Ding Dong Bioware Is Dead EditionPrevious: >>98857159>Newshttps://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-banned-and-restricted-february-9-2026https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/commander-brackets-beta-update-february-9-2026>Current Banlisthttps://magic.wizards.com/en/banned-restricted-list#commander-banned>Bracket Informationhttps://files.catbox.moe/4tbvzw.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/r62yfy.png>Former Commander Website: Learn the basics, and read the format philosophy laid down by the rules committeehttps://mtgcommander.net>Card Searchhttps://scryfall.com>Card Statistics: See what everyone else puts in their Commander decks based on what is posted to the Internethttps://www.edhrec.com>Deck List Sites: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choiceshttps://www.archidekt.comhttps://www.moxfield.com>Manabase Information: Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identityhttps://managathering.com>Proxy Guidehttps://pastebin.com/9Xj1xLdM>Preconshttps://magicprecons.comTQ: what trek card caught your eye? bonus points you don't mention replicator
>>98862049>another UB spam thread
>>98862057you lost -ub fagback to your containment
>>98862049I'm honestly wondering if Sisko can be cedh viable as an alternative to Nick Fury. Doesn't immediately die to bowmasters and has abilities that might actually do something, even if it's just giving you bodies for cradle mana.
>>98862064since rogsi does the free commander for free spells thing better i can see mr. sisko being better than fury *provided that* there's a cedh that uses a lot of modal spells
They should make a coinciding Secret Lair drop for Trek season
>>98862069That's part of what makes me interested. He's 5 color slop, but with something that also can push the deckbuilding in a sort of unique direction. Test of Courage at least looks like it would make the cut.
>>98862076alan rickman getting in means we get a little bit closer to HP and i'm all for it
What should I take out for Smaug the Magnificent and The Sackville Bagginses?https://archidekt.com/decks/16689238/tax_evasion
>>98862078I'm tired of gimped witnesses
>>98862049>TQ: what trek card caught your eye?This is unironically going to be the best commander of the set
>>98862107oh damn I didn't realize it said EACH
>>98862096From what we've seen so far it'll probably be a mythic uncommon in limited. I would like it to be cheaper for constructed play, but I understand that if it was it would probably have a disgusting winrate in draft.
>>98862107>hey bro can i copy your homework>alright bro but dont make it obvious
>>98860542That San Fransisco land and the dude with the dog might finally make my Volo deck decent. Hope there is more stuff with that gimmick.
>>98862148https://moxfield.com/decks/yD8_ExIOJUKUE0QbK9bY9wr8 my volo
>>98862059which is the first one? Final fantasy?
>>98862251>FF>LotR>Avatar>Hobbit
>>98862254>Avatarwait for real?I thought Marvel sets were 3rd or 2nd place
>>98862079surely even the most jowling kowling rowling hater-pilled person can't deny that rickman put in a hell of a performance
What's a good Dimir commander and deck that really emphasizes the sneaky, gaslighting, deceptive nature of the guild?
>>98862309The Etratas are fun build-around Commanders.
>>98862309Unironically pic rel but he's in non-legal jail sadly.
>>98862309dee kay
>>98862376DONKEYKONGHE'S THE LEADER OF THE BUNCH
>>98862309If you really want to gaslight, use Silas Renn and then pick any random partner of colors you aren't even running in the deck.
>>98862049Mythic khan, as much as I hate Star Trek golgari food chain that can draw your deck is interesting.
>>98862107I notice the devs are starting to sneakily make "super sets" where they're dropping cards that are stupidly good for specific commanders every 1-2 sets after that Commander releases.
>>98862383OOOOOO BA-NA-NAH
getting ready for friday's commander at my lgs. I got some cards and made some tweaks according to the meta. Got more multicolor removal spells but reduced some protection cards. This is not an issue because there are rakdos/golgari decks lurking around in my lgs who use edict effects and -X/-X boardwipes instead of target/destroy effects.
>apparently casual format>every deck is a synergistic value engine
Thirty (30) starting life is objectively superior to fourty (40)
>>98862561is this rokirric anon? good luck, we're rooting for ya
>>98862561what's the point of running tocasia's welcome with only 8 creatures of 3cmc of less in your entire fucking deck?
