Every space opera RPG is better with its own species of alien cat people (or nyaliens as I like to call them)
>/tg/ - random gooner bullshit recycled from /co/ and /a/
Why are we getting raided?
>>98876215because (current year) =>2016
>>98876205ironically if OP weren't a tourist shitposting and just wrote "can I get a catfolk thread, scifi edition" no one would think they were raiding, someone would dump a bunch of pics, and two idiots would argue about what level of furry is ok allowed and someone would try to start a conversation about what racial abilities are best for cats.
My main problem with feline aliens is they tend to either look too much like a furry in space or just like a stripper in appropriate cosplay.
>>98876195M'ress's breasts are NOT that big
Counterpoint: Space Bunnies.
Pulver... Please...
>>98876652Sigh...mating press it is, then.
Catgirls from space you say?
Important question: Should the cat aliens be strong and ferocious, or smart and nerdy?
>>98876912As with any good Sci-Fi, avoiding monolithic cultures is the best. Individual catgirls may be strong, ferocious, smart, nerdy, or any combination of traits. I'll even grant you that a culture may be more likely to produce a catgirl of a certain temperment. But they should by no means be all alike.Except for the clone society of the Copycat species, of course.
>>98876912Yes.
>>98876912The only cat people I ever created for fiction were:1.) Pretty communal (in property and activity).2.) Blunt to the point of being rude (they considered polite obfuscation, on the other hand, rude).3.) Very good-tempered, but could instantly flip over to murderously violent and then right back.4.) Pursuant to point 3, based their justice culture around violent correct.They also liked to get rip-roaringly drunk on fermented fruit and do insane shit like jump between two swinging ropes while blindfolded.>>98876912The slightly longer body (and/or different limb proportions) is something more of these demihumans could stand to have.
>>98876330Nah, one of you would shit on it anyway while lamenting things you could easily change. Its all you know how to do.
>>98877024>Pretty communal (in property and activity).Interesting. So based more on lions and domestic cats than any other cat species? Or was this property considered outside the feline inspiration? Was it more matrilineal in the way of domestic cats with a lot of mothers, sisters, and daughters forming groups while the males genuinely go solo once they're old enough, or was there a father of the pride, so to speak?
>>98876195I am currently creating a race of mole people for my space fantasy daggerheart campaign set in the Solar System. My main idea is that they were artificially created to perform a specific mission on Mercury, which in my setting has been partially terraformed and consists of a network of subterranean caves filled with jungles and tropical vegetation while the surface is still uninhabitably hot. The ancestors of the Mercurian mole people were sent to Mercury millennia ago in order to hunt down a specific monster which was terrorising the human settler population. However, they failed in their mission, and the surviving humans began worshipping the monster instead, declaring independence from the Terran empire and becoming their own isolationist society (vaguely inspired by Mesoamerican and Amazonian natives). The mole people, hunted down by the Mercurian humans, eventually went into hiding and created their own society as outcast tribes hiding in the jungle caves, and are thus locked in a deadly struggle which the Mercurian humans, increasingly organised and numerous, are ever closer to winning. Aesthetically, I want the mole people to be inspired by Tibetan and Vajrayana aesthetics. I imagine them as hulking and tribalistic, of course almost blind. I'll eventually ask our resident artist to make a drawing of them and post it here.
>>98876998>Copycat species
>>98877048It was kinda its own thing, but I was thinking of them more in domestic cat and lion terms than your usual 'solo apex predator' species, yes. I made them relatively equal between the sexes, simply because I had other male or female dominated races, though clans/communities were probably more matrilineal, yes. Parentage was never in doubt for them, you could tell a kit's father (and mother) by their smell, Obviously, this also made it easier for them to intuitively recognize who "belonged." Fairly few notions of privacy, most of a community was expected to pitch in what they knew to help rear kits, though birth mother and father were the most influential adults in their lives by default.The communal thing was an attempt to try and riff on the much-loathed kender and their "not stealing" stealing. Petty property circulates in their clans in a very fluid fashion. They don't ask each other most of the time because implicit in a request is the assumption the other might refuse, which is like calling them selfish in a passive-aggressive way.More plural groups learned how to "ask" with other races they got friendly enough with. Though "asking" came off more like "telling," because they still assume you'd allow it by default and they don't want to insult you by implying you might refuse. I mostly used this for comedy.
>>98877058I had a concept I was workin' on for a space-opera style campaign where early on in the space race, mice came back from Soviet space-flights altered by cosmic radiation that unlocked a capacity for increased intelligence. After countless generations, these Myshi now form an invaluable part of space-faring society. Their small size means they don't take up much room or resources on a ship and generally work as engineering and maintenance, able to get into the small conduits to perform repairs. Nearly every ship in the faction has a colony of Myshi living on it, dashing about with microtools.
the alien catgirl that crashed in my backyard after I introduce her to the wonders of human hedonism:
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>>98877029>one person is enough to ruin things for him>he doesn't deny the tourist allegationsSo is this going to be one of those threads that devolves into you posting racial crime statistics, or is that only the elf thread shitposters?
