>"you should stop playing 40k and start playing this fag skirmish game!"why are /awg/ anons like this?
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They aren’t but you should.
>>98867306I too make up scenarios in my head to be upset about.
>/awg/ Chad's make gwpiggies seethe just by existingNever stop winning /awg/
>>98867333Battletech fan here, you don't want 40k refugees.
>>988673061. quote 5 different posts saying that2. at this point 40k is nothing but a containment game. Everyone with at least a handful of working brain cells dropped it long ago or is into it purely for nostalgia, possibly oldhammering or just painting shit. Modern 40k fans would be detrimental to any decent game or community.
>>98867306Holy shit look at those dudes, fucking sold.
I got malifaux'd during second editionDon't fall for the bullshit
>>98867563Well, Malifaux was never a true wargame, it was always CCG faggotry disguised as a wargame. You got conned. Play something soulful instead.
>>98867563>malifaux 2nd edIf there's anything I've learned about wargames, it's that everyone who isn't GW should almost never do rules overhauls that aren't incredibly minor and incremental changes, because everyone except GW who've tried it ends up shooting themselves. See: X-Wing 2nd ed, Warmachine MK3, Malifaux 2nd ed, Star Wars Legion (didn't die, but a lot of the playerbase left after the points overhaul etc).
>>98868334I know you are hoping nobody calls you on your bullshit. 2nd edition Star Wars was stronger then first and it was the 3rd edition overhaul that fucked things. Star Wars Legion had issues mostly going from FFG to AMG and first edition had so many dumb issues that remained till we got a proper second edition. The fact Vehicles are now viable, more commanders are viable, and now we don't have a pure sniper meta has shown on the tabletop with more tournaments and players.
>>98868334GW's only difference is more wounds to tank the damage, i.e. the sheer market inertia it can coast on. It certainly had its share of major rule overhaul fuckups.
>>98867707>CCGOf all the innumerable issues with the game, you pick something that's not even true
Because fun things are fun, but I get it. It's annoying when someone asks you to play another game you need to pay an app subscription for and need to buy a couple new boxes every month once a youtuber or redditor gets around to updating the community on the newest undisclosed changes to the rules. It's a lot to keep up with!
>>98868434>It's annoying when someone asks you to play another game you need to pay an app subscription for and need to buy a couple new boxes every month once a youtuber or redditor gets around to updating the community on the newest undisclosed changes to the rules. It's a lot to keep up with!bro that's just 40k and AoS no other wargame does this
>>98867306Because they want to play with you, and engage their hobby with you. Are you autistic or what?
>>98868440Nothing gets past you, champ.
>>98867563>>98868334Indy wargame companies make James look like game design and business geniuses. Then again, small businesses tend to stay small because they're run by idiots.
>>98867306Not an /awg/ player, but I must say that switching to skirmishes is how I finally managed to actually get a bunch of nerdy friends into wargaming and thank to that I know play much more often and have much more fun and motivation for the hobby. Actually committing to large scale stuff like 40k still scares them even though they like the setting, but they enjoy small scale games a lot
>>98867306I probably hurt you by being chuddy with my gay space anteaters and my racist pothead mates, but I literally don't give a fuck, because the enterprise is an end unto itself from start to finish.
>>98867306You should play Planet Shark.
millions of 40fags must be sent to death camps by their quarchad overlords
I know it's bait, but someone please tell me this game is fun to play, I know I shouldn't but I can't help it, I find those minis kinda cool and comfy.
>>98869753yeah it's a p fun skirmish game, kind of autistic to actually play because it's surprisingly crunchy. Kind of breaks when you have more than 14 models per side though
>>98867306>start playing this fag skirmish game>Posts the best wargame???
>>98867306Why do you always start threads based on shit that gets mentioned then no one wants to keep talking about on /awg/? Your last homo thread was on the LGS vs fan club shit so I'm guessing you're one of the filthy bongs.
>>98869857How fucked am I if I decided to jump in with Fidwog? Those tankettes are too cute.
>>98867306What if I told you>you are already the fag wargammerand Awgg is just trying to unfag you, but according to your fag sensibiliies, you perceive this as faggotry.
>>98870114Gotta have something to distract from being bri'ish.
>>98867306You specifically should keep playing 40k until such a time as you no longer have any interest in games and/or die.Stay contained.
>>98868334GW could shoot someone on 5th avenue while bankrolling Epstein and people would still buy their products
>>9886730640kucks should stay in their containment zones you are not wanted in other games and in the wider gaming space, stick to your overpriced tactless dogshit and 50 flavour of gay space marine thanks
>>98867563>>98868334Malifaux's second edition was its golden age. It's 3rd when it fucking fell off of a cliff and 4th has only continued the decline.
