Picture Day Edition>Previous>>98877887>Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/WiCHizn0>Mediafirehttps://mediafire.com/folder/s9esc6u7ke8k5/CofD>Mega Ihttps://mega.nz/folder/ePQ1BKhJ#RCosRCh59Ki2Mpb1M9H3Uw>Mega II (also containing fanmade games)https://mega.nz/folder/ZbQ2zLJA#DOT-3df6rS2lLet4_RmqJQ>5e Megahttps://mega.nz/folder/7rQQ1LbQ#16_AiXVGo0P3_rVOJuoZyA>VtM to VtR fan translation guidehttps://mega.nz/folder/LhYTUD7b#cRDFTcMXSB_2TjD7eJoE5Q>STV content foldershttps://pastebin.com/9i9zhydQ>General Creation Kithttps://mega.nz/#F!FWJgBTbb!f7d5rARWHYzuI8-8aI-Bxw>Ideas: BJ Zanzibar's WoDhttp://167.99.155.149/>Anders Mage Pagehttp://mage.gearsonline.net/anders/>White Wolf Wiki:https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page>Ananasi-anon's The Tapestry and the Workhttps://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-tapestry-and-the-work-world-of-darkness-human-into-spider-reincarnation.1325755/>/WoDg/&/CofDg/ weremoth community projecthttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1wxUUfa3NNglvbgmJUAn_n84VYkPS08AKgeB7IqWpB1o/edit?usp=sharing>Thread QuestionIts Picture Day, Anons! Are you ready to have your portrait done? (Post character art for your character or art you would use for a character portrait.)
Why are the Spirit Manifestation conditions so multifaceted, long and also shit? I'm gonna play Ascension thanks.
Moth?
>New thread just before I postedDamn it all…>>98888913 #>Does that last part work too in voice only?You’d be surprised. Your facial expressions slightly shift the shape of your mouth as you speak. You can actually tell when someone’s smiling while they speak if you know what to look for.As for making someone unnerving, the most important part is that your behaviors and actions should make people doubt their initial assessments of anything you do. When regular people say “if you say x, I’m gonna hurt you”, they usually mean that they’ll be quite unhappy. But if Shark says it, they should be legitimately unsure. That’s the important part! It shouldn’t be obvious that she’ll hurt them, since that just makes her dangerous. They should feel like they need to reassess whether she will or not every time, and having to reassess constantly makes people nervous—that’s what makes a character unnerving.
>>98890593IN GIRUM IMUS NOCTE ET CONSUMIMUR IGNI
>>98890593Ew
>>98888913I think you would benefit from looking into how the pros do it.Here's Mads Mikkelsen reviewing some of his roles:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtXC6Tu5p0M>How do you make someone unnerving? (Shark used to be quite the creep show, but the cannibalism bit got old fast)What happens when the Joker stops cackling?>How do you make someone insidious? (And it can’t be anything sneaky since Shark now barely has any subtlety)What happens when Batman starts cackling?
>>98890593I like moths.So, how do they reproduce? I'm not sure if they have kinfolk or not as people seemed to agree the first weremoths were (mainly) humans that underwent the first change after I guess the Spirit Moth and the Maelstrom thing happened? Something about freeing the weremoth spirits or the like from the Dreaming and the Underworld.There's also the rite of the fetish egg the weremoths have access to, though it's probably under a different name.Corax do have kinfolk as far as I'm aware, so perhaps weremoths do too? Though, where did they come from?
>>98890519>Thread QuestionObligatory post of Bleu's character sheet portrait I guess.
>>98890519>TQMy Princess character was inspired by picrel.
>>98890569While I get the idea of the chart, I feel like it hurts more than it helps since it comes off as daunting. Though I’d say it’s way better than the 1e rules just being lines and lines of text just to say the same thing the 2e rules say…
>>98890593>>98890813Since we are on the topic of Moths and Corax, I transcribed the Corax gifts listed in the weremoth document. Rather than taking up 3 posts, I posted them to the last thread >>98891044 >>98891051 >>98891052Corax do have kinfolk although information on them seems sparse. Im not the most adept with Fera but if a fera and a regular human have a child, wouldnt that child be a kinfolk?>Though, where did they come from?I think its intentionally vague so people can theorycraft. I know part of their return was tied to the moonlanding. I think the atomic bomb testing also played a part in it but I dont remember if that was confirmed. I also had my theory of pathos moths being stuck in the Labyrinth and escaping during the 4th great maelstrom.Also do we have a tribe name for them?
>>98890519This one>Zulo war form that gives you a suit of organic armor and a weaponWhy don't Tzimisce do this? Are we Voivodes stupid?
>>98891115>we
>>98891108I like the gifts you listed, very cool.I don't know how kinfolk come about, only that they're related to their specific Fera. I suppose their origin could be a "who the fuck really knows" or that the first kinfolk came from the literal offspring of a weremoth and a random human. Pathos moths (or their essence, spirits or what have you) being stuck in the Labyrinth and escaping or being set free at the same time as the Glamour moths "woke up" in (and from) the Dreaming would be pretty cool, I agree. Also ties neatly to the one rogue weremoth group being directly tied to Oblivion.
>>98890593And here I just drove past Point Pleasant
>>98890519Garou be like:>"By Gaia, is that a full moon?! AAAAAAAHHHH, I'M GONNA YIFF OOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUTTTTTTTTTTTT!
>>98891460Source? Get of Fenris btw.
Any guides on making cities besides Damnation City? I guess I'm more looking for guides on converting real life cities that haven't been covered by existing books.
>>98891460I've seen enough, 6 gorillion gallons of toxic waste just got dumped into a river near you.
>>98888637I don't do mage so I have no horse in this race. So Pillars are pretty much a "DIY your own 5-dot predetermined thaumaturgy path", right? And that's why you should have an idea of what you want to do before you commit to the build? Idunno man, while it could remove sphere bloat I feel it would also lock in a character on a gimmick and limit creativity, and require the ST to go over every new dot and decide if it's balanced instead of just feeling out a sphere requirement and the player having to bullshit why their stuff works. Though it does seem to solve paradigm not mechanically mattering outside flavor where both a Technocrat and a Shaman with Forces 2 Prime 2 could breathe fire but only the Technocrat would take paradox. Assuming theyre in a reality zone where the Shaman's paradigm is coincidental. If I understand correctly that is.
>>98891667>So Pillars are pretty much a "DIY your own 5-dot predetermined thaumaturgy path", right? not really pillars can still be combined with other pillars. they are really just combine 2-3 spheres (mostly hermetics) and or decide on a theme then take 4 per faction or make your ownit's really just simplified sphere casting that people like for the flavour and i guess pillars are dirt cheap exp wise (x3) and exp cost is one of the roadblocks in mage
would playing a Batini be a bit cheeky for solo play in Mage
>WoD m30>be fera>slaughter Indians because they pollute the environment and society>anti-racists start willingly falling to the wyrm to not be associated with me>vampires help because jeets taste like shit, shit on everything and ruin all services>bomb an Israeli-backed NGO>more people start throwing themselves to the Wyrm and Nephandi because Jews tell people I'm a NaziHail Gaia
>>98891698>vampires help because jeets taste like shit, shit on everything and ruin all services>bomb an Israeli-backed NGO>more people start throwing themselves to the Wyrm and Nephandi because Jews tell people I'm a NaziWell, after a backstab like that from you after all help it is a wonder, that vampires had merely released your "secret" diary (read: your manifesto blog you advertise at every corner) in public and had not done something worse.
>>98891002Ill admit I wasnt thrilled with this TQ because I figured the regulars post their character art already. Youve done art for other people, would you be interested in sharing some of your favorites?>>98891158I still need to look at the ananasi and standard garou gifts but my goal is to transcribe the gifts, rites, and tag on some merits and flaws that would be applicable. Refluffing some of the Corax gifts was tedious mainly due to a lack of tribe name so I just kept saying Weremoth. I think I will use Lepidoptera as a placeholder for the rest. Personally I like the idea that "only the moths know how they returned" and all the theories are speculations from different tribes/splats.>>98891115I always saw a Tzimisce's Zulo form as a dark reflection of the user. Like if a Tzimisce was on the Path of Honorable Accord, they would have bone armor or look like something akin to white Phyrexians from Magic The Gathering or a Cathari Tzimisce looking something like a Slaaneshi Deamon Prince. If Bakeslave ever earns his mock Zulo form, its going to look like Absolute Cheetah except with his other powers and general color scheme to represent his feelings of being twisted and altered by various individuals.
>>98891115>Why don't Tzimisce do this?Because properly making bone armor without accidentally sealing yourself in a statue of bone and cartilage requires actually knowing how to make armor with proper articulated plating.Most nobles are completely oblivious to the secrets of the forge and see such knowledge as beneath them.
>>98891985Isn’t there a vampire whose sire hated them so much, they flesh crafted a bone-plate mask before embracing them, so every night they have to cut through bone just to see and eat?
