get through so then my real life can begin
>>586240892That's how auras & totems work. They don't overwrite one another. Would be stupid to change that for one class.
>>586241047yes
>>586241014Sex
Best class as a dad gamer who only has 10 seconds a day to game?
>>586240975>Just keep HOTS on everybody all the time on the off chance maybe they take unexpected damage and you time it JUST right and get 30% effectiveness on your bloom instead of casting wrath and insect swarm to kill the boss faster, effectively reducing needed healing anywayYou live in a fantasy world if you think there is any reason to just spam rejuv on everybody constantly for 2 hours straight
>>586241078Yeah that's called motivation, my lil gup
>>586241035good for u
I've never played alliance on classic before. How do they normally get to the barrens/ratchet for the first time?
>>586241089its the same buff
>>586240975>anti-synergy with revamped Swiftmend>anti-synergy with Nature's SplendorSomebody get this BEGGAR out of here
>>586241135or you can just world pvp while leveling
>>586241008faggot
>>586241159Run south from ashenvale in 20s or run through STV and take the boat.
>>586241058then what else is there? organized 1v1 duels thats gay
>>586241159>>586241205westfall lighthouse swim to booty bay much betterer
I'm maining rogue on a PVE server. I will be the only rogue in the raid and get all the gear.I will also top DPS in dungeons. Usually in TBC I was 40 to 50% of group DPS in dungeons. Because your spreadsheets and AI Sims don't account for 99% of players being dogshit.
>>586241271huh?re-read the post >>586240958
>>586241159Through Ashenvale or Stonetalon.Horde is retarded and has a damaged wall on the border with no guards.
if you're a sex haver with a job/family you're a retard if you roll pvp. that ruleset is only for literal retarded neets and or streamers who get paid to pay the game
>>586241271For me, it's going to blackrock mountain or perhaps dire maul and seeing what's up.
>>586241305Sorry, all gear is going to the feral druid so he can ACTUALLY contribute to the raid.
>>586241046This isn't classic tho. They're killing infinite mana whack-a-mole with downranked heals. And even in classic you got fights like sapph. Try healing it without wbuffs.
there are "people" in this general unironically talking about things such as getting heal sniped so their meter aint as high as it would beimagine being in this mindsetimagine this being your reason to play the game
>>586241376Why do you care how others play the game?
>>586241371Sorry I was being a sarcasm frog teehee.
>>586241130magethats enough time to sell one portal to darnassus
>>586241327Its damaged because its encroaching on ancestral night elven clay and heroic alliance patrols are working on getting rid of itits a wonder its even still standing really
if u roll on pve you aint a real man
>>586241419because Im stupefied by it
>>586239715Will you get banned for this?
>>586241528thanks xister
>>586241559yes
>>586241089What other identical buffs stack?
>>586241559you lose nothing but an empty account from getting banned
>>586240282that's why i like it.
>>586239715i actually did this a few hours ago, not because i was upset about anything i just don't want to make a skelf anymore
>>586239492SoD already did that
>>586241327If you are going to Stonetalon starting from Ashenvale wouldn't you just take the Talondeep Path?
why is fury allowed to be double the dps of arms
>get jumped by rogue>ebb and flow of rogue going through all his bullshit myriad cooldowns trying to kill me vs me trying to stabilize (if it were tbc or later expansion I would be already dead cause in each expansion more bullshit I-Win buttons are added to rogue)>rogue blows most of his cooldowns but I'm still alive>rogue decides to finish the fight (he has the option to safely disengage at almost any point during any fight, he just for whatever reason decided not to this time)>finally in a position where I can get a cast off and he doesn't have yet another bullshit cooldown to nullify it>the frostbolt+fireblast combo/aimed shot/mind blast unexpectedly crit as he's running towards me and he unceremoniously drops deadI think I'm starting to appreciate rogue world pvp cause wins feel earned.
Surely they'll get to the ele shaman rework before launch, r-right?
>>586241773Because he wields 2 weapons instead of 1.
>>586241795eyonix has been working on the shaman rework for 20 yearstrust the plan
Created this for you (open world pvp tier list)
>>586241773because arms is ableist, think of the players m\with missing limbs!
>>586241795The issue with ele isn't even their talents. It's the shit numbers on their spells.
>>586241858you rly think trolls are that good?I was thinking troll warrior, seems like the juiciest troll class to memost classes don't get much health regen from spirit
>>586241795hopefully, EM rework is so boring but at least Lava Burst isn't the 31 point talent now
>>586239126drop the shadow priest for another warrior
>>586241940It's both.
I find it odd that people are unironically dooming.>xbox jeeta loves forever>weekly podcast>fast changes and actually listening to feedback in a good way while shutting down retoilet whining>amv and the comedy nature documentary shit>entire campaign in wc3 to tie to the game>sent players to norway on a forever based adventure thingLike no other version of WoW has ever received this much love and extra content. No other version of WoW has dev podcasts addressing the community and feedback, answering actually tough questions. No other version of WoW is getting French animation studio AMVs or getting silly comedic content.Anyone dooming must be actually retarded. This is going to be the biggest thing since original WotLK launch.
>>586241368Even with leader of the pack and battle rez and innervate a feral druid is a net DPS loss to any vanilla WoW raid.
>>586241305i am also maining rogue on pve server (eu). hopefully not many people play it and hopefully they put in some overpowered lockpicking shortcut or something like that in the 10 main raid to make it worth bringing a rogue to it
>>586239932Fuck, it's almost here. I need to start planning my snack rotations and name for my character.
Getting really tired of the constant drip feed updates, I guess it's a marketing scheme for engagement or something but it feels like they don't know what they're doing
>>586241858>human rogue C tier>troll rogue S tierComplete retard gibberish and fully disregarded.
>>586241078leveling is exactly that
>>586242268>snack rotation
what's the azeroth survivors tier list
>>586241376Here's the thing: parsing is like a different gamemode from regular raiding. Just like speedrunning is not the same as playing a game normally. There's nothing wrong with challenges like that and they can add plenty of depth to a game especially when you doing the same raid 10+ weeks in row. ONLY problem is that certain types of individuals consider it to be the only viable style of play. But those are a small minority.
>killed holy shock Ret Pala because esfat was crying people didn't pick his faggot seal twist talentAnd just like that I refunded and won't renew the subHope someone twists esfats neck instead
>>586242452oh noooo my favourite fake and gay sim specit's so heckin over
Healer should be healing, not dpsing.
>>586241858I think you're really overrating trolls because of some stupid bandage racial.
Blizzard needs to nerf feral druids to balance the druid class out a little bit
>>586242246I was in a Naxx farming guild in vanilla. One of the best in the world. Recorded forever with a world first in Sunwell TBC.Our 40 man raid team had 5 rogues.
>>586242328>he does not have savory and sweet for minmaxed leveling performance
Need to figure out my drug rotation...
>>586242452seal twisting is the gayest fucking playstyle, I quit SoD immediately when it became a thing
>>586242585Nobody cares unc.The classic meta is bringing one rogue, put the expose armor in the bag little bro. Better be up in 2 GCDs.
>>586242585one of the best in vanilla is like a random pug hosted by a mouthbreather now
>>586240929if the only consideration is position on the meters then yeah sure
>>586241643Valid reason. I feel like you only need Skelf for Horde, to play Shaman.
>>586242452wdymNow you can get holy shock and max out the holy hit talent, champion of the light, vengeance and 2h spec, which you couldn't do before
>>586242326for you
>>586242328>he macros his food into a single meal
>>586242649>expose armor when you have 30 warriors who could put the superior sunder onTell me you've only ever pugged without telling me lil gup
>>586242452>>586239250is that really because of that retard jeet? was he complaining on the stream?
>>586241858Human Hunter should be higher than night elf, a stun trinket is much better than a vanish that doesn't even drop combat
>>586242782IEA is better than sunder little bro.
>>586242452>esfat was crying people didn't pick his faggot seal twist talentdid he come around about it?I remember him hating it on the demo reveal, that and judgement not consuming your seal.I don't get why they didn't make judgement give you a quarenteed seal of command proc or something and call it a day
>>586242313Yes, I think human rogues are actually D tier. They can be playable in the mirror duels, but in the open world? To use perception you need to know if a stealth class is around, and it almost not useful at all if another rogue vanishes. Your main counter is orc which has the stun reduction which messes your timings up. Stun removal? Ok, I'll blind you and reset. Fears, roots can be removed only once. Ugly body 1 models. F tier
>>586239715I just refunded my skyborne edition. But I feel like I'm fucked now.. what about the free mount? My gold management is horrible and I'll probably learn Enchanting.
