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Your favorite Chaos Space Marines novel to pretend to have read is getting a sequel.https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xqwipozh/sequel-to-the-lords-of-silence-revealed/
>>98891071That's not Apostle
>>98891071The Lords of Silent was such a good book
>>98891065>So. How about them Imperial Agents? You got any to share with the thread?Why do they suck so bad? I want to LARP as Eisenhorn and Ravenor.
>>98891071Are there any novels about World Eaters?
>>98891071That's not Legion THOUGH.
>>98891076because they're not supposed to be a real army, just a collection of everything else. genuinely, i think its just cool minis to get you into the game, then hate the army so you buy a new onethat wont work gw. i love my terrible group of nonsense
wash in receses by the trim and then either layer a bit brighter on all panels + edge on the collar or just airbrush the lighter color on flat surfaces?
>>98891103the lighting makes it look like it has giant anime eyes
>>98891076>their army rule is "you can ally these into other Imperium armies, or you can select detachments as written below">the only vehicles in the Agents roster are transports and the Corvus Blackstar>the infantry they have is underwhelming across the board>only 29 datasheets, with 9 of them being 1/1 limited characters>no official model support for some datasheets>the detachments that do exist for Agents are undertuned and sparse enough that you don't have actual options to pick betweenIt's Imperium soup of everything that GW wanted to make but didn't want to actually support.
>>98891107fuck you now i see it too
>>98891103Spray with gloss varnish, use an oil/enamel based panel liner, then spray with matte varnish
>>98891103>>98891107>>98891114>so kawaii uguu~
>>98891114>oh imperial-san. do you like my new lip stick?
>>98891120kek
>>98891079If GW had anyone with braincells the world eater "novel" would just be a visual comic with onomatopoeia of world eaters fighting random shit and the only colors would be a pallet of human internals all drawn in an 80s gritty dndpunk style.
>>98891116will have to get a panel liner or oil wash then, oh well might still be able to make it to the collagei guess you could use some stickers on the left pauldron but then i feel i'd need to bother with one on the leg and knee/main carapace as well
>>98891079Yes.
>>98891127Small minds think alike
>>98891136More like this but 90% less dialogue and more artsy fartsy art instead of the marvel slop.
You ever think about how weirdly similar all of the chaos gods are to the specific D&D demons and devils models their greater demons were repurposed from? Not just in looks but also aspect
>>98891169I'm interested, could you explain in more detail
>>98891169no, since I have no interest in d&d, never did and hate it
>>98891169There's only so many ways to skin a cat, anon"The god of excess and debauchery" for example can only be presented in so many ways when the authors are human. Frame of reference et al.
I thought since its orktober I should paint one ork mini
>>98891169D&D is for trannies so I have no interest in it. Makes sense why you like it, though
>>98891136Based gw.
Lmao nice omnipotent god you have there
>>98891169Which ones? Khorne's Bloodthirsters are Balors.Daemonettes are Succubi/Erinyes?and...?
>>98891220I wish they'd just stop making animations if they're going to be nothing but superhero movie battles with a handful of stock sound effects slapped in with no mixing
>>98891071Let's fucking gooooooo
Aside from torrenting, are there any troves for editions 4 thru 9?
>>98891229It's for the people who liked superhero movie battles, not for you or anyone else who was here firstThose are made specifically to draw in tertiaries who then go on to pay money for Warhammer+ and buy books and games and *at most* buy a few shelf-warmer models. 40k is now what Star Wars was in 2007.
>>98891199>>98891199that's not an ork tho
>>98891071I read it twice, actually.Dragan is my boy.
If I wanted to take a single Imperial Knight as an ally for fun, what would be a good option? Planning on starting SoB, but playing them like the old Witch Hunters and having a lot of Inquisition units if that matters.
>>98891275Just make sure the knight has their own unique livery. I hate how people always make knights have the same color pallet and iconography as their main army.
>>98891319I love making Knights to match the armies they run with, makes the whole army much more intimidating.
>>98891065Hey everyone it's once again time for the collage anchor posts.This month's theme was "plasma/energy weapon and spooky" and was left to your own interpretation. I'll try to post an anchor every thread but if you can't spot me write"here is my october collage submission" and it'll be way easier to find you in the archive.Here is the link to next month's votehttps://strawpoll.com/kogjRpO0Eg6
>>98891247gretchin isnt a boyz but it is an ork
>>98891344Grechin and Orks are Orkoid species
Kek, you guys need to stop bullying these poor helpless big tiddy women who just want to paint models and show off their massive racks! Lolol
>>98891341Here is my collage submission
>>98891372That’s a flamethrower not an energy weapon you dumb bitch.
>>98891065I wonder if the skitarii faggot has models or if he's just a secondary
>>98891375Heat is energy, anon
>>98891375Awfully rich of you to try policing the collage when you're the only person banned from it.
>>98891375It's a spooky little robit guy. Look at the skull! Frightening stuff.>>98891372 I think he looks great
>>98891379Actually flamethrowers work by accelerating a physical object at the enemy, which happens to be flammable and also on fireIf flamethrowers get to be energy weapons then so do all slug throwers, which rather makes the label worthless
>>98891357Foidhammers really think they can pull the wool on 40k autists
>>98891372C-c-cute! (He says in binharic)
>>98891319Seconded>>98891201Let's be real, warhams is also "for trannies" because trannies are 90% just people with the unlucky mixture of autism and porn addiction
>>98891381That’s not me you moronic fraud poster
>>98891389Flamer>launches super-heated material onto the target to exude thermal energy into the targetPlasma>launches super-heated material onto the target to exude thermal energy into the target
>>98891403You're still here? Why?
>>98891385>It's a spooky little robot guy. Look at the skull! Frightening stuff.This is the actual reason anons. You can stop arguing now. You're welcome.
What's the minimum amount of time that I can reasonably get away with before painting back over an oil wash? I'm hoping to get away with ~36 hours this time.
>>98891407Yeah but is a burning fuel sprayed in a wide arc and lingers so it can seep in and coat everywhere while the other instantly vaporizes.
I been using tupperware lid as my wet paletteI wonder if the brand one better?
>>98891434>if I just move the goalpost from my original argument I can still winI accept your concession
Not many days left now. Maybe I should start working on my entry... But it's cold and I just wanna goon and play vidya. Why is life so tough guys
>>98891440I'm a third party retard, I read your post in isolation
>>98891453Gooning kills your motivation to do work
>>98891458Follow the reply chain, context is usually important in a conversationAnd how am I supposed to know if you are or are not the same person if we're both posting anonymously?
>>98891464How do you know that I'm not lying and the same person? How does anyone else know all these posts aren't just you same fagging? I'm not going to follow the reply chain because I am lazy.
>>98891357the pedostodes girl posting her tits here is the functional equivalent of a middle aged lady suffering from dead bedroom wearing revealing clothing when her son's friends are over
>>98891492Idc her rack is nice enough for me to enjoy before the mods insta delete the picture
>>98891492As 40k becomes more mainstream you'll see a lot more low level e-whores jumping to the IP for simp money and attention lying about how they totally care about 40k and were always invested long term fans while fundamentally they try and mutate it to their own viewpoints before moving on to the next popular thing.
>>98891512TRVKE
>>98891512Women always use stuff men like as a springboard to wealth. Always has been and always will be. Doesn't matter how much we gatekeep 40k in that regard since there will always be lonely guys who latch onto them. Sad and true.
I wish she was a tranny with a cute flat chest instead of a used up fat chick…
>>98891435why not use the actual tupperware??
First two codices of 2027are Tau then DrukhariTau are getting new Crisis Suits and Broadsides. Broadsides are getting a glowup, no new weapon options. Crisis suits are becoming a lot more elite, expect to see roughly half as many on the table. New crisis suits have an onager gauntlet option.Experimental tech becomes a bigger theme for Tau, a lot of units are good at shooting with decent mobility. A lot of suit units have better profiles with both the Hazardous and One-Shot keywords. Most tau guns are gaining some AP. Fewer rerolls, a lot more mobility, but again, it's experimental so you have to roll battleshock on your move shoot move and if you fail your unit loses access and takes mortals. Most suits get twin-lance style melee where there are select gun profiles they can use, but it's WS6, sustained. Detachments for more experimental weapons, autopass hazardous tests, and are more generalist instead of being BR reliantRumor Engine is Broadside RailgunDrones still tokens. Drukhari get Vect, a large boat that is essentially a diet tantallus, and Trueborn multikit with Kabalite Warriors. They come with an elf-wide update similar to the marine codex, basically elves remain as squishy, but get 'Fleet of Foot', which is basically a choice per unit per battleround of move shoot move, adv + charge, reactive on infantry only, or for vehicles a 4++ invuln but they can only snapshoot. Druk have Pain Tokens with advanced profiles. The entire army is like 90% hunter profiles now, Haywire is anti-vehicle 4+ devwounds on hunter and much weaker into other units. Poison is hunter-nonvehicle, anti-non-vehicle 3+ and most are going up AP or shotcount. Most epic heroes are more than doubling in price but now hit similarly to primarchs offensively. Covens still neglected. Blasters and Dark Lances are getting hunter profiles for vehicles with dev wounds. Army is more expensive and most options are worse into general targets, but much, much better into their specific targets.
>>98891519>>98891524My problem isn't the opportunistic whores, my problem is the weak willed betas that bend over and allow the setting to be change to accommodate them. We've already seen the ramifications of letting performative males and feminists screw with other IPs. Can anyone here unironically say they like shit like Erda, or outside of a gooner context Transtodes and how GW straight up lied, or how SoB are having testosterone slipped into them like they're on HRT? Once they get bored and leave we'll be left with a shattered clown setting for the funny plastic men painted lovingly and with utter fucking hate by old neckbeards who've lived their entire lives with 40k.
>>98891553>only update models that don't need updatedyeah I can see that happening
Oh great, another day of meltdowns over things that literally don't matter to any sane person's enjoyment of the hobby.
>>98891132May I see them?
>>98891565Tau getting model updates is dumb and gay
>>98891553>everything gets more elite except for marineslol okay
>>98891553>becoming a lot more eliteSo you might bring 1 less chaff unit every game to make up for the cost, got itOr do they actually mean it this time instead of the blatant lie it was for marines?
>>98891229>>98891245I like superhero movie battles :)
>>98891554>Can anyone here unironically say they like shit like ErdaBig E's bitch wife thinking she knows better than him and screwing everything up is based, actually
>>98889171>>98889196I awoke in a cold sweat having remembered something. It's been foretold anons, I must.
>>98891578GW's handling of it is cheap and shitty though. Their first rounds of animations were animated overpriced powerpoints, then when they got assmad everyone made fun of them they nuked content creators, especially on youtube, with CaDs orders, getting channels locked and deleted. Only the top creators were given a contract deal to work under the direct preview of GW. When they finally shat out phase two of their anims, it looked like something a lazy blender animator could make in a week. It did get better when they forcibly snagged the Astartes guy and hired some Maya artists, but they're still cheap retards that will do the bare minimum while charging people out the ass. The SFM 40k animations blow these people out of the water 9 times out of 10, and for free.
do I get this or do I get god hand?