Once again I am asking how to play Slivers but not as 5cgoodstuff.dek
>>98862590Play Rukarumel and name Vampires then run Grixis Slivampires
>>98862588too bad his commander doesn't create creatures with 0 cmc huh... it'd be really good if that were the case but I guess not
>>98862567Why should a casual deck be a usless fuck pile, anon? Can you answer me that?
>>98862608>the only two forms a deck can exist in is OTK or useless fuck pile
>>98862590The issue I can see with slivers is people get really worried when all your slivers are buffing each other. It can make you into a target. I have a shit bracket 2 sliver deck that uses Iron to give other people slivers too. But I give them the ones that give the global buffs and keep the ones that give player only buffs for myself. It's playing the politics game instead.
>>98862578>is this rokirric anon?Yes, it's me. I am trying to improve my deck since my goal right now is to get enough credits to buy an elspeth, storm slayer (some cards on my lgs can only be bought with store credits>>98862588>retarded people asking retarded questionsthe little fella on the left helps me with that
>>98862611Where or when did I say that a deck can only exist in two forms, anon? I'm literally only say that just because a deck is casual doesn't mean it can't have synergistic value engines that relate to its themes. Seems like you have brain worms.
>>98862623why do you have another box?
>>98862561>See another anon plays General Iron Rock>Excited to look at another take a him>Look inside>A fuckton of generic value engines and mono-colored cards.You are like little baby. Watch THIS:https://manabox.app/decks/NOYmKls8QaWNyJaIikPR1A
every deck is supposed to be a generic goodstuff pile in its colors but not too good
>>98862655>You are like little baby.Hey, it's my first boros deck (literally has 1 month) and I will take some time to get better cards.On the other hand, i appreciate you shared your list with me.
>>98862662>i appreciate you shared your list with me.No problem, looking at yours made me look back at mine, thinking maybe it was a mistake to remove a few. But glad to have helped.
>>98862662>borosBased
>>98862814wizards quit doing this...
I am unironically looking forward to playing the Klingon precon. I have more reverence for Star Trek than I do for TMNT, Marvel/Spider-Man, and even Avatar.
>>98862901
>>98862901based
>>98862057Yeah it fucking sucks maybe wotc will finally get the hint after this shit flops
>>98862057>>98862965The anti-UB thread is the other way champ
>>98862975Nobody asked you
>>98862975>this dumb motherfucker can't tell the difference between inclusive and exclusive
>>98862975N-No! Shut up! Hobbit didn't sell well! I saw it on the shelves at my LGS! Never mind it's now the #4 set of all-time! The quarter was carried by Reality Fracture! I cried when Jace died! Everyone loves Jace and Loot!
>>98863022This but unironicallyEdhg is a jace loving threadGot my wife this lingerie last weekShit it's so cash, we might have another 4 kids
>>98863022>Finding UB tacky means I have to love lootI don't think that's how any of this works.
>>98863039>Finding UB tacky means I have to love lootHe said it himself here guys, this is how they think
>>98863022>N-No! Shut up! Hobbit didn't sell well! I saw it on the shelves at my LGS!no contradictionsell-through =/= wotc saleseven piderman did well from WotC's perspective
>>98863035no!Blue mages have micro penisHaven't you seen the femdom gif?!
>>98863096Post it anon, I want to masturbate to it again.
>>98863095>i see UB on shelves therefore wotc will stop UB in two weeks i swear
>>98863148Here's to hoping!
>>98863035Unironically hotJace Foideren when?
>>98863035>This is considered lingerie to /edhg/
>>98863152haha you wish uwfag
Where is the cheapest place to buy bulk orders of sleeves? I am bad at shuffling and destroy my sleeves pretty fast, so I have decided I just want to buy like 5 crates of the same color of sleeves and use that same color forever.
