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Thread QuestionBetter win condition than that star trek edh trash.
Artifact Creatures you control have vigilance.
>every Reality Fracture pack has 1 pair of cards and 1 random card that's part of a pair, but the other half isn't includedI thought this was draft simulator's hasty coding, how the fuck is this an actual booster structure?
>>98864207>how the fuck is this an actual booster structure?Retard designers.
>>98864207Because it's supposed to make you feel good when you pull a pair of Mythic Ajanis or Garruks (disregarding all the times you will get two Marawyns).I did luck out and got both Samuts in one pack.
>>98864207That's actually the fix they made to ensure every pack gets at least 1 paired cards. All paired cards were printed next to each other meaning if the cutter was of by 1 card it would still have a pair.
I've been enjoying the alternate reality cards
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>>98864289NORMAL TIMELINE TRAXOS WASN'T A FUCKING DRAGON
>>98864357i'm going to kill myself
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>>98864321When actual magic starts looking like the shitty custom cards I saw on this board back in like 2008, you just know shit has gone terminal.
>>98864391be sure to stream it
>>98864417lol looks like he is shooting himself in the mouth
>>98864582Giwtym
>>98864582who wouldn't?either that or hitting an insane vapefr fr
returning casual player as i started teaching my 12 year old son how to play as of September. i only ever really played standard during the RTR through Kahns sets.my son has shown some interest in alternate game modes particularly commander since he was told the local LGS does commander most friday nights but standard every other week.i have an old Eternal Bargain precon from 2013 and only ever used it once (bad experience with the group i played with) then i threw together a jank Bruna deck using theroes and about cards just to function as a half assed deck he could go against and figured while commander isn't a 1v1 format he can at least go through the motions with me to see if he likes that gameplay.think this is reasonable or is too much lost cutting down to a 1v1?
>>98864652There's some nuance lost but it should be good enough to get him to handle the basics.
>>98864357Which Star Trek series or film is this referencing
>>98864657thats good, still don't even know if i will be able to take him to friday night events at all yet since that was why i stopped playing originally as work made it hard to stay up late on a friday when i had to be to work by 3am the next day.but figured should at least see if he likes the gameplay before either buying a more modern precon or trying to take him to events outside of maybe standard ones.for now we been playing for an hour or two every other day for the last month and a half, bought him a ton of Reality Fracture packs as his birthday was just a few weeks ago.
>>98864582I thought it was a vape
>>98864652It's hard to get into the proper game of magic nowadays because of commander being dominant both casually and in terms of playing at an lgs, and standard being an absolute fucking dumpsterfire with more UBshit than actual magic cards. Commander is not a new player friendly format, never has been and it continues to get worse as the average complexity of cards and total number of cards keeps increasing, as well as of course the fact that 4 players rather than 2 makes each decision exponentially harder.That said, some basic commander decks in a 1v1 setting would probably be a fine way to learn a bit more about the game and general gameplay and what to do.
>>98864672i figured it would be rough to get into which is why i been playing so many games with him at home using mostly Reality Fracture cards and some decks using old cards from Return to Ravnica, Gatecrash, Dragon's Maze, Core 2013-2015, Theroes, Born of the Gods, Journey into Nyx, and Kahns of Tarkir. i do have a tiny amount of Innistrad block cards but not enough to matter.
>>98864671It's a flute
How often do people play some of the less popular formats in your area? I've been looking into getting back into Magic and never knew Tribal Wars was a thing and it sounds neat.
>>98864777Borg flute
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>>98864396that has got to be one of the worst cards ive ever seen
>>98864434why did they choose to omit the series reference from these cardsit was nice to have on the ff cards
>look at new set>whenever you DUHHHHHHHHHH you may DUHHHHHHHHHHHH x2>whenever you X you may YWowwwww
>>98864865>hey do you guys play premodern or legacy here>dude looked at me like I asked how wet his mother was
>>98865034welcome to FIREwelcome to DIIIIEEE
>>98864865they had a pauper tournament once a week for a few weeks. fun while it lasted i guessfor whatever reason they still have modern tournaments once a week, modern sucks ass so i've never gone to themeven draft fails to fire sometimes, especially when it's ubshit seasonother than that it's just commander. aids.i have a cube and another draft frequenter has a cube though that we get a few people together and play sometimes though.
>>98864434So Dr. McCoy is another toy for Yawgmoth sac deck (Undying synergy).>>98864915Would, and would let her do me with her massive dong
What kind of retarded faggot still plays this dogshit sloppa of a rotten corpse eaten by maggots of a game?
>>98865092Don't think it works how you want it to, unless sacrificing a creature also counts as it being destroyed. Does it? I don't actually know.
TRK Draft archetypesWU-SpacecraftsUB- Modal cardsBR- SacrificeRG- LandfallGW- +1/+1 countersWB- Artifact creaturesUR- Noncreature spellsBG- Cards leaving cardsRW- FormidableGU- Differently name lands
>>98864381It's (based off of) a dragon engine bro
>>98865101I do I just haven't bought much since March of the machines
>>98864434>glup shitto UB aliens get to have thier own creature types when "alien" already exists>magic races like Viashino get fucking deletedWe need Holocaust for real to get rid of MaRo
>>98865241Don't forget they NEEDED to add giraffe further fragmenting away from beast creature type. At this point it's pretty much the "fantasy animal" type
>>98865241They didn't even use Alien in EOE a single time what is this LARP?
Why I'm getting worse vibes than with TMNT AND Spider-man? I mean both those sets were terrible but looking at shit like pic related >>98864357... I'm kinda amazed this could be even worse
idea: cum counters
>>98865315It is legitimately the worst set of all time. I'm just glad everything I've seen so far is so shitty that it will never see any play beyond limited.