>>98891554>we'll be left with a shattered clown setting for the funny plastic men painted lovingly and with utter fucking hate by old neckbeards who've lived their entire lives with 40k.
>>98891584Yeah, holy fucking woman moment. Somehow they try and frame it as the Emperor's fault that super smart girlboss Erda had Lindsay Clancy moment.
>>98891595Buy me popeyes
>>98891598
>>98891432Painting with what? Acrylics should be ok, other oils will definitely be ok but you might risk reactivation. 36 hours in proper temps with airflow should be more than ok. Depends on what paint and color you used for the wash. I mix a bit of dry accelerator/medium in with my oil washes to make sure they dry, but some colors just take longer.
>>98891554You lost and you will keep losing.
>>98891103She's cute anon
>>98891563Global forever cost of living pressures mean that people can't afford the entry to 40kGW wants people buying new models to make moneyThey refresh things that don't need it and up the point values and add wargear so new players don't have to buy as much for an army but new players also feel pressured to rebuy their armies, which makes the game 'cheaper' while also getting more people to rebuy perfectly good models.
>>98891633you lost, tranny
>>98891633>we wuz space kannnnngsI have no problem with this, he looks like a rouge trader or potentially a planetary governor. My problem is when things like gene seed overriding your genetic DNA is ignored in the name of the god of diversity or when every Imperial Guard officer is a strong waman, or when regiments magically have the ethnic diversity of a modern day metropolitan American city, because those weren't done in service to the setting, they were done in service to IRL liberal politics. No one complains about Inquisitor Mordecai Toth.
>>98891629The wash will be a roughly 1-1 mix of burnt umber and ivory black. Over that, I'll just be doing acrylics. Probably just the effects for plasma and helmet lenses, and maybe some highlight touchups.
>>98891627>Where did you get that picture of me?
>>98891627Unironically one of the coolest slaanesh things I've seen
>>98891657There was this post some twitter tranny made about having a fat black disabled female space marine in a mobile chair scooter being heckin' valid etc and one of my friends on discord sent me this image in comparison telling me he wanted to kitbash said marine as a slanneshi chaos marine using this image as a base.
>>98891655>every Imperial Guard officer is a strong womanI shouldn't have to explain why retiring Creed just to introduce a new woman named Creed is doing thisAs well, Graves was 1000% meant to be a stronk womyn replacement for Yarrick, but GW saw dollar signs on "new Yarrick model" and said to hell with it insteadMy source is my ass hair
>>98891432Why are you painting over an oil wash? Grab some q tips and white spirits. I also hope you applied a gloss varnish before you used oils, which I'm guessing you didnt if you're trying to paint over it.
>>98891657>>98891669>>98891672FOUND THE IMAGE
>>98891554I just don't care and focus on my own thing.
>>98891674I don't get what's so empowering about taking the legacy of a guy and giving it to a bootleg version of that character but female. Or establishing a female character out of the blue who's sole purpose is to girlboss over an established male character to show how amazing they are.
>>98891633who is the space kang?is he the guy from that one dawn of fire book that looked like eddy murphy on the cover and loses his fucking mind to deliver his ship and crew to chaos?broad on the left is definitely from one of those DoF books
>>98891697>grimdark setting>anon is surprised and confused GW makes it more grimdark
>>98891704So making women in charge of everything is grimdark?
>>98891713Destroying everything you love is Grimdark :^)
>>98891674I think they could have gotten away with Creed's daughter if they weren't also making virtually every other new Guard character a strong woman. Space Churchill being succeeded by his Space Ms. Trunchbull daughter is kind of funny, but taken alongside everything else it's just too much.
I only play editions where thousand sons have tzaangors
>>98891713Obviously, they are incompetent and bad in leadership roles.
>>98891703It’s a Rogue Trader novel called Void King
>>98891678Why would I want an oil wash over lighting effects?The model's already varnished, I'm giving it a full 24 hours before bringing out the oil.
>>98891718That doesn't look too bad, I'm sure that the space wolves are bros enough to make you a chapter servant if you do something amazing in the IG or something. It is kind of weird though that they have wooden shields and axes and seem to be leading a bunch of those new primaris space wolves. Guides? The planet looks snowy so that's probably not it.
>>98891741>Why would I want an oil wash over lighting effects?You're the retard who said you're using an oil wash, I said nothing about where you're applying it. If it's varnished matte then it's probably going to seep in and stain.
>>98891656> Burnt umberUsually dry next day. That's a mineral color that catalyzes the oxidation of the base oil. Just make sure you put the mini somewhere open to dry afterwards. You could put a little fan on them if you really need it to be dry but it should be fine.
>>98891103decided to do it with normal nuln oil and kinda like the result, almost decided to do mephisto's rune but 2 strokes of brush have shown me that my hands are too shaky for that kind of freehand. Then i matte'd and applied neon green in case i'd dislike the result and could wash it off>>98891341would be my submission but probably not up to snuff but i leave the judgement to collage anon. Excuse bad lightning. Could maybe do better with actual daylight also present
>>98891775>That's a mineral color that catalyzes the oxidation of the base oil.Huh. Neat.
Dark Eldar refresh is coming. I can feel it.
>>98891743It’s looks incredibly stupid, wild shirtless nogs running through the snow.
>>98891806I didn't want to say anything because it was too easy but having a bunch of superduper genetic aryan space men in hyper advanced armor watching two metropolitan black guys larping as vikings has some pretty funny connotations and I don't know what GW meant by this.
>>98891786I mean spooky skull head and flamer looks good to me
My heart is telling me to do my entry as a BA/SW hellblaster getting rekt by something spooky but I'm so tired of both schemes
>>98891806So, space wolves but melanated?
>>98891697It's an IdPol thing, you'd have to understand the intersectional worldview to understand why they do this.It requires a lot of doublethink and hypocrisy, I don't suggest reading into it and rejecting it outright instead. Any worldview that requires un-learning dictionary definitions and relying on dialectics and circular logic is not sound.>>98891725I'm of the same veinUrsula Creed on her own isn't bad, but then with how many characters have been women both on-table and in "the lore" since 2022 it makes the agenda too on-the-nose for me.Either way I'm going to keep playing my 80s power metal BDSM nuns with flamethrowers
>>98891341Here is my collage submission. Since Weirdboi is a psychic. And that bolt of energy. Plus decided to add a spooky accent with that blood and how his eyes popped out.
>>98891799Yeah, specifically it's a metal* mineral color. Manganese and iron I think? Metals catalyze the oil. Its what your commercial driers are. Some resin and a little bit of some metal mineral or other acting as a catalyst.
>>98891902Those can't be space wolves, they're chapter serfs or something, spaces wolves only recruit from Fenris which is an icy death world.
>>98891907The contrast king has arrived >>98891902Space Wolves are serious, groids are inherently unserious because they are akin to wild animals.
>>98891912An icy death world doesn't prevent joggers from existing upon it.
What space marine parts look good with hazard stripes? No pauldrons. So far I am thinking: -Chainsword covers-Perhaps bolter receivers?-Other armor plates on specific marines like hellblasters or eradicators. I like the idea of using the left shin for this purpose so far.
>>98891915Honestly Ork Flesh is still one of the best 1st wave's contrast paint. It still does that Middlehammer darker ork skin well. I really like it.
>>98891923jock strap
>>98891341Also abaut "Joke/reference" If it passes. Does a reference of a paint scheme of some artists OC that I like counts? Or do I need to say the reference it it's not mainsteam/obvious enough?
>>98891918Yes it does, they would have massive vitamin D deficiencies, unless you telling me the space wolves brought these guys from another planet to their planet for some reason.Which is kinda funny.
If they actively weren't just trying to do the "progressive" thing if destroying European culture by inserting brownies everywhere, they would do the respectful thing and make all black chapters recruit from black planets. Like Celestial Lions. Who have decent lore and are kinda cool, but for some reason are not featured at all.
>>98891936Slavery in the imperium would be logical
>>98891937The Primarch's geneseed would override their genetics, if you had a black aspirant become a raven guard they would turn into an albino white guy. Same for Salamanders.
I hate middlehammer ork skin
>>98891948not how it works
>>98891944Slavery in the Imperium would be redundant
>>98891937A bunch of pasty nerds in Nottingham trying to write specifically black/asian cultures is likely to end badly. You can end up like Marvel depicting spear-chucker stereotypes with a straight face, trying to be empowering.
>>98891944Do you understand what the word serf means
>>98891972Yea I’m agreeing with you
Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98891966I don't buy it. Just educate yourself, or you know, actually talk to someone from that culture. T. Researches other cultures to be racist more accurately
>>98891113actually their infantry is extremely good, like genuinely S tier, subductors are bonkers good. I think the problem with agents was actually not the book itself but the marketing. If GW had marketed the book as "the home for all your allies" instead "the first entirely new faction for 10th edition" the disappointment would have been significantly less. the problem is GW is weirdly incompetent at everything. like, STRANGELY bad at everything business related. if you have ever watched the sound continuously cut out of their live streams you understand how bad they are at everything that isn't art.So... no one told their marketing team "sell this as a bonus supplement". So the marketing team marketed it as a full army. To a noob in marketing who doesn't play the game and understand allies how are they supposed to know its only meant to be in army in the most vague, casual u supported, bonus extra fun sense and not actually a serious project?Then compound the fact they are bad at writing rules AND squatting an entire army in Deathwatch and you get an absolute disaster.
>>98891932hm... I think I'm going to have to disagree on that one...
>>98891979That works if you're writing about actual real life cultures and histories, but when you start inventing specifically black planets where we keep all the black people you can't really avoid being seen as a racist piece of shit company. It's not defensible as realistic, it just caters to the preferences of a particular part of the audience. Humanity spread across the stars and decided to segregate where they settled? The particular biomes were all far more uniform than Earth and eliminated all but a single race?
The collectors edition of the Custards codex is kino but it's smaller than a sheet of paper.
>>98892001>you can't really avoid being seen as a racist piece of shit companyBy people looking to invent reasons to see you as a racist piece of shit company.
>>98891982>infantry is extremely goodThey still lack serious anti-vehicle options. SoB have the same problem, but at least SoB have the Vahlgons crutch keeping them standing on one leg.3+ saves and 4+ invuln saves do not make me like your unit either.Having lots of infantry also makes the cost problem more evident. Needing to buy 1 $70-90 tank vs needing to buy 2 $60 boxes of infantry for the same point cost compounds more and more the larger the army you're playing.Agents genuinely just need an actual roster with actual units (Repressors for the Arbites would be a good start), or to be a supplement to any Imperium army like you said. This "half of both" approach is the source of the problem.If they went all-in on the supplement side, that could even open the way for Chaos and Xenos equivalents to actually have things like Demiurg and Gue'vesa auxiliaries for Tau, Ork Genestealers returning and Chaos Xenos being represented in-game.
