ǩaπa š’iimashaǩ edition>Banshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/banned-and-restricted-august-10-2026>NewsThe Pro Tour and Magic Spotlight Series in 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/the-pro-tour-and-magic-spotlight-series-in-2026Metagame Mentor: The Final Four Standard Regional Championships of Early 2026:https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-final-four-standard-regional-championships-of-early-2026>Spoilershttp://www.magicspoiler.com/https://mythicspoiler.com/CONSTRUCTED RESOURCES>Current meta, complete with deck listshttps://www.mtgtop8.com/https://www.mtggoldfish.com/metagame/>Build and share casual deckshttps://deckstats.net/https://tappedout.net/CUBE RESOURCES>Build and share Cubeshttps://cubecobra.com/landingCARD RESOURCES>Search engineshttps://scryfall.com/https://mtg.wtf/>Proxy a deck or a cube for cheaphttps://www.makeplayingcards.com/https://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Play online for freehttps://untap.in/https://dr4ft.info/>What is EDH?https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1>The Slop is for the Pigs. Pigs eat Slop.https://x.com/RealPokemoki/status/1972817965847617963>WotC's War Crimeshttps://pastebin.com/JRYDiAjq (OLD)https://pastebin.com/nEcKGAys (NEW)>Previously>>98889261>TQWhat's your favorite phyrexian card?
>>98899428>tq
SEXOOOO SEXOOOOO SEXOOOO WITH WITCH IN HER TIGHT PUSSY SEXOOOOOOO
Any draftchads here? I just had one of the coolest drafts of my life, where I drafted this bad boy 3-0 deck. But I'm actually curious about how you guys would build the deck.
What would your draft deck have looked like if you were in charge, lads? Obviously Hexhaven Invigorator is a must (P1P1 and why I only picked green from that point forward), but what else?
>>98899428Phyrexia got done dirty, but my faith in compleation remains unwavering.
>>98899460More dual lands to splash removal should have gone for a green deck with a red splash. Titanbones shouldn't have been drafted.
>>98899428
>>98899428This set was too much for Patrick Stewart
>>98899460Monogreen is courageous, but I'd have been tempted too with it being P1P1, I've had very fun successful runs in similar situations before
>trying to git gud with Dimir Tempo>figured out how to manage most matchups>get regularly curbstomped by Orzhov lifegainI unironically dun ged it>they don't care about chip damage>they can easily get infinite blockers thanks to Lunar Convocation>Authority of the Consuls completely hoses my deck>Kaito is out of the picture because of Erode and Get Lost>even with 3x Hex, 3x Triumph I can't keep up with all his little engines>his shit is so cheap that Spell Pierces and Counterspells are complete bricks past T4My deck does supposedly well in tournaments even against this slop, altho I'd assume it's partly because of sideboard fuckery?
>>98893527 #Anyone kind enough to clue me in what glurp shitto means?
>>98899748New Karn to hose their ETBs?
>>98899748are you playing bo1 arena and using that to assess the performance of a deck in actual magic>>98899773it's a star wars reference
>>98899936Not necessarily assessing the performance, more like trying to figure out what/if I'm missing somethingBO1 is a shit format but you can still feel how a deck plays out most of the times, and I do enjoy tweaking things to slightly tilt matchups into my favourI eventually plan to bite the bullet and start queueing BO3, but I'd rather settle on a concrete plan before that
Thread QuestionThe One and Only.
BO1 Never mulliganNo sideboardI’m playing real Magic, you fags are playing grab ass
>>98900223>I'm playing real Magic>while he describes Hearthstone
>>98900230Hearthstone doesn't have interactions.
Arenafags fuck off, you have your own thread
Idk man arena came first but its kind of bad now
I will NEVER consider Arena part of Magic until they actually have the fuxking Magic formats. Fuck off of here and never call yourselves Magic players.
>>98900308I dont understand why arena threads aren't on vg, but alas
>>98900308I play Arena. I am a Magic player.
>>98900334True is a game and not even a good one
Alright, full spoiler is out and looks like I only have to buy sets of two commons: Federation Probe and Savvy Profiteer. Thank fuck. Maybe I'll check and see what the shocklands are at in a week.