>>98863157Magic players don't know how to create OC. They only bitch and moan about others not doing stuff for them.
what are good cards for Denzil that aren't on EDHRec already?I have Flying with Abzan FalconerI have unblockable with Herald of Secret Streams and Rikku, Resourceful Guardian.I could add Danny Pick.this is my list if anyone cares: https://moxfield.com/decks/RS9yI5Ft0k-iSuyGRAOyTQ
>>98863230Sorry you gotta build your own deck or ask a more specific questionScryfall searches are a good place to start
>>98863230Eyes of the Watcher probably isn't on edhrec because it sucks balls but you should play it anyway.
>>98863220it's been more than 30 years and wotc still can't make a franchise out of their OCs for their lives
>>98863294If you write a fanfic you unironically win by default and the story director puts it in the game because it shows you're top 0.1% of Vorthos if you gave enough of a fuck to actually make something.
How do you feel about decks that win with non-deterministic engines? Like storm, for example. Sure there's a chance they can win if they start going off on turn 4, but there's a chance they fizzle too. It gets more likely the more turns of the game pass, typically.
>>98863309End result of what happens when you keep complaining about Johnny doing infinites so now he's wasting even more of your time doing the "fair" version that requires him to play it out every time.
Alesha, Who Laughs At Fate or The Infamous Cruelclaw for an "all gas, no brakes"/"no exit strat" pseudo-meme deck?
>>98863309>How do you feel about decks that win with non-deterministic engines?there's a reason this is banned and it's not because of its actual power level
>>98863309If I have to watch somebody combo off for 15 minutes only for them to not win, I'm going after them first in every game I play with them to save us all the trouble. Non-deterministic combos aren't reasonable at lower power tables just because they are inconsistent, and at higher power tables they are just wasting time. Have some self respect and play a deck that actually works, for the benefit of everybody around you.
>>98863324That being said it's pretty fucking powerful Cedh viable There's only two cards I was glad to remove from my decks after they got banned This and iona
>>98863309>Tutors broken value engine that makes your turn take 40 minutesAww you're sweet>1 storm turnHello, human resources?
>>98863342>using the cucked artCouldn't be me
>>98863170I've seen what makes you cum, your cries of "fag" mean nothing to me
>>98863336>Cedh viablelol no
>>98863354>nobody ever played sisay storm with paradox engineSure thing pal
>>98863360>why would they bother doing that now if ever paradox engine is unbanned is the pointr/whoosh
>>98863342Essentially this, yeah. Nobody bats an eye when fags jerk themselves off and take 10+ minute turns every turn with their piles of goodstuff, but for whatever reason the storm player who takes 30 second turns for the entire game up until his storm turn (and likely wins that turn) is the problem.
>>98863349big words there chubby chaser kek
Is my main deck bracket 3?I moved to a new city and people here tend to use the bracket system. I don't know much about it because we didn't use brackets in my previous city.https://moxfield.com/decks/8aEbQ1370UqzW59vOnNCZw
>>98863360The storm build wasn't nearly as good as the toolbox build but yes sissay was pretty decent especially considering the colorsI also saw paradox engine in 4c piles with scepter and more than one mono blue deck that used itWould it be good now? Yeah, it's a busted card.
>>98863373Hell yeah
>>98863377it's a 2 relax
>>98863377It's certainly not bracket 4. Slow, relatively easily disruptable voltron is not that great if your opponents play interaction, which they should in bracket 3. Doesn't even have any game changers. Could easily play this in bracket 2 and be fine, and win a lot of games in bracket 3 if people disrespect you.
>>98863366Hmm this post has me torn, on one hand pretending to know what shit is = cringe but not actually playing cedh = based
>>98863377>9 creatures in your equipment deck>General costs 4I wouldn't worry about it
>>98863397man you should've seen the retards who thought unbanning gifts ungiven would break the format
traded my smothering tithe for an RKF enlightened tutor like a year ago and i'm pretty pissed to see tithe has gone up to 70 fucking bucks. I didn't think I really needed it in my sythis deck, which I don't, but it's still an absurdly good enchantment for 4 mana. Will probably just go get one printed frankly, or not bother with it and keep pretending my sythis deck is super budget for being under 200 bucks.
>>98862049So far I don’t really care for Star Trek cards. Still working on my planeswalker deck. >https://archidekt.com/decks/26976205/man_who_the_hell_even_is_esikaI switched from Tam, the Possibility to The Prismatic Bridge and popped in some upgrades so I’m hoping it’ll play a bit more consistently. I just don’t want to fork out a couple hundred bucks for the lands.
