>News, Dev Blogposts & Podcasthttps://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/>Patch Noteshttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/wow-forever-beta-development-notes-%E2%80%93-updated-october-26/2360696/8>Talent Calculatorhttps://wowforevertalents.com/>DatesName Reservations open now for skyborne pack purchasers.The journey begins on November 4>Upcoming /wowfg/ NA Guilds<Clover Club> RP-PvP Alliance | https://discord.gg/Zb2uWkkpbc<FUN HAVERS> PvE Alliance | https://discord.gg/TNT2QTpdVD<Remigration> PvP Horde | https://discord.gg/K9QEFvzxf>Upcoming /wowfg/ EU Guilds<Wrench> PvE Horde | https://discord.gg/mVPNnmXv5<Niflheim> RP-PvP Alliance | DiscordlessPrevious>>586192579
Moonkings...
Will Undead Paladin still be the single most popular class/race combination?
>horde cries acting like they're weak in pvp and alliance is dominating>every pvp server has horde waiting room channels to get pinged when its opened for 1 minute per day
THESE 32 POINTS ARE REQUIRED FOR FROST MAGE PVP AND YOU NEED 17 POINTS IN ARCANE FOR IMPROVED COUNTERSPELLCANNOT GET PERMAFROSTCANNOT GET ARCTIC REACHCANNOT GET IMP FROST NOVAMAKE WINTERS CHILL 3 POINTSREMOVE 20% ICE BARRIER BUFF FROM FROST WARDINGOR JUST REMOVE WINTERS CHILL LMAO MAKE IT A PVE TALENT LIKE BEFORE LMAO
dwoods.... not like this...
I look like Assumi ;)
>friends I used to play WoW with when we were kids have turned into the hyper casual henpecked redditor gamerdad types >all very excited to play for 1 hour or less on launch
What new sweeping changes will we get tomorrow?
>massively buff Revenge's base numbers>turn it into a mini-Bloodthirst don't tell aggrend how silly this is going to be can't wait for rogues to jump me while leveling
>>586205893Wife, stop posting on 4chan and get back under my desk
They just completely neutered Druid
>>586205836It's possible on launch but the generic human paladins will outnumber them eventually let alone the elves.
Anyone else going to download the Classic UI? I don't like change.
So why is everyone mad right now?
>>586205828If anything Balance is neutral-to-slightly-positive from this update. The crit rate aura is whatever-tier compared to your Innervate, and the shifting of Furor and Heart means Balance doesn't have to waste 5 points in Feral anymore.
4 days 21 hours left sisters!
>>586205982the devs developed the game, this is going to happen every week for the next 2-5 years
>>586205862this is an ai-generated image
Welcome to the World of Blizzpatch all my new friends!
>>586205982Furrys are mad they've been brought back in line
>>586205982prot pal tanks got buffed, bear tanks got nerfed, warr tanks got yet another buff
>>586205939It's gonna be so fucking funny, like wrath-era revenge build
>>586205868the raped
are you fags ready for 20h queues?
>>586206058What do I do for 4 days? I'll fap the last 21 hours so I need something to do until then
>Shaman is one of the most played classes despite having no stun, the worst leveling rotation and the slowest leveling of any class
Give it to me straight, is Prot Paladin a competitive choice now? Is it a viable tank option?
>restedxp>buying gold>starting political arguments in general chat>being racist in guild chat and accusing people of being brown>being toxic to random group members and kicking them from the group at the slightest mistake >manipulating the AH like a kike and screwing over my own community >spending my dkp on pvp gear and contributing very little to raids>if I meet a verifiable foid tell her I can get her raid gear for nudesYep it's time to game
Damn. Windfury totem is just THAT good.
>level 60>undead wars, locks and paladins have 6k hp, close to 7k fully buffed>fight starts>immediately 350 damage done to you, they're healed for 350, without them pressing a key>15s pass>it happens again>there's now a 10% hp differential between you and the undead and it was entirely automatic>35-40% of the horde will play this racealliance are so fucked they dont even know
What do the Forsaken smell like? Rotting flesh? Death?
>>586206286Yes, but pray Shieldsworn doesn't get nerfed.
>>586206286it should be clear to you by now that if something isnt viable (viable doesnt mean optimal) the devs will buff it, you're favourite spec IS going to get nerfed at some point
>>586206029Doesn't Balance want Nature's Focus anyway?
Warriorbros, we keep getting stronger...
>>586206137>resto druid not even mentioned even tho it was vaporized off the client
>>586205971that's not what the original ui looked like though.
>>586206291dunking on chuds is going to be my way to make leveling enjoyablereleasing Forever the day after the mid-terms was genius
>>586205980Now prot gets 30% increased threat on non holy damage.Which I'm sure will be VERY important for AP prot and now prot paladin will stack AP!
>>586206286it’s still more gear dependent then warr but the extra flavor like spell block, bubbles, and aoe make it interesting
>>586206329My Thorns will be hitting for more than that lmao.
>>586205868>Improved Cone of Cold has been removed from the talent treeFixed.
>>586206286If you yourself are not a shitter, then yes, Prot Paladin in your hands will be more than fine tanking all the way to 60, at 60, and probably even in raiding environments, where you'll have plenty of support.If all else fails, form connections while you level and use the greatest power of nepotism to hold a spot anyway.
>>586206329it sucks that they changed it to an ICD because now it does fuckall for AoE >>586206409yeah I don't expect that change to make it to live, if anything I've been dreading a Revenge nerf and somehow they massively buff it
>>586206490you'll have 2000 spellpower at 60?
>>586206494sure i'll take that
>>586206286Yes, it's Aggrend's main so if it isn't it will get immediately buffed. It's also going to get its own SP tanking gear.
>>586206291Are you a bot?
>holy pallies now swear oaths of chastity to their tanksguh.....
>>586206329>up to 5% of your maximum healthThis tooltip could be a bit more clear about what it actually does. I assume the damage and healing are equal but is it always 5% of your health? Is there some other cap to the damage or could you get 100k health and deal 5k damage?
if youre a boomie is there any reason to go into bear other than frenzy regen and bash? i figured id just change my normal bear keybind into moonkin if im balance
Guys, rate my team.
>>586206679it's always 5% it just has old text I guess
>>586205982You can play balance druid
>>586206679Yes, it's always 5%, unless you're fighting an NPC (or player) with lots of shadow res, or it procs and your target has less than 5% of your max hp remaining
>>586206730me as the shadow
>>586206461i’m warning you now that holy will be the overwhelming majority of your damage. all your damage buttons outside of holy strike do holy damage.
>>586206329Good thing they have their own racials
What do ret paladins bring to raids again
>>586206730why do you have a single rogue let alone three?
>>586206730leader and moonkin provide the same buff now
>>586206730You don't have any hunters for Trushot Aura?
>>586206730Replace a rogue with a hunter
>>586206895TSA is ranged AP only now
>>586206407With Wrath faster and the Eclipse talent making Starfire faster, SPECIFICALLY in a PvE consideration, I don't put as much value in spending 5 talent points for spell pushback protection for Boomkin. That said, its 5-7 points are in a grey area of "Do I need in-combat mana regen (which I imagine is yes in 95% of cases)?" "Do I want Insect Swarm?" "Do I want stronger Roots / extra viable targets for Roots?" "Do I want Genesis for Moonfire (and Insect Swarm)?" etc. So it could fit depending.
>>586206730>3 rogues
>>586206231>1.9 million skyborne I know there will be plenty of people making 2 or more skyborne on their acc, but holy fuck these retards really paid blizzard off with this shit
>>586206895trueshot only gives zero ap now
Removing this was the worst fucking decision they've ever made.
>>586206730>10 melee classeswhy don't you want your melee getting loot
>>586206675Shaman betas swearing to their Alphas...
>>586206902Better yet, get rid of 2 rogue then add in a mage and a lock.
>>586205836If only because Paladins are often one of most played classes to begin with anyway, but with either side getting all classes now, no I don't imagine you'll see a massive influx. Horde'll need Paladins and will get Paladins, but the surge on beta was to see the new quest-line and content.
ALEXENSUAL RUNS THIS GENERAL
>>586206993The main way to get into the beta also gave you access to skyborne as a playable race.
>>586206343rot is the smell of bacteria decomposition. since there is no way to repair their dead bodies in the lore, hence the broken jaws and such, then it is not possible for them to be actively rotting. they would collapse in a matter of days. abominations are repaired as an amalgamation of bodies though so they probably smell like ass. undead probably smell like unseasoned beef jerky. sylvanas in particular probably smells sulfurous as that is the commonly attributed stink of ghosts.
>>586207092We want every buff though
>>586207234*chases after cat*
my 5 friend squad>shaman>priest>hunter>druid>rogue (me)guess I might need to play warrior prot now... I was gonna let druid tank...
>>586206950Feels kinda bad that you have to spend 8 points to make Starfire feel nice to press, so you're left with 2 points to throw wherever
>>586207234*reviews black dildo*
Bring everyone else up to Feral Druid's level?Nah, make Feral just as retarded and unfun as everyone else.Looks like it's warrior tank again for the 4th time in a row because god forbid any other class be decent at it in vanilla.
>>586207234how can he run this general if he can't even run ashenvale
>just ate dinner>forlo still isn't outBLIZZARRRRRRRD
Alright, fixed it based on your input.
is /wowfag/ caged and diap’ed up?
>>586207309>healsissy>healsissy>egirl bait>healsissy for gay men>the cucked melee
>>586207309Play a warrior anyway or else you and the Druid will fight for loot. Warrior sucks solo so this is you best chance to get one to 60 with ease.
>>586204893if by playlist you mean shopping lists then yes
>>586207521>hes still broughteding 2 druids for the same 3% crit aura
>>586207521what's the point of a shadow priest
Arcane Mage would be better for the health of the game and more fun to play if they replaced Arcane Blast with Arcane Barrage.
>>58620760424/7/365https://files.catbox.moe/oo56ch.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/o2q6uw.png
>>586207309>No plate userYou're just griefing yourself by not going Pala or Warr
>>586207679so the healing priest doesn't get lonelythere is room for meme specs all around
>>586207521>2 warlocksi guess thats a semi-hardcore raid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLmo2iVyJ1M>Forever started being worked on around Summer/Fall of 2024 during SoD phase 5>item obfuscation was being worked on in 2024>hyjal being worked on in november 2024>zephras isle being worked on in 2025, not a last minute addition>everything to due with weather was being worked on in 2025, devs held back on showing it at blizzcon and the first few weeks of beta and then used the feedback as a strategic PR move to "quickly bring out weather and show they care about the community" as an easy slam dunk but it was always planned
What's it like to be a nut clipped sissy druid living in moscow right nowAre you living the dream, sascha
>>586207638>Warrior sucks solo
>>5862076794 healer is the bare minimum, 5 is comfy. Brining a SP to help with regen will probably make the healing easier to handle so the shaman can save a bit of mana for the totems.
>>586207604just diaped
>>586207679mana battery for the healers I have to assume
>>586207364They cant make pally or Druid as good as warrior by giving a new ability or two. Warrior was designed from the beginning with tanking in mind and it will always be the premier tanking class.
female human magepvpsolo
>>58620767915% spirit for the healers
>>586207521Again you're missing out on trueshot aura.
>>586207810are you implying that CoR is not needed anymore and it doesnt stack with FF?
