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>>750553917
you don't hate ian flynn enough
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>>750553917
So you're saying she's available?
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>>750553917
https://sonic.sega.jp/SonicChannel/character/amy.html
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>>750553917
She switched over to Human Men confirmed.
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>>750554034
kys
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>>750553917
>>750552315
We already have this thread
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>>750554034
you sound like a nigger
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>>750553998
I do, but at this point I'm tuned out of Sonikku, because I know I can't change it.
Let's hope it's just SEGA being 3-5 years socially delayed on the reception to woketrash and then they also do layoffs and change the old guard.
And to be honest, Iizuka is really championing Sonic, but at what cost? All the best Sonic games kinda happened when he wasn't looking. SA2 is the only one he led that was great. The other ones are Sonic Heroes, Shadow the Hedgehog, and then he took a backseat while Shun Nakamura and Akinori Nishiyama did 06, Unleashed, Secret Rings and Black Knight, and the other director made the Riders series. And when Iizuka came back he oversaw all the Meta Era games and all the Global Era games since the movie.

There's the impression that Sonic is finally huge, but it's also losing the underdog quality that made it so cool in the entire Modern Sonic era.
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>>750553917
Thankfully we have someone better
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>>750553917
>heh, that'll show those CHUDS. We've successfully ruined another franchi-
>NOOO STOP SAYING SHE FUCKS MEN NOW
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Well duh she's my wife now. Of course she's done with Sonic.
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You think you hate SoA enough but you don't.
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>>750554034
Nigger.
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>>750554034
>incel
Longhoused faggot.
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>>750554489
Twitterfags defending SoA's decisions is why we will never have nice things.
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>>750553917
That's because she belongs to Cory
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>>750554579
I fucking hate the Sonic Fandom.
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>>750553917
The Sonic movies gave her a human boyfriend, Ugly The Bastard. He's portrayed by Cory Borealis Delaminguez Beck.
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>>750554763
I don't really blame the entite fandom, this is why i specified twitterfags since that's we're most of the people that don't mind these changes reside.
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>>750553917
Hold the line. Blade of courage will save us.
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>>750553917
May as well remove being an engineer from Tails' character
She was never my favorite character or anything, she did come off as annoying at times, but she had a fine concept. Girl in love, strong enough to beat the shit out of people with a giant hammer, soft enough to play key roles in the stories of the Adventure games.
Now what is she? Just the token girl that's vaguely bitchy? Not the first Sonic character that's been assassinated I guess
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>>750555109
It already has
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>>750554034
Kill yourself
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>>750555196
She’s not even vaguely bitchy in the mainline games. Now she’s permanently upbeat at all times.
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>>750554034
One-dimensional characters in this kind of media are a strength because you can stick them in any situation and their interactions will carry them through. Sonic isn't a fucking drama.
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>>750555109
Problem is that when we got the eng localization on the IDW app aka the only way international fans can support the manga, they haven't made the effort to promote it at all and a lot of fans don't even know about BoC's existance.
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>>750555398
It will only be over if they rewrite that chapter is "sanitized" in the official translation but until then the existence of the manga forces me to huff hopium
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Sega made sonic into mickey mouse, he is too sanitized now, which is strange because they also want him to be cool like in frontiers
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>>750554034
good bait (not really)
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>>750555398
That's not entirely true. You could always import the tankobans and read the scanlated chapters.
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>>750554034
Ok. Where's Sonic's character development?
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>>750553917
That's because she's for CHADow.
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>>750555650
...in the universe where he isn't a slut for BHC (Blue Headhog Cock)
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Is it true that she uses tarot cards now? What's up with that?
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>>750555196
It was actually a nice change of pace to have a girl be hopelessly chasing after the hero's dick rather than the inverse. You'd assume that anyone obsessed with social politics would think that would be a good thing, but no, it's somehow problematic.
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Uh…how is Chris-chan handling this?
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>reading comic that was posted
>think "hm this is pretty meh"
>see pic related
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I haven't played any modern Sonic games beyond Mania and I'm not gonna pretend I'm that big on Sonic, but it's really baffling how awful the characterization for a lot of the cast is now from someone who played Adventure, Battle and so on.
Tails' Adventure arc got entirely forgotten, Knuckles has been flanderized to hell and what the actual fuck have they done to Amy?
Shit dude, her character makes no fucking sense anymore and she went from a surprisingly nuanced albeit simple character, a crazy and passionate girl who's incredibly kind and empathetic, who was obviously obsessed with Sonic. She was annoying in some of the older games, but it wasn't ever that bad. That thing in Frontiers, Crossworlds and IDW isn't Amy.
Also her current English VA fucking sucks dude.
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>>750555965
Sat Rex
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Absolute Sonally victory.
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>>750555708
She apparently liked tarot because she wanted to predict her future with sonic in sonic cd jp, Ian Flynn basically made it her whole personality because
>OMG HE IS SOO WELL VERSED IN SONIC LOREEEEE
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>>750556208
Canonically always ends in disaster. Nicole or Shadow steals Sally from cucknic.
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>>750556494
God I love Ian Flynn.
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>>750555708
She uses them in battle to locate Sonic
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>>750554034
One dimensional character > Zero dimensional character
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>>750554012
Amy's a great girl, but I'm already taken.
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>>750556519
>I-It always ends in disaster I tells ya! NOOOOOO DON'T LOOK AT THEM HOLDING THEIR BABIES UP NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>750555720
>You'd assume that anyone obsessed with social politics would think that would be a good thing
why would you assume that when it's been obvious they're just pushing their own agenda for years now
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This thread is doomed
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Great. Can we push this further and make Knuckles not-retarded too?

>>750556561
Nonsense.
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>>750556690
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>>750553917
My bad.
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Amy is for human men now
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>>750553917
Sega is ran by retards.
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When are they making blaze not be silver's tails
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>>750556574
>pictured King Shadow’s sloppy seconds
Sonia (the chipmunk) probably isn’t even Sonic’s kid.
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>>750556850
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>>750556534
He sounds like a leftist queer who has a problem with fun "girl pinning for the hero" thing because that is what leftists queer do , hate good and normal things.
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>>750555398
the artist himself complained when they did that idk if they stopped but have faith
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>>750554034
Happened already in SA1 and didn't have to have to undevelop her adoration of Sonic
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>>750556850
son
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>>750553917
>Lore Team
who are these guys? I'm retarded about sonic info
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>>750555721
Dimensional Merge will save us, trust the plan
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>>750553998
Man a decade we praised that man and called him the pinnacle of based. Now he's just a shell of his former glory.
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>>750558886
I never once said that. Comic book sonic fans are completely, utterly, and hopelessly fucking retarded beyond measure.
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>>750558886
He's only proved that he works best when working with other people's ideas and within strict boundaries, not when he's the one leading the ship. The irony is he'd probably write better material if he was actually bound by Sega mandates.
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>>750559228
It's okay that you missed out on some fun times bitter mcbitch.
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>>750554034
you are so fucking retarded
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>>750559371
Retard playing in mud.
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>>750559426
Stick up your ass.
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>>750553917
Thanks for letting me know it would be unethical to give Sega money and that it's more ethical to pirate their games instead. I already came to this conclusion with Nintendo after they went woke and started censoring the scripts of all their rereleases.
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Amy had to move on since Sonic started babysitting Cream.
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>>750554012
Taken by Mario.
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>>750559667
Creamed the Rabbit
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>>750553917
So, how much of a franchise killer do you think Amy is gonna be in movie 4? And how long until it poisons the games?
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>>750560251
Amy: Sonic....theres something I need to tell you and...

Sonic: Dont say it Amy, I KNOW what that is so...