>>98891115bone weapons need a combo power with protean and to be honest it's shit. You spend not a small amount of exp for a weapon that does agg damage which not only can other disciplines (thaum, quietus, obtenerbration with another combo power) get cheaper it also doesn't synergize well with either of the base power because zulo form buffs brawl attacks in most editions which stacks with protean claws
I reley dont wan to say this, but I have to nowThis game is so esey. I mean, all you do is hit the spacebar. thats it! how is this an RPG anyway? you can't contrail anything but what it says on the screen! what if I didn't want to buy the potion? what apout quests? all you can upgrade is stranth? there is no way you can lose to the boss at the end! this game is crap! its not even an RPG at all! I mean look at it! in what way is this supposed to be an RPG if you can do quests and stuff? all you do is press one butten the entier time! explain to me! the athore coments al totol lies! is it supposed to be stick dudes? I dont even know how this damn game got the daily 3rd prize, or a rating of 4.26!Pepole think this review is worthlesGo ahead! say it! I dont care! im just trying to make a point here!Blam this piece of crap!!!!P.S the only reson im giving this a 1 is beacuase the voices where pretty good. but thats it!
>>98891460This happens, btw.
>>98891975Hooboy. I'm happy to share some scribbles, but I'm worried I might get carried away and hit the image limit!Anyway, I'll start with Raphi, one of my friend's Mage characters. I don't remember the game too well, but I think he was a Dreamspeaker.
>>98892296Then here's one from the Werewolf game that another friend of mine ran. Game turned out to be a one-shot, as this particular friend was always really good at hyping people up to play a game, but had a hard time getting anything past one session.
>>98892329Getting out of stuff that isn't more than a decade old, here's one I did for another poster in /shreck/ for when his Ventrue character had to throwdown against a Vicissitude-crafted dragon. I fucked up on the perspective, so ended up going with a different pic instead.
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>>98892350Going back in time, we have a picture I did for the Sabbat elders game. This one comes with a bit of storytime. Our usual ST came back from the Grand Masquerade in New Orleans with that fancy V20 book in 2011, but before he went, I had loaned him my Hellsing manga collection and we had been discussing the character in the manga as how they would be as WoD clans. I ended up playing Rip Van Winkle as a Daughter of Cacophony from the 1700s. This pic feature the "core four" our pack in the modern nights, before the Battle of New York. For the game, I tried to draw as close to Kouta Hirano's style as I could.Featured clockwise from top-left: Augustino, our Lasombra ductus; The Horseman/Der Reiter, our Brujah antitribu beatstick; Vickrem, our Ravnos antitribu trickster; and my character, Rip, the Daughter of Cacophony pack priest.
>>98892435Another member of The Choir, Phillip, our House Goratrix Tremere (and secret Infernalist).
>>98892443And the last member of The Choir, Baqi Hassan, our Assamite antitribu cowboy.
>>98892454Something I did for my best friend/roommate: Horseman's childe, Lita (Shovelhead Stripper in /shreck/), emerging from her recent Embrace.
>>98892468And I'll stop there for now, so I don't piss off the whole general with my scribble posting.
>>98892454>>98892443>>98892435Well, Hellsing influence goes hard on those. For a moment i had thought, that that actually were Hellsing characters, obvious Van Winkle being obvious. In a good way, mind you, but still.
>>98891460Surprisingly, Garou do not get forcefully transformed by the moon. Though I think there's a flaw that does that or at least make them crazy.
>>98891490>Source?It's over for humanity, isn't it?
Need pegging from a smelly Bahari while stoned...>>98892006Good ol Jaggedy Andy. Though Im having trouble coming up with a proper translation of his name for my Mexico chronicle since Raggedy Ann isn't as much of a cultural touchstone here as in the anglosphere. "Andy el Roto" ?"Andy El Muñeco Feo"?
>>98891985That reminds me, an idea for an tzimisce for vda is a former ghoul who whas the prized blacksmith of his voivode, embraced on a whim before his sire went off into war against the tremore.Keeps smithing despite his vampiredom. Wants to learn koldunic volcano sorcery to get rid of his fear of fire (and become a better dragon). Also likes to encase metal plates/armor int his szlachta and own body.>>98892040brother for a few blood points you can arm your retainers, friends, and in time your whole army with agg damage. Remember, tzims aren't pure frontline fighters, they are warlords. Especially potent if you use it for arrows.
>>98891115Tziggers aren't known for their love of practicality.
>>98890519Seen my pic plenty of times already, but sure!>>98889098>Saying disturbing stuff with a neutral expression or a smile, lurking menacingly, having some mystery behind them. It's not something easy to pull on in person since lighting does WONDERS for Makima's framing because of Fujimoto's references and shading.I feel like that’ll be hard to pull in game. Plus I sacrificed most of my stealth, so I can barely be sneaky anymore.>This is more of character motivation, casual cruelty while acting in a nice manner, disregard for loss of life, some sort of putting down other people in a way that others can't do much about.Shark was kinda already like that. Plus now that they’re Anubis’ childe they’re pretty much untouchable socially. And he can murder anyone with their powers.>It's all hard to translate, grantedYeah…>>98890598I see.>the most important part is that your behaviors and actions should make people doubt their initial assessments of anything you doI see. So I kinda accomplished that with Shark being thrilled to see the Gustav cannon. It’s just that the emotion I displayed wasn’t what I wanted.With Shark’s -10 dice due to rage, everyone constantly assume Shark’s gonna murder them. The soldiers were all reaching for their gun whenever she spoke.How can I play around that?
>>98890796Alright I’ll take a look at itSo do I also have to balance the Joker/Batman act?
>>98892907pick a side: laughter or seriousness
>>98892927I guess seriousness? Shark has become more neutral emotionally, so doing the Batman cackling routine might have greater effect.I will have to crank up the crazy very high when it’s time to let lose. Like going into battle.
>>98892881Hi Shark! Unfortunately I dont really have anything to contribute to the rp discussion but I found this picture today and thought you might like it.
>>98892985Nice! Pretty fitting. Wonder what happened to Poseidon. Last time I checked a rokea popped up because I was ghouling their kin
>TQSo Princess: the Hopeful is a fangame about playing magical girls, but it takes place inside the World of Darkness, which means you're free to throw some real creepy crawlies at those princesses.Right now I'm statting up a Cataphract who was born over a hundred years ago, used to make porcelain dolls, and in the modern nights is looking for human victims to turn into living dolls. Hopefully this random-ass pic conveys the proper menace.
>>98892700Tub of Flesh is the other really funny one of Sascha’s creations. The fact that his quote on the wiki page is literally “ kzsjdgfklajdfgihjksssssss” sends me.
>>98890519I'm making character sheets for a VtM 20th-anniversary edition game I will never join or could!
>>98890519Is a Tremere having three split personalities annoying?
>>98893292Tremere are annoying even without derangements.
>TQI found this picture and thought it would be great for a Garou. Im just not sure which tribe.
>>98893193>I'm making character sheets for a VtM 20th-anniversary edition game I will never join or could!Because nobody is running 20th or because you can't join ANY group?
>>98890257>Bro just accept v6
Absolute Joker feels like he could be a Pentex guy
>>98893450>V5 players get to become as embittered and nostalgic as the rest of us
>>98892006Could be worse. He could get raped and have another tzigger turned into an embryo and shoved up his boy pussy.
>>98892006I hardly ever hear anything about that weird "your body resets to the point of your death" quirk vampires have.
In honor of that guy who was doing polls for awhile:https://strawpoll.com/X3nkPjblVgE
>>98893830Personally I am torn between "It would be better if basically any animal could have a shifter." and "We should consolidate shifters into a few well developed ones with more in-depth themes and abilities."
>>98892435>Hellsing mangaI knew I recognized the style of the art, it's very Hellsing-esque. Quite good at looking similar
>>98893830>there are shifters called Grindrkek
>>98893320Funny, I remember seeing that pic and thinking it gives Gangrel vibes. But to answer your question, Shadow Lord.
Any particular reason Curseborne's character sheets list its (only sixteen?) Skills before its Attributes?
Yandere zombies? Seriously?
>>98894037onyx path at some point just decided to do that for their "i can't believe it's not a wod/cofd game" gamesscion 2e for example has a very similair layout>>98894099honestly the dead are the one lineage i really like between the poltergeists and the zed. the players guide also have identity theft mirror ghosts
>>98894144I was halfway joking. I do like the idea of skimmers who can do an impromptu possession, and even though I'm not far enough into the book yet to know how spells actually work, I'm curious to make a Warden and see how far I can cheese the Creepy Doll spell.
>>98890519https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHgtGCOWOV8
>>98894168>and see how far I can cheese the Creepy Doll spell.far. advances are stuff you can add items to your target item up to industrial size items. animate different items around your target and later other people you can also with another spell turn buildings into living haunted houses that are on your side and do a lot of really weird shitlike i said dead really are my favorite they are the only lineage i might port back
>>98893830Caw
>>98893830>lesserwatAlso I'm surprised at the low amount of Ananasi votes
>>98894433They lost the war of rage, losers can't whine about being called lessers.
>>98894433if anything the votes have kinda shown that we have several loud minorities in this general >anasifans>technocrats>tremeredon't get a lot of the votes unless /v/ is involved
>>98891108I've added the Gifts to the document, thanks a lot.I'll see if I can write a lore blurb about the weremoths spawning and reproduction this week.
>>98894444I like the spiders enough to write a shitty story about them.Also, nice quads.