>>98862049>TQPeace is a choice.
>>98863411>wants to play 5c>wants the manabase to be strong AND cheap
>>98863411>>98863433Good news! We have a fix for that too!
>>98862049>TQI fucking hate Star Trek so all of them
>>98863405My opinion on card value is that you should never look at cards as assets that maintain value. Trading out often has CONSIDERABLE friction, when my daughter was born I sold all of my expensive cards and got like 800 bucks, sounds like a lot but after 15 years of playing its a pittance compared to what I spent on the game. I also ended up buying some of the cards backso back to the point, the value of cards should be their playability and collectability. You valued the RKF enlightened tutor more than [[generic value piece #17]] and the fickle price fluctuations of the market went against you, at the end of the day you got a card you wanted and that's really what matters.It's the other end of finding cards that are absurdly good but worthless, you will experience both. This is also why buying cards because of FOMO is a losing venture, but thats starting to go off on a tangent so ill leave it at that.
>>98863411*plays blood moon*
>>98863454>You valued the RKF enlightened tutor more than [[generic value piece #17]]You know, looking at it like this I'm not really all that mad about it. I mean I did look at it like this while making the post but I didn't really convey that at all really. Enlightened tutor is one of the few cards I prefer a newer printing to it's old border, and I'm glad I've got the rkf art and I'm really quite happy I got it from a trade with a friend, because that hardly ever happens anymore.
>>98863433>isn’t aware that most dual colour lands are worth less than a buckAin’t no one is going to buy your $2000 bayous and your triomes bro, keep that shit in your binder. I am content with “consistent half the time I play” quality of land bases.
>>98862049>TQ: what trek card caught your eye? bonus points you don't mention replicatorI'm going to make my own holiday scene box and frame it on my wall. I love star trek. I love mtg, but I just don't think I can put any cards in my deck. The DS9 Station card looks pretty neat though so Ill go with that if nothing else
>>98863444https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1792657568217915.mp4
>>98863441I would like to make a more experimental wubrg deck with him in the command zone some day. I attempted to do it when the FF set first came out and I was still learning things about deck building and following the town gimmick just didn’t work, you have to have some other strategy in mind and forget the town shit.
>>98863433>>wants to play 5c>>wants the manabase to be strong AND cheap1x City of Brass1x Command Tower1x Contaminated Landscape1x Exotic Orchard1x Fabled Passage1x Mana Confluence1x Prismatic Vista1x Seething Landscape1x Sheltering Landscape10x Snow-Covered Forest5x Snow-Covered Island3x Snow-Covered Mountain3x Snow-Covered Plains3x Snow-Covered Swamp1x Tranquil Landscape1x Twisted Landscape1x Birds of Paradise (RAV)1x Chromatic Lantern (RTR)1x Cultivate (M11)1x Faeburrow Elder (ELD)1x Farseek (M13)1x Into the North1x Kodama's Reach (CHK)1x Rampant Growth (000)1x Sakura-Tribe Elder (000:6)1x Search for Tomorrow (TSP)1x Wayfarer's Bauble (5DN)give something like this a shot
>98862965>had to respond to himself because no one agrees with himlol, lmao even
>>98863493Amulet of Vigor in the command zone lets you do a lot of fun things. Look at amulet titan lists in modern for a few of them. There's a lot of redundant or overcosted or legacy cards that fit in that sort of shell too. Also any ramp spell that specifies you get lands tapped becomes absurd.Also put Spelunking in the deck, good card and good redundancy.
>>98863405>traded a generic value engine for a fuckass tutor that doesn’t even play the thing you want for freeI guess you aren’t aware that “redundancy > tutors” is the go to mind set nowadays huh? You probably get raped by mill decks.
This will teach you everything about Commander! Highly recommend building Katara counterspell tribal. Teaches you so much about the game.