>>98867306If I had to guess I'd say they want you to stop playing 40k and play their fag skirmish game instead. Just a hunch.
>>98867306I play GW games and non-GW games because I play what I like.
>Is that the coolest fucking thing ever? and it's cheaper than 40k? nah I want my slop.Why are 40k players like this?
>>98871381>it's a black templarEvery fucking time. Add the most boring color scheme that's hard to make look nice and you have a perfect "you can ignore this cunt and everything he says" faction.
The 40kid KNEELS before the Quarchud
>>98870156Fidwogs are cool, and the tankettes are great.It's a dope as fuck kit, and more baseline kits should have vehicles AND infantry.
>>98867496Infinityfag here, I still blame them for the entire setting's aesthetic shift. I can't prove it but I KNOW they desexed the nuns, pauldroned the templars, and orked the morats all to appeal to the influx of 40K refugees they got in N3 that eventually flocked back to KT anyways
>>98871780They also have this neat tractor.My fren 3d printed this one for me.It's like a Hetzer but smol.
>>98871785>pauldroned the templarsthe fuck are you talking about?
Are we doing a separate general now? Even with the starter box out there's not that much to discuss to warrant leaving /awg/
>>98871800My bad, it was O12 I was thinking of. Torchlight Brigade is absolutely pandering to 40K marinefags and you can't convince me otherwise
>>98871816I think the most worthwhile reason to start a general, is to talk about what you yourself have done with your Quar.I have been slacking of late, one of my lads went crazy and ran off, and the other has been hit by a car, and is a bit creased at the moment, and whenever we meet of late we have been too tired to do anything but get drunk and eat a big lunch.But I am slowly finishing my Coftyran snipers and trench raiders.
>>98871837Generic power armour dudes #12431?>and you can't convince me otherwiseGiven how much of your identity you seem to have scaffolded up with "I don't like 40k" you're probably right about that at least.
>>98867306>filtered by Quarnot something I'd want to admitQuar chads would use your tears for their bidets
>>98871149>Malifaux's second edition was its golden age. It's 3rd when it fucking fell off of a cliff and 4th has only continued the decline."Let's streamline so we can engage a market that never was and never will be interested!"3rd was shit, 4th looks verging on unplayable, and they continue to double/triple/more down on adding more models to a game already too big for how deep it wants to be.Also shit Tim Burton cartoon art direction is cancerous.
>>98868334>>98871926Malifaux 3rd might have been on if they hadn't also catastrophically fucked their product delivery on release.I still don't really understand how they managed to leak their own release website, it was a very confusing corporate fuck up.
I want to like Quar but I'm not big on skirmishes.I'll probably just get crusaders until there's mass battle rules or something so my crusaders can storm royalist trenches.
>>98871957You won't have to wait too long.
>>98871780Since I understand that0s a skirmish game for now, how many boxes should I realistically get/need? One each for infantry, specialist and command? Is it possible to go all tankettes?
>>98872132I'd do that. And no, it is not possible to go all tankettes, I think. I mean, you could always set up a special custom scenario of all tankettes charging a defensive position filled with Quar armed with AT weapons, but you get two of the tankettes in the Fidwog infantry box. That's all you'll probably need
>>98871964haha, yeah.
>>98867306>Wow, that company went under fast. You know, I miss how easy it was to find games, and everyone on Discord is talking about how cool the new codex for my old army is. I think I'll stop by this coming 40k night just for old time's sake.
>>98872167>And no, it is not possible to go all tankettesSad tankette noisesHow does a typical Quar list look like?
>>9887224810 Quar with up to 3 spezial weapons and a sqad leader is the best way ro play imo.
40K made me think I didn't even like wargames. Glad I gave TC a try anyway.
>>98871918>Generic power armour dudes #12431?With massive pauldrons and more melee than guns. In blue and yellow, no less.>Given how much of your identity you seem to have scaffolded up with "I don't like 40k"Cute little armchair psychology from a wounded fanboy, but I don't even hate 40K. Hell, I even quite like it. What I don't like is things I like that aren't 40K trying to chase the 40K audience. It's a lot like how in the mid-2000s every single FPS in the vidya industry was trying their damnedest to chase the Call of Duty audience by CoDifying their games, only serving to lose their unique flavor and dedicated audience in the process.
>>98872801Well, the difference is that CoD at the time was at least mid, while 40k is a fucking terrible game. At least Necromunda and Adeptus Titanicus exist as much better games in the same setting.