Amy: I'm your sister!
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>>750553917
Well that's fucking stupid and shitty, for fuck sake this lgbtqtia+ pedophile cult what is more to them to ruin in this already gayshit world? Why can't they be nice and leave originality alone?
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>>750560436
Well, could be worst. It wouldn't shock me at all if they decided to copy the Mario movie.
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They should remove Amy.
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>>750553917
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>>750560740
What do they want him to say?
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>>750554034
>THE WACKY CARTOON CHARACTER...LE MATURE NOW!!!!!
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>>750553917
I've told you the official shit is just an animated corpse now, stick to fangames
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>>750560886
https://youtu.be/eINtE3bs6qw?si=GvGP8--eQjz9-_67

Evergreen
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>>750560734
They basically did. She has no narrative niche anymore. Her unrequited crush on Sonic was the only thing that made her stand out from the endless crowd of friends.

Amy could create scenes that you could not replicate with any other character. What can she do now? Why include her in stories at all?
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>>750561031
>no panties
>no hammer
>no fangirling
She was nuked from all possible angles
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>>750556717
That’ll never happen anon Knuckles is fucked forever until they decide they want to rip off Orange Piccolo
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>>750554217
>>750555289
At least she had a decent sendoff then
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>>750556574
Do archiefags not rad their own comic? This isn't even Archie Sonic.
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>>750556717
won't happen because he's male
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>>750556574
But this literally did end in disaster. These are Sonic's second set of twins after the first pair were killed by t a time warp. He even remembers the originals. These two end up dying anyways due to Sonic repeatedly sparing Eggman until he reset the universe into one that complies with Sega canon. That ended Sonic and Sally's relationship. Disaster.
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>>750553917
Ian Flynn won....
I guess that's that...sigh
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>>750553917
DO NOT LOSE FAITH BROTHERS
REMEMBER, SONIC TEAM AND SEGA BOW DOWN TO JEFF FOWLER'S INTERPRETATION OF THE CHARACTERS, NOT IAN FLYNN
IF JEFF MAKES AMY LOVESTRUCK IN THE FILM, THEY'LL BE FORCED TO REVERT HER IN THE GAMES
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>>750561646
females are not allowed to show affection to males in modern media so that won't happen
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>>750553917
She won in the end
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Ian Flynn Won
Ian Flynn Won
He Has 20 Gay Fox Sons
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>>750556574
>>750561691
Even as a kid and an autistic Sonic fanatic I somehow could not get into this ugly dog shit at all. Which sucked big time for me because I was starved for content that actually felt like Sonic.
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>>750561031
>Why include her in stories at all?
purely the fill the female checkbox it seems
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>>750553917
Lazerbot predicted this, btw
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>>750553917
More evidence that the Japanese have gone woke. Can't ever have anything that resembles a damsel in distress.

>>750554034
Sonic is made for 8 year olds. Sonicfags are just diseased and retarded (like bronies).
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Canonically looks like she fucks human men
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>>750561923
Same. I instantly knew this was one of those dumb spinoff comics that didn't have any source material to go off of so they just made the characters do things they would never do
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>>750561691
This is three pages before these two die. Can you please stop using Archie as bait? It is genuinely difficult to ever talk about Archie because of people like you actively antagonizing people who are already against it.
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>>750562148
______
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>>750562350
this is not bait and the "people" you are talking about are 2 to 3 mentally ill retards whom you should ignore
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>>750562019
SoA has more pull over SoJ now, they have no choice
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didn't archie get shot down completely for not being able to follow the brand standards like IDW can
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>>750553917
End of an era.

>>750553998
I already hated him for being Canadian.
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This is so sad
I need Amy upskirts to make me feel better
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>>750553917
>>750554034
Moving on from sonic is one thing, but trying overwrite her history by erasing any love interest she had for him is completely bizarre. It fall in line with Sega's attempts to make the series more child friendly. It's fucking gay and lame.
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>>750553917
>zoomers complain about sexualization and romances
>corporations remove them
>surprised pikachu face.jpg
this is why you don't go full retard
you have nobody to blame but yourselves, just like the lefties once did
you've made your grave, now lay in it. rightoids
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>>750553917
On one hand, this is a very cucked and pointless change to make. On the other hand, Sally was always the better love interest, and she should have been cannon.

>>750553998
TRUTH NUKE
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>>750563762
no one who makes these decisions has ever considered fan opinions and will continue to not do so for all eternity
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>>750563762
I am a zoomer and I have never asked for this change. This isn't a zoomer thing, this is a SEGA being gay and retarded thing.
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>>750563762
you are conflating two different groups of people
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>Both of Sonic's primary love interests are now de-cannonized
>Meanwhile Tails continues to get the most bitches across every single cannon

Tails bros can't stop winning.
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>>750564413
>erased and locked in a vault
>buried and forgotten
>buried and forgotten
>was never a thing, enjoy the cuck chair freak
Bravo Tailstard
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Sonic is gay actually
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>>750564597
Cope and Sneed, Tails is indisputably and objectively best boy and the ladies all know it.
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>>750559228
>zoomie wasn't here for the ride
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>>750564691
Best fuccboy sure. Definitely gets fucked by human men.
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>>750564735
>implying he's not banging the human chick on Tails Tube
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>>750553917
Can I be here BF now?
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You can't change anything about a Sonic character without upsetting the autistic fanbase. Any of you upset about this is the same as Chris-chan complaining about the blarms. You're Chris-chan, dude
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>>750565494
Fuck off Ian.
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good she deserves a strong man of colour
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>>750554217
Blamy?
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>>750555289
>BIG HANDS
It's kinda funny to see the fact that these fuckers have (proportionally speaking) XBAUX HUEG hands acknowledged officially.
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I'm glad that I avoid Sonic movies like I already did with Mario movies. Send these characters into Fortnite as Fortnite skins already. These IPs belong to the IP graveyard game.
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>>750555469
>Hoo HA Amy fucks human men now hoo HA
>Enjoy your compensatory loli hoo HA
>Hoo HA
>Sage anal sex
>Hoo HA
>drilling a hole in Belle so she can get it too hoo HA
I'm 40/60 on this new Sonic personality tbqh, cautiously optimistic for now.
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>>750565691
Sonic, Knuckles and Shadow are in Fortnite as player skins
Tails is in as a pet
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>>750565691
>Send these characters into Fortnite as Fortnite skins already.
That already happened lmao
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>>750553917
Based.
Sonurge is now canon.
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>>750553917
Sonic the KEKhog
More Amy for me then.
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I want to molest Belle the Tinkerer.
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>>750565773
The only good thing to come out of IDW Sonic are the girls.
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>>750565981
>quirky cartoon hero right out of Classic Sonic
>Ian Flynn doing his best to write a realistic PTSD haver
>character who's more traumatized than Shadow but in practice just acts like a generic asshole punk
I like how none of these niggas feel like they belong in the same setting.
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>Amy chased sonic around and was more annoying than romantic about it
>had not crushed on sonic since unleashed or generations
>wtf!? Why they remove a character trait that has not been used in nearly 20 years!?
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Ian Flynn has slowly sucked the life out of this series
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>>750558886
People praised him because he got the easiest fucking entry point known to man and had people constantly telling him to fuck off from doing stupid shit, so he kept on pushing off his tard ideas and kept on going for low hanging fruit which worked okay.
The funniest part of preboot is the context of what he was on the verge of doing, nearly all his "full arc plans" were complete ass. Have you read the actual plans for mecha sally?