>>98891936>they would have massive vitamin D deficienciesIt does not. Inuits have dark skin and don't suffer from vitamin D deficiencies.
>>98891553>new crisis suits>not a redone FUCKING DEVILFISHthose molds still have a 2001 copyright stamp on them. good lord>hazardous rolls on both the guns and movement of T5 vehiclesthis codex sounds like it's going to be another clunky fucking nightmare that's going to be re-written during the edition.
How much of a beta male you have to be to like vtubers
>>98892024Inuits live on a flat plane of ice. They have all the sun.
>>98892027I guarantee the Basilisk is going to make it through this edition; it's so "not good" that I think GW will just forget about it when they go through the guard list1995 vintage on that sprue. Eldar vehicles likely to stay as well, 1997 for them.
There are many ways to explain black people on basically any planet in 40k but GW does not like to think so their stupid fucking star wars planets with only one biome manage to have modern day american demographics despite migration being something that happens to you and not something you choose to do in the imperium
>>98891718>Classic Space Wolf Vikings on top>twink black bois on the bottomDid Tariq Nasheed make that picture?
>>98892023>They still lack serious anti-vehicle options. SoB have the same problemI find this so strange. For years SoB just kept up in the never ending codex creep due to their easy access of Meltaguns and Flamers.Seeing Meltas and flamer be such an ass weapon hurts
/40kpol/… It’s the biggest piece of dog shit that I’ve ever seen
>>98891982>subductors are bonkers good>Have previously told they are do nothing infantryWhich is accurate? Or are they just bad in SoB specifically?
>>98892038The earthshaker is the final bastion of cool angry skulls, holding out eternal against the ravening hordes of boring anatomically correct skull eaglesAnd honestly I wouldn't like to see a redesign of the devilfish, or the chimera or the wave serpent, all I want is an updated mould so it's not all ageworn and actually fits togetherSome accessories and gubbins in the vast empty spaces on the sprues would be nice, but I'd go without if it means we keep those lovely designs
>>98892023>If they went all-in on the supplement side, that could even open the way for Chaos and Xenos equivalents to actually have things like Demiurg and Gue'vesa auxiliaries for Tau, Ork Genestealers returning and Chaos Xenos being represented in-game.But that would require GW to do something actually cool, which is utterly impossible. They should also let auxiliaries use the main army rule, or get their own real army rule, none of this "the army rule is they can be allied in" bullshit. I can at least kind of understand why card games do this monofaction gimping because they put out so many different units that it probably makes balancing easier but in warhammer with a fraction of the number of units that's really no excuse.
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>>98892047They do it to insult their player base and beat them down mentally so as to be approving of wildling behavior, it’s abhorrent.
>>98892029>They have all the sun.Not for 10 months of the year during winter. Arctic summer is retardedly short.
>>98892023>selling rules without modelsI hear the last person to suggest that is still hanging from the sigmarine at nottingham
>>98892087They do this all the time in old world still
>>98892081>They do it to insult their player base and beat them down mentallyThis is only a problem if you waste your time reading dogshit that is black library.I am physically incapable of feeling sympathy or empathy for such retards.
>>98892062a devilfish/hammerhead that doesn't need an actual hammer to fit the pieces together would be a good start. it's mostly a datasheet issue with them though. a 1 shot big gun with a storm bolter defense weapon isn't keeping up with the current datasheets of other tanks.
>>98892050Flamers are still good, but SoB flamers are not the new flamers so they're a downgrade from marine ones. If Dominions got the SoS treatment (even still relying on the Immolator splits) they'd be a top-tier unit in current meta.Meltas are a casualty of the units you'd use meltas on getting powercreep in the toughness stat, coinflip invuln saves and too much movement on units you'd shoot with them. Making them s10 for SoB (like marines have on theirs) would help, but the t3 bodies holding them would still die instantly to the retaliation if you don't wipe your opponent's unit.>>98892062I put together a Chimera recently, it's from 2010. The ramp for the troop compartment needed a good bit of filing to fit all together because of mould issues. I can't imagine a 31 year old kit being easily assembled if a 16 year old one is already struggling that bad.I've said it before, I want the Russ and Chimera to get refreshed (as in new moulds) retaining as much of the old design aesthetic as possible. A redesign would take the wind out of my sails for my childhood army.>>98892068>that would require GW to do something actually cool, which is utterly impossibleTrue.GW already struggles to balance things in the same faction, they are deathly allergic to doing math or testing their game before releasing it.
>>98892107>it's from 2010Isn't that just the hellhound upgrade sprue? I was sure the chimera itself was a 90s sculpt
>>98892107>GW already struggles to balance things in the same faction, they are deathly allergic to doing math or testing their game before releasing it.I hate these retarded pissbabies so much. Literally the only task people are asking you to do is play the game you are making and make it not boring to play, it should not be this hard.
>>98892127A lot of the issues stem from removing FoC and the super strange idea that weapons gain different stats when someone else is holding them.
>>98892120The current Chimera is from 2010. The sprue says 2010 on it.The model itself is unchanged from 1995, so yes the sculpt is 31 years old; that's why you still get the Basilisk walkways in a Chimera kit. It was re-moulded in 2010 based on the 1995 sculpt, so we're both correct.>>98892127GW treats the tabletop like it's a live service video game, and that's the source of a lot of these problems.>constant intentional meta shifts with "time in the sun" reasoning>sporadic updates>using the playerbase as your QA>discontinuing the old thing and making it impossible to get toThis last one caveats with "legally, at least." Luv Waha, simple as.
>>98892107>I want the Russ and Chimera to get refreshedThe basically already did that. The Rogal Dorne and the new M3 Halftrack. The Russ and Chimera are on borrowed time. I bet they don't exist in 12th edition.
>>98892136I don't mind either particularly much but it would be easier to balance without ig. Force organization, while annoying to me at first, does have some charm to it in hindsight and it could definitely help with the huge skewing we have now. >>98892141>constant intentional meta shifts with "time in the sun" reasoningThey actually do this on purpose?>using the playerbase as your QAAnd they also don't even have the decency to distribute the digital rules competently.
>>98892144The Dorn is "heavy tank sitting at long distance," the Russ is "medium tank running aggressively forward" but also every other role a tank is in the guard.The Centaur is "light transport with next to no armament," the Chimera is "heavy transport to support infantry that came up in it."The Russ alone can't be replaced unless GW gives the Dorn 5 more turret options and halves its point cost.
>>98891578Oh God I'm so sorry. So were you born like it, or was there an accident?
>>98892154>They actually do this on purpose?Yea, it's to incentivize WAACfags and shitters to buy new armies instead of just new units to piecemeal into their existing armies.WAACfags because they only care about winningShitters because they lose a bunch with their armies and say "it's the tool's fault, not the user" and believe they would win if they bought the fotm army (they're usually right to a degree).>And they also don't even have the decency to distribute the digital rules competentlyPaywalling your rules and never telling people when they were changed is fine, what could you possibly mean? :^)Yea the app situation is fucked, everything about it is anti-player and bad. The only boon I'll give to the app is that it's easier to use your phone than to dig through a book quickly.
>>98891595God hand is better.
>>98892157I mean eldar have what,1 Artillery tank1 sit at a distance and direct fire tank with a single gun2 heavy transports.2 flavors of sentinel.1 Artillery emplacement with 3 guns.You can definitely cut the leman russ and half the vehhicles guard have without problems other than guard whining that they don't have 5x more vehicles than everybody.
>>98892178>The only boon I'll give to the app is that it's easier to use your phone than to dig through a book quickly.I honestly find the index at the end to be more useful than the app, much easier to navigate instead of jumping through menus. For digital rules, I just use wahapedia where everything's on a single page collated together.
>>98892154>They actually do this on purpose?Well during 6/7th edition the Eldar Wraith Knight was intentionally made undercoated for its abilities.Design team want to remove things to make it cheaper, but some corpo said to make it cheaper but keep all the abilities.There is a history of making shit intentionally broken. The thing is GW after 4th lost a lot of the guys that actually had an idea about how to make rules so how good this thing end being is not always the result GW expected.Something new is overpower? probably is intentional specially if it is too cheap point wise for what it does.
>>98892178>Shitters because they lose a bunch with their armies and say "it's the tool's fault, not the user"I got so many cheap models when GSC got that odd 70%ish winrate in a single event during 9th if I recall correctly
>>98892220The only units that aren't a waste of points on the table right now for guard are tanks; we don't have enough orders to go around for them as-is, but they're all costed like they have every order available at all times. Indirect fire weapons are a coinflip at best, and that's before counting invuln saves, so they're largely ignored. HWS are too squishy to do anything but be a mental deterrent for deepstrike. Infantry are too soft all-around unless they're named "Bullgryn Squad."We don't need to be cutting *anything* unless we get>Hippogriff Commander>Sentinel Commander>Basilisk CommanderAND a new aggressive tank to sit in the role of "damage-dealer but also able to take damage" that the Russ Battle Tank/Demolisher do. The Hippogriff is too squishy and too fast to take this role, the Dorn is too slow and too big and wants to sit back due to its armaments.Getting rid of the Russ would be an entire redesign of the guard.
>>98891341Out of time and ideas, so it's a messy model with worse glow, and isn't very spooky unless you're scared by the English, but here is my October collage submission.
Guys. Who is this soul that's going to start a civil war with the Marines?
>>98892247I really miss proper reference.Also I really hate that weapons now are not universal.Flamer is a flamer regardless if it is a marine, sister, guardsmen, eldar or ork using it
>>98892277Oops meant for >>98892238
>>98892263>Guard ask for 3 more units in exchange for one tankSounds a lot of entitled whining to me. Guard players are as bad as space marines when it comes to entitlement.
>>98892271My Inquisitor Kirito OC can beat a Custodian
>>98892294>1 unit does lots of things>if you remove that 1 unit, you need to give things to fill those roles or else you end up making a massive hole in the army>guardfags are just entitledAt least you know you're a disingenuous cockroach of a man.
>>98891341my submission
>>98892266try again, back up with your camera a bit
>>98891065>TQI bought all 4 assassins because they looked cool, planning to get an Exaction SquadI don't know if I'll ever play these guys, they just looks really cool
>>98892346Xeno Force could be a solution. 4 models vs the world could easily work.
>>98891341repostin' just to make sure
>>98892309Speaking of disingenuous cockroaches here we have someone pretending that there aren't like 50 different tanks available to the guard and that there's no redundancy in the army whatsoever.I know guard don't lose models or unit choices in codices but this looks really stupid if you look beyond your own book. Thankfully guardfags are pretty much the same anywhere you go on the internet.
>>98892364>50 different tanks>look inside>its just the same 3 tanks with different gunsWhat are you talking about exactly?I honestly doubt you are counting Leman russ with cannon as a totally different thing than Leman russ with brrrt gun.