>>98872307Do tankettes suck? Not that it matters, I'm getting them anyway.
>>98867306Well in their defense, do you even play 40k at all?
>>98871918Infinity's main aesthetic problem is that it has the same "sci fi dudes in bodysuits" of most 15mm generic sf ranges once you take away the weeb cheesecake elements.
>>98867306We don't,Nigga what do you think 40k is? It's a p-trap keeps the sewer gasses in.Worst wargamers.i know? 40kiddies.
Trench Crusade won
>>98867558Yeah it’s like goofy little spy vs spy guys who just fight war endlessly, they’re all different colors and mixed together too, so it’s just a “fuck off, we do not like your kind,” game.
>>98872132Gameplay is scenario based, scenarios are established to often modify standard patrol composition, and you are encouraged to make up your own scenarios, in which case, you may well play with the unit balance; it's your table.There is a "standard" patrol setup, but this is simply presumed to be the "default" unless otherwise specified.There are armoured formations mentioned in the background material, but the Fynrydhad tankette is specifically a "squad support" tractor, so it's "thing" is being attached to an infantry patrol.>>98873349They are in all honesty, vulnerable to sniper fire when not buttoned up; we have played around with allowing them to button up, or not, since as a one-man vehicle they activate in a way that's halfway between infantry and a "crewed" tractor.The problem with not allowing them to button up is that they can then be sniped fairly easily; us playing around with not allowing them to button up was likely in light of that, a misreading of intent, caused by tiredness and inebriation.Google Gemini may have been involved also; never trust that nigga, even if he says something that sounds helpful at the top of an otherwise empty search query.They are anti-infantry fire support platforms, and very maneuverable, but can be plinked to bits by anti-material rifles when you are fighting Crusaders; they have no way of directly damaging other armored vehicles though, as they only pack an MMG, unless you're using the Hobelyn Vally Ranger's variant, which has an overzised bolt-action rifle.
>>98875233 Are there vehicle creation rules in Rhyfles? I'm thinking of picking up the new starter set soon, if it's in stock.
>>98875369No vehicle construction rules, but you can eyeball the stats for a kitbashed vehicle compared to the array of existing ones, and argue about the cost with your opponent.'S what I'd do.
Is there a campaign system for Quar? With experience and levels, I mean.
>>98873777It's its second aesthetic problem. The main aesthetic problem was them curbing the weeb cheesecake elements in the first place.>>98869857>kind of autistic to actually play because it's surprisingly crunchyOK I'll bite, tell me more.
>>98875901https://www.rhyfler.com/files/FreeCoreRules.pdfCore rules are free.It benefits from a quick reference table.It's signature feature is your opponent draws a card with a value between three and five, doesn't show you it, and you have to guess how many moves you can make.Officers can make group moves, there's a back and forth resource called "pluck" that you expend for various actions, and gather from certain successful actions, like downing an enemy or rescuing al ally, it has a points based force building system, but also standard force composition charts, so you can mix and match how you want to assemble your squads.It has grenades, and bayonet fighting, and vehicles and "cavalry" and packs of attack "dogs".It uses 3d6 roll under for skill checks, but variable d6 based roll over for various tables.
https://www.rhyfler.com/files/CoRProfiles1026.pdfThere's also been a 'yuge stat update, Hobelyn Valley Rangers, new vehicles, harlech carbine rebalance and a lot of other stuff pertinent to the new releases; the tall hats factions were rolled in and updated also..
>>98867306>When I was a kid, when I was a little fa/tg/uy, I always wanted to be a Tyranid. I wanted to be a Carnifex more than anything in the world. I made my Termagaunt horde and I read the skubby lore, I stopped showering, I growled and I roared during the charge phase. Everybody at the FLGS knew me and was afraid of me. >And one day my dad said, "Bobby, you are 39, It's time to throw childish things aside," and I said, "Okay, Pop." But he didn't really say that, he said, "Stop being a fucking GW paypiggy and get Battletech."
>>98875901That's what I mean. After they made the decision to tone down the weeb cheesecake, you get eurojank mass effect
Anyone have STLs uploaded? Any infantry will do. Want to try the game and see if I enjoy painting them
>>98867306>why are /awg/ anons like this?Not all alternative wargames count as a "fag skirmish game."Many are real diamonds that deserve more attention, that Warhammer creates a "fog" over that means that the games that deserve attention and are really good don't get seen. /awg/tists basically navigate the 'fog' to find the actually good diamond games that deserve attention, but don't get it. There is that music scene hipster mentality where the big popular thing must be hated for being popular. That mentality deserves to be made fun of. It doesn't mean that the majority of /awg/ers are like that. The mentality does make /awg/tists look bad though. I'll freely admit that.