Anyone saying he was good once we had a sizable amount of reboot was a terminal retard by the way; shit sucked ass.
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>>750553917
she's for waifufags now. mlslop time
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>>750566029
I like how they all make my dick rock hard.
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Amy is a far better character now by abandoning her one sided crush. She can now have a proper personality like liking tarot cards, fortune telling, astrology, etc.
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>>750566095
What did you expect? He's a cucknadian. The day of the rake cannot happen soon enough.
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>>750554034
You should cut your own throat open with a knife. Everyone would be happier if you werent around.
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>>750566128
Admittedly there is that.
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>>750557583
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>>750566084
She was still horny for him in IDW, which makes this all the more surprising since IDW is generally ground zero for Woke Sonic.
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>>750566249
IDW is weirdly unregulated so random issues reflect different views sometimes.
There's other funny shit like how you could tell that one writer wanted an edgy Surge only for two or so issues later for Ian to come back and correct it back to the retard character.
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>>750566314
I liked Mimic doing right after we learned his backstory.
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>>750553917
Based. Amy is for human men only.
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>>750553998
>The options were him or HTF guys
Can we get a good writer for once?
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>scan thread
>people are seriously claiming Amy can have a personality now
>when her love for Sonic, while one-sided, is a big reason she's a fighter in the first fuck place
>that desire to keep up with the love of her life is the reason Amy is who she is since her rescuing in Sonic CD
>Sonic Prime becomes some of the first media to not have Amy be Sonic obsessed
>she's basically the new leader who kowtows everyone, even in universes where she's the sidekick
>her only personality is that she's somehow always better than everyone else in a fight
Even fucking Sonic Boom kept Amy's love for Sonic, just she hides it so she doesn't come off as creepy stalker which is funny. Removing the love for Sonic from Amy's equation literally makes her less of a character.
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Amy should be free to go on more dates with Shadow now
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>>750553917
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>>750566491
Anon basically every single one of those posts are blatant shitposts. I know the tism level should be expected to be high here but come on.
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>Amy character rewritten
You love to see it, she is independent now, lore-wise.
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>>750566581
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so what you're saying is the pink hedgehog fucks human men now
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>>750566491
Modern Amy is this pic except replace cooking with loving sonic
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>>750566581
>>750566735
/thread
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>>750566751
>This and the feminist Knuckles scene
Boom was weirdly based.
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>>750567891
I'm like 70% sure that the writers lurked here.
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>>750566249
>IDW
bro, we talk about VIDEOGAMES here
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>>750568134
They denied this guy was a parody but we all know the truth.
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>>750568282
Which video game is OP's screenshot from you nigger? Oh, it's from a website, huh.
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>>750566146
and finding an actual bf
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>>750553917
Why are modern writers so scared of showing romance to children?
Reminds me of Netflix Avatar completely getting rid of Aang and Katara's romance.
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>>750568982
Children are aliens incapable of feeling love.
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>>750553917
>lets the woke americans take over the lore
>ruins the most beloved and retarded girl in the series into a girlboss.

Fuck thease cunts.
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>listen CHUD, amy has a real personality now instead of just a crush!
>she's...uhm....CHEERFUL! and she....uhm...NEVER GIVES UP! and....uhm....uhhh......tarot cards?
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if i was a teenager this would piss me off but no i just dont care
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>>750569065
Nickelodeon's Avatar is not alive out of love. The IP belongs to Skydance now.
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Ian Flynn raped everyone in this thread.
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>>750569320
Jokes on you I've never finished any Sonic game nor movie.
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>>750569320
I was in the parking lot (ironically) practicing my rollerblade self-defense when he got me. I remember his van with the sign: "If this van's a-rockin', don't come a-knockin'."
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>>750562943
zero evidence of this, especially knowing that faggot Flynn would've been smugly """subtly""" insinuating he was responsible on twitter or whatever, when in every instance of him talking about SoJ, it's about how they don't let him do fucking anything (which is a good thing)

Sega could have easily mandated this change themselves, and historically SoA have less sway over SoJ when it comes to Sonic so the notion that this change comes from the Americans is silly

the "lore team" shit was likely just some attempt at tard wrangling to shut the gaijin up on social media, they probably don't have a lot of pull on things that matter
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>>750554034
it would be character development if we were actually shown it happened instead of erasing history and acting like it was never a thing
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>>750569187
Hilarious how she is just "generic girl of the group" now with zero personality now
Leave it to westoid niggers to ruin everything
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Amy hasn’t done anything good in years
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>>750566751
There is absolutely no way this is a real quote from the show. It's too sensible.
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>>750571542
She makes my cock hard.
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>>750563762
>/pol/jack
opinion discarted
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>>750559228
They ruin literally every Sonic thread with their shitty OCs.
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Retards really see a character profile being erased and rewritten and call it character development as if it happened in a storyline in a game or something. It's not character development if the character doesn't ever register any kind of change themselves, literal skinwalker.
No wonder they fall for history being rewritten.
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Being an adult, why should I care about this?
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>>750572664
You play video games. You're not an adult.
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>>750572731
still scared of the new media, grandpa?
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>>750568791
Yeah and its about VIDEOGAME Amy. IDW is it's own thing
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Yeah, because she's in love with ME now.
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>>750555469
Which is weird cus Yidsney shows Mickey and Minnie doing romantic straight couple shit no problem.
Guess it's cus they're black.
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Now that she's not into sonic anymore, time to fullfill the DBZ parallels and make her and Shadow be Silver's parents
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>>750553917
Good.
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>>750574250
I miss when Amy had giant tits.
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>>750563802
>>750556208
>implying
Eternal reminder that Bitchnic got cucked by a PDA.

>b-but
Nicole is implied to be dead in the future. Sally settled.
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We have reached a time when DEI trannylizers have the power to rewrite the original lore and character traits in any way they want to force their woke agenda. The same is happening to Nintendo
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>>750570193
>Lore Team
>Supposed to organize the lore of the series
>*checks deeper*
>People that want to push their own version of Sonic that goes against what the franchise is about.

Why do we always get the weirdos when people get to officialy work for the franchise.
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>>750553917
The 5 sonicfags on Bluesky are ecstatic about this change.
Now we just need Gigi whatever her name is to make a lesbian GF for Amy and we've got ourselves a night.
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I refuse to believe anyone actually enjoyed Amy desperately chasing after Sonic, only to fail because he's a prick who would rather kill himself than even just let her down easy. You can go ahead and claim you did, but you are a liar.
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>>750574748
>lesbian GF for Amy
Bring back Tekno, you filthy cowards!
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>>750574762
they don't it's cope because they don't like the alternative which is deleting sonamy.
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>>750574847
go back
>>>/vg/586014415
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>>750574741
>goes against what the franchise is about.
I fail to see how this affects Sonic games being sub-par products that only exist to sell related merchandise.

Also, the glorious nippon "vision" of Sonic is boring and lame. Nobody cares about your Santiago shit, bro.
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>>750574762
she will surely be better now that she doesn't do any of those things (or any other things)
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>>750574925
you first
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>>750574935
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>>750556753
OK, that's the cool kind of edgy.
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>>750562286
That was the beauty of Archie Sonic for me. It wasn't canonical so everyone can do all sorts of crazy shit.
Sega forcing IDW to be canon is what's making it less interesting, and I say that as someone who doesn't mind the characters in introduced such as Jewel, Lanolin, and especially Surge.
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>>750561923
As a kid, I never cared for them because they were something I never interacted with. They just existed in their own bubble.
As an adult, I realize comics and cartoons are where most off the Sonic-related autism is spawned.
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>>750553917
You can tell that one dev with the weird humanXSonic fetish made sure this revision got through so nothing can stand in their way now.
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>>750553917
Yeah no.
You just wait for a Sonic game with timeline shenanigans where we are introduced to Sonic's and Amy's firstborn kid who, in the bad future where Robotnik/Eggman became a machine god, became a hardcore badass hellbent on averting a horrible future even if this will result in him being erased from existence.
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>>750553917
it's over, foids ruined sonic.
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>>750560740
>lies
>cheats
>steals
>talks loudly in restaurants