>>98877337what is this ugly ass style
>>98876912Neither. They should be autistic antisocial fa/tg/uys. Look at this idiot. You know he paints minis but never goes anywhere to actually play games with them.
>>98877371"We want the Reddit & Memey audience" style. Apparently despite looking like shit and being sold as another bit of the current awful skinwalker Star Trek, it was actually decent.
>>98876646based space cats
>>98877381I'm loathe to post them here due to hostility.
>>98877371CalArts.
>>98876586transporter malfunction, decided to keep 'em for a while
>>98877400That's not calarts, she actually failed out of calarts. It`'s trans-fetishizing tumblr art.
>>98877380>Apparently despite looking like shit and being sold as another bit of the current awful skinwalker Star Trek, it was actually decent.Yeah, because the writers actually gave a shit about Star Trek and clearly had a love for TOS, TNG, VOY, and DS9. Sure, there's always plenty to make fun of, but most of the A and B plots in Lower Decks could have worked just fine (albeit played more seriously) on any of the original TV Treks. There's even a comic where Shaxs shows up on another ship in a perfectly straightforward manner and it's implied most of what happens on Lower Decks is entertaining embellishment.
>>98877380>>98877421Yeah, the first season was pretty bad though. But when hasn't Trek had a rough first season?Prodigy is also good
>>98877400That's not remotely calarts. Its a rick and morty spinoff style, and those shows never fit in or came from the calarts mold. Besides, studios burned all the artists of the calarts era. You're more likely to see them in indie animations now than anything else. Hell, a fuck ton of them are doing shit with Glitch. Lower Decks is a spinoff of the spinoff style developed by the rick and morty people, and that animation's DNA is in the adult family cartoons. Calarts would be too proud for that.
>>98877421You can tell their love of the franchise because they slip in obscure jokes about the old animated trek series and they have the best Klingon characters in the franchise. No one else respects or understands Klingons like them.
>>98877434EXPERIENCE BIJ.
>>98877427It's the trek rule. 1-2 first seasons are awful, but then it gets really good. It kind of happened with PIC too. I almost ALMOST thought that was going to happen with DIS with season 3 seeming almost not bad, but that did not even last that whole season. So the only good nutrek is lower decks.
>>98876195Not /tg/. Furry "fandom" goes on >>>/trash/
>>98877394I wouldn't worry about that, people here are too out of touch to know enough to think they're supposed to hate it. Besides the game system's not officially out so there's not much to say about it until it is. Unironically they seem like they have a good idea of making the Dnd 5.5 race rules work by giving all their races actually interesting shit. The cats have some fun abilities.I mean of course cats have advantage to resist grappling. Have you ever tried to pick up a cat that didn't want to be picked up?
>>98877459>catgirls aren't /tg>posts 40k memeno one tell him.
>>98877329>/pol/ shit out of nowhere >but everyone else is the tourist What?
>>98877459you WILL succumb to the kitty ladiesJust like the person that drew your image did
>>98877371>what is this ugly ass styleIt's a humanoid version of a quadruped with a tail. The hind quarters will look a little weird no matter what.
>>98877374He's just like me for real
i wish the Hacan from Twilight Imperium had any kind of fan art; silver-tongue trader liongirl that has enough money to buy out my entire fleet twice over, imagining that something activates in my heart and in my boner.
>>98877434>You can tell their love of the franchise because they slip in obscure jokes about the old animated trek series and they have the best Klingon characters in the franchise. No one else respects or understands Klingons like them.And also a Pur-aski CMO!
Most things get better by adding cats to them
>>98876912Neither.They should be fat and lazy, like most cats under civilized circumstances
>>98877024Only cat people I've created were a xenophobic Viet Cong French foreign legion type thing that lived deep in the wilderness and would murder anyone who wouldn't leave them alone.
I am working on a story set in my autismal biopunk worldbuilding project, where one of the main character is a genetically engineered catgirl.
>>98876652>space bunniesredundant because all bunnies come from the moon. this is well known
>>98877813>>98876652star wars has the bunniesstar trek has the cats
>>98877813But they're not on the moon, they're in space.
>>98877854The Moon is in space.
>>98877858Well, not anymore thanks to that bunny.
>>98877858So is Earth....Mother of god.
>>98877813The moon, you say...
it's all fun and games until the alien cats go full conquistador
>>98877914i was going to make a 'haha wouldn't that be horrible' post but that actually looks horrible.