>>98876852I would, but I'm committed to helping that nigga pay his mortgage.
>>98876852>>98879196 They do have a couple of Quar figures on myminifactory for 1 USD. They were used for a paint and take event. I use them to size non official models
>>98867306Sounds like somebody didn't get honey on his ants this morning
>>98867306I wish I could get in to the aesthetics. That being said, the nu40k look is basically shittier Gundam.
>>98875883There was a barebones one in the test version of the rules, but a proper one is planned. Maybe with the mass battle rules? We don't know.
>>98879978>There was a barebones one in the test version of the rulesCan you share it? I can't find it on the rhyfler.
>>98880034Luckily I had it extracted from the old PDF and saved still. It's really isn't much.gofile io/d/GeVdpumg
>>98867306The typical /awg/ poster sadly is a very bitter and conflicted person. They rightfully despise the 40k crowd, but at the same time, they need members of that crowd to join their own gaming groups, because there is no other noteworthy community interested in wargaming, and most /awg/ companies do suck at marketing, and downright aim their product at GW Players, but not at casuals from outside the hobby sphere.
>>98878110>awg/tists basically navigate the 'fog' to find the actually good diamond games that deserve attentioIt's a constant struggle between autistic people to try to convince other like themselves that the game they consider good is actually good, and what the others seem to like is actually bad, or somehow related or alike to 40k.
>>98867306I just dont see the appeal of games that require hundreds of dollars of models, rulebooks, only to discover no one in your area gives a shit; its all risk and little reward.With a game like D&D, all you need is a laptop, a pirated rulebook (or if youre an ethicsfag, you can probably jus buy a digital copy) and some friends or local group. Maybe a grid-map and some tokens?
>>98880432>Far cheaper than any GW gameYou can get started with Quar using one box of infantry, which is enough for two patrols.>One rulebookWith full infantry rules free online and stats also free and constantly updated>If nobody gives a fuck, then that is definitionally a "you" problemGo back to the Warhammer Ghetto.I for one wouldn't have you.
>>98880083Thanks anon <3
>>98880432either retard or bot postyou can pirate almost any wargame rulebook too and then proxy the models however you and your group want to
>>98882513It's almost impossible to address all the things wrong with that guy's post.>Assumes alt wargaming products are priced like GW productsLmao>Assumes alt wargaming products are also trying to sell you bare minimum two manualsNo>Doesn't support his gamesJust as well, he's a D&Drone, and WOTC should die, but that doesn't mean we want him here.>Probably plays onlineSee: apparent preference for PDF's, which are inferior for general reference unless forced into a digital space>Doesn't understand the difference between wargames and tabletop roleplaying games, or the types of gamer they attract>Either lacks the sense to not cold approach strangers with a new proposition>Or lacks the charisma to convince people he is already friends with to try something newA bot would have made a better impression.I think he's just preposterously stupid.
>>98878110Quar is good though. You are insinuating it's bad because it's a skirmish game?
>>98885430Quar looks gay, therefore it is retarded and for fags, unlike 40k, which is masculine and for chuds. Hope this helps!
>>98885817>Take this funny internet joke by funny internet racists seriously CHUDNo.
>>98870156I think they might be authors favourites actually.>small mountainous kingdom that just farms gold and not afraid of anything>kind of swiss/scotts/australians>have squirell kangaroo cavalry and antitank dogs>won against crusaders, hard>the only entrance into their country is guarded by a mountain transformed into superheavy artillery hyperfortress of the kind you dont even get in 40k>heard cryies of help of their "allies" (its complicated) in Creevin, on the other side of the world>proceeded to create navy and expeditionary force from scratch>ship them across the world>pass through a canal they dont even fully control>land, steal tractors from a cache from defeated alliance of kings, each one can basically transport your entire tabletop army at once>stop easky blitzkrieg>somehow have logistic chains stable enough to keep on pushing and gaining groundLike seriously the little fellas are a bit hypercompetent.
>>98870156Their variant faction just got statted up.The Hoblyn Valley RangersTheir tankettes get anti-tractor guns.And they have this beer-wagon thing, which also has stats now.It buffs your Quar, but makes them better at fighting, and your squads get a guy with a long-range heavy rifle.The downside?The Hoblyn Valley rangers are militia-grade, and have skill ten.This does however make them cheap to field.