>>98894461oh this was neither meant as a dig on the fans of the those faction nor the posters here just something i noticed in the polls
Why does Onyx Path love doing the cringe as fuck IC writing? It's tolerable when it's pithy and witty but they just waffle all the time in Curseborne and even 2e CofD
“Thin-Blood With Nosferatu Clan Curse” is a really funny concept. You’re just an ugly dude. Your sire made a chud.
>>98894560in general caitiff with the nosferatu clan curse sound hillarious like how does the rest of the court react? do they assume that your sire is also actually really ugly and they all have bad enough taste that they didn't noticed?
>>98894539There's something subtly different about the writing in Curseborne and V5/W5 that annoys me. I think it's the constant references to the perfidy of real-life corporations. Like yes, I agree with you, holding companies are making things worse for personal benefit, I want you to stop reminding me every chapter, I have social media if I want to be constantly angry
>>98894433They mean less retarded.
>>98894444Listen, redditards like technocrats because muh hecking science, I like them because can be the good doctor by day and craft resident evil monsters by night, all in the name of total world domination. Nu-cracy is lame as fuck and that's an objective fact.
>>98894560It could be worse, but still a shit situation.
>>98894461New chapter when?
I read Mage Made Easy and the Mage SRD and wow, these just make understanding why m20 sucks even easier. Is there anyone out there who is actually making a good homebrew rewrite of Ascension that doesn't suck?
>>98894818>homebrew rewrite of Ascension that doesn't suck?Would you like some perpetual motion machine with that?
>>98894753Man, I dunno. Depends on how fast I can tie in the several scenes I have written.It's going to be +4k word chapter, which is neat.
>>98892881>How can I play around that?Think of it this way. We don’t mistreat our tools when they’re working right and doing what they’re supposed to do, we mistreat them when they don’t work or do what they’re supposed to. From what I understand, Shark should see everyone and everything as a tool to further the ends of war, right? So you work with your tools. You might even come off as one of those “scary but nice when you get to know them” types to those who don’t know. If they don’t work though? They’re swiftly discarded. A good example I think of is Vegeta and Nappa. As soon as Nappa became a burden, Vegeta dusted him despite working with him for so long.
>>98892482>>98893863Thanks!
>>98894818Just play whatever edition of Ascension you prefer. Or Awakening.
>>98894433>low number of spooder votersFrom what I remember, spidertalk used to peak at kind of unusual times, to they might get a big uptick eventually.
>>98895079Alright! I’ll be doing that! It’s something that I was already leaning towards anyway. I plan to push my vitae production into factory mode and mass ghoul the soldiers. Not for slaves, Shark doesn’t care for servants and blood bonds. She just to make them stronger. If all went well she would ghoul hundreds, if not thousands of soldiers.I’ll be teasing them with Shark’s bloodlust, and doing things like ex: moving slowly towards them and staring into their eyes, the guy thinking he’s about to get fucking murdered while as a matter of fact I’m just about to shake their hand.Gotta emphasize too that my bloodlust isn’t just for show. I can murder anyone, anytime, if the thought crossed my mind.
>>98894444>trememes got 0 (zero) votes in a poll with all the factions
I have a sketch of my WTA character
>>98895726Your character would fit perfectly into Hunter the Parenting
>>98895733if alfa took all the namefags here and made them into characters in htp who do you think would be the most popular? how badly would they botch the spirit of the character?
>>98895770hedgefag mia due to being in cofd universebakeslave would be on-point for the type of campaign they're going for
what are their clans?
>>98895770How many namefags do we have?
>>98895839if you count all the rpers from schrecknet and gwnet, we could make an entire show
>>988958055 and 9 are just generic Ventrue, 2 and 3 are Toreadors (also generic), 7 is Tremere, 6 and 1 are Lasombra, 4 - Tzimische, 8 - Malkavian.
>>98893830>No option for mockery breeds[Sad Samsa noises]
>>98893830So the updated poll...>4 CoraxHonestly very surprising>4 KitsuneKind of refreshing in how straightforward this one is, didn't expect that many>3 spoodersNow that's more like it>3 MokoleKind of expected they've got some of the better lore>2 BastetVery surprised at this given how often anons speak about then>2 RokeaI know some people like them so that feels right>2 RatkinDidn't expect those guys though, but feels right>1 for Grondr and GurahlNiche and kind of boring respectively, that makes sense. I'm surprised the Nagah got zero votes but then the scalies here probably voted for the mokole instead
>>98893830>Corax getting a pluralityI had expected Mokole to be winning
>>98893320It's her!
not surprising considering how popular corax are in ss13
>>98895880The GWnet RPers would end up a little bit TOO based for HtP
>>98896081That goes for every splat we did so far.
>>98896066What is the wod server like, I saw the 18+ in the name and never thought about joining again
>>98890519I have a truckload of character art, some bespoke, some not. I'll try to space them out as to not spam the thread.Here's a a crappy screenshot of the token of the Mask of my current CTL PC, Frankie Porter. His mien is a monstrous looking ape-man straight out of the bad trip of a victorian naturalist deep in an opium pipe. The game is set in late Victorian London. Frankie is an Ogre with a good heart but a very rough demeanor, wants to protect the people of London rich or poor, but believes overwhelming terror tactics to be the route to get Loyalists and other problems to fuck off. Game is currently on break, should return in a month or two.
>>98896145Oh, forgot to mention, this artwork was actually done by a wandering drawfag that graced this general a while back.
>>98896104there was an original then due to drama someone made an 18+ erp one that siphoned all the players, then an open source codebase project was started which a bunch of servers pull from that. currently, the most popular one is an 18+ server where erp is banned that is only open on friday and the weekendshttps://youtu.be/k7JvjckeVsI?t=14616
anyone have the canite clan lips image?
>>98896145This is art of a previous PC, Ephraim Tomlinson. From a Hunter: the Vigil game set in 1816 Louisville Kentucky. Ephraim was a bit of a lay-about dandy, making rent money by hustling cards, until he damn near got taken by a Loyalist. The realization that the supernatural is real changed his life by giving him a purpose. He grew into the face (and sometimes moral center) of the Cell, and he was very fun to play because while he wasn't too much in a fight (wasn't useless in a fight, just not amazing), the shenanigans you can get up to with high stealth, larceny, and subterfuge is immaculate. He eventually ended up marrying another member of the Cell's sister, we've ruled that between a few members of that chronicle the Louisville area now has a weird extended Hunter family.Art was courtesy of the character art thread, I made a minor alteration to get rid of the bard.wav Lute strung on his back. I'd also alter the jacket color in GIMP on occasion, usually at the start of a new arc.
>>98896160So it's just an age restriction? I like the look though I still doubt it has a higher level of roleplay than most of SS13
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>>98896237its medium to high rp with a ban on metagaming but sometimes the round devolves into fragging between the garou and pentex or sabbat, hunters and the police and either the national guard or pentex first teams have to be called in.
>>98895269I actually don't mind awakening apart from Spirit Manifestation Conditions and the fact the lore is dripless. Among a few other things>The Witch class...doesn't have good Forces.>game expects me to know AND give a fuck about Temenos, Spirit Wilds and Underworld AND Lower Depths.
>>98896240thanks bro
>>98895770I only know three namefags; Setite anon, Shark (anon) and Bakeslave.Early Shark wouldn’t be popular because it’s just Pyotor but le cannibal. Nowadays Shark (and Bakeslave too) could be well received for being femboy/trans, and HTP is pretty Reddit. Also Bakeslave is endearing and kind of the equivalent of a girl failure but a boy. Setite anon draws cute characters and also references Hellsing which is based.
>>98896273Pretty normal SS13 roundendMight play it at some point to be sabbat fodder though I'm sure the server is the opposite half of the world than the one I live in
Why are Arisen randomly immune to Fate and Time and why can't Mages conjure Sekhem
My Mage character essentially goes through this with him basically swapping forms with his Avatar
>>98896240Hot>>98896383CUTE!
Princess: The Hopeful writers when people play magical girls in games of Mage instead
>>98896635I mean the rest of my table doesnt play magical girl characters
>>98896230Unfortunately, I do not have character art for my current VTM character. Rather, I do, but it's a physical drawing I do not have in my possession currently. But I do have art for a previous VTM character. Lucille Foncé of Clan Ventrue, art done by the very talented professional artist Crom, also known as Cromsferatu and Dinerforwolves. Ever precocious, from a well to do old money Maine family with French roots, her great potential got her noticed by an Elder of Clan Ventrue, who wanted to prove the classic Ventrue embrace (take a promising scion of a good lineage and groom them) still works in the Modern Nights. The fact her father was his ghoul certainly helped get her noticed. With Ventrue attention on her when she was but a tween, it's impossible to know how much of her poise, wit, and hunger for power are natural, and how much was the Ventrue. Unfortunately, for nebulous reasons, the Elder couldn't or didn't embrace her himself, leaving it to one of his underlings. Meaning Lucille is of the 12th Generation. She didn't let it slow her down, using her will, guile and charisma to make up for her underwhelming vampiric potency. She rose meteorically during the Chronicle, despite being less than 20 years dead when it ended. One of my favorite PCs I've played, it was very cathartic to cut loose and play THE guileful and charming social climber in a VTM game.