>>586242814because it's a fade not a vanish faggot
two huntershunter x hunteralexstrasza and my testiclesdragon ball
should a healer be expected to pitch in on damage if there is nothing to heal
>>586241876give rogues a 50% damage buff in dungeons and raids to instantly fix the class
>my resto/balance druid main just got buffed and has essentially become the best pve/pvp healerDabbing on nigsDabbing on nigs of lifeYou are my endless seaYou are my sky above
>>586242814stun trinket does not do shit against blind and being able to go invisible before some nigger reaches you gives way more utility
>>586242931expected, nobut you should, it's fun
>level NE hunter to 27 taking it slow, gearing properly, station it in Stonetalon>level druid to 33 taking it slow, gearing properly, station it in Alterac Mountains>quit the gameand how will your journey be like
>>586242931Most important is to make sure that you never run out of Magic. But if you're confident then it's fine.
>>586242828IEA isn't a talent anymore broski
>>586242921I'd let alexstrasza dragon my balls if you know what I mean.
>>586242931If your stupid ass is just standing around with close to full mana looking at the group killing a mob then yeah get your ass in gear nigga
>>586242931its how you can tell if your healer is good or not
>>586242931no you should let mana regen kick in instead unless the fight you are doing is completely trivial
>>586242814With NE you can just go afk or choose not to engage if you are camping a spot such as Valormok
What's a cool surname that is universally good? I mean some faggy stuff like Xaryu uses "Gg" or dbz? hxh? desu? Op? Forever?
>>586242931healing in classic is by far the easiest role so yeah why wouldnt you want to contribute on dps
>>586243097patelgoldberg
>>586242970>best pvp healer>removed GCD reduction>wild growth is a 3 second hardcast nowit's holy priest btw
>>586242906I don't think you understand what I'm saying but that's okay, retard.>>586242973World PvP is when I try and avoid World PvP got it.
>>586242637Sod paladin was aids. Carpel tunnel simulator. Same with sod warrior>Press bloodthirst>Whirlwind>Wild strike >Ah shit instant slam proc press it fast>Ah fuck need to track my rage and spam heroic strike more >Fuck fuck fuck I gotta swap stance to overpower>Keep rend up
>>586242931go for it if you're confident you won't go OOM / nobody will die
>>586243039cry some more little bitchone more word out of you and you're kicked, dpscuck
>>586242931If the healer isnt healing then you arent pulling enough mobs.
>>586243030Good point, there should be zero rogues then in a raid.
>>586243113I prefer to take it easy when running a dungeon
>>586243130>no GCD reduction (like all the other healer)>holy priest>kitingtop keque
>>586243132>mage nigger runs towards me>i press shadowmeld to prevent him from sheeping me and forcing him to come closer>warlock nigga tries to send his demon to me i press shadowmeld so it cannot target me>zug zug warrior tries to get in charge range>press shadowmeld so he cannot charge meyou have the most raped outlook on things it is fucking sad to see
>>586243132Meld isn't a combat pvp talent, it's for hiding before engaging. It's only in combat use is PvE only as it reduces your threat. Learn how the game works before giving advice.
Not gonna install your faggot ass guides.Not gonna watch your faggot ass streamers.Not gonna join your faggot ass groups.Not gonna do your faggot ass quests.I WILL be mob grinding to 60.
>>586242784Every palagroiper change is because of him whiningI don't know why they keep listening to that retarded fat paki, he's a mongoloid who's only achievement in life is being asmongloids pet dancing monkey.They changed racials exactly to what he wanted, and EVERYONE hated them. So then they changed them to what they are now
>>586243073wanding is free
How do you stop feeling jealous when your favorite tank buddy is grouping up with other healers?
>>586242970>best pvp heal>no dispel
>>586243272>be warlock or hunter>just park your pet right next to you when shadowmelded on aggressiveokay
>>586242970hard to be the best pve healer if you are not in the raid bro
>>586241858horde skelves should be higher because the move speed increase stacks with mount going to be running people down all day
>>586243334>getting jealous that the tank has another cocksleeveYa should've rolled dps bro
>>586242931It's the mark of a true gamer. The healers who just stand around because "its not my job to do dmg" are some suspect kind of people
After all, why shouldn't I?
>>586243097Forever is the most popular surname
I played through wc3 RoC again to decide which race I liked best and decided on orc. How difficult is it to create a character on the pvp server on release if everyone was already allowed on to reserve names?
>>586242585ok buddyits a bit pointless trying to convince people on an anonymous forum that you are good at a 3 button game though
>>586243334This made me not want to roll tank if my friend is going to be some sort of jealous sissy and gets off on the idea of healing me
>>586243334>>586243376I know people joke but with these posts and that one guy from the previous thread.Is tanking the way to get an actual harem in game? or is prot warriors only who have that "rizz" as the zoomers say.
>>586243398because you're not a caged sissy faggot?
>>586243374It lasts 15 seconds for 30% it's not that big, add mount timing and it's not that amazing
>>586243326only 1 out of 4 healers can wand
>>586243412>orcbased. we don't know anything you don't already. you'll have to find out with everyone else
>>586243412it's a 50/50 kind of thing
I have noticed tanks getting really friendly with me after I heal them through a dungeon or two
>>586243240casuals who "just want to chill" will be the death of this game
>still haven't picked a race for my priestnelf would be the safe choice but I might want to save it for a warrior since they look better in plate than clothgnome comes in second but they just aren't quite as good looking
>>586243307You're an actual fucking retard. Meld can be used to cancel an enemy spell.
Rest in peace nate higger
>>58624346730% speed differential lets you catch anyone in the open world>add mount timing and it's not that amazingtalking about 60
>>586243475Everyone else can autoattack. Those 2h staves hit hard.
>>586243501what classes were they? us healer mains should be more careful if people just see as faggots
>>586243348>drops freezing trap on the petcongrats nigga you played yourself
>>586243507nelf priest is the clear winner because of elune flip hidden passive
>>586243518It still lasts 15 seconds, by mount time I mean you have to use it then mount, I don't think you can use it while riding
>>586243507human is the answer
>>586243447>that one guy from the previous threadwhat happened there?
>>586243424Back into the toilet you go
>>586242585whats your plan for forever
>>586240847why are they called uncommons?they should be called greens
>>586243507Human or you are just trolling.
>>586243537female warriorsif you dont want a pet that wiggles their tail whenever they get to talk to you stick to healing men
>>586243597One of the anons lurking in these generals said he was rolling a tank warrior and had an actual in game harem of women who played healers to get carried most of them were stay at home military wives. Sad!
>>586243580>>586243626don't care about racials and neofoids look like dogs
>>586243307>Learn how the game works before giving advice.You come in here acting like you know the game when you clearly don't. Meld is usable in combat in Forever and can cancel spell casts or channels when used against players. This is shit people figured out day 1 of the beta.
datamine warlock change:Wrack removedreplaced with:Improved Nightfall"Nightfall causes your next Shadow Bolt to strike all nearby enemies."
>>586243502nah Im just not putting in any extra effort until I see the rest of the pug is ok.
>>586243557>waste GCD CCing pet>immediately activate bestial wrath raping you instantlybig brain plays
Female undead paladin with the chink no bones modelNight elf warriorHuman female priestIn that order
>>586243603i basically havent played retail since mop (tried wod and bfa for couple weeks only), i just did the couple hundred mb download to login and have a quick look a couple weeks ago
damn... I guess protection warriors is actually the main character class. gonna roll one and see if I can't get nudes of some bored milf playing this game.
>aggrend's hispanic boywife>brand risk poppin>literal who>griftman and asian paladin>literal who mdi worker>homoerotic ninjalooting manchildEvery single podcast guest has been awful
>>586243705
>>586243153>a-are those actual buttons to press and dynamic rotations>I'M GOING INSANE FUCK YOU AGGREND HOW COULD YOU DO THIS I JUST WANT TO AUTO ATTACK AND QUEUE UP HS
>>586242931not in classic dungeons.5 second rule is much more important than healer dps.
>>586239104>>586239104>>586239104>>586239104>>586239104>UPDATEI took a big fat stinky shit and then used my shower head to give myself a bidet enema
>>586243153I agree with the other anon. This doesn't seem like that much APM compared to even WC3.
>>586243514
>>586243823Needing StarCraft gook APM to play baby raids isn't fun, sorry if that truth nuke offends you swarthoid
>>586243829>t. never healed through an actual dungeon in vanilla
>Multiple people that literally built their wow career on pvp server are tellling people to roll pve because layers and sharting makes wpvp even more trash with nothing happening at best or only annoyance at worst because that is all you can do in wpvp nowumhh
>can't make horde character.>use another account to make an alliance character.>on main account make horde character.Why were people complaining? They can just do this.
>>586243829if the healer is capping on mana then the group isnt moving fast enough or pulling enough mobs. if the healer is sitting at full mana he might as well contribute on damage to get more total mana usage over the course of the run.
>>586243936proof?
was gonna main warlock but holy pala looks really fkn good
>>586243717>he thinks my bestial wrath pet is not already raping you at this pointsevere skill issue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTZzXdWXsLk
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GAME
>>586244126>>586243936
>>586243880Did you actually play it?No? Then shut the fuck up.I did. It was aids. It was like playing DragonForce riders of the storm in guitar hero on the hardest difficulty Paladin and warrior were the only classes with this issueWith palas you were forced to seal twist so you were constantly spamming seals, but you're also trying to spam judgement, crusader strike, divine storm, exorcism, all of which are short cooldowns or have constant procs that reset their cd, so you need an add-on to track that too, all while trying to sneak in a consecration and managing your trinkets and myriad of other on use items
>>586243829no reason to think forever dungeons wont be easier than ever before. a healer is just a dps who has a side job making sure people dont die.