>no Morn cardSo this basically confirms that there will be a second set. No chance they're skipping major characters entirely.
Free MonoWhite
I will buy this guy.
>>98900308Are you proud to call yourself a magic player or something? Lmfao.
>>98900417Will you really? Seems like an inefficient use of mana.
>>98900308I wouldn't even play it if it had a real format like legacy. Absolutely rancid ui design across the board, it looks like a shitty mobile game (mostly because it is). Sticking with MTGO till the heat death of the universe.
>>98900557Mtgo isnt real magic either
>>98900568ur face isn't real magic
I love pile effects.
>>98900308>>98900557We're on endstep now grampsImagine spending money on binary code
>>98900854>slop coded garbageno, thanks.
>>98900857Don't care, it has every card and works infinitely better than mtgo or mtga
>>98900863of course you don't care, you have no principles and your brain is mush
>>98900866It's a game bro lighten upPlaying magic isn't gonna cause the reddit apocalypse
>>98901019That's what they said about UB
>>98900219Obliterator my beloved, you will always be my favorite creature.
>>98901091Nice whataboutismUB = cringeFree browser client = basedNothing you say will change that
>>98899428I am revisiting my old collection to order a few singles to finish old projects and while doing so I dusted of my knights vs dragons duel decks.The most unbalanced decks in the line, but IMO, the best theme in the line.So in attempt to fix that issue I have made the following changes.Knights:-1 treetop village, -1 sejiri steppe+2 selesnya guildgatean ape is not a knight so the cut was obvious for theme, both cuts are removing a minor combat trick from the deck which was favoured in the matchup, ever so lsightly reducing its power level without speeding up its mana, the replacements are still commons that enter tapped.Dragons:-1 dragon's claw, -2 armillary sphere, -1 fire-belly changeling+1 mountain, +2 dragon fodder, +1 dragon hatchlingchangeling for hatchling is an obvious non-dragon for its equivalent dragon, the firebreathing is unlimited rather than limited which gives it more late presence but this deck already wins in the late-game so the change there is minor.the big change is the extra mountain and extra early goblin tokens, it gives a slight improvement on the land drops which didn't always hit and more early chump blocks to deal with the knights early aggression without being overwhelming for it, and potentially more mid mana through skirk prospector or more consistent late damage through voracious dragon.dragons claw did nothing, it was a dead artifact, the life gain was meaningless, armillary sphere fixed land drops but for too high a cost and too slowly, effectively taking three turns to make the fix, by then you're already done if you needed it, the tokens address that issue differently by preventing some damage getting through while looking for that land drop, which again, has a slightly higher frequencyI believe the specific card swaps are settled, the knights has no questions, the only final statistical variance left is, do i instead go +1 fodder and +2 mountain? did I give too many tokens and not enough land drop fixing?
>>98899436What she is and what she does.
>>98901369Shie is artistically inferior to suture priest and priests of norn.The flesh is weak, she is not compleat, Elesh Norn is disappointed.
Just car-pulled a borderless The Theorist: Jace . Should I be playing the lottery?
>>98901638What do you mean playing the lottery?
>>98901821Powerball/ megamillions
>>98901638stop gambling with packs, for oneand for two that's not even that rare or expensive. if you pulled a foil tranime art then you could jump and celebrate
>>98901117At the prerelease a guy attacked me with that guy and someone else, and I used Act of Aggression to grab the obliterator and used him to block.I remember that play because the guy went thought thirty emotions within the span of a minute.
>>98900219I'm a negator fan. Obliterator is kino too, obviously. But "They exist to cease" is pretty raw, no?
>>98902003The GOAT. That art is so raw too. The play patterns of Dark Ritual into Negator felt very black and exciting. Could easily go sideways if your opponent was able to resolve creatures. Don't get that nowadays. Which is fine, Negator only really worked when it was backed up by a ton of disruption, or a ton of broken black cards.
>>98899428Phyrexians suck and it's fucked up that the mirran-phyrexian war went down the way it did.
>>98899428TQ
>>98902068Only through phyresis will you come to grasp the power you so foolishly reject.
>>98899428>TQIt'd have to be Atraxa, mainly because she was the first ever Mythic I pulled
>>98902396Wow, way to make me feel old.
>>98902210I hate you and I will forever be mad at new phyrexia.