>>98865315magic indeed is dead, jim
>>98865315Deserved fate for pigs that kept supporting this company.
>>98865326>(2),(T), sacrifice: gain 3 life
>>98865489that's a cum token you dolt
>>98865492>>>98864357No, it's a new type of token that has abilities and can be sacrificed
>>98865559>That said, he's still 4 mana. That's still a bit slow.Yeah, if you've got 4 mountains in play as burn you fucked up and already lost, so it's not a burn card. It's value in control or midrange decks is somewhat interesting. 4 mana do nothing, which is what it is, is pretty unplayable in pretty much all formats. That said, if he resolves and you don't instantly lose the game, most of the cards you hit are probably pretty good. Hit a removal spell and you win against any creature strategy, hit a cantrip and you're very happy, hit a counter and you're pretty happy. Hitting another Q is theoretically good but way too slow to actually be viable, you can hardly get away with casting 1 4 mana do nothing let alone two. Could see him being a one of in something like Grixis control in legacy, but I don't know. The last things you want with a 4 mana card is having it do nothing that turn and for it to have extreme variance, and this guy's got both.
hmmm... you can import a deck with crusade to endstep and it will be in the deck, but you can't actually search for crusade to add it to a deck (it doesn't show up as a suggestion).premodernbros... wtf?
>Rare federation card is a 3-mana 3/3 + 1/1 that can theoretically massively pump up a creature for 1 manaEven if that is good in the right deck, that's so fucking boring. Just run a Ghalta deck at that point.>Mythic federation card is an alt. Three Tree City, but is only worth using if you have like 10 creature typesWow, I really should've known better. Of course they only made federation as an excuse to cram 30-something new creature types into the set instead of making 80% of the creatures aliens and having alien tribal. This set really was the worst set out of everything this year. Even Marvel seems more novel than this.
>>98864652follow up to this: played through a game, he used Eternal Bargain and i used the jank Bruna deck i made, the game went back and forth about an hour more with him almost bleeding my dry with life converted into damage mechanics like sanguine bond but i managed to barely pull off enough commander damage to win the game with a prowler's helm and using pacifism on the wall he kept bringing back.overall he liked commander but was exhausted by the end of the game.
>>98865769Did you have this freakout when "Alien" also went unused in EOE?
>>98865788NTA but fucking everybody with sense thought the Alien type was an abomination.
SEXOOOO SEXOOOO SEXOOOO WITH WITCH SEXOOOOOOOO
What is an odd tidbit about Magic, cards or otherwise, have you come across recently?For example, I only found out recently that there's only one legendary whale creature; and it didn't show up til Thunder Junction
>>98865869Nauctis apparently is going to have a cycle of whales in it, sorta like how Reality Fracture had a set of 5 Sphinx in it.
>>98865103True, my bad, misread it the first time. Destruction is either by kill spells or by damage.>>98865241Coyote? Pest?
>>98865769What was the ruling on changelings again?
>>98865914Borg is a creature type
>>98865883I mean, when the concept of the set is being fully underwater; it'd be weirder if there wasn't any whales
>>98865916And how about that guy from the last zendikar that is all types in a party?
>>98865932That's 4.
>>98865556In most cultures cumming is bad. It drains your life and scares away animals.
>>98865936He's 5 creature cards
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>3 years of this shit in standardlol beam me up Leonardo
>>98866022To boldly go where no Autobot has gone before!
>they bring back blocks>so they can have a year with only marvel setswhat would you do in this situation
>>98866031the same thing I do now
>>98866032play premodern?
>>98864995Some cards aren't direct references to a series, but generic ones. The only Dahar Masters we see are the TOS Klingons' elderly appearances in DS9, but the card is a generic Klingon with the same title.
Garak being monoblack instead of blue/black is such a flagrant error that I can no longer trust color assignments on these crossover decks
>>98864995SE actually cared about the FF set. It is clear that none of the other IPs / IP holders give a shit about whatever WotC wants to do.
>>98866068They stopped caring about colour identities being "correct" like three years ago.
>>98866078It's an exceptionally egregious case. He is the purest example of everything House Dimir embodies I can think of.
>No Section 31 cardAre they that secretive?https://youtu.be/Ec1XyWT20oA
>>98864434>Dr. McCoyAT LAST, THE RETURN OF REGENERATION
>>98866002This is quite bad
>>98866210edh uncommon
0-2 vs. hermit druid2-0 vs. Mind over matterplaying gro-a-tog
>>98866002this cannot be real
>>98866084It better to just have one aspect for the purpose of draft.Maybe when Maro changes the commander identity rule on hybrid mana.
I wish for a universe within version. Even if it cost 3.
>>98865816Still no cancer yet, dang. Hopefully God will remember tomorrow you disgusting retarded faggot.
>>98866335When this enters the battlefield, you may choose "Search your library for a Whale card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle.FlyingStation 8+: Whenever this deals combat damage to a player, draw a card. If you control a Whale and haven't begun an extra turn this game, take an extra turn after this one.
>>98866344That's not the Whale ship from Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
>>98866031Do we eventually get in-universe blocks after that? I can go a year without Magic to regain cohesion and structure to Magic's universe. I won't play d*sney sets regardless, leave that to the lorcana queers.
>>98866344When this creature enters, look at the top six cards of your library. You may reveal an artifact card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.Whenever you cast a Spacecraft spell, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature.
>>988663543rd Rule of Acquisition — Gain control of target nonland permanent target opponent controls. That opponent draws three cards.98th Rule of Acquisition — Target opponent gains control of target nonland permanent you control. If that player does, you draw three cards.
>>98866351Hahahahahaaha. . . no.In fact it would be even more hilarious if it's framed as them wanting to "make a more cohesive standard and have more room for storytelling" and then only use it for UBshit and find some way to reduce in universe sets even more
>>98864357Goes great in my Ecco the Dolphin deck
>>98866362It's a sorcery so terrible.