>>98896595Does he keep his prostate? (if you get the reference)
>>98896793I havent thought of that but sure its just not where you expect it to be
>>98892006>hey flesh crafted a bone-plate mask before embracing them, so every night they have to cut through bone just to see and eatWhy are Tzimisce like this?
.>>98895897>>98895897t b h, 5 and 9 are interchangeable between Tzimisce, Lasombra and Ventrue (the dicks).Only difference between them would be that Lasombra and Ventrue would treat them like dogs and ashtrays, while Tziggers would actually fleshcraft them into dogs and ashtrays
>>98896926The dude was an annoying tourist who kept insulting the Tzimisce after they tried to sacrifice him.
>>98894444Literally the only times this place talks about tremere is when we do weird hate sessions a out them, sessions that som't seem so ironically detached any more.>>98894566>>98894560I think you may be the caitiff who can most easily fake not being caitiff.Like if you look like a nossie and act like a nossie, why would anyone assume you're not one?>>98893800Someone wrote a thing here once about having toreador get tattoos over and over again, partly as a mandala like artistic thing, partly to just experience it.
I'm kind of conflicted on Belinde Buch. On one hand "So inhumanly pretty that it's actually grossly hideous" is kind of a copout. On the other, I think it's kind of a neat subversion, especially since she struggle sessions and tries to, I guess, perform eugenics on other Nosferatu to make them more beautiful. Though i guess she's technically a Nictuku?
>>98896803Been referring to this https://nhentai.net/g/477689/
>>98897032>Someone wrote a thing here once about having toreador get tattoos over and over again, partly as a mandala like artistic thing, partly to just experience it.Toreadors can get the Indelible Merit from Lore of the Clans V20 to keep body modifications, haircuts and so on
>>98893426Both
>>98896240Rolling
>>98897052>"So inhumanly pretty that it's actually grossly hideous" is kind of a copout.Anon... this is not what a human looks like:>Her facial expression was almost perpetually locked into a slight smile, her mouth always just a fraction open, and her eyelids incapable of blinking.They call her Mannequin Prince and Sex Doll for a reason.A childe of hers became a Harpy in /schreck/'s NYC, nicknamed Uncanny Valley Girl, after the huge multi-splat fight that culminated in >>98892350
>>98897169Why can't you join any group?
>>98895149Gotta admit, after seeing some of the pictures, I feel compelled to go as Schrödinger for Halloween.>>98894458Wonderful. I will try to transcribe the remaining gifts and add some more later this week. I also have some editor's notes for the moth document>remove "Dark Truths (lvl 3) corax pg 77" from the unsorted Pathos moth gifts section>remove the "(universal suggested)" from sorted gifts>remove the "pathos" from the parenthesis in the pathos moth gifts. Example: >Sky's Shadow (lvl 2 pathos) should just be >Sky's Shadow (lvl 2)>change the Gift names and " System: " to a bold font>>98895804>>98896393I can see it. >Cute with a variety of forms that range from vanilla to /d/egenerate>Able to regenerate so he is perfect for slapstick/torture porn>Tormented by his bane so plenty of opportunities for misery porn>very capable of being silly or terrifying depending on which personality is in control>guaranteed magnet for controversy since gender identity/expression is a core theme which is compounded by him being very sexually charged due to the specific bane possessing him.
Reading Modern Faerie Tales by Holly Black makes me wish Changeling the Dreaming was much better than it is.
>>98895980Bastet get horny posting but the horny anons probably jumped to the Kitsune instead.
>>98897934I genuinely think people who vote kitsune are just weebs who don't really care for Fera. Otherwise they're exactly like Bastet with even less material. This is why people post about Bastet but there's just nothing to say about Kitsune except.. they sure do exist.Do I choose Bastet because I want a catgirl gf? Absolutely. But I have principles and won't stoop so low as to gobble up ching chong chinaman slop. Be proud, white man, have a catwife. Even if she is a BPD Demon Fairy Cat whore who will canonically sperg out about the smallest fucking thing and actually just fucking disembowel you.
Has anyone ever actually played princess? Was thinking about running it and wondering how it was or if anyone had advice.My players really liked MAID so I wanted to lean into a few elements from that game and try a longer form anime inspired title
>>98897977Are there not Western Kitsune? Can I not do a Reynard the Fox type? Because the West absolutely has anthropomorphic foxes.
>>98898021>Are there not Western Kitsune?No! There is no western Kitsune and there is no Lynx-Bastet in Europe, either. Those are strictly native american.
>>98898027Baffling and disappointing.
>>98898070Welcome to the World of Darkness.
>>98898021nta, but the other anon is extragetating when they are saying that kistune have nothing going on kitsune are the one fera that didn't even get a breed book. before w20 they only been in "Hengeyokai: Shapeshifters of the East" which has them super tied to the east asia setting>The second half of this book is essentially the Kitsune Changing Breed Book; the Kitsune have been heavily influenced by their setting, and their fate is irrevocably intertwined with that of the other hengeyoka> Kitsune play their games with the japanese people enthusiastically as they ever have. >To sum up: Sure, you can play a hengeyokai without having to know anything about Kitsune. But you can't play a Kitsune without knowing about hengeyokai. Ergo, one book. and the only kitsune in europa and america are visitors who do the lebarbarian meme>Like the other fox-touched countries of the West, this land inspires us to go and visit in small numbers, the better to see what Gaia intended us to find there. So far, we have found a land choked with Kin-jin and dotted with courts of very territorial werewolves. Perhaps it is meant to be something to us in the Sixth Age, but all things taken into consideration, it is not as important a territory to us as the Middle Kingdom. Any land which fosters fox-hunting as a pastime is a land of barbarians which we rightly find inhospitable. >North America is a beckoning, wheedling song to us. It hosts countries that are newborns next to our history, yet that are filled with the energetic power of the West. Foxes run there, too; and so, we understand, do our mysterious cousins the Nu-Isha. The temptation to visit has led several Kitsune to the United States and Canada; they assuredly find enough to amuse themselves there for some time, for they do not quickly return.
>>98898103*the other anon is not exaggeratingsorry i had to delete part of the sentence because i ran out of space and deleted too much
>>98898103>>98898131Weebshit, whilst popular in 2010, only really took off in 2020. So you can't blame them for shafting the Kitsune. I'd tell you that nowadays they'd put more effort in but they would rather spend 10000 hours more on a single W5 book that nobody likes.Why exactly White Wolf/Paradox slowed down their release schedule by 90% whilst not really improving quality is a mystery. It's not like the company is any smaller.
>>98897977I play one because I like the fact that they can grab gifts from other species without paying extra. Plus the origami powers are pretty cool. >>98898010>Has anyone ever actually played princess?I played a princess in a zoo chronical, but that's not quite the same thing.
>>98898169>I play one because I like the fact that they can grab gifts from other species without paying extra. Plus the origami powers are pretty cool.As far as I am aware that is a storyteller ruling that is sort of implied by the texts at best. And like I said, Bastet do this too. Kitsune even stole the "sorcery Fera" thing from Bastet.
>>98898183having open the Hengeyokai book right now i think the Kitsune really only have sorcery because the bastet of the area who are all Khan don't care about it
>>98898200I assume you meant this in a doylist sense, or does the book say "They picked this up because the local Bastet are retarded." Originally the Bastet were the Fera breed associated with practising sorcery/shadowcraft. In the W20 book you'll find this gated by a merit which is purchasable by Bastet and Kitsune called Cat/Fox Magic. So what I'm referring to here is more that Kitsune sort of replicated all the Bastet schticks but made them ching chong.They got a few novel things about them but Bastet are already pretty sparse material for cannibalizing. Either way Cat/Fox Magic is such an interesting topic to me, because for the life of me I can't decide if it's a good deal.7 pts is fucking steep. You get zero sorcery paths to start out with. But rituals are often times as good as gifts of the same level, and they only cost path level x1 exp vs a gifts rank x 3. Inventing rituals is also comparatively easy. Not to mention you do get spells which can be pretty good, but often aren't. The great shame about sorcerer is how few rituals there is in the book, you don't even have enough to build raw-valid characters.
>>98898159>Weebshit, whilst popular in 2010, only really took off in 2020. So you can't blame them for shafting the Kitsune. I'd tell you that nowadays they'd put more effort in but they would rather spend 10000 hours more on a single W5 book that nobody likes.oh this book is from 1993 it's heavily pre mainstream weabonism. the entire asian sub setting back then was pretty much Mark Rein•Hagen's Vanity project that never made any money which is why kindred of the east being canned after the year of the lotus nearly tanked the company and him leaving the company happened at the same time>Why exactly White Wolf/Paradox slowed down their release schedule by 90% whilst not really improving quality is a mystery. It's not like the company is any smaller.seems to be a common trend across all tabletop publishers and it annoys me to no end. i get that they flooded the market at the end of the 90s/early 2000s but right now everything just feels too slow for me
>>98898238I was talking about W20 changing breeds (2013) which is half the kitsune material, essentially.