>>98892178>Yea, it's to incentivize WAACfags and shitters to buy new armies instead of just new units to piecemeal into their existing armies.I mean... I guess that... kind of makes sense...>Paywalling your rules and never telling people when they were changed is fine, what could you possibly mean? :^)Don't forget paywalling them multiple times, making them difficult to cross-reference, and having said paywalled rules contradict themselves and be a buggy mess to boot.>The only boon I'll give to the app is that it's easier to use your phone than to dig through a book quickly.It really should be so easy. Like the part where all your available stratagems are laid out by phase is perfect. If only the rest of it could also be competently done...>>98892247>The thing is GW after 4th lost a lot of the guys that actually had an idea about how to make rulesMass layoffs or something?>>98892277Flamers and maybe melta weapons are the only thing this works for though, and even that is kind of dubious. Marines are going to carry bigger bolters than sisters. A hulking ork is going to swing a sword far harder than a wiry banshee. Eldar in general are going to use different, magical, and probably better shit in their heat based weapons. Everyone makes their chainswords differently. And that's just the lore problems. Universalizing weapon stats causes even more problems on tabletop, honestly, and is going in the opposite direction of good balance. Doing so makes it far more difficult to have each faction be good at the niche that draws in their players while also making them suitably worse at other stuff to compensate.
>>98891553It's bullshit but I believe it.
>>98891553I've been hearing those same basic rumors for multiple editions now. What makes you think this time will be different?
>>98891357I've mentioned this before, but why is it that women who are into tabletop games always present themselves as obsessive experts who have been playing since alpha and have won every tournament ever? They're never just normal, regular people
>>98892385>Mass layoffs or something?No, original crew mostly fuck off to do other things. The few old guard that stay clearly needed the other guys to at least guide them>A hulking ork is going to swing a sword far harder than a wiry banshee.Ah you have not seen how older weapons worked?For example Sword was S User AP3. What it made the difference was the user.Ork would be S4 A2 so the sword would end being a S4 AP3 A2Banshee was S3 A5 soo S3 AP3 A5. Same weapon very different use cases.Guns worked rather similarPlasma guns the main difference was the user. Plasma gun being hold by a marine hitting on 3+ vs a guardsmen hitting on 4+ made a massive difference. Since plasma used to explode having the gun on body with a Sv3+ vs one with Sv5+.Also Bolters in marines hands and humans hands are not that different to justify an entire stat line. There is a reason why Bolters used to have Pistol, Storm, Bolter and Heavy Bolter versions.Adding a variation of Bolter for humans and marines forces the game to add another variation for their smaller and bigger versions too. Adding complexity for complexity sake with no real added benefit.
>>98892385>A hulking ork is going to swing a sword far harder than a wiry banshee.If only there were some kind of statistics that captured a model's Strength... Hmmm... I think this might be an insurmountable problem...
Finally, an army I can relate to, an army that represents my body type
>>98892436I find it so strange that GW still uses those model for their publication. The models are not great, but they are not as bad as those images show
>>98892428>Ah you have not seen how older weapons worked?>For example Sword was S User AP3. What it made the difference was the user.>Ork would be S4 A2 so the sword would end being a S4 AP3 A2>Banshee was S3 A5 soo S3 AP3 A5. Same weapon very different use cases.>>98892429So it's additive? That works fine. That's still an entirely different thing than "a weapon is the same no matter who uses it"(a dumb idea). Adding individual stats to weapon stats to create a suitably unique profile that's easily read does seem way better though, yeah. I presume they moved away from this to bloat codexes more and make thicker books to justify the insane prices.
Why do people get into this series literally known for the term grimdark, then go "oh, oh my heckin yikes, they killed civilians, including children? That's too much for me"I see it a lot.
>>98892445Can’t beat perfection.
>>98891553Can mostly corroborate from loose lipped goons, though we may have the same source
>>98892453i never seen this before. i think you’re just making enemies in your head to fight
>>98892453Because GW portrays them that way unironically in a lot of their secondary media.
I don't care who is in the hobby as long as they paint their minis and shower regularly enough Also anyone got some homebrew rules for exodite models? I keep looking at dinosaurs and saying that'd be cool as fuck for a weapons platform
>>98892428In their race to the bottom to make the game as easy as possible for people to play, GW has created issues with balancing and faction flavor that didnt exist before. Yeah, before 9th ed its generally to say 40k was never balanced, but now the flaws with their current philosophy on stats and statlines are really showing themselves.To use that anon's own example, yeah, an Ork has always hit harder than a Banshee. But a Banshee attacked QUICKER, and with the Initiative stat Eldar would often ensure the attacked before slower, stronger enemies like Orks. A Banshee would also be more proficient with their melee weapons than an Ork, so it was harder for the Ork to hit an Eldar in melee than it would be for them to hit something like a space marine.Now with the statlines since 8th edition its more likely that whoever gets the charge will just pick up the other unit. The game as it plays out on the table is really uninteresting now and leave armies that traditionally relied on being fast and lithe as just being weak punching bags.
>>98891071
>>98892413>why is it that women who are into tabletop games always present themselves as obsessive experts who have been playing since alpha and have won every tournament ever?Because it lets them claim authority and their moral system encourages dishonesty when it gains their ideology power. It's fundamentally like lying for Jesus if the bible had a clause actively encouraging it.
Everyone hates 50/50 invuln saves on everything especially when you use a low shot but high S, AP, D, Giga cannon. Instead I've seen the idea floating around that invulns be changed to reduce AP like AoC. So using those new rules, athing with a 2+ 2++ works like this: Against Ap1,2 it saves on 2+. Against Ap 5 it saves on a 5+. 4+ 2++ would have AP1,2 save on 4+ while Ap 3 saves on 5+. I feel like that's a better way to represent extremely armoured units. Invulns representing things like void shields and the like is better represented in wound roll manipulation IMO.
>>98892413I've never encountered a female one of these guys.
>>98892479The Islam has a clause for that. Well, one of the hadiths that is accepted by both sunni and Shia does.
>arms mounted on flats>interchangeable headhell yeah
>>98892451>"a weapon is the same no matter who uses it"(a dumb idea).Have you ever used a weapon? A pistol is a pistol regardless who uses it. Same with a sword.The difference is mostly behind the skill of the user.Guy training every day with the same pistol will shoot it better than the new guy, but the damage will be the same. Main difference will be how reliable they damage something Sword same thing, the edge will cut you regardless but using it properly will make the difference. Also there is an example of weapons. If you looked at for example an Autocannon it would be the same Autocannon if a marine, ork, tau, eldar, ganger, sister, guard or necron hold it. granted some didn't have the weapon like the necrons, but if necron got hold of an autocannon it would be the same As a result if a random said I'm shooting my Autocannons you would know exactly what the fuck the gun is going to do and at best worry about the hit roll and maybe some special rule like the Tau marker lights.Is not like you can't make variants, but when you hear Autocannon you expect the 48" S7 AP4 Heavy 2, just because the Autocannon is on a Defilar or a truck it should not change its stat line.
I miss looted vehicle rules. I wish they'd quit removing faction flavor for balancing shit they'll just nerf 2 weeks later
>>98892486I think replacing invulns with FNP might be an interesting idea
>>98892486Some le ebin heroes can have it but when regular unnamed infantry gets 4++ it's shit. I can damage a super heavy tank but good like killing one guy.
>>98892475I still play 3rd/4th from time to time and the random I5 power weapon my GSC with 3 attacks on a charge really surprises I4 or armies
>>98892326Are we allowed to submit models more than once?
>>98892490IIRC that clause is for lying about your faith specifically. I.e. you can pretend not to be a Muslim to avoid persecution. Though whether it's applied that way is another story.
>>98892496Thats most eldar models desu, pray Jes and one of his last gifts
>>98892524Do GSC have 4th edition rules? Can I have them?
>>98892059they are the best tar pitters for cost in the game
>>98892475Initiative specifically is a good mechanic and it's kind of baffling that they dropped it, and now the way fight order is handled is so fucking bad...
>>98892500I don't think you have used a weapon lol >>98892500>A pistol is a pistol regardless who uses it. Same with a sword.Again, a guy who is 8 feet tall and 600+ pounds is going to use a bigger gun and sword than a normal-ass human. Swords particularly are a terrible example because people skill directly translates into raw damage due to superior edge alignment and technique producing a deeper cut, though even guns can be viewed similarly because someone with better aim will hit a more lethal spot. >>98892500>Just because the Autocannon is on a Defilar or a truck it should not change its stat line.You just restated your "point" without refuting anything I said. Lorewise this is retarded because every faction has their gear made by different people. Gamewise this is retarded because every faction needs to have different stats to be unique and fun. Why is this so difficult for you to grasp?
>>98892537Citadel journal 40 and 41 and imperial guard regimental doctrines.Those are the official ones. I used a mix of the journal and generic doctrines to mimic a 9th gac army
>>98892500>just because the Autocannon is on a Defilar or a truck it should not change its stat line>implying guns on different vehicles can't be different sizes/gauges>implying a defiler couldn't have for eg. Chaos infused roundsNot the abon you're arguing with but your imagination seems a little limited my friend.
>>98892568>Again, a guy who is 8 feet tall and 600+ pounds is going to use a bigger gun and sword than a normal-ass human.In reality yes but this is warhammer where a bolt gun is a bolt gun and a chainsword is a chainsword no matter who uses it.
>>98892554Try explaining Initiative to a 10th edition baby and you'll see very quick why GW thought they had to get rid of it.
>>98892568>Again, a guy who is 8 feet tall and 600+ pounds is going to use a bigger gun and sword than a normal-ass human.Ah I'm in reddit territory.All your point are refuted if you played 40k and not Nu 40k.The same exact weapon for everyone did not turn everyone into a slob.Or you going to say sister and marines are the exact same thing because their boltguns are both 24" S4 AP5 Rapid1?
>>98892578Not enough to be relevant at a wargame level.Not even historical go this autistic for slightly different guns.
>>98892580That is explicitly not what happens in warhammer. >>98892588Too complicated?
>>98892599They have a different statline between human and astartes boltguns. It's up to GW how relevant they want it to be.
>>98892620>That is explicitly not what happens in warhammerHow would you know? You own no models and haven't played a single match. You watch AI genned lore shorts and think that makes you a part of this hobby
>>98892631Alright settle down hall monitor
>>98892271Valdor
>>98892620>Too complicated?>InitiativeIn 9th edition players complained about having trouble understanding Fights First and Fights Last mechanics so they had to get rid of Fights Last and that was way simpler than initiative.
>>98892631>resorting to writing fanfiction this quickly I mean I didn't exactly expect this to be hard but you really just gave up huh? Anyways, screenshot of the sister's codex readily available in this very thread which tells you outright that Sisters use their own version of bolter. Maybe if you actually had read any of the codexes you would have known that already.
>>98892534I meant more that it wasn't like a special character where the shoulder is molded into the paulron which is part of the chest attached to a leg
>>98892686Show me the pre-8th statlines on both boltguns.