>>586206343Formaldehyde
>>586206652That's what the jews want you to think fren
>>586207604just caged + plugged when healing dungeons or pvpingfemale human paladin btw
>>586207330I would definitely enjoy it if that 5/5 turned into a 3/3, at the very least.
>>586207995na pvp i hopeI will be flirting with all female healer specs hoping theyre caged healsluts
>>586207638>Warrior sucks soloProt revenge is going to absolutely shred especially now you have Victory Rush at 20
Warrior bros... Are we getting too cocky?
for me, it's the human warrior
>>586207880
furor on feral tree is great for pvp ruleset. i was going to go down only to leader then start resto for furor anyways before the change. actually huge
>>586207330genesis being buffed to 10% is interestingI never played moonkin but I wonder if weaving in moonfire and insect swarm will be better than spamming wrath and starfire
>>586207330You think boomies will need the threat reduction?
Female DwarfPvEProt Paladin
>>586208164It's a live service game. Anyone factoring their decision on what they think the game is going to be right now is retarded. The specs will be balanced, eventually. Play what appeals to you, drone.
Priest main here, please convince me not to make a Resto Shaman. Main points>Chain heal>OP totems with tons of utility>Good damage leveling>Free loot>Instant wolf form>If Alliance, instant invites everywhereCounterpoints>Totem gameplay>3 button healing spec>Melee>Enhancement and Elemental are worthless>Needs to drink a lot while leveling>If Horde, the role is a bit oversaturated
male orc warlockpvpdemonology, just as guldan intended
>>586208310nah, warriors will win
What does he know?
>>586208352Most people won't get shamans to 60, and the ones that do are mainly going to be enhancement.
>>586208352>Good damage levelingwrong>OP totemswrong>Instant wolf formuseless in raids
>>586208367If we're to take blizzard at their word, the goal is for warriors to be best at cleave and rogues to be best at single target. not really sure where that leaves everyone else though.
>>586207816>>Forever started being worked on around Summer/Fall of 2024 during SoD phase 5I highly doubt this. They hired Holly Longdale in 2020 and Forever is her initiative.
>>586206482I think paladin in general is going to scale harder than warrior does, which is pretty crazy to say.
>>586208498He was using data to back up everything. He essentially has the complete timeline of every change that was put forth onto the forever client. Camelot was even the codename in 2024.
>>586208408The best place to get Boston Cream in LA.
>>586208408Aggrend's cockwarmer better convince him to put Arcane Barrage in.
>>586208352soft furry cuck ugly racegay
Sagewarden is not happy. Any thoughts?https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/resto-druid-completely-gutted/2396851
>>586208408>wild growth is still incan we stop posting this screenshot now? clearly was just taking guesses
>>586208632We know for a fact that a lot of Blizzard's game development is done on paper before it gets put to code.
why would i play classic when i can now download a wow client that will play the entire game for me start to finish.
>>586208275You did more damage with moonfire in classic, but it was less mana efficient than just spamming starfire. I assume you're keeping dots up 100% of the time (insect swarm for the hit reduction) and then rotating between starfire and wrath around the eclipse talent if mana allows for it.
>>586208721Didn't it get nerfed though? And everything else was right?
Shadow sissies on the classic wow subreddit are not happy about the shadow word death change. Any thoughts?https://www.reddit.com/r/classicwow/comments/1xjx2vd/that_shadow_word_death_change_is_insane/
>>586208797what
>>586208352Priest is good in PvE and PvP, Resto is not.
>>586208142yes <3
>>586208436for good reason cause priest is better as a healer
Are warlocks happy the feral druids lost berserk since it gave them fear immunity?
That last racial patch was fucked. Horde have all the OP racials again.Things were finally balanced and horde had to whine because after 22 years, Alliance finally had a very slight edge. Fuck horde. Greykilling every one I see
>>586208893why does it matter if you take 30% or 10%? Were they planning to use it in their rotation or something?
>>586209006People just overhype windfury totem. Imagine if the devs give another source of windfury to another class.
>only 5 days left until we can play!!!
>>586208853>nerfedif by nerfed you mean brought in line with prayer of healing, sure, which is a fair and appropriate comp, sure.
>>586208893>Spell that is mainly meant to be used as a finisher shouldn't punish you for spamming itLow IQ individuals
WHAT HAPPENEDDID THEY PATCH SOMETHING AM I SAFE? WARRIOR NELF
>>586208797Com- *burp*... computer...put me in the... put me in the game... make me cool... computer... make me win the- *burp*... make me win the game... computer put big smelly feet in the game...
r8 it n h8 it
>>586209096did racials get changed again?
>>586209000I will be on Horde, we will capture you and take you to Orgrimmar where you will be chained up and made into free use. In this way you will pay for the blood you have spilled.
Why do warlocks and rogues not get any changes all beta and even now?
>>586208579i want prot pal to be harder. playing prot warr again would be too easy and dull.
YOOOOOOOOO NIGGA iss ya BOIIII The Mothafucka DAY Elf up in this bitch up in the Sky stayin' fly gettin' lifted cause I'm gifted and I'm splifted hahAAAAAAAAHH you feel me brah okayYeah but anyway I just wanna say I ain't joining either one of them jive ass Red vs. Blue political separatist hate machine type scrub-a-dub-dubs down there on that jank ass planet down below lookin' all muddy and shit with them cocky ass stone stacked castles and them choppin' down forests and shit I don't JIVE with that type of shit homie you feel me? Ima just just sit up top puff puff pass clappin' ya mommas ass hahAAAAAAAH! But yea okay this been ya boy Boi The Mothefuckin DAY Elf signin' off bout to go bang some blue bitches brah OUT
thank fucking god im not playing mage what the fuck is blizzard doing?
>>586209309I'm already one step ahead of you, I make frequent trips to org (in the skimpiest plate armor I can find)
>>586209316Fatrend forgot they're in the game.
>>586209272Yes, orc and undead racials got buffed for no reason
>>586209316Warlocks and rogues have their class changes tied to gear, endgame quests and tomes.
>>586209316Warlock and Rogue are already perfect designs so don’t need changes
Reminder that it was feedback from top 1% progression raiders, not casual players or normal raiders, that lead to the worst of the class homogenization and watering down of RPG elements of modern WoW.A large number of these guilds have their sights on Forever, and as soon as the raid patch comes out they're going to start crying about class imbalance, racials, and drop RNG "compromising the competitive aspect of raiding". They're going to try to min-max every cool thing in the game and whine to Blizzard for "fixes" so they aren't "forced to do it". Most of all they're going to try to get deterministic gearing systems added so that all the legendaries and low-drop chance epics become participation prizes. (Prog raiders hate all RNG.)It's not the stereotypical retail Andy who likes collecting mounts and transmogs that's going to try to turn Forever into retail. It's these guys. And Blizzard is bad at ignoring them.
How many 60s do you plan on having? For me its:prot warriorholy priestdruidmage
>>586205971Yes definitely!
>>586208721Be realistic anon. Everything he said ended up being true with the only difference that wild growth didn't get removed but got a huge nerf instead which implies the devs changed their mind on it.
>revenge now scales with 25% attack power at all rankswhat was it before??
>>586209427The ole Orgrimmar Kielbasa Stroll huh? Classic.
>>586209518Competitive raiders don't care about class balance. If there's an OP class, they'll play it instead of the weak class. If there's an OP race, they'll pay money to swap to it.
>>586209518thats why you go with the one month at a time sub. quitting time could be right around the corner
>>586209561it didnt scale at all
how do you feel knowing that wow forever is finished in 8 minutes? https://www.twitch.tv/finalfantasyxiv
>>586209518Theyre going to add in heroic and mythic difficulties so pros have something to do and they can stretch content.
explain unsealed wrath to me like i'm a girl
>>586209708You can play more than one video game, zoomie.
>>586209128Blessing of WindfuryCurse of WindfuryWindfury ShoutSlice and WindfuryWindfury ShotPower Word: Windfury
>>586209704kek can't believe blizzard saw how strong prot is rn and made them stronger
>>586209708wrong thred
>have chosen Warlock all along, locked in>mere days till Launch>suddenly urge to go Rogue insteadAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>#1 Choice for main right nowPaladin>Heavy considerationRogueShaman>Some level of interest PriestWarlockWarriorHunter>Nah, manDruidMage
humanmalemagepvp48 points into frostnot looking anything upjust building the full pvp setand doing wpvpdon’t care and not going to read autistic shit
>>586209759It's still seal twisting but instead of twisting on every auto attack you now just twist probably every 5 seconds or something.
>>586209786incomprehensible, only exception when in raid logging phase
>>586206808Nah, you are jostling! You just must be joshing me right now!AP prot is real, prot paladin white hits are very relevant now and prot threat is fixed!
Add Satyr (for Horde)
>>586209895it do be like that
>>586209316It's probably better this way.
What the fuck is this?
>>586209991No way this isn't getting nerfed.
>>586209708>the game that has a larger ERPing secondlife community than raiding community>killing WoWIf it didn't happen during the exodus during covid in Shadowbringers, it's never happening anon. They had every MMO player on earth finally giving them attention and instead of capitalizing they just stuck to their same regular ass boring ass formula. And now they're making the game even more retard babyproof next expansion. XIV is not long for this world.
>>586209991It's based
>>586209991anti caster ability for paladins
>>586209991spell block is so fucking based I'm tempted to pvp as prot
>>586209316That cat almost has the JUST hairline
Love to see druids taking Ls
Am I fucking up by rolling hunter over paladin or making a good choice. Chuds respond only please. If non chuds reply that will result in a three day ban.
>>586209991they really want tanks in world pvp to be like retail pvp tanks dont they
>>586210025Spellblock is worthless unless it counts dots anon, which it didn't in retail so.
>>586209991What stuff gets triggered by this?
make sure you install the essential addons.
>>586210128nyo :3
>>586209991there are going to be bosses where this is needed, aren't there
>>586210219show me less of this content
>>586210097>Priest casts Shadow Word Death on you>Block it>They kill themselvesKino alert
>>586210219if i looked like this dude i'd off myself
>>586210154Die instantly as soon as they are so much as to looked at?
>>586210219thankfully avoid seemed to finally work on this retard's channel
>>586210128Hi I'm woke. Hunter is first and foremost a solo leveling class that feels very good to level. Obviously you're going to have comparative "trouble" getting into groups but we're talking the difference between you might have to spend five minutes looking for a group on launch versus being able to do every dungeon frame one as prot. The bigger issue comes down to raid slots where it could be hard compared to paladin but also raids are a month away and you're more than able to level a hunter fully to cap and then see where the winds are shifting for hybrids. If you want to play hunter just play hunter but if you're extremely paranoid about groups play a hybrid.
>>586210219he's so fucking ugly it makes me madwhy do people watch this ugly fuck grifter's videoshe doesnt play ANY version of wowalso never forget him larping playing ffxiv for a year when he never even played the game
>>586207887when the pov is green
>>586210270>Block>Describes reflectkekyPOWY i forgot the average player here is a brown parser
>>586210219if I looked like that i would troon out and if i still wasnt hot id kill myself next
why do chuddies play a game thats made by faggots, jews, trannies and indians
>>586210270>lock thinks he's going to execute you with conflag into shadowburn>just wastes a shardVGH...BY THE LIGHT
>>586206329Where are people getting 6k hp from?Fresh level 60s (excluding tanks) have about 3000 hp. Sometimes less (like mages). Please don't tell me the hp pools got retailified.