>>98898230>I assume you meant this in a doylist sense,yeah the Hengeyokai book doesn't even mention bastet sorcerers it only mentions sorcerers in the context of kitsune and mortalsand even then a kitsune "sorcerer" might not be a sorcerer they can follow the path of the sorcerer without having fox magic with the book pretty saying that they should only get it in crossover chronicles. It also calls sorcerer part of mage despite refering to the og world of darkness sorcerer book for sorcery so that tumor is older than i remember it being>Hedge magic is very foxy. While we'd be the last to suggest introduc ing what is, basically, a crossover Mage mechanic into an otherwise simple Werewolf chronicle, we'd be right behind the idea of letting Kitsune have access to it in games that have already delved into crossover complications.Because hedge magic is completely optiona l, we're not going to go into it in depth here. For the total picture, consult World of Darkness: Sorcerer
>>98897073Good doujin
>>98897877You just reminded me of a recurring joke from /shreck/ involving Lita's desire for a catboy. I might need to a BakeslaveXLita scribble now.
>>98896153Man I really need to get back to drawing, I had a blast with those requests. I'm really glad you liked the art. One of these days I'll do character art again.
>>>/a/>>291942142Sometimes Tzimisce can be cute
>>98898727>>>/a/291942142Let’s try again
>>98898730Animalism clan propaganda.
>>98898727I know, right?
>>98896240Shame no one did something like this for the other splats
>>98898756>changeling tit sizes and shapes
>>98898756>garou knots
>>98898814Now this... this I can see>>98898876There's not much you can do about knots compared to lips + fangs though
>>98898910>There's not much you can do about knotse621 would disagree
>>98898814>changeling tit sizes and shapesIrrelevant if they know the Art of Metamorphosis.
It's almost Halloween and, as is Tradition, we must pay our Tithe to Hell.I suggest we sacrifice bakeslave.
>>98899132A cat sacrifice, a taghairm you could say. On Samhain? Of a wyrm beast? I know exactly who to call. Book a flight to scotland.
Is BTP the true Cofd version of CTD?>Op protagonists who are capable of larping as other splats>Are reincarnated concepts from dreams>Weirdly spiteful and otherkiny
>>98899350Dont Beasts always look like normal humans?
>>98899350yeah that take is not new it was even on the 1d4chan pagebut i am not sure how true it is because i am really not into ctd
>>98898021>>98898070Make your own Fera, anon
>>98899366Unless they’re Incarnate yeah
>>98898238>1993Yeah, that’s a rough year for Japanese pop culture in the west. Post Bubble Popping, so it wasn’t really an economic fascination, but Pre-Pokemon so it wasn’t really a pop culture producing monolith. You maybe had fans of Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball but that was about as mainstream as it got.
>>98898070It's just CRAZY that this is the case, that Kitsune genuinely have to be Japanese exclusive and there's no room for like "smaller communities of Kitsune have been known across Europe and elsewhere". Also, Nuwisha should have just been a Garou tribe.
>>98899690Alternately, all the Garou tribes should have been different shifters.Which now I say it aloud is just Beast Courts, no?
>>98899704Middle Kingdom was, in many ways, one of the best settings within World of Darkness because of how integrated cross splat was into it. On a surface level this is because the White Wolf guys were just naively like "Well I mean Asians probably all want to work together and don't hate each other that much right? And everything in Asia is gonna be like Chinese mythology."But this meant that every splat had some meaningful interaction with one another that wasn't just a cop out "Mages somehow don't know anything about Vampires, Vampires somehow know nothing of the affairs of Changelings". Balance wise this is still a crap shoot but narrative wise it's way less cringe to have a Corax and Thrashing Dragon interact with one another than a Corax and a Toreador, because the cosmology between them is just shared enough that their differences are interesting points of contention than just literally inapplicable to one another.Though, Beast Courts across the world would require a total reboot of Werewolf and each splat would necessarily have to have less wordcount dedicated to what makes them unique.
>>98899538I might. I'll probably call them Reynards (Renart, maybe?) after the fox that inspired the idea. Sort of a trickster type. Have a teasing relationship with Garou because Reynard often played his tricks on Isengrim the wolf.I think this is a fun idea.
>>98897877Thanks, I've added the stuff to the weremoth document.Also, we really need a proper name for the weremoths, and honestly, I was thinking we could just take the other glabro-equivalent form names, namely that of the Tineana and use that as the breed name.I'm obviously open for suggestions.The Tineana name I got from a real moth species "Ancylis Tineana", an the word "Tineana" apparently comes from the Latin word "tinea" which means "moth" or "worm"
>>98899815Oh great, another were-moth.
>>98899132Revival of GWnet
Has anyone actually ever played an Assamites in a non-stereotypical fashion?
>>98899879You just need to make a non-Muslim and avoid making assassination and stealth the Assamite's personality.
>>98899879no me and i think i told this before but one of my players played a assamite lawyer who was embraced by the camarilla factions to play up their image as judges instead of assassins and he considered his entire clan to be insane blood obsessed maniacs who did not deserve to judge anyone on anythinghe did however manage the convince the prince that even just having a mock court system would make her far more popular with the younger kindred than just having the sherrif kill everyone who he claims are breaking the rules
>>98899883Ezio Assassin's Creed...
>>98899879Gambling addict using Jami at-Tirmidhi 1700 loophole.
>>98899879Probably but I have never seen anyone play them like that at my table. My friend had a Caitiff with their discipline but that's because he "got Obfuscate wrong".
>>98898934e621 would design Garou that's closer to the Curseborne rocker werewolf than a fuckable monstrous werewolf
>>98899865Hey at least there's some actual work done on the weremoths to be playable in the future.
>>98898453Good to see you're still here!
>>98898756>Mage ...?
>>98900471I could see like, hand signs for different traditions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epTufzrkmzkHunter videogame character creation and sheet
>>98900471>contents of mage pockets
>>98890593Cute
>>98900606>Euthanatoi all have a tec-9
>>98900740>verbena:>lipstick>various herbs>human heart (still beating)
>>98899350So besides the weird pedo vibes from the writer and trying to justify itself as somehow helpful to its victims, is Beast actually a bad game?
>>98900606[Mind 3] What's in your pocket!?
How much, and at what level, background in VTM (except Generation) would a Thinblood Caitiff need to throw their weight around without fear of repercussions from the elders or neonates?
>>98899879In a Dark Ages oneshot I played an Assamite that had gone through the training at Alamut, but at the moment of the embrace something went wrong and he gained the Deformity flaw to the point of becoming Nosferatu-tier ugly. Not sure which Clanbook Assamite I read it in but Assamites take this as a bad omen and seek to destroy the failed embrace. My PC made it out and was later taken in and blood-bonded by a Nosferatu elder that recognized the strange circumstances of a fledgling with no one to turn to and an exotic discipline and its potential usefulness as a Hound servant.On an assignment the coterie fought a large pack of wolves led by a Gangrel elder. I had prepared traps and a spear with poisoned blood, but he had that Fortitude combination discipline that shatters weapons on impact so I just went "oh shit" after the first hit.The part I regret is I could've won that fight since the Gangrel drained my Hound's blood, if I had remembered at the time to respond to the draining by converting blood into poison through Quietus. It was fun.
>>98900838Take 1 dot in Status and the Harmless Merit. But you also need the XP spent in Attributes, Abilities, Disciplines, etc. and to handle tough situation.
>>98900740>tec-9No wonder they haven't been able to have any impact. Not even magic can make that piece of shit work
What Spheres for making a perfect gf?
>>98900532This seems actually pretty competently put together. It'll never be bloodlines 1 but doesn't look bad
>>98901193>Life 5 / Mind 5 / Prime 2 to create a woman out of nothing and shape her mind according to your preferences. Add on Spirit 5 if you want her to have a soul.>Life 4 / Mind 4 to shape and program any extant woman into being your perfect girlfriend.>Entropy 5 to force fate into compelling the woman of your dreams to meet you, conveniently destroying any barriers that would prevent her from getting together with you and eroding any parts of her mind that might resist the prospect of being your girlfriend.>Spirit 5 to make a non-physical spirit girlfriend out of the ephemera of existing spirits. She'll need to manifest or possess something in order for you to interact with her in the physical world but in the Umbra, the sky's the limit when it comes to what she can be.
>>98901193Life Prime and Matter
>>98901193Sorry, Anon, but not even Mages can understand the mind of w*men.
>>98901193Time and CorrespondenceThe perfect gf is already out there waiting for you buddy, just get out of the house and find her! ;-)https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XGbJbxiXS0o&list=RDXGbJbxiXS0o&start_radio=1&pp=ygUNRmxvd2VyeSB0aGVtZaAHAQ%3D%3D&ra=m
>This restores the Changeling
>>98899879Played? No, not really. But I have seen some NPCs who do a good job of doing SOMETHING interesting with them. I don't even mind the psychotic diablerie wog concept on its own, the problem is how much real estate it eats up and how much glazing they get on account of authorial white guilt for writing them the way they did initially.But back on to topic, my favorite Assamite NPC was one a friend came up with for a game he was running. A housewife that finally snapped after years of being cheated on, brutally murdered her husband by drugging him to sleep and then cutting him up like an animal (her father was a butcher), and got away with it via bold face lying and feigning innocence. A wandering contract killer Assamite saw her as an excellent talent and embraced her soon after she got away with it. What I love about the character is that she actually operated like a real assassin. She wasn't great in a stand-up fight, Celerity was her weakest in-clan discipline. She was charming enough to talk her way out of suspicion, not ugly nor pretty enough to stick out. If she used her knife, it was against a disabled target. She wouldn't use the same poison or method of killing too often to minimize the chance of her being suspected. It might sound tremendously low standards, but an Assamite that actually operated like a proper assassin was a wonderful breath of fresh air.