>>98892676>be GW >makes one of the most autistic games on the planet for people who are willing to sit at a table and roll dice for hours on end for fun >still decides to dumb down rules "to make the game more accessible" o algo >still refuses to make the game more accessible for the actual target demo by not raising prices every single yeartruly a fascinating company
>>98892696So at first you were arguing that the modern statlines must be wrong because weapons should all be the same, and now you want to argue that because the statlines were the same in the past that means that that's the proper way to do things. Sounds like you don't have any actual reasoning at all and are just want things to be the way they were "back in the good old days." Why don't you get off the damn computer and go outside for once instead gramps? Or you can continue writing fanfiction about anonymous strangers online and ranting about "back in my day." It's your life I guess.
>>98892702It's always maddening when they try to "streamline the game" by removing fun and flavorful options and mechanics. Like, it's still nowhere close to being any kind of simple or elegant. It's always going to be a cumbersome game to play with long play times for casual players. If people are going to play 4 hour games they might as well have fun moment-to-moment experiences and not just a nebulous victory to inch towards point by arbitrary point.
>>98892719>So at first you were arguing that the modern statlines must be wrong because weapons should all be the sameDifferent person dipshit
So is this decalfag arguing or is there another lost redditor?
>>98892570Thanks, GW please buff Magus
>>98892720>If people are going to play 4 hour games they might as well have fun moment-to-moment experiencesWhich is why Old World and Battletech are superior games to modern 40k which just feels like a competitive boardgame rather than a wargame
>>98892696Ntab why are you so autistic to keep up this pointless bickering about different weapon profiles? You've been going on about this for some time now>Black Crusade published 2011>different stats for human and astartes boltgunsInb4>n-not the wargame!Don't care bitch nigger still official GW
>>98892453Why won't GW/BL show space marines torching an orphanage in graphic detail because a Nurgling was found in a crib eating babies?
What am I supposed to do with 14 leftover genestealer heads?
>>98892722No reason to hop into the conversation unless he's also on that person's side. Unless this is just a completely new level of "man yells at cloud" but I didn't expect things to be THAT bad
>>98892733You must not be able to read because theres only one bolter profile there and its for anyone using a boltgunFuck youre even dumber than decalfag
>>98892744Wait holy shit you really do need everything highlighted in red for you. Lmfao
>>98892739Base decorations for your other armies
>>98892739Give them to your friends to make base trophies and such.
>>98892740>No reason to hop into the conversation unless he's also on that person's side.Oh I'm sorry I didn't realize your faggot ass gets to decide what conversations I do or dont add to
>>98892744>theres only one bolter profile thereI don't even know how to argue against this level of blind and stupid. Are we fr?>Bolter>Legion Bolter
Which faction is the saddest and most grief-stricken? Does anyone top the Blood Angels?
>>98892720GW decision makers are just downies ig. It just boggles the mind.
>>98892568>Again, a guy who is 8 feet tall and 600+ pounds is going to use a bigger gun and sword than a normal-ass human.According to the RPG books, main difference between a marine and non-marine bolter is the quality of construction and ergonomics, but all of them were said to be the same .75 caliber. HH Black Books make plenty of the marine bolters have smaller caliber. So how tiny are non-marine bolters suppose to be? Munitorum Manual indicates bolters have a heavy recoil and require a strong individual to wield one. If bolters for humans were made different, why couldn't they make them usable by all? Besides, bolters predate marines. They were used by humans for thousands of years before marines came to the scene.
>>98892486They should just replace them with “Shielding X” keyword that gives you a 1 or 2 (whatever works out better in testing,) point damage reduction on a save roll of X. So like Terminators would have “Shielding 4+”That way they’d still effectively have a invuln save against small saturation attacks on a 4+ but a lascannon or melta will still punch through some damage, think like they’re dissipating some while going through a Bladeguard Vet’s shield.
>>98892752Well if you are bitching at me for an entirely different reason than the other guy you could at least mention what that reason is. You don't get to hop into an anonymous conversation sounding exactly like someone else, arguing on the same side of the argument as someone else, and then get mad when people assume you are that someone else.
>>98892753Anon i know you're a zoomer that didnt touch 40k until at least 10th edition, but legion bolters are something else. Space Marines and sisters of Battle used BOLTERS
>>98892752Ntab yeah you sound like a total bitch and give loser energy>I'm gonna jump into this convo on one person's side but then claim I wasn't on their side when I start losing that'll show em!
>>98892733One anon did mention that not even historicals are this autistic.No one is saying they can't be different in the lore, but mechanics wise there is no reason to make a distinction in a wargame.On RPG you can have the luxury or even in a small scale game with just 4 models per side, but even then I can't even recall a wargame that does it like nu 40k.I mean even in WWii the rifles of the Japanese, Americans and Germans are noticeable different, but try to find a wargame where they go into mechanically difference for them in the rules
>>98892755Eldar
>>98892773You cannot be this dense dude. Are you actually single digit iq are you just being this tarded on purpose for "le truls"?
>>98892702>makes one of the most autistic games on the planet lmao no gw has always been beer and pretzels light gameplay.
>>98892777Eldar, as sad as they are, would never be suicidally sad like Dante.
>>98892755The Iron Hands' whole shtick is crippling body dysmorphia and unhealthy coping mechanisms. The Black Rage is more like a degenerative mental illness than a grief process.
>>98892775Right, just because other wargames don't do it means GW has to step in line? I'm not trying to defend James being stupid, they consistently are, but if they want to buff astartes weapons to make them feel more "superhuman" it's their game and so entirely their prerogative. Who gives a flying fuck what "everyone else" is doing? If your friends all jumped off a cliff...
>>98892753The difference is +9 vs +5. Mechanically speaking it would only matter versus unarmored target.
>>98892739Glue them to Genestealers for 2-3 headed versions, alternatively use putty to graft them into some bigger monster.
>>98892759At best this shows things being a gray area. Marines are always going to get the best stuff in terms of ammo and other qualities, and the same principle still applies to melee weapons(and likely flamers and meltas since marines can carry bigger ones). I don't even particularly mind if they do make marine bolters and sisters bolters the same, what I do mind is the assertion that they *should* be the same. If they do it for balance reasons, w/e. 40k stats by nature have a low-resolution reflection of the "lore power" of a weapon. But by the same token, there are also plenty of good reasons to make them different for balance reasons, and this guy tarding out about how they all have to be the same has no legs to stand on in either lore or balance.
>>98892774>>98892769Wah wah wah nigga go cry about it to someone who cares fucking baby
>>98892786The fact that you can drink alcohol while doing something does not make it a normie activity. Normies do not want to roll dice and move around tiny statues for hours on end. >>98892787Eh.... maybe>>98892790He's not necessarily referring to the black rage
>>98892791No. Making the difference in a D6 system is just retarded, even in D10 D100 like dark heresy the difference is eaten up by the base toughness mechanic.Game mechanically is not granular enough for the feelings of marine players.
>>98892796Okay? There's still a difference.>>98892804Crying already, completely lost and bitch-made. Baby need his bottle? Maybe you can borrow a diapie off the mutant
Which color palette do you guys like? Top or bottom. Camera makes the top colors look a little washed. Top supposed to be purple, chartreuse, dark yellow, ochre yellow, then like an off-white, Wraithbone if you will.
>>98892809You're still missing the point. There are many many other wargames that are significantly more autistic than 40k. Games Workshop games have always been light, that its postured as competitive in the last decade is funny but when people post things like its the most autistic or something are very out of touch.
>>98892817Definitely the bottom for nids. Looks more biological.
>>98892802>I do mind is the assertion that they *should* be the sameOne of the issues of the stat creep is that now the basic marine bolter is shooting like a heavy bolter. (Not exactly the same, please do not be reddit)
>>98892802>I do mind is the assertion that they *should* be the same.That I can agree. Considering the Godwyn-De'az is suppose to be superior to other bolters. Clearly SoB should have the best ones.
>>98892818>There are many many other wargames that are significantly more autistic than 40k.No, you're missing the point. The concept of "a tabletop wargame" is in itself autistic. It doesn't matter how other wargames compare.
>>98892817I like the top more but that's partially because it looks a bit washed out. I think it has more cohesion regardless but the only thing killing the bottom one is the brown imo.
>>98892811Pretending not to understand? In a D100 system the greatest difference is 4 points. So this obviously mean in a d6 with even less variances marines should have a totally different gun than the rest.Mind you that 4. Point difference is just to distinguish the quality of the gun, both are shooting the same size bullets
>>98892828Then don't write stupid shit like >one of the most autistic games on the planet
>>98892822Ty for you opinion anon. I'm going to get a couple warrior test models going once I get them stripped, will try the bottom palette in a couple variations I'm thinking of.
>>98892823I don't even care about the stat stuff anymore but are you ESL or something? >>98892825Lmfao Sure, if you want to wank sisters that bad talk GW into it. Tell em that sisters are too weak and they should buff their bolters with the holy light of the emperor guiding them to the weak points in the enemy's armor or something.
>>98892810>Making the difference in a D6 system is just retarded>>98892791>I'm not trying to defend James being stupidIt's like you're not reading posts and just want to be mad, but I'm trying to tell you it's stupid to be so upsetti over something that's happened and you can't change. Astartes and human boltguns have different profiles, that much is both fact and clearly intentional design by GW. Just because OtHeR wArGaMe doesn't change things. This whole little histrionic episode over it doesn't change things. Maybe play another game if it gets you this cranky pants
>>98892828Think you are fighting with like 4 different anons here.
>>98892832What color would you use instead of brown? Pic rel was my inspiration for the bottom palette but I'll do it a little differently with where the colors go.
>>98892835How many wargames do you think there are in the world compared to millenial exploding kittens and cards against humanity knockoffs? (Hint: not a lot)
>>98892836Yellow can also be a biological color but in nature we tend to associate it with nice cozy things like flowers or sunlight, which is why I don't think the top palette would work as well.
>>98892809Dante is sad because he's old as dirt and isn't allowed to retire. The Blood Angels in general seem to be generally fine apart from the ones who are distressed by the Red Thirst. >>98892755The Raven Guard are notoriously a bunch of morose bastards, and Necrons are all various flavors of mentally unwell and only function by finding ways to distract themselves from their condition.
>>98892832>>98892822Pic rel was the inspo for the top palette, again I'd just place the colors a differently.
>>98892841I'm fighting the US department of education and their inability to teach reading comprehension.
>>98892847Anon, I'm telling you this has been a thing since at least 2011. Acting like it is new is dumb, derailing half a thread to bitch about it (for at least the second time this year) is dumb. Maybe get your cortisol levels checked and an autism diagnosis while you're at it
>>98892837>should buff their bolters with the holy light of the emperor guiding them to the weak points in the enemy's armor or something.Anon... please play or at least read the rules >>98892277Divine guidance was a thing. It allowed bolters to ignore 2+ saves
>>98892843That is way out of my league if you're aiming for something that well done. I think the brown works there and is significantly better than anything I can do so recognize the skill involved but have an aesthetic dislike of brown. The purple being the chitenous colour going from lighter to darker or vice versa for the bony plates would look good too and skipping the brown, I think it would be more about if you want the colour to go with the blueish hues or the bone hues.