THIS changes EVERYTHINGThe one WoW Forever change that NOBODY Is talking aboutMy favorite Wow Forever changesForever will save WoW and here's why
>>586210025At any rate "requires level 1" is an indication the tooltip isn't fully baked yet.
>>586210443hys huotroon
>>586210219bellular is based because he sums up dogshit retail content in 20 minutes or less
>>586210463you have ZERO idea what shadow word death does, don't you you smelly 75 IQ tourist?
>>586209128>imagine if they just made the game retail again! No thanks. Classes should have unique elements.
>>586210548People were hitting 2k at level 30 in the beta, 2.5k with buffs
>>586210463Look up what Shadow Word Death does before you chimp out next time faggot
>>586207880name/?
>>586210576>curved red arrow
I'm the smartest person in this general *by far*, and I'm rolling Undead Male Warlock.
why do none of the shaman leveling guides take the dodge talents? 6% dodge seems insanely strong, and dodging also resets stormstrike now....
Funfact: This patch also killed shockadin.Everyone point and laugh.
>>586210463bait or retardedcall it
>>586210835>leveling guidesoh no no no
>>586210818Just put the shards in the bag bro
>>586210219who is we
>>586210835>leveling guides
how do I filter avatarfags
if you're the kind of fotm retard worried about balance and how blizzard is gonna touch your class inappropriately you should just play warrior. it's classic, warrior isn't allowed to be bad.
>>586210964you, me, us
>>586210818you wont be warlockguy
pooever aka turtle minus is going to fail miserably
>>586210219
>>586209991means spamming holy strike like crusader strike and giving pallies so much damage mitigation they’ll lose threat to the hunter.
>>586211036I was a Nien truther when he was getting Brutal Gladiator with Chumpjohn, zoomie
>when you finally get to 60 and then realize all your based chud bros quit and you're surrounded by they/thems
>>586210746wtf manI remember mobs having 2k hp around level 40 (lower STV) how'd they fuck up the stat scaling already?
>>586209895I will be the same, bro, but consider this: Let the warlock lead the pack and get some funding, greens, and legacy points in to help the rogue follow.
>>586210835thats why you should pick druid
>>586210835Most guides are shit despite being written by 10k hour retards. All the Paladin leveling guides for example take Benediction instead of Deflection when 5% extra parry for the haste and damage reduction is 10x better than 10% mana reduction on insta cast you'll regen before the next mob anyway.
>>586210771>>586210663>>586210896>Bubububghf!!>Y-you'll take a bit of damagerino!!!>you'll die HECKING INSTANTELERINO!!!>I BLOOOOCKED!!! SAAAR!!! SAAR I BLOCKED 200 DAMAGE OFF YOUR SHADOW WORD EXECUTE SAAR!!!>YOU HAVE TO DIE TO 30% HP BACKLASH SAAR!!!>SAAAR!!! SAR STOP PLAYING GOOD AND ACCOUNTING FOR MY VERY RELEVANT>YOU MUST BE DUNG EATING SUBHUMAN BUTRAT LIKE MEEEELil guptas~ Go back to eating cow shit you little retards
>>586211110isn't chumpjohn the fat guy from the serennia nerd rage videois serennia in jail for being a rapist yet
>>586211157Your "based chud bros" are the they/thems.
>>586211157me second from the left
>>586210576RED textBLACK borderYELLOW arrows and symbols
Why did the Donut King completely wipe out Assfat's paaladin seal twisting playstyle, is there big trouble brewing in the dojo, no negativity of course
>>586211110shouldn't you be rolling nelf hunter then? *gawk gawk gawk*also off by 1 quints
>>586210128You're fucking up, bro. Hunter = pet = knots, meaning you're surrounded and presumed to be one of them You Just Knows. Paladin has just now been given the power to force the spellcasting clothies to kneel and kill themselves as they deserve for their degenerate, finger-wiggling ways.Stay paladin, stay pure, brother.
what warcraft characters are canonically trans other than chromie and sylvanas
>>586211370(You)
turtle wow was forever, but with soul
>>586210818Same, but for me it'sMaleDwarfRoguewith the face and lots of gag addons
>>586211370Thrall
>>586211289He didn't, he made the faux seal twisting even more explosive, poopy head. And Assfat wasn't a fan of the faux seal twisting, he wants the real seal twisting that requires actually watching your swing timer.
>>586211234But wowfg told me... the human male... paladin.... based chuds.... no......
>>586209125yes on CD, but this buffs our healing parse because of DP and VE healing so they are whining for no reason other than they might kill themselves during aoe like retards
>>586211370Patchwerk
>>586209787Mark of the WindfurySmooth Windfury StoneWindfury ArrowWindfury ShoutUnderwater Windfury
>>586211370nothing is canon in warcraft
>>586211370
>>586211159twinked out minmaxed level 30s had 2.5K HP. normal 30s were not close to that.
>>586211495Sorry you had to find out like this. The most outspoken "chuds" are all repressed nonbinary transbian Liliths.
what's he maining?
When people say ANAL [Item] what is the first part of that supposed to mean? Where did it come from? Was there ever a real meaning to it
>>586211224lol, I think that was Sck, but I'm not sure, I just remember Swarmthe World of Ming post where Serennia stole the iphone did indeed lead to charges
>>586211660I don't think he's playing WoW.
im just excited to play WoW: Forever on the RP-PVP NA not-server with my friends in the all dwarf RP-PVP guild :)
>>586211157the answer is right in front of you but you'd rather stay mazed
>>586211660ret paladin
>>586211707Serennia is apparently a serial rapist now in Texas. He cryptoscams, and drugs/rapes women at EDM concerts or something.
>>586211663must be some weird translation thing from trannyservers bcuz back in the day we said anal [spell]
>>586210219watching it now. thanks CHADular
>>586210576>synopsis of an chatGPT writeup of information give to us by blizzard three weeks ago
>>586211870Which means what
there are still massive rogue changes coming
>streamers can freely rmt with no consequence>streamer is going to rmt and kill you in game with his rmted gear and make a video and you'll look bad online>dungeon exp massively nerfed because aggrend wants you to buy the leveling guide>no new classes>bad class balance>players right beside you mass disappear into another layer>you will click another player in pvp and he will disappear into another layer immediately>russian hackers will spawn from another layer right when you attack a mob and kill you instantly>insane new gear power creep>all leveling through quests>zero social aspects>all hybrids suck because hybrids>all twitch channels blatantly viewbotted>massive reddit post a sunset and get 3000 likes psyop>ugly new elf race>new elf race breaks lore>low effort elf race for both factions because it's cheaper>low effort elf race still costs $30 and no one complained which means all other new races will also cost $30 minimum>everyone still needs to be an engineer>endgame is still raidlog>speedrunning to 60 in 2 weeks and then raidlogging is still how the game is meant to be played>insane balance changes every single week by the SC2 balance team that make absolutely no sense but disappoint everyone>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't realize night elf racials are overpowered>dev doesn't play the game and doesn't think>main dev literally said in a podcast he is going to make rogue the best class in the game because he wants to>you can't disable the fog anymore>biggest streamer is a nazi>biggest streamer killed his own motheryep, they gave up on wow fogever
lf diapered tranny domme to farm herbs and healsissy for
>>586211663If you find an item that would be funny if it was shoved up someone's butt, you say anal [item].
>>586208498>>586208632>>586208765yeah they definitely started working on this before 2024. they just kept early work siloed before testing out the ideas in SoD.
>>586211851lmao
Is mage fun? I had a 60 mage on lights hope or one of those servers, but from what I remember it felt kind of boring in pvp, every fight felt the exact same
>>586211157wont be a problem for me, since i am on pvp
Horde gonna win any bgs anymore? we know outside of death balls streamers arent doing wpvp
I've heard that in addition to EU PvP being horde faction locked, EU RP-PvP is also faction locked. Can anyone confirm or deny?
>>586211663anal [Rip]
>>586204149>>>586203379i NEED a catbox link to these worshipping human c*ck
>>586212083you are only getting a mage to use it for gold farming
>>586212014But why? Is it short for annulment or something
>>586212194You NEED to kill yourself.
>>586212083Mage PvP was incredibly fun at 60 in Classic, but it won't be as fun in this iteration. You used to have to use your brain to know what spell you were going to use for shatter, now you just wait for Fingers or Frostbite and then press Ice Lance.
>>586212194calm down whitey, those babes are for green dick only
>>586211870>>586211663>>586212014It's really hard to beat ANAL [Blood Worms]
>>586212179can confirm that i also heard this
>>586212179There was horde faction lock on the first name res day, idk nowwould make sense tho is prob horde rerolling rp-pvp since pvp is bricked
my kid broke her arm tonight
>>586212248Respectfully, hope this helps.
>>586212083It’s okay if you really enjoy frost spec but arcane/fire are still terrible in pvpI’m going warlock this time since they have multiple strong specs you can play if one gets nerfed or I want a diff playstyle
If Alexensual has a million fans, then I am one of them. If Alexensual has ten fans, then I am one of them. If Alexensual has only one fan then that is me. If Alexensual has no fans, then that means I am no longer on earth. If the world is against Alexensual, then I am against the world.
Is Unsealed Wrath basically Windfury or am I totally misunderstanding what it does?>3 stacks of seal of command>each stack has a chance to activate the seal's effect>all stacks expended on next auto attack after switching seals
>>586212009>thinking a tranny, no less a diaper uwu tranny, would ever dom/top a tranny chaseras a resident diapertroon, lol. lmao even.
>>586206085Cute that you think this game will have a 2 year lifespan.
>can perma fear demons with a insta castwarlocksissies have been awfully quite since the latest patch
>>586212363I was about to go>level 45>death knight???but then I remembered retail did like two or more level crunches. soulless
>>586212502>quietesl-chan....
>>586212445uh oh kiddie aggro brb gotta go afk
>>586212559>soullessvery much
So did pallys get buffed or nerfed? The patch notes don't look that great to me but everyone is acting like they are saved
>>586212486He didn't say top.
>>586212489its a certainty they will at least regurgitate the raids from classic, the first tier is already set, 4 tiers for 4 months each makes 2 inevitable
>>586205916>friend couldnt even hit level 40 on classic launch>he's excited for foreverI do not get it
MY FELLOW DAWI!
Paladins will still lose to locks, I don't understand why you'd think removing their demon is going to help you.
>>586212673>having this saved on your computer
>>586212673>/also, he definitely wants to bottom>healsissy
>>586210835I expected better from you sis.
Pally status?
>>586212478Kind of yeah. You stack up the seal effect from your autos (ideally thrice) and the next time you swap a seal and auto that auto will, for example, roll 3 times to see if you get the seal effect proc. So if you have three stacks saved up from seal of command and then swap to something else that next auto will roll three times to see if it does 0-3 seal of command 70% attack procs.
>>586212486I wanna fuck your shit up Troon
>>586211370You, the player.
