Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!/sthg/ #9695 - Dead Rose Edition==NEWS==>Discord server for some reasonhttps://x.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/2107231633082294555>SONIC PICO PARK on 12 November 2026https://picoparkgame.com/spp/>Sonic the Hedgehog: Memories and Beyond on 12 November 2026https://youtu.be/gg33XSAtdZM>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversaryhttps://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 on 19 March 2027https://x.com/SonicMovie>Netflix animated series for preschoolers with attitude in productionhttps://variety.com/2026/film/news/crazy-taxi-movie-netflix-sega-sonic-stranger-than-heaven-1236861148/==COMICS==Sonic the Hedgehog X Godzilla #4 - 11 November 2026Sonic and the Blade of Courage #18 - November 2026Sonic the Hedgehog #92 - 9 December 2026==OTHER==>Linkshttps://rentry.org/sthglinks>SAGEhttps://sagexpo.org/>SHChttps://shc.zone/>#10000 Projecthttps://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4ruPrevious Zone: >>586014415
POST YFW YOU ARE NOT A SONAMYBESTIE
cnc
Chris lied Amy diedKrack was rightJesus cries
https://x.com/MisterCrits/status/2075577805027582296What did he mean by this?
*headpats your OC*
>>586058217Lying bitch haha
Douge
>>586058217Love for Sonic (as a brother)
Do you have a favorite badnik /sthg/?
How long until Amy gets an ugly side shave?
>>586058327Egg Hammer
>>586058327
>>586058324If they want Sonic to have a sibling so bad, I would rather they make his siblings actually cannon rather than shoehorn Amy into one
>>586057841
>>586057653I'm not giving up
>>586058640I forgot about how much this hurts
>>586000397The more I think about it, the more I realize how shipper brained Ian was when it came to her betrayal. Like Sally was being a bitch here for no reason but Ian wrote the storyline in a way that would vindicate Sally’s accusation rather than her and the others actually fucking up over mistrusting Fiona to the point of driving her away.
As someone who was once stupid enough to complain about psycho stalker Amy, I can only apologise.This is partly my fault.I didn't think they would straight up lobotomise her.
>>586058561I wish I could make them all siblings, but I don't think that's feasible with the family tree I'm makingSonia and Manic being cousins wouldn't be that bad of an idea, would it?
>>586058946Now you see
Have you accepted Shadamy in your hearts yet?
>>586058960To be fair we never thought we'd be at a point in society where an affectionate clingy girl became a desired rarity among man
Oh yeah! Sally time
>>586059005>Sonia and Manic being cousins wouldn't be that bad of an idea, would it?That depends. Who's Sonic's mother in your family tree and how is she related to Manic's and Sonia's mother? Since if you go with sister than Sonic would still be royalty.
>>586058380
>>586059105yes. since 2008
>>586059005Sonia and Manic being Sonic's cousins doesn't fix the issue that Sonic can't have a biological family at all. You're breaking a known mandate by including them either way.
Foxlet gameplayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuhStotivVM
>>586058734This is the best, and saddest Sonic comic ever made.
>>586058734S-Sonic Movie 4 will save us....
Thoughts on Tangle?
>>586059324I don't know why but I always found her classic Archie look with the exclusive Bomber jacket over nothing dirtier than just having her be outright nude like Dic did.
>>586059652saved
Peak
>>586059652filtered
>Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>586059659fucking rapemeat made for ytaumatizing.
>>586058186Nobody cares dogfucker
The movies dictate this franchise
>>586059652
>>586059963*traumatizing sorry i was typing with one hand. anyone got some more good tangles?
>>586058310Cute N Canon!
>>586059341current framework is>Paulie/Brenda (parents)>Charles (uncle, Paulie's brother)>Tania (sister)first thought was to make Aleena a distant relative of Brenda, making her, Sonic, and Tania technically royalty but one of those situations where a LOT has to go wrong to put them in the running for succession>>586059449yes, because it's fanon, I'm not trying to push a canon rewrite
I will gen some Cuckmys later, any ideas?
>>586059878That's so cool! Nice work, anon.
Follow me inside
>>586060291OUTSIDE
>>586060285thx
>>586060225Robotnik doing Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind on Amy.
>>586060340Through the stratosphere
>>586060509the moon is shining for youuu
>>586059890Shadow's wife
>>586060225Hi, duofag, long time, no see.
>>586059449>doesn't fix the issue that Sonic can't have a biological family at allI don't think Sonic having a biological family would break Sonic's character at all but it would ruin his ethereal aura that's been cultivated since the late 90s. As nothing makes a character less out there than having him call his mother between adventures. >>586060153You could always say that Brenda was actually Aleena under a false identity however that route would still force a bunch of Royal geopoliticial shit in the background
>>586059659She's ok, though I'd like to see her interact more with the game characters. I hate that she and Whisper are pretty much joined at the hip.
Removing ages should have been your first red flag btw
>>586060729At least the writers admit that they will fucking cheat with each other if they ever get separated kek
>>586060623Knows that I adore you!
>>586060752Explain
>>586060651Hi, I heard Sonamy wasn't canon anymore
>>586060752Not really. Ages in Japanese media and their society in general, really are basically an inside joke, they never make sense and are not meant to.
>>586060834suddenly all of thatSADNESSwill just slip away
>>586060880I lost buckets to this shadally pic
>>586060880>i heardYou've been here all day.
>>586060843What's there to explain? It's a stupid change that removed information about the characters and has been largely speculated to have come from the west to allow you fags to have a cope when you jerk off to the 12 year old cartoon girl>>586060926It was just a neat little detail that made the world feel more alive. You celebrated things being removed from Sonic Channel, you set the precedent for what's happening with Amy now
>>586060880So you popped in to rub it in.Good, the bestiefags fucking deserve it.Gen Sonic humping Surge while Amy is slowly strangling from a botched hanging on the background. The stupid bitch can't even kill herself right, lol
>>586060880Tranny artstyle
>>586060880fuck... you're right... now amy can join the shadow sex cult...
>>586061007post it
>>586060752Removing the ages gave SOA the pretext to strip Amy of her girly passion and hobbies just because "she's growing up and needs to mature"
I'm surprised it took people this long to realize that removing ages was not a visionary decision and diluted the intent of the characters
>>586061147That's a great idea>>586061174Shadamy seems more plausible ngl, I can see Moviemy falling in love with Moviedow
Fuck soa
I don't care about Amy Rose.
ah yes, shitdow
>>586060701>You could always say that Brenda was actually Aleena under a false identity however that route would still force a bunch of Royal geopoliticial shit in the backgroundgeopolitics is an aspect I want to touch on, so it's welcome but I don't want Sonic to have any strong social obligations that go beyond general helping the family in a moment of crisiskeeping things pocketed to their own bubbles at the moment is much more manageable since a lot of this worldbuilding is still fairly liquid
Mario won.
>>586061114>It was just a neat little detail that made the world feel more alive.I could agree with that, though I would also have appreciated if they increased them every now and then. It gets weird when we have "lore" and canonical birthdays but these little fuckers are still 14 years old
>>586058217everyone who believed him then is an idiotit's obvious he was lying and i was saying that thenif he's so fucking eager to not let this slide and yet it slipped, there's no way it was made w/o his approval
>>586060880Are you also hyoumaru?
>>586047996Probably Blackwood and maybe Dapple since at least they (or maybe just Blackwood for the most part) were well received. Belle though? Probably never lol
Sonic loves dryhumping Surge in public and making her blush
>>586061618No, but I appreciate it when people think I'm pretending to be a shitty artist on purpose.
What do we do if Shadamy becomes a thing
>>586058640>>586058734That settles it, I'm drinking tonight.
SONIC GO TO THE BATHROOM!
>>586061805Shadamyfag would win
I told you, it's all Deus SEx now. Post schizo theories.
Shadamyfags who actually want it to be canon are defending the destruction of Amy because they think it makes their ship more likely. You're actually just killing her concept.
>>586061959Fiona would’ve turned back to good if the Fonz saved her.
>>586060752If they still had ages people wouldn't dare touch ships like knuxouge where it's an adult and a minor.
>>586061763Are you one of the 40 people who yells about how whoteboard doesn't have anything to do with this thread?>"But it's the truth!"Irrelevant, are you?
>>586061805Congratulate them? I don't ship Sonamy
>>586060475didn't watch, have this instead ok
>>586060926>Ages in Japanese media really are basically an inside jokeProvide evidence or be quiet because it sounds like you're defending SOA's takeover
So they're destroying Sonamy for Shadamy? Seems petty to me. Why not just give the ship a proper ending if that's the case?
>>586060752I think I see what you mean. Same with the push for calling Shadow and Maria “siblings”, I’m not even a shipper but you can easily see how prudish people are about labels that don’t apply (they’re literally different species with no biological connection), it’s the same shit I see with passive aggressive woke fans that don’t want to admit they just hate a ship.
>>586062231Sonamy is worse but no one really cared besides attacking ships unless it was sontails tier
I still prefer the hand drawings.
>>586062251No, there are at least two other anons who are very active and believe that the whiteboards are a fraud.
>>586062080Why would Shadamyfags think this is a good thing? If Amy isn’t allowed to express a crush on Sonic what makes them think this wouldn’t apply to any other male character? She’s now the group mom, all they’ll get is nagging.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6clV2lE8R4> Uploaded 7 days agoProphetic
>>586060926They make sense relative to themselves but are not literal
>>586062609Thank you for being straightforward and honest, unlike some people.
>>586062575KEK
Shadamy is just aestheticslop
These real violence jokes are too intense for me>>586062575
>>586062448No, I think SOA are retarded.What I'm referring to is the concepts of how Ash Ketchum is 10 years old forever despite entering multiple tournaments and travelling the world, or how YuGiOh's Pegasus is a seasoned explorer, engaged but loses the love of his life and then invents a god-infused card game all at the grand age of 24, or how big booby anime girls are usually 15 years old and are considered hags by 19.Don't worry about it.
>>586061713>Belle gets cucked for being the next IDW character>Blackwood steals her slotfucking damn
>>586062575You should continue drawing if you enjoy it.
>>586063016Fuck off back to preddit or whatever normalnigger place you came from
If I may:
>>586061713Is Dapple even worth adding, her design is plain as possible on purpose
>>586063154No.Amy must die alone.Her fans will regret their 33 years of obnoxiousness
>>586063079Yeah I should, I enjoyed it.
Blackwood's design makes my pussy wet despite the character being shit so I finally understand how Surgefags operate. It's still not actually good though.
>>586063325What's stopping you?
Vengeance
>>586063213That’s why I’m second guessing but desu the maid gimmick might be enough to bring her in
>>586063154You are reawakening my original ship... *sniffle*
>>586063154My biggest complaint about it is that their colors don't really match.
>>586063079Not duo, but violenceslop inspires me more than goonslop so i really appreaciate his old stuff. I'd like to make something like this.