>>98863516>get raped by mill decksLol. Lmao even. Sure, put all my good cards in my graveyard, that's a good idea. Never actually played against a mill deck ever, but I assure you I would be more than equipped to handle one.Tutors are not entirely for redundancy. Tutors let me get Rest in Peace if you're playing a graveyard deck, tutors let me get Stony Silence if you're playing with artifacts, tutors let me get Solemnity if you're playing with counters. And, of course, tutors let me get the best value pieces in my deck for the current situation as well, if that's what it calls for. And enlightened tutor lets me do this on the play before me's endstep so I have as much information on the situation as possible. It being card disadvantage is not as much of a problem when every enchantment draws me a card.
>>98863516The mill deck rapes itself by virtue of being a mill deck in 2026 you may as well LARP that YGO decks lose to GY mill.
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>>98863538Are you running a cool monowhite enchantments deck? If yes, can I see it?
>>98863508>spelunkingSpeaking of that card, the FF legend I did settle on building a commander around was Choco, Seeker of Paradise, I run both Amulet to Vigor and Spelunking for the immediate mana advantage. It isn’t a very strong deck but it’s rather persistent with the protection and recursion. Also it’s my one and only landfall deck, most players should only have one landfall deck at most as it’s the most braindead easy archetype to build around.>https://archidekt.com/decks/22071599/birdbrain
>>98863540I recently lost a 5 round match to lightbringer mill otk with my fiendsmith garbagepile, dont rub it in
>when your friend asks for decks to play on TTS and he says your deck got everyone else tiltedfeelsgoodman.png
>>98863542>a cool monowhite enchantments deckI do own a Light-Paws deck, but I'm not entirely sure that fits what you're thinking of here. I've got a sythis deck and the white enchantments in it are mostly the good hate effects that are a little too slow for Light Paws to play. I don't have a proper list of either online though, I like changing a few of the "fun" slots out a lot depending on how I'm feeling. I really should get a list up of them though it would make changing things easier.
Still waiting to see if they do a Neelix. Pretty much the only character I wanted to make a deck out of just because I think it'd be silly
Did they do a Q card where Q turns another creature into a cup of jizz? They should break the “no planeswalkers in UB” rule for Q specifically, it would be very fitting.
>>98863593Odo already becomes a cup of jizz every 16 hours, Q needs his own thing
>>98863537This sentiment but with cards like Hermes, Alandra and Talrand. Get the new niggas making tokens when they counterspell and cantrip spam so they actually get feedback from their casts.
>friend plays nothing but valueslop spellslingers>yshtola azula stellalee etc>tries a "new" deck>its just draw spell and counterspell spam blue LyraHow do i get this nigga to try something new, two other people are getting annoyed with him already
>>98863646Make him look at landfall. Worst case scenario he plays simic slop.
>>98863646Force him to play something in red or black with any accompanying colour except blue.
>>98863537Geist of Saint Thalia powercrept Baral
>>98863646Beat his ass, get people to coordinate removal.
>>98863672meh. fantastic inclusion in the 99, but the looting effect of baral is great and most of the noncreature spells you're casting are going to be instants or sorceries anyway. of course saint thalia gets a lot better if you fill your deck with 1 mana artifacts as well, but then you're building a fundamentally slightly different deck than baral at that point
>>98863661I tried this once with an izzet player and he built the most aids turboshit ever.
>>98863692based, honestly. good deckbuilders and players being forced into colors they dont usually play and finding a way to maximize what they do best is nice to see
>>98863695they aren't deckbuilding anon, they're just copying lists
>>98863688Personally my Baral shifted toward a labman/mill cantrip focused deck, and Baral's filtering didn't come into play a lot. I also think there's a psychological opportunity cost of slapping Baral on the table "ugh you're playing counterspell tribal", vs Geist being open ended. Of course if you're actually playing counterspell tribal it'll come up a lot more.
>>98863706>here's a psychological opportunity cost of slapping Baral on the table "ugh you're playing counterspell tribal"That's absolutely true, yeah. Especially true if playing against people you haven't played against before and/or if you're just bringing a new deck to the table. It's like playing a deck headed by Atraxa (either one), you're getting focused by people just by virtue of that alone no matter what your deck is actually doing, flying under the radar has it's perks.Saint Thalia is MUCH better if you're intending to play to the board and have value enchantments and artifacts instead of almost purely playing on the stack, but then that opens you up to being vulnerable to removal in ways baral isn't. You can still play lots of counterspells and counterspell effects with Thalia though, and I'm fairly certain using one or the other still makes the other an almost auto include in the 99 anyway. You'd probably be better off switching to Thalia in your case.