>>586212704Are there even any good looking hammers like this in the game
>>586210453zug zug
>Massive Paladin buffs and Druid nerfs last secondThis is retarded and a bad look
>>586210219>Dwarf paladin>Zero add-ons>SD models on>Transmog off
>>586212991She would never do this
>>586206286It's still not as good as warrior and druid imo. Swipe is extremely good and makes druid the easy pick for best aoe tank.>easily spammable>all 3 enemies hit proc on hit effects independently>can be tab targetted for tanking bigger groups at once>highest threat modifier (50% to bonus on all damage)>can use sappers in bear formWarrior is probably the best mitigation and single target threat now with the revenge changes.Paladins will be viable but I don't think they'll ever be ideal>only gets bonus threat from holy damage>worst tank itemization because all damage is spell damage>can be mana burned>if they're not getting attacked, they're not generating mana>still shitty single target threat compared to bear and warrior
>>586212772Images with the filename "File" are from the clipboard.>>586212794If you're in a relationship, sexual or not, and the other participant is smarter, wealthier or stronger than you, they are automatically the dom. Trannies are, on average, smarter and wealthier than non-Trannies. This is a contributing factor for why many people, including myself, are transphobic.
>>586213042In classic Human paladins becomes knights of the silver hand and deputies of Elwynn do dwarf paladins get anything like that through their leveling
>>586212862>templar’s bulwark can now be magic dispelled Wait wtf thats a big nerf
>>586212991plapping to this
>>586209991
>>586213151>In classic Human paladins becomes knights of the silver handNigga, everyone becomes a knight of the silver hand, Kel'thuzad is the final boss.
>>586212194https://files.catbox.moe/tp3rml.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/yw0t0z.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/gpu2p5.png
>>586213237What's plapping
>>586213312Where are the gnome varieties of this?
>>586212704Wrong game buddy. In this one you're a fat midget.
>>586212179>>586205862
>>586213293No I mean literally recognized as a member of that order through their class
>>586213338Nothing much, what's plapping with you?
>>586213139>Trannies are, on average, smarter and wealthier than non-Trannies. This is a contributing factor for why many people, including myself, are transphobic.interesting argument but I guess insecurity breeding anger is logical. i admittedly live in an expensive major us city on my own off the backs of simps and haven't lifted a finger to work in years, so i cant argue>>586212923too bad you're a healsissy then
>>586213338you cage up, take your big green dildo and go plap plap plap on your balls
>>586213151Yes. Dwarves largely have the same quests that humans do.
>>586213208All it takes to beat a paladin is 1 gcd spent on purge.
>>586213151The Dwarven paladins are also technically agents of the Silver Hand, as their priests were introduced to the paladin method by their human allies of the Second War.
>>586213460That doesn't sound very enjoyable
>>586206730based shadow priest. invite me and i can be your second
>>586212964Sulfuras, MoM, Unstoppable Force, Taran Icebreaker, Mograins Fist
>>586212009can you try typing in english?
>>586212802what I seriously don't get how the 6% dodge isnt one of the best leveling talents, and almost no one seems to be taking it
>>586213431Worsei'm a Rogue
If I play Dorf Shaman, how much cock will meleefags suck to join my group?
>>586213703are there multiple of you? the original guy said he's a healsissy
>>586213729All of it especially if you agree to be resto
>>586213623do you seriously not understand how useless 6% additional dodge is?
So uh, you already secured your position in your guild right? You're not actually planning on tanking/healing for random people right? You're not cucked enough to tank/heal for random people you'll never see again right?
i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored i am bored
>>586213623dead mobs do 0 damage
>>586209991Warrior is the main tank against physical hitting bosses.Paladin is the main tank against magic hitting bosses.Druid is the off-tank.
>>586213762Yeah theres multiple chasers in this thread right nowBe very afraid
>>586211980>Blizzard snuck THIS list of changes in>What the datamine info on rogue REALLY means>First look at the rogue changes you NEED TO KNOW for WoW Forever
>>586213729I don't invite enhance shamans as a prot warrior because you fuckers keep pulling aggro.no paladinsno warriorsno hance shamsand no rogues if the dungeon I'm running as a weapon I want
>>586213623thats why you need to pick druid
>>586213762I'd like to also throw my hat in the ring as a third anon wanting to get dommed by a tranny
>faggot in guild who won't shut the fuck up about turtleWoWI'm actually glad that server died
>>586207816>Northrend is already in the game
based chaserhomos telling that tranny to man up
where are the official patch notes tho? blizzard hasn't posted them .
>>586214069DUDE
>>586213993should probably add hunter to the list to be safe
Whelp. Was gonna go feral druid but it looks like it's warrior tank for the 4th time. SoD was better than this shit. Way more exciting.
>>586214138>level cap increase already on the horizongreat...
>>586212991No, don't lift it
>>586214069WEEEEEEEEEEEEEED lmao
>>586214059Time to find a new guild (with me)
Subhuman scalpers are running scripts to snipe names as they release, is this fucking real?
>>586214276What guild are you in?
>>586213096>only gets bonus threat from holy damageWrong, RF gives 33% more threat>worst tank itemization because all damage is spell damageThat means it gets its own specially designed set>can be mana burnedYes>if they're not getting attacked, they're not generating manaNew 31 talent fixes that>still shitty single target threat compared to bear and warriorIt'll be better with the 31 point talent and Holy Strike damage buff
>>586214184But who will tank the adds???
ngl them giganerfing druid almost makes me want to go druid now that its not fotm anymore
>>586214051I don't dom anon. I pee my diapers and tank dungeons.>>586213975spooky
>>586213431It's not insecurity, it's because people of different intellectual quotients are fundamentally incompatible. A functioning society isolates people of higher quotients, historically this was done by sending smart outliers in farming communities off to monasteries and dumb outliers in urban communities out to the countryside, but the industrial revolution and enlightenment broke everything.
>>586214367>5 man*presses tab button* done>raidsAnother warrior
>FUn havers>RemigrationWhy did you guys fucking made up the worst names possible for a guild... I wanna join on pve, but fuck that name...
>>586213096>if they're not getting attacked, they're not generating manaswordborn is now instant 4% mana every 6 seconds
>>586213516it helps being russian they're genetically predisposed to itright, maye
>>586214447Not even enough mana to keep consecrate up.
>>586214219Northrend doesn't inherently come with a level cap increase.
>>586214386nah shaman is still your better pick :)
>>586214432Prot warrior deals negative damage if not tanking and a fury/arms wars won't hold agro.
>>586214219anon if they ever increase level cap the game will die overnight please try to use that brain you allegedly have between your ears
What are you jacking off to leading up to wowf opening day?
>>586214138having another entire continent separate from EK and Kalimdor seems like the opposite of their stated intentions
>>586214681I've been using my gfs throat to cum every day
>>586214646Good thing we have dual spec!It's cute watching you try so hard to make the other class tanks viable. Even more cute watching you fail.
>>586214281now that boosting is off the table, they have to do something to keep the light on
>>586214681Peach x Bowser Rule 34.
How would life be in a big streamer guild, like Soda’s, Xaryu’s, Pikaboo etc?
well now what the fuck do I do
>>586214587it will be when i take the 40% reduced spell cost in holy on top of the 10% in ret
>>586214391>get spanked by Mobs in Dungeons>pisses her lil diapers all cute>gets throatfucked by (me) after the run is overLife is good hu?
>>586214646That's why they added dual spec, dummyjust swap to fury when not tanking
>>586214443This is the type of faggot who posts on Reddit about getting his reserved names.
>>586214681sissy hypno
>>586214587It will be when you spec into Holy Conduit, Reverence or Sanctified Judgement in Ret.
>>586214784miserable, it's a constant fight for attention from someone who could not give less of a fuck about you and views you as a means to an end rather than someone to play with. everyone in the guild who isn't a streamer will constantly try and powergame on you to look better in the eyes of their god, everyone is a means to an end for clout. Go play with real people instead of drones.
Are rogues still the best DPS in the game?
>>586214681i'm retaining my mana to maximize dopamine on release
normies are such scum while we are all excited and preparing for wow forever these losers are trying to end the entire world, usher in endless blackouts and forever world war. the shit these normies do who don't play video games is disgusting and sick. when nothing fucking happens theyre just going to do the same retarded thing next election cycle too.
>>586214681softcore webms and pics on /tv/
>>586207867Is that 15% spirit bullshit raidwide now or is it still only party wide?
>>586214681pixiv ai sloppa
>>586214857ty for not answering my question
I just got dumped a bunch of time sensative work I need to do from Thursday. I already cleared out all of my appointments and now I fucking have to work
>>586214749>>586214851It's cute you think the mandatory feral in raids won't off-tank since their dps is worse than a fury/arms warrior.
Are Rogues the real winners of all the racial and class based changes in WoW Forever, Rogues were so dominant during the original Vanilla era of the game many people called the game not World of WarCraft but World of RogueCraftAre Rogue sissies doing themselves a disservice by whining for changes when they could end up worse off and them being an untouched class is really a blessing in disguise?
>>586215025Please don't join either and fuck off
>>586214841sounds kino, so long as you pass the filter check>fat>bald>unemployed
>>586215031it's not like launch week is gonna be fun anyway anon, every mob will be turbo camped and log in queues are gonna be hellish
>>586214749>>586214851How much does it cost to unlock dual spec
>>5862151671000 gold
>>586215069you know they're shitty names..
>>586214919>still>implying they were ever the best
>>58621516710000 gold
>>586215068idki hear people still say theyre essentially worthless for PvE content though you may still have 1 rogue in a raid for armor shred and kick and if you want to be optimal you have to play a fucking gnome which is extremely cringenight elfs should be the best rogues for obvious reasonstheyre still pvp gods but again who the fuck wants to play a gnome?
I hate frost mage, it's the worst part of the class and they should replace it with a barrier mage support spec or some shit.t. mage player
>>586215226>>586215263
>>586215167They teased dual spec at level 30 so it'll be 40-50g.
>>586215167your anal virginity, guess you're not getting dual spec eh
never cheat never lievanilla fresh until i die
>>586215167100000 gold
>>586213208Eh, what monster dispells? I cant think of one.
>>586215146but that's the most fun time
>>586215167we don't knowwasn't in betashouldn't be expensive though
>>586215385she needs to have the horde insignia womb tattoo barely peeking out
>>586215127I am posting on 4chan chasing a troon at 4amThis is my lifes purpose, not sitting in a wage cage
>>586215167350 gold
What are retoileters worst takes one WoW Forever?
Vanilla player hereWhat's dual spec?
I want to take skinning/leatherworking as a tauren druid but herb/alch seems like such a no brainer thanks to stealth dungeon farming and the herb racial.
>>586215309Don't ever insult gnome heritage again, kodo jockey
im ready for forever
>>586215482>4amEU, oof. forgot that filter
>>586215336Why is there a spacegoat in the background of this image of living Ras Frostwhisper?
>>586215537that anybody will be moving to retail after forever dies
Should I make my warrior an undead or a fem skelf?
>>586215604Glad I could help you add anotherDon't get too pissy nowOr do, you know you want to
>>586215608Hearthstone. Scholomance in Hearthstone is fake Hogwarts but they teach everyone, not just wizards.
>>586215167Hopefully Aggrend will take my feedback and Dual-Spec will be the reward at the end of a new Class Quest-chain that takes you to Riverglades and into the Stronghold, rather than a gold-buy.
>>586214313Searching for a good guild for me and my pals currently.
>>586215127>wanting your wow partner to be employedretard alert retard alert!
>>586215603You can't play it on a shitbox yet.
>>586215592gnomes are supposed to be casters, their whole thing is tinkering, engineering, intellect all that type of shitthe "night" elf should obviously be the best at the stealth classes like rogue and druid
>>586215603Oh, you upgraded
>>586215592kodo jockey
>>586215742they're going to use wow forever as a "launch title" for the xbox helix next year but the game runs on much older hardware easily, even the xbox one x can run this game ez pz
its officially WEED days left until wow
>>586215796this reminds me of my childhood, growing up playing gamecube with my best friends in their unfinished basement's. i know it's a meme, but i could hang out there forever(tm)
>>586215603based. see you out there gamer
WTF is the point of leveling druid now? I mean I kinda understand why they did this:>easiest to lvl on a pvp server due to stealth>instant group invite in dungeon>can play 3 roles okay(before, now not so okay...)