>>586242951You mean 100%?
>>586243936Nice fanfic swarthoid, but the real reason is>I am a little bitch and don't want to get ganked, it's bad for my stream :(((
>>586244126mods!this is hate speech!
>>586243936TrueWant to cartel devilsaur like in old times? You can't because the guy coming to skin raptors will respawn into another layer and shard and never will see him again EVER
>>586244126>self-declared pvpver>is some skinny bald scrub
>>586239715is this legal?
>>586244208the balancing factor will be idiotic warrior kiddies who have to 2h tank or something instead of just equipping a shield like a normal person would. and other stupid shit
>>586243153>carpal tunnel simulatorI'll agree that Warrior in vanilla clearly had the most buttons to press and maybe even the same in SoD (didn't play that trash), but you are pathetic. Fury in Vanilla doesn't even come close to retail rotations from even 12 years ago. Imagine having all those buttons to press, but you also have to do like 3 different mechanics at a time, and managing 20 different procs, and your trinket, and burst phases with bloodlust. No one wants retail shit in Forever, but every class should feel as fun to play as Fury in Vanilla imo. And if you can't even handle that, then just go play mage on era and be a frostbolt dispenser.
I swear everyone crying about people pointing out WPvP sucks cocks literally mad people don't want to get ganked because it's true, you literally do nothing but ganking in WPvP now
>>586244321everyone who call other people skinny are giga fat themselves
>>586244321It's a former PVP World Champion. Did you expect WoW player to look like Gigachad?
>>586244126It's easier to sell leveling guides for PVE rulesets.
>>586244368its gankers and griefers mad that their victims are gonna leave
>>586243936you mean that bald dadgamer? lol
>>586244126tldw:>muh wife, family, friends will be playing on PvE>15 min of coping after that
>>586244393>PVE i will take my time leveling because i have nothing to worry about>PVP i must buy a leveling guide so i can hit 60 so i can gank before they can gank me!
>>586244368>you literally do nothing but ganking in WPvP now...what do you think wpvp is? typing /duel at enemy faction character?
>the raped pve has returned yet again
>>586244350Not him but I don't think gcd locked retail rotations are inherently fun and I definitely don't think that every class should be that way.
>>586244368PVE kids always put themselves in the spot of the victim. They are ALWAYS the ones getting ganked, never the ones doing the ganking.
>they don't play on the rp pvp server where the experience is 10x better because you can just get a guild to help you with gankers
>>586244350Can you read retard? I clearly said IN SODSod is not classic. Classic is where you press one button and the raid has no mechanics. Sod warrior and pala were aids to playMeanwhile rogues literally just spam envenom, melee hunters just spam 2 buttons, ele sham spams lightning bolt and sometimes lava burst. Moonkin spams Starfire and wrath in alternation
How did he do it?
The only faggots complaining about wpvp are newbies who started to play recently and went through the grinder without realizing what they are doing wrong or weak-ass losers who cant take getting imposed on.Literally just avoid the most crowded zones and relog to an alt before you get tilted. Thats it.
>>586244583>people who don't really want to pvp aren't the ones seeking out and instigating pvpwow what a revelation
Apart from the Streamers, where are the "good" PvPers? Horde or Alliance? Or what was historically the "stronger" faction? I feel like hardcore sweats will decide on racials, so Forever might be different than Classic / Retail.
You have to be genuinely brain damaged to want to play PvP with layers. Like nigga your gank victim will just layer swap. Like nigga you'll never meet the same person after playing for a week. Nobody will fucking remember you. You'll never be some infamous epic ganker. People will just think "Wow this guy is a huge faggot" and then forget about you in 10 minutes after layering, lol.
>>586244484On PVE you can follow the guide to the letter.On PVP you will have to change zones/quests you are doing if a specific area will be ganked.
>>586244583>chuds go out of their way to make PVP server unplayable for people who don't want to kill randos>"wtf why are people choosing PVE"Reap what you sow
>>586244665H
>>586244629Why does it matter? What are we supposed to take from this? That we are supposed to blindly believe any larp "leak" that gets posted here? It was a random anon not a twitter account or something that people could actually follow for leaks.
>>586244629>wild growth is gonewhich its not so he was wrong
please please please play pvp with me and my favorite streamers. if you don't come there won't be any content..
>>586244632Or just play on the PVE server
>>586244629He sustained 15 DPM.
>>586242921recently learned hunter x hunter was pronounced "hunter hunter" and it blew my mind
>>586241858>human hunter in C tierstopped right there,you are a retarded subhuman and you don't play the game
>>586244681>you will have to change zones/quests you are doing if a specific area will be ganked.lol pvpers actually want you to believe they're out here struggling to survive / fighting for their lives out there lol
>>586244492a waste of time in wowwithout layers and shit you could literally lock an area and then others would maybe come around and team up to free up the zone making out something funNow what? >i am such a fucking kinnnnnnnnggggggggg lv60 one shotting this lv30 cuck ahahaha>layer happen and you will never see it againso fucking fun for everyone involved
>another thread>another unprompted pve sissy meltdownit's ok you can just play on pve, I don't mind
>>586244830they really are bitching about a server they don't even play on lol.
>nooo noooo in battlegrounds i will show you!>gets absolutely molested by a pvp server premadekek
>>586244881premades will go up against premades they said.
>>586244830I genuinely dont care if they want to play on pve, but half the time it just feels like being upset that pvp happens on a pvp server
>>586242814>>586243132kek you are arguing with actual sub 80 iq subhumans it's better to just ignore them
>>586244632No, I love toxic PvP (I'm serious) I don't mind getting killed. This is literally the only dopamine spike in my life.I'm just afraid of a factiom imbalance. Because I don't trust blizz with all that balancing bullshit. I'm 100% certain it won't be 50/50. Nigga I'm not even sure how they balance that???>Balance per created char?>Balance per account?>Balance per logged in chars?It was hell in the beta... so I'm afraid nigga.
>>586244673>you'll never meet the same person after playing for a week.Everything else you said is true except this. WoW tries to layer you with people you've interacted with before, and that includes attacking/being attacked by in wpvp
>shitters pick pve>they know deep down they are just playing a demo of the game by doing this>come to fucking 4chan to make up excuses for choosing pve when nobody asked
>>586244927pvp premades can still play against pve premades because bg queues are regionwide
>>586244824you don't get it, everybody loves that moment when you reach the gates of blackrock mountain, get demounted, and discover there are 8 rogues in the hallway and a scattered raid sitting around. now that's lots of fun epic skill-based 1v50 pvp, you can't get those 6 corpse runs on pve!
>>586244971source?
>>586244629It's not real. He stated mostly completely obvious things and Wild Growth didn't get removed and not all wrath talents have been hit either. The only thing I think is crazy is that they actually did just remove Orc Crit. Why do humans get crit and a stunbreak, while orcs get minor magic reduction active, minor stun reduction passive, and a pet passive for only 2 classes in the entire game? If they were worried about Orcs having Crit and a DPS active, then just change perception to be a dps active instead of taking away the crit.
>>586244997ahh i thought you meant pve solo shitters going up against pvp premadesbut yeah either way the pve premades are going to get GAPED by Pvp chads
>>586244938if you create a single character on horde side that entire account counts as 1 horde player
>>586245028I was constantly killing this nigga Nate Higger in the beta.
My favourite pve cope is the "if I want to pvp i'll just toggle it on :)" knowing full well they never will.stop making excuses for playing on baby mode lil gup.
>pvpschizo fighting the whining pvefags in every thread
>>586243705affli is dead spec anyway, destro has best ST, cleave and aoe
>>586244938dont they just freely mix realms and shit now?
>>586243705>pray for a 4% proc to get a singular aoe shadowboltlost the plot
>>586239716can we just call them smurfs?
>>586244824oh I seeso your entire idea of wpvp is coming to a low zone as 60 and wait until you get taken out
>>586245169>destrodead too. demolock is best dps anything else is just griefing. no fun allowed
>>586239716ill just call them niggers
>>586239716It does work everyone knows what you mean and it rolls easy off the tongue
>>586245282>boss braps in aoe>succubus fucking dies>random trashpack has cleave>succubus fucking diesbased 2004 pet pathing hard at work
>>586245282sims are using r1 incinerate lmao, its gonna have 3 ranks
i thought wrack seemed neat
I kinda want to make a gnome priest...It's so over for me.
Now that Warlock and Druid are dead I don’t know what class to play.
When classic released there was surprisingly high amount of ppl in the open world which just played like total newbsWill it be the same in forever?