"Mad Scientists could be here"
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>>750575498
The Eggman Empire still exists in Silver's time. Sage is presumably the leader then, while Eggman's pretty much on life support, if not just a head in a jar.
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>ruins your 30+yo franchise
Have you said thank you to Flynn-sama today?
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That last bastion of retarded chud autists, sonic, has fallen.
It's over.
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>>750575659
>Jews ruined sonic.
ftfy
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>>750575728
Darn. How does he even live in such a state?
Pure spite?
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>>750560740
>>750560886
Ian Flynn set himself up for failure by opening the fucking "But WHY doesn't Sonic kill Eggman?" can of worms himself. He was never going to be able to give that question a satisfying answer.
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>>750575728
>The Eggman Empire still exists in Silver's time.
Silver says exactly the opposite.
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The issue with Amy's only character trait being "Loves Sonic" is that if they want her to be relevant to a greater extent then they kind of have to tone that facet down. Sonic will never fully reciprocate because that'd lead to ramifications to the general status quo. The fortune teller stuff was brought back from CD because if they wanted Amy to be playable in a more active role (as in Adventure most of her stages were stealth based) especially in Frontiers she needed a secondary combat option outside of her hammer. In regards to Boom Amy, that show is a comedy so making jokes about her being a creepy stalker makes sense for that show but not for something trying to be more serious like Frontiers. She still loves Sonic but had kind of accepted that she's never tying that knot which at least means she can be around him without him wanting to flee, which was their post-CD dynamic before
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>>750553917
Daring to confirm Amy is wholly for human men.
Personally I wouldn't have said it so bluntly.
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>>750574250
Amy's tail...
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>>750575897
>She still loves Sonic but had kind of accepted that she's never tying that knot

We never see this happening
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>>750554034
Kill yourself faggot. Go ruin some other property
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>>750575815
As usual, the answer is that keeping the same story going for a long amount of time always leads to it becoming retarded.

The only way you could possibly answer this without making your protagonist look retarded is unironically going
>if he dies he'll just come back stronger so fuck it just cripple him for a while
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>>750555965
Holy sex
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>>750575957
Based gatekeeper
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>>750555965
GIVE ME HER NAME NOW
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>>750553917
That makes sense, everyone knows that Sonic's actual love interest is Sally Acorn.
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>>750553917
She's Shadow's wife now
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>>750553917
Sega of Japan, the home of the franchise changing Amy's bio is worrying cause this might also affect her upcoming movie version and other projects as well.
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>>750576482

The writing has been on the wall since Lost World and Boom. They can’t have Amy be part of the main group in games and merchandise (important) while her only real character quirk is that she’s head over heels for Sonic. This is also why they’ve been pushing the mysticism/fortune cards shit, to try to fill that void with SOMETHING.
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>>750553917
E-rated yandere with retard strength and a hammer instead of knives and guns was the main appeal though, what's the point of her character now?
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>>750576962
You're 35 years old, why do you care this much about a franchise for toddlers?
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>>750553917
Yea they mention me being her love interest just not on that page.
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I mean, if Amy isn't obssessing over Sonic, then what IS she doing?

Now more than ever, she's just "The Girl of the Group." With no defined interest, she's just cute, chipper, totally stronger than all the guys because that's so subversive in the year 2026.
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>>750576962
She's female
And uhh
She's a girl.
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>>750553917
Based? When I was a kid I thought Amy was extremely annoying because of how obsessed she was with Sonic. She wasn't cool or interesting like the other characters. Glad they finally got rid of that part of her personality
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>>750554034
Wouldn't it be more mature for Sonic to grow up and date Amy instead of acting like girls are gross and that he's too cool to date them?

What's with Mansophere people and acting like being with a woman is gay?
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>>750555708
Women like mysticism, specially crazy narcissistic women.

and men like me. Shits real guys.
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>>750577184
Sonic represents freedom. A girlfriend will only slow him down, even if she's as fast as he is.
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>>750575897
The issue with Amy is that she was designed as a plot device and was later given actual characterization.
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>>750577362
This, he’s supposed to be Peter Pan. Sonic isn’t some deep narrative
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What these retards don't understand is that Sonic actually does like Amy, Most people just think he's either asexual or something but the joke is that the coolest guy in the world, the guy who would grin in the face of death gets all flustered when he's around the girl he likes
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>>750575728
Crossworlds Ian slop is NOT canon.
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>>750577583
>gets all flustered when he's around the girl he likes
And that girls name?
Blaze the cat
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>>750574762
Or do the sensible thing where it's will they/won't they because Sonic is to shy and spry to be tied down yet and Amy understands this because she too like running around going on adventures over dating even though she really wants his dick.
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>>750577583
Sonic is a free spirit who isn't going to be chained down by anything, especially not a woman.
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>>750577583
Literally me
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>>750577362
>>750577459
Not even that kind of guy, but this cope ass justification always makes me want to yell 'GAY'.
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>>750577975
>cope ass justification
That's literally his official character description tho
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>>750553917
I really, REALLY doubt she's not gonna be a love interest in the fourth Sonic movie.
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>>750577583
>Sonic actually does like Amy,
No he fucking doesn't. You shippers are delusional morons.
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>>750578075
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>>750578054
You do realize that doesn't help, right? Like, the fact that Sega (or more specifically Iizuka) believes that coolness is mutually exclusive to having a girlfriend is telling.
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Sonic is too fast for love, or gay.
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>>750578201
>Sonic is shy.
No, he's a coward ass bitch. Even if I bought the idea that he's insecure, that only makes him an abusive cunt for leading her on instead of just talking to Amy about it like a sane person.
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>>750577640
Based.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKhHn-TClas
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>>750578075
Sonails yaoi canon
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>>750578354
>instead of just talking to Amy about it like a sane person.
Thats the thing, he isn't
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https://faq.sega.jp/hc/ja/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000782393

Send feedback to sega as to why this is a bad thing
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niggas really getting this mad over shipping Sonic characters
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>>750578450
Jap Sonic is based beyond belief.
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>>750553917
I haven't played a Sonic game since Mania and Generations, but even back then the characters were boring, flanderized versions of themselves.
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>>750553917
Now they just need to remove her
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rougestacies we won
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>>750578530
Thanks. I'll tell them it's a great thing.
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Amyfags are mentally ill
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>>750578450
>>750578657
Amy ditching the actual psychopath is objectively a good thing. Shippers are mentally ill, I swear.
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>>750574762
Lmao stfu woketardo. Comments like you are the proof this whole industry needs to burn to the ground
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>>750553917
>Rouge is free to be a whore
>meanwhile Amy cant have 1 crush+trad relationship
make it make sense
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>>750579404
>no actual response, just aggression
Uh huh.
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>>750568898
I wanted to find source, so for anyone interested:
https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=7871974
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>>750554096
Gonna cry?
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>>750553917
Sega of usa's payback for what sega of Japan did to them in the 1990's .
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>>750578948
We usually do.
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>>750579703
>Late response when that thread already died