>>98877882Wait a second...
>>98877928we simply have to be on the offensive and strike first
>>98877928don't worry anon, your children will be pampered little pets in fuzzy collarswell, not yours, you'll be neutered, but you know what I mean
I felt myself compelled to make my cat people stand-ins for poorly integrated minorities lately
>>98876561>stripper in cosplay>problemlolgey
>>98877734Also Canonly she fucls>LIKE A FUCKING MINX
>>98876195It only works if they're portrayed as actually alien, and not just a human in an animalsuit.Old school Traveller depiction of Vargr were truly alien, compared to Mongoose's depction of them in nuTraveller where they're just humans in dogsuits.Unless theres a valid inuniverse reason, like the Coalition in Palladium Books RIFTS, it just comes off as lazy and overrated writing.
>>98877734Kill yourself ND
>>98878133>>LIKE A FUCKING MINX
Feel like a lot of modern scifi forgets all about how much a staple it was to straight up have space cats, lizardmen, and insects.
>>98878459I don't mind harder sci-fi or the at least having a plausible explanation for things in a setting. There's nothing wrong with verisimilitude. But I agree that sometimes you just want to have something fun without needing to justify it.
>>98876912The Kzinti-Lyran spectrum.
>>98877371CalArts 'style' aka cheap and incompetent.
>>98877380nope. lower dreks is horrifically insulting to trek. lore and character assassinations everywhere
>>98878459that's what neon odyssey is for.
>>98877421hell no they don't, you koolaid press junket swallowing fool! the LD team shat all over trek at every possible oppurtunity.
>>98878618fake trekkie spotted. >>98878615>doesn't know what calarts
>>98877434>>98877428Jesus H Christ you fucking shills are insane.
>>98878636>>98878630>>98878615>>98878618>so mad people like a thing he hates, he has to reply to every post individually >has nothing to contribute to the thread besides being a whiny bitch with wrong opinions
But how many breasts should they have?inb4 "one"
>>98878650If I had my way 6, but that's why they'd never let me have my way.
>>98878657Voices of the Void's success has made it more acceptable.
>>98878661I'm not sure that's true but I'll pretend it is because I'd like it to be.
>>98878608three pairs of mammaries?
>>98878700Wing Commander was based like that.
>>98878650>>98878657>>98878661>>98878700>>98878728Yes.
>>98878632fuck off you senary you're such a johnny come lately you aren't even fucking secondary or tertiary.ANYONE supporting lower shit is objectively anti trek. you fucktard.
>>98878647you literally are shilling for Nu-Trek, where everyone is a psycho narcisstic asshole, the federation is evil morons, and the entire fucking point of nu trek IP is doompilling and blackpilling. its fucking demoralisation, from asshole commies who HATE trek for what it always was. ASPIRATIONAL.
>>98878807I'm g uessing it would make sense for the fingers to be extra long to support retractable claws and still allow a certain measure of manual dexterity humans have.My personal autism would opt for permenent extended class extending from the digits where the nails would be but it's whatever.Also, we need hyper extending jaws.
>>98878848>>98878855Oh, I wasn't aware we had a cross-board schizo here. Shouldn't you be haunting a /co/ thread and shilling for Shark Tale or something like that?
>>98878855Not that anon but as much as trekverse should be aspirational I personally hate how they shy away from the potential realities of the world they live in.It feels a little dystopian like Earth Gov wants to maintain a particular image and you better tow the line and say that you are above such petty things or else.I'd kill for a Trek series that just explores the day to day and general fuck-ups of people living on Earth and those who have to deal with them.
>>98878864wrong. its not dystopian at all. that is why you don't GET it. earth gov is dystopian because bablyon 5's humanity has yet to actually change, fundementally. star treks humanity IS better, superior than what they used to be, because the horrors of ww3 and the eugenics wars finally shocked humanity enough.
>>98878862> muh /co/project harder, loser. i don't even go there. get a better strawman.
>>98878855>>98878848>shilling>supportingYou're so fake.Most trekkies love the show. It's practically fanmade parody. the shit you're rambling on about isn't even in the show.
>>98878877its not even remotely fanmade. it IS parody. by people who HATE star trek.
>>98878864>I'd kill for a Trek series that just explores the day to day and general fuck-ups of people living on Earth and those who have to deal with them.it would be boring because they supposedly live rather happy and carefree lives of personal fulfillment,enlightenment, and striving for self-improvement. Then what makes the federation what it is is that the excitable adventurous people all want to go to space and explore, but they also want to project their optimism on the universe. >>98878868 is right that they had a big enough scare to somehow figure out how to actually be on that kind of track and develop that insane optimism. They've kind of evolved on a cultural level into a kind of idealized version of humanity today. And multiple shows have had aliens baffled but refer to it as infectious. What people often miss when talking about trek humans being a utopia is that it's the people that became something better than us first.