>>98901366ao3 is down for 2 to 4 weeks
>>98901457>an Assamite that actually operated like a proper assassinAren't those IRL usually just desperate crackheads or glowies in cahoots with the police that don't need to hide evidence as much as we like to fantasize about Agent 47?
>>98901655Usually but there are some weird stories here and there about diplomats, spies and military inflators killing people in unusual ways but to be fair odds are most of those are legends.
>>98901655>country's most famous (alleged) contract killer>killed some low ranking mobster and one of his bodyguards in a shootout>another bodyguard fled and implicated him at court>life sentence in "max security" prison>doesn't despair, stays in shape, reads a lot, tries to appeal, rejected>escapes humiliating the police, but recaptured few weeks later>still doesn't despair, stays in shape, reads a lot, tries to appeal, rejected>granted (conditional) presidential pardon >instant celebrity selling his side of story for book and movie rights>never admitted contract killing, insists on shooting in self-defensehe's over 60 now, enjoying peaceful retirement, in better shape and financial security than 99% of men his age
>>98901366I like pictures of Chudjak smiling. I imagine that he turns his life around, devoting it to the things that makes him happy as opposed to those that make him miserable. I hope we can all do the same.
>>98902112You have such a lovely view of the world.
>>98902112>chud repemtion arcSimilar to (at least one of) marvel's loki arc.
>>98902112
Can revenant from asia become kuei-jins?
>>98902224Cooming to titty sloppa. Just as Computer intended.
As Samhain nears, I would the remind everyone that the Seelie are purposely ruining the Dreaming by refusing to relinquish sovereignty to the Unseelie Court, as is only proper. Their brazen disregard has not gone unnoticed, and should any Commoners aid the Unseelie in their effort to return power to them, their efforts will be rewarded accordingly. Unlike the Seelie bastards who enforce the divide between Nobles and Commoners, with no merit to back such claim.
>>98902224Sounds interesting, so yes.
>>98902262>Commoners
What kind of pranks do you pull at Samhain?I’ve enchanted the eggs of human pranksters so they would hatch!
>>98902436Needles and razor blades in the treats, basic but effective.
>>98902436Èggs..?`B-but I don't carry any eggs around..
>>98902436>embrace anons>tell them "welcome to clan x!" where x is their favourite one (use auspex to find out which)>be brujah
Does htv have rules on making your own conspiracies, compacts and cells?
>>98900521https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Yantra#Mudras
>>98902587>>be brujah>>use auspex
>>98902436Plastic, the eggs are plastic.
>>98902768>eat toreawhores>works for me
>>98902791Healthy lifestyle, eating lots of fruits.
>>98902768Whats wrong with auspex?
>the brujah are partying with the malks again>mao zedong red sun in the sky looping for the last 5 hours
>>98902262Am I hearing it's time for a Changeling RP thread?
>>98902924>Changeling RPSelect your fighter!
>>98902901Brujah don’t have Auspex in-clan, lick.
>>98902942alice stuff is usually the most psycho when it comes to things like that so...
>>98902954But are capable of learning it no?
>>98902962They even have one or two combo tricks involving it attributed to them IIRC.
>>98902985So whats the problem?
>>98902957Good choice.Since you already chose the best one, I'm calling dibs on tinker bell.
>>98902924Making a dedicated thread for 2-3 posters? Interesting idea.
>>98902942I am going to Alice!
>>98903039Another anon already got Alice. >>98902957
>>98903046that's not a problem just give him looking glass alice
>>98903046>>98903050Alice!
just seen the verbena's fianna girlfriend buy candy at the store. those poor soon to be dead kids
>>98902957>>98903039>>98903056Fine, you are a bunch of Alice-clones. One more and you can be blood-brothers(female)
>burgerkrieg makes a dtf video>in the first half hour he already says several things that are just wrong and he would know been wrong if he would have read the booksso much for that
>>98903094Hell yeah I love genderbending
>>98902942>no sleeping beautyI fucking hate when they leave the setplay characters as DLC
>>98902942>>98903094Although Alice-style rushdown is usually my go to, I feel like playing a zoner like Rapunzel
>>98903103Enjoy your fate, then, Alice II.
>>98903147>sleeping beautyFair.You are Princess Aurora now.
>>98902942Elsa.
>>98903167
>>98903100I could have sworn he was out of wod content to cover. Regardless, every demon fan never actually read or played demon
>>98903240are his other videos that bad too?
>>98903245Idk, the wraith one was pretty decent
>>98903100I don't know how anyone can watch WoD "loretubers". They invariably have shit takes and just having WoD lore dictated to you instead of reading the clusterfuck for yourself and drawing your own conclusions is the worst way to get into the setting. Each channel I've seen is either extremely pretentious, or doing a bad knock off of 40k lore channels. I once saw one that almost had good takes, but then they went on a diatribe about how the Sabbat needs to be more like the witches from the crappy remake of Suspiria of all things.
>>98903317i don't have experience with loretubers but i thought it would be okay to listen to while i am working on my own dtf translation guide akin to the vtm/vtr one in the op as i have some issues with the offical demon translation guide, but the video is like if someone made a video about the reddit and 1d4chan version of the game instead of what is actually in the books
>>98903317>I don't know how anyone can watch WoD "loretubers"Simple summaries that I absent mindedly listen to on long drives. It is also funny to me when I catch shit thats word for word from the wiki.
>>98903151Weird how popular futa-rapuzel is.
Trying to think of some small cities that aren't covered at all in official material and would still be interesting.Cincinnati recently occurred to me. It would be a VERY strong Camarilla stronghold, I feel. Lot of Old Money and history.
>>98903448not exactly a small city but i think it's weird that we have so little on rome outside of the dark age books
>>98903459There is Rome by Night, but it's STV material.
>>98903459Would be good for Hunter since it's probably CRAWLING with Inquisition agents.
>Held dice replace an equal number of dice on all actions the character takes. For example: If a character has 5 held curse dice in his pool and attempts a mundane Medicine action, the player takes her dice pool for the Medicine action (9 dice) and replaces 5 of those with curse dice. If the character later takes an action with a pool containing 7 dice, the player still replaces 5 of those dice with curse dice.>Sometimes, when the player rolls a pool containing curse dice, it creates altered outcomes — successes and failures shaped by the character’s Family and torments. These outcomes are called wicked successes, in which the character gets more than she bargained for, and cruel failures, in which the kickback from her curse is more than she can manage.Curseborne does the V5 thing? No wonder people never talk about it
>>98903585ewww. i hope they leave this shit out of scion and their weird "curseborne but exalted despite the fact that we own exalted" game
>>98903585XDice are pretty cringe and awkward in play, but it's not why I don't talk about curseborne. It's because the setting is garbage and I don't want to talk about, and nobody has read it to even begin to do so. The mechanics are... okay? Maybe? My eyes sort of glazed over, and it's hard to judge a game's mechanics when that game is never played by anybody.
>>98903585i don't talk about curseborne because a.) this is not the general for it and b.) i think it's mehlike i like parts of it (the dead mostly) but consider other parts pretty much unplayable (sorcerers) and that's just rules not even presentation or anything like that and i think that still makes me one of if not the biggest curseborne fan on here
>>98903103>t.
If you were making a large player count setting specializing in Demon, Beast (I know, I know), Deviant, and Mummy, how would you handle it? Each offers weirdness in terms of how they are ran (in particular, mummies having to obey cults, and deviants having to react to conspiracies). Do you think its plausible or basically impossible to run with fidelity?
>>98903094Funny you should say that, I was just reading up on Blood Brothers, and they do sometimes come in threes.
>>98903784Very well. Decide which one of you is Alice I, II and III.
>>98903782Demons suffer from what I like to call Double Masquerade. To set a baseline, a vampire will sometimes have to roll for a degeneration or breaking point, if they reveal their true nature to a mortal. There's nothing about them revealing their true nature to, just for example, a werewolf. Demons make a compromise roll for revealing their inhuman nature, and also make a compromise roll for each individual factoid they reveal about demonkind, even to someone already in the know. There's nothing that says these rules only apply to mortals.
>>98903317> I once saw one that almost had good takes, but then they went on a diatribe about how the Sabbat needs to be more like the witches from the crappy remake of Suspiria of all things.I like old country's take on saulot as a complex figure, but yeah that was odd. I like it when the Sabbat has some classical witches with your standard chainsaw maniacs and raving pack priests. Like a koldun like Esteban de Agua y Tierra doing some classic wizard shit like opening Goratrix's old chantry and see what the dickless cunt had in the basements.
>>98903795>Revealing a key fact about your true nature to humans:>There's nothing that says these rules only apply to mortals.Yeah it does actually.>Each time humans learn something significant about...
>>98903834"Human" isn't interchangeable with "mortal." You could probably get away with telling fun demon facts to an ephemeral being or a Promethean, or a hobgoblin I guess.