>>98866362>removal + forcing THREE drawsI'M GONNA CU->5 manaEh, it's alri->Fucking Star Trekvomit
I luckshitted into 4 theorist jacesShould I play Azorius Control or Dimir Control at my store championship?
is star trek actually popular? how the fuck do you make an entire set out of a movie series?
>>98866425>is star trek actually popular?Not with anyone under 45 years old.
>>98866425>is star trek actually popular?Maybe 15 years ago. It's basically dead now.The entirety of its remaining influence is boomers and "It's a show on a streaming service that someone might watch."
>>98866362Rule #3: Never spend more for an acquisition than you have to.Rule #98: Every man has his price.
>>98866350It's not the ship that was looking for whales, but it is the ship that got them.
>>98866433>>98866441>out of a movie series?why are you two replying to a bait post?
>>98866470Every Star Trek meme is from the movies with one (1) exception ("It's a fake!")
>>98866564My favorite meme
>>98866582Ha ha there's no way this was in the show. Is this real? That's crazy ha ha ha.Who is that character? Did he died?
>>98866594>No FUN!!! counters that let you remove one instead of having a creature tap.>Can't set phasers to funlame
I keep making unga bunga gruul decks. How do I make my brain bigger?
>>98866600>How do I make my brain bigger?Stop playing this shit game.
>>98866605Well, that's a given, I suppose.
>>98866564Delete the wife, get the cheese to sickbay, It's been a long road getting from there to here
>>98866608>It's been a long road getting from there to here.... it's been a long time...but my TIME IS FINALLY NEAR
>>98866617I WILL SEE MY DREAM COME ALIVE AT LASTI WILL TOUCH THE SKY
>>98866625god mtg fucking sucks
>>98864357"Cetacean Ops" started as a joke on TNG. In a couple episodes you can make out a listing for it on the computer screens, and one episode has someone being paged there over the background noise intercom. You never actually saw it in the show, because it's an obvious fucking joke that there would be whales in uniforms working in a giant pool on a starship.(Similar jokes: TNG constantly peppered with anime references hidden on computer screens, DS9 having a shop run by Tom Servo listed in the station directory.)Later multiple "NuTrek" series took the concept and made it a serious, canon part of some starships. Which was stupid.
>>98866642YOU suck, UBrownoid>>98866700tbqh it makes perfect sense considering the whale probe made cetaceans lorewise significant, and it fits the "posadist futurism" in which Star Trek was originally concieved better than anything from Voyager onwards. Plus I bet whales are great at plotting 3 dimensional courses.
>>98866700I feel like Cetacean Ops becoming a canon thing is someone not realizing they've done something so stupid that it utterly annihilates the suspension of disbelief. Lower Decks just kinda doesn't seem to care like I heard someone say that there's a moment where the crew actually commits genocide and then celebrates the victory afterwards - a horrific violation of the Prime Directive. That's just the same kind of no-fucks disrespect same as Cetacean Ops.With Magic it's pretty much guaranteed they're going to include the thing that shatters the suspension of disbelief because the people in charge just have no filter or their brains have been rotted with memes. The inclusion of Cetacean Ops and Lower Decks just kinda shows the people in Wizards have no taste - they would have discretion over what parts of Trek to include or not and they flagrantly chose the stupidest shit. Not the half-stupid shit, the actual worst shit ever.
>>98866002>it's realman who didn't know he still had hope loses the last bit of hope he had
>>98866750Cetacean Ops also appears in Prodigy, on the Voyager-A. It's in the terrible second season, not the good first season.>they would have discretion over what parts of Trek to include or notNo, not really. If part of the license deal was that they had to include everything, then they have to follow that.
>>98866027seriously what is the obsession to mix all IPs to this globohomo mess. what are people, five?
>>98864865In my previous store, two guys started coming with pauper decks and slowly more people joined, until roughly half the store had people with pauper decks.In the current store the same happened but with Duel Commander instead, it was faster because people really wanted to move away from all the shit of "regular" commander.So yeah try to bring two/enough decks of a new format and slowly convert people. It won't be fast, and some of them will never do anything other than commander, but with enough time you should be able to find people to play with
>>98866801>If part of the license deal was that they had to include everythingThat's presumably not part of the license deal, unless they're going to include cards depicting that time Spock and Kirk went to a Nazi planet and disguised themselves as Nazis.
>>98866801I don't know anything about licensing but if someone forced me to pay for Cetacean Ops and then pay to produce a product in order to get everything else I would walk away from the deal. I don't actually believe that Nickelodeon forced them to license Spongebob.I think Cetacean Ops and Spongebob are both indicative of some stupid motherfucker in the product development department. Only the stupidest kind of person would pick the worst parts of Trek to include in the set and that person is probably the same person who chose to license Dr. Who. All that combined with the detective shit in Ravnica just leads me to think the person responsible for all this bad shit UB is some 60 year old who grew up with cowboys and indians and Dick Tracy and fucking magnifying glasses.
>>98866848"Everything" being "Every series", you fucking moron. Use the conversational context.
Will you be able to put the card AFTER the Shuffling but before Start Exiling? so Shuffle > Put card from hand on top > Exile top card
>>98867031no, abilities have to resolve fully once they start and the enchantment is not a replacement effect but a trigger that goes on the stack but only resolves after q does
>>98866002Rick and Morty UB?
>>98866425>is star trek actually popular?Only among boomers, kids don't even know it
>>98867180didn't we get that already? or am I going crazy?
>>98867180The Lower Decks.