>>586214915 yikes yea that does sound pretty awfuli’ll pick one in trade chat with a cool name and hope for the best then
tinker is the next class added to forevergoblingnomesand humanshuman tinkers look like d.va from OW
>>586215827it's so dumb why did i laugh
>>586215771Gnomes are the closest thing WoW has to Halflings, who are the quintessential Thief/Rogue player race. Unless they add Halflings to the game when we go to Balor, Gnomes should be the best rogue race.
>>586215796>RARE SUXfucking classic, man
>>586215884dude im stoned rn
>>586215923it's necromancer
>>586215923what about Blorcs?
why bring a ret paladin instead of a fury warrior in 30 words or less
is Pally good now or nah?
>>586215827Do you think they'll have Jack Black in the inevitable World of Warcraft animated series coming to Skydance+ (formerly Paramount+, HBO Max and Discovery+)?
>>586215537>HD models are better than SD models>Where is the <retail feature>?>Could we crossrealm with other Rulesets?>This game is a walking simulator>I HAVE to play the Skyborne>"This game isn't hard its just frustrating">implications that Gilneas potentially being a playble zone means there's going to be playable (Alliance) worgen>Acting like the Alliance were "given" Dalaran>I can't wait for Vulpera
>>586216101paladin went from good at the start of beta, to complete trash at the end of beta to now gods
>>586215897Its only a nerf for resto. Berserk is going baseline.
>>586216101yes
>>586211980Yeah sure thing bud
if i see one more of you paladin faggots ask if you should play paladin...lead dev pet class you're going to be fine shut the fuck up
>>58621608230 min reck
>>586215939halflings dont live in giant steampunk cities lmfao they clearly werent going for a halfling thingtheyre gnomes and their whole deal is intellect so they should be top caster which already would already give them several classes to be the best atthen night elves could have the stealth shit and dwarves could have like hunter and shaman and humans could have warrior and paladinall of this would make sense to some degree but they just picked racials seemingly at random with no thematic justification
>>586216202it's not
>>586216082buffs, auras and other utilities
>>586216286You need to be clever to be an effective thief.
I am going to find my wife playing on the RP-PVP server
>>586215897Wait for the soda video, the fix is in
>>586216202Cool so you can farm for shit that you will never use since you're never going to be invited to a raid.
OH. MY. HECK.
>>586216202Fucking insane how one small typo in Wowhead made this huge feral nerf completely pass most people by since there are so many retards going "durrrrr it's baseline now".
>>586216185>me cheering, clapping, and cumming when jack black cgi elite tauren chieftain strums his guitar and says skadoosh
>>586216370you also need to be tall enough to physically reach peoples valuables and have legs long enough to run away lol
I can't decide between orc or undead for warlock PvP. I was leaning towards orc but I've heard conflicting opinions about Touch of the Grave, pretty polarizing ones too. Some claim its extremely good while others claim its pretty terrible. I'm too stupid to make up my mind
>>586216462Why would he be a Tauren?
>>586216434
>>586216532Touch of the Grave is one of those things that will undoubtedly be changed and tweaked and maybe even completely removed at some point. I wouldn't base your decision around that. Just pick which race appeals to you more
>>586216532in general if youre conflicted just pick what you think is coolerundead warlock is goated, everyone knows that
Did they change how windfury works with poisons for rogue?
>>586216532orc is objectively better in pvp and pve. if you can't tell this then you're just retarded
Remember when druids were making fun of warriors in the beta when they nerfed rage generation?
>>586216398mein furor...soda...soda did not have enough force.
>>586215897>moonkin and leader gives up straight 3% to both melee and casters>+6% crit if you bring 2 druidsHow is this a nerf?
>>586216742niggas will say shit like this while being out of shape living in an apartment
should i play pally? im not sure if itll be good or not…
>>586215127>he says after having admitting he's unemployed himself
Being a Rogue is fucking suffering.
>>586216795i didn't play the beta to make sure i had the most fun on launch day
>>586216825I actually live with my parents so fuck you bitch
>>586216802they're mutually exclusive
>>586216802does it actually work that way though
>>586216802It obviously won't stack anon
>>586216825fuck you nigger i am posting right next to my home gym. you can already dispel fear from yourself with fel hunter
>>586216434>disability black magescool
>>586216863Theres nothing Blizzard can do to change rogues unless they overhaul it completely.
>>586211157but i'm a skelf female chud :)
>She's rolling phys dpsyou are never ever ever getting a raid slot
>>586216889>>586216904>>586216921Even if it doesn't stack it's still +3% +3%
>>586216875
lmao the new ffxiv xpac actually looks so badits over for yoshitpiss
>>586216795Bear druids suffered from it too?
>>586217067uh whatare you mentally unwell?
>>586217045>warlock won't be last played this time for sure!it's like people are addicted to being wrong
>>586217007But Blizzard made Rogues even worse. >nerfed all their damage modifier talents>made their capstone a 2nd Slice&Dice buff upkeepDumbest shit imaginable.
>>586217067No, before you needed to bring a boomie for 3% ranged and feral for 3% melee, now you only need to bring one as that buff covers both.
>we're rewriting the history of gaming next weekholy shit bros
>>586216943not scream you can't
>>586217182druid toxoplasmosis
What the fuck are these druid changes
>>586215358https://files.catbox.moe/atjaql.png
Did pallys get buffed or nerfed? I don't get it
>>586217271that's fine, even if you couldn't dispel magic fears on yourself orc is still leagues better.
>>586217293hybrid tax
>>586217358buffed aside from shockadin
>>586210189Paladin can just dispel the dots, retard.
where are the official patch notes ffs!
>>586217293They buffed feral so I'm happy.
>>586217371The guy that won the 100k tournament said hes going undead and that was before the buff to touch of the grave.
Im glad druids are getting nerfed tbqh. Hopefully they catch more nerfs. The class as a whole is broken beyond belief. Its only balanced by the fact women, retards, and furries play it so they all fucking suck.
>>586217440you'll get them on launch day
>>586217383whats wrong with wheelchairs
>>586217120Berserk was gonna let Bear Druids pump out no-cooldown AoE Primal Bites every 3 minutes, it was evil.That's the big thing, everything else about them stayed basically the same.
it's so fucking gay and retarded that gear gets locked to your character, I wanted to use the same gear set in multiple characters
>>586217114Wrong thread mega retard
>retoilet and xiv dead in the same week forever releasesimpeccable gambit, Asha
>>586217465Didn't you guys lose your fear immunity though?
you'll quietly /leave general and try to mindlessly level on wednesday to forget, but i'll be here to remind you to jump off thandol span, it's a pretty view
What if they delay the launch?
>>586217520
>>586217479If they wanted to nerf they should change the numbers, cause this looks like they're completely clueless
feral leveling looks comfy, idk about endgame though. looks like a disaster for anything but bear. hope you guys didnt rebind s key
friendly reminder that to call yourself a dad gamer you have to be a father and that means you need to have a child>not a dog child like your husky or german shepard>your biological child not your wifes sonjust a small and friendly reminder.
>>586217626is this for the shamans? they have the highest death count from falling
>>586212709You're in for a very rude surprise.
>>586217637>tfw martial law after midterms
>>586217470then go undead, i'm sure it will be super useful against all the alliance warlocks and priests
>>586217637To do what? Pretend like their balancing shit? Ohhh boy i wonder if human is going to get their poopoopeepee passive buffed or if gnomes are going to get their scrimblobimblo nerfed! Oh boy! Blizzard is too retarded to balance with feedback. Without it they are just wasting time.
>>586205868MAGESISSIES IT'S HECKIN OVER
>>586217520You have magic, but instead of using it to make it so you can walk again, you continue to sit in a wheelchair. FFXIV is the same but with the addition of science fiction technology.
At what point are they going to throw their hands up and move to a retail talent/spec system because they clearly can't handle the current one
With Discipline bricked, do you think it would be better to level holy and do dungeons for gear or level shadow and just quest to 60 and respec after?
>>586217690stepdads are cucks but if they're in for the ride they're objectively dads, they still gotta do all the dad shit
>>586217690the price of being a dad gamer is that your son will troon out
Just saw they buffed paladin. I was going to main one vefore they nerfed it to the ground. Should I main one now?
>>586217835khadgar isnt a priest or druid or shaman or paladin
>>586217887yes
>>586217860cuck delusions
>>586206343Her feet specifically? They hold a delightfully subtle musky odour with a hint of sweetness and vinegar.
>>586217867actually my son is going to be a tankchad
>>586217204>nerfed all their damage modifier talentslike what? it barely changed, and now you can use poison and sharpening stones on both weapon and windfurywhat would you want instead of venom, envenom? that would probably need to be nerfed since it ignores armor and basically make assassination mandatory
>>586217626Sightseeing stuff like this is really fun with mage, priest, druid, (and I guess shaman for waterwalk), or anyone with a parachute. The jump from Felwood and Darnassus go on Forever
>>586217976
>>586217842hows it bricked
>>586217358Buffed all 3 specs apart from Shockadin. The only person crying about Paladin being "nerfed" is Esfat.
My only choice I’m worrying about is what beard to go with for my dwarf paladin
>>586217626Jumping off the Thandol Span is required for multiple quests.
>>586217842How did disc get bricked?
>posted 2 days ago saying "what if they let protection paladins block spells>pally updated today with a capstone that lets them block spellsTHE DEVS ARE IN THIS THREAD
>>586217842It's priest, all you need is 2/2 Wand Spec and maybe Spirit Tap
>>586218357good they were the hardest to heal by far during beta
>Shadow Priest nerfed?????????My mind genuinely can't comprehend it. Literally, WHY.
>>586217690Make this same post on tw*tter but about cat moms.
>>586215734Ok lmk
>>586217690I KNEEL
>>586217798I was thinking about this too. WotF just seems mostly useless? Alliance warlock is literally the least played thing in the entire game and you can felhunter dispel the fear anyway. Priests are in the middle of alliance popularity and they are too busy fearing melee off themselves anyway. Also warrior fear has a long cooldown so who cares. Considering undead has 2 not very valuable racials all that is left is TotG. Is that better than Blood Fury, 20% stun reduction, 5% pet damage, and the new talent orcs got that sadly got nerfed so hard that its actually pretty bad bad now? I do really still like TotG but I think I'm going orc still. If only they brought pack paid race changes
>>586216387What happens next
>>586217520Khadgar's in particular is ultra retarded because it's a flying magical conjuration it's not even a real chair. The devs decided to use their physical wheelchair with wheels model for a flying magical chair that doesn't touch the ground. Also lore wise the person who conjured the chair is chick who has a crush on him. So a master mage who has a crush on another master mage was so lazy and unimaginative she conjured a basic wooden chair with wheels for her amore.It's extremely retarded both in game development wise, and also lore wise.
>>586217213What if they're different auras? Like one druid do the moonkin aura then another have leader of the pack. Why wouldn't they stack?