>>98902518Seethe.
>>98902690My hatred of phyrexians aside, that card looks like absolute ass.
>>98902767Damn, it's a good thing your opinion counts.
>>98902767Looks like tits to me
>>98902782He must be confusing it with this one.
>>98902210God I love Belledin and this card.
>>98902396>>98902433My first mythic was jace vrynns prodigy. Almost feels rigged, like they somehow knew I was new and gave me the $80 chase card to get me hooked like a casino.
>>98902518Mirrodin was a waste until Phyrexia made it matter. There is nothing that Great Yawgmoth's blessings touch that is not improved.
The riftbound players are laughing at us again....
>>98902915One of these days Riot is gonna pull the plug on riftbound like they do with 80% of their projects and then the shoe will be on the other foot.
>>98902915Watch their game sink like 2XKO thinking any of their shit is sustainable. Anything Riot has ever made are cheap knockoffs and no amount of cash incentives can ever change that.
>>98902915riftbound has hot asian girlswhat do we have magicbros...
>>98902931Everything good I hear about Riftbound has nothing to do with the actual game itself.
>>98902931Actual deckbuilding (which is possible due to the land system).
Premodernfags, is BW Control any good? Or should I go for Madness (GW or UG) or Deadguy Ale? My LGS is softlaunching Premodern Weekends next week and these are the only decks I can build without shelling out for RL cards.
>>98902931No such thing as a hot asian girl, but a hot Yordle with large throat capacity can be tempting
>>98902931>what do we have magicbros...
>>98903006I have no use for this card, anywhere, ever. Yet I have a sudden desire to order a proxy with the uncensored (presumably original) art.
>>98903006Imagine the notes for Keeper of the Mind that the artist decided to draw his favorite stripper spreading her vulva
>>98903049>A blue mage who magically demands the complete focus of your mindNot hard to imagine.
>go through some of my old proxies>remember that goblin guide at one point was expensive enough that it was worth proxying
>>98902915competitive mtg is dying entirely due to the fault of hasbro and wotc
>>98903126"Competitive" scenes don't survive by the nature of the game, they survive based on how many shekels are in the prize pool
>>98903132while i would normally agree with you, in this case wotc utterly destroyed the foundation of competitive play. even going below the competitive events at the lgs-level, they completely hollowed out fnms.
>>98903107Oh man, geiger's estate should fucking sue.
Can anyone tell me who to make a Brak themed Commander deck around?https://youtu.be/gQdcZP2zNFo
>>98902915>wotc spends years focusing almost entirely on casual commanderslop>competitive scene falls off a cliffI am shocked.
>>98903132The bar is low thobeit. People are asking for simple things like LGS-level support to drive people to play 60-card format whether it be non-garbage promos or precons for standard that dont fucking suck. The prize money is whatever, that comes later, I just wish wotc cared enough for consistent weekly FNMs to happen. Real FNMs, not commander nights.
>>98903204While I will agree, the xitter post is insinuating that Riftbound has more players because the land system sucks, which is forever a braindead take, and not because Riftbound has great prize support.
>>98903208>precons for standard that dont fucking suckThe challenger decks from a few years back were sweet. I almost want to buy a few of the pioneer ones just to have some cheap but complete decks lying around. Even though they're very outdated for the current format and Lurrus is banned, they'd probably still be fun to match against the others.
>>98903168No. We don't play Commander here.
>>98903227The azorius spirit and lotus field combo challenger decks were amazing. The lotus field one is actually intact and functional and you'd only need a couple of updates for it to be pioneer viable.
>>98902915Riftbound competitive is thriving right now because of the valuable promo card prizes. Has nothing to do with the $5k
>>98902799Strange, because all I can see on that card is feet.
>>98900308>it's not Magic if you can't play Modern Horizons TribalYou retards are so fucking stupid. At least the spics in the Arena thread occasionally still post about playing games, this thread can't even attract schizobrewers anymore.
>>98903290You're confused again
>>98902964UG madness and Dead guy ale are both solid and don't cost too much. You can't go wrong there. No proxies allowed though?
>>98903412Unfortunately no proxies allowed except for the championship gold bordered ones and the 30th anniversary cards, and if Im going to shell out $300 for a gold Gaea's Cradle I might as well get the real thing because why does it cost like that for a proxy?