I want to remind you all that Katie works on the movies and is Fowler's characterization consultant
Imagine getting mad at jp purists
>>586063613Takashi iizuka does that. Not Katie
>>586063483NTA but this is one of the three times Tails flew in Sonic X.
>>586063068I’d say Lanolin was first then Surge. Belle debut before these guys with focus yet they got in. Now the Diamond Cutters and Surge have gotten alternate skins and Kit’s just been added, that’s enough of a sign to me desu. Ironic because she was essentially made by a toymaker Eggman.
>>586063647There her credit role. Iizuka is the character supervisor but Katie is the consultant. Iizuka doesn't do anything but veto things like the ME activating super
PATRICK STEWART IS DEAD
>>586057841/sthg/ stop this madness
>>586060967And you'll see what I mean
>>586063785ok
>>586063793What an ugly art style ew
I heard about the Amy thing. My Shitter feed is full of Japanese accounts complaining about the Amy bio change on Sonic Channel. That’s weird because I don’t even follow these people, kek. They even pissed Japan off enough for them to start voicing their concerns. I guess Sega is doing this because Movie Amy is going to be some kind of girlboss or some shit.
>>586063785Sonic.
>>586063804if you just follow me in myDREEEEEEEAMS
Wrath of Nazo just released the full storyboard.
>>586063793I can't believe there's real human beings who thought Sumire ever stood a chance. A literal OC created by someone other than the author who's backstory is left.our of the manga vs the first girl he introduced crushing on the hero. Self inserters are fucking blind
>>586063785Wtf I was watching him yesterday
>>586063920I’m not surprised, most of the JP shit actually keeps Amy’s attraction so they’re getting scared about SoA potentially tainting the JP side now
>>586063446Time mostly but also probably the fact that I'm not as passionate about art as other people are.>>586063554Thank you anon. Comments like these me want to draw again honestly.
>>586063785>Professor X is deadPeace is over.
>>586063154>>586063540Why do people even ship tailamy
>>586064048This is how Silver talks to shota boys before he sucks their jelly bean cocks until they cum for the first time
>>586063785Nnnnooooooooo! I hate this year! First Tim Curry, now Captain Jean Luc Picard of the USS Enterprise!
>>586063920Theyre doing it because sega has bent the knee to hand rubbing hook nosed coin clipping kikes.
>>586063785I'm unsurprised and not really that saddened.
>>586063793>Sarada currently btfoing all those who underestimate herAmy will do the same i just know it...
>>586064230Self inserting + same idea as Mina. "He matured into Sonic 2"
>>586063793> three and a half amy threads in a row
>>586063540Disagree
>>586064408He was 86 and lived a very fulfilling life, there isn't much to be sad about
>>586063784Source?
>>586064230Tailsfags want what Sonic has for Tails.
>>586064446It's just so boring as a dynamic, even shadamy as bad as it is has somethign to it
>>586064124She's canon tho it doesn't matter if she was filler at first
>>586064024>corny guitar solo
>>586064124I haven’t watched or read this shit in a while but wasn’t she an anime original? The fact that she even made it to the manga is something. I don’t think the other anime original characters even appeared like her
>>586064494Amy's bright pink doesn't really go well with Tails' bright yellow. Cream for instance, has a more complimentary color to him.
>>586064191>Comments like these make me want to draw again honestly.You should, even if you think you won't get any better, but who knows if you find a way to add a little more appeal.
>>586064593>She's canon tho it doesn't matter if she was filler at firstIt strongly matters because if you read just the manga she appears without explanation. Treating her as the love intrest would have broken the throughline set up at the very beginning. Sarada blushing when Boruto gets in her face. It was already too late for her.
>>586063785Please not Henry Winkler this year.
>>586064572This has been a crappy week and we're barely in Thursday.
>>586064746>Tails' bright yellow*-orange.
>>586064730Light novel, then anime, then manga. >>586064593It definitely matters that she's a character kishimoto didn't create. If you know anything about japanese writers that basically killed her shot from the beginning.
>>586064767Oops thanks for correcting me. Yes absolutely, I'll see what kind of quirk I can add to it to make it fun and different from the others.
>>586065016yellow-orange if you want to be all encompassing.
>>586063785F
>>586064746cute
We lost too many legends this year.
>>586064446>Sonic 2
Emz weirdly silent about the Amy changes unless that vague tweet from a few hours ago is her running defense for SoA despite being the "Amy Rose Ambassador".
>>586065338Who the fuck named her anyone's ambasaddor?
>>586064929it's been a rollercoaster, great news like the new recomp and then we're hit with the profile changeswe can't seem to breathe easy for long
>>586065079I mean, i say appeal because i know that technical improvement in drawing is a pain in the ass and not as important as we think. So the alterative is to make the style a bit more... sexy to look, at i guess.
I am literally Amy Rose, she's always been my favorite character and I'm happy she grew up with me. She's mature just like me now. I, Amy, should have sex with Shadow.
>>586065338That’s why I keep saying she’s controlled opposition. She doesn’t want Amy to love Sonic. She’s a puppet for the lore team
Shadamyfags and Sonadowfags will defend this
>>586065646Yes I will.
>>586065459SoA fangirls
Amy's #1 lesbian fan is NOT okay.
I spent years arguing that ages being removed would be used to imply that the characters are adults and an excuse to remove major traits
Your guys misery is hilarious. Why do you still hang on to this franchise emotionally?
>>586064439Chpter 38 is out she got her ass beat
>>586065860
What is Japanese Xitter about the Amy bio change?
>>586064746Idk I think I like the color scheme with Amy more than with Cream. It pops more
>>586065860Your disposition is somehow even more hilariously depressing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHGstlao2Vw>>586066049Devastation and fear
What do you expect after 9 years of a tumblr comic being the center of Sonic
>>586066431I thought it was 6 years of jimbo curry movies
>>586066267Typo sorry. I meant what are they saying.
>>586066112Well it's up to personal tastes. Agree to disagree.
>>586065908>Boruto saves her life last minute after being told to follow his heartI WIN I FUCKING WIN AMY NEXT PLEASE GOD
>:(>>586066561Lucky I reposted some of thesehttps://x.com/exploooooosion/status/2115768454502645994https://x.com/aoshibazakura95/status/2115775478749667792https://x.com/MOTITAmotimoti3/status/2115828092606517589
I'm gonna miss Sonamy.
>>585977624gonna need a qrd/tldr/@grok
Tails doesn't have good ships
>>586067262That’s because Tails isn’t good
You have girlfriend or wife IRL, don't you?
>>586063068>>586063774Jewel is the most cucked actually
IDW fans will unilaterally be fine with this btw
>>586067262Define good ship.
I wish i could go back in time and kill everyone who likes archie so this wouldn't happen
Sonic is Next Fucking Level
https://youtu.be/zlh4661CQFw>>586066942So the SoA rhetoric has finally spread to Japan huh?
>>586067562Unf Mina is sexy
>>586065270I do!
Didnt Fleetway make Amy gay for that bird
>>586067762Nope, that was the unofficial fagline version.
>>586067262Wrong
>>586067762Fan continuity did, the OG Fleetway just had her travel with her in time and space, Doctor Who style
"Movie 4 is our last hope" Movie 4 by and large the most likely reason for these changes.
Tails asking Kit to hangout and getting rejected
>>586067918>and they were time-travelers
>>586067762Not in the original run, only the fan continuation
Nobody likes this amy change so why are trannys still doing it
Archie Amy is the worst comics Amy. But which is better IDW Amy or Fleetway Amy? I guess you could call IDW Amy "wildly inconsistent"
Uhhh... Sonamybros..
>>586067964And then Kit beating himself up for being alone again
>>586068257this is cnc
>>586067629
>Person last thread defending Archie AmyNo. Amy is not the "I just want him to be happy" girl. She BELIEVES SHE'S SONIC'S GIRLFRIEND YOU DUMB ARCHIEFAG
>>586068164Demoralization.
>>586068423ic amy in archie would have added fuel to the amy hate train of the 2000s
>>586068257Amy is the next character in the movies? Is this supposed to be Shadamy?
Free agent
>>586068505That's true but why go around claiming it was IC. It was blatantly not IC. Anyone who played a game around that time and saw Amy's reaction to another girl being around Sonic would know that it was extremely OOC. >muh EliseSaved Sonic's fucking life. Not the same thing. You'd have to be fucking blind to notice the narrative making sure Amy doesn't know who Elise is talking about when they're talking about boys.
>>586068389
Look at the sonally cuckmy page and justify how it ends in sonamy after everything is over.It won't.
>>586068423They bent Amy out of character I guess to quiet down the ship wars.
>>586068679
Why do people think Shadamy is happening?
>>586068164it's the same dynamic with every IP>normalfags are content >trannies and/or jews petition for a retarded revision>ip holder tweaks product slightly to appease wokeniggers(doesn't work)>normalfags don't notice>ip holder keeps tweaking until wokeniggers are satisfied(never)>eventually IP is ruined but the ip holder won't revert changes because that would be admitting they fucked up and also hurt their ESG score
>>586068920It's just the resident trolls. No one actually believes it will happen.
>>586068423Its a retarded argument because Amy unironically doesn't give a fuck about if Sonic's happy. That's an attempt to whitewash their dynamic to make it easier on people who hate Amy. She wants Sonic to be hers. She will show him business and smash his head with a hammer. She isn't such a pushover that she'll let him trample all over her feelings.
Do you like horny dirtbag and shock value Sonic fanfiction that is also OOC (I'm talking about Super Sonic X Universe), and has fights
>>586068674yes it was elise. and it was enough to justify this.>add fuel to the amy hate train>not use amy>hang on tight to a headcanon so you can use more characters in a more pleasant way. "fixing" the character as they call it
I feel like a superman, i can't get addicted to drinks, drugs, social gatherings (resistence to FOMO), sex, porn... hell not even videogames anymore, maybe the only thing left is internet dipendence.Which sonic character is like this? Sonic?
>>586069103Your dopamine receptors might be shot.
>>586068920Because it already happenedOr will have happenedYou know the drill
What are we in for
imagine being cute but not canon
>>586068892Sad.Here's a ball of fluff to make things better.
it's funny people are calling this a progressive thing when amy's character bio still has the extremely dated sexist joke where her weight is ambiguous
>>586067381Lmfao
>>586069025I would like to believe it's just trolls if this place wasn't so fucking obsessed with shipping and cucking
>>586069501Egg Room ZoneAnon
>>586068995You forgot:>IP either dies or gets put in a coma for a decade only to do the same shit when it comes back and gets put in a coma again
>>586069292lol doomscrolling broke his brain
>>586069415Sonic returns to Green Hill Zone, Shadamy happens, Knuckles discovers Angel Island, and Tails dies.
>>586069602>obsessed with shippingIt's all they've talked about for the last 20 hours just to shut down other discussion. There's no need to take anyone here seriously.