>>586218169Power Word: Shield, even fully buffed up, is just not strong enough to carry the entire spec. Penance got nerfed into oblivion. Power Infusion is a meme. At the moment, Discipline is exactly in the same spot that it was in during Vanilla, which is to say that its the spec you dip into to pick up Silent Resolve and Meditation. Divine Spirit is a base class spell now, so you don't even need to get it anymore, just those two. Discipline is entirely out-performed by Holy in the healing department and Shadow in the solo-questing department.
>>586217896Khadgar is friends with the leaders of all those classes though.
>>586218357They showed one blocking a lightning bolt in the gameplay trailer at blizzcon. It was all planned.
>>586218549nowotf is not uselessundead > orcnu hardiness is worse, actually dodging a stun was way more broken than 20% reduction5% pet damage and curse thing are dogwaterblood fury is fine but totg is just as good, totg is underratedyour "logic" about class numbers and not getting feared much is nonsense, trust me nigga you will be getting feared
>hunters the mosted hated class in this gameis this true?
>>586218630>Why wouldn't they stack?Because they're mutually exclusive as they now do the same thing so you only need to bring 1 boomie or feral.>>586218745>Penance got nerfed into oblivionThe rank 1 version did because having a 12 second 100 mana heal full isn't balanced.
>>586218357I like to think my post about how only autists enjoy seal twisting and totem twisting and they got rid of totem twisting but made seal twisting a talent is retarded was the straw that tipped the scales into them changing it.
>>586218894no the people that play them are hated. the class itself is fine
>>586217470He won the tournament when touch was at it's weakest after the racial patch that just happened.
>>586218894>do a skip>person doesnt dismiss pet>pull everything
>>586218894>steal aggro>steal loot>retard magnet
>>586218894Bad Hunters are terrible, but I fear and respect good Hunters.
>>586218998>>586219020To all my hunter chads, XIV now has hunters. Come home white man....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX5jtcXjmts
Fury capstone should be titan's grip
>>586217685The dps specs are a meme but resto looks perfectly fine.
>>586219090>hunter chads>xiv
>>586219126
>>586218884new wotf is worse, you're going get feared -> wotf -> second fear is already being cast and you're on GCDat least get some racials that benefit you and not toilet of the grave
>>586217798>>586218549Why do people act like seeing priest/locks on alliance is like finding a time-lost proto drake? They are not THAT rare.
>>586218745The fact that you need to go deep Disc to unlock Power Infusion to buff a singular individual for 15 seconds when Shaman unlocks Windfury totem at level 32 to buff the entire raid permanently seems wild to me.
>>586218894>most retards per capita>takes melee weapons, even the ones that don't benefit ranged>rolls on melee leather and mail armor>even have the audacity to consider for a moment rolling on mage INT and MP/5 items, then rolls anyway to piss of mage wagies, too
You can't call yourself a minmaxxer if you're not also planning your transmog/hair colour in advance using the colour wheel.
>>586218894Yes. Most don't know how to control pets, will never use traps, keep cheetah on and they WILL Multishot first gcd.
>>586218998>>586219020>doing DM >jump into the water to skip>hunter pet not only aggros the mobs on the bridge it aggros the mob on the ship as well
>>586219202doesnt matterits still goodorc is ok but you are fooling yourself if you think it's better than undead
i wish the bald man used forever as an excuse to finally go horde so i could be a cute skelf in the horde..
>>586219202PRIEST HAS 24 SEC CD ON FEAR RETARD THEN YOU TRINKET WHEN ITS BACK UP AND FIGHT IS OVER BY THENWARLOCK HAS TO CAST TWICE AND THEN ITS ON DR SO ITS SHORT FEAR
>>586219236It's called conjure food, dipshit.
>>586218952>The rank 1 version did because having a 12 second 100 mana heal full isn't balanced.It did about the same amount of healing as your normal heal a bit more quickly and for less mana, but on a 12 second cooldown. And this doesn't account for the nerf to damage. It was nerfed because it performed really well in the stupid streamer duel tournament and for no other reason.
>redditors seethe, shit their pants, and screech if they can't run SM from 24 to 50
>>586219250>>586219242>be healsissy>see hunter in party>leaves>leader asked me why I left>says don't like player name>okay come back we kicked himworks everytime
>>586219312>undead losing to alliance lock because wotf strong i can just break fearLMAO
>be healchad>hunter instamulties and pulls aggro with growl pet>i dont care, just heal them
>>586219126>>586219163>>586219352chinks are the only ones crying about the dungeon changes because it ruined their boosting business.
as a prot warrior, this is who is allowed in my 5mans>dagger rogues (if i have a good tanking wep already)>holy paladins>mages>warlocks>priests>balance druids>resto druids>resto shamans >ele shamans
>>586219090yup, it's over for pooever, they can't recover from this, this is literally blizzard's 9/11
Am I retarded or does the new Ret capstone talent kind of work like Reckoning in that it can proc multiple seal effects at once?
Surely there must be something illegal here
>>586219119Jesus fuck no, this was the most meme bullshit they ever added to the game and I completely stopped playing Fury after it - literally the start of WoW becoming marvel bullshit.
>>586219249>planning your transmogSorry, but I'm not trans.
>Dungeon spamming required 0 effort, 0 travel, and 0 risk from either WPvP or cave/high density mob zonesGive me one good reason why it shouldn't be literally 30% as effective as questing.
>>586219539illegal? are you gonna get them arrested? lol
>>586219539laws that aren't enforced aren't laws. blizz clearly doesn't care. why do you?
What's the point of rushing to level 60 in a day or two? I don't get it. You still need other players to do high level PvE content.
>>586219470You do realized that the chink money is now parity with the USD? So unless you're willing to pay some chicom $50 to run you through a dungeon it's no longer happening. That being said the jeets, brown monkey asians, 3rd world shitholes like Pakistan(halal jeets) their money is still shit and they can still make a living selling gold.
>>586219450It's not about you healsissy, it's the tanks that then have to clean up the hunters shit because he damn well won't feign nor frost trap while running away into another pack.
Am I missing something or is binding heal strictly better than flash heal? Gotta be a data mining bug.https://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=1240774/binding-healhttps://www.wowhead.com/forever/spell=10917/flash-heal
>>586219692hello anime troonunless you are literally the first 60 there will be other 60syou can make gold, do dungeons, do attunement quests, level professions
how does loot work in this game?you just roll on whatever and get kicked if you roll against the raid?
>>586219489no feral?
>>586219635necesito vender boosties amigooooo AIEEE AIEEEEE
>>586219721>You do realized that the chink money is now parity with the USD?>0.15 to 1FSGDSGDHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHFHGSFHAHAHAHAHA
>>586218894>needs on every item>multishotting random packs>ignores pet>rips threat from tank and doesn't even bother to use feign deathobviously not every hunter does this but in my experience as tank hunter players are the biggest retards by far
>>586219539Dont care, still gonna waste their time by reporting every person I see using it
>>586219692>in a day or twoit's gonna take you 200 hours played to reach 60, xivtroon
>>586219752No, binding heal is better than flash heal. If you're holy, there's literally no reason to have flash heal on your bar if you have binding heal. Flash heal is for Shadow and anyone who still falls for the Disc meme.
>>586219801To be fair Asian currency doesn’t have a cents system. It’s a bit cheating. Like what if the basis for US money was the penny and not the dollar
>>586218894Why do you think they got the nickname huntard?
>>586219779did you see it in the list?
>>586219735i also play tank, i dont carepeople are such crybabiesoh noooo he multishotted i have to press le taunt? :((((((((
>>586219470People who play as tanks and healers also hate them.Why completely nerf one playstyle when you could do way simpler things to stop boosting like no exp to whole party if the mobs are gray for at least one of the party members?At this point you are just proudly proclaiming you like to eat shit.
>>586219249Congrats on planning out the gayest midget clownmog possible
>>586219752It's always been mathematically better. They cost exactly the same, heal the same, but binding heal heals another. The only point of having flash heal with binding heal on your hotbar is for Litany of Light stuff when you're full HP
>>586219907n-no?
>>586219249>transmogback to retail you go
>>586219913>Press taunt>Now one mob is on you>Now you lose rage/mana generation and it's impossible to get back because nobody else is slowing down their AOE either
>>586219692If you rush to max level you will do endgame content with competent people and not the mouth breathing masses.Playing with shit players isn't fun.
>>586219752Binding Heal is being removed.
>>586219692Shut up yuzuha and get back to sucking this cock
>was between Shaman or Pally>finally decided to go Shaman>Pally has gotten crazy buffs 6 consecutive times since then I need some help, boys. Assure me that I made the right choice. Tell me that Shaman's time is coming.
>>586220065well if we're at the point where people are aoeing properly, hopefully hunty can learn to FD, i have faith
>>586220147the long awaited mega shaman hotfix is on its way shortly
>>586220147paladin is the dev favorite
How am I suppose to fit all my abilities(Shaman) into this?
I'm not sure whether to have transmog on. The spirit of Classic compels me to know exactly what someone is wearing just at a glance but maybe transmog is worth it just for people because people are going out of their way to express their individuality and I won't even notice it unless it's toggled on.
>>586220301modifier keys
>>586220147shaman is getting raped by hotfixes next btw
>>586220147>Choose between a Shammy and the lead dev's main>He chose the Shammy>>586220149>hopefully hunty can learn to FD
>>586218894easily worst players in the game.
>>586220093trvkethe enjoyment of this game (leveling not included) is tied 1:1 with how good the people in your raid are
>>586220301Shift, ctrl or alt with another key.Are you a zoomer?
>reduce dungeon mob xp>increase dungeon quest xp>if you run a dungeon only 1 time he get more xp than classic but multiple runs of the same dungeon will be far less xpThis is honestly fine and I'd rather have it this way. Where they fucked up was randomly nerfing the quest xp by 50% midway through beta because retarded streamers complained about it being too much, not realizing you are getting that xp all at once after getting basically zero while inside the dungeon. Now the overall xp is so low that 1 run of BFD with completing every single quest can result in not even gaining 1 level.
>Binding Heal is now baseline>Holy Priest now has 1 free talent pointThis changes.
>>586214681I really want to go back to writing some preg fetish stories, but I've been on a creative dry spell.
>>586220301>>586220349also Q and E should be abilities, you should use A and D to strafe and the mouse to turn
>>586220315people with top gear are not going to wear transmog.
>>586220315I'm playing on RP so 99% of people will be using transmog
>>586220464what would you even use it on? Extra point in renew?
>>586217637Forever aka Camelot has been in development since 2024.
>SWD now takes 30% of your max health if it doesn't kill the targetThis seems a bit high
>>586220516Raiding will be piss easy and when everyone will be wearing the same tier set you will want to transmog.
>>586220349>>586220439>>586220497Shift I can hit with my pinkie, buy M4 and M5 are Ctrl and Alt.I'm trying out S,D,F for movement and worked well in the Stress Test.
>>586219470You can go to any chink website and see they're charging $500+ for a 1-60 character pilot, retard. It's just like when reddit dads promised that banning gdkp would destroy gold sellers, and then the price of gold in USD on the gold-selling sites remained the same, meaning there was just as much demand/supply as there always had been.