>>98892859I accept your consecion.Weapons should be the same and GW needed the old guard to wrangle the retards
>>98892787Eldar have to deal with the things like>Almost never win a conflict, disturbingly so>Any conflict won is a stupidly pyrrhic victory, to the point you wonder how the Eldar have a population to sustain all these losses and still have a race>Their big bad unit (Avatar of Khaine) has been the punching bag for any faction that needs x character to look threatening>Exodites have more maiden worlds losted that are destroyed/eaten/stolen, than actually lived on>Ynnari shelved like the Leagues of Votaan and everyone has apparently split off so we aren't likely to see anything there>Wraithbone is no longer sung into existenceLorewise, Id say Lamenters get close.
>>98892852Nice cozy things like animals that come with natural hazard stripes.
>>98892865Mine won't be anywhere as close to that either, but I use a lot of oils so transitions and blends like that are significantly easier. I see what you mean with the purple, might be good too. Ill see what I can mix up. TY for your input anon!
>>98892844Oh I get it, you're a troll pretending to be retarded but also being retarded in a way you're too retarded to notice on account of the retardation. 2/10 got a reply.
this is grand
>>98892869Lmao sure, I concede this autismo shitflinging episode but you still lost because astartes weapons stats are still going to be different and there's nothing your impotent ass can do but wail like a baby on an irrelevant imageboard
>>98892855I do like the colour more here, feels more like a bug and less like a mutant but if you're going for an Alien 4 vibe the brown flash shading could work. >>98892878Post it when you're happy with it, always cool to see what people get up to.
>>98892860you are such a fucking idiot. I am regretting ever opening this website.
>>98892787???
>>98892899You got it boss
any real ass niggas here?
>no rebukeGuess it is decalfag
>>98892903That's easy to fix and solve everyone's problem.
dat bitch horus? id beat dat niggas ass if i was in the heresy
Is there a place where I can check the all the older miniatures?
>>98892960Google
>marines and sisters bolters are different because...because they just are ok!
The ritualposts I can get as some form of OCD/strong 'tism. The random ebonics and femboy posting I don't understand. They obviously don't stir anyone up because nobody bothers to reply. What's the point of shitposting when it's so obvious that nobody takes the bait?
>calls an end to the shit flinging>Shifts into his niggersona
>>98891065>How about them Imperial Agents?I just realized that one trivial thing that bugs me is that their codex contained no references to Dark Heresy. Nothing about Calixis or Askellon. For shame.
>>98892960Lexicanum has portal:miniatures for all factions with release dates.
>>98892960How old?Between Lost Minis Wiki, Collecting Citadel Miniatures, and the Stuff of Legends a lot of the 80s and 90s stuff is catalogued00s mostly, but since 2010 nobody seems to give a shit that there are like four different sprues of Intercessors kicking about plus a 3-man sprue in the painting sets or whatever.
perturabo is a bitch ass nigga. i wouldve whopped his ass if i saw him
>>98892969>What's the point of shitpostingIts not that deep. Most people aren't pondering their activities and considering if they line up with goals, interests or systems of thought. They just have an idea and post it without thinking it through or see a thing and respond. Or its sleeper cell activation codes, hard to tell sometimes.
Who cares lorelet
>>98892984he's a coward that left his brothers when they were about to win terrahe is a failure
>>98892978nta but here's the link for those interested https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Portal:Miniatures
>lose like a little bitch to multiple anons telling you how you're stupid>better whip out my niggerisms, that'll show em!
>>98892991It's not so much about goals/interests and more about time. Like why are you wasting minutes, hell even hours of your life doing these pointless shitposts when they're not even getting (you)s lmao
>>98892993those niggas deserved. lying bitch ass nigga heretics. play stupid games win stupid prizes
>>98893007Nigga I get paid $64 an hour to shitpost here all day
>>98893016fr nigga? help a nigga out? i make only $30 dollahs an hour
>>98893016Doing what?
>>98893022LEO
>>98893016I too do most of my posting while on the clock
>>98893024Oh, you're one of them...
i hate the traitor primarchs. fake ass niggas. they lucky i wasnt there during the heresy
>>98892967bigger gun shoot harder
>>98893052ugly ass primaris niggas. we firstborn only up in this bitch
except fulgrim, thats one fine looking ass right there. he lucky I wasn't there to stretch it out.
>>98893052Bolters arent Bolt Rifles.
>>98893055i remember you nigga. we went to the same penitentiary. they called you skittles
>>98893052What the hell are they feeding those SoBs? Primaris marines are like 8 feet tall, aren't they?
>>98893063feeding them primaris geneseed
>>98893063i feed those sistahs of bitches my big hive scum cock
>>98893063That's just Gulliman propaganda. Marines are clearly 7' at most. Firstborn rejects were 5'5.
This ham in my sandwich sure tastes like spam
if a commissar tried to shoot me, id fuck that nigga up and take his bolt pistol. then take dat niggas hat, coat, and shoes
Decided to ditch hellblasters and did something more fun. Just dry fitting for now gonna clean up the lines and stuff too
>>98893100god speed
>>98893100>ditch hellblastersThey are notoriously difficult, hard to do within a year. Very cool diorama though
>>98893007You're still being too rational about it. They're not concerned about efficiency or not 'wasting' time, those would be goals and interests and trying to align them in long term consistent ways. Its making noise for the fun of it and to see if anything happens. If it doesn't work its not important to them either. Its really not that deep.
>>98893100Should've made it a CSM and put some IG helmets and stuff on the spooky scary skeletons.
>>98893115Shit that would have been nice. Don't have nearly enough IG bits though
>>98893113>literal monkeys dumbly banging things together to see what noise it makesI see, the mind of a stunted manchild truly is baffling. I mean typically at least an animal will try something, see what it do and then cease if nothing interesting occurred, so it is still fascinating these ones keep going despite no return stimulus
>>98893127I think a helmet on one or two guys, maybe a shoulder pads or a canteen on the hip is enough. Just something to make it clear they're Imperials.
>>98893074If the Imperium forgot how to measure a year who can really trust them to know how long a meter is, let alone a "foot". For all you know a foot is measured by Goge Vandire's sweaty insoles.
Any better options for doing AL colors, I picked up the vallejo hydra turquoise metallic to try it on my vehicles and dreads and such since I can't get speed paints to work on big flat surfaces properly, and my normal scheme is bright silver with speed paint on top It's just a little too dark for me compared to my usual scheme
>>98892738Well yeahI mean I get why they won't make the civilian genocide plastic model, but they're too soft in the novels
>>98893181>reads marineslop>surprised when it's written for lowest common denominator
>>98893134They do that. Shitposting fads come and go, you'll learn to recognize them if you stay longer. Some animals are flat out retarded though.
>>98893181You should read "Wrath of Iron" by Chris Wraight. It's nominally about Iron Hands purging a Slaanesh-corrupted hive city but the real conflict is between them and their Guard and Titan Legion allies
>The flambouyant space marines fell to the chaos god of being a weird sex freakWhat did James mean by this?
The XV26 stealth suit team has increased in price twice WITHOUT going back in stock since it was first released
>>98893211
>>98893217Why would you want them. Just keep using your XV15s and XV25s.
>>98891341I am once again asking for a "Tanksgiving" theme, in addition to any poll victory, for vehicle painting.
>>98893211I look like this and do this
>>98893223I want the entire range
>>98891220lmao, this gaynigga Lion-O be waddlin' like he's got a buttplug in and a full diapey.
>>98891272More like DRAGAN DEEZ NUTS ACROSS YO MOUF
>>98893063Regular humans can be naturally tall as long as they've got good genes and are healthy. SoB get the best equipment and some of the strictest training in the Imperium and maybe also some roids.
>>98893224It's a great idea. Gonna do a csm rhino if it gets approved.
>>98893202I've been around a long time, I've just never witnessed such monkey banging cymbals activity here on /tg/. It feels like /b/ and /pol/ residents escaped their compounds and are running rampant over the rest of the site these days
>>98893224>>98893231>I am once again asking for a "Tanksgiving" themeI'd say that falls under "joke/reference"
I've got it narrowed down to 2 brosEither Necrons or Imperial Agents Necrons look really cool, are easy to paint, I like their reanimate mechanic and no bitch ass routing IA also look cool as fuck, especially Exaction Squads, and I'm having fun painting them, but I don't want to gimp myself by playing a not real army, not looking to be competitive but at least not die instantly.
>>98892969>because nobody bothers to replyYou made this post addressing it, didn't you? You've just given them motivation to keep going for another 38.5 threads.
>>98893230>regular women can be as tall as Yao Ming regularly enough for that to be the height of the mini intended to represent an average Sister
>>98893235
>women play tyranids>men play sisters of battleReally would've thought the opposite
>>98893245Anyone know where I could source some loli SoB?
>>98893235People think too narrowly and specific with the themes. I see too many>will X/Y/Z be allowed!?Posts, fools the theme is very loose, collageanon is chill and rarely rejects models. Rather than thinking, "does my model fit the theme?" you should be thinking "how do I argue the theme fits my model?"
>>98893253>Men like women>Women like horrible monstersSeems about right to me.
>>98893155>For all you know a foot is measured by Goge Vandire's sweaty insoles.Something like that.
>>98893273>height starts at 2'Typical GW quality.
>>98893244There have canonically been sisters who were tall enough to look a firstborn marine in the eye and this was before Primaris. And you act like tall women don't exist irl.
>>98893287Do you not know what the word average means?
>>98893267GW has really trained em well, aye.>mommy GW may I PLEASE PLEASE PLEEEEEEEEEEASE use the models I bought from you last month?
>>98893287Outliers do not disprove the rule.
>>98893235I require OFFICIAL RECOGNITION
>>98893253Cool dudes play both
>>98893297>>98893304lmao
>>98893306Yeah, women are pretty cool
why sanguinius be looking so zesty
>>98893336id fuck that fruity ass nigga if he went on estrogen. no homo tho
>>98893313>women are pretty coolThey literally can't be. It's objective canon.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2IX81ZaMohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci6tOkA75Xc
>>98893336>>98893384I dunno ask /hhg/
>>98893385Yeah not clicking your jewtube links, buy an ad. Women are cool
>>98893387id beat the fuck out of you. bitch ass nigga. im a primarch. you a servitor
How are your collage projects going, procrastinator chads? I'll be painting the plasma itself tomorrow, and I'm thinking I might give my night lord some blood spatter.
>>98893396uh oh xoomxoom melty
>>98893253I am both. The women I know play nids, drukhari, and sob. All well painted. Don't really care about the game much but good painters.