>>98903478Premodern isn't viable without proxies. Most decks play fetches, Ancient Tombs, Mox Diamonds or any other ridiculously expensive cards. All the staples in the format have exploded in price over the last year. Even stuff like Withered Wretch or Smother.No proxies allowed = Premodern will wither and die.
>>98903403Someone's gonna need to clean her little green gobbo feet for her if she's running barefoot on the battlefield...
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evens buy sneak and show on mtgoodds kill myself
>>98903118One of the better moves JotC did to promote showing up to LGS and play Modern during the scamdemic was to giveaway Guides. Even now Guides are still good at what it does.
Competitive MTG would be a lot more popular if WotC simply had more lower level events. The Pro Tour and the bigger tournaments were cool and all, but the LGS level events were the bread and butter. It's so weird how WotC structured competitive MTG because now it's basically all grinders and there don't seem to be very many amateur players who don't go to every single big event. I really don't understand why they chose to kill off the smaller events considering this ecosystem took decades to build.
>>98902915As much as magic sucks ass now, I've noticed how Riftbound uses the same tactic as LoL where the entire marketing focuses on shitting on other games instead of telling why their game is good
>>98903772RCQs were basically that actually, but it needs more. Before we had FNMs (with a monthly exclusive card!) and gateway events that gave out promos and were a weekly thing. Somewhere along the way the FNMs went from giving you something like Counterspell to garbage, until they decided to pull it out altogether. In order to entice more people, either they bring these back or they give every player promo packs, win or lose. Something I've noticed in other modern TCGs is that they hand you promo packs even of you go 0-4 during your weeklies, and I think that goes a long way.
>>98903779Its basically the Riot MO whenever their new knockoff game enters the market>Valorant comes out>See an influx of shitting on Overwatch, marketing tactic where streamers get the game and whemever you drop by their stream, you can win a key.>TFT comes out>See a ton of comparisons being made to AutoChess and how its way more fun>Legend of Runeterra gets announced>Hearthstone gets buried by negative comments>2XKO gets announced>See a ton of shitting on other fighters and already being proclaimed as savior of the FGC back 2019I can only speak for Legend of Runeterra and 2XKO here since I also enjoy CCGs and Fighting games, but getting exposed to 2 works by Riot getting shitcanned is enough to convince me to not fall for their scam games again
>>98903790That's functionally inevitable even without a dedicated marketing campaign. Similar gamed will get compared and people will form opinions even before one of them is even out. See: TF2->Overwatch, Hearthstone->Literally any clone from the 2014-2018 era
>>98902931MtG gets qt asian girls thobeit
I spent years getting every store in my area to move from draft to edh for FNM I want to formally apologize, I had no idea it would end this way. There's literally no events for any other format within 25 miles. Welp time to start advocating for at least draft. Really I'd like to play legacy or modern again but realistically standard is probably my best bet
Managed to grab another player to do some judge tower with me, always a blast.
Is there any way to play real Magic on mobile phones/tablet?With Pauper being corrupted with UB slop, Premodern seems to be the only way to enjoy MtG. I don't have much time to play on PC tho, I'm working a lot and I would love to have a way to play it on my phone but MTGO will never get a mobile client.
Has anyone ever tried to make a premodern list that doesnt go crazy on life gain but tries to buy an extra turn against stiflenaught via a life total of 25?
>>98903934>real Magic>on mobile phoneMagic THE GATHERING, real Magic is playing with real people and interacting with them, not to click fancy pictures on your phone.