>>98878855>>98878868>>98878894Are you the same spurge from /stg/?
>>98878894You haven't watched it. Anyone who has can tell the show creators are madly in love with Trek and really know their shit. They're out there making obscure callback to old-school fandom jokes about extremely specific TOS episodes, and you want to tell me they hate trek because you're projecting all the DISC crap onto them. See, I hate nutrek because I tried watching nutrek. You hate it because people on the internet told you to. You're pathetic.
>>98878910Jesus you're boring as fuck. Are you really going to sit here and tell me trekverse Humans are soo great that things like petty crime no longer exists?I guess that's why people never leave Earth Gov and live the ultra carefree life on Earth right?The fact that motives can and are no longer driven by based material desires like money and physical possessions would make for an interesting look at why people do the things they do like someone doing something cruel and evil because they are bored, or someone having a jealous fit or committing a crime of passion because they were cheated on or being terminally addicted to the use of a holodeck.I will say that I liked parts of Picard because it showed the weight of Picard's name and fame/infamy and also what happens when that social currency is no longer accepted but I guess that sort of thing is too much for some people.
>>98878910star trek humanity runs the federation BECAUSE they have chosen to be better, they HAVE changed their entire species, climbing out of the ashes like a pheonix, new, better than they ever were before. that is why the OTHER founding races of the federation, saurians, rigellians, tellarites, vulcans, andorians NEVER built a federation. UNTIL the humans came along. the human superpower is that humans build communities. star trek humans are a people who just do things, because they can.farmer joe and his clan farm 500,000 hectares on planet bumfuckania not because the EVIL FEDERATION says so, but because they LOVE the rollling hills and fields and growing things and the wet green earth yielding triticale for others to enjoy. they love running an ancient style vineyard, because they can.just like engineers Smyth and Atsuki of SCE love smashing industrial replicators together on new colonies so they can start 3d printing towns and roads and sewers etc. because they LOVE to build things that will remain centuries and centuries after them.star trek humans are the people who plant trees they will never see grow.the entire point of star trek is to remind us we can CHOOSE to be better, we don't HAVE to be assholes, selfish, vicious shits to each other.as such, all the NuTrek shows fail at the basic premise of trek, because every character is a total fucking CUNT. lower decks especially is egregious. Mariner COULD have been a heroic, inspirational black woman leader. we had Sisko and avery brooks and his character is beloved still.
>>98878934>They're out there making obscure callback to old-school fandom jokes about extremely specific TOS episodesNot just TOS, but TAS!
>>98878934wrong. i watched SNW and LD. it was horrific and insulting.
>>98878962you fucking idiots and your MEMBERBERRIES. fucking seal clapping NPC robots.
>>98878959>Mariner COULD have been a heroic, inspirational black woman leader.You mean like her Mother?Like she, Boimler, and Ransom do at the end of the series?
>>98878985No. because the show shits on mom to make mariner's insanity look less demented.and no character ever meaningfully develops in the show. its simpsons in space.
>>98878945Look at all this projection. I am looking for anything here that even resembles a response to what I was saying and I don't see it. I literally said there's people who want excitement and go to space for it. So yeah that's the federation and people breaking free of earth's government to do crazy shit. It's boring that you think boring is necessarily a bad thing. A boring life is a good one. Interesting times is a curse. >>98878959Who are you responding to? Not me apparently. >Mariner COULD have been a heroic, inspirational black woman leader. we had Sisko and avery brooks and his character is beloved still.Yeah she could have. That was the point of her character arc. That she just like sisko she lost someone to war but let it break her and made her feel guilty about moving on without her friend. And she had a whole multi-season arc of getting over it. That was her character. What the fuck kind of point are you making here?
>>98879004>no character ever meaningfully develops in the show>he hasn't watched more than a bit of season 1literal background characters have meaningful development you dinkbat. You really haven't watched it have you.
>>98878962Nah TAS is too easy. See that one is expected and is more obvious when they do it. What people don't expect is shit from TOS that too many diehard TNG era fans are not actually as familiar with as they project.
>>98878970can you make up your mind on whether you're saying the showrunners know the fandom or not? You can't complain they don't know anything but also complain when they make obscure references to old shows that aired before you were born.
>>98879023i watched until the hell space station of retards and that arc finished, with mariners mom 'banished' to lead shit station fuck.that was the utterly lowest part of the whole show. every season just kept getting worse.LD just has every god damn episode operating out of a premise that can't exist in ST.
>>98879049strawman.I never said they don't know it. I said they HATE it.