>>586220301I binded alt to one my mouse side buttons and you can do alt+every single one of your other keys which will create more buttons that you'll ever need with any classit may seem weird at first but it's the best change I've ever done in games like these
Am I retarded or would that new talent which lets 30% of your mana regen continue while casting Pally's have be real nice on prot and Ret too? Your normal regen from spirit applies even when you're casting a spell until it's officially "fired", at which point then your regeneration dives into the ground unless you don't cast for 5 seconds. Instant casts start the timer on that immediately and Prot/Ret have a lot of low CD instant casts now, prot especially as they lost improved seal of vengeance and easy Holy Conduit access. Human pallies are gonna go nuts with the extra spirit if so.Or am I misunderstanding how mana regen and casting works? It didn't seem like my mana regen got a major hit while casting in particular.
>>586220548Nobody expects the 1 point in Blackout
>>586220095Yea removed completely would make sense. The datamined posts I've seen all said it became trainable. I'm assuming it won't be trainable at launch.
>>586220619Personally I have capslock as ctrl, it's greatyou can use SDF but I find it makes it harder to press modifiersI also have tab bound to a "layer" when held, which lets me use F-keys from the number keys and some other shittapping it still does tab thoughso yeah just do all that and you should be fine lul
>>586220497>you should use A and D to strafe and the mouse to turnBlows my mind that people still don't play like this.>>586220608>if it doesn't kill the targetEasy fix, kill the target.
>>586220608Yeah it is, I think they don't want you to use it on cd or something.. .
>>586220315>maybe transmog is worth it just for people because people are going out of their way to express their individualitySounds gay.
>druid healing nerfed>priest class lead doesn't seem to know wtf they're doing>shaman sitting pretty but>pop imbal forces you to play as a fucking dwarf if you want to be a healslutWhy is Blizzard like this?
>>586220873clicking abilities and keybaord turning are comfysweating isn't
>>586220959they will be fine, stop being a retard who gets his bussy wet over beta notesdumb nigger
the best key binding is the one that makes it feel like you’re playing a piano with your left hand.
>>586220464>Binding Heal is now baselineBlizzard wouldn't be this retarded, would they?
>>586221050Bwo lacks critical information
>>586221050Zero point in even putting flash heal on your bar at this poitnt.
do you trust zirene ?https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/faerlina/zirene?zone=1006https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/faerlina/zirenep?zone=1011https://classic.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/62889097?zone=1010&spec=Retribution&class=Paladinis he up for the job
>Druids guttedTank queue status?
>>586220860Do you know the macro that swaps abilities on your bar?Like if I hit 1 it'll be Earth Shock, and if it hit Shift1 it'll show that I used Flame shock, etc
>>586220497but what if I prefer using Q and E to strafe and bind my abilities to A and D?
>want to roll female toon for AGP gooning with nonnies>also want to roll male toon to romance my future wife who will be from Toronto
>>586221025sweating is really comfy when you have the AC vent right under your desk so when your balls get sweaty you can open your robe and let the cold air deflect off the bottom of the desk straight onto your swassy scrundle
>>586221225no, i just bind them to different slotsbut you can easily find such things..>>586221240you have my permission
>>586221143So all priests get binding heal but holy can spend a talent point on making their flash heal a worse binding heal? What?
>>586221143>teaches rank 1 at level 25, when spells are always learned at an even number>new talent makes flash heal act like bindingI think blizz just hasn't removed it from the trainer yet. There is no reason they'd add that flash heal talent otherwise.
>>586221275Faggot
>put binding heal on your bar>don't need to waste a talent point on their new talent>blizzard finds out you're not using their new nifty talent and the pink haired cat lady who is the class lead gets triggered>binding heal removed>no you won't get your gold back
>>586221143>want to pull off a sick save on yourself by deathing the sheep/sleep/gouge/etc? well fuck you!This balance team just has 0 thought when it comes to PvP huh?
Yes yes your weak class got nerfed unfairly by blizzard and you should reroll to mage or warlock or priest BUT DONT reroll to my class.
>>586221345back the heck off dude? lets see you balance a whole game
>>586211289Twisting every attack will be better than stackingYou get 8 seals every 4 attacks (after the first attack assuming you aren't able to pre-pull with 3 stored seals) when twisting as opposed to 7 when stackingIt gives twisting the edge overall but non-twisters can still play in dad guilds fine
>>586221225#showtooltip/cast [mod:shift] Earth Shock; Flame ShockOr just bind them to their own hotbar slot.
>>586221410they were probably thinking>shit, this is gonna make shadow even more busted in pvp let's nerf it
the fuck did they do to druid this time
Once and for all niggers, should I roll hunter or paladin
>>586221614depends, do you like hunter or paladin more
>>586221614paladinyou dont seem worthy of being a hunter
I bet you miss him now huh?
no fap till 60
>>586221161>trusting agp troon>ever
>>586221410Is it even possible to do that anymore without spell batching? Seems like it would be hard to time so you aren't just hitting yourself for 30% then eating a full cc
so glad druids got nerfed. more pigs and cats in shadowglen for me
>>586221563Raped and gaped resto and feral
>>586221669Hunter it is
>>586221734I'm leveling a warrior on pvp so I'm fapping on cooldown to 60
>Druids don't counter locks anymore>Wotf doesn't have a duration Alliance warlock is back on the menu boys!
>>586221714>sinks and flushes worlo>sinks riot mmo before it's even out
>>586220873Fuck off sweatlord
>>586219231You will see them obviously but how often will their fear be a problem to you? Getting feared by the priest shouldn't be common at all and if you get feared by a warlock you can dispel it with your felhunter. Also even if you did have WotF a good warlock will just fear you right away anyway especially since it on the gcd. WotF is just overrated. Bring the 5 second immunity back
Why the fuck are all new gear crafts BoP though? I want to level same armor class as my friend, so now we are competing on nodes just to craft gear wtf. If one of us could go another profession then we could both help each other with no competition. I could craft the gear, he could make pots. But no, now we are sharing every tap of mining nodes. Thanks blizzard
>last minute gigantic changesconcerning...
>"just play what you want, the balance is going to keep changing! :)">of the two classes I want, both are bottom tier. One hasn't been balance patched once, and the other just keeps getting worse every time they touch itKinda regretting my preorder here. Is it too late to refund?
>>586222338Because then what's the point of early professions if you just buy the shit from the AH you brainlet?
>>586222417>last minute gigantic changes>Rogues still not changed
Magatha grimtotem should be a raid boss in forever and its wierd she never was in vanilla.
>>586222417better now than a week after release
>>586222457Making money?
>>586221275jeet
>>586221907im gonna save one big load for when i hit 60
>>586222163Not every class has a stun yet you never see people make this same argument for human.
>>586222417Just balance changes.I would be concerned if they briefly removed content, or started pushing dates up.
>>586218279Power World: Shield is still just not good enough to hold up a spec. Penance (the real reason why you would go into the spec) got nerfed into oblivion because of that fucking streamer tournament. It is now a slightly stronger flash heal on a 12 second cooldown. Power infusion is and always has been a fucking meme. Buffing the magical damage and healing of one (1) player by 20% for 15 seconds every 3 minutes as your fucking capstone ability feels like a joke. It is terrible and always has been and people telling you that it will get you invited to raids are memeing you. For context, the capstone ability of Holy is now Prayer of Mending and the capstone for Shadow is Shadowform.
Do I unveil my secret for you guys to get easy Legacy points?
>>586222474maybe she will be
>>586222163just play orc dawg you dont need to make up these silly scenarios
>>586222426>OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE! THIS AI SLOP SIGHT SAYS MY CLASS IS DOING LESS DAMAGERINO! THEY WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER CHANGE THE NUMBERS ON THESE SPELLS IT'S SO FLIPPIN OVER!
>>586221563Split Feral tree and made it harder to double dip Cat/Bear.Got rid of Berserk and got rid of its 3 minute burst phase. Bear got hit especially hard since Berserk mostly equalized single target output with Cat.-0.5 GCD was taken out, but instead of being encouraged to blanket Rejuv and idle, you've gotta use Regrowth smarter before you 5SR.Wild Growth instant cast was turned to a 3.0/2.5sec cast. Might benefit 100% from Spell Power now, which might be fucking funny.
>>586222724go ahead
>>586222562forever is about solo progression not buying everything off the AH forever brainlet
>>586222426You get a free first time unconditional refund.
>>586222562How much are you expecting to make crafting prof level 30 items kek
Warrior bros... We're next....
>warlock is unplayable on alliance pvp for years"LOL WHY WOULD YOU PLAY WARLOCK ON ALLIANCE ITS YOUR OWN FAULT">Alliance now gets good racials"WTF BRO THIS AINT FAIR PVP SHOULD BE BALANCED RACIALS SHOULDN'T BE THAT STRONG REEEE"
>>586222417show her hairy pussy and ass
>>586222724Make an ai slop video about it like everyone else dumbass.
>pallys get a new capstone>warlocks still have incinerate
>>586222715disc is not for retards or selfish tranniesit's ok you have holy
>>586222724is it reaching Sergeant in PvP, because it's not limited to 1 character, or 1 time?
>>586222724>do the things on the achievements that give legacy pointswoah such a secret strat
>>586222914I’ve refunded twice, first $60 when the beta ended and second $30 when I had to work and couldn’t get into Horde.
>>586222417Paladin was never releasing in its final beta iteration. Changes were expected. But not sure why they fucked with druid so much.
>>586222827>go herd and mining>autistically gather ore and cloth>get to level 25(1 legacy point)>drop mining>get engi up to 150(2 points)>drop engi>go blacksmith 150(3 points)>drop BS>Tailor 150....you get the idea. Easy 8 legacy points
>>586222819I don't know why they seem to want to head in the retail direction with Druid of homogenizing the specs. The cool thing about Druid is being a jack of all trades. I hate retail Druid where if you're a cat, you're only a cat and can't do anything else well. Removing Heart of the Wild from Feral and putting it in Resto was a big mistake. They just don't get it.
>>586223117legacy cheevos are account wide. you can't cheese by doing the same one on multiple characters.
>>586222671WotF is much better for a rogue than a warlock for example.
do channeled spells count as instant spells for talent purposes?
>>586223259Hybrids had it good enough for 20+ years, stop whining.
>>586223471nyoh
>>586222984https://files.catbox.moe/c5lpgz.png>>586222713they completely reworked two talent trees and fucked druids up the ass
>>586223246Idk I'd rather level instead
>>586223070Retards are still complaining about X class not being changed today when it's obvious they did half of them today and the other half will probably come tomorrow.
>>586223109The only retards here are the dipshits trying to make Discipline work in its current state when literally anything it tries to do, Holy and Shadow can do better.Also, you aren't making some grand sacrifice by taking a talent that will let one mage or warlock do a little more damage. You're just in a useless spec whose shining moment of glory is helping a parser parse a little bit better.
>>586223259>Heart of the Wildthis seems like such a minor thing to PMS over esp cause of all the upgrades druid just got
>>586223584raped rogue copium
>>586223246Why not make alts and level the professions on those instead of wasting all those materials?
>>586223574oh my
>mages got completely dumpstered on in the tournament>still a bunch of people whining about how OP they are with their "blink mobility" lol
>>586223259I've never played druid in classic, why does HotW being in the top row of resto instead of near the bottom of feral matter?
>>586223685they should have just added Pain Suppression instead. this way nobody would be fucking agonizing constantly over it and then disc can get some proper buffs elsewhere to make them good at healing/shielding like they ought to be
how are we holding up ele bros?
>>586223775>level 30 tournament
>>586223775>He's falling for the level 30 duel tournament
>blizzard found a way to make everybody madBravo
>>586219774the gall you have to call anyone a troon
>>586223875I hate when people call their characters 'toons'
I sort of want divine aegis on disciple to work, sounds like a fun spec.