Basically when the beer truck parks up, you roll twice; once to determine how "inspiring" the presence of the beer truck is; it makes you roll between one and three for "inspiration" effects, ranging from free ungobsmack to increased movement to a +1 skill buff, but also makes you roll on this here chart;As you can see, your Quar bay become distracted by beer and playing grabass, or else go apeshit and break the action economy.Verra fun variant army.
I need to find a midget who can cosplay as a quar and do a funny little dance off to the side while I run demo games.
>>98886088>>pass through a canal they dont even fully controlnever ceases to amuse me. but we've probably talked about this before, haven't we.
>>98886632is it okay if i am female (female) (female (female))?
>>98886825yeah sure I think the femquar have boobs anyway
>>98886817Nta, but I may have been involved, it's become a topic of wider discussion since mind.We did try and hash out how the fuck they got to the theater a while back.
>>98867306Bored of 40k, same slop with GW, just with a different coat of paint over it and charging twice as much
>>98886825are you a midget though?
What I like about Quar is how "same dude with machine gun" is now like 6 kits and the difference is they have slightly different uniforms.
>>98887674That... that goes for all minis though.
>>98887679Is it though? I can only think of Napoleonics being in a similar vein.>no no, these guys have a small square bib that means Bavarians are totally different from Prussians and the French have the shoulder tassels so they're too different from the English and also the shakos are a wrong heightIt's fascinating, they're the space marines of historicals.
>>98887703can you please stop discussing the same thing in all three threads at the same fucking time? It makes me think I'm having a seizure.
>>98887713¿?You might be having one.
>>98868455If they wanted to actually engage with the hobby, they would play 40k. It's whole point is that you can just buy a package deal of models and supplies and play with total strangers.
>>98887579What are you referring to?
>>98887971Ah here he is>complex social activities with substantial upfront effort are the PERFECT icebreaker dude>Wait, why are you all going away?Games are for friends.If you are trying to play games with strangers, you have put the cart before the horse, and are probably autistic in the bad way.
>>98889504NTA but how do you make friends after college? The common advice is "go find a third space and meet strangers." Game stores seem like a pretty decent third space to do that
>>98890205Start random conversations with people.You gotta seek your opening.If you are looking for the opportunity, you will find it.Helping people is a good start, a new neighbor moving in is a great opportinity.Also, I meet a lot of people by smoking weed.
>>98890675This is certainly not how you find like-minded friends to play tabletop wargames with.
>>98890723I had a pretty regular game with at least two people on my street at different times.The people are right there man.They're all around you.
>>98890747Still thats just an anecdote. Sure i can ask my elderly neighbor if she would like to play star wars legion with me. chances are, she does not even know what star wars is. See.. same anecdote, just a different outcome. What works for you, is not universally true.But guess what: If i go to the LGS in my town, the chance that someone there not only knows star wars, but also knows legion is significantly higher. There is even a very likely chance that someone already has an army to play the game with me.
>>98891604The issue is, at your average LGS, the average gamer will want to kill you if you even suggest playing a game that isn't 40k.
>>98891621>want to try Warhammer Fantasy? I have two armies>ew, no>want to try OPR aka just 40k?>fuck off dudeI may legitimately have negative charisma.
>>98891643If you're aren't playing current edition 40k you're a contrarian faggot
>>98891621>your average LGSi dont know your "average" LGS, only the one in my town. And there are obviously a lot of 40k players, with regular game evenings for just 40k. But there is also a bi-weekly wargaming saturday, which is explicitly for all the other games. People play WW2 stuff there (Bolt Action mostly, but also sometimes smaller scale), there is a group for Infinity, some Necromunda is played from time to time, and just smaller games in general. But this is not something thats evolving on its own. the store staff needs to (sometimes strongly) advertise those theme days, and also engage in them themselves. There is a day for magic, one for other card games, twice a month there is a painting night etc. The store is also actively sponsoring events in the town, so it has a bit of publicity too, which draws in more people than just the usual suspects.But if the store is just a grumpy guy behind a counter, waiting for people to buy warhammer, then what else should happen there really?
>>98891621The LGS in my town has a posted schedule of events for various games but they also have a cork board for posting group finding and other gaming related stuff. There's a board game group that gets together on a regular schedule at different coffee shops around here, I'm not sure if they do any mini based games, though. They seem generally fine with anything that's pretty compact. Also a coffee shop I haven't been to that I've been meaning to check out is one that has a variety of board games that can be checked out. Other than that, there are meetup groups but chances of finding something for that are slim if you're in a tiny town. Oh right. Also check out game conventions.