Trekkies always seemed so goddamn miserable about their show.Like almost as miserable as Techno purists or Indonesians with an IQ over 105 stuck in the countryside.It's never passionate fan argument it's existential threat-level hysterics or morose dooming Every. Single. Time.
>>98879054oh yeah they hate watched the entire franchise just to make a satirical cartoon with jokes with references only dyhard fans would even get. That makes sense. Get over yourself. Discovery sucked, its spinoffs sucked. But it wasn't a conspiracy to destroy the franchise you schizo.
>>98878959Sisko is beloved for being a war criminal, it's not because he embodied the ideals of the federation but because he went against them.
>>98879061it's one of those fandoms where some autistic people have way too much of it memorized so you can't say shit without them popping up to cite or correct it. But this creates the inverse of them too, other autistic retards who need to be performative about hating things because they aren't able to be a walking wiki for the franchise but can justify watching less by hating what they didn't watch. Two entirely different types of insufferable.
>>98879051you're not even describing shit in the order it happened. And you do remember it's a satirical comedy right? They had a goofy monster that drank bones as part of a b plot. You want this cartoon to be super serious apparently. Fun isn't allowed in the franchise where going too fast turns you into a salamander.
>>98879023>literal background characters have meaningful development you dinkbat. You really haven't watched it have you.Fuck the entire premise stems from the TNG episode "Lower Decks".
A trekkie is the reason Chakats exist and for that I will never stop hating Star Trek
>>98879108>A trekkie is the reason Chakats exist and for that I will never stop hating Star TrekMan that's like blaming Star Trek for the fact that the term "Mary Sue" exists!
>>98879108I think them being a furry is why they exist not them being a trekkie. But don't forget star wars has centaurs and that was probably also just someone's fetish.
>>98879011Interesting times are precisely what trekverse humanity should be measured against. Imagine the drama of a federation officer who actually did some bad/shady shit to get to where they are instead of just being a "bad boy" who broke the rules like Kirk and having to confront their sins.
>>98879120Mariner is like a deconstructed mary-sue. Or like the inverse of Discovery's main character. The difference is whether the show makes them suffer for their bullshit or protects them.
>>98879125Man Chakats are THE Mary Sue Furry race.You know how Hater Anon was ranting about Star Trek humans simply being BETTER than current humanity?The Chakats are all that while being psychic hermaphroditic feline centaurs...>>98879141Honestly the whole quartet were one form of Sue or another, but they make it work because they have their flaws and personalities.
>>98879108>someone's still obsessing over this shit no one else has thought about in decades
>>98879132>Imagine the drama of a federation officer who actually did some bad/shady shit to get to where they areIsn't that like every other Starfleet admiral?>instead of just being a "bad boy" who broke the rules like KirkHow much did Kirk even break the rules?
>>98879132There's the lazy writer cliche where for some reason admirals in starfleet just randomly turn evil. But it sounds like you mean someone who was always being fucked up.
>>98879161>Isn't that like every other Starfleet admiral?Is it? Anytime they are usually brought into the episode(s) they are one note road blocks the crew has to puzzle around to save the day. We know who Janeway was but we don't get to see what she was doing in between getting back home and becoming an Admiral.>>98879168We're talking about a society where your name and reputation carry actual weight so how do you make a name for yourself when there are other people doing the same thing? You can't tell me that, somewhere on the recruit to admiral journey that there arn't fuckups that could torpedo your career or jealous rivals who can and will do anything to get one over on you.
>>98879157the point of a sue is that they don't have in universe flaws. They are flawed in being too 'perfect' and too loved by the writer, that's what makes a sue. When a character is just extremely competent but has flaws, that's not a sue. Which is why I compare Mariner to Burnham from DIS. Burnham should have been in prison by episode 2. Every decision she makes is nonsensical. The characters in universe go out of their way to let the audience know her ideas are terrible, nonsensical, illogical, and destructive. And then they are exactly that. And then she has to fix the problems she created using contrived means that also should not work, and mostly for the sake of drama, and then for no reason actually works. And then people scold her and she goes "I'm sorry I won't do it again" and then does it again. That's a fucking mary-sue. Meanwhile Mariner mostly has actually sensible ideas the audience can agree with, she's performative about being like Kirk but grounded when actually doing shit, but when she does get stupid about shit she's immediately shut down or proven wrong and admits it she was wrong.
>>98879210>somewhere on the recruit to admiral journey that there arn't fuckups that could torpedo your career or jealous rivals who can and will do anything to get one over on you.that's the thing, there's nuance there that never fit the cable tv format. Weirdly Lower Decks somehow managed to touch on that better than the others shows even if only as an afterthought of a couple random episodes.