>>98903949The Rock. Just recycle baloth over and over again
>>98903964Desperate times call for desperate measures Surely you can understand
Who wore it best?>golden ageSerra Angel, Counterspell, Jayemdae Tome, Braingeyser>ClassicMorphling, Mana Drain, Ophidian, Fact or Fiction>contemporary Blightsteel Colossus, Force of Will, Dark Confidant, Thirst for Knowledge>FIREMurktide Regent, force of negation, ledger shredder, Expressive itteration
I thought that it would be like Edge of Eternities but with Star Trek characters. Instead:The LCARS frame is ugly and the font is unreadable, the LCARS shocklands have no text on it at all, which is not goodThe Classic Enterprise frame is also not that good, I don't understand the theme of it. A bit of a painted version of every character I guess? I mean it's alright but it just feels a bitKlingon language cards are bad, unreadable, unplayable.The schematics cards are probably the best ones in the set and it's still a bit disappointing.. I mean you are getting some line art. It's alright, but it's not exactly a chase piece of art that I need to have.Essentially what I'm saying is that apart from the schematics cards the entire set looks the same to me with different frames. I'm not getting excited because I pull a Kirk with a slightly different style. Does Wotc still not understand what they are competing with?!Disregard for a moment that this is anime and look at a generic One Piece card that this guy pulled, I'm giving timestamped links: https://youtu.be/EmdncWZmoSU?t=435 or compare to the sp card, if you pull this you know that you pull something special. There is no equivalent in MTG except for headliners which nobody pulls: https://youtu.be/EmdncWZmoSU?t=823 The following would be the headliner/manga: https://youtu.be/EmdncWZmoSU?t=1053Compare it to a rare TRK card that this guy pulled:https://youtu.be/BL566MZH9QE?t=118This is almost like a parody the way he reacts to this terrible generic surge foil pull: https://youtu.be/UuEtpALbCcU?t=3115Keep in mind, these surge foils are the best ones you can pull. Lol...WOTC isn't even in the same *universe* as competitors. Washed out, blurry, bad art and the card will curl and self destruct. There isn't even any art specific foiling on the MTG card. Just cake some generic foil over every card and call it a day.Shame on Wizards of the Coast! They make more money than ever with worse quality than ever!
>>98903555>diversity>both humans are brown
>>98902915I honestly prefer games with a small card pool.Back before FIRE standard did pull some numbers. Drafts and sealed were crowded as well...Now standard is like 20 sets and drafts are so boring that people don't care (and the prevalence of bombs that can win the game by themselves does not help)
>>98904634I'm a babby who only got into magic relatively recently, how were drafts different?
>>98904783Block sets, look it up and see what they took from us
>>98904783Each set was designed very carefully from multiple angles, to be drafted by itself, to be cohesive in it's block, to be relatively fair in its standard meta and to be as conservative of potential design space as possible.Then the design principle of FIRE that other anon mentined took over, blocks disappeared and everything is designed for two perspectives: two be commander viable and also to sell all by itself, these two things cross over a lot, but design space conservation, whole meta consideration and individual set draft consideration vanished, the game is now a sellout power creep trash-fire.
>>98904803And yet still after a decade, kikes never let mono white have any power in Standard.
The mentally ill dribble continues. Green is the only color that's underrepresented in the meta.
>>98905016I want to say skill issue, but I won't open a new argument instead I'll treat the statement as absolute truth; that one issue is minor compared to what exists now.
>>98905038All the more proof Green is nothing without the mole. Bring him back
>>98903779identity marketing, sadly its most of what is out there nowadays. Its no longer "hey check out our cool thing, maybe you could have fun with it" its "be cool, be a riftbound guy, use a riftbound avatar, associate your identity with riftbound NOT other brands". I remember hearing the Steve Jobs quote about branding being about identity, who people see themselves as and who they want to be.. and thinking it was true but disturbing. Its not enough to be a guy who enjoyed comics, you have to be a Marvel fan or a DC fan. You need to "make sure they do the character justice, represent the brand properly" you have to be personally offended when a bad product tarnishes the IP. The product IS YOU. WotC is corpo and old and lame and greedy, riftbound is hot asian gfs who tell you how funny you are when you superchat.
>>98905192"Turn your brand into a religion, turn your customer into a cultist"IIRC definitely not quite that phrase, but it cynically hits the truth of the matter.
>>98905250I spend a few min looking for the quote couldn't find itSEO will be the end of the internet
>>98905300>Turn your brand into a religion.>Turn your customers into fanatics.>Turn your products into obsessions.>Turn your employees into ambassadors.All four didn't appear together until 2019 in an article by Rusty Guinn, but Steve Jobs coined some of this in the 80's, Douglas Atkins coined the rest in 2004.
>>98905171Turning the game into a 4 color kike slop fest year after year is a major issue. JOTC have done literally everything except give mono White power.