>>98866339umad?
ive seen rumors about Warcraft being an upcoming UB, is that bullshit or is there any substantive reason to believe it? besides of course the wow forever release timing
>>98866022Kamigawa bunga dude. We have capeslop next year confirmed so we'll have nothing but more UB slop for years to come, probably forever!
>>98867284It would be high fantasy at least. Still fucking shite. Fuck UB.
>>98867284they announced UB for D&D including wow and star wars (iirc) this summerthus those properties also getting magic sets is heavily implied
>>98866002I guess these were already at the printer by the time the super lazy screenshot avatar cards were getting flak
>>98866056I really triedI went 0/3 5 times not playing blueI went 3/3 the first time playing stiflenaught The format is brokenI was sold a false bill of goods, by people who unironically sleeve up jackal pup
>>98866084What makes you say that?
>>98866449>there's no possible profit (card differential) in these optionsFlavor fail for 3rd rule
>>98866595No but this is
>only 9 weeks left in the year >no 2027 roadmapI guess they DID get tired of being called retards after all
>>98867385They waited until last magiccon 2025 to announce the ubs coming out this year too retardbro
I'm going to give spoilers for this year's UB. I hope you're all ready. My Dad works for faggots of the coast. FAGGOT SHITMORE FAGGOT SHITFUCKING GAY FUCKING UB TRASHCAPESLOPSOME FUCKING VIDEO GAME SHITUGLY GAY FAGGOT CRAP FUCK YOU
>>98867433YeahIn fucking september lol
>>98867484Wow it's worse than I thought eccept I'm kinda excited for UGLY GAY FAGGOT CRAP FUCK YOU thats really my jam
>>98867433If I was a single man I'd go just to boo at the inevitably dogshit roadmap
>>98867484Can't wait!
I can't think of a set more botched than the star trek set. From the card art, to the obvious missed opportunites, its like it was designed by interns who don't know anything about star trek except the memes and nutrek.
oh my fucking lol Cocks just called hasbro consumers "kidults" aka manchildren on live TV. I mean he is right but didn't think he'd just start calling people names like that holy kek
>>98867687forgot img
>>98867702HmmI know this sounds like a meme but this plus a recent interaction with my boss makes it pretty obvious I need to leave this hobbyI don't want to but it has to be done
>>98866425Even if it was, fans of the show / movies don't buy merch. The collectable market for it is far below other similar IPs. I genuinely don't know who this set is for.
>>98867801same man, godspeed
>>98867807This is peak doesn't know dick about shitTrekkies are basically waifu-anon tier collectors of plastic garbage
Can this game be saved?
>>98867817EasilyNew format + new leadershipThe new leadership is more important.
>>98867833Surely the fix is another format to abandon immediately.
>>98867814Read, anon - read. There are far fewer Star Trek fans out there compared to other IPs (comparable or similar "geek" space things). On top of that, there is less demand for that fanbase to buy things related to Star Trek than other fanbases in general.t. work in the supply chain for area hobby & comic stores for over 10 years now
>>98867842Is that why every time I go to ren fair 20% of the ppl there are in Star Trek uniforms?
>>98867365He is the consumate duplicitous spy-assassin who always denies being anything more than a simple tailor no matter how apparent it becomes that he is not. This is the house of spy-assassins that pretends not to exist. A pure black Garak would be his mirror universe counterpart, who is a cartoonish evil advisor type who wears his treachery on his sleeve and had bone of the prime's education or training from his spymaster mentor.
>>98867842I think sci-fi in general lost a ton of ground everywhere compared to pure fantasy when we all realized a bright future was itself pure fantasy. Mass Effect was the last big new sci-fi IP.
>>98864357This makes magic more whale-coming
>>98867842That's anecdotal evidence, my anecdotal evidence says the opposite. We have an entire Star Trek memorabilia store in the area and the homes of Trekkies I know look like Jim Sterling's podium. We're talking about the fandom that invented the IP Con.
UB space stuff?How about Mars AttacksLots to draw from the old original cards: heat rays, freeze rays, shrink rays, they turn bugs large and sic em' on cities world wide, abductions, world-wide destruction, Earth eventually takes the fight to Mars, humans end up nuking Mars into tiny bits and the planet doesn't exist anymoreOr is a cruel, violent invasion of Earth not wholesome chungus enough for a magic set?Maybe as a mini secret lair set like that zeta is setting the stage for
>>98867893Pure fantasy also basically imploded from major media after Game of Thrones shitting the bed because it's extremely expensive to produce.The reason it looks like there's a "war on men" in premier media is because the two biggest male genres (sci-fi+fantasy) are extremely fucking expensive to make which is why you instead keep getting "small scale" capeslop.
>>98865917true but what i meant by it was if you like whales there are going to be a cycle of mythic ones for each color identity to work with.i saw art of the black one where it is a massive ghost/zombie whale with tiny ghost killer whales following it, the art looked inspired at least.
>>98868180I mean, I do like whales; but the only reason it's odd is because they've been around for the majority of the game's lifespan, and they didn't get a legendary til 2-3 years ago. Kinda like how there's a skeleton in every color, yet the highest color count for them is 2
>>98868194they probably just forgot, not even kidding.
>>98865869>What is an odd tidbit about Magic, cards or otherwise, have you come acrossThere's no fucking monk lord.
First interesting non-EDH card.
>>98865869Why would you assume there would be a legendary whale creature?
>>98868357That's supposed to be kira?
>>98868364No it's Jadzia.
>>98867938I fucking love the cards and movie. Why the hell not.
>>98868357>First interesting card in a fucking decade>It's fucking Star TrekREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>98868357casual reminder that first strike damage triggers that make tokens/blink/reanimate with this out will make whatever creature unblockable
>>98868357Can this make creatures with Defender attack? Or they just enter tapped?
>>98868621Yes it makes defenders attack. They just can't attack again on subsequent turns (declaring an attack and being an attacker are two different things).