>>98879232That's what happens when you put emphasis on alien god things that cosplay as figures from ancient earth to put you through a purity test rather than explore the inner workings of Earth Gov/Federation society .
>>98879243It probably goes back to that "no interpersonal conflict!" rule echoing well past its removal.
>>98879258I just find it funny when comparing against my lived experience of being in the military. NCOs who run prostitution rings, drug dealing, getting someone pregnant or being the source of an STD outbreak or stealing weapons out of the armory to go murder your girlfriend.
>>98879210>Is it?No, but it's a trend. Cartwright in Star Trek VI is conspiring against peace with Klingons, down to doing assassinations. Dougherty scheming in secret to forcefully relocate a planet's population and harvest their planet. Kennelly made under the table dealings with the Cardassians against the Bajorans. Leyton tried to stage a coup on Earth. Pressman worked on a secret federation cloaking tech in violation of the Treaty of Algeron. Satie put Picard on a show trial. Savar, Quinn, Aaron tried to take over the Federation. Jameson was corrupt.
>>98879291I guess a lot of that is eliminated when you have holodecks to make most of that obsolete. Who needs drugs when you can have a hologram wife pour you a synthehol margarita on the beach before you fuck her.
>>98879313Fair to a degree. Looking up a lot of them made me remember some of these episodes. I guess what I'm getting at is more personal rather than just being the big bad for the crew to deal with. They are the protaganist and we see and experience their bullshit from their perspective.>>98879320I suppose, but imagine explaining to your wife that you used an illegal holodeck program so you could live out your rape/murder fantasies and the social stigma of people finding that out.
>>98879320>Who needs drugsAll the people who have to clean the holodeck after you hollowed out your dick everywhere in there.
>>98879061>It's never passionate fan argument it's existential threat-level hysterics or morose dooming Every. Single. Time.The dooming isn't all that unreasonable, though; if the Trek you liek is TOS and TNG and DS9 (or even VOY/ENT/TAS/etc. or really pretty much anything before the '09 movie) and therefore want more content in that vein.... you're just fucked, coming and going. The people who own the franchise don't care about you besides hoping that you'll get nostalgiabaited into paying to watch whatever Netflix-tier slop they churn out (hey guys, 'member the mirror universe? 'Member captain Pike? 'member that episode of TNG that wasn't about the bridge crew?) and the made-for-syndication format which formed a massive part of the franchise's DNA is deader than disco and has been for decades.
>>98878877>It's practically fanmade parodyAnd that's the issue. It's a parody being paraded as part of the mainline franchise. People want Star Trek, not "look at us, wasn't this show sooooo silly back in the day? hahhaha, look at how we fit in hundreds of references! dont you 'member the references? dont you wanna clap when you see thing and recognize it?!"
>>98879108Based.
>>98877142I love this fat bitch
>>98879141for the shit mariner pulled in S1E1 alone she should be in a federation penal colony. she never actually meaningfully suffers any consequences for her many, many crimes. its the wandavision ( 'oh look how much YOU felt the badded yor poor poor thing' to the woman who fucking mind raped an entire town into being her jacked out slaves) bullshit. utterly horrific nonsense
>>98879217dude, the literal first time we see mariner she is in a psychotic rage, slinging a batleth around and hacks a fucking ensigns leg apart.THAT alone should have put her in a fucking JAIL cell, not even just a brig, let alone all the other shit she does over the series. AND for fucking MUTINY, MUTINY in the face of the enemy, Mikey Spock should have been SHOT by summary execution out of fucking hand.
>>98879232except there isn't any of that in star trek ever. because fucking someone else over for a promotion just wouldn't even OCCUR to a star trek human, let ALONE a star fleet polymath human.
>>98879313except cartwright isn't a scheming warmongering lunatic profiteer and MIC puppet. he genuinely is fearful of the klingons constant treachery and backbiting and them becoming the alien trash of the galaxy, roving terroristic raiders. he also at least respects them enough to want to allow them to have their honourable end in making their threat over and done with. and with the ongoing history of trek. he has kind of been proven right. ALL being allies with the klingons has gotten the federation has been a fucking dk'tahg in the back. every time the federation reaches out a hand of friendship, some klingon asshole hacks it off with a batleth.>>98879291good thing star trek humanity is above all that to the point they cannot even comprehend why someone would er compromise and destroy themselves with drugs of any kind, to the point they almost never even consume alchohol, using synthahol instead.
>>98879351again. star trek humans don't do that shit.>>98879579untrue. you can take the campaigns and mission briefs from all of STA and run your crew of proper trek characters through them.
>>98876215My dude, it's been happening since Trump won the election in 2016 and all the libshits came here because the site got mentioned on the news. And upon seeing the site, they took up the righteous and noble cause of "owning the chuds."