Why
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>>750579883
What did Sega of Japan do to them in the 1990s?
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>>750576190
>She’s Shadow’s wife now
BASED
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>/sthg/ already invaded the thread
Nvm discussing about this is useless when those faggots will try to derail the conversation for their enjoyment.
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>>750560251
They're going to "subvert expectations" (read: do the safest and most predictable shit imaginable like all the other movies) by having Sonic be the one to crush on and pursue her while Amy is a generic milquetoast girlboss that brushes him off.
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>>750579939
they sabotaged sonic x-treme
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>>750579590
Wokescold
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>>750579939
SoJ told SoA to make Sonic more appealing to to American audiences, and then got vindictive when they did exactly that.
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>>750580148
How come this game and Archie are the only Sonic media that was allowed good writing?
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>>750553917
Amy fucks human men
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>>750580739
Eh, I think Battle and Chronicles have pretty solid writing as well. I've not read the Fleetway book, but I hear good things.
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Rouge > Amy
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>>750581016
Yep. I like Amy, but Rouge has always been my favorite StH character. She just has a lot going for her and is more flexible in the kinda of stories she can do.
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>>750553917
So what you’re saying is she’s single now?
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>>750579886
Didn't her boobs got reducted or something
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>>750581528
She dates Shadow now
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>>750580148
I kinda hate how cute of a pairing this is.
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>Mario friendzoned by Peach
>now this
Really makes me think.
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>>750580148
>>750581602
Sorry shippers, Sega is now sending very large men to your house because you dared imply that Shadow might give a shit about something.
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Sonamy is endgame. Idk.
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>>750582494
Incoming CrossWorlds mod within a week.
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>>750553998
Ian needs to Flynn himself out of my favorite media franchise
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Good for Sonic. He dodged a bullet.
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>>750583084
>Flynn himself
Too soon!
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>>750553998
Speak for yourself. I love him even more every day
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>>750553917
Lore Manager for the series back in July.
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I don't get why they can't just write her to be more competent so she is more of an asset to the team and wants sonic to notice her. I guess a woman doing anything for a man is unacceptable.
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I will never buy another Amy Product again.
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>>750574141
>she switches her crush to shadow
>starts dressing goth to attract him
>he has no idea what the fuck she's doing or why she's dressing like that
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>>750583973
>I don't get why they can't just write her to be more competent so she is more of an asset to the team and wants sonic to notice her
That was pretty much her stated goal at the end of her story in SA1. And Sega did jackshit with it.
https://youtu.be/m3W_zBD0JVA?si=zbO1IiLeIb_K8_WO&t=2734
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>>750583973
They've been doing that for decades, since at least SA1. Shippers cry and piss and over that too.
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>>750583916
I don't know who else to blame so I'll just say he's a liar I guess. He's probably telling the truth but I don't really care.
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>>750584189
Amy in the comics has been decent, wont lie, just wish she had that spunk in the games, didn't care for her in Frontiers, and lack of Piko use outside of like two moves annoyed me. Like tell me this wouldn't be cool to do in game.
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>>750584159
>Gothmy
hot
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Amy's bare pink butt cheeks.

https://litter.catbox.moe/pu9qd8q0xndt2d3m.jpg
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>>750583916
who is this?
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>>750584397
>spinning the Piko Piko and riding in it like the General Grievous wheelmobile
Based.
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>>750584397
Comics Rouge still has her cleavage too. I'm really not sure what's going on with SEGA's game depictions of their characters.
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>>750584776
Then you've got Lanolin with her massive jugs, too.
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>>750584776
they bended the knee. comics get away with it because is the last hide out of not sanitized media but they will eventually demand it removed until the company crashes and burns like every other AAA dogshit company these days
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>>750553917
I swear if Amy pulls out a Tarot Card or talks about cards in the 4th movie I’m gonna laugh so hard! Kek

Stupid fuckers deleting threads need their brains blown out with a shotgun
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>>750553917
Huge news for the unemployed
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>>750553917
Nobody in Japan gives a shit about Sonic and the only success the franchise found was in the west, so SEGA pretty much left the direction to the SoA-IDW clique.
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>this day and age
>being a sonic fan
>being a sonic fan who cares about the lore when its in the hands of prudes who are in the midst's of rounding out edges and characterization

you have nobody to blame but yourselves. I'll go back to my own uncringe fanbase and property.
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>>750585109
>Nobody in Japan gives a shit about Sonic
and most of jap artists only draw gay shit like shadow x sonic
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>>750566491
I like how she's still a creepy stalker.
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Sonelise is a better ship imo anyways .
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>>750560687
i wish they would copy the ingame looking aspect
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>>750553917
Amy was completely defined by her obsession with Sonic, exactly like the adoring fan in Oblivion, except unironic. That's just not right, makes her come off as a psycho. That's why they changed it. Why are people malding over this?
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>>750585707
they are shipfags
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>enter Amy thread
>barely any Amys posted
Get it together.
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>>750585707
This >>750585872, basically. Shippers are morons.

>>750585903
Fair enough.
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>>750585707
It's not really a ship thing.
Removing something iconic from the character just feels wrong.
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>>750586120
>iconic
Something being iconic doesn't make it good. Aunt May being a decrepit mummy who's a stiff breeze away from a heart attack at any given moment is "iconic", and it also fucking sucks rocks. Hot spinster Marisa Tomei May mogs hard. Amy not being an obsessed freak is just better.
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Well, Amy is just for Shadow now, there are no more barriers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLhAYUd2Txo
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>>750586364
You should kill yourself nigger. And dont post amy, you arent a real amy fan, you arent a real sonic fan. Your a tourist nigger spewing horseshit. Cut your own throat with a knife.
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>>750586485
sonamy is ooc crackship. timmy x tootie is a crackship too
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>>750586521
Ok but you can cut your own throat with a knife anytime you want and make the world a much better place to live in.
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>>750586594
you need to accept that it was a shit idea and it simply had to go
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>>750586708
Wrong. And you can and should cut your own throat with a knife. You are worthless slime.
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Well maybe it's about time for Sonic to move on to better and more attractive girls.
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>>750586485
I kneel, gatekeeper chad.
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>>750580172
Tapping the sign again

Do not try to engage with these faggots.
It will make things worse.
You will notice when they start to seethe about ships or pretending SoA's changes are good.
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>>750586485
You're being very silly, anon. There is no need to be upset.

Amy being depicted as a normal person who isn't obsessed with a guy who doesn't love her is a good thing.
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>>750586775
these events are the outcome of the amy hate fest 1999-2014. Do you realize what's going on in here? amy was disliked for most of her existence. they are doing amyfags a favor by not erasing her from existance and simply removing her most criticized trait
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>>750586794
Sonic only likes human women
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Reminder that Amy owns and operates her own bakery.
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>>750586951