>>586069415It'll be Shadamy movie with Sonic as a side character and Tails & Knuckles in glorified cameo roles.
>>586057963I'm Amy first. Man, dark week for Amy and Star Trek fans.
>>586069781>>586069817that's crazy. where can i watch that crazy movie?
>>586069683
>>586065286The cutest
Name one thing Tails did in the last 20 years that wasnt shitting himself in front of Chaos
Sega did care about appealing to sonic in japan these recent years, i might be coping but is this a chance they might revert it a while after because the reception has been overwhelmingly negative in japan and other east asian fanbases.
>>586059652We need to talk, Anon
Guys I'm sorry but I can confirm they're pulling Amy is descended from Shadow
>>586070043
>>586069867Edgy oc's will always be cool>>586070071Sat down
>>586060225Amy comforting you telling you she sees your pain through bullying her.
>>586070071Beats the fourmen in dreamteam
>>586069292That means i'm finally free from hedonism, though.
>>586069709He's right. SEGA as a whole never cared about Sonic. They literally asked about pulling the plug on Sonic because it wasn't a cash cow enough in one point.
I think they are going to confirm that Amy is Sonic's long lost sister
>>586070134Amy and silver being siblings(?)
>>586070093It’s improbable, but not impossible.
>>586060880I thought it never was.
>>586070236God please this would be so fucking funny
>>585999663Anyone know what this was? The site went to two weeks vacation.
>>586070071Freed himself from the zeti
Hey hot shot, no ship is good.
Spicy Chao dipped in sweet and sour sauce
>>586061362Fuck this whole brand in general. Amy may be the loudest in their fuck ups but other characters all have it bad.
chronz, is it incest?
>>586070106
>>586070451christ
>>586070451Lately I've been surprised being alive is supposedly still allowed in the UK
>>586070451>brown>bannedAs it should.
>>586070451ANON NO THE POLICE ARE KICKING MY DOOR DOWN RIGHT NOW
Worthless “lore team”.
>>586070451
>>586068674This is why Sally can't exist with IC Amy.
>>586070603>lore accurate coloringApproved.
>>586070134I'm surprisingly okay with this.
>>586068920Because every Sonic media teases this ship and then we can laugh at Sonic Movie 5 how Silver is Shadow and Amy's son and Movienic seethes like a cuck.
>>586070071Calling himself wildly inconsistent.
>>586070671I never understood this talking point. Archie and Satam Sonic are both OOC. If Sally is around an IC Amy, then she's probably around an IC Sonic and the issue is dead just like in the reboot. Sally wasn't the type to fight over Sonic in satam either.
>amy may be the loudestSonic SatAM stayed on twitter headlines for its anniversary far longer than amy did today.
>>586070134So Sonic will be "that uncle"
>>586069415Metamy kino
Amy is now my wife, accept it shitnic.
>>586059005Why wouldn't it be feasible? Hedgehogs can have litters of up to ten.>>586061805As if Sega would allow that in our modern day.
>>586070834This. Satam Sally is the opposite of Amy. She shot down Sonic when he tried calling her his gf. If Sally, Sonic, and Amy are all IC at the same time there isn't an issue because Game Sonic is not Sally's Sonic.
>>586070943
>>586068920Every ship is teased now because all the people in Sega are millennial core.
>>586070842She looks like she’s never shot a gun in her life.
>>586070943Based GODdow
enormous bestie melty on /v/
>>586069809It's been like this for several years now, I've been on sthg for a long time and I remember years back this place wasn't always this obsessed with shipping like it is now. There were some but not to this extentI have no idea what happen to this place, why is sthg now so extremely obsessed with shipping?The shipping itself doesn't even feel genuine most of the time, it just comes of as shitposting. I don't mind shipping but this much is just extremely unhealthy
>>586068171Evan and Chaotix special Amy.
God why
To the anon from previous thread, Jet being extra immature and childish is a dubism/Flynnism because some western writers see him as daffy duck. Jet is arrogant and mean but he's also an honorable guy who knows when to be serious.
>>586071152NO I'M NOT SHARTDOWAMY IS MY, MY AS (ME), MY WIFE.
>>586066267>the kitslol I listened to the whole song before noticing that
>>586071371Only a true GODdow would say this... I kneel...
People often say Bunnie is the only satam/archie character who could fit in the main canon but her core concept directly conflicts with an important game character so she's actually the worst freedom fighter to use.
>>586071273>Jet honorable amd serious
>>586071512shadow won't be tall enough to pick her up, even less have a dick because he's an alien black blob
>>586071592I never understood the Bunnie argument either.
>>586070671This is only a problem with OOC Archie Sally. IC SatAM Sally isn't Sonic's girlfriend. She's his opposite. The real character that conflicts with her is Knuckles because he already has the interactions Sally had in satam.
>>586071675nta but Shadow can probably morph one if this is the case...right
>>586071623Yes, he hates cheating and when lives were at stake he switched his mindset immediately in three different games. What are you arguing? He is honorable and can be serious when he needs to be. Play the game.
>Want to talk about how fucking KINO the Nazo sequel was>Everyone is too distracted by Amys changeWhat's fucked is that I can't even get that mad about it cause the change pisses me off to and makes me immensely worried for the next movie.
>>586071758>IC SatAM Sally isn't Sonic's girlfriendNot him but why did they kiss in the finale then? Oh right because series was about to end. Just like how in Sonic X finale Sonic confessed his feelings to Amy until the following series completely ignored that part.
>>586071938You posted this already.
>>586069415>Shadamythe plot is going to be about Shadow wanting to kill Amy if anything
>>586071892
>>586071189I think it’s because they all came from Tumblr/Twitter. This general crosses over with /co/ a lot so it’s not much of a surprise if true.
>>586071592Main canon characters are all created to have a dynamic with either Sonic or with another established characterBunnie is just a typical supporting character and wasn't made to have a dynamic with either Sonic or Tails
DON'T LOOK SO FRIGHTENED THIS IS JUST A PASSING PHASE ONE OF MY BAD DAYS
Wish I may, wish I mightBe someone else tonightSometimes I wish I was never born at allAnd I'll try to save the world'Cause in the end I knowI'm the chosen one
>>586071984From what I've seen of these threads repeating posts is nothing new
>>586072002Movienic taught Moviedow killing is bad
>>586071961It's a mix of that and a weird touch in their dynamic. In the season 3 drafts Sally is still not sold on Sonic as a boyfriend, not even towards the end. The fourth season was definitely meant to confirm they become a couple because Sonic's character development would have brought him to that point. But in the first and second season they are just flirty. The kissing feels weird but you have to remember it's a 90s cartoon. You will see characters who aren't couples kissing in western cartoons all the time, long before they actually decide to be a couple. Like in Pantheon or Get Ed. Sally outright says she doesn't consider herself Sonic's girl. Sonic is supposed to earn her by becoming more grounded as the season's pass.If Sally, Amy, and Sonic are all IC at the same time, Sally wouldn't be confrontational with Amy. Amy might be standoffish with Sally at first just like with Blaze. Sonic and Sally's dynamic from SatAM wouldn't push into the games. Most of her complaints with him would be gone and they wouldn't be childhood friends.
>>586070842Good?
>>586072227Well, what were your favorite parts about the sequel?
>>586072175Her robotics are connected to Eggmab using method Eggman does not use.
Sonamy haters are just insufferable as the fans.
>>586072134So sthg is just mostly women?I can't think of men who are this shipping obsessed unless they're autistic
>>586071961nta but in the show they verbalize it. They aren't boyfriend and girlfriend, Sonic considers that mushy and Sally doesn't like the label. They're "best friends". I can't explain the kissing idk. Fuckbuddies I guess.
>>586070137
>>586072520Sonamybesties sent death threats to kids for liking sonally.
>>586072520it's a natural counter reaction after having to endure sonamyfag spam and potentially being bullied by sonamyfags for liking other ships
https://steamdb.info/app/2951690/charts/You can see how the Kitsunami event affected the Steam playerbaseI don't know how to exactly interpret the data, but it never looked like that before, it never went up and down that quickly before, the rest of the graph looks normal, more comparable to what I see with any random game.I think this means Kitsunami was a success!
If you're doing the whole canonizing westshit characters thing you can't assume the dynamic with a character is goign to stay in the games. Game Tails isn't going to fall in love with Fiona Fox. Game Sonic isn't going to bully Antoine. Game Knuckles isn't going to get bullied by a gorilla.
https://youtu.be/Zd9lXCJv01U>>586072602Yeah, there’s been discussions about this before and I think it’s been somewhat proven that at least half of /sthg/ is female.
>>586071938Talk about it then
>>586058327Orbinaut
Thank you for leaving Sonic, Amy!
>>586072759westshitters fail to consider that the archie/satam versions of sonic are not the same character as sonic.
>>586072750We yearned for the Dwarf Fox
>>586072750the chart seems about the past numbers, but very unstable and non uniform? kit disturbed the peace
>>586072609
Past 2 threads remind me the average satamfag is dogshit at understanding Sonic's character. I'm not even mad, you guys are just bad at it.
>>586072382Well its nice to see the characters well written again, each of them allowed to have a badass moment, fantastic fight scenes to go along with it. Shadow and Knuckles getting to really shine in particular I felt.Its just well written in general, clearly planned out with respect to the lore, and adding to it in ways that makes sense.Honestly I'm probably overhyping it just a little because of how much of a drag IDW has been and how its been dragging down every part of the franchise with it. Its just so nice to see these characters shine and not be reduced to the same bland slop so many other Ips have become. Hell even the way Sonic defeats Nazo matches his character and desire to spread his joy of the world that IDW has taken to its worst extremes.And Super Sonic 3 is just so damn hype. Sonic is at his best when the franchise is wearing the Dragon Ball Z/Shonen inspirations on its sleeve proudly you can't convince me otherwise.
>>586072994>>586073179sonamy is non-canon ooc slop btw. word of the creators. just saying
>>586073248Why does every single person in this fandom just magically ignore that Naoto Oshima said SONIC will never entertain romance? It's ALL OOOC. Why are we still arguing?
>>586072693This thing looked too cool to be in only 1 level
>>586073003Yes!>>586073023I guess on a normal day people open the game, play for a while, do the daily missions, and stop. I imagine I wasn't the only one opening the game and playing several times a day during the event even if all the daily caps were reached
>>586073208>Well its nice to see the characters well written againExcept Sonic
>>586073208>>586072382>>586072227Sonic is completely OOC in Wrath of Nazo except for the last transformation
>>586062640Because Shadow isn't the main character.Also westies are obsessed eith fighting over/being fought over in love rivalries.
>>586073325>>586073248Sonamy is IC you dumb westoid fucks. Oshima said Sonic would choose her if he grew past his Boy's heart.