>>98878959>BECAUSE they have chosen to be better, they HAVE changed their entire species, climbing out of the ashes like a pheonix, new, better than they ever were beforeLiterally impossible. Humanity will never be better than we are now. Science fiction has to be plausible.
>>98880304this is how we can tell you're a filthy commie that hates mankind.
>>98876195well technically mine are earthlings, too. It's difficult
>>98879159Where do you think we are.jpeg
>>98880141>it's ok to assassinate your president because you don't like the opposition and want to keep fightingOk.>he has kind of been proven right.The Khitomer Accords held until DS9 era, where Gowron withdrew from it for like a year, but the treaty was reinstated and held since.>they almost never even consume alchoholExcept all the time. There's plenty of actual alcohol served at Ten Forward and Quark's. Humans drink bloodwine, Romulan ale, kanar, etc. Replicators are capable of replicating normal alcohol. Picard's brother runs a winery where they make regular wine. People also enjoy coffee.
>>98880314I voted for Trump you libshit and I will curse the existence of socialism to my dying breath. Humanity exists in an eternal competition and that requires losers to exist. Without regular genocide of the weak and minorities there is no future for humanity.
>>98880388Don't worry, you'll get your chance to get purged in war soon.
>>98878269dbaru needs to draw more Miranda from wakfu.
>>98880388bro sounds like the kinda guy to scream for unions the moment his contract's renewal shows a smaller wage
>>98880329built for amazon pressing human men
I remember back when /tg/ actually did things, they tried to create an Outlaw Star system, but got bogged down discussing ctarl-ctarl estrus cycles and their use of human men as basically living dildos.
>>98880646tfw too based to get shit done
>>98876195This image makes me mad because true nerds know kzinti females are super dumb.
>>98880704is she really kzinti or just caitian?I see no tubular ribcage or weird fin ears
>>98880133>the literal first time we see mariner she is in a psychotic rageDrunk on Romulan Ale...>>98880137>except there isn't any of that in star trek ever. because fucking someone else over for a promotion just wouldn't even OCCUR to a star trek human, let ALONE a star fleet polymath human.>>98880141"Your world of starship captains doesn't admit women" - Dr. Janice Lester, Turnabout IntruderYou know, the one where she uses an alien device to switch bodies with Kirk because her own career stalled out?>>98880646>I remember back when /tg/ actually did things, they tried to create an Outlaw Star system, but got bogged down discussing ctarl-ctarl estrus cycles and their use of human men as basically living dildos....Was that here or /m/?
>>98881549>...Was that here or /m/?it was long before 2021, so maybe we both arrived at the same obsession
>>98881591>so maybe we both arrived at the same obsessionCan't beat the pussy...
>>98880304>Humanity will never be better than we are now.true, not while you're around.
>>98877381wot gaym
>>98882123Neon Odyssey from the looks of it, that new Legends of Avantris 5e spinoff.
>>98880126Giving farm tools to the locals during a second contact mission? And the comparison is to Burnham starting a war with the klingons. I think you're talking out your ass here.
>>98880646>>98881996Aisha Clan-Clan is a rare character that actually still sounds good in the dub.Also a based retard.
>>98882627I never know what to call those. Are they spinoffs or expansions or something else? I've heard them called too many different things. Like I've heard the WoW one called both.
>>98882702i think Partnered Content is what they're called on D&D Beyond, so probably that
Walter Koenig passed away, post more Caitians.
>>98882793FOR CHEKOV!
>>98882818Already taken.
>>98880143>star trek humans don't do that shit
>>98882702It's a third-party setting.
>>98879217>Burnham should have been in prison by episode 2Not to intentionally defend the Dumpster Fire that is Discovery, but Episode 2 of Discovery indeed ends with Burnham getting thrown in prison.
>>98876195Very true.
>>98877882Very unfortunate bout that O2 line
>>98877757isis that fucking garfield
>>98881996I want Aisha to crush my head between her thighs like a ripe melon.
>>98884118There seems to be good reason some of them have blood on their mouths or hands or hems of the dresses...
>>98882911And George Takei tried to say Sulu wasn't gay...
>>98878650nipple count = litter sizesouce is Nyako to Hakase. It's cute
>and here's my character>a 10m tall blue catgirl (male)
>>98877441I only saw the first couple seasons of SNW but I liked those. Much more than the mess that was Discovery.
>>98877823Star Wars has cats, too. Zygerrians are basically feline space drow with their matriarchal slave empire and lusting over human dick.
>>98884648that doesn't look like a cat at all, why didn't you just pick cathar instead
>>98884661Cathar look even less like cats (most of the time).