Well, step in the right direction.
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>>750586976
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>>750584756
An official employee of Sega who handles Sonic's Lore.
https://x.com/MisterCrits
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>>750586886
>>750586951
You can cut your throat with a knife anytime you want. Also thats bullshit. Amy was a always a popular and beloved character, her obsession with sonic was always enjoyed and loved by the fanbase. Take your niggerbrained fanfiction back to tumblr you subhuman nigger. Cut your own throat with a knife, both of you.
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>>750586836
Incredible how you can't have a conversation about anything these days without a group of schizo manchildren invading it.
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>>750558886
It's a "lesser of evils" situation because before Flynn we were stuck with the fucking Pontaff duo. People were simply beyond desperate to be free of their hellscape, but now it's been long enough that we're now desperate to be free of Flynn's hellscape.
He will no doubt eventually be substituted for another, and then that person too will be abysmal after enough time passes that their cracks start to show.
The writer cycle perpetuates evermore.
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>>750586995
Love me a woman that can kick my ass AND cook.
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>>750587130
why are you angry? I am simply stating the truth, I have hung around this silly fandom for so long. since the 2000s and I have seen it all. the "meta era" is a byproduct of sonic 06 flopping. and now this new amy who "doesn't chase after sonic anymore" is a byproduct of the amy hatefest. you are either in denial or you spent too much time white knighting in your amy friendly bubbles and ignored the actual situation. even fans of sonamy were starting to acknowledge that amy needed to calm down, and look at what we have now.
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>>750586995
I want to eat one of Amy's pastries that she coated using her ass to squeeze the tube of frosting onto the pastry
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>>750584995
not gonna bother because it's retarded to have Metal Sonic and Amy after an adaptation of SA2
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>>750587435
Wrong.. Im stating the truth. Kill yourself. Cut your own throat with a knife.
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>>750587553
You can stay in denial all you want. at least it will make you feel better. turn off the internet and go play with your sonic and amy plushies and pretend they are going on a date
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>>750587619
Ok but you can makw the world a better place by killing yourself. Cut your throat with a knife, now.
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>>750586995
Why are they making her so girly? Part of her charm was that she was sporty like Sonic.
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>>750587619
He's right and you are retarded
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>>750586995
why is Big creepin on her?
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>>750585707
Because instead of just toning it down to a sane crush they took it away completely.
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>>750585707
>>750586364
Even assuming what you said is true (it isn't) removing that one trait she had and replacing it with literally nothing is categorically not an improvement
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>>750587896
Amy was always just a regular girl. That's why she had that throwaway line about tarot cards in CD's manual, because that's what Japanese girls are into when they're kids.
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>female hedgehog finally finds male hedgehog
>she can't have a crush on him
sad
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>>750585707
Why removing the most iconic trait of a character is a good thing? What she has now? Being a strong and brave tarot reader? Lol
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>>750577640
BASED
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>>750588102
A good thing*
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>>750587896
1) The hell are you on about?
2) Girl and sporty are not mutually exclusive.
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>Amy now a strong womyn who needs no man
nice
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>>750587140
That's how sadly /v/ is nowadays.
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>>750586995
I want Amy to forcefeed me and render me immobile.
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>>750588330
It's 4chan as a whole, strip away the bot and shill traffic and the site's dead as fuck aside from stubborn bastards who still see this shithole as the one that smells the least terrible, and all the schizo lolcows who've been removed from everywhere else and have now taken indefinite refuge in 4chan.
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>>750577640
>>750588132
Sonaze fans, we eating good
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>>750553917
Great, now they just need to remove her altogether
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>>750588102
>Why removing the most iconic trait of a character is a good thing?
>What she has now?
Good morning saar! Please do the needful!
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>>750555196
>May as well remove being an engineer from Tails' character
Nah, they took away Tails admiration and looking up to Sonic and made him an ipad baby instead
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>>750571637
Welcome to Sonic Boom.
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>>750579630
Here, have another.
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>>750588448
We just keep winning
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The best and only way they could make Amy in the new movie truly based is have her drop a line about having a son with Sonic in the future
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>>750585208
Mega Man can also be hot chick heaven
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Thriller Michael Jackson but its Sonamy!
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>>750589304
Splashwo strategically hides her giant ass and belly behind everyone else.
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>>750589304

Mm..Iris.
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I wish Hedgehogs were real
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>>750588773
Sorry. I'm an Amy fan. Couldn't care less about Sticks.
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>>750589623
At least your feelings are real
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>>750553917
Like, why? Why generalizing her character? Tarot cards aren't used enough to warrant it, any notable scene dwarf in her lack of varied inputs, her obsession with Sonic gave at least a handful of slapstick moments.

If you're gonna remove aspects of a character then make sure you're putting something notable in it's place.
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>>750575815
Might as well drop Sonic Injustice where Sonic gets swooped into another world where he offed Eggman.
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Fundamentally, Sonic characters are mascots. They're not designed to have an end. They have no long-term goals, no ultimate destination for their development. Even if they mature a tiny bit in a specific game, they mostly remain static. Even if they did undergo meaningful development throughout their existence, eventually they won't have much room to grow any further because, again, these characters don't have a destination. They don't age.

Getting rid of Amy's obsessive infatuation with Sonic is like getting rid of Donald Duck's anger issues. You COULD have him grow past it, but it's one of the most important factors that make him funny. Most people don't really want Donald to be less angry.
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>>750579356
If she wasnt doing this all the time, sure. But nothing else stands out. Sonic does that enough while backing it up with actions and deliveries. Amy's depiction in the forces comic at least attempts to handle a better balance by tying in her own esteem with the situations at hand. Prime with the multiverse only plays offs single element in each iteration that even then is gravely undermined by promoting the friendship angle to a obnoxious degree.


They lost the ability to reel in elements and on order to fix it they dump most of their characters.
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>>750590394
The people responsible/advocating for this change are precisely the kind of retards who would look at exaggerated cartoon slapstick humor and call it toxic physical abuse
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BRING
BACK
STICKS
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>>750576131
https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Ring-Ring
Welcome back, Thunderbolt.
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>>750553917
Explain this then.
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>>750586364
>Something being iconic doesn't make it good
That's irrelevant. It's a defining trait and your subjective opinion doesn't dictate its iconic status.
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>>750590394
If anything, at least weaponize it in a satirical or amusing manner. Having it is not the problem, how to use it is the deal breaker. The ending of the black knight with Amy basically pummeling sonic for "bailing" on the date Sonic can promise Amy in Unleashed is an good example of both characters. Sonic while being weirded out by Amy would take the time to kick off and enjoy himself alongside her plus wanting to live by his words. Amy freaks over getting ghosted again.

Utility over Relevancy.
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>>750590823
>former human
Eggman is TFing people into animals?
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>>750590394
This is also kinda why I feel like Sonic's friends shouldn't appear in every single game. There should be more of a rotation. Amy and Tails don't really need to be around Sonic 24/7.
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>>750558886
I always denounced the comics. Even when you guys were sucking his dick for improving the comic, I still denounced the comic. I said that the comic should never mingle with the games. That it's fine if they treat it like its own separate thing from game canon, and have Japanese writers handle game canon.

You guys bashed me, because Ian Flynn was your idol, and you thought he was going to save the franchise. Honestly, fuck you.
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>>750585707
because instead of toning it down they removed it entirely and replaced with nothing (and tarot cards even though that's also a stereotype and one associated with calling women retards).
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>>750590854
that's just typical Sonic saving someone.
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>>750585208
Do NOT taunt these niggas. Don't forget we share a direct link with their cancer.
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>>750590823
>horny over eggman making hitler look like a joke
hot and funny
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>>750591705
Who cares.
However, i would kill any tendie on sight.
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>>750591805
>eggman making hitler look like a joke
Eggman makes Downfall rant parodies? Based.
>Hitler rants about that loathsome hedgehog thwarting the marvelous Doctor Eggman's amusement enterprise
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>>750591928
With words of course.
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>>750592102
>Eggman makes Downfall rant parodies?
Yeah, kinda.
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>>750592710
>tfw Steinerbolt's counteroffensive doesn't get it under control
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How does it feel?
Too see your heroes tarnished and twisted
Reduced to nothing but slop?
Puppeted, as a corpse
for the masses to clap at
Does it make you mad?
Good.
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>>750553917
was a matter of time.
don't worry. tarot cards are all the personality she needs
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op copied someone's twitter post btw
explains the reddit spacing
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>>750593671
or op is the said twitter user
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I can weigh in on this a bit.

This is specifically something being done by SoA because the people in charge both don't want romance in the Sonic series, and want to market Amy as more than a love interest character.

I can't say for sure WHOSE decision it is, but it's not specifically the lore team members themselves pushing it, it's the people in charge of the brand as a whole. Whatever the individual team members think on the subject, any thoughts they have are being vetoed by SoA.

I think the line was specifically removed in Japan due to a hell of a lot of hubbub over the English translation and they were trying to avoid further controversy. Ironically this has totally backfired in the opposite direction.

SEGA Japan and SEGA of America have very different visions for the characters, I should add, SoA wants more stock characters who don't change, but the lore team wants more character development and there's a LOT of back and forth on it. SoA also wants to market Amy as a tough cool independent character to market to little girls and having her crush on a guy is considered outdated and potentially sexist by whoever's in charge of these decisions.