>>586245326pets have avoidance and scale with gear anon. also sounds like pet skill issue
>>586245394>no shadowfurywarlock was dead from day 1
>>586245394are you retarded? did you see the tournament?
>>586242236You'd take a feral druid offtank solely because there was raid drops specifically designed for them that nobody else gets any use out of and druid tier gear dropped just as much as anybody elses, but there was less druids to give it to. It was just to absorb loot and reduce disenchanting epics
>>586245142Neither of those anons. I am extremely worried about PvP though with this crappy ass sharding system and mega servers. You will be seeing so many different people all the goddamn always that you will never feel like you have rivals you consistently fight against while leveling. Most of your encounters will be inorganic. Players will abuse cross-zone sharding to reset fights. Players will abuse layer hopping by storing world refreshes or getting invited. You will never be "the big name" on your server even if you're a god tier player, because there is simply too many people and the 30 streamers rolling there will be hogging all the attention from their cohort of simps. Killing the streamers, even without intentionally griefing or sniping them, risks getting your account banned if they bitch hard enough. And now RP-PvP is fucked because it's going to be infested by people who just want to make alts on opposing faction and it will essentially become Crusader Strike from SoD (rp-pvp server that got so anti-rp Blizzard changed it to just a pvp server). PvP just seems like it will be inorganic, uninviting, sovlless slop and it makes me sad. Gone are the days where you log into Nost and have guilds duking it out over zones during the AQ gate opening or 5 of the best guilds on the server all sweatily competing for Azuregos tag. It will just be a flood of random ganking and not much else. And it's going to be extremely unbalanced with all these rapid fire class changes and how strong characters already were on the beta.
>>586245407Yes, lots of people are trying to advertise wowf as a jumping on point with a lot of people saying they'll be picking it up for the first time. You'll be able to farm scouts and privates all day long.
I really hope they dont fuck with pet pathing. One of the funniest moments I've had was in UBRS when a Hunter forgot to dismiss his pet before jumping into the gauntlet and everyone berated him while we all waited for the swarm of mobs to kill us.
>>586245454>warlock only has 3 gorilion cc options instead of 4its over locksisters. i knew i shouldve stucked to low iq warrior and farm blizzdev sympathy buffs
>>586245394We are all going to main a warrior.
>>586243272True pvplet>i press shadowmeld to prevent him from sheeping me and forcing him to come closerThe mage _wants_ to come closer to you. You're doing exactly what he wants by not engaging from max range and trying to keep that range. The mage's preferred range is 6-7 yards from you.>warlock nigga tries to send his demon to me i press shadowmeld so it cannot target meAssuming classic mechanics, the warlock pet will hover over you because shadowmeld is not a vanish, it's a stealth. Regardless, he wants to close in on you to get to fear range. You achieved nothing.>press shadowmeld so he cannot charge meOr you could, you know, get him in combat so he can't charge you. What is exactly the point of this endeavor if you're just gonna let the warrior walk into melee range instead?Note that all of these leave your pet free to attack unless it has prowl, in case you're forced to use a cat instead of one of the other families that actually have decent pet abilities.
>>586245407Yes. There is a massive influx of noobs.
whats the point of raiding when you can have fun pvping while leveling
>>586245480duels don't matter to anyone anywhere and you will never play either of those classes well enough for their advantages to matter.
>>586245407Probably, you gotta keep in mind the average player is just not good at games in general, like, at all. Even on a basic mechanics level. Even the worst PVE player hre that hates PVP like it's the anti-christ would style on your average random wow player.
>>586245556Why would that even be comparable you don't raid while leveling
>>586243272>>i press shadowmeld to prevent him from sheeping me and forcing him to come closerI hope you realize they will just Blizzard you out of it.
>>586245597hehe i troll u
>>586245507here's a crazy idea, just make a character on the pvp server and make a character on the pve server and if you're not having fun, switch over and don't go back.
>>586245407I was in the beta. The place with the most addicted of WoW players, willing to drop 60 bucks to play a wiped beta (let's forget about the mcdonalds way, normies didn't know about that). I came across hundreds, maybe even thousands, of subhuman iq players. Keyboard turners. Backpeddling in duels (not tactical backpeddling like deadzoning a slowed warrior). Tanks who saw I had 100% mana, never dropped below 80% health, never lost aggro, and still would pull 1 mob at a time. People who somehow fell on the WC jump (you can just run across the gap). Don't worry anon, launch is going to be full of crappy noobs!
>>586245625why raid
>>586243272you are such a raped retard it's not funny anymore
give it to me straight bros how bad did resto druid get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddL-EX6SDwA
How much of a difference is skelf druid compared to nelf druid?
>>586245840not very bad people are whiny faggots
>>586245840>resto gets bloom>wild growth rightfully nerfed to filter out scrub spammerswe're eating good lad
female human magepvpsolo
Where ogre?
>>586245736I wish I met more of those. I had a bunch of over confident tards. Dudes trying to tank dextren ward at 20
PvE with PvP flag on has the best wpvpplently of people will flag themself on pve
so if warmode is just a pvp shard. why not just make it a pve + warmode server? that way it's a bigger megaserver and everyone gets everything?
>>586245889I'm also advocating for one server with PvP toggle the whole time. It's just the best of both worlds.
>>586245507>I am extremely worried about PvP though with this crappy ass sharding system and mega servers. You will be seeing so many different people all the goddamn always that you will never feel like you have rivals you consistently fight against while leveling. Most of your encounters will be inorganic.But it was like this already in classic. You havent made your peace with it yet?
Warmode fucking sucks
>>586245450>pets have avoidancesource?even without avoidance I'm not concerned though I do think there will be a fight or two where you can't use one
>>586245507what happens on rp-pvp? genuinely wondering
>>586245964Eh, it's not impossible if it was during the level lock and he was geared to the tits. I was doing pretty high level content at both caps. Cleared all of BFD at 20 pretty easily (the only struggle was when the group failed to LoS/interrupt the frostbolt volley of the elementals you summon post Kelris).
>>586245973because nobody will play warmodehope this helps
>>586246078It was just a pvp server.No rp.
>>586245736whats your plan for forever?
There's an Ogre in my ass
>>586245840Resto mains will be fineHybrid restos got fucked
>>586246096>pvpers will play pvp>but they won't play pvp (warmode) if given no other option for pvpokay?
>>586245394care to explain way warlock is dead ?
The HD gnome females are really hot
>>586246078When you find a Tauren out in the wild the winner gets to rape the loser!>>586246142Me and my friend are rolling Alliance PvP, but if my friend is flaky I might go RP or RP-PvP for a more casual time.
>>586245840Literally unplayable now
RiP Texas Knights Turtle Legend!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhrV7Kw4MPA
>>586239781Priest rogue is giga busted.. but stick to your guns. Rogue/lock will also destroy in the open world.. wish I had a rogue friend to roll with. You basically will be left alone permanently once they find out theres a rogue with you (barring the roaming mob of donkies that will likely be in contested zones)
>>586245736for some reason I have irrational hatred towards backpedallersI also encountered few times ppl who had /pray on a macro (or dont know how they used it) and would just unironically use it as you are about to kill them
Gonna finally replace my keyboard and mouse after years before wow and im willing to spend BIGany recommendations bros? 12 button mouses are a complete meme, right?
>>586245530Turtle had pets jumping ledges and shit but the technology was probably lost
>>586245605tbc classic was completely differenteveryone fucked off to dungeons, there was noone in the open world
>>586246217yep
>>586239781Rogue + Druid is the best duo in the game.Dual stealth, druids heal n tank, rogues dps and crowd control. You can even do boss farming in dungeons as a duo like that. You giga rape in the open world. You have all the controlI have been the druid in a rogue + druid duo. It's the best.
>>586245736>Keyboard turnersWhat's the issue? It's comfy>Tanks who saw I had 100% mana, never dropped below 80% health, never lost aggro, and still would pull 1 mob at a timeMaybe they were new to tanking?
>>586246170that's right, everyone will just play bgswarmode is doayour proposal is to basically force half the player base to stop playing how they want because you feel butthurt about itfortunately, it will never happen
>>586246309>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LSBTTQX>https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-G403-Hero-Gaming-Mouse/dp/B07L4LRCXNmaximize basic but comfy
>pvp will suck because it's not actual vanilla/pserver kino and every single streamer besides one will be on it>pve will have asmongold>rp playerbase cut in half due to rp-pvp, leaving only the most absolute shitters and porn addicts on the server>rp-pvp gets flooded with pvp rejects who can't handle the smoke of actually good players and pvp sweats who want to main both factionsFuck bro. I guess PvE Horde is the only option? Still have those olympus tards on the server, but at least I won't have to deal with their chat.
>>586245840Gutted. Long cast time on WG, Bloom has anti-synergy with the class, Swiftmend consumes HoT now, and the wonderful GCD talent was nuked. They had the spec perfected and fucked it all up. Now I’m having to consider another healer main 4 days before release
>>586246156enjoy girl :3
>>586246086human females flexing is PEAK
>>586246456just play non-alliance pve. report olympusfags on sight. there is no chance they didn't say some ban worthy chud shit by the time they hit level 60
Druid bros, tell me how this affects Feral Tank.