>>98877374>You know he paints minis but never goes anywhere to actually play games with them.I'll trade 3 greytiders for him.
>>98876205How new are you?
I imagine that catpeople would make for troublesome crewmates
>>98879108
>>98883726>>98881996Captain Amelia and Aisha Clan-Clan absolutely had an impact on me.
>>98884874fairly sure this is a foxgirl but the same concept applies
>>98885567
>>98876195Or better yet, multiple cat people races. I love the intrafeline conflict between Kzinti and Lyrans.
>>98884648star wars has like 4-5 cat species depending on the source
>>98885818There is nothing wrong with the uniforms!
>>98886070
>>98876195Yes, but the real question is;Ears on the side, or ears on the top.
>>98886880I prefer ears on the side but slightly above where human ears are located. Ears on top make no anatomical sense with a humanlike skull.
>>98886880Whichever looks good on the design. If it's a full on anthro with very animal features, then proper ear placement for said animal is proper. If it's more human with some animal features, then more human ear placement.
>>98886880Ear lobes on top of the head like a cat that channel the sound to ear canals in roughly the place of a human's.
>>98886052and centaurs for some reason. I won't let them forget they have centaurs.
>>98880646Speaking of catgirls and old tg that actually made shit, a space version of CATastrophe would be cool, I'm sure someone has thought of that before but I've never seen it discussedExploring derelict Earless space freighters and shit
>>98877381>>98876646This is how how you stat cat races in a TTRPG. >get lucky more easily>trigger fight or flight before initiative even starts>very hard to grapplecats are just like this.
40k felinids kill team when?
>>98886880Whatever the Izutsumi option is
How cat is too cat?for a more detailed rundown>Tier 1This is typical anime catgirl tier. Furry ears, furry tail, furless human body. This is the Aisha ClanClan tier.>Tier 2Covered in fur but still has human facial features. Furry with plausible deniability. Michiru from BNA, Izutsumi from Dungeon Meshi, Catra from She-Ra, Cheetara from Thundercats are all Tier 2.>Tier 3Classic furry. No deniability. Still mostly humanoid body, but very animalistic facial features. May or may not have digitigrade feet.M'ress from Star Trek or Lop from Star Wars would both fall here.>Tier 4More animal than human at this point. The Zootopia tier.Though it could be argued that most classical Disney and Loony Tunes characters would fit here. >Tier 5This is just an animal.Straight to jail if you ever mentioned getting turned on by Nala's "bedroom eyes".
>>98888725Yeah, I've got the whole playtest.>>98888868Probably the best way to act when you play a feline race.
>>988891991: Would.2: Would.3: Would.4: Would.5: ...Would.
>>98884123No, but this is.And it’s relevant to the topic.
>>98876195
>>98878807Monke is the superior girl.
>>98876912They should be big! On a more serious note, they should be varied, unless you have a specific reason to make a whole race have a uniform demeanor. No, being lazy is not an acceptable reason.
>>98886070>first encountered in 2378>art shows her wearing a uniform from literally a hundred years before then
Should the cats be a part of the Human Federation or have their own Catgirl Empire?
>>98890370an empire doesn't make sense for cats. They'd have a collection of semi-united frequently warring lesser kingdoms and a lot of isolationist communities. Cats don't need to be around other cats but they do need to know where all the other cats are at any particular time.
>>98890308And that art came out half a century after the show the uniform is from.
>>98890308Supply shortages, please understand.
>>98890725must be starbase 80.
>>98889321Human ears AND cat ears always irks me. Pick one or the other.
>>98892265I'd like a #6 with a side of #5, please
>>98892265This is a thing I always say for japanese "beast" characters. They have ears and tails that are just accessories. The ears may as well be something on a headband. They're so tiny here. Ears of the same relative size as cats ears are to their head would look too big on a human usually, but you need something close to that. Then a middle ground. Put them on the side of the head but raised up. Not low enough to stick out to the sides, but not too high they look weird without the human ears.
>>98892265apologies for the sloppa, but what if we made her more cat
>>98892581Honestly a pretty good use of slop.Not as good as drawing it yourself, but I'll accept it as a short term substitute
>>98883333>get quads to doubtChecked and witnessed.
>>98884648>ZygerriansI'll never be able to take this name seriously. Even only as seriously as the creators intended.
>>98892336So, cat with human ears and another pair of human ears on top of the head?
>>98892265I honestly like 4ears, especially when the worldbuilding accounts for it and has them utilize all four ears for complex echolocation like an owl. Or like VA11 Hall-A where the cat ears are just bizarre protrusions caused by gene splicing and not actual ears.1, 2 and 4 from your pic all work for me.
>>98876912They should be meowtistic
The Kilrathi from Wing Commander slot it really well to space opera.