>>586073094
>>586073208I'm glad you had fun, I thought it was fun to see a project that was reminiscent of the older days of the fandom. Some of the writing and jokes made me cringe a bit, but I think it's more of what the fandom needs nowadays. A creator's vision made manifest that feels wholly genuine.
>>586072520It's just Duofag samefagging meanwhile I'm just talking about Amy alone.
>>586073208Wrath of Nazo uses the insecure overly sarcastic and smarmy personality from Boom. If it was a Boom special that would be really cool. For a sequel to a 2000s sprite animation its annoying and makes me want to skip to the fights.
(You) are not allowed to kill yourself.
>>586073413It would've lessened its impact if it was anything other than a final level enemy.
>>586073920well there go my after dinner plans
>>586073003I seriously hope he's included if Surge ever gets into Crossworlds.
>>586073208This took over 10 years to make? Its just a storyboard.
Sonic is at his best when the franchise is wearing the Doraemon/Kodomo inspirations on its sleeve proudly you can't convince me otherwise.
Japan is awake
>>586074084There's still a lot for you to do in this life.>inb4 i have nothing to do please let me dieThere's still a lot of time to find something to do.
>>586073475>>586073497This is something I've seen around that I don't quite get, Sonic felt perfectly Sonic to me. Was it that he was allowed to show more emotion then general positivity?
Besties are completely fucking delusional. You are all thick headed. WE ALL KNOW ARCHIE AND SATAM ARE OOC YOU RETARDS. WE KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT CANON, BUT YOU RETARDS SEETHE ABOUT IT. Everyone knows already but you bring it up every day you dumb bitches. You fags are seething for two days about SOA this when SOJ doesn't care either. You don't understand Sonic. He never will love Amy. Your ship is OOC and you misunderstood the character and now you're bitching about it like a bunch of monkeys. The creators of Sonic both said he isn't interested in settling down with her and you keep arguing like the dumb bitches you are.
>>586074342>Sonic felt perfectly SonicDo you like Sonic bro? Sonic loses his speed and immediately starts whining?
>>586057841Niggas last night were crashing out and blaming Ian Flynn, Chris Hernandez, and for some reason the Archie Comics over the change to Amy's character.This is from a 2020 reddit AMA with Ivo Gerscovich, Chief Brand Officer for Sonic Studio at SEGA of America. It's been in effect since at least Sonic Boomhttps://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/go02cw/im_ivo_gerscovich_chief_brand_officer_for_sonic/
>>586073920I know. It’s a felony, and I could lose my job.
>>586073920Who is going to stop me
>>586074572Whatever gave these people the impression Amy was ever a damsel-in-distress outside of her debut?
>>586074342I wrote a whole paragraph response but I'll keep it short. Character Trait not in canon = OOC. Sonic wouldn't roll around and become salty and confrontational just because his speed was turned off. That's Boomnic. He'd make due even though he wouldn't like it. The whole gag of "MY SPEED, IT'S MY WHOLE THING" is OOC even if it's funny. He's never been like that. He can know he's going to die in 2 minutes and still be happy he did the best he could.
>>586074483It came across more freaking the hell out to me, and, Yeah? Sonic loses something that has defined him his whole life and means he can't help out/have a good fight and he complains about it for a few moments, then resigns to helping out Tails anyways as its still the right thing to do.That all felt perfectly Sonic to me.
>>586074471He said while posting sonurge
>>586074326it's fine, I'm passively invested in my own demise anyway, should something happen to me I'm not particularly interested in fighting the good fightI have no strong emotional ties, my interests are hand-me-downs from a bygone self, I work to provide myself one more day not because I bring value or seek to engage with life but because I'm too afraid to pull the trigger myselfSonic would hate me
>>586073920You should love yourself...NOW!!!!
*slurp**gulp**smooch*slooopy
Playing Dream Team.Now I get why Team. It's like a female Team of Amy, Cream, Rouge, and a male team of Sonic, Knuckles, and Tails.
>>586074771Are you perhaps an Archie or Satam fan? Game Sonic has never been like that. There's literally no instance of Sonic pleading in the games.
>>586073773They would have so many children.
>>586069045>Amy unironically doesn't give a fuck about if Sonic's happyThis isn't true. She obviously cares about his happiness.It's in her themes.
>>586074572>It's been in effect since at least Sonic Boomyou'd have a point if >>586035935 THE BIO DIDN'T JUST CHANGE 3 MONTHS AGO!
This phase will pass.
>>586074748some people think Amy was a damsel in distress because Eggman hold her hostage for like 10 seconds. These people should not be allowed to vote
>>586073920I wasn't going to but now I will just to spite you.
>>586075023There's a difference between that and Amy letting Sonic's happiness supercede hers. You have never seen her do that. She will deliberately do things that make HIM unhappy.
>>586074771>It came across more freaking the hell out to me, and, Yeah? Sonic loses something that has defined him his whole life So again if you're writing Archie or something maybe this would be. In Sonic Labyrinth Sonic is unable to run and all he can do is his Spin Attack and he doesn't sit around moping, he just confronts Eggman with the only thing he has.>and means he can't help out/have a good fight Sonic being forced to sit on the sidelines is an interesting enough decision out of universe but not when you sacrifice his character to do it>and he complains about it for a few moments, then resigns to helping out Tails anyways as its still the right thing to do.and then what does he do? Nothing. He's not even fast enough to gather Rings. Tails has his red star ring AND his Super form to do all the work.>That all felt perfectly Sonic to me.No, it's just "what if we wrote Sonic le relatable and realistic" instead of analyzing how his character reacts to situations
>>586074471Are those Sonurge fankids?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gknenYcaH-IColors has many of my favorite zones in the series, so I was happy to see them in Rumble. The remixes are nice too. I hope they add more zones
>>586074771Sonic literally never whines. Every single time it's happened was either a dub addition or the comics/cartoons. Sonic can be half dead and infected and he won't whine. It doesn't matter if it "feels right to you" that just makes it sound like you're coked up on satam.
>>586074814Sonic would hate you but i would like you.
>>586075048You mean the phase were SoA have any influence or control over the series?Cause they shouldn't
>>586074979Let's let them enjoy BEING children for now.
>>586071592>but her core concept directly conflicts with an important game character so she's actually the worst freedom fighter to use.Use your imagination.Six Million Dollar Bunnie: Her limbs were badly damaged during The War(tm) or some other conflict and was given robotic prosthetics by Rotor or Uncle Chuck (not Sonic's Uncle of course)
>Sonic never whines
>>586075565Anon, I get your point but you don't seem to get mine. You just changed Bunnie's concept. Her entire character conflict in Satam is that Robotnik did this to her. It's literally her only conflict in that show. Changing it to Uncle Chuck changes Bunnie's core concept objectively. You are directly acknowledging that her character doesn't fit in the games.
I’ve heard that Amyfags have taken their greatest blow yet from SOJ itself?What’s the damage like?
>>586075656It's a factual statement. He is supposed to be the fastest but he was too slow to save his buddy. He isn't rolling around seething about it. He's sad and doing something about it. If you have time to worry, then run. IEven Lost World is more IC than Wrath of Nazo.
>>586074935>>586074763>He'd make due even though he wouldn't like itBut, he does exactly that? He spends his time doing what he can in gathering the needed rings and is the first up to take the experimental Chaos energy to try and finish the fight, getting back into things as fast as he can.>>586075361Ok I am starting to notice a pattern in bringing up Archie over and over and its making this complaint seem even stranger to me.
>>586075812It's from SOA i think, SOA can actually touch sonic channel now.
>>586075205Amy doesn't see it as a competition. This is kind of the problem with making Sonic date girls. His and Amy's dynamic were written with the fact he doesn't do that in mind to begin with.There is no "superceding" her happiness because she was happy to chase and believed she was doing both of them a favor by doing so sonce he is shy.
>>586076036What good is SOJ then if they kneel to what is supposed to be their vassal?
Archie is ooc
>>586075950> He isn't rolling around seething about itYes he is, he’s moping. That’s the same thing. The fact that you think one is fine but the other isn’t just shows that you have an agenda
>>586076058>There is no "superceding" her happiness because she was happy to chase and believed she was doing both of them a favor by doing so sonce he is shy.I would like 5 minutes in a boxing ring with every single woman who thinks like this.
>>586075967>Chaos energyI knew it. Chakra X is an Archiefag. Tragic turn of events. There is no such thing as "Chaos Energy". It's called Chaos Emerald Power.
>>586070603Fiona…
>>586076215Randomfox...
said ya aint got my money, you shittin me smokey?chief knuckles in yo house, that bitch gon be smokingi got high off that bitch head she tried to overdose megot a cuban on my throat so she gon overthroat me
>>586071592Bunnie can work though, the conflict is easily transferable
Foids deserve less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbBBl9jjW0U
>>586076192It's disrespectful that you unironically think Lost World is anything as pathetic as what Wrath of Nazo pulled. You don't like Sonic. You let a youtuber talk to you about that game.
How about Bunnie was injured by a bad ik and the only way to save her was by using the robot parts from that same badnik
Need more aquatic m*bians.
>>586071592Bunnie can work. You can just have the origin of her mechanical parts be different. She can even still dislike them and use em begrudgingly.
>>586076602Oh I’m talking to randomfaggot, that makes sense. Kill yourself shill retard
Green HillChemical PlantSky SanctuarySeaside HillStarlight CarnivalFrozen FactorySilent ForestLava MountainDesert RuinsPinball CarnivalCity EscapeSweet MountainSpace Colony ARKPlanet WispWhat do you think about this selection of stages?
>>586076323It's the same thing you doublenigger
>>586076727bretty gud
>>586070106>surrouned
>>586076672Don’t say the M word
>>586076757Nice boots.
>>586076997MO-
>>586076323>>586076323That just feels like a pedantic nitpick."Its not actually called that its called this!"
>>586076713>Everyone who disagrees with westshit mischaracterization is my boogiemanLiking the actual GAMES doesn't make someone a shill. You're just mad that he actually understands these characters. You have never seen Sonic rolling on the ground and crying like a bitch because something happened to him. That's inaction. That's letting your feelings overwhelm you. Sonic isn't your selfinsert. Fucking comicfaggot. If he lost his speed he'd make due because that's who Sonic is. You're comparing a moment where Sonic acknowledges his failure to a moment where Sonic complains and makes it everyone else's problem. You think Sonic is supposed toa ct like Ben Tennyson.
>>586076323You’re seething over what the thing is called instead of the thing itself. Get a grip nigga
>There is no such thing as "Chaos Energy". It's called Chaos Emerald Power.
>>586075763That’s how it happened in Archie’s Reboot timeline. The damage to Bunnie’s limbs was still Eggman’s doing, the robotics were Chuck’s
>>586076672I miss him
>>586076323Chaos Energy works better
That didn't take long.