This shit sucks. I haven't had a positive thought about MTG in years at this point but I still don't know if I have it in me to sell my cards.
>>98868749Unironically do. I want this playerbase to do something other than be flooded with cattle that impotently whine and do nothing else.I mean this in the most positive way possible that if you sell your cards and play something you actually enjoy that's something worthy of respect.
Nah, hodl. Prices will only go up.
BUY HIGHNEVER SELL
>>98868749create a cube of your favorite set, plane, or block and endlessly draft it with your friends.for example Theros, Born of the Gods, Journey into Nyx, and if you wish Theros beyond Death as they share a plane and many keywords between them.
>>98868825Draft is for cucks.
>>98868854the point of a cube is to do random jank decks with your friends without spending money like a tool.
>>98868825>>98868869None of my friends was ever as invested in playing MTG as I was, and even then it was mostly a personal endeavor of mine. Draft was never my bag (I played extended and standard back when I got into the game in highschool) but the idea of a cube has been passed back and forth a bit but even the one friend who seemed genuinely interested is enough of a flake that I know the effort would be wasted. It would just be another box with the rest of my boxes of cards I haven't touched in who knows how long.Sorcery really got some genuine interest of mine churning but without anybody else to match that (combined with development of the game being stillborn) it's just another dead avenue.
>>98868900more than reasonable, i never cared too much for draft myself compared to playing sealed which is cost prohibitivehaving someone to regularly play with makes a huge difference, when i bought a house and moved two towns over from my usual LGS i fell out of magic for about 10-12 years and only just got back into it when i introduce my son to it last month, been quite good for one on one time as about every other day we spend an hour or more playing mtg, what was nice is for his birthday it was a day after Reality Fracture came out and the LGS i used to go to (it moved but still existed) had plenty of leftover prerelease packs for $30 so i bought several of those for his birthday and we spent all day doing rounds of sealed games then upgraded the best decks into 60 card ones.
First banjo playing commander
>>98868471>>98868749it's over
>>98864417if you said 10 years ago we'll have patrick stewart vaping on a magic card no one would have believed you
>>98868993Kek, nice work anon
>>98869032Yeah because nobody would think Magic would still be around in 10 years, let alone good.
>>98868749Come homePlay legacy
>>98868854Draft is the foundation of the gameEvery bad decision is downhill of allowing FNM to be formats other than draft
>>98868749I think it's a good time to leaveThis time I'm leaving for good
>>98868749if nothing else, sell the edh staples if any
Take it from meIf you leave don't sell your cards unless you need toYou will come back and you will want some of those cardsThe pittance you get for selling is not worth it
>>98869399>Draft is the foundation of the gameThat's a weird way to spell kitchen table constructed
>>98869423if you sell you can't come back
>>98869427If you sell you can still come back, but you'll waste even more money that time.For what it's worth I do advocate for selling though, the ship is really sinking and you can most certainly use that money elsewhere at this point in time
>>98869427I sold, and when I came back just proxied everything, because selling was a huge pain in the ass and now I can just trash the cards without feeling a thing
got some of my sons Christmas gifts in the mail so far i got:Reality Fracture play booster boxGamegenic Academic 133+ stealth deck boxmystery brand dice that specifically have things like +6/+6 on a side and keyword reminds like Vigilance on others.Jeep lego set.thinking of padding things out with a couple Dragonshield Matte sleeves, been getting him the black matte ones prior to this. wife plans on some clothes as well but that is less interesting to talk about.he is 12, think this sounds good to get him started? aside from my old cards all he has is what he got for his birthday.
>>98869484Take him to the doctor for hrt and make him a lil sissy since you already started he can be the coolest trans kid in school.
>>98869424I suppose I should have said at the LGS level, you are completely correct.
>>98869427And you are who exactly?
>>98869589(you)
What if there was set where all the cards were lolis? Would that be a good idea?
>>98869484>Reality Fracture play booster boxKind of a waste unless you are going to draft itGamegenic Academic 133+ stealth deck boxGood, holds 60 + sideboard or edh>mystery brand dice that specifically have things like +6/+6 on a side and keyword reminds like Vigilance on others.meh>Jeep lego set.Best purchase so farThat's a hell of a lot of stuff, quantity often is a suitable substitute for quality especially if you are shooting in the dark which based on the choices it looks like you are
>>98869615he has traditionally liked legos, magic is a newer things so i figured i would get him setup, i didn't buy too many accessories back in the day so i don't have much for him to use other than some tiny dice for general counters, this is getting things built out for Christmas and i figured a MTG kit if you will would be a good idea, usually he just gets a ton of legos, builds a few then doesn't build the second half until about summer which tells me he doesn't need more than 1 or 2 lego sets, i also started a thing where once he opens his gifts i let him pick out a video game off of the usual Christmas digital sales you can find and buy it for him as well.he usually doesn't ask for anything but has asked for magic cards after i started playing it with him, i plan on asking him if he wants to do some sealed games like i did on his birthday but i don't plan on pushing the issue if he doesn't feel like it.he is an only child and does very well in school so i don't mind spending more on him as a result as i made a promise with him that if he takes school seriously even if he finds it too easy i would make she he always has something to do when he gets home, so far he has been holding up his end of the bargain as he just got honor roll and a few other awards from the school.
>>98866362NO WAY that's a real race in the series. that's antisemitic AFnext you are gonna tell me they print a jew that gives you a treasure (for a high drawback or something but that's propably too on the nose)
>>98865788No, because I like insects. I did had a massive freakout that they didn't get any tribal support in EOE, but FUCKING KAVUS of all things did!
>>98866852I don't see how Cetacean Ops is so terrible since whales are some of the few animals with human like intelligence they are the closest thing to an alien species along with elephants and octopuses.