>>98905192Weird because my feed is mostly people spouting the most retarded takes imaginable trying to defend WotC in response to Riftbound news posts.
>>989059114c slop exists because of a lot of contributing factors and it's hard to attack any specific one.>Manabase qualityThe better color fixing is, the easier it becomes to run more colors. It is unlikely for manabase quality to ever notably diminish below 2c untapped lands, because despite what Xitter warriors will argue, R&D sees lands as a problem to be managed rather than something to be embraced. The mulligan rules had to be reworked 3 times because of how bad mana screw was, and WotC doesn't want tournaments being decided because dimir midrange opened 3 islands 4 black cards twice. Every piece of consistency you remove from lands increases the chance the tournament scene becomes an even bigger joke which is a large problem in the fake of Fake Format(tm) already hogging the spotlight.>Low manacostsThe average curve even in a control deck tends to top out around 4 mana, with anything larger usually being cards like Jeskai Revelation (or even Siege Rhino) that will generally stabilize the entire game on resolution even from a poor position. When the vast majority of any deck is cards that cost 1-2 mana it's hard to impose a large color tax in the form of multiple color pips simply because there aren't enough pips in the card's cost to work with.>Gold cardsMulticolor cards tend to be more rewarding than monocolor cards. This is a fundamental trait established the moment that R&D realized being multicolor is not an intrinsic upside. A card that costs UU is easier and more consistent to cast than a card that costs RU, so the RU card generally has to be better. However this leads to the situation where 4c decks incidentally have pressure removed from their deckbuilding since this combines with the previous point to make it so they generally don't need to produce more than 1 pip of any color.
>>98905016Lifegain is tier A deck right now. It's either mono white, or with a touch of black. You also have mono white fliers with the new white Hydra, and mono white enchantments deck that are B+.
>>98905919I mean I see shit like this every day on my feed because the algorithm feeds me tcg stuff, and some of these are incredibly obnoxious it makes the FaB shilling from years ago seem relatively tame. At least sell my why the game is engaging / a good MtG alternative instead of shilling me that everything about it outside the actual gameplay is good, because even Wan Piss tcg shits on MtG's bed if it was purely about promo card value
>>98906019>hey I know your game is run by retards but why don't you come over and play competitive nail your dick to a 2x4
>>98906019I get ones that are literally just people schizoing out and QRTing Riftbound news posts that don't mention MtG at all and trying to make weird arguments defending lands as a resource system even though once again they're not mentioned at all in the post.It's like the community underwent collective psychosis and decided lands was the only thing MtG does well relative to its competitors despite the fact that "lands good" is probably one of the hardest arguments to make when even WotC doesn't fully agree with that.
>>98906019>go into profile>he unironically talks like thisIts a cute bit, but it gets grating fast holy shit
>>98906030I don't see how defending lands is a hard argument to makeMagic is at its peak when you aren't given everything on a silver platter, the more concessions meant to undermine that philosophy the worse the game getsI like having to sculpt a hand, I like having to pivot to a plan B if my deck is having an interesting set of draws. My favorite thing about the game, hands down, is that it rewards not giving up more than any other game I've played and lands are centrally part of that equation
>>98906027Right? > aw hey lil guy your card game sux? > come play awesome LoL card game Lmaoooo
>>98906049People generally didn't like tournament grand finals being decided because someone opened the wrong land count. Given that the most recent mulligan revision to minimize mana screw was as recent as M20 it's evident that it's an ongoing issue where lands create non-games.
>>98906062Are you thinking of a specific match or is this theoretical disappointment? I kinda fell off of watching competitive mtg after khans block
>>98906019People who talk like this are only in it for the money. I get it and theres nothing wrong with that, pro players exist afterall but if thats your only sales pitch for your game then your game has nothing good going for it. I refuse to believe people like LoL because LoL players dont even like the IP. The gameplay is Force of Will tcg but locks the fucking stack behind combat, how is that any fun
i don't want to play riftbound i just wnat to play ad nauseam storm
>>98904374Diversity only goes one way CHUD. It's IMPOSSIBLE to be racist against white people even in other countries where they're a minority. KILLING white people and genociding them has NEVER happened, especially not in SOUTH AFRICA where every whitie is a RACIST WHITE MAN YOU MUST DIE KILL THE FARMER KILL THE BAUER
>>98906086GRN Pro Tour grand finals game 5, decided because LSV had to mull to 4 to find lands and playables in the same hand.