>>98893399Don't get your programming socks in a twist, lil HHbuck
>>98893414you a fat balding bitch ass loser. id fuck your shit up nigga. im a primarch. you a servo skull
>>98891065How do I get a good white coverage? Light grey alternatives? I can make an off white but that's best as just the basecoat. And Ivory always seems out of stock at my local store. Second question but similar to the first with red. Wine Red is still too dark as a base coat & Blood Red hasn't gotten any better coverage on it. Should a red brown mix help as a basecoat instead?
>>98893423Use ProAcryl titanium white
>>98893396Foid commissars are fucking awful characters and I have no idea why the hacks at BL can't make one that's actually well-written. Meanwhile foid Inquisitors are crazy good and memorable. Did they give all the good writers to the Inquisition or something?
>>98893423Why anon, just buy the new Games(tm) Workshop(tm) tone(tm) pro(tm) semen(tm) white(tm) paint(tm)! You're not a REAL gamer if you haven't bought any tone(tm) pro(tm) and reviewed them on here and every online platform you visit. You wouldn't want to be a lorelet, would you?
>>98893432It's because Inquisitors are supposed to be power-abusing bitchy cunts, so it's the perfect role for a foid
>>98893429Better coverage? Is it shiny?
>>98893432Because the kind of person who thinks "we need to make more women commisairs" is incapable of writing good characters.
>>98893423A very light grey or off white is gonna read as white next to other colors, especially darker colors. If you want the blinding pure white look, I’d still do a off white as a base/under coat since most white paints have shit coverage. Pro-Acryl’s white is pretty good coverage wise but I think it has a weird texture when it drys.
>>98893439No you asked how to get a good coverage of white so I suggested a white that has bad coverage what are you fucking stupid of course it has good coverage
>>98893432>Foid commissars are fucking awful charactersThe Dorktide one is fine. Nothing great or memorable, but fine.>Did they give all the good writers to the Inquisition o algo?Yes, inquisition BL novels are always better than marine/guard books
>>98893442I do need a light grey anyway.>>98893443Well there's no need to be rude. It could be about the same for all I know.
>>98893437Not to mention that female Inquisitors just look cooler. There was also that one Inquisitor from the Greyknights game and she was great.
>>98893445>The Dorktide one is fineShe's easily the worst NPC of the bunch. Inoffensive as you said, but in a game full of actually decent to full on fun female characters she sticks out like a inoffensively bland and boring sore thumb.
>>98893449Witch Hunter in space is such a damn good look, yeah. It's a shame most of the actual Inquisitor minis look more like budget space marines instead.
>>98893461I'm not even the first anon you were replying to, I'm just saying she's bland as fuck. Bland isn't good. Bland isn't even fine, especially in a horde shooter where I have to listen to this bitch yap in my ear with her absolutely nothing as fuckall statements.
I touched some resin and now I have a cough. Is it over for me
>>98893483Bruh I got bathed in that shit when someone sent a massive order of improperly cured terrain, I’m fine and so are you.
>>98893493>The techpriest gives nothing as fuckall statements with a side of condescension. >The pilot gives nothing as fuckall statements at a rate of 1000 words per minute.Even your attempts to be disingenuous don't fly because you can't help but include those characters' personalities. A haughty techpriest calling me Varlet or Morrow trying to balance his Guard upbringing with Inquisitorial glow-ops are far more entertaining than "Da 234th Guard endures" for the umpteenth time. She may not be as obnoxiously bad as proper GW girlbossisars, but she's easily the worst character in all of Darktide and I always hate it when she's on the vox for that mission.Speaking of disingenuous>you just want to seethe and hate on womenFunny how desperate you are to cram me into a box instead of engaging honestly when I'm praising all the other female characters in Darktide. Brahms wanting all these fucking FREAKS off her ship is great, Masosi being able to pick and prod at people is great, Hadron's disdain for organics and singlemindedness on securing tech from Atoma is great, and so on. Dukane sticks out so much BECAUSE she's such a step down from everyone else.
I really like the first 150 posts in these threads before this shit inevitably happens
>>98893556I just wanted to know how to get good white & red opacity.
early WIP armageddon ancient. banners are fun.
>>98893573Well, you should consider how the resident mentally ill will feel before you ask questions like that.
>>98893573I simply thin my paints until it's a wash then mix more paint in then curse my shitty looking models and curse Duncan
I hope the Inquisitor woman sucks the heresy out of my penis
>>98893577That's hard considering where we are.>>98893579That's fair.
So the Night Lords are basically Batmans? Batmen? Batmi?
>>98893663They skin people alive for fun and rob people. They’re more like assholes
>>98893663They're basically Owlmen.
>>98893663A little bit but also not at all.
>>98893663They're manbats
>>98893666Their primarch came up fighting crime through fear.>>98893668Or alternate-universe Thomas Wayne.
>>98893689ah that explains it>>98893691based
>>98893693Flashpoint Thomas Wayne was still a good guy.
>>98893701so are the Night Lords, one of the things really I love about 40k is that the good guys are whoever you want them to be
What's the deal with Knights? Are they viable on their own?
>>98893693>Their primarch came up fighting crime through fear.Hello turdworlder.
>>98893725Yes? Huh?
>>98893733None of that was improper English, you tard.
>>98893734Permanent.
>>98892755Depends on your definition of saddest, but if we talk grief-struck factions i think everybody except the Orks and Tyranids have some real reasons to be sad and depressed.Look at Genestealer cults, the most damning part about the GSC is that their tricks and deception of "come here, imperial man, we have better food and better rights, no strings attached" and turns out, wow, there are no strings attached, you get a betterlife under GSC industry... until your imminent demise by meltagun or tyranid maw.
What's the best color for plasma on CSM, generally speaking? Orange?
>>98893743depends on the color scheme you're running. BL? Yeah orange-ish
>>98893754Night Lords warband. I'd entertain red, but I don't have any red fluoro paints or inks. Do have yellow fluoro, though.
>>98893743The one you like
>>98893718No that's retarded.
>>98893725They're a skew army that destroys unprepared opponents.
>>98893718>wanting any 40k faction to be "muh good guys"Absolute coward type shit
>>98893579Weird I just use pro acryl out the bottle on a dry palette.
>>98893743Undivided Black Legion? I think that red orange looks great, but dark pink is a close second, but that’s also really common for neck lighting on traitors, so it’s up to you.
>>98893809I swig paint from the bottle and spit it at my minis.
>>98893820Based.
>>98893573Really nigga? In front of my tone pro paints?>>98893579The fuck did you say?
>>98893663Curze was basically schizo Batman, but the Night Lords in general are more like cartel thugs
>>988924864++ holds the entire game balance together.As soon as gw removes the coinflip good armies will dominate the rest of the game. At least now you can coinflip your way to victory.
Is the 40k general?
>>98893868no this is Patrickyeah whats up dude?
Played a small 1000 point game at the LGS today. My CSM vs a buddy's Custodes, using their new rules and points. Those 8 minis were his entire army - a blade champion, shield captain (or whatever the fuck they're called), and 2 squads of 3 Custodians. I ran a jump lord + 10 raptors, an apostle + 10 legionaries, 5 possessed and a forgefiend.I tried something new today and went with Creations of Bile as my detachment instead of Renegade Raiders. Not gonna lie, I'm thinking COB is really fun already. To be fair I did high-roll my buffs on the table and got +2" move and +1 attacks in melee for all of my infantry, which is particularly nasty vs Custodes, but still, COB's stratagems and enhancements are far more straightforward and lethal compared to RR's movement and objectives shenanigans. I can't remember what detachment my friend was running but we both had the Purge disposition so we just did a dawn of war deployment and played the meatgrinder mirror mission.Biggest thing I noticed right away is that Custodes are absolutely NOT made for small points games anymore. They just don't have the body count to play the primary and secondary at once, whereas I could easily overwhelm him with just pure numbers. That being said though, Custodes absolutely still rape in melee combat and are basically unkillable, but they were also like that before their codex so the only real thing that changed is the model count. They also lost a lot of their fights first shenanigans, which is good IMO. They can already weather the storm and usually delete a unit on the punch back in melee, they didn't need to fight first on top of that.
>>98893826THE MOLD>>98893820Airbrush overrated glad to see you putting your sovl into it anon
Is the daemon codex in danger of getting canned?Are daemons armies cheap to collect?Also I'm guessing lists that mix all 4 gods are the strongest but it kinda looks wrong to me
>>98893879>I had a warpsmith too, forgot about that. he did fuck allI didn't take a lot of pics since it was just a small quick game with 8 models on the opposing side, but here's the final stand of the game. The only model he had left was a lone shield captain vs 4 heavy melee weapons raptors and a jump lord with the perfect specimen enhancement. My buddy decided to concede there since while he had a small 10 point lead, it was the bottom of turn 3 and I still had my forgefiend alive on 3 wounds to pelt him down while my raptors could disengage and score points for the rest of the game, or just kill his captain in the follow-up combat. IMO there was a world where he could've won this game, but it just wasn't that fun for him since he's so neutered on body count. We'll have to try a full 2000pt game to actually see how Custodes fare with the codex, they just can't really play the objective in smaller games at all.
>>98893774>>98893793Every story has its heroes, in 40k it's the Tyranids.
What are the odds I get kicked out of my LGS for painting my GSC trans pride colors?
>>98893908Zero, most people are degenerate scum nowadays
>>98893906Claws typed this post.
>>98893908Probably none. They'll just think you support transfolx and like GSC. For as much as they talk about "media literacy" the connection won't be immediately obvious. And even if they suspect something, if you don't spill your spaghetti they won't have any evidence of your intent
>>98893913at least they're not racist
>>98893883>Is the daemon codex in danger of getting canned?Always. Daemons used to just be a part of Chaos codex until they got this weird bee in their bonnet about splitting them and mortals up. Who knows if/when they might shove daemons back in a complete Chaos codex (as they should). They're a pretty weak and unpopular army as far as I understand.>lists that mix all 4 gods are the strongest but it kinda looks wrong to meBecause it is wrong. The gods don't like to mix, there's even pairings of gods who absolutely despise each other, and it's sort of a whole big thing that big name dudes like Horus, Abaddon and Belakor have enough swag and pull with the gods that they can unite everyone under their banner. However with the daemons codex of course each god's dudes fulfil a different niche so you are shooting yourself in the foot if you outright refuse to take any certain gods' units.
>>98893926basically it's>Khorne and Tzeentchvs >Nurgle and Slaanesh
>>98893931Wrong, try again
Ok but what about dark mechanicus when are we getting an official codex for them >>98893926Also would make sense if you could run daemons with DM since Vash exists and all. Maybe only one chaos god though like undivided that gives special perk per god to the rest of your mehanicus army. Not that I dont want to see unique demon machine sculpts. Also Chaos bikers but tech priests instead of Marines.
>>98893934>Khorne and Slaanesh hate each other>Tzeentch and Nurgle hate each otherThis the is canon, I'm sorry it offends you.