>>98889504Miniatures are such a time sink and niche interest it's pretty much impossible to "recruit" your real friends after High School or college if you're lucky. More fruitful trying to find people already in your corner of nerddom. And 40k is the biggest corner there is, to the point it's pretty much the only game you can show up with to a random wargame night in a club or store and find someone else to play with. With other games you actually have to engage with the local community to arrange games, something hard for autists to do.
>>98892968>It's a skirmish gameIf you can't put together ten or twelve men, what the fuck are you even doing here?
>>98891604Everyone's experience is fundamentally "just an anecdote", as is your inability to find anybody who wants to play with you.The proper response to your statement is and always has been "sucks to be you".
>/tg/ is full of spergs trying to put the cart before the horseShared obsession with Warhammer isn't enough to make people tolerate one another, who otherwise wouldn't.My takeaway from this thread is that /tg/ don't have the best social skills on average, and are trying to meet people and make long term friendships by connecting through hobbies, and mostly failing.Whereas I; a surly Chud have no such issue, BECAUSE I have placed attaining friendship as my first goal.I make friends with all sorts of people.I've played Frostgrave with my fucking drug dealer for christ sake.And Battletech with the neighborhood wigger.And Necromunda with a sad sad alkie.And Quar with the schizophrenic kid down the street which always turns into a fight.I ran Runequest for my upstairs neighbor.I didn't befriend any of these people based on the premise of playing games alone; I befriended them because they were proximal, and usually tolerable company, and we often found ourselves talking in any case.Out of the wider group of people I befriended, maybe half of them proved open to playing /tg/ at some point, and out of those, about half again were up for doing it regularly.Collect friends, friends are good for all sorts of things.If you collect enough friends, eventually some of them will be open to trying your hobbies, because you are their friend.If you want to build a house you have to lay a foundation.If you want to engage in long-form deeply involved deeply social passtimes, you gotta cultivate companionship AND shared interests.Why you think all the old lgs horror stories happened?Because somebody took a chance on autistic stranger on the premise of>"Hey, he likes *PRODUCT* just like me, how bad could this guy possibly be?"The answer?>How bad can a bad thing get?>Yeah, that bad.>People who do not shower>People with no teeth>Thieves>Troons>Furries>ChomosLiking *PRODUCT* is not a basis for lasting friendship.No matter what the marketing team told you.
>>98893964>Everyone's experience is fundamentally "just an anecdote",Exactly, thats why its meaningless. And the answer is not "sucks to be you", but to maximize the chances.Guess where i can find people to play chess? The local soccer club, or maybe the chess club?
>>98894024>I've played Frostgrave with my fucking drug dealer for christ sake.>And Battletech with the neighborhood wigger.>And Necromunda with a sad sad alkie.I'm sure those are deep and meaningful friendships, but i'm not a social worker, and i rather not be in the same room with subhumans like this, let alone share my hobbies with them.
>>98894024>I play wargames with normies and retards!so which one are you?
>>98894632plot twist: he's the>Quar with the schizophrenic kid down the street which always turns into a fight.
>>98894107>>98894632>>98894655Think about it, my darling dingleberries.I can fabricate a game wherever I am.I can find willing people.They don't even have to be good people.They don't even have to be suitable people.So what excuse do you have?At all?I'm not a person with great social skills, or even working with ideal material.I did however, put in the effort to teach and facilitate.If you cannot do this, then the problem is clearly yourselves.>Being a helpless retard who can't just start his own gameShiggy>Being a paradoxically judgemental loser who looks down on the very kinds of grown men who would even play games with himDiggy>Trying to deflect from your colossal loserdom by sniping at the one guy having no trouble finding people to play with because he actually has his priorities in order DooNever complain about being unable to find a game of anything, ever again, you friendless gay homo faggots.
>>98894802>Never complain about being unable to find a game of anything, ever again, you friendless gay homo faggots.I can only speak for myself of course, but i do not. And i'm also not friendless for that matter. I struggle the most with that bit here:>eventually some of them will be open to trying your hobbies, because you are their friend.I do not want to spend (or waste) my hobby time with someone who is only into it because he/she is my friend. That is similar to how a gf never becomes a real hobbist, just because her bf does activity x or y. They will only do it, as long as their spouse is doing it, because they care about them, not the hobby. So if you are genuinely are friends with your dealer, your neighbor and the shizo kid, then that is fine, but i bet these three would never play any wargames if you would not ask (i.e. pressure) them into doing so. >They don't even have to be good people.>They don't even have to be suitable people.And that is why i rather play only 2 games per month with people that actually care about their hobby, instead of 3 per week, just so i do not have to deal with people that are not "good". Best recepie for a good life is to exclude people that aren't good. For example drug dealers, wiggers and shizos from down the street.