Does the built in addon system have some sort of taskbar changer? I want to move around and resize shit.
>>586245530Playing a hunter can be funny at times with the general (and justified) paranoia people have when you have proper pet management. You can dismiss your pet when getting ready for a drop ahead of time, and people just start getting worried and start wondering where it's at until they're told it was already dismissed just because they don't see it.
>>586246429>have 30+ spells keybound>he wants to bind two keys to move more slowly
>>586246509ufff nice pits
>>586239171it's not happening anon, give it up
What were the big Rogue changes in the patch bros?
>>586246460>and the wonderful GCD talent was nukedThis is what pisses me off the most by a mile. Holy shit what a great fucking idea and now its gone before I can even use it. Seriously wtf were they thinking?
>>586246604I don't bind two keys for movement it's the opposite. I do NOT rebind movement keys for something else. Keyboard turning looks cool and smooth no way I miss that
>>586246460>>586246628>top parsing healer will still be top parseryou guys are baffoons
>>586246550>there is no chance they didn't say some ban worthy chud shit by the time they hit level 60this is the sole reason i'm joining olympus, to report their guild chatter.
Anyone that unironically watches Asmongold should probably consider ending it
I wonder whats the % of ppl who dont use autorun
>>586246702I'm pissed from the perspective of a hybrid druid.The gcd talent would have been so nice in a hybrid build. I don't care about the heal parses.
Since names are region locked, will guild names be first come first serve as well and region locked? If so, how long until someone steals onlyfangs or olympus or whatever?
>>586245736>HD models
>>586246726He's one of the best streamers out there. Just be glad we finally have someone who tells it like it is.
fuck it, i'll roll shaman instead of rogue
>warlock overDid i miss something? Didn't they just win most top spots in the duel tourney? Did they make any changes?
>>586246571Primal bite made tank leveling viable, now you want to go cat.If berserk can't be learned from trainer it is a giant nerf.
>>586246460Wild Growth having cast time and Swiftmend consuming the hot is how things are supposed to be.
>>586245968Based and flagpilled.
>>586246793he should clean his houes and take a shower
>>586246780>olympusConsidering how many people want to get into Olympus chances are low that he won't be able to get the name. There are just way more players wanting to suck Asmon's massive cock than there realistically will be trying to take it from him.
Berserker removal is a good thing. Moving Furor to feral is a mistake tho.
>>586245407I was watching several (female) streamers because they were constantly having giveaways. They were absolutely horrible. Every time I thought that it was because they were new. Then I checked their VODS and I see that they have been playing for 4-8 years. Unbelievable.
Why are people acting like a meme level 30 dueling tournament matters?
>>586246882He should stop doing those things actually. His prime was when he wasn't.
>>586246684>Keyboard turning looks cool and smooth no way I miss thatt. autist
someones should guild name snipe olympus
>>586246550>>586246706BASED
>>586246995way ahead of you
>>586246930girls being not very good at the game is np tho
Druid nerfs have me thinking hpal, but how the fuck do you even talent that? Looks like shit at multiple ranks...
>>586246980Don't you ever feel like moving solely with keyboard just because it looks cool? I also hold lmb and move the camera to have a cinematic view while I do it.I don't think that's autistic? It's just aesthetically pleasing no?
>>586246787baseded
>>586246930>I was watching several (female) streamers because they were constantly having giveaways>because they were constantly having giveawayssure bro
>>586246571The concern here is Bear lost its bigdick 3 minute threat spike CD for when you want to tell the DPS to not have to throttle their damage. Otherwise things in the tree mainly just got shuffled a bit. I don't think you're going to have much of a problem leveling or doing dungeons since Lacerate is still in the middle of the tree.I don't know much about Pally and Warrior though, did they have big DPS they could use when tanking?
>>586247079no in fact keyboard turning is slightly nauseating
>>586246819No. It's just noobs coping. Warlock is THE premier esports class.
>>586247089They were giving away their breast milk, and we need that shit in the breakroom since the scandal.
>>586246078You can get e-sucked off in Goldshire Inn then Dexter the bitch.
>>586246571>now the best tank instead of the best tank with a ridiculous retail spellthey are actually a good deal stronger than before outside of berserk
Can anyone explain how wow accounts work in 2026 to a returning player?Do I need to purchase north American cdkeys and time cards to play wow forever on north American shards and see Americans in over world?
>>586247079I do have keyboard turn bound to ctrl+alt+A/D just so I can do this, and trick people into thinking I'm a keyboard turner. You can do figure-8s and and other retarded stuff.
THESE 32 POINTS ARE REQUIRED FOR FROST MAGE PVP AND YOU NEED 17 POINTS IN ARCANE FOR IMPROVED COUNTERSPELLYOU HAVE 1 FLEX POINT GONNA BE IN PRECISION BECAUSE THERES NOT HIT CHANCE ON PVP GEARCANNOT GET PERMAFROSTCANNOT GET ARCTIC REACHCANNOT GET IMP FROST NOVAcannot get frost channeling obviouslyTHERE IS NO CHOICE BETWEEN ANY QOL TALENTSREMOVE IMP CONE OF COLD BAKE IT IN NATURALREMOVE 20% ICE BARRIER BUFF FROM FROST WARDING BAKE IT IN NATURALMAKE WINTERS CHILL 3 POINTS
shamanfriends,can i heal 5mans while leveling as enhance if i put 8 points into resto?
>>586247273you need NA game time to play NA you don't need to buy anything but game timeyou should either buy a sub or pay monthly through the bnet client
>>586246571Berserk being gone nerfed the fuck out of feral tank, berserk got of the cd on primal bite and made it cleave to three targets.We no longer have any sort of combat cool down which is fucking retarded.We went from being the second best tank to just the worst tank in the game now.
>>586247306>i want to be unkillable hero class like i was in classicNo. If you want that play warlock
>>586242693skelf are built for the horde
>>586247361probably
>>586247361with half decent gear you can heal at least to 30 with no points in resto as i did during the betanot sure about 30-60
Was planning on making a druid just for gathering professions. Do any of the new changes make Druid so shit that I can't even use it for that?
>>586247379dont worry anon, warrior still hardmogs every other tank so you role is to be the offtank sissy
Gnome shaman when?
>>586247361you can heal dungeons as dps but the higher level you are the harder it isusually around 50 you want to stop
>>586247426>>586247434thank you
>>586247306or you just go without improved counterspell and put those 17 points into something better
>>586247485i want gnome druid so i can be a small chicken
>>586247361You can heal just fine with every class with no talents in healing until 45+, 45+ is when the game expects tanks and healers to actually be specced as tanks and healers.
>>586247367Does bnet still leak your cc and PayPal data like they used to?
>>586247306Frost warding and winter's chill are NOT required.Even improved coc is NOT required. Ice lance reduces coc's value since they often serve the same purpose of being your instant burst to combine with frost bolt or generally use on a frozen target. Imp coc is still good but its value has DROPPED.Arctic reach IS required.
>>586247502>>586247557thats about what i was thinking. im rolling one to play with a warrior friend, im willing to bet he wont hit cap anyway
>>586247361for surejust try to collect as much +int gear as you can while leveling and throw it on for the dungeons
anyone else gonna take it slowas inexplore, level, help others and give 0 fucks about rushing to 60 or raiding?
>>586246571>>586247094Berserk was likely removed because it was an outlier for Tanks. Even if it's a much bigger nerf for Feral since they lost fear immunity in pvp. They compensated the removal of Berserk with more sustained damage and (very)slightly less talent investment for both Bear and Cat. Primal Bite deals more damage and only cost 1 point, and Feral is getting stronger Ferocious Bites on a better energy economy.
>>586247306>he hasnt realized yet he can just play full frost
>>586247648Yep. Probably going to level alts first so I'm not caught in the pack
>>586247624prot warrior is so good at low end content that it might be easier than I might expect
>>586247621>Even improved coc is NOT required.Only something some with a smol coc would say. Size does matter.
I just wanna get warm and snuggly up inside her butt
what level will "the pack" be by monday?
>>586247725kek it do be like this
Reminder that for only a 12 month subscription you get this amazing limited time bonus!If you don't you will never be able to complete your Forever™ pet/tabard collection or wear this amazing backpack
>>586247648Yeah that's what I'm going to do. Just thinking about if I want to change it up and play something I usually don't or keep it simple.
>>586247725Was AI really required to make this?
>>586247781Is this a limited offer?
>>586247781They'll be in the shop individually, same as the other mounts/pets.
>>586247804YES
>>586247781cute moth
>>586247648I probably wont even make it to 60 since every update has made the game worse and worse. If the game was announced as it currently was I wouldn't have cared.
>>586247747Mages are small coc LOCKED ice lance sissies now.