>>98903789I remember being Alice II
>>98903789I don't remember being alice II or III
>>98903850The only definition of human in CofD I know of is in core:>These Merits require the character remain human (non-supernatural.) If the character becomes a vampire, ghoul, mage, or any other supernatural character type, these Merits disappear. Per the Sanctity of Merits (see p. 43), these Merits can be reallocated.Lets point and laugh at mages for being inhuman freaks.
>>98903872i am a bit new to cofd. do hunter count as a supernatural template? because some of these guys seem rather supernatural (half demons etc) while some of them are just guysbut from what i can see they are all just "hunters" who took up the "vigil"
>>98903883Vigil hunters are humans.
>>98903884so they can take supernatural merits even if they are half demons or pretty much spirit hosts?nice
>>98903888I figure if you have dots in most Endowments, whether it's Lucifuge or Cheiron, you're no longer strictly human. Some like Aegis Kai Doru can stay baseline, their Endowment is just relics.
I have some questions about Awakening.I genuinely don't care for Underworld, Shadow and the three layers of Astral Realms and would rather there's just one. I imagine this would completely fuck the Death and Spirit Sphere though. I just really don't care for cross splat or reading Geist/Werewolf.Legacies - Can I make someone join a Legacy whose inferior Arcanum suddenly gets turned into a Ruling Arcanum?Factions - 2e waffles an awful lot about the Arrows, Free Council and Pentacle. Is there a document, official or unofficial, that gives a tighter elevator pitch? Like three paragraphs per faction maximum.
>>98903888Yeah, the book specifically mentions that Lucifuge can still have supernatural merits.
>>98902436I'm selling an uppity c*mmoner to sabbat as a refreshment for their party.
Malkavian with Vicissitude.
>>98903997would you rather have a Malkavian with Vicissitude or Tzimisce with Dementation in your game?
>>98903317One of them got popular enough they're now like, assisstant creative director of the game or some shit, because they were a mildly hot alt lady (something seemingly lacking from literally all other WoD content, paradoxically).Makes me wonder if there's room for improvement. Just someone talking about edition differences and themeing for clans/tribes or something like that. Less a loretuber and more a... vibestuber?
>>98902436I took a bunch of mushrooms and a couple viagra before going to a popular vampire hot spot and tricked a few of them into feeding from me.
If I want to play oWoD should I play 5th Ed or just play the 20th anniversary shit.
>>98904511Why would you use the newest, currently most un-old edition to play oWoD?Real answer is Revised.
>>9890451120th
>>989045115th ed isn't generally considered oWoD. 5th Ed is easier to find games for and is a slightly more streamlined system. 20th has all the lore as you know it, and if you play it you will probably play with grognards.This is for Vamp. If you want to play werewolf, 5th is a disaster, where vamp got downgraded in lore, woofs got anally raped. Mage and Changeling simply don't exist in 5e, not to even mention the more obscure splats. So if you have any interest in those, it's also 20th. If you just want to read lore, read the old stuff.
>>98902942Snow White. She is the first.>>98902924Changeling: The Dreaming, or Changeling: The Lost? The latter is more popular as seen in the polls a few threads ago.
>>98904511V20 is the gold standard because it is a compilation of what came before with a little less jank.V5 is the current edition in its twilight years. It is nice for very low end games where your character has previously little control over their own instincts.VtR2e is the hipster edition for people who want better rules for basic shit and mortals.>>98904526Werewolf 5 only actual worth is scrapping it for parts in regards to the gifts and about... 3 merits that make you go "weird those weren't a thing before" biggest example being clement lupus.
>>98904586Dreaming has more of philosophical/pretentious thing going on in regards to life and art but the execution is mediocre enough you are better off playing Mage or Bygone.Lost is basically The Amazing Digital Circus and it gets memed on for largely the same reasons.
>>98904008I think I have better chances with the malkavian being more interesting, give them a 7 dot version of Promethean Clay so they can make you look like how he perceives you and you are probably good to go.The Dementation Tzimisce takes more effort to pin down limitations and goals.
>>98903884Yeah, on paper even their tactics and endowments should be universal but they get to keep them out of sportsmanship.
>>98904617What makes you say that about Lost?
>>98904708TADC mirrors the Lost's durances and some of the powers like how Jax basically has Light Shy.You end up with a lot of the same reduction to "abuse simulator 9000" specially because of how much of the game is about rebuilding your life and self.I'm sure there are some other parallels between them but my headache isn't helping my memory. Caine does feel like what you would expect from a true fae tho but that might be cope with him being the only character that recently resembles the concept.
>>98904586I don't know. I respect that CofD Changeling is more popular but the CofD setting is just a lot harder to work with for RP stuff and fun characters. Can't turn the Get into semi-loyal pets in CofD for instance.>>98904524>>98904511Depends who you're playing with. If you have to deal with people newer to the setting or normies like me ease of access and convenience have to be balanced with your taste. Id recommend 20th
>>98904725Both versions of Changeling have detractors who reduce their premises down to a pithy, bite-sized and ultimately unfair meme. Lost is a fairy rape trauma simulator and Dreaming is an otherkin escapism simulator. Both games are more than these snide reductions.The key issue with your TADC comparison is that Changeling the Lost is about how changelings adapt after they have left Arcadia and have to exist in the normal world again after experiencing all of the wonder and horror of the True Fae, while the cast of TADC never get to leave their domain of their 'captor' and the story is about adapting to life trapped in that hell. They don't get to move on or rebuild their lives, they have to find a way to remain themselves while being trapped in a life they never wanted forever.
>>98902436Man, I hate it when I'm egging someone's house and instead of covering it in egg yolk I end up covering it with dead chicks.
>>98904778While it is true that is is true that they never get to leave the circus, that does hit a few of the major emotional beats that lost has in regards to doing the best you can to maintain your sanity inspite of how they have been changed.
Kindred, it's time to feast! How many kine are you going to munch on tonight?
>>98904892I'd argue that there's a massive difference between learning to cope with a miserable existence that you can't escape from and learning to live again after enduring a transformative experience. They're both stories about coping, but that's kind of where the similarities end.
>>98904586>more popular as seen in the pollsYou mean the rigged polls? The ones where the Get of Fenris are the “most popular” Tribe despite no one ever talking about them? Waiter, Waiter!!! This guy needs more than a grain.
>>98904897My goal is to reach the 300
>>98904911Whats there to talk about ? They are the most werewolf werewolves. Just smash faces and kill shit in the name of Gaia.
>>98904897At least 50, but I'm fine with 20. You're not going to get this much easy blood anytime soon!
>>98904897>>>KindredDumb lick doesn’t know the Cammy doesn’t “allow” them to do that. As for me and my pack, we’ll be playing a game of Trick or Treat.
You know what, I'll cut them some slack. If they really think the second alpha isn't ready, I won't get angry at them for passing up an October release.
>>98905022Are the Hecata still the Giovanni? If so, then fuck off with that shit. “We listen to the community”, my ass.
>>98905031Why are you so outraged about V5 lore being changed?
>>98905022>You know what, I'll cut them some slack.You really shouldn't. This is the same company that's been engaging in corporate doublespeak bullshit since day 1 of owning the IP, and that first alpha already proved they really have no clue what they're doing and just trend chasing. Mechanically, it's not going to be a good edition no matter how many playtests they do, unless they completely start from scratch. More broadly, a successful V6 is a loss for the fanbase as a whole, since it only prolongs Paradox's disastrous custodianship of the IP, and creates a FOURTH WoD setting to balkanize us further along the lines of.
>>98904942Can I come? I wanna see if I can Malleate two people and recreate Split Face from The Thing.
>>98905037No, I’m pissed the Giovanni were bought back. Keep those incest-loving, cousin-fucking, inbred Soprano knock-offs down. Bringing back the Cappadocians was the only good V5 lore changes.
>>98905050I used a character generator with V6 yesterday and recreated my standby character (Toreador Ancilla Opera Singer) and was absolutely fucking baffled by the life path system. I liked the idea but it’s genuinely confusing to me. I ended up with like three havens and two random assistants and like was known in several different scenes. It was very weird and confusing.
Whoever keeps turning recently embraced kindred into little girls needs to stop
>>98904942>Limiting oneself to the vocabulary of one sectI shiggy diggy >>98905148No>t. Unseelie Fae
>>98905148Why the fuck are you posting this pedophile slop every single thread?
>>98905148Ventrue whose feeding preference is Convicted Child Predators
>>98905177Does it have to be convicted predators or do unconvicted predators work? I dont think conviction status changes the quality of the blood that much
>>98905121I think those are like backgrounds. You're not supposed to have three separate havens, but one fairly nice one (unless you specifically want three lesser havens). Likewise your two random assistants should actually be one two-dot retainer who can be trusted to do more than just handle your laundry.I'm actually kind of glad the V6 life path system is at least more lenient than Curseborne's. That game's life paths don't just dictate your skills but your attributes. I tried to make a Warden who passed himself off as chivalrous but secretly wanted to just get into fights, and between my family and lineage I could only allocate two dots to my physical attributes. I had to settle for the "Fighter" Role just to salvage the character.