>>98899428is this the only card that stops landfall?
>>98906197Yeah, I mean that blows and ideally that wouldn't happen. I could be cheeky and say LSV deserves way worse, like colon cancer or that he was playing boros so he gets what he gets but I'm interest of fairness i won't do thatInstead I'll just say that ashes reborn doesn't use lands and manages to be basically perfect and yet still not as good as magic. Does that mean bad beats are worth it? Probably.
Why the fuck WotC destroyed a great competitive TCG like Magic in favor of it's most casual and retarded version, Commander? Why couldn't both be supported? Is Commander, a fan made format, really that profitable to shift the entirety of this game?
>>98906280i wonder if competitive MTG would be profitable if wizards would just make actually meta-viable precons.
>>98906280Because they are subsidiary of Hasbro. And Hasbro wants money. And Wotc is the only one making money. And Commander makes more money.
>>98906272Blowing up the landfall card tends to also stop landfall.
>>98906354They should make a land with landfall!
>>98906278MtG has FMA which is one of the strongest market advantages possible. I don't think lands are the highlight that makes people want to play the game given that even WotC has not replicated the system since and pretty much the entire game's lifespan has been marked by WotC trying to minimize the chance players don't find lands, not to mention that lands themselves have a colossal amount of runoff effects on gameplay such as compressing mana curves and placing large emphasis on the mulligan.
>>98906363They couldn't even make a land that was bad Reclaim without it causing problems. I suspect a playable landfall trigger on a land is quite a long way off.
I don't understand how commander is so popular.It's a pretty fun fuck around format but it seems utterly miserable to play once you get start becoming even remotely competitive in it due to its 4 player nature.
>>98906385Its the "leader based" aspect of it. People nowadays like being represented by a character than the gameplay identory of the decks. This is why more and more modern TCGs follow that trend from FaB to riftbound
>>98906385>Points to the vocaroo in the OPHere, you seem to be a fucking retard so I'll spoon feed you like one. https://vocaroo.com/1ihc21gJLBh1
>>98906385It's not a competitive format. It's like a movie you play in background while socializing.
>>98906385It's the same reason why team games are more popular than 1v1 games, there's a whole psychology behind where you just blame the shift onto others instead of yourself, in commander you get the easy way out of "but they ganked up on me 3v1!!!"
cummander will never be magic
>>9890650860-card players likely outnumber edh players when you combine all formats
>>98906520Not a fucking chance.
>>989059804c exists because they actively print overpowered cards in 5+ mana range, and give them mana ramp with Tablet and similar. At the same time, 1-2 drops are neglected. After they banned red agro dominance, it's evident that they don't want to see anything like that again. Decks were too cheap, and didn't depend on rare and mythics, they had to go. All powerup cards have drawbacks now, while 1-2 creatures tend to be weak, and susceptible to abundant board wipes. On top of that, they make sure that everything is legendary, since it's easy to control. Problem is that they went completely overboard with powercreep. Strixhaven, Edge of Eternities, and Reality Fracture are some of the strongest sets released in the history of the game. It's not that they have cards that need banning, just pure overall strength of their best pieces is enough to severely alter established meta. I really don't think that they don't care about standard and other constructed fromats, but I do think that they actively try to balance the game via powercreep. They see a group of dominant decks, and they fix it by giving more cards to those close behind. Landfall is too strong? Give cards to lifelink. Give stronger boardwipe to red. It's ruining consistency and card economy, though. Card lose value faster, people need to spend more to keep in touch, and they lose interest.
>>98906379>placing large emphasis on the mulligan.Literally the thing that keeps me playingSkillful mulligans are the most rewarding part of the game
>>98906643>I'll gladly lose 2-3 cards in my starting hand if I can pull my guaranteed game winning combo in the remaining cardsAh, such skill
>>98906385It's like candyEdh is really fun even though there's nothing really thereWe used to play edh after drafts and it was great every once in a whileWotc did the equivalent of seeing that people like ice cream then insisted that ice cream should be eaten for every mealThe thing that made edh great was that it was taking magic cards and putting them in an environment they weren't intended forImagine my shock when designing cards for the format ruined everythingNow you ruined both the 60 card formats and this incredible amount of free interest in your game via a format YOU HAD NO HAND IN MAKINGI'm very upset and will not calm downI'm unironically playing premodern and while its an objectively bad format, at least wotc can't touch it. Clearly wotc touching your thing is what makes them worse
>>98906654Get good scrubYou kept a hand without interaction for what reason exactly?