>>98894802You do realize that someone could easily just have both the ability to play whatever whenever AND not have to deal with drug dealers and schizos if you just ran demo games at an LGS, right?
>>98894848People can surprise you.In good and bad ways.Some of the worst gaming experiences I've ever had were with a Fabian stockbroker I knew and his repulsive middle-class urbanite "friends".He literally thought a Macdonalds fry cook was a salaried job; and struggled to understand the concept of an hourly wage. The point I am making is that if you can't find anybody to play with, the commonality is -you-.If you can't find a game to play no matter what you do, then you are technically doing worse than Sad Alkie, Drug Dealer and Schizo down the road.Let alone me; who gets as many games as I want by having a tolerance for a very broad spectrum of company, and the impetus to do the setup and organization.I mean, I also play with a cop and a supermarket manager, but that's not notable, because these are "respectable" people whom you might well expect to have what is essentially, a very middle-class hobby.If you can't deal with occasionally having to physically fight your guests, or dose them with narcan, then maybe you just aren't cut out to entertain the working and underclasses in the modern world.As for me?That's my local community.It's what I have to work with.And there's never REALLY a shortage of bodies, just people being too squeamish or judgemental to use what's lying around.
>>98894938>you just aren't cut out to entertain the working and underclasses in the modern world.Guess why i like miniature wargames
>>98894989I assumed you maybe enjoyed playing them.>Silly me.Don't come to the hood.We'll roll you for your twenty dollar casino dice.
>>98867306Skirmish games are generally gay anyway. Give me big battles, 6mm or even 2mm there should be at minimum hundreds of casualties.
>>98895054Show us your hundreds of fully painted 6mm minis
>>98895054Smallest scale I go is 10mm with battletech; I have plenty metal ral partha infantry.I like to know the names of the casualties.
>Got a game of Quar at my friend's house tomorrow>This will be the first time taking my Quar on the road>300 points per side, approximately a tank, two NCO's, three Rhyflers and a special weapon per side
>>98891621>at your average LGS, the average gamer will want to kill you if you even suggest playing a game that isn't 40kWeird, the worst I got is some funny looks, eyerolls and disparaging remarks. Have you considered not being a person who looks like they'd improve the world by dying?
>>98896567who's the top?
>>98896717We have a faggot ghetto.>>>/lgbt/You should go be gay there instead.
>>98871149Golden age? You think getting hand ripped and gapped closed from across the table is some kind of golden age? Maybe it was because my store was home to the world champions but that meta was fucking cancer.
>>98887579>Bicycles have armour plating Holy SOVL
>>98897143Has some janky maneuvers too.Try not to land on your snout.
>>98894848>they care about them, not the hobbyBut anon, that's kinda the point of it all. If you only want to play with people that are as much of a hobbyist™ as you are, then you're in for disappointment and finding people that might not offer much else beyond a shared interest. It's no use being puritanical about it.One of the greatest things in life is sharing the things you enjoy with others and also allowing them tho share theirs with you. It's ok to be the friend who's more into the hobby, just as there will be friends who are way into tea, ping pong or Czech cinema. Sharing with friends will always be a joy, and slowly, you can also get them into the hobby, much like how you can get into the things your friends enjoy.
>>98897206The most striking thing about Quar as an outsider is that it treats itself seriously as a wargame, its rules have crunch and depth, but it also always remembers to have fun and create interesting situations for the players.It's honestly refreshing, particularly in an age where the big games feel incredibly restrictive and dismissive of anything remotely fun.
>>98897211Nah, normal people can do things like that./tg/ isn't inhabited by normal people though.It's inhabited by spergs.And Spergs always do things backwards, because their priorities are backwards.Nigga would build you a Roman villa just so he had something to draw the schematic from.
>>98897236It seems to have decent interest retention too.I've played it with three different people so far, and everybody I could convince to play one game, always came back for a second, third, fourth, etc.It's a bit like fuckin'Nobody is impressed by a one night stand.Unless they call you the next day and ask when they can meet your anteater again.
>>98893962I can do that and more, but normies can't. Did you link to a wrong post?
>>98894926>not have to deal with drug dealers and schizos if you just played 40k at a LGSFixed
>>98897775At least drug dealers are self-motivating, and schizos are creative.Unlike the leftover spergs that have no choice but pick up games of *Product Brand* with total strangers, because nobody wants to actually be their friend.>I bet you don't even have a drug dealer and a cop in the same wargaming groupFag.