>>586223838>>586223857The Schrodinger's tournament, if it supports my argument for why a certain class isnt well balanced then it's a good source, if it doesn't then it's >level 30
>>586223870imagine being mad over a game that hasn't even come out yet kek
>>586223775You are a genuine retard.
>>586223870Is any class or spec happy?
>>586223690>>586223820Because it just shows their design philosophy. They're moving Furor to Feral and Heart of the Wild to Resto, when Heart of the Wild was a great "Oh, I can get this in Feral as a Resto Druid", and Furor was a, "Oh I can get this in Resto as a Feral Druid". The specs should be designed to encourage hybridization as much as possible and cool builds that go between trees, instead of, "I just put all my points in the cat talents in feral if I am a cat druid"
>>586223870The only people that are seething are (Resto)Druids mad they're being brought down to the same level as everyone else and Assfand because they removed seal twisting.
>>586223246You will not autistically gather enough ore to level both engi and bs unless you spend literally days doing so. Meanwhile I'll be level 60 stealing your nodes.
>>586223836Doing alright, still deciding if I should roll Warlock or Priest for my main. Paladin is tempting because I've never really played one.
>>586214681Unironically, I was masturbating less with wow forever beta. only 1–2 times a week.
>>586224008I'm pretty happy with my class but I won't name it because I don't want them to detect any fun happening and nerf it.
>>586224008Warriors seemed to have stopped complaining.
>>586223826Pain Suppression would at least be a decent capstone, but it still wouldn't fix the tree. Power Word: Shield still isn't strong enough to carry the spec. Penance has still been reduced to a slightly stronger flash heal on a 12 second cooldown.
why are people sweating over class balance when it will all be good before raids come out
>>586224008warriors
>>586223685We should just admit that Shaman is the only decent healer left. But then you’re stuck playing a fucking drawf.
>>586223973>retoiletcycle.jpg>youarehereLet me guess, just 2 more weeks right?
>>586224008The only hunters bitching about auto shot clipping are autists and warriors are eating as good as they possibly could be when the assignment was always supposed to be "how do we gently clip their testicles off as gently as possible". I think warlocks are rather pleased as well.
Who is the most powerful PvP healer now that Resto Druid has been taken into the woods and shot?
>>586222953they will buff arms
>>586223246legacy points are fucking worthless stop going after them christ
>>586224158>it will all be good by the raids come outWhat makes you think this?
>>586223246you mine copper while i mine thorium. its that simple
>>586223960>Surely one of the most oppressive wpvp classes at level 60 in Classic will be complete dogshit in wpvp despite getting even more tools.>>586224195Pally
>>586224180i are gibbering i have no idea what you mean. take your meds
>>586224008As long as they don't completely dumpster warrior after xaryu was chainpulling mobs in prot, I'll be happy. Dont nerf that until I'm 60, thanks.
>>586224178No. Holy is a good healing spec. It's just Discipline that's bricked.
>>586223826Instead of pain suppression, I'd rather have some kind of mega shield. Like maybe a shield that can absorb like 5k damage but only lasts 5 seconds or something with a moderate cooldown
>>586224195Its still resto DruidIf the only abilities they had were rejuv regrowth and travel form they would still be the best
>>586224041>Meanwhile I'll be level 60 stealing your nodes.没问题,兄弟
I wanted to take mining/blacksmithing for my main but then I realized how grindy leveling blacksmithing is.Guess I will stick with mining/eng.
>>586224260>only level 60 matters>but also the journey is the focus
>>586223973Rogues are pretty justified in being upset to be fair.
>>586224303Power word: barrier maybe?
>>586223246>i will be level 20 crafting 60 shirts while you are level 40okay sounds good keep me posted
>>586224041meanwhile ill be investing in the ah and crafting flasks for thousands of gold in about an hour
>>586224079Tbh I don't know why I have a porn addiction and a nicotine addiction. I went to a family vacation for a week during the beta. Was in an airbnb with like 20 other people, constantly doing shit, didnt even think about smoking/vaping and masturbating for the entire time. Didn't feel an itch. Didn't get moody. Didn't feel like I needed to do them. Get home though? Right back to chain smoking and masturbating twice a day. Is it just boredom and ease of access?
>>586224158because data mining is the devilwithout it, we might have had a good thread like last night
>>586223574hot, thanks
>>586224231they can just put a %more damage or %more healing buff on the bad classes
make a new thread
>>586224501nou
>>586224421>Is it just boredomyes
>>586224291holy is propped up by PoM being OP on paper. idk about you but I don't like most of the power of the spec being on a bouncing heal. Can't it bounce to pets too? What a headache.
>>586224421>I went to a family vacation for a week during the beta. Was in an airbnb with like 20 other peopleare there any white people in this general
>>586224008demo warlocks stay winningcan't wait for satyr warlocks
>>586224421>I went to a family vacation for a week during the betaGbay? You post here?
>>586224192>I think warlocks are rather pleased as well.The destro tree is kind of a mess. Incinerate as a capstone is a joke and you still have to keep up Corruption and Agony which feels really bad.
>>586224575mepriest main btw
>>586224575I just had a sandwich of white bread, butter and kerrygold dubliner cheese
is demo lock fun if I don't care for sacking my pet?
>>586224260I am wondering this, actually. Is a Holy/Prot Pally in PvP going to be the best PvP healer? It seems like it would be nigh unkillable.
>>586224158Because Blizzard has a loooooong history of not buffing the bad classes enough at the start of an xpac or season.
>>586212179servers are all fucked up for meI tried creating charactes in the RP realm, they are all going to RP-PVP
I know Prot is solidly better now but did Ret look like it's better now than before?
>>586224728demo warlock doesn't sac their pet until they get the capstonelevel with succubus and brand
>>586224765seems to be working fine to me
>>586224728As someone who mained Demo lock all his life, yes, the only pet you'll ever need and use is your Felhunter.
>>586224807Is suc in world pvp pretty good?
GIVE WARLOCKS GREEN FIRE
>>586224575there's a few of us
is shadow priest cucked because of the increased threat gen on mind blast? Is the threat reduction talent necessary?
>>586224487Some class issues are beyond just numerical.
>>586224789I'd say so. there's a bit of an awkward talent point left hanging just before you can grab champion of the light but other than that its pretty solid. The change to put divine intellect in the first line of prot seems an odd choice to me when they could have put divine strength there instead but at least having it there means you aren't having to spend 5 points for 10% armor before you can get precision. Reverence being higher in the holy tree is nice too.
>>586224897Only if you're going to seduce and soulfire like a wannabe Drakedog.
>>586225016maybe in pvppve is just numbers
>>586224915Just make warlocks tanks at this point, who cares.
>>586224728But you can sac a pet and summon a different one now with the demo capstone talent
>>586224575>NOOOOO WHITE PEOPLE CANT HAVE BIG FAMILIES AND KIDS NO NO NOOOOOOO it was a 2,500 a night airbnb in a 40 bedroom mansion. The only one larping about being white here is you.
>>586224352Blacksmithing will 100% have BoP pre-bis weapons.>>586224731Holy and Ret or Prot will both be good but Prot with Templar's Bulwark will be based. Paladin gets a boost in PvP just by having auras and plate. You can have 0 pushback with Spiritual Focus and Concentration aura too.
>>586224897>>586225129I forgot about the new sac thing where you get that buff. Saccing your Succ and using Felhunter would be cool for extra damage. If anything I'd just sac the VW and run around with my felhunter out.
>>586224795>>586224807>>586225236is there a dotless playstyle with demo? I plan on being gnome cause I love gnomes, but dots suck with eureka. Even though affliction is super strong, it's super boring.
>>586225223Pretty sure they'll be able to tank with 30% reduction from soul link and 10% more from destro talents. The question is how well they'd be able to keep threat.
>balance patch>still no rogue talent reworkreeeeeeee
>>586225173ele is dogshit due to lavaburst
Dwarf shaman looking for a nelf warrior to level with.
>>586225412I've never tried it, I always ran Demo/Affliction. Not taking damage and spamming shadowbolts because your nightfall keeps proccing was fun.
>>586225412I guess you could sac imp for 15% bonus shadow damage, summon succ for 10% more bonus shadow damage, then spam shadowbolts.
balance changes after people already reserved name is fucking CRIMINAL and i am expecting more before release
Dwarf shamans got nothing unique while undead paladins got a unique mount, new class quests, hundreds of paladin related quests added around the world and so on.
>>586225571you're right, it sucks that no classes will ever be changed ever again
;-D
>>586225335Yeah, I'm just looking at Holy/Prot Pally right now.https://wowforevertalents.com/paladin/?t=f50321015022101251-55022102003Something like this for PvP seems like it would be pretty insane. Flat 9% damage reduction, huge chance to block, Templar's Bulwark, etc.
>>586225412The capstone relies on immolate being maintained so no.
>>586225634Wait for fucking releaseWait for the classes to get to 60Changing like this is fucking retarded and only piss people off
>>586225571Where did this idea come from that they would never change anything again because people reserved names ??They will keep changing shit every other day and you will say Thank You
>>586206329Alliance racials are juiced as fuck and you're still crying? Pathetic bitch
>>586225715Based on sims you also have to keep up Corruption and Agony with a full destro build, pretty stupid. Not even sure how Blizzard could fix this.
>>586225742Why don't YOU wait for fucking release, wait for the classes to get to 60 and THEN you can bitch
>>586225619Hero class
>>586225412do a dank searing pain/soulfire specbut seriously you can't expect to play lock without dotsjust dont worry about that shit nigga it's fine
>>586225742sorry you were born with autism
>code begins getting worked on in 2024>clearly development or at least thoughts on Forever started before this>during the beta we get sweeping class changes that were completely new IDs that couldn't have been created before the beta feedback (most of warrior and druid changes during the beta for example, weren't planned before beta)>huge class changes 5 days before launchThis launch is going to be a disaster. How have they not figured it out after years and SoD?
we are at page 10
post your rare addons that no one is really using or heard of
>paying for a name only to find it stuck on now a dead class before releaseAHAHAHSHAHAHAHA
you have 5 minutes to bake before i do it myself with slop and turn it into a horny degen thread
>>586225895Ya there'll be pretty big balance swings first month I say. If this bothers you wait 1-2 months then start playing.
>>586225921we're sinking with the ship bro, rip
>>586225973you do know you can delete the character and remake, right?
>>586225951https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/warcraft-3-ui-forever-editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agffQHWyWh8
>Everyone excited that the game won't be solved for the first time in a long time>Everyone then starts crying about changes despite seeing no level 60 gear yetSuch a low IQ community.
>>586226119>delete>get faction locked
>>586226162b.. but my sims..
>>586226170just make a 2nd character based retardbro?
its over dont even bake another threadwhats the point
>>586226162You don't need to be level 60 to know that a 3 second cast time AOE HOT that heals for dirt is a crappy capstone talent.
i dont even want to play anymore desu lol
>>586226257>>586226257>>586226257>>586226257>>586226257bread
>>586226170are you rly this dumb..?
nerfing both feral and resto druid so randomly is funkyTruly Claude based patches
>>586226253>NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I MUST BE ABLE TO MACHINE GUN WILD GROWTH AND OUTSNIPE ALL THE OTHER HEALERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!111111Get fucked Druidcuck
>>586221563Feral and Resto got their balls crushed with a hammer
>>586211992what's wrong with being a nazi?