Don't really approach the fan movies with the expectation that they'll be IC anyway
>>586077182Not being able to criticize when the games do something wrong DOES make you a shill, randombitch. Lost World is just as OOC as this is, only a pathetic retarded shill would think otherwise
>>586076557>>586076757>>586076951>>586077142Its a good thing SEGA had a hand in their signs. Their concept designs were freakishly over-designed with little regard for color theory. Probably wouldn’t translate well to 3D neither.
>>586077283Archie is OOC. Bunnie is a SatAM character.
"Chaos Emerald energy" is a mouthful. "Chaos energy" flows better. Or just "Emerald power" if you're counting the Sol Emeralds.
Silver spanking Whisper's fat chocolate butt
Mint flavored cum.
>>586077486this, this level of scrutiny for a clear parody is unproductivemakes me wonder why you bother engaging with fanworks at all
>>586077326this looks like drawloverlala work
>>586077390So does this mean that randomthefox prefer to use the term Worldians instead of mobians ?
>>586077761He hates any acknowledgement of the concept of an in universe term or grouping
>>586077747it is! she's great
>>586077182>If he lost his speed he'd make due because that's who Sonic isThats literally what he does you fucker.This really is coming across as "Sonic can't show those kind of emotions!" more then anything else.And here I thought IDW already showed how flawed that is and how it makes Sonic so damned boring in his own Comic book.
Forgive me for expecting fanfiction to be made by fans >>586077542Can you actually explain how Lost World is OOC or are you just parroting something a youtuber told you
>>586077761He prefers the term “I like Japanese corporate cock in my shriveled bussy”
>>586077486I’m at the point where I expect everything to be OOC to the games I played as a kid. The shows, comics, movies, newer games, fan works. So many Sonic variants and the way they’re all portrayed/written. Best to judge them all in their own terms
You know what makes Dapple’s aunt hotter?Female deer don’t grow antlers.
>>586077907You're playing dangeroualy, my friend...
>>586078040based healthy mindset
>>586077904So you are an Archiefag and you don't care about Sonic's personality. Your complaint is that IDW doesn't show enough vulnerability. IDW. You think IDW Sonic isn't emotional enough. People like you just hate Sonic openly. You aren't interested in the character and you want him replaced with Archie Sonic.Why are you assholes mad at Randomfox for literally being right? The games never said "Chaos Energy". If you actually played them you would know this. The characters don't have "Chaos Energy" in their bodies. That's so retarded.
>>586058327Egg Pawns and Caterkiller, the two most powerful badniks to ever exist.
>>586077667Archie came out first
>>586076412>knuxougefags are thirdworlders I wish I was surprised
>>586077887wow holy shit ok then. does she still draw? lemme just say 2010s was peak sonic fanart era.
>>586077917I already did retard. Sonic doesn’t mope. He mopes in LW. OOC, simple. Just like Sonic in Colors, most characters in Forces, Amy in Frontiers, and multiple others. The games are not perfect, you need to know this
>>586077390The circling thing is admittedly cringe whenever I see it, but im not sure i ever seen anyone believe it unironically
>>586078072we all gotta push the envelope sometime!!!
The rule is that Sonic is always cool. You don't talk about his family because being mysterious is aura, he doesn't throw a pity party for himself because that's for losers, he doesn't get tied down by relationships because he lives free. Sonic characters are supposed to have simple but far reaching parameters like this
>>586077486>>586077713The whole original point is that literally everyone is IC except Sonic. Everyone universally likes Shadow Knuckles Tails, even Eggman. Silver is the only one that wasn't as great but he barely is in it anyway. So Sonic being bad stands out HARD
>>586078072
>>586078312So you're one of those people who believes in a "meta era" and creates this retarded arbitrary "cut off" in the 2010s. You refuse to accept the games and what they offer. You won't think critically about what the story is trying to say about these characters. You just think it's OOC because you haven't seen much of it in the prior games. Sonic is actively solving the problem in Lost World. He's in a TEMPORARY bad mood. He isn't hyperventilating or having a shittly little freakout. Why do you consider yourself a Sonic fan if you actively hate the character?
https://youtu.be/w0VZe1NseZ8
>>586078254>thirdworlders
Starline is back?
A lot of westshitfans don't want Sonic. They want Philip J Fry. They want him to be a spunky down on his luck guy who "Turns out to be cool" in the end instead of a guy who is effortlessly cool and inspires others just by being who he is. Those people hate Sonic. Satam fans HATE Sonic. Archie fans HATE Sonic. X fans HATE Sonic.
>>586078494Shadow is kind of friendly and cooperative for my taste but Sonic is way more off.But it didnt stop me from enjoying it overall.Knuckles was awesome. Tails got his moments to shine. I imagine the Tailsfans are happy.I liked what little Amy was there.
>>586078696Yes it was revealed he time travelled and created Nazo by experimenting with a Chao
>>586078723X is semi canon
>>586077876>He hates any acknowledgement of the concept of an in universe term or groupingSo, what you’re saying here is that randomfox is a hypocrite who refuses to accept the canon term made by lizuka or the fan term made by archie sonic when describing the type of race of people that inhabits the world of Sonic.
Ok the piece is done. Enjoy besties.
>>586078750>Shadow is kind of friendly and cooperative for my tasteSure, but I'll also give it that the original Nazo Unleashed kinda did that and its following up. The original Nazo Unleashed didnt write Sonic this bad
>>586078521>the games can change the characters and it’s fine because they’re the games, don’t question it goyslave>if a comic does the same exact thing they are literally the spawn of satan and everyone who engages with them are demonsYou’re so fucking retarded it hurts. The day you shut the fuck up (hopefully because you seppuku’d yourself) will be the greatest day in this fandom’s history. Your existence is a skid mark on the underpants of society
>>586078763There is no such thing as semi canon. It's either canon or it isn't. Shut the fuck up. Sonic X is not canon and has nothing to do with the games. I'm so tired of you complete fucking idiots. The worst part is retards like you actially feel confident arguing about Sonic characters. You don't know anything.
>>586078723>a guy who is effortlessly cool and inspires others just by being who he is.You just described X Sonic, you retarded niggerfaggot
>>586078852What is up with that shitty Surge chest dude this is way below your usual work standard
>>586078158What is your obsession with Archie? Honestly that is one of the few pieces of the franchise I just never got into.As for IDW, its more that Sonic is just plain boring in it.Is this all really because Sonic had a scene of freaking out over losing his Speed before getting to work and doing his best anyways?I genuinely do not understand your issue here.And also, Fuck you. Sonic was the first franchise I ever got into, the first game I ever played. I'm stuck with this little blue shit no matter what.
>>586078893X is semi canon though
>>586078971>semi canon
>>586078270she does, here's her carrdhttps://pamelaojedart.carrd.co/seems like I wasn't following her on my art accounts
>>5860788523 megabytes? No wonder this image is taking so long to load.
Hope Kintobor masturbating to Shadow
>>586078858The original is kind of helped by being contained heavily by the use of existing voicelines. So they informed a lot of the scenes. Though, the Dark Sonic scene and Tails thinking Shadow's gun is cool is obviously just Chakra-X doing 2000s edgy humor. That kind of scene should be given the Charmy lol.Sonic did have the scene where he tears up seeing Tails and Knuckles okay I guess.Also Randomfuck is coping lol.
>>586078894Sonic X is only in character for the first few episodes. Then it completely flies off of the handle. There is nothing resembling the games after the the first few. X Sonic does the same retarded garbage as that Nazo Unleashed movie where he starts crying and rolling around because he can't have his way. The show claims he "hates the beach" even though SONIC LOVES THE BEACH. He goes there for FUN in Sonic Adventure. You can just tell the writers for Sonic X never held a controller in their hand and just saw Sonic as a marketing opportunity.>>586078871So you ran out of arguments and just resorted to this. You think it's okay for people to die and you also think it's okay for characters to be distroted and changed. If you have to change the personality of a character, did you even like them? No. You think it's an improvement. You think it's an improvement because you reject who that character actually is.
>>586078521> He's in a TEMPORARY bad mood. He isn't hyperventilating or having a shittly little freakout.That’s the same thing you fucking retard
It's weird seeing Randomfox react to IDW Godzilla by saying "the writer is new, anything ooc is just an honest mistake"Where did he learn to compartmentalize and why does he only apply it to IDW godzilla
>>586079232> you also think it's okay for characters to be distroted and changedThat’s literally what you think so long as it happens in a game. You lack critical thinking skills to a dangerous degree for someone who claims to be an adult
>>586078783The animal characters aren't a collective race.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6nbRXdDfN8
>>586079220I never thought anything of the Sonic getting emotional with Tails and Knuckles scene because I knew it was for exaggerated fun comedic effect that they reunited and I understand the spirit of the vision—Sonic is really happy to see them okIt's pretty impossible to defend any vision regarding the Sonic in WoN
>>586079478yeah they are
>>586078969Archie and Satam are the only way you can have such gross headcanons for who Sonic is supposed to be>>586079456>That’s literally what you think so long as it happens in a gameWhat gives you the right to make claims about how I think? You don't know me. You don't know who I am. You don't have any consideration or respect for intent or interpretation when it comes to canonical material.
>>586079478>The animal characters aren't a collective race.If they are not a collective race then why do they have the same type of body and face in sonic forces then ?
>>586079452This post was funny to readBut for a serious answer, maybe the Sonic comic writers have been around for 20 years and aren't new
>>586079659>>586079594You people just want to turn Sonic into Archie
>>586078750>I imagine the Tailsfans are happy.Yes, at least I am. It’s exactly what I’ve been saying I want for him, embrace BOTH his tech genius and his ability to get active in a fight without it. And by god it didn’t make him a cowering wuss. He should GAIN resolve if Sonic “dies”, not lose it. Sonic Team, fucking take notes
>>586079621You literally defend OOC shit that happens in games. You don’t deserve to have an opinion anymore than an Archiefag, you’re no better
>>586079940You're that Tails "fan" who insists that Tials is OOC in Forces, aren't you?
>>586079761I don't give a fuck about Archie you schizoid.
>>586079773Why do you have to turn a fun fan thing into "Sonic Team take notes"? These situations are completely different. You're just doing the dumb Adventure/2 to Forces comparisons again
>>586079761>You people just want to turn Sonic into ArchieAnon Stop goalposting and answer the question already.
>>586080037I don’t insist he is I *know* he is. You defend it which means you don’t respect him or this franchise. Fucking OOCfag
>>586079773Seeing Tails ic getting resolve to avenge Sonic, it's kino. Tails going hyper is a boon.
>>586079591>I never thought anything of the Sonic getting emotional with Tails and Knuckles scene because I knew it was for exaggerated fun comedic effect that they reunited and I understand the spirit of the visionYeah I agree. I have that attitude about it in general. >>586079594No they aren't. Forces even calls the different animal types for your OC "races".
better than idw somehow
>>586080101Then you're a Satam fan. Maybe you're a Sonic X fan. You're not a fan of the games. You're attached to an OOC adaptation. >>586080198Why do you think I defend it? Are you seriously accusing me of just going along with everything just because it's a game? Have you actually considered that some people actually just appreciate the games? Is the idea of someone actually liking Sonic for what Sonic is supposed to be that strange to you? It has to be some agenda?