>>98905193i mean neither would "war veteran" or "defeated by a specific german knight order" so the ventrue's blood preference could be completely about the conviction not even about if the convict actually did it and it wouldn't be out of line for ventrue
>>98905200Ventrue tastes and their intricasies are fascinating
>>98902942Belle, Ariel, Jasmine and Cinderella are still available. Any takers?
>>98905296I am already Alice
>>98905304Which one?
>>98902942>>98905296Taking Ariel! Finally… finally! I will be able to sing beautifully!
>>98905296What is their body mass to Prime conversion rate?
>>98905311American McGee Alice
>>98905313You are a fish
>>98905322And you’re a filthy air-breather. And a surfacer too!
>>98905313>>98905384
>>98905384Miranda, my beloved…
>>98904911The Get are just very cool without any of the downsides (for 4chan) of any of the other tribes>Actually honorable (for a Garou)>Had Nazis in them, also killed Nazis in them>/fit/ in several ways, even /fitlit/>Actually takes care of their kinfolk>Not retarded wolvesSure they're also the most /killthewyrmNOW/ type of retards but it's not necessarily a downside
>>98905401As if you could tie up mermaid royalty!>>98905454You’re a man of good taste
TOTAL SEELIE DEATH
>>98905505You won't do shit. Thousand years more of Seelie rule.[Sovereign 2 + Fae 1]Now polish my shoes.
>>98905464>Actually honorableJust don't lose an honor duel to them since they don't accept honorable surrenders, or have territory that they want, or occupy a higher station and be from a different tribe or a woman, or be of lower station and from a race they don't like.>Actually takes care of their kinfolkUnless they step out of line. They're noted as being the most authoritarian and also believe that their kinfolk women don't have the right to not consent, since they must respect those of a higher station. >Not retarded wolvesThem being the most /killthewyrmNOW/ makes them the most retarded of the wolves. Their "A Tribe Falls" scenario is just them falling for the White Howlers trick again.
Anyone else read any of Evola's Revolt against the modern world? If you set your mind a little it reads like literal Seer propaganda. It's great. Makes the crazed italian sorcerer 'baron' thing even funnier. Most of his Traditionalist stuff does, actually, though only Revolt as actual propaganda. The rest of his stuff varies, with a slow lead in to 'hey maybe seers are right'in mystery of the grail to standard mage initiatory weirdness in meditations on the peaks.
>>98905464>Actually honorableYou’re mistaking honor with “Might makes right”
>>98905689>EvolaSorry, I don’t engage with pseuds>SeersSorry, I don’t play shit versions of games.
Do you think Gangrel the Wrestler still exists in World of Darkness
>>98904778I don't like the Dreaming because of reasons besides the ones you've put down actually>You're actually special (Otherkin)Nah, I don't have anything against this.>Escapism (Banality)Also don't have anything against this, although I'm LESS open to itWhere I drew the line is the same line I drew for BTP. >You can do whatever and it's justified>You can LARP as other splats
>>98905850Probably.
>>98905873That and I hate elves for reasons I cannot quite put down.
I know it's possible to give a Kinfolk a dot (or three) of Gnosis, but is it possible to give them Rage?
>>98905890That Kinfolk book says they can't have Rage.
Anyone got more info on merfolk? Wiki and 1r6chan aren’t enough.
>>98905899Blood-Dimmed Tides book, it's in the mega.
>>98905909Thanks. Is it fun/viable/possible to play them in a CtD chronicle?
>>98905930If your game is about oceanic scenarios, yeah.
>>98905894>>98905890Via gift of rage, perhaps. If you thus made a fetish or something that gives the holder permanent +1 rage or lets them cast gift of rage, yeah, sure.
>>98905676>Just don't lose an honor duel to them since they don't accept honorable surrendersAccepting an enemy's surrender is tantamount to allowing that enemy to gather its strength to strike again. It is an act of weakness.>have territory that they wantIf anyone is too weak to defend their territory then they do not deserve it and that includes the Get.>occupy a higher stationIf anyone is too weak to defend their station then they do not deserve to keep it and that includes the Get.>be from a different tribe or a woman, or be of lower station and from a race they don't like.If you are able to prove that your strength is equal to that of the Get then you are worthy of respect. It just so happens that other tribes do not cultivate strength to the same degree, human society discourages the cultivation of strength in women, Garou of lower station are less likely to possess sufficient strength than Garou of higher station and the cultures and socioeconomic conditions of certain races prevent them from cultivating strength to the same degree as the core ethnic groups of the Get.>Unless they step out of line. They're noted as being the most authoritarianThey are not tolerant of Kinfolk stepping out of line but they cherish and value their Kinfolk. Garou who abuse their strength to assert dominance over innately lesser Kinfolk are pathetic and typically punished by the Get. Fenrir Kinfolk must be honored and respected.>Them being the most /killthewyrmNOW/ makes them the most retarded of the wolves.They are the tribe who take killing the Wyrm more seriously than any other tribe. Every other tribe has its distractions, the Get care about cultivating strength to kill the Wyrm above all else. The Sword of Heimdall was purged precisely because it tried to distract the tribe from this goal with petty racial purity nonsense. This purity of focus makes them the least retarded tribe when it comes to fighting the Wyrm, what-if Time of Judgment scenarios aside.
>>98905955And if there isn’t?
Is Toreador the Clan that is most widespread? Seems that while they're usually associated with the Camarilla, Toreador Antitribu were core members and founders of The Sabbat, and it feels pretty common to find Toreadors amongst the Anarchs, to the point that in Bloodlines, Hollywood was only Toreador with the Nosferatu being underground.
>>98905873>>You can do whatever and it's justifiedBut enough about Mage
>>98906036Heh
>>98906014I'd say they're second to the Brujah who are in every sect and seem to embrace more people. Both Brujah and Toreador are very "effective" vampires when it comes to dealing with mortals, blending in with them, and adapting to current year tech, and their disciplines can be super helpful to fledglings in general.
I'm not sure about *the* most widespread, but they are among the most widespread clans. Br*jah embrace like rabbits. There are so many nosferatu down there I wonder if anyone truly knows their true numbers. Sneks are almost everywhere too.
>>98906060Part of me wonders why there's so much Brujah/anarch wank in v5
>>98906036Problem?
>>98906100because it's the most progressive seeming? It literally is that deep. Think about why they removed sabbat from play and then remember that neonazi brujah controversy (a thing that's been in vampire for all its lifetime), now think what sorts of people are making v5 and what kinds of voices they listen to.Of course the soulless corposlop machine would make things as safe, harmless and unoffensive as possible.
>>98906100Retarded vampires for retarded writers and retarded players.
>>98899350>larping as other splatsPlease saar I am obviously a werewolf
>>98906145
>>98906002You get a few powers you will never use effectively nerfing yourself and your frailty might kick you in the nuts with the strength of a draft horse, it depends on the Kith and version.
>>98906152>>98906145I absolutely fucking hate how the internet turned skinwalkers into "UHHHH IT'S LIKE THE ALTERANTE FROM MANDELA CATOLOG!"Ffs I'd love a horror movie about REAL skinwalkers that are myth accurate
ALICE歪みP ‐ 絵本『人柱アリス』https://youtu.be/eW2RAcp1DiI
>>98906048Yeah, it makes sense that the more human-like clans would be more widespread. I guess in some ways they're also opposites of each other too. The Brujah are associated with strength and roughness and are often depicted as, but not exclusive to, Anarchs, whereas the Toreadors are often depicted as graceful and are stereotypically Camarilla.
>>98906344Skin Walker were mainly /X/'s take on the concept of a wendigo so they could add memory manipulation to the mix.
And super heroesCome to feastTo taste the fleshNot yet deceasedAnd all I knowIs still the beast isFeeding
>>98906100Mostly because they are the only ones who have the balls to stand against the major players even if they are too stupid to actually achieve anything of note without the writer's hand being in plain view. Like for fuck sake all their fucking positions are the same as the Cam with new names at least the Sabbath have the paths of enlightenment to make things more interesting.
Give yourself over to absolute pleasureSwim the warm waters of sins of the fleshErotic nightmares beyond any measureAnd sensual daydreams to treasure foreverCan't you just see it?Don't dream it, be it
I remember doing the timewarpDrinking those moments whenThe blackness would hit meAnd the void would be callingLet's do the Timewarp again
>>98906410I enjoyed Beast but mostly as a shitpost I want to lean into the power building but that a whole thing in game like pledges in Changeling.
>>98906431I fucking love the Hunters in Beast that are like the Ex-Marine and the “Heh, nothing personnel, kid” office worker. They’re just like normal people lmao.
>>98906430Noicehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC1E8yVJIS4
>>98906437There was like 1 interesting Hero with the girl in a coma but the rest were ok, usable bit mostly forgettable unless you add some memes like using the Avatar Marine as the portrait of the military veteran or your friends as the "nothing personal" guy.
Did you guys get tricked this year? How many kids came to your door?>>98906445
>>98906522I live in an apartment in a very small building (mostly old folks). Nobody comes to my door.
>>98906542Gated community in the Philippines, I haven't seen anyone here.
>>98906564Thomas Markle, is that you?
>>98906580I'm not Ritch enough for that.
Just checking: there really isn't any Presence power that specifically makes the victim horny, right?
>>98906708Inflicting nymphomania upon a target is a malkavian thing.
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