>>98897768Can you though?You were just complaining how hard it was to put your plastic men together.Stay consistent, baby fucker.
>>98898262I never said such a thing tho
>>98898342You implied it, which is the same thing to somebody paying attention.
>>98898240I guess I would rather play solo games than to interact with retards and drug dealers.
>>98899341But you're still playing with a retard.
>>98867377ASStoASS
>>98867306How do you find people to play niche games with? I play TOW with a friend and I know he also plays 40K with some other guy. If he's not up to start a third game I wouldn't know who to play this game with but it does look fun.If you play a wargame that's not Warhammer or a card game that's not MtG or Yugioh how do you even find someone to play with?
>>98899499Local stores and clubs.Also Facebook groups.
>>98899499You find people that have never played Warhammer and get them into wargaming.After a while of playing AWGs, they'll get a curiosity for Warhammer and realise it's essentially equivalent to mobile game slop with overpriced minis and pay to win mechanics.Once they understand that the investment they've put into forces for several games equals a single small 40k force, they'll likely stay away from Warhammer for good and instead seek alternative stuff.
>>98899499Literally, just paint two starter armies and learn the rules yourself.If you have a wide enough circle of like-minded friends, you will find somebody who thinks your little dudes are cute/cool, and wouldn't mind spending an afternoon slamming beers and blunts over a demo game.It helps if you host your friends regularly; people come to my house to hang out because my door is always open to a friend, and I'm usually down to jam some music, rip a bong, listen to you bitch out your ex girlfriend, or play toy soldiers.Not everybody is into it, but as your social circle expands (in tiers; not all friends are created equal, of course) you will inevitably find people for the thing you want to do, and more people for things you never realized you wanted to do.The solution to all social voids is to build your tribe.It ain't easy; people are fractious and weird, and will cause you problems.But also, the world seems dull and distant when you navigate it alone.
Stop bothering with the "Quarchud", the dude will just breakdown into spewing unhinged drivel at you.
>>98900085My drivel is highly constructive, conversational, and approachable from many directions.I'm actually waiting on my game right now, I will throw together a battle report to show you how easy it is.Tonight's opponent is an experienced wargamer and beat-cop, he is clean, and I respect him for it, he is an amateur historian, and used to do Hema.I expect him to win.
>>98898408I never implied such a thing. Take meds.
>>98900218Never.
Built 1 sprue, this was my first quar kit. My standards are Victrix kits so my complaint are, it's a bit annoying placing the arms and weapon. Some of the arms just doesn't align to the shoulders and that annoys me. The left hand also doesn't holds the rifle well. For example you would think that R3 and L3 would be a pair but no. It doesn't fit. Also these guys are fucking tiny lol
>>98867306This but unironically.
>>98867306Warhammer is the only tabletop IP that matters, it makes the most money, therefore it is the best. I don't see players of other systems as equals, not even as human beings tbqh
>>98903915Yeah, you chose the Gook faction.Fidwogs are ethnically distinct from other Quar, by being shorter.Line him up next to a Coftyran and you will see.
>>98894802Please realize autists have a merit/demerit point system to rank up people and would never indulge with low life like Jesus you and I do.
>>98903954>Warhammer is the only tabletop IP that mattersI don't care.>it makes the most moneyDoesn't matter rat's shit to me. I'll never see one cent from that money.>therefore it is the bestNon-sequitur.
>>98904257Some of us artists also love our lowlife acquaintances. They'll often have no issue being honest and have no façade to keep up. Many will also have fascinating tales to tickle the autistic noggin and won't be as bitchy as your regular normgroid.As you said, Jesus loved the outcasts because he knew that were deeply pious and spiritual people who'd preserve his word for eternity. Had he hung out only with the highly reputable parts of society, then maybe we'd all be worshipping him in secret, deep within the goyim mines.
>>98867496This, let GW keep em
>>98903954>Warhammer is the only tabletop IP that mattersprobably true for some definition of "matters".Good thing owning IP is completely irrelevant for enjoyment of the hobby.On the metrics that do count, GW doesn't fare very well. their minis are sometimes good, but woefully inconsistent and overpriced. most of their hobby products are fast interior to comparably priced peers. their rules writing and game design is the absolute bottom of the barrel for the industry. and their organized play and community support is somehow even worse than that.
Damn it I'm tempted to get the box set now, reading the rules they seem super fun. The random turn amount mechanic is genius.