>>586079659Because it's a (cheaply made) videogame that needs all the characters to fit a specific role on the story as partners with Sonic and rivals to Infinite.
>>586079621God I thought the Archie obsession was just a /co/ issue.I just want Sonic to be cool again man. WoZ gave me that and I'm happy enough for it.Also wonder if its gonna cause a resurgence of Sonic and Blaze shippers, especially with Amy being reduced to a boring "mom of the team" architype
>>586080165Because Sonic Team getting this wrong in Forces has led to the fanbase at large misunderstanding Tails and it needs to be addressed until it’s fixed. Why can Amy fans rightfully complain when they change her character to lessen her interest in Sonic, but Tails fans can’t complain about the induced faults he has?
>>586080464>silvazeshitterYou're just as bad.
>>586080464Yeah there was no need for this I have no clue why this was done
>>586080374> Are you seriously accusing me of just going along with everything just because it's a game?Yes, because you literally do
The Chaos Energy bullshit is the real issue. Why would draining "Chaos Energy" from Sonic make him slow? You just fucking made that up. There is also no such thing as "Chaos Energy". Just fuck off with this retarded headcanon. Use the games.
>>586080552Because Amy fans have a real case and Tails fans time and again prove this was about being hyperchad
https://youtu.be/XOjBAz8QQuY
>>586080309>OC "races".LOL
>>586080732You don't know me. I don't like Orbot and Cubot and they are from the games. You're an idiot.
>>586080729Reference to the idw panel i guess, these are full of references
>the word "mobian" only (only!) showed up in the Archie comics>it only refers to any inhabitant of the planet Mobius (including numans)>the entire fucking fanbase gets it wrong somehow
>>586080762I'm not a schizo about the chaos energy term because even idw uses it now and we all get what it means, sega is never canonizing the chaos force archie bullshit, but yeah, i have no clue why Sonic's speed was connected to some sort of internal chaos energy he isn't supposed to have. Its not Life energy (although if Chakra knew the lore he'd know they are connected to each other and empower each other). It felt like the movies but this was written way before the movies
>>586080845Tails wasn’t even hyperchad in this, he just got a new form like literally everyone else did. He didn’t even fight that long either, it’s just the fact that he did at all that matters. You hate this because you just want him to be Bulma, and you need to fuck off forever with that
>>586080374You are retarded and I pity you, fool.
>>586081028I dont hate Tails in this and Im not your boogeyman. I like the Nazo series and in it Tails transforming and fighting is part of itAnyone who walks away from it thinking "Tails got RESPECT for once!!" is an opticsfag
>>586080309>No they aren't. Forces even calls the different animal types for your OC "races".Anon the Body type and face looks the same in both male and female typei know it hard for you accept that they are a collective race but for fuck sakeyou can't be this dumb.
>>586080893Bo Diddley is a legendary. He was one of the musical pioneers who helped turn Blues into Rock and Roll
>>586080978Even the movies didn't fuck that up. "Chaos Energy" and Sonic's speed" are separate
>>586080762Dude its a fanimation where the main conceit is it being a DB spoof.It even uses GT at one point music.
>>586080729Because its cute and some people like the ship, simple as.>>586080762>>586080978I think it was clearly done so the other characters could have their own moments in the spotlight, let them show off some cool fight scenes and moves.
I can respect anyone as long as they keep the characters FROM the games consistent with who they are IN the games. It isn't that hard. I don't see why this makes you offended.
>>586081114I said no such thing in my original thoughts >>586079773 and even if I did, there’s literally nothing wrong with that either. Optics matter. Sonic Team pays attention to optics, maybe even too much so
I wish it was 00s again
Odds I drawEven I readZero I goon
I pray this guy never touches my fan project.
>Amy is now up for grabs
Movie Sonic too busy making Moka fan edits to notice Amy
I pray this guy never touches my wee wee
>Ao3 down for about 4 weeksRip fanfics.
Idk why people expected this to be like the games
>>586081158trve
>>586081539We can ship Shadamy now
>>586081653Sonic is a video game character. His character comes from video games.
lol sthg stfu seriously
>>586081493the numbers have spoken
Movie Sonic is like Alvin and the Chipmunks, this girl is his Brittany
>>586081132>Anon the Body type and face looks the same in both male and female typeSo what?> know it hard for you accept that they are a collective race but for fuck sakeyou can't be this dumb.This isn't a real argument.
>>586081709Yeah but the movie was a dbz shonen copy from the beginning
>>586080912Funny you bring them up since they’ve been thoroughly shelved and are not a threat to fight against anymore. Ooc characterization shit like Lost World Sonic and Forces Tails are, and you defend them simply because they are in games. You cannot cry about the comics or fucking fan animations doing something ooc while defending ooc shit from games. That is the basest definition of being a hypocrite
>>586078696Yep. He's firmly in his Obito phase now wearing a spooky mask and conspiring from the shadows
>>586081813Stop trying to force the games to be the comics
>>586081493>>586081740Cool, what's the subject?
>>586081923That's what THAT anon is doing, doofus
>>586081902>defending ooc shit from gamesYou failed to prove this repeatedly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kofLWG6Vs0
>>586081547That new illit is so good btw
>>586081680>ShadamySorry, but I'm a different breed of insane.
>>586080464Kind of poetic this came out on the same day amy's feelings were erased lol.
>>586082058You just ignored when I did and started seething about nonsense again like the manchild you are
>>586081642lol it's you
>>586081929maybe a horror movie inspired piece? tis the seasona celebratory piece for Kit being added to Rumble would also be cute
double kek at the anon who was playing Chronicles 2 days ago and the game autoskipped the Sonamy segment because he completed too much
>>586080978There are fans who hold the belief that Sonic's speed needs to be explained and they rationalize that it's connected to "Chaos Energy" somehow.
I loved how he had Zano blink back to his normal fo briefly after Knuckles punched him to the Moon. Nice reference to him knocking the Super out of Sonic.
Time for Amy to become the single mother of Shadow's child
>>586082348Get ready for the redpill that it will soon become canon because that’s what the movies did
>>586082268It's-a me
>>586080978it's a stand in for Ki... because it's a Dragonball spoof...
>>586082203yosh
>>586082203>>586082580CUTE and KINO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT1atc-NXgU
Amy Rose will marry Tom Wachoswki
Who's randomfox
>>586082426Zano*NazoAlso I liked how Tails used the Superflickies to help build his converter. That was cute.
You have weighted blanket?
>>586082735Tom is a cop, he’d only go for CreamMarsden is also literally a pedo protector irl
>>586082730>Sonaze
>entire gag for 2 movies straight where maddie's sister hates tom for some nonspecific offscreen reason
>>586082210I would be hoping onto the Sonaze train if Blaze wasn't stuck to the hip with Silver and kept as nothing but a side character for him, but even then it feels more proper then Amy does now.Though at least Crossworlds gave us him and Rouge flirting together, we still have options even with Amy being ruined.
>>586082802Right! It was cute. The most ooc thing Sonic did was call that dumb
>>586082775A FAGGOThttps://files.catbox.moe/22u4b0.png
I'm going to kiss Kitanon on the mouth.
>>586078852This is canon. This is who Amy Sonic and Surge are.
>>586082992She didn’t want her sister to get colonized, makes perfect sense. One of the funnier bits in the movies
>>586082487
>>586076323how the hell do Chaos Drives work if the energy they use is "Chaos Emerald Energy"
>>586083007I hate both of these.I am glad the japanese version had sonic insult rouge instead but most people will be consuming the localization.
>>586083070isn't this... ooc?
>Sonangle1 child>Sonaze2 children>Sonurge5 children>SonamyNot canon.
If there's no such thing as "Chaos energy," what's in a Chaos Blast? Chaos Spear? Shadow doesn't need emeralds for those
>>586083216Not sure if you played the games but what energy do you think is inside a CHAOS drive? Where do you think the energy came from?
>>586081189The novelization says sonic's speed is chaos energy, thats what the electricity crackling is>>586081224People shouldnt like Sonaze. Simple as
>>586083451Not Fox but I'm pretty sure the games call those electrical and fire. Chaos Spear even makes the sound of a lightnign bolt. The power of the chaos emeralds doesn't have a unique kind of blast.
I had a terrible realization that I do not want to accept, that I've been told in the past, that I ignored, refused, and will continue even now to resist accepting, stubbornly refusing to admit I was wrong
>>586081813>So what?Same body type and same face with no actual difference at all implies that they are a collective race.
>Peach has no romantic feelings for Mario>Amy has no romantic feelings for SonicThe ICONS of gaming....
Insider Info (believe me or not faggos): the filmwriters have no idea what to do with Tails so they will be shipping Amy with him, futureTails is the one who sent her back to the past, screencrap this.
>>586083638penny for your thoughts?
>>586083216They are "crystallized emerald radiation".I.e he converted the energy into samples.
>>586083638What's wrong anon?>>586083216It's literally called that. That's what the game calls it lol
>>586083582The novels are not canon to the movies.
>>586083819It's not as dramatic as I'm making it out to be if you're mentally stable. But it's about Sonic, so none of us here are
>>586083703Trying too hard here>>586083853Says who?
it's really easy to stay ic if you make sure everything yo uwrite already happened in a game before, but that's also kind of boring and might come across as just making references
Stop double replying.
>>586083735The fuck, I thought they were artificially made without the emeraldsWere all the Chaos Drives in existence only ever made 50 years ago under Gerald, with no resupplies??
>>586083987Nig>>586083703Ger
>>586083669No it doesn't
>>586080729Sonaze is "ignorable", but it's not really a western canon only thing.It's there, but you don't REALLY need to use it, it's too subtle to change the characters and plots too substantially.
>>586081224>I think it was clearly done so the other characters could have their own moments in the spotlight, let them show off some cool fight scenes and moves.I know the point is to help the narrative along. That doesn't change that he executed it poorly because of the way he went about it>>586082520>it's a stand in for Ki... because it's a Dragonball spoof...so let's talk about this. Do you know what Ki is? It is Life energy. Chaos energy is not the lifeblood of the Sonic universe the way Ki is. It only comes from the Emeralds. It's spotty if Black Doom and thus the BArms and Shadow have some but this isn't even about Shadow, so we can put that aside. The lifeblood of the Sonic universe is Life energy.Now Nazo Unleashed was made in 2005 or whatever, so Lost World hadn't been made to really show us Life energy on its own. All we had to go off of was that we knew the Chaos Emeralds could empower nature like it did in Sonic 1.Here is the important point. Nazo Unleashed does use Chaos energy for ki blasts, but if you'll notice, when Shadic performs his version of a Spirit Bomb, the world does not raise their hands and share their energy. They raise rings, because Chakra-X knew rings connected to chaos energy and powered Super/Hyper forms. So Nazo Unleashed did not establish any ideas of Sonic and crew having Chaos energy inside of them. If it did, I wouldve forgiven it because it was 2005, and I'd forgive the sequel for following it (I dont even care THAT much, its a fan project, but we're talking about inconsistencies and people shouldnt pretend its close to canon or forgivable extrapolation of Nazoverse lore, because it isnt)Wrath of Nazo is written after Lost World. So if you want to use a concept of Life energy in terms of someone being drained, Lost World literally does it. You can still have chaos-based ki blast attacks in Super because thats harmless. But you take Sonic's speed away and say it was because of Chaos energy? That makes no sense.