>>98867358Look at the artist name it's not a screenshot but original artwork.
>>98869598someone who's considering selling out
Why is this an Ooze shouldn't it be a Vagran.
>>98869878
>>98869894Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, put a quest counter on Anthropological Mission. Draw a card. Then discard a card unless there are three or more quest counters on Anthropological Mission.
Is it just me or is the oracle text more confusing than the printed text while clarifying nothing>If a player would draw a card except the first one they draw in each of their draw steps, that player discards a card instead. If the player discards a card this way, they draw a card. If the player doesn't discard a card this way, they mill a card.
>>98869927If a player draws a card outside their drawstep they instead rummage. If they didn't discard they mill.
>>988689933 years of Star Trek in Standard.
>web swinging>sneak>beam me upWhy is ever UB mechanic just "re-use etb abilities when you cast this"
>>98869957So you have to buy more shit from the set if you want some synergies. It's not fucking complicated.
>>98869957They need to put a sacrifice like mechanic in Bant as a form of cost.
>>98867817Kikes don’t even care about saving mono White. Why would they save the game?
>>98869957Why is every UW mechanic tribal and kicker?
This feels like it doesn't actually do anything, but 2 mana planeswalkers don't need much to get out of hand.Is it good or not?
>>98870033it's maybe fine to go token cat t1 into this t2 into something or another t3, but he really just doesn't do anything. i think the other 2 mana ajani planeswalker they already printed is better still in that slot.
>>98867364skill issue
it would be cool if penny dreadful banned all ub cards. i used to really like the format as it was fun to brew in a relatively limited space, and it was of course completely free to play on mtgo. but looking at the metagame it's like 50% or more UBshit cards that are rejects from every other format because nobody wants them. sad.
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>>98870033lifegain counters are extremely easy to get a ton of within a single turn, for a 2 cost planes walker it is plenty reasonable as you can be outright flooded with loyalty on it, even within Reality Fracture the viborbloom deck can pump it to the moon, don't expect it to be single handed win you the game but it certainly is good for early to mid game.i found it rather useful as i could pump out an Ajani's Pridemate pretty much every turn if i wished or opt to go for the token if my board is wide enough.
>>98870069Whenever Jett Reno becomes tapped, surveil 1. If its power is 4 or greater, instead draw a card.Whenever you face a dilemma, put a +1/1 counter on Jett Reno.
>>98870084
I don't care about the reference, but this is the only actual interesting card so far. It isn't good, but at least it is interesting.
>>98870069>miracle worker>doesn't interact with miracle mechanic in any way
>>98870091
>>98870096
>>98870096that's not bad actually
>>98870069>Only instants and sorcery spells can be cast this wayThe why the fuck does he give the ability to every card in your graveyard instead of only them? Imagine if past in flames gave every card flashback but the reminder text said it only works on inst/sorc. Utter nonsense. Also not being able to bounce himself was a cowardly move.
>>98870054Jackal pup is a bad card in premodernI will die on this hill
>>98868357Oh shit, that might actually go in my deck
I cannot stand how the trek cards don't even have a series referenceI watch trek and I can't even put a finger on half these references
>>98870296Really? I've not seen any TOS. I've seen all TNG. I've seen most of DS9 up to the war arc. I've seen no Voyager and Ent. I get most of the references.
>>98869639he sounds like a good boy, give him a pat on the head from me and tell him anon sends his regards
>>98866335Does it need to be a legendary artifact?Chasm Skulker and Lorescale Coatl are both 3cmc cards that get bigger when you draw cards.
>>98870304will do
>>98870302I've seen tos and tng but only started watching ds9 earlier this year
For the premodernfags itt, is moxless oath ponza any good or is it a meme cope? I like the prison gameplay but fuck off if I have to pay for 4x diamonds.
once again getting btfo'd by people running the color hate in bo1 draft
>>98870974it's like fine i guess, i've never played moxless but a lot of lists only run 3x mox and games without your mox you don't always feel like you're a fish out of water for it. obviously Armageddon gets a fuck ton better if you've got a mox or two in play compared to not, but it's still armageddon and you've still got oath, you can still be competitive. the real question is why play premodern if you can't proxy? even legacy players in paper aren't nearly as elitist as premodern players when it comes to proxies, just seems weird i figure the group most likely to hate modern wotc would also be most for proxies.
>>98870974the guy who popularized the deck genuinely thinks it's better moxless (he sold his).
>>98871191*popularized the moxless version of the deckit obviously already existed before that.
>>98871245Ofc they nerfed her titties, fuck this.
>>98871245Loot strikes again.....
>>98871245did they make a T'pol in heat card?
>>98869767>>98869942>3 chapters>3 years of standard hell>greedy bignose tribedamn, not even subtle anymore
this game is such poo
>>98869767https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvFYBkesqGU
>>98871245yikes
>>98871526WTF how is this allowed to stay while dockside isn't?!
>>98871245Horrible.
>>98870033Infiniete Ajani's Pridmate factory woul have done numbrs in like 2016, but nu-Soul Sisters with that energy shithead and the ascend cats don't need a grinde engine
>>98871813Wow a strictly worse Call of the Herd, exciting stuff.>inb4 muh etb value
>>98870974The Wild Growth + Smokestack version is decent and playable. Honestly though every community is proxy friendly except for when those SCG cocksuckers come to town, so just proxy up
for anyone who plays Arena: which event is better for farming gems? standard or historic, which one is less sweaty?
>>98871813>bean me up, Donatello from TMNT!This never gets old haha so quirky chungus!
>>98871245Why do they cap breasts sizes at B size? I thought they liked women. Is it because it will offend the trannies or maybe give some dude a boner which is unforgiveable?