>>586247726>>586247789>>586247901based relaxed bros
>>586247781I just don't get why they make such ugly tabards and transmog sets. In the forever epic pack you have this dwarf one which looks cool but I don't like the other set and tabard.Make cool looking skins and I'll buy them blizz but not like this
>>586247804>Was AI really required to make this?Yes, you can tell this person isn't even able to think and comes up with weird disgusting theories, being a PvE sissy with absolutely no talent, needing AI to even visualize xher dumb ideas.
>>58624762120% ice barrier is required100%+ coc dmg debuff is required35% coc dmg is even more required because of the debuffartic reach is qol not requiredyour babble is retarded youre obviously clueless mind of a retard.jpgyou're definitively wrong
>>586247725This is the ideal pvp encounter.
>>586247941Uh oh pvp melty
>>586247975It depends. Are we talking about homoduels? Then yes, you need a big fat coc and a barrier for your protection. Otherwise, no.
What is the Orgrimmar of real life?
>>586248125your pregnant (by me) mother
>>586248125Probably some shithole in AfricaOr Australia
>>586248125any indian city
Did you get free respec in SoD when they did talent changes? Considering Faggrend is going to make tons of major changes on a whim I think we deserve them.
I fucking hate Alliance...
>>586247526>>586247705imp cs is SUPER required and the points leading up to imp cs is good, spell pen, resist, mana on resist, missiles barrage is kind of required even though im not a fan, clear casting, u actually get to choose if u want range on arcane spells unlike frost
how do hordies feel about their new cities?
>>586248208This should be bannable
>>586247725t. never played on pvp realmsWhy are pve sissies this weak?
>>586245736My wife on her "gap year" in New Zealand getting her pussy gaped by randoms.
>>586247781If they just made this backpack a 20 slot everyone and their granny would've bought it
>>586248208this cringe shit would never happen on Horde
>>586248282>This should be bannablelmao, why?
>>586248282it is but one person reporting someone for something bannable is worth nothing while 20 people reporting you for something that's not bannable is worth a ban
>>586248235apparently the ogre city in the northeast is a horde city or will become a horde city through quests? not sure if that's real or not there is no way that little outpost is enough for every horde quest considering how massive the zone is
>>586248208bro your petri flask?
>>586248338True he should have cried about it on reddit to get them mass reported
they should add verity
>>586248208warrior sissies get what they deserve
moonkin rotation seems very autistically formulaickeep up two dots, cast wrath once, cast starfire twicerepeatis it really that simple? I don't really like hippies but this ocd owl style speaks to me
>>586247306You're like the most retarded frost mage I've seen so far holy shit. How do you go 8 points into improved CoC and fail to pick up one of the most important talents in the tree (arctic reach) and also fail to pick up permafrost? What's up with these people who have never played the game trying to figure out talents?
>>586246429Basically its just that it's infinitely slower. Good news though, it took until MoP to introduce content that required faster than keyboard turning fir pve, it was purely a pvp thing to mouse turn before that.
>>586248453lmfao, kek even. my fucking sides
What smells worse Orgrimmar, Undercity or Ironforge?
New player hereShould I play undead or night elf rogue? My friend wants to play alliance due to the Olympus guild but I don't really care about this and would also play horde alone. But idk yet.
>>586248208based
>>586248592Probably tyrandes feet, eew, imagine sniffing them haha...
>>586248592SW
>>586248596Either is fine but call your friend a faggot for wanting to be in an eceleb guild
>>586248592Undercity is literally a sewer full of rotting corpses
>>586248596Rape your friend into submission.
>>586248496i really cant tell if you're actually retarded or just really good at pretending to be retarded
>>586248596If you're playing rogue you should play pvp, rogue on pve is retarded.
>>586248596>My friend wants to play alliance due to the Olympus guildblock that guy forever
>>586248592Stormwind, it's where Asmongold lives.
>>586248596Based friends. I'd go alliance to play with him. You can still play solo but also play with them unless you find them annoying
The ppl I played with in 19 and sod all want to go pvp but I really don't want to, should I just go pve, probably won't have trouble finding a new guild since I'll play priest
>>586248807>ai generated absolute SLOP
>>586248807yes>>586248864obviously not ai
>rejuvGutted>wild growthMurdered>swiftmendRapedWhy did they do it?
>>586248208disgusting zoomers and turdies.giving internet access to <18yo was a mistake.
>>586248917>obviously not ai>obviouslysure thing buddy
>>586248807it rly depends how much you like those ppland on (you)
>>586248917>obviously not ainta but are you a fucking jeet? that's blatantly ai slop. how can you be so fucking stupid that you can't immediately tell that's ai?
What the fuck did I wake up to Why
>>586248925because it was stronger than everything elsenext question
>>586248928>>586248961https://files.catbox.moe/zv4ivr.pngAI was used to make it sfw but the original is not AI
>>586248963keep crying furfags
>entire new massive zone right next to STV so that it's easy to bounce between the two for 10+ levels>but also a bunch of new Desolace centaur stuff and a new subzone>they're all in the same level rangefuck I wish they spaced this out more
>>586248698Go play a classic mage without arctic reach you genius. Fucking 30 yard frostbolt lmao.
>>586248954I kinda want to play priest and it doesn't sounds fun on a pvp server
>>586248987>AI was used to make it sfw but the original is not AIthat makes 0 sense
>>586248925They realized druid looked playable and they couldn't have that.
Do you guys want to eat these too or just me?
You guys should be nicer to eachother, afterall, you are going to be playing together… FOREVER!!!
>>586249076>yo grok cover this girl up so I can post her on /wowfg/
why are people crying over nerfs and buffs in a live service game?
>>586247443No.They made druids better for leveling since cats get their combo damage finisher at level 24 instead of 32.
>>586249076Retard he just took someone's image they made in blender or whatever and then transformed it so it could be posted here. What's so hard to understand?
Resto Druids, are we going for Holy Paladin or Resto Shaman now. Never liked Priest
>>586249065that seems like a silly reason compared to playing with people you (don't) like or notbut I think priest is pretty good for pvp overall
>>586249273you should go grab a noose whiny cunt
>>586249273>are we going for Holy PaladinLOL
rogue brostoday is our day
>>586248807Why do i wanna fuck gnomes so badly bros?
What the fuck?! Why did Blizzard make fun of Thor for a situation he couldn't do anything about? He was the FIRST second generation Blizzard employee and he worked there for 7 years as one of their BEST employees. Don't they remember that his dad was the cinematic director and the South Park guy?! Eat my entire asshole, Blizzard. Fuck you.
>>586249252>>586249193so ai generated
>>586248659they probably smell so bad haha lol!
>>586249361they don't do anything on weekendsbetter luck next week
>rogue left out of buffs entirely>druid raped and gapedIs hunter at least somewhat unmolested?
>>586249370What was he even supposed to do? He had no mana
>>58624764890%+ of people. Normal functioning humans in society play 2-3 hours a night.
>>586249023okay so you drop 20% barrier for range and drop 2 in winters chill for permafrost i guess sure
Imagine if sylvanas mind controlled you and forced you to deeply inhale her sweaty foot odour (still in stockings) after a long battle, lol do you wowfags really think about this stuff?
>>586248963Explain.
Bros I really wanna go troll shaman but I know it's inferior to orc on PvP servers... Why is hardiness allowed to exist.
>>586247648Yeah I'm only gonna play 10-12 hours per day. I've got responsibilities.
>>586249434hunter is gonna be nerfed by 50%, they do it right before launch so people dont have time to riot
>>586249273I'm just going human female whitemane wannabe holy dps priest larp.I'm done trying I'll just fuck it all
>>586247648Yeah that sounds like me
>>586249434Druid is fine, rogue is fucked, shaman is KEKED
>>586249273I'm going shaman but I full expect them to murder riptide too.
>>586249482i love the smell of rotting flesh stewing in a damp mix of mud and grime
>>586249482No, mind control doesn't work on me.
>>586249454Mana Gem of the Archmage
>>586249631imagine the smell in undercityHow do taurens/orcs/trolls/skelves not just die the moment they enter?
>>586249631If they are dirty, my tongue will be her sponge.
>>586249626I'm sorry in advance, every class I plan on playing is being fucked up right now, and Shaman was my second pick/first alt
>nerfs feral>nerfs resto>still have to spend 13 points just to make starfire usableWhy do they hate druid?
>>586248987She definitely fucks orcs
>>586249621>rogue is fuckedRogue has its giant rework we still haven't seen, it can't be worse then druid and shaman.
>>586249826>Why do they hate druid?Meanwhile, druid is consistently one of the best retoilet classes
sure
>>586249826Because you still have no clue what you're talking about when you don't even have any talents outside of balance to use to justify not needing point sinkage in balance and the feral "nerfs" were strictly a burst damage change offset entirely by a rather large gain in sustained damage.
>>586249943You need 11 points in feral for charge and 5 in furor for rage to pvp.
>>586249434There's going to be more changes before Wednesday.
>Paladins are saved>Fat streamers on suicide watchWe're gonna make it bros.
>>586250059Don't forget there will be at least 2-3 before people reach 60 and then several more at level 60 itself.