>>586084382I thought Nishiyama rt'd that it was non-romantic, but then again Nishiyama lost control of blaze pretty quickly so who knows what's going on with her
idk bros. I love fanon AUs where the theme the writer is going for bleeds through .You can tell the Nazo Unleashed World is DBZ style take on the Sonic world for exampe. I love stuff like that.
>>586084076Gerald invented the concept. GUN would only need Chaos Emeralds and scientists to recreate it and make more. Years later with an Emerald even Tails himself can perfect the concept with a full Fake Emerald
>>586084571and you are based and handsome for that
>>586084076Probably. But if you'd like, GUN likely has the documents for them still.
>>586084493Anon it's a shonen parody spinoff
>>586084382Why in a dbz inspired action animation do you find the time to make Blaze blush to Sonic? Chakra has bad taste
>>586083698>Amy>Gaming IconLol, Amy not being playable on the MD pretty much killed that prospect.Also, Mario's actual love interest is Pauline (Lady).
>>586084675Yes and 2005 Nazo didnt need to shit on the lore to accomplish that
>>586084115
>>586084614>even TailsTails is smarter than all of GUN combined
I like that Sonic games don't have one locked setting and the world depends on the game
>>586084614>Gerald invented everythingI hate the Dark Age.
>>586084695I don't like sonaze but it's just imitating what idw did. this is what she is now
>>586084907It fits his adventurous character>>586084950Gerald inventing the objects that Gerald invents in Gerald's story isn't "Gerald inventing everything"
Chakra just needed an excuse for Sonic to be out of the fight.It's that simple. It's DB through and through like needing Goku out of the picture somehow so he can come in at the end to save the day, and give shitty friends a chance to do stuff.
>>586083703Don’t threaten me with a good time mf
>>586084907That's more of a Modern Sonic thing. Most Classic spin off games centered around South Island, and if they didn't they kept things pretty consistent (i.e. South Westside and Little Planet all have checkered rock patterns).
Any things that are cooler than Shadow?For example Bakugan and Monster Trucks?
>>586082580Mmmmm egg rose.
>>586085282muun
>>586085369>Any things that are cooler than Shadow?the other side of my pillow
Shadow just bred me...
>>586082453Gia forbid
>>586085552Hope...
>>586085568Cute, it's like he's trying to emulate her
>>586085568
>>586085552So what you're not special
>>586085075In the Dark Age, if Gerald didn't invent something, he either discovered it or wrote notes on it.
>>586084750Amy was in a Simpsons episode. She is an icon.
>>586085658Sonic landing into Knuckles loving embrace hurting Amy's feelings
>>586085860For the three stories revolving around Shadow's creation. You will continue to ignore the 10 other non-Shadow games that came out around the same time though I'm sure.
>>586086078Hes counting Ifrit
>>586084750>>586085067>>586085973She is tho although these days she's considered on fraud watch
>>586084321>No it doesn'tI still haven't seen you post a single thing here that would proof that calling the Worldians a collective race is wrong here.
>>586086160He's also counting Solaris, the Jeweled Scepter, and Dark Gaia
>>586086184>I still havent seen you prove a negative
>>586084964This was written years before idw did that>this is what she is now??? Because of one time a medium did this?
>>586084695It's in-character
lots of live action role playing lately.
>>586085282>Chakra just needed an excuse for Sonic to be out of the fight.This isn't some gotcha. We know. He could've written a better one.
Is it just me, or was the inclusion of Silver and Blaze in the Nazo animation practically pointless, given that they didn't add anything to the story ?
>>586086489Silver and Blaze ARE practically pointless.
>>586078852Amy should comfort your troubled mind.
Sonaze is on the table since she'll be the perfect Sally analog for being a princess.
>>586085369No
>>586086285Gerald didnt touch any of those. Im just saying Rivals 2 isnt one of Shadow's 3 core games
>>586085369
>>586086489Yes. In fact I bet that’s the whole reason they even mentioned “other realities” at all
the fowler GUN fetish accusation wounds me because I also love GUN and I don't think he's really that interested in it
>>586085860What did the Gaia Temples, Arabian Nights, Babylon Garden and Arc of the Cosmos, Solaris, Jeweled Scepter, Sol Emeralds, Camelot, that one dark energy in Lost Labyrith in Sonic 4 have to do with Gerald?
>>586086712>Gerald didnt touch any of those.Yes, that's the point, his post was stupid and wrong
Amy is for human penis
>>586086489I wouldn't say pointless, but Super Silver and Burning Blaze are characters that never got a chance to fight the original Nazo that we all would have loved to see, so this was a little breadcrumbs for them
>>586086771Same
>>586086641Sonaze has never been on the table. Son-anything was always wrong. Stop trying to turn Sonic into Archienic.
>>586086484Sure. What would you have done?>>586086489That's Silver and Blaze in general. Them showing up was to sell the escalation of stakes + they have Super/Burning forms
>>586086771Every human OC Fowler made is either a GUn agent or tied to one
>Was the reason why the 2000s was called "The Dark Age">Was the reason why Sonic 4: EP 1 & 2 exist >Was the reason why GHZ & CPZ appear in every single Sonic game now>Was the reason why the series direction in the 2010s was pretty bad in terms of writing >Was the reason why the Boom brand existed >Was the reason why SoA gained tons of power in the 2010s>Was the reason why hating Sonic was "cool" in the 2010s >Was the reason why the official western Sonic social media account was nothing but dogshit memes >Was the reason why Egoraptor became the series ambassador for awhile>Connected to various sites to maintain their influence and control over how people view the Sonic IP(TCRF, Sonic Fandom Wiki, Hidden Palace, SAGE, etc) >Was the reason why Sega & Sonic Team refuse to port or remaster any Sonic title from 1998 to 2009>Was the reason why every Sonic character(Except for Vector, for some reason) are slowly being changed to be less "problematic" and "outdated" in order to be "appealing" for a modern western audience>Nobody with logical sense could have stopped this since they were either drowned out, censored, or too young to use the internet Fuck this site, they're the reason why Amy is being lobotomized
>>586086641Ships are just going to continue being teased because there's no more trifecta, I honestly do think shipping is behind all this.
>>586087038He only does that because it's the easiest way to justify human characters being involved with aliens. I don't think he has some personal investment in GUN or is even consciously deciding to include so many GUN characters.
>>586086489>Characters that do nothing in the canon are pointlessNo shit. They do literally nothing. Oh and existing ain't an achievement.
>>586086385I mean besides idw Satbk also did it and ChakraX is probably 00s fag.>Percival is not blazedoesn't matter, she is a counterpart and sonic team played into it. if you are a silvaze person, even silver and blaze being vaguely teased in or paired in jp material has some esoteric connections to sonic or some ideas they had considering he is ''backup sonic'' rather than her interest being a cat form her dimension.
Modernbab melty time!
>>586086641Sonaze was always on the table but noticing it basically made you look like a schizo for the longest time.Hell, it still does.
>>586086641>Sally is this a shitpost to bait Besties? Sonamy dying doesn't suddenly make the most OOC ship ever a good example of characterization. If you're using Sonally as an example for Sonaze, the nyou're saying Sonic has to be out of character for Sonaze to work.
>>586087254Sonaze and Sonally are both ooc
>>586087051>boom brandNo>vectorWhat? Why even mention him? Hes not even 'problematic'Also you forgot to credit them for Mania
Sonadow >>>> Sonamy >>>>>>>> Sonaze
>>586086646I havent seen this meme in years... since the Paragonposting days...
Sonic/chilidog is the only trve canon ship.
>>586087145Was it? from my understanding Nishiyama didn't intend to make it romantic but ST teased it on SATBK for some esoteric internal reasons(still one sided)
flushu
>>586087051>>Was the reason why hating Sonic was "cool" in the 2010s>>Was the reason why the official western Sonic social media account was nothing but dogshit memes>>Was the reason why Egoraptor became the series ambassador for awhileI wouldnt blame them for everything, especially not these
>>586087487reddit
>>586086942>What would you have done?I'd rather Sonic had just been knocked out.The animation also maybe makes a point about Nazo being able to try and steal. I don't remember him Spin dashing before he got Sonic's speed. He gets his Chaos Control back after robbing Shadow of his. And then he said he was gonna take "raw echidna strength" before that fails, which, I don't know why it fails. I dont mind the vagueness, that feels very Maekawaesque, so I assume it has to do with Nazo taking the form of a hedgehog. Either way, you dont have to link Chaos energy to Sonic's speed to have Nazo steal Sonic's speed
>>586087051>Except for Vector, for some reasonkek
>>586087419Good times
>>586087641Yeah, plenty of subreddits that love Sonamy or Sonaze. Meanwhile my ship is anti-system.
Every single shipper that tries to justify Sonic being in a relationship just turns him into Archienic and outs themselves as a nonfan. Sonamyfags do it. Sonallyfags and Sonazefags always do it. Sonanglefags do it. Sonadowfags do it the most but they pretend they know better by using JPfag language.
>>586087354Mania is mostly a lazy rehash that doesn't do anything new or interesting, it shouldn't be praised over the original games.
Sonic 3&K is the first Adventure game.Sonic Adventure 0.5.
>>586087145Always will too, schizo.
>>586087818Sonurgefags too right? Right?
>>586087558LoL
>>586087901I think they mean Blaze having an one-sided crush rather than sonic reciprotating but idk
>>586086641>>586087145>>586087901I like Sonaze and Sonurge but Amy getting lobotomized was not what I wanted
>>586087859No Chao Garden tho
>>586087903Sonurge? Like Sonic and Scourge or Surge? What the fuck? Those characters hate him.
>>586087859I don't know why certain people refuse to acknowledge that many of the things they attribute to SA1 started in 3&K.
>>586088009:'|
>>586087859>>586088010Or even Sonic 1, in the case of alternate gameplay styles, that's literally what the special stages are, it was always a Sonic staple, only thing that changed is how the gameplay styles are accessed, and that's something that changed in each of the Mega Drive games as well
>>586087606Hating "Sonic" to be cool in the 2010s did not come out of nowhere, anon. It had a origin.