>>98906675>Mulligan>Mulligan>Mulligan>ScoopYou'll get 'em next time tiger
>>98906692Ah yes, the classic no mulligan skill response
>>98906379Anon, the land system is what allows for deckbuilding to even exist (and mulliganing properly is a part of this process). If everyone had "perfect" or "smooth" mana each and every game then you would have nothing but aggro hell forever because it would have to be that way to beat combo to the punch.
>>98906578>they actively print overpowered cards in 5+ mana rangeYes, because the average deck will not even consider a card that's 5+ mana unless it fixes pretty much every possible problem at once. This has been true since Alpha.
>>98906742I'm not sure if you've actually played other games if you think lands is the only way deckbuilding emerges.
>>98906753>be me>win modern locals with uw suntitan as recently as 2021
>>98906787>Be me>Win locals 5 years ago
>>98906785YeahWe could like use dice instead of land and force players to reroll by milling
>>98906791Hey man, i didn't stop winning localsThey stopped firing at allThat being said that shit deck was barely hanging on no way it survived mh2 let alone mh3 (what were the THINKING?!)
>love magic for 25 years>EDH consumed 90% of the playerbase and official support>UB took a shit on its corpse afterwards>nowhere to play constructed in person anymore>buy cards and build decks I can't play with>maybe buy some weeb showcase cards and look at them in a binder, even if I had a place to play and use them at my opponent would just cry for judge and make me forfeitit all comes tumbling down
>>98906508>One man speaking the truth in the face of a wrong consensus.Exceedingly based.
>>98906785Ive played YGO, Riftbound and Grand Archive. YGO just says fuck it with any sort of "resource" system and games are heavily deoendent whether you have the right responses in the first 2 turns of the game. Riftbound's system shoehorns you into the legend that you have. Most of the time you only have 1 or 2 ways to build a deck because thats just how the legend works (Kennen, Master Yi, Riven). Sometimes the legend barely matters (Any aurora deck). Kind of similar with Grand Archive, but with this game, at the very least you have the freedom to choose a legend, up to what level of that legend you'll base your deck on, and what basic element you'll run. My gripes with that game is that using any card as resource while randomly discarding those resources to pay for costs feels TERRIBLE if you're behind since any card can be a resource, and you'll be running out of cards to actually play in order to pay for costs, even drawing 1 card unconditionally is a strong effect.With MtG, you're not constrained to any color or legendary creature (unless youre playing EDH), you can fine tune your deck to run on 19 lands because your curve stops at 2, or 13 because you run 12 mana dorks, or 25 lands because you're a traditional control deck. You can run ridiculous shit like Landless Belcher/Spy, or 43lands.dec and they WILL work because of synergies only made possible because lands affect deckbuilding. If the alternative to occasional floods/screws is being streamlined to a predesigned leader card or not having any resource system at all, I think I'll stick to lands.
>>98906868It's a game. Game pieces stay the same, but the rules change. The only constant is Magic The Gathering Cards, rest is decided by consensus.
>>98906877The fact you list Oops as a positive of the system tells me everything.
>>98906891Its a miserable deck, but the fact you can actually make that deck is a testament to the system being extremely flexible
>>98906891>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO PLAY THE DECK I APPROVE OF
The writing is on the walls. We should all jump ship to Gundam TCG while we can.
>>98906919The fact that a problem deck can emerge from the system is not a positive.
>>989069524U
>>98906840EDH is constructed, dumbdumb
>>98906877yugioh's so weird because you can tell that it needed a realignment a long time ago considering its only real resource system is that you can only normal summon once per turn so the game had to hack its own rules by including a bunch of ways to special summon shit.instead of the weird speed duel shit they would've been better served to release a more proper tcg with a more robust ruleset