>>98872313AWOOGAps. I hate wotc
>>98871245>>98872313Yanner painted Onyx.
>>98872313>Why do they cap breasts sizes at B size?They don't. Loot is just so powerful that he can relieve women of their assets even across franchises. The 4th wall can't even contain him!
>like star trek>dislike nutrek>dislike numtgfuck these cards man
>>98870033Sucks in standard because if you're getting enough lifegain to make a pridemate every turn, you should be winning already. Otherwise, its just worse than the orzhov 2 drop enchantment.Also it competes as a 2 drop against amalia and enlightened confidant which are way better.
between sorcery, riftbound, and the various japanese tcgs it feels like everyone other than edh players moved on from mtg
>>98870069>"Scotty can't be beamed up"
>>98872936There's no episodes where Scotty was beamed up on screen.
>>98872936YesThe phrase is >beam me up scottyNot>beam up ScottyYou pseude
>>98872954>>98872988I'm lamenting how retarded it is, not whether or not it is accurate to the show.
>>98872954what? there were plenty of episodes where Scotty was beamed down on a planet. right? RIGHT?!
>>98872954>>98872988>>98873008You idiots, it's not trying to impose some random restriction because "Scotty was never beamed up". Look at the fucking art. You can't beam up Scotty because he's the one fixing the fancy beam up machine.
>>98873041nobody cares about the text on a card you nerd, we're talking about star trek.
>>98872900I dabbled in arena 2 years ago and have only played pauper since. Im primarily a ygo player tho. Pauper is a good second game format I think.
>>98872936It's not even that he can't be beamed up. He can't be beamed up with a beam up that his effect is granting. He can still be beamed up by a card's innate beam up effect.
Why did they pick Star Trek? Who the FUCK knows anything about it? At best they saw one of the movies. I don't understand why Hasbro chose such an obscure IP for a set when they could've picked more contemporary works.
>>9887003352.6% winrate on 17lands. D+
>>98873115>Star Trek>Obscurewhat? it's the series that literally invented "fandom" and "fan conventions" as a concept. what third world shithole do you live in where star trek reruns weren't omnipresent on TV, where TNG wasn't literally the second biggest thing in syndication after Baywatch?
Would anyone be able to do a deck review and tell me how bad I am at building and how to best change things around on a budget?I'm just getting into Magic and built a frog deck just to play with some pals, but it definitely needs a bit of refinement. I really like frogs though.
>>98873115Star Trek is the OG nerd property. and like with Magic the niche nerd community has been liquidated for chasing the Modern Audience of consoomers
>>98873115
here's your slop sir
Lore time (not that Lore)Dal didn't know what species he was for the longest time. In his travels to escape from a slave mining colony, he learns about the Federation and Starfleet and wants to join it. He also learns that he's the result of some mad scientist slicing a bunch of different alien DNA into a human. When he eventually reaches the Federation, he's rejected from joining Starfleet because genetic augments are banned (Khan and competitive unfairness and all that). Janeway successfully argues that yes, Dal is a genetically modified human, but LOOK AT HIM. He's a fucking mess of a being. He's not superior. Let him in.Literally.>And concerning the augment, whose name you've conveniently forgotten. His name Dal R'El. Is he genetically engineered? Yes. Was he enhanced in every way? Look at him. Of course not. But his heart is bigger than any in this room. I should know.
>>98873150hehe
star trek is gay and we would've been better off with another final fantasy or lotr set
>>98873137dunno what your doing but chatgpt suggested Pond Prophet, Dour Port-Mage, and Clifftop Lookout for some enter the battlefield and leave the battlefield synergy with him.
>>98873115I'd say this is a 0/10 bait post but you're actually getting replies, so good job with that I guess.
>>98873160true, but at least it's not new york #5
>>98873167It's there in spirit.
>>98873179That's San Francisco.
>>98873160my son only really likes the in-universe sets so far, lord of the rings is a maybe to him and according to him something like Monster Hunter would be a good fit because at a glance it blends in with the other cards like Garruk.
>>98873135Star trek is basically unknown to anyone under 35. 20 year olds couldn't care less about the nu trek shows, which is why they keep getting cancelled so quickly. This is just more Gen X/Millennial nostalgia bait, and even then millennials never really cared about trek.
I care about Trek. I don't care about Trek in MTG.
>>98873041Scotty stopped trusting transporters after he got stuck in the pattern buffer for 20 years
>>98873219What about wurms? What are your guys favorite wurm? I like this one.
>>98873210It's this way with TCGs too. MTG is becoming obscure compared to newer games like Metazoo and Lorcana
>>98873266>Metazoolol
>Metazoo
I’d take a Star Trek set every year over superhero bullshit and anime bullshit,
>>98873288Id rather they just release a new unglued set
>>98864277Is the red one a parody of Tidus from FFX?
>we could've had a chainsaw man set instead of star trek
>>98873353not diverse enough
>we could've had saturday night live instead of star trek
>>98873150diversity is our strength sar
>we could've had rupaul's drag race instead of star trek
>>98873443Rocky Horror would've been better. I wonder what the time warp would do.
>>98873150>all the talking points>blatant and in your faceI dont even have the energy to make fun of it.
>>98873266>MetazooOhnononono
>>98873483give you an extra turn
man why is Deranged Hermit on the reserved list, I want some Premodern reprints
Speaking of metazoo, I had no idea the MTG founder bought it last year and revamped it as a souless lorcana cloneI thought the whole point was crappy unique art, retro pokemon foiling, and a janky game. Why even revive it to make it such a flat souless lorcana clone of all things?
>>98873726Because as it turns out Garfield was a hack.
>they don't mind showing grandma cleavage
>>98873747Artifact failed because of the business model.