If you guys want your voices heard, I'd politely write to SEGA Japan using the contact form and talk about how you don't like changes from the American side of things making its way over to the Japanese narrative, and bring up specific issues you dislike like Amy's crush on Sonic. Don't ask for anyone to be fired because that won't be listened to. https://faq.sega.jp/hc/ja/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000782393

People in charge ARE aware of the backlash and the more you speak, the more likely it is you'll see results.
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>>750595171
>having her crush on a guy is considered outdated and potentially sexis
wtf
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>>750595171
Oh yeah, I'll also say the "they/them" pronouns shit is entirely due to poor communication between the lore team and SoJ.

Japanese doesn't really use gendered pronouns commonly and characters like Ariem and Chaos are listed in Japanese as having "unknown genders" because in Japan, that's viewed as "is this person biologically male or female" rather than a question of gender identity. Chaos and Ariem are both otherworldly beings and thus are listed as "gender: unknown", but the lore team and people in charge interpret this as "oh, I guess we should use they/them pronouns for Ariem now because SoJ says so", even though Ariem is clearly meant to be a girl.

I believe this was done for Cheese as well until it was ultimately decided to reverse that decision.
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>>750595171

So they're the ones I write to and say thanks?
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>>750593671
That’s a /sthg/ poster btw
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>>750595473
I probably did a shit job of explaining it, but the idea is that having a female character majorly obsess over a man is seen by a lot of marketing people as outdated when they want their female character to be marketable. It's the same mindset that led to Tangle being created, because the other female Sonic characters weren't seen as marketable enough to little girls as a tough independent female character.

I can also say there was some really stupid internal stuff on SoA's end that led to the Generations rewrite, like not allowing Knuckles to imply Classic Sonic is fat, Amy mentioning Classic Sonic looking younger and asking his secret, and having Classic Eggman not be allowed to call Modern Eggman "crazy".
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>>750553917
Sonic don't look!
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>>750556519
>Canonically always ends in disaster. Nicole or Shadow steals Sally from cucknic.
Depends on which Sally and which Sonic. SatAM and Archie Sally are 2 different characters. SatAM Sally's a tech wiz like Tails for example.
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>>750575815
Sonic tries to kill him all the time. Eggman's just a fucking cockroach
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straight romance is not allowed in 2026, neither are girly girls. but desu sonic is cancer
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>>750557279
He doesn't sound like that he IS that, he says he straight up doesn't like their romance. He's also the same retard that turned silver into the woobified Steven Universe ripoff, so it's no surprise he doesn't understand or care about the characters
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>>750556519
>>750596323
it ends in a disaster because the writers want it to end with a disaster because they want their own ships instead
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>>750595171
At this point I don't think if there's any salvation. Maybe the best lesson will be learn if SEGA explodes and all their IP die like they do with all studios who think censorship is a winning move. But alright, I'm writing my angry letter letting them know how fucked up these changes are.
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i guess Amy loses the one personality trait she had. and it gets replaced with...nothing.
a true 2026 girl
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>>750553917
>2026
>sonic got metoo'ed
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>>750563802
The whole issue with Amy being shit is because some retard wants her to become Sally so no, not really. Nobody wants a boring nag girl boss here.
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>>750556208
She was canonically turned into a lesbian after her whole world was erased from existence. I’d never wish that kind of death upon someone’s fav.
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>>750595647
I'd just write in and say "hey, here's my feedback on the direction of the Sonic franchise". Using a translator might also help, I'm not privy to how the feedback pipeline works though if they get messages in English vs. in Japanese, but I think if it's in Japanese they'll keep it in the Japanese office more likely and it'll get SoJ's eyes on it more.

I'll also say Amy's current boring direction IS entirely due to the lore team and specific writers, but I also do think there have been attempts to insert stuff back in that have been vetoed by SoA corporate and licensing specifically. Opinions on how Amy should be written are, to my knowledge, rather divided between SoA corporate, SoJ, and I think it even differs somewhat amongst the individual lore team members. There's a bigger focus on the character now thanks to her appearance in the next movie, which adds to things.

SoJ is somewhat disconnected from what the actual fan discourse is and mostly gets fed stuff filtered through SoA about fan feedback. This is a more direct line to them that will likely get eyes on it, no guarantee they'll decide to listen but it means people in charge over there will be aware of things.

>>750590657
There's internal desire for Sticks to return and people are aware of fans wanting her to come back. SoJ still thinks of her as a Boom-branded character hence why she's not in anything now,

Ironically SoJ is also more willing to touch Boom stuff on the Japanese side of things than they are IDW stuff, I think Channel still includes Boom branded stuff in the Sonic character card and Sticks just got an illustration on the Japanese Twitter. Pretty much all the IDW characters being included in games and stuff is largely due to SoA pushing for it.

>>750596597
I'll say to keep it polite. Just say "I strongly prefer X version of this character" or whatever, anything with severe anger or vitriol or demands to fire someone is likely getting ignored and going in the bin.
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>>750561923
Honestly, the art style repelled me instantly. I picked up one of the Sonic Select books which tricked me with the cover’s Ueakawa style
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>>750593426
who can blame vector. really.
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>>750553917
Castrate Ian Flynn
Decapitate Ian Flynn
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>>750596460
IIRC Ian actually is largely just frustrated with the will-they-or-won't-they nature of the character's relationship and wants it to either go all the way or end it definitively. Since the former won't happen, he just wanted to end it but that's also getting kind of vetoed.

The problem is that American side of things have all this focus on lore and canon and a lot of the writers want to advance the series as a linear narrative, while SoJ wants to keep things more static and keep the characters relatively consistent across appearances. The "lore" focus is a very American-spearheaded initiative.
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>>750574762
Yes, it was a fun gag that had soul and made the characters feel earnest instead of what we have now where you can tell some politic obsessed fag doesn't just need everything new to cater to their tastes and world views, but retroactively change whatever already existed because it makes them feel like they're winning
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>>750596898
Already sent my email to SEGA complaining about this in both english and japanese. I was extremely polite and made it clear this is bullshit. Other anons should do the same or sent them this thread entirely
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>>750553917
There's some irony that the rewrite says she's "true to her feelings" despite the fact they're burying one of her defining character motivations and her outspoken personality.

And replacing it with generic meaningless babble about being positive. When has she even acted like this new description?
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>>750577583
That scene where Amy doesn't recognize him as a werehog and he looks awkward and kinda disappointed is all the proof you need. As much as I think a lot of the 2000 games were scuffed they usually did good on the story.
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>>750597278
>lore focus
>but everything gets more stupid, idiotic and retarded
yeah about that
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>>750578075
BOOM GET BLOWN OUT OF THE WAY YOU FUCKING DISHONEST FREAK >>750578201
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>>750598081
This is what happens when you get a bunch of western writers who grew up with a franchise to try and nail down a bunch of lore written by developers years ago.