When you say "4++ is a problem" what you really mean is "superheavies/primarchs/other giant centrepiece models/custodes" are a problem, which is true because they don't belong in the game.
>friends are getting into warhammer and said they wanted to start with some smaller games>figure id finally start picking up pieces from armies i always wanted to paint>remember they axed the old deldar box>see this insteadim sure this box is fine, but holy fuck losing the previous box must be fucking awful, also i swear to god there was a lot more models in the range before now theres like 20
>>98893879It’s really disappointing how the game only works at 2k points.
>>98893952The wording after the greentext makes it look like you were trying to purposefully get it wrong to piss people (me) off, but this is correct actually
>>98893968Khorne hates Tzeentch, he even has the whole anti-sorcery gimmick.
>>98893973No, that's Crom. Different guy.
>>98893973REALM OF CHAOSEALMOFCHAOS
>>98893889His mistake was playing all the bad units from the codex. The only things worth playing are Trajann, dreads and flamer sisters. Standard custodes need to drop about 20% in points to be worth it and the generic characters need to drop about 50% because none of them are worth running solo.
>>98893973Ermmmm why is magnus THE RED then? Nice try Malal……..
>>98893967In fairness it's mostly a knights/custodes problem. Sure the game is overall unbalanced at 1k, but most armies have enough models at a low enough cost to at least have a fun time of rolling the dice and fighting over objectives at that level. Like Custodes can't even take a fuckin light vehicle in a 1k game at those points costs. Not that they even have one, but still. I can't even imagine the listbuilding shenanigans you'd have to do to fit a dreadnought in a 1k Custodes list now.>>98893977>His mistake was playing all the bad units from the codexProbably. It was his first game with the new book, so he's still trying to figure out what's worth taking and what's worth skipping. I think he was just trying to fit what he usually ran pre-codex (custodes squads with characters) into a 1k list now, and it just doesn't work at those points costs.
>>98893982He blue tho.
I don't think total war 40k will work
>>98894004Dunno, have you asked /v/ or /vg/?
>>98894004I think it will but thats not really /tg/ related.
>>98893924did not expect a decade old niche internet tf comic fanart to show up in a 40k thread but I shouldnt be surprised.
>>98893115>Year of the ghosts Nice, I have a killteam for that.
>>98893889What faction is this? I like the polearm guy
>>98894085Chaos Space Marines. Those models specifically are raptors, though I swapped out the jump packs and helmets for some older ones I had stored up from other kits. The spear does come in that kit though.
>>98893456looks like custodes versus a kitbashed raptors squad/warp talons squad. the jump pack is 100% the raptors jump pack, and it looks like some head swaps and armor swaps
World Eaters or Blood Angels? I like power armor and melee. World Eaters buffs seem stronger than doctrines.
>>98893879>They just don't have the body count to play the primary and secondary at once, whereas I could easily overwhelm him with just pure numbers.>and 2 squads of 3 CustodiansHe could've added up to three squads of SoS for the same cost as a single squad of Custodian Guard.
>>98894105Which one does your heart truly desire?
first time I ever buy used minihow did i do?also where is that grot in the front from?i didnt order it
>>98894105Blood Angels fans/players are the whiniest most entitled bitches in the whole hobby, stay away from them.
>>98894174Give me the rundown on this
>>98894174>the whiniest most entitled bitches in the whole hobbthat's guardbros and it's not particularly close.
>>98894175Had it good with marine sculpts then got shafted with the primaris update.To be fair they had a ridiculous amount of fucking sculpts for a codex compliant chapter (why did they need their own sternguard).Since Bangels fags have never known what it is like to have shit minis they are currently just having full on meltdowns and retroactively shitting on older well recieved sculpts (Dante, astrogath). I've seen the complete rape of a faction design I love, and no one talks about it. BA losers are really annoying.
How do I make a surface read as reflective and shiny?
>>98894218add white highlight
>>98894204>They're passionate about their faction being ruined and I'm not so that makes them whiny and entitled
>>98894229>I've seen the complete rape of a faction design I love, and no one talks about it.Man, Bangeltards can't even fucking read.
>>98894238>Claims others can't read>Can't even understand the point being madeRetarded or eastern euro, call it
can anybody recommend me some decent sprue clippers? My tamiya ones have gotten chipped, they're no the godhand clippers>>98893958paypiggies encourage this behaviour. consumers have nobody to blame but themselves
>>98894204There is no BA sternguard. Please check your facts.
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>>98894268Bangels ain't sending their best today are they?
>>98894269Upgrade sprues don't count as unique kits
>>98891978>Let Chaos Idols take this thread!
>>98894275>D-doesn't count
Anyone got any decent places for Eldar Proxys? Seeing the sea of Imperial Guard and Ork proxy makers gives me hope.
>>98894277>StutterpostingDesperate today huh shitposter
>>98892802Sisters bolters are smaller than marine ones but the same design. It says it in the codex. They also say normal humans can't use them because its power armor that enables the sisters to use marine bolters as their main battle rifle.
>>98894301>smaller>same design
>>98894284I have seen a few decent versions of some specific models around but generally third party eldars end up over detail compared to the normal eldar range and don't really mesh well with their relatively plain look. Eldar don't have variant aesthetics in official artwork to draw from like Guard and Marines do, and instead you just mostly find people making exodite versions of aspect warriors or 60 other variant aspect Warriors because for a long time those models were super old and kind of ugly and key to the Army
It's a slow morning. Getting out of bed, the air is a cold shower after the chill night. I wake up and make my way to the kitchen. There's freshly brewed coffee ready to fill my usual cup. I grab some breakfast and make my way over to a couch and pull a blanket over my legs. I give myself time to enjoy the coffee.Then I remember them. Deathwing Bladeguard Veteran squads. Deathwing Vanguard Veteran squads. Deathwing Sternguard Veteran squads. My good mood comes unraveled. My day is ruined.
>use vallejos brassy brass>it looks brown instead of a nice metallicGod damn it what am I doing wrong, nothing ever looks right
>thread gets hijacked by /pol/babble>the usual suspects are -conveniently- absent or late to the thread even if they haven't been visibly smacked by jannies recentlyI'm nooticing
>>98893958The irony is that a covens box is something Dark Eldar players have wanted for decades because they've never been in a discount bundle before. But you look at this box and there's a giant grotesque-shaped hole missing in the middle of it now because they deleted that unit from the codex. It used to be foundational to that pillar of the army.
>>98894315I really hope that one sperg is right and a DEldar refresh is coming. They need their units returned to them yesterday.
>>98894320we already have the leaks
Leaking eldar women...
>>98892844he didn't say "most autistic wargames". he said "autistic games".
How do I paint Necrons in a not boring style?
>>98894322What do the leaks say? Are the DEIdar getting refreshed?
>>98894409vect tantalus trueborn
>>98894313Define /pol/babble
>>98894419Neat
>>98894309Have you given it a through shake? I use that one and it's pretty shiny.
>>98894184>t.DEfag who started attacking guardfans instead of GW for the shitty situation of his army
HOW DO I DRYBRUSH PROPERLYEvery time I do it I don't drybrush, it just paints stuff, I'm not doing it right
>>98894484Short answer: don't drybrush. Long answer: don't drybrush.
>>98894484Too much paint; shrimple as>Just get a paper towel and wipe off as a lot of paint till theres a tiny bit leftSomeone throw this man a drybrush video
>>98894465Not beating the allegations
>>98894484wipe off more paint than you think you needdon't press it on the model, you want it as light as possible as if you were brushing it gently with a feather
>>98894501Yes, you DEfags never have.
>>98894505They're also not beating the allegations
>>98894497>>98894504I must've had way too much on my brush
>Sisters of Battle>Space MarinesWho should my final army be?
>>98894526Come play Imperial Agents with me
>>98894532oh boy, I just won the lottery because someone admitted to playing agents
>>98894537I haven't even played them, I'm kind of wary. Everything I read screams bad idea, they have no army rule, they barely function, have the worst win rate...but they just look so cool.
>>98894546just TWO more weeks until the IA refresh anon!srs bsnss but IA shouldn't be a soup army but their own listing with more models
IA refresh after Dark Eldar refresh
>>98894378Bros? Silver is boring, my current paints are making me bored, gold and brass will look tacky with a ton of unitsAny recs?
>>98894561Try metallic blue
>>98893982Tzeentch’s primarch is Leman Russ, that’s why the space wolf armor turned blue after the Heresy.
>tzeentch is the god of the relentless pursuit of knowledge>relentless to the point if you keep digging you'll lose your mind, lovecraft shit >the 40k faction representing tzeentch is Egyptian themed marines Make it make sense
>>98894546>>98894551Just give me a witch hunter army with GK, Sisters and IG please for fuck's sake
I don't get why there isn't some fucked up Chaos factions of scary demons or something, instead of dude corrupted marines lmao
>>98893211How the fuck does a human slave even survive serving a chapter of emps children?
>find 40k models (for guard) replicas in STL form>unsure and untrusting if they are truly 1:1 or "near 1:1." B-bros. I might have to buy actual GW plastic and FW recast to assemble the models to have physical references. I hate this. Any printers here? How did you break free of this autism? How do you know if an STL is 1:1 with the real thing so I don't deal with tard autism at the LGS?
>>98894628I specifically avoid scans and clones. My autism tells me to just buy the plastic if it's readily available and instead look for interesting alternative designs that look like they fit the setting while still having their own personality (and satisfying both of those is itself pretty rare and a challenge of a different sort).Doesn't get around dealing with tards at the LGS, though.
>>98894537There are like 4 agents players ITT afail. GK anon is my favorite.
>>98894218You could use a top layer of clear coat as well that isn’t matte also
>>98894484Have you tried making your brush dry
good base kit to use sos-bits to make conversions for other chudettes?
>>98894642This autism usually flares up when it comes to out of print stuff like the Forge World tanks. And I know that the Leman Russ and Chimera and maybe even the Baneblade tanks are gonna have their time eventually. So I need to hurry up on those.
>>98894595Egyptians worshipped cats and cats are actually aliens and toxoplasmosis you get from being in proximity to cats causes both madness and unlocks madman’s knowledge
>>98894707>chudettesBegone, roastie. Chud is OUR word.
Hello 40kfriends, I don't know if you guys are aware of this, but aos leakers are saying a bunch of new tau stuff is coming. Something about "impact battlesuits" and a new supreme commander. The latest few rumour engines have been about this new commander model.Again I don't know if this is old news for you guys, but thought you might be interested either way. Oh, and something about titans?
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>>98894730both talons are chuds, so sos are chudettes. So just put the kit the bag after recommending it
>>98894304Godwyn vs Godwyn D'eaz. .75 vs .68 cal. And don't give me caliber debates on fucking fake bolters because Chaos bolters are S5AP-1 and those are Tigris and Umbris patterns which are .60
how the fuck do you tint metallics without another metallic
>>98891341Got home early and added some contraband for Wolf Brother Floyd's Arrest