>>586241046>serious guildI know you are trolling. But classic is such a joke. I remember doing the spider boss in ZG, I genuinely thought it was just a tough pre-boss mob. The guild started popping off saying shit like "nice job clean kill guys"I had no idea. The mechanics in this game are pathetic and designed for boomer gamers. If a "serious" guild is looking for perfect classes for speed kills they are most likely funneling loot to the top so they can stop playing in a month
>>586250124Yeah, definitely. I'd say it's going to be quite dynamic until the raid release day.
>>586249943yeah removing tanks cleave and ferals fear immunity 3d are just "burst damage changes" you stupid nigger
Is thunderbluff just a clone of Cosmo canyon from ff7?im not complaining, the vibe is kino.
>>586250059I really wanna see how silly the first major balance patch is compared to the current changes after the game goes live. All the info they probably have and are using right now just cannot compete with the game actually opening up properly to the playerbase.
>>586250185For me, raiding being easy is fine. It's definitely easy though I agree. I like pvping and doing solo content or other niche stuff. Classic offers a lot of scope for that.
>>586249478The problem with WC is that you're not getting the stacks. Frost blast is gone with a 90% probability. If r1 bolt doesn't proc wc like it doesn't proc anything else, you're stuck trying to get stacks with a max rank frostbolt and a spell with an 8 second cd. Hardcasting max rank frostbolts is something you do out of sheep or when you're already winning. As a result, WC is essentially a win more talent that works in scenarios where you've already won. On the other hand, ice lance is back to doing 4x on frozen targets, and will be critting for almost 2k with barrier up. Who needs coc when you just lance for 2k?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOO DONT CHANGE THE HECKIN GAME I HAD MY WHOLE LIFE PLANNED AROUND HOW TO MINMAX THIS GAME FROM PLAYING THE BETA NOW I WONT HAVE THAT SAME ADVANTAGE GOING INTO THE GAME DONT WORRY THOUGH SINCE I WOULD NEVER EVER CONSIDER UNSUBSCRIBING FROM YOUR GAME BECAUSE IM A GOYSLAVE THAT ONLY RECEIVES MY PERCEIVED WORTH FROM BEING SLIGHTLY 'BETTER' AT YOUR GAME THAN THE AVERAGE PLAYER
soon bros...
>>586250378thismy frozen and locked ice clitty is so much more satisfying than worrying about having a coc
>>586249937holy shit thats retarded
>>586250378good point true
>>586250491Im storing up my fun for next week, going to have so much of it!
>>586250471yes and?
>>586250491going home
Where do horde get torches from?
>>586250621drink bleach you fucking nigger
Who's keked worse, Shaman or Rogue? Shaman have had changes over the beta, all of them negative, but Rogues have been completely untouched.
>>586250642ask the horde players, they should be on one of the 'cords on OP
>>586250642from the burning torch cultists
>>586250491Worth delaying suicide over
>>586250642torches are the most reddit shit everwetlands is so fucking dark at night btw that it is player vs nameplate even if you have a torchoh my god so heckin cinematic *takes epic screenshot and posts it on reddit*thank you blizzard
>>586250491breath in that fog
>>586250621What about it being a beta is so hard to understand for these people
>>586250590>>586250634>>586250730we will have so much fun
>>586249124yeah
IN THIS HOUSE, WE PLAY ALLIANCE ON THE PVP RULESET!
>>586250103>>Paladins are savedare they tho
>>586250659>no you have to enjoy the thing you know, love and paid for being changed on a whim by a tranny who doesn't even play the gameyou should unironically go back to retail.
>>586250730
>>586250861im not a agp sissy like you daddy, ill just play fun races like orcs and trolls
>>586250875you paid, loved, and knew a beta version of a game that was subject to change
>>586250730Life is a series of that
>>586250868Twist of Light goneProt got a cool new ability and the ability to generate threat when they aren't being melee attackedHoly is an actual healer tree instead of le epig shockadin for 90% of its talentsYeah I'd say it's looking good.
>>586250957>Twist of Light goneinstead you just stack 3 twists then hope for a crit
>>586250471Please god let these changes filter all the retards that gravitated towards druid over the last few weeks and have them fucking off to a different class. Removing berserk and people ignoring the other changes so it's being perceived as a massive nerf to so many retards has been the best thing that could have ever possibly happened to druid.
>>586250730I can't imagine seeing all the crazy stuff people make with AI and still wanting to kys. Aren't you curious how insane things will have changed in ten years?
>>586249273staying resto, taking bloom and will keep up 10 rejuvs on the raid at all times
Do the queues from NA and EU sync?I wanna sleep early and get up 5 am bong time but i just realised it'll still be like 11 pm for americans.
>>586250957
>>586250973It's fine, it's not autismal swing timer watching and 21/30 Holy Shock builds got better for Ret.
Are you guys playing video games?
>>586250694Both are about to get raped with changes no one asked for on Nov 3rd
>>586251049this looks like a youtube add desu
Now that Feral Tank is dead (Thank you, Blizzard), what tank do I play now? Paladin?
I have never played WoW in my life and wanted to start with WoW Forever. Is healing funnin this gane? Was thinking of making a Priest/Shaman.
>>586251115I agree but it's actually pretty cool.
>>586250694Shaman is fine even if it would be really nice to have maelstrom changed to another attack or something. It's always been the clunky weird class. Rogue is in a pathetic state.
>>586251020Have they ever?
>>586251140both good choices
>>586251136this game isnt for you
someone explain the druid changes?
>>586251140just play whatever you think you may likeexcept warlockwarlock is pain
>>586251103I'd be genuinely impressed if they made Ele/Enh worse somehow. I don't think they could unless they actively tried.>>586251145They need to add something to Maelstrom Weapon to make you actually want to build it up and press Lightning Bolt instead of it just being 5 talent points to fill a dead gcd every 25 seconds.The easy route is just make it stack up lightning bolt damage with every stack so it hits hard, but they could make it more interesting and exciting or just fucking remove it for something else.
>>586251136warrior MT , feral OTno other viable tank combinations
>get random three year old asmon video recommended with some guy griefing a whole raid after he prepared for a year gaining their trust>follow up video interview with the perpetrator>randomly click through it>25:50>"It's just judgement day, like Alexsensual was right and all these guys were cheaters"LMAOOOOOOO I still don't know who he is but that took me by surprisehttps://youtu.be/xsiIOqMPhQI?t=1550
>>586251286They could say they "buffed" enh by making it dual wield.
>>586251330thinly veiled fanboy post
I like keyboard turning.
Which Horde race is best for Protection Warrior?
>>586251408Me too brother
>>586251424Tauren
>>586251386Ok I changed my mind you win if they "buff" enh by making it dual wield I will bomb Blizzard HQ in minecraft
>>586251330NO ONE CARES THAT YOU PRETEND THAT YOU'RE NOT ALEXSENSUAL. KILL YOURSELF.
>>586239171only as literal slave NPCs in Zul'gurub
>>586251424tauren, 5% hp is broken
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERALALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GAMEALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS WORLD
>>586251424Troll looks great with all that regen. It's broken.
>>586251252retards raped and triggered by literally nothing
>Skinning/LW while leveling>Swap to Mining/Engineering at end gameIs there any other choice for hunters? I always went mining on other characters.. it's gonna hurt to ignore mining nodes I find bros..
>>586251424Troll
>>586251424Undead, look at cannibalize, with how fast youre killing it's broken.
>>586239715Took care of that yesterday and will make Priest instead of Druid.
I'm so pissed off that Blizzard nerfed Feral Tank. It's not fair.
>>586251613yassss fax king, pop off
>>586251613
>>586251671>she thinks shes running gathering profession at 60Youll use LW+engi and you like it
>>586251798Who plays with this sovlless ui
>>586251424Tauren is nice for warstomp but that will be useless against raid mobsI feel like troll will be the meta pick because zerking is probably the best racial for threat and rage generation
>>586251424Undead basically gets Tauren Racial as a heal every 15s. If you know anything about tanking it's that DR > Self Sustain > EHP
>>586251843him >>586251792
>>586251408You think you do but you don't
>>586251841You don't understand, I have and will farm nodes for hours at 60 if I need to. though to be honest I could just do that on another character I'm leveling
>>586251884Damn more like alexsovlless
warlock leveling talents? aff into demo at 40 or 45? full demo?
People keep saying that engineering for hunter is great since you can make your own ammo... but... do they realise that the ammo is like 15 times more expensive than the vendor ammo?
>>586251798holy fuck that was him?
>>586251252>beserk removed, talents shuffled>some skills do more damage to compensate for more sustain damage instead, literally whatever for pve>this is an objective pvp nerf though since berserk made you fear immune and gave you a potential burst window for killing healers>resto druids throwing a fit over heavier nerfs regarding a cast time on wild growth, and gcd reduction being removed in exchange for a diet life bloom>some people arguing its not a nerf because of a previous cast speed talent, despite the fact anyone complaining has already factored that in and wild growth is a 2.5 seconds cast time after that>pro druid and anti druid retards fighting constantly now and will continue to do so until the next class change cycle happens
>>586251928retard
>>586250990This, but give the gcd talent back. That woulda been fun
>>586251905mining doesnt give any dps, every other real profession gives you extra dps
>>586251938You get what you pay for anon. If you dont care/are too lazy then you get worse ammo.