>>586087074Whatever fans ship wouldn't matter if SOJ had the balls to just not give in
>>586087670I saw some people say they see it as an extention of him being from a Chao, which can absorb traits from others.
>>586088007Would Scourge hate an IC Sonic? Because if Sonic is IC that means Scourge is just evil windnic.
So does Blaze exist only for the shippingbait? What's the point of this character?
>>586088009They're so confused and distraught
>Sonic 4 movie is just Sonic CD>Except Amy was never kidnapped, she was actually fighting Metal the whole time>Sonic goofs around too much fighting Metal and needs Amy to save him>Knuckles goes after Robotnik, who is actually a Good Future Robotnik and also helps out against Metal>Tails continues to do nothing>Also Shadow is here for some reasonIt's going to be peak
>>586088308Nishiyama wanted her to be his cool oc character, then the rest of the team whether soj or soa did whatever they wanted with her
>>586088308She's a second Sally for the fans who think Sonic is supposed to be a horndog who's fine settling down and becoming a king. Generation 2 Sally. Nobody actually cares about her as a character, just a trophy wife just like Sally. Such characters need to be vaulted.
>>586087818How is this Archienic?Also why do you dislike Amy?
>>586088252Yeah, that is super acceptable. So just remove the chaos energy part of sonic's speed and it works
It's too late to stop it.
>>586088190He didn't say it didn't. I think Retro is partially to blame, but it's not just them. I think video game journalists share much of the blame, maybe even most of it. And I know you don't want to admit it, but even Adventure fans are partially responsible. I am, too. I was a kid, I had no idea what I was doing or saying, I feel manipulated, or like I let myself get carried away by how everyone was behaving, and believed things people told me about certain games I didn't know anything about, like how they were to blame for me not getting what I wanted, not realizing I could have enjoyed those games. The whole situation was a really big sad mess and I'm trying to do what I can to fix it.
>>586088458I don't see this picture trying to turn Sonic into an OOC husbando. This is just how they already act with some blushing. Why are you asking me with this example?
How did Ian manage to win and turn Amy into the girlboss that doesn't need no Sonic of his dreams while also having his OCs in games?
>>586088262Do you mean Archie Scourge meeting Game Sonic or an Evil-Sonic filtered through Game Sonic? The latter would be a "evil" windnic, whatever that entails. Dunno about the larger concepts like freedom and oppression or whatnot
>>586088403Why do you hate Tails
>>586088431Sonaze didn't use to be this mainstream in 00s or even 2010s from what i remember, what changed i?
>>586087993He has a tiny sense of emotional exclusivity going on towards her for all that's worth.
Krack and Randomfox are the only things keeping this place from being overrun by Archie fans
>>586088401>>586066267>>586066942>>586067601Is this a real Kitfag or just a Sonamybestie falseflagging and astrosurfing hard? None of residents here really care about this shipfaggotry meltdown happening right now.
>>586088553For a game otherwise really well or decently written this stands out as absolutely horrible. I hate Shadow in this game and you may as well have not included him
>>586088403Movie 4 is not Sonic CD.
>>586088679why can't a sonamyfag also be a kitfag?
>>586088607It's not just Ian
>>586088009It's like someone crushed their hearts and they are short circuiting because they dont even understand what's wrong.
>>586088607We let him.We gassed him up so hard that Sega basically gave him free reign because they think that's what we wanted."Let a fan write the series", we said."He's the most capable" we said.Well, here you go.
>>586088679First 3 are me, last one is someone else.
>>586088641This is a really lame comment from Sonic. I get the fired up pun but Shadow Jet and Metal all do that. And they actually do it with speed because they're faster than Blaze
>>586088679Please stop trying to start drama with Kitbro
>>586088612I'm autistic and your question is too complicated for me.
>>586088641But that's Ian flynnism, not the japanese dialogue
>>586088678I’d rather have Archie fans than them
>>586088872Read slower then
>>586088793It's easy to forget that /sthg/ were some of Ian's earliest and biggest glazers now with how much we have shifted.
>>586088854Now say that to the besties.
>>586088928True
Sonouge is a flynnism. JP Sonic was never attracted to RougeSonally is a flynnism. Every writer in the 21st century was going to end Sonally except him and SOJ had to force him to stop"Faker" is a flynnism. Sonic and Shadow don't call each other that so much.Maria's wish is a flynnism. Shadow moved on and every time it came back was his writing.
>>586088907You sound like an archie fan
>>586087606>I wouldnt blame them for everything, especially not these.If you deny this then you simply don't know what you're talking about. A good crop of current SoA or SoA adjacent people originated on Sonic Retro and related forms (inclduding Aaron / RubyEclipse), and if they didn't they're friends of these people. Do you think people like Hesse, Evan, Ian, etc. got official jobs because SEGA Corporation and Japan kept close eyes on fan content and liked it? The reality is that all these people were and still are connected and just contact their friends to do their dream jobs together. Why do you think when the original Sonic movie trailer was a disaster with ugly Sonic, Aaron of all people personally called Tyson Hesse to be the guy to fix it and not like anyone else from SEGA or Sonic Team in Japan? Because these people all frequented the same fan circles and are this is all literally a social club. To truly understand the current situation you must research where these people came from and why they're the way they are. Do you understand?
>>586088847>>586088641Jp
>>586088010Because it's inconvenient to acknowledge. That said, even as a kid I felt Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 very pretty different. Sonix 2 was more of a pure "game" where the focus and goal was on just level progression and getting to the end of the game. Sonic 3 is much more trying to be an experience. This actually bothered me when I was much younger. The adventure games are what made me appreciate the lore and story aspect more
>>586089000Sonic doesnt reciprocate Rouge's advances in Crossworlds or idw.
>>586089089This is racetrack dialogue. Show the actual rival dialogue
>>586089000Maria's wish isn't an Ian Flynn thing. You take that back.
>>586089121>Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 very pretty different. Sonix 2 was more of a pure "game" where the focus and goal was on just level progression and getting to the end of the game. Sonic 3 is much more trying to be an experience.I wish more people recognized this, instead of pretending everything before 1998 is all the same one thing and everything since 1998 is all the same another thing
>>586089000And Shadamy is a canonism. Everyone wants it over Sonamy now. Even the Japanese are finally getting convinced.
>>586088641This is just word play, Sonic gets more "fired up" with Knuckles, Shadow, and of course Eggman and probably some others than Blaze.
>>586089226Coming back is Ian + movie synergy into one big slopstorm
>>586089007You sound like random
>>586088010>>586089121>>586089270>>586088162I know exactly what are you doing with all this specific revisionism and no, you will never ever convince anyone with this.
>>586088190Im not saying that. Im saying it isnt all on Retro. Though they obviously are complicit. It wasnt just them. There were different parties to blame on general.
>>586089089It doesn't matter since the English dialogue comes first. The Japanese dialogue is the translation.
>>586088607Takashi Iizuka is a low T beta male. He manages that energy. Look at his shy and awkward reaction to a fan's question during the Sonic x Shadow Generations presentation at AnimeExpo
>>586089494What question? Anyone would react shyly in a foreign language. When he speaks at Japanese events he is very comfortable
>flynnism
>>586089494 (me)*He emanates
>>586089398Sonic 1, 2, and 3&K are very different games. Sonic Adventure built off of things introduced in Sonic 3&K. Claiming "Classic" and "Modern" were always two opposite poles that always existed like the current branding presents them is the revisionism.
Evanisms>uwu silver (not anymore)>babysitter blaze>brainwashing>consent themed violence>sivespio>drawn out bonding scenes >misunderstanding conflict (she got this from sega)>characters mentioning social dynamics out loud>found family>reconciling with enemies>pep talks>hugging >slice of life>amy being in character >sonic being an edge chungus (deadpool)>sad women >cute men>extreme violence >surge having social awareness >shadow and sonic having a spongebob squidward dynamic
>>586089494Are you saying he kneels to Ian Flynn out of weakness?
>>586089315You think Maria's wish was dead and just a corporate thing?
>>586088595Because that's what "Sonamy" is.
>>586089398What an insecure post.
bread?
>>586088485I think the idea is its supposed to be a reference to how the Androids in DBZ can absorb energy.
Ian Flynn isn't the one you should be worrying about
>>586089815Yes. He doesn't push back against Ian and SOA even though he's been an executive at SOA since 2023
>>586089868I think it wasn't a conscious aspect of Shadow stories created from 2006-2023 until the movie led to Shadow Gens and it became a matter of synergy, and everyone involved from Iizuka to Toyoda just goes "sure thats Shadow"
>>586090073Which one is the Shadamy shipper?
>>586090102>>586090102>>586090102
>>586088583>And I know you don't want to admit it, but even Adventure fans are partially responsible. I am, too. I was a kid, I had no idea what I was doing or saying, I feel manipulated, or like I let myself get carried away by how everyone was behaving, and believed things people told me about certain games I didn't know anything about, like how they were to blame for me not getting what I wanted, not realizing I could have enjoyed those games. The whole situation was a really big sad mess and I'm trying to do what I can to fix it.This too. A lot of narratives about "we need to have this attitude for the betterment of the series". A lot of borrowed opinions.
>>586090073
>>586090023Again draining sonic of stamina or something wouldve been acceptable. "Chaos energy = source of speed" is not
>>586088001There's your monkey's paw, shipfags
>>586089297It just feels flirty and, mushy coupled with her dialogue.It seems like they're declaring their affection for each other, and it's clearly intentional in that regard.
>>586089213No it's the rival dialogue, unfortunately i don't have a visual vid.
>>586089035>A good crop of current SoA or SoA adjacent people originated on Sonic Retro and related forms (inclduding Aaron / RubyEclipse), and if they didn't they're friends of these people.I'm aware.>connections and networkingI know
>>586089270Don't get it twisted. Im still not a 1-Linefag.Classicverse is cool.>>586089398Im legit just recounting my honest experiences and thoughts.Only 1 of these is me lol
>>586090827>Don't get it twisted. Im still not a 1-Linefag.>Classicverse is cool.I think it would be cool if they made classic art style games that take place at a later point in the timeline or alternate timeline where story events go differently. I don't like the split (regardless of how many timelines it has) because it pretends the differences between games don't exist, the only possible difference this branding acknowledges is that of the binary, nothing else.
>>586089673>>found family>>reconciling with enemies>>pep talks>>hugging>>slice of lifeThat's just Amyisms re->>amy being in characterWild....
>>586089673What is the Flynn ver and how it compares
>>586090601Then why are you acting like you don't know. It's obvious how to trace those things back to them.
>>586085369>bakuganfrom what i recall, shun was basically an aura farmer throughout the show's run and barely jobbed. also he's basically a gijinka of shadow crossbred with espio (sad backstory, edgy, is a ninja)though tbf, he's not the only one that resembles the personality and traits of a sonic character (cough cough marucho)
>>586088679I am the forgotten kitfag.