>>98873726A cryptid/folklore tcg with design based on the earliest pokemon tcg sets was a slam dunk idea but goddamn did they drop the ball in every conceivable way
>>98873755That's because being promiscuous and horny was part of her character.
>>98873747artifact was just a weird game. i get the dota, 3 lanes thing but that does not translate well into a tcg at all
>>98873770It really wasn't. The monetization is what caused most people to never give it a try, but the subsequent "Artifact 2.0" and free release didn't even move the needle because the gameplay itself was horrible. It was made by retards that thought the thing people liked about MtG was prison mirrors.
>>98873747The guy just managed to catch lightning in a bottle with magic
>>98873438https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/IDIC
>>98873883Don't spoonfeed them. Let them seethe.
>>98873774>dumb meme "durr you win the game if you are sitting on a tree stump" gameplay>really shitty art>crypto/NFTs>SCP They really did, Jesus.
>>98873755Not giving Lwaxana a provocative outfit would have been the final straw. Shame her card isn't very good, but at least that's something. I'm not holding out on a good Gul Dukat card at this point.
>>98873747https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0qZTS38cjw
>>98873755real question is how nerfed is Deanna going to be
>>98873964I hope it's "Pah Wraith Literally Satan" Gul Dukat just to shit on the secular humanist sperglords who hate the supernatural religious stuff in Ds9
>>98873150>I cast Infinite Diversity targeting Faithless Looting
>>98873972Already spoiled. She's in her "serious officer" uniform from the later seasons.
>>98873883>actually significant thing from the series>card art is just niggas graduating starfleet academyshould I choose not to notice?
>>98873883Diversity in Star Trek makes sense because different planets have different technology and resources that are valuable to the Federation.How is diversity useful in the real world. What can brown people teach white people? How to slather corn on the cob in Lowry's Seasoning Salt?
>>98874010anon are you an actual childyou learn this at elementary school age
>>98874064Explain.
>>98874010anon most places and businesses on earth have different resources, diversity is not just hr telling you to hire a jamal and chang for every two deepshit rajpissurs when you have to figure out which one can file papers and which one can go get their spine crushed by a plastic blue barrel in the basement
>>98874010Diversity in pre-globalized society had value because it introduced various new things (food is the most obvious but there would also have been techniques for making clothing, tools, shelter, military strategy, etc...) to a culture. Because we live in a global village hellhole, all of this can now be shared without actually inviting a billion shitskins into our countries any more.
>>98874143That barrel had no honor.
>>98873755I was waiting for the Detain keyword but it never showed upDoubling abilities? what the fuck?
>>98874143>spine crushed by a plastic blue barrelthis is gonna be the 1/2 cmc {7}{T}:destroy target permanent of the set isnt it
>>98874159The real batshit thing is no Warp at all. Like, it's fucking insane they designed Warp being what it was such that it couldn't make sense to be included in Trek. Like aren't you supposed to design Warp so it could make fucking sense in Trek? Isn't this of all times the moment you bring back Suspend?
>>98874010Indians are going to teach you how to live in a Caste system, because you were getting too comfortable for your Masters to control you.
>>98874159Don't forget Lwaxana is an ambassador and minor royalty, she has connections to make your shit get done better.
>>98874195It's stupid but they probably didn't want it to just be EOE 2
>>98872988>>beam me up scottyThat was never said.
>>98874264Even just "beam me up" was only used in two episodes, and one movie.
>>98874159Whenever she's on the Enterprise, Picard is double triggered
>>98874256You already said it was stupid but it's hard to imagine exactly what was said given that without all the other mechanics other than spaceships Star Trek feels like 1/3 of EOE. Why purposely make the Trek set significantly worse than a set that just came out. It was all fucking there, landers could be shuttles, warp could have just been suspend, void could have been a renamed Borg mechanic.It's baffling how they find new ways to disappoint.
>>98874303isn't that just a screenshot from the show
>>98874303>brown dyke with shaved sideswow so brave
>>98874159Lwaxana Troy is a Betazoid, they are a species of empaths so she can feel and even project emotions onto other species.
>>98874195Is it really all spoiled?
>>98874326SureThat's what she CAN do, but her nature is 100% detain
>>98874195I really wanted Warp and Void to come back
>>98873787Ackshually, this was basically the issue of shoehorning the lane system from mobas into a card game. Riftbound also had the same problem, then the designers realized they could just take Force of Will tcg, add the 3 field shit into it then lock the stack behind combat so it feels lile the fields are special in a way
>>98874303I want to gaydie
New thread>>98874399>>98874399>>98874399
>>98871813I hate literally every single thing about this card and I love that dumb holo-Moriarty episode
>>98873755She's not really charming though. That's the whole point of the character. She puts on airs of being all sophisticated but she really has a horrible personality. I hate this fucking set.
>>98875457>As a general design rule, if you're doing something unusual, it's nice if there is a design reason for it. It's going to draw focus, and it's a good way to make the set feel more connected. I had tried a couple one-off cards that cared about different creature types, but they weren't really working.>Enter the Professor.>The Professor of Tolarian Community College happened to be near Wizards and had reached out about coming by, and I knew he was a huge Star Trek fan. So, after a number of messages and back-and-forth discussions, I got special permission to show him the set while he was here and ask for his thoughts.>One of his big notes was that, while the existing mechanics felt like Star Trek, one of the cornerstones of that franchise was diversity in your crew. At the time, there was a mechanic called federation that cared about whether your creatures had 8 or more power, which exists in the final set as the red-white draft archetype on cards like La'An Noonien-Singh, Security. He thought it would be great if the mechanic had something to do with diversity.I found someone we can blame for every stupid decision in Star Trek. I wonder if he'll happily shill it because he likes Star Trek. He bitches about all the other UB and now we have pic related.
>>98866335Proxies are your friend
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