>>586251938with new BOP BIS ammo and the ulitlity shit like stun ammo and aoe explosion arrows you can craft, it's basically the only choice.
>>586251938yeah lil gup, they do realize the bop ammo you can craft is better then the grey ammo from the vendor.
Well, I guess I'm going fucking Alliance. Could I get anymore fucked by Blizzard today?Best Alliance Race for Prot Warrior? I'm thinking Night Elf.
>>586251943Wild growth was kinda broken anyway but idk why they removed the gcd talent. It was comfy.
Test
>>586252108icles
>>586239048playan turtle wow
>>586252092Night elf for sure, that or skelf but nelf seems better
>>586252092just keep trying every few hours, it opens. And on launch it will definitely open every few mins because of new people making ally chars
>>586251678>Concussion Blow>Rapid Regeneration
>>586239048Reading manwha and watching YouTube. I'm not playing anything until release.
kino addons for immersion? like spoken, dialogue IU, etc?
>>586252092keep trying, it worked for me after like 5 minutes of trying
>>586252092Human if you want to PvP, Skelf if you want to PvE. Nelf is okay, but will eventually hit crit cap and the racial will be useless.
is engineering gonna be worth it to pick up right from the start for hunter?
>>586239048I do my ZZZ dailys and draw fat tits for commissions.
>>586252262Crit cap? You think you're going to hit 90% crit?
>removes shockadin>remove all the fun little things/items/interactions that are ""unintended"">no shaman tank>no lock tank>no rogue tank>no mage healer>butchers shamans>trashes the leveling curvebased blizzchads taking a final big fat shit on the classics andies forehead one last time before move all the company resources to retail
>>586252262>Crit cap Lmao no
>>586252149>turtle wowHow?
>>586252158>>586252261It worked. Thanks for the advice. I am now maining this absolute beast. See you boys in RP-PVP.
>>586252298yes
>>586252339Same without the drawing. Did the boo event earlier and holy shit that was pathetic
>>586252432You should have gave him the hentai protag hair
>>586252383based schizo mourning the loss of something that never was in any way real except in his head
>>586252432Even RPPVP is horde locked? what the fuck
>>586252359>>586252387You crit cap white hits with only like 30-40% crit. White hits are a majority of Rogue/Warrior damage. Sure you will slightly increase your yellow hit crit chance for 15 seconds every few minutes, but the haste from Skelf is far better.
>>586252432Thanks for the name, now i know who to focus target my /hugs on.
>>586252552its no different from regular rp
>>586252409
>>586251424undead or troll and your choice really depends on whether you like consistency or RNG intimidating shout + bandage + troll racial is a full reset basically. And gearingfor sprit, even a little bit, will be strong. Fishing buff can give you 8% baby king to boost str, agi, and spirit
>>586252298they buffed the engie guns a bit but otherwise it's basically the same as beforeit really doesn't do much until later so other professions are going to be more useful early might be worth it to have another proff you keep at low level earlier, which is what I'm going to do with BS on my warrior
>>586239048watching alexensual
Prediction: after a Monday patch, rogue will be the 2nd-most popular class at launch.
>>586252629this was my thought to be honest, leatherworking seems more fun
>>586251798woah he lost a duel. literally another shoah.
>>586252678rogue is basically unchanged so there won't be many people playing it
>>586252678>will be competing for least played class with mages
>>586252383Retail lostForever won
>>586252781warlocks are the least played
>>586251424Tauren looks the best and has the best main tank racial.Troll is cool for solo play.Orc looks nice too.Undead has good racials, but looks like puny bitch next the other horde warriors, you are the Horde equivalent of gnome warrior.
>paladins have salv>few weeks in beta salv is treated as a non-blessing and just another buff>week after beta salv is removed from the gameSo uh, what?
>>586252821>he is still so wrongmost op class in both pvp and pve will be insanely popular among sweats
>>586252883>make projects how wrong he isnah
>>586252741>duelhe jumped him and got his ass beat. he then cried about how on pvp servers people shouldn't pvp while leveling.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gy09EIDGm0k
>>586252869they're doing a lot of changes to certain classesI'm down with it though why bother with a beta then
>>586252741alex stop defending yourself on 4chan
>>586252928every pvp streamer is going warlock and everyone will copy them
>>586252883>most op class in both pvpsweats know better, sorry zoomy
>>586251286What? Enhance shaman does absolutely amazing if you actually build into the battlemage formWhich means INT gear over STR
>>586252958I just don't see the issue with Salv. It was fine in Classic. Even with your entire melee dps taking salv from the BoW Paladin you would still pull threat unless you had a cracked furyprot tank. If it was too strong as "just another buff" you could stack with blessings, then why not just make it a blessing again?
>>586252883anon no one plays warlock
>>586252996It does fine numbers but its a mess. Maelstrom Weapon is a joke of a talent.
Soon..
>>586252741Go suck his cock pathetic faggot
>>586252996>INT is better than STR because it gives 1 AP rather than 2 AP and waste talent pointsmake it make sense
>>586252298If you don't want to bother releveling it later on so you can take gold making professions for leveling.Hunter always farmed easy though so whatever, really depends how lazy you are
>>586251928aff till 27 then respec demo for demonic brand
>>586252543I'm a retail chadI'm on blizzard's sideI won
>>586252930kino
>>586253101Int gives AP, Mana and Spell Power. I get the feeling Enh might end up doing the old ret paladin dress meme.
>>586252987warlocks not being popular is same psyop as "waah waah horde racials bad save us daddy blizz!", funny how dumbfuck forever devs fall for it though
>>586253063prot paladin got a huge RF buff so they're just putting it onto tanks maybe? prot warrior got a huge revenge buff (as an aside , prot was already going to be the best way to level a warrior and now it's much much stronger to the point where warrior might be a top leveling class wtf)feral druid also got massive changes so idk there
Why did they make retail so much easier than forever? Retail is literally a baby game at this point.
>>586253068I wish.Everyone will be a warlock.
>>586253186warlock is one of the least popular base classes in retail
>>586253071Retail raids are harder
>>586253186too many christcucksthey wont play it
>>586253129hows the thread going over there? very active and not filled with furfags I hope?
>>586253280I dunno what has to do with my post but ok
>>586253182run a sim lmao
>>586252930I've only ever seen this from Alex's perspective lmao. I can't believe the hunter just so happened to also be recording.
>>586253250Retail is harder than classic/forever, but none of the hard content is out in the world, it's running mythic dungeons and the harder raid tiers. The issue is, who the fuck cares about that.
>>586253182Spell crit tooEnhance and Elemental will probably end up using almost exactly the same gear but with a change of playstyleImho Elemental might actually turn ok at 60
>>586253264>retail>>586253312irrelevant as only EU what matters
Kek I can't stop laughing at the retail tranny who's mad because he knows all his friends are going to be playing forever and he's not going to have anyone to troon out with
>>586253280Nah, I can go into MC and literally one shot everything.
>>586252930>>586252969>>586253089it was a duel and also an unwinnable one.he did not train dash.
>>586253406EU are all christcucks, subconsciouslythey simply won't play it, on average
>>586253453Are you retarded?
>>586253479neck yourself alex
>>586253497>no argument>ad hominemI accept your concession.
Retail more like retoilet
do feral and moonkin crit buff stack?
>>586253584Molten Core is a very infamous up to date retail raid right?
classic more like clickbait
>>586253690goalposts in orbit
>>586253690>moving goalpostslil gup, you lost, take the L and move on. your izzat is tanking.
>>586253791you have braindamage if you classify molten fucking core as a retail raid
>>586253426Is that a real thing or just hypothetical
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>>586253480half of EU wow players are german and scandinavian welfare neets and middle aged balkanistanians, no christianity there
>>586253943nta but I've seen posts like that of retail players mad people are moving over to the "side game" because they'll have less people to play with and their cosmetic stuff doesn't carry over to forever so they don't see the point in playing it because retail players literally just play the game for dress up.
>>586253480Christianity is essentially wiped out in Europe.Maybe 1 in 10 Germans and 1 in 50 Swedes are Christian and the ones who are don't play fucking world of war craft.
>>586254215>>586254064delusionalmusloids also won't play a demonic classinb4 cope
>>586253907Is Molten Core not available on Retail or something?
>>586253907Tell me when I can go into MC in Forever and oneshot everything.
>>586242367demo warlocks are absurdly OP once you unlock the milestones. Locks make the game a joke frankly, im avoiding the class until i get bored of the others because of it.
>>586252149>>586252409it's called octowow now
>>586257860>>586252149>>586252409goon for mommy shenna
>>586251424either orc for threat on pull and pvp racials or tauren for the small hp boost