Specifically writers who grew up with a hyper-Americanized version of said franchise.
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looking back on it now Nintendo rejecting this comic concept was the absolute right move
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Boom Amy still loves Sonic
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>>750553917
Sonic just can't stop taking Ls huh? this is some Peter Parker tier shit having them erase any love life he ever had.
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>>750598316
What version was that? Amy being over heels for sonic is basic lore everyone knows. Is like Shadow being edgy. This change is clearly having spite for the fucking franchise and wanting to turn it into ANOTHER thing that is not, not because they grew with it or anything. The fucking snakes.
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>>750597278
SoA want to focus on lore but have no good stories to tell lmao
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>>750598382
Ian Flynn's entire writing philosophy seems massively incompatible with how Nintendo handles the Mario IP.
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>>750598168
>nothing burger no-name piece of paper
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>>750598923
Return to your general, subhuman piece of filth, before you get even more raped by your sissy boy ass.
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>>750553917
I think...I'm too old to care about this...
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>>750553917
ok yeah this is dumb. she should still love Sonic even if she's not showing it 100%. First time I genuinely disagree with an Amy character change.
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>>750597278
thats a misunderstanding on flynns part, sonic and amy arent a will they wont they story, the relationship they have now is there relationship dynamic. sonic isnt the type to settle down and is always a free spirit, and thats what amy loves about him, she always chases him because he always keeps moving and she enjoys that. sonic acting like her being over affectionate is icky is him acting more immature while amy chasing after him with a hammer is her being immature, but thats nothing more than simple antics irregardless of their relationship.
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>>750553917
it's okay guys. her ship with shadow is still on the table. it's also much fancier
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>>750590632
this is what i dont understand about the retards making this change, and its why modern writing is shit. they act like fictional stories need to be completely realistic and grounded in reality as if the point of them is to be entertaining and the entire medium is built on over the top events. if a girl chased some guy around in real life with a hammer because he wont go shopping with her, thatd be insane, but so is a bald scientist turning animals into robots to make a theme park or a flying island with a giant magic rock. these people have no sense of what is actually fun and entertaining and treat fiction as a way to vent their insecurities and push an agenda, which is why you had retards like ian on his podcast trying to imply sonic has a thing for shadow and sega gets mad at him for that.
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>>750596138
The most adorable render ever
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>>750554034
>>>/r9k/
>>750553917
>>>/pol/
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>>750590394
Ok, let's no go down with this retarded mentality that Sonic should go on forever with 0 development. Nobody wants to read/play Sonic Simpsons version. The fact that Sonic had personality instead of being another retarded mascot like Mario was the idea since the guy was created. Same for his friends. That's why Sonic has anime/movie/comics and Mario has nothing.
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>>750554153
Fuck Iizuka. He:s the sole reason Fleetway Sonic can't get a reprint
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>>750600085

Hey, as long as it keeps Archie and SatAM dead and buried.
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>>750600239
why do you hate 90s american sonic, bocoharam?
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>>750600352

It tried to take a goofy cartoony series and turn it into fucking Blade Runner. And that wouldn't be so bad if fans (and Ian and Evan) would just let the fucking thing die instead of forcing the franchise into it again.
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>>750600429
but that has been sonic since 1994 even in the games
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>>750597125
I wish Crocodiles were real
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>>750553998
The fact that Penders, the little guy who won his characters back in a landmark court case for comic books against the corporations of Archie and SEGA, is hated while Flynn is beloved, is embarrassing. Sonic fans are on another level of bootlicking which is hilarious since they constantly talk about how much they hate capitalism, fascism, down with the system, etc. In reality, their attitudes are the opposite. Talk about a lack of self awareness. Kenders also wrote the best arc in the entire Archie run and a bunch of the best one shots by the way. I hated how Flynn handled the new universe, it was so sterile
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>>750600239
Archie's long buried under it's own legal SNAFU but SatAM is available on practically every legal streaming platform wtf do you mean
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>>750600085
This has always been how SEGA handles the franchise, they're quick to shove older media adaptations of stuff into the vault once it ends. It happened in the '90s, it happened in the 2000s, it's happening now, and it will inevitably happen with IDW whenever that ends up coming to a close.

Sonic X was basically the vision for the franchise in SoJ's eyes in the 2000s and it's also gone down that route. Aside from old stuff being on streaming it's unlikely to ever make a comeback.

>>750600000
This is how basically every long-running game mascot brand operates and has been since the beginning. It's not changing, there's not going to be meaningful development in the franchise because that makes the brand into an ongoing narrative rather than an episodic one.
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>>750600545
>Penders is hated while Flynn is beloved
Why not hate both
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>>750556627
>>>/pol/
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>>750591283
This entire post reeks of larping holy shit. Nigga you were not there
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>>750598982
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>>750559371
>>750559378
>>750559426
>>750559439
Why so toxic?
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>>750600545
Penders also wrote the dogshit Echidna lore that no one gave a shit about and generally is not a good or competent writer. He also claims legal ownership over characters like Scourge and Shade, both of which would not stand up in a court of law just because he created the original characters who inspired (or in the former case, became) the same character.

Remember when he made Lien-Da foot fetish artwork and tried to make it commentary on Trump's election?
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>>750553917
Too early to panic.
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if you care about this you are not going to make it
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>>750560251
>>750580193
>>?/pol/
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>>750600545
Sup Penders.
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>>750600909
Who?
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>>750561031
She's still cute.
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>>750600545
I hate both equally, retard.
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>>750600891
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>>750565773
One of the most dyke-coded IDW OCs.
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>>750600754
go back to your general, subhuman.
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>only people celebrating are just shipfags who prefer someone else with sonic
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>>750600545
>it was so sterile
this sums up not only flynn but sonic generally since colors
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>>750553917
This has been at least 7 years in the making
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>>750601120
Someone post the Twitter thread of him being antisemitic and I guarantee you /v/ would pretend like he was ultra gigachad all along
Two-faced fucks on this board are pathetic
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>>750601987
>Damsel
Since when did that happen after that debut? I feel like Amy has been coming in to help sonic more often than he helps her.
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>>750600742
>Larping
No YOU weren't there, kiddo. You need to be over 18 to browse 4chan.

I still remember the time I called you guys archiefags, and you were like "uhm, actually, Archie doesn't publish the comic anymore. It's whatever-the-fuck now. And it's way better than Archie ever was"
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>>750602426
>doubling down
lol dumbass
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I can't believe that Ian won.
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>>750560436
And then they kiss.
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>>750602426
>"uhm, actually, Archie doesn't publish the comic anymore. It's whatever-the-fuck now. And it's way better than Archie ever was"
Got proof of these claims? I was on the ride and there sure as fuck wasn't anyone talking about who published the comic.
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>>750602598
He has no proof because he wasn't even there. Let the child larp.
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why does amy look like such a slut?
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>>750602651
>>750602598
>>750602426
Youre being too obvious
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>>750602140
I guess technically in Adventure she gets chased around by a robot and imprisoned, but she fixes her own problems with her own merits basically so I wouldn't count it.
It's kind of funny since you would think she'd be a "damsel" but truthfully she's a tough girl who can take care of herself while having the sensitivity for a more "serious" plot, and they easily could have leaned into that without rewriting her entirely.
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>>750602827
So no proof? Kay.
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>>750602140
Sonic CD she was definitely that. Not so much post Sonic CD. Ever since she became playable basically.
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>>750602915
Nigga that's literally what he just said. The fuck is the point of this post
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>>750602598
>>750602651
I don't have proof of *my* posts. Because it was years ago now, and trying to locate my specific posts would be too difficult. And also, I don't think the archive goes back that far. But I do have proof of people glazing IDW over Archie
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/613453237/#613453237
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/616426761/#q616426761
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/508804951/#q508807184

And Ian Flynn dickriding
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/424783840/#424794387
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/433730092/#433732504
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/595692604/#595710468

And the reply to that last one acknowledging that Ian Flynn fans overstate his writing ability
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/595692604/#q595710468
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>>750603213
>clearly talking about the ride (2013)
>this nigga bringing up post long after that when we were actually becoming more critical of Ians writing
Nigga...
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>>750597278
Interesting because we know from his original Mecha Sally plans that he intended to do the exact same dynamic with Sonic and Sally.
Its almost like he lies a ton.
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>>750604340
Also this dynamic literally only exists in sonic x and boom for Sonic/Amy. Because despite twitter replies implying the heads have somehow shifted to following those shows, Amy has never not been written like her older rendition.
Not to be confused with her oldest rendition from the manga, where she was the love interest.
But literally no actual main canon sonic game has pushed it, their dynamic hasn't changed in the slightest and said dynamic has always been based around both of them only vaguely knowing eachother.
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Hedgehog pussy
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>>750604695
Based
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>>750553917
Finally.... After 20 years... I can date her....
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>>750605242
too lat bro I already married her and she's loyal.
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