>>98863646>Friend plays a lot of control/stax decks>He makes a new deck that is a theft deck.>Of course tergrid is the commander>At one point in the game has gravepact and both braids and the new avacyn out at the same time.
>>98863725My biggest thing with playing Baral as a counterspell deck was "ok, how do I actually WIN?" I found cutting a lot of the more specialized counterspells and replacing them with things that allowed me to have a board presence helped out a lot there, but then you could argue at that point it became a cantrip deck vs a counterspell deck. So I guess I never wanted to play control and just liked casting cheap spells a lot. One thing I think is important is that interaction that isn't counterspells also doesn't trigger his filtering, and countering abilities doesn't. And a cheeky pongify and stifle are still worth including. Finally, pure filtering kinda gives me choice paralysis, especially if I draw something good. There's been times I just don't use it
How do you determine what is a reasonable casual commander deck? Casual being like bracket 3
>>98863701Then they’re a retard, force them to build their own deck and have them explain to you why they added each individual card and how they think it synergises or interacts with the rest of the deck. If they won’t do it banish them to precon hell.
>>98863758Defab is one of my favorites for something like Baral, essentially just a better Stifle with any reducer out because it's 1 mana too. Still often run actual factual Stifle too though.>ok, how do I actually WIN?i guess winning almost always requires some level of board presence, so you'd be vulnerable to removal anyway. Triskaidekaphile is a pretty funny one you could try winning with, not even that memey of a card to include when it's not winning you the game either as having no max hand size is a decent effect and drawing a card without spending a card in your hand is a welcome way to spend your mana if you didn't need to counter that cycle. And of course like you said, lab man works. Would be fun to include a cheeky brain freeze in your list too for the effort which I assume you do.The main problem with draw go control specifically is knowing when to cast your threats or go for a win, you need to find a window of opportunity and the puzzle is getting there by correctly assessing threats and spending your resources appropriately. It's kinda hard.
>>98863775pretty simple>does it lose to the decks you play against 75% of the time
>>98863775goldfishing, make sure your deck isn't breaking the entire game in half by turn 5-6 but is doing something viable and able to respond to other players trying to play higher impact early
Any way to make this garbage work?
>>98863830In the 99 of this probably
>>98863830shitting out lands and making them creatures is extremely easy, giving them doublestrike makes lethal even easierdon't overthink it
>>98863840How do you even win with that? Also its any fun to play on b3?
>>98863830You ramp excessively, play triggered ability copiers and all of the lands that have keywords attached to them. Aside from focus on lands you’re going to play it the same way you would play gruul Etali.
>>98863845>How do you even win with that?Combat damage, and having more lands than you know what to do with. I'm sure you can figure something out.
>>98863845Like a faster grixis Mishra, play lots of artifacts that have death and enter triggers and vehicles with attack triggers. Win with value.
>>98863830Ability lands like Darksteel Citadel, ink moth nexus, earthbending arena type stuffI think there's a land with reach too
>>98863830Seems fine enough. You pile up ways to animate lands, things that care about land creatures and/or +1/+1 counters, and Landfall effects for free value.
>>98863646>>98863661We have the same friend. He swears he's a black player, but can't let go of blue.
>https://archidekt.com/decks/22639303/el_cadenasI think I have perfected this deck to the point of where I want it to be, and I kept some of my pet cardsfeels good
>have a friend who can't let go of blue>Never runs any counterspells
>>98863910the fuck is he playing blue for? rhystic study? cantrips?
>>98863915No, and no. Every deck his plays has blue in it. The only thing of note that he runs are consecrated sphinx, and time stretch and some jank bulk draw spells.
>>98863198Probably Aliexpress
>>98863910Well it depends on what other options he has, if it’s blue with green then he should be running counter spells but if he has access to any other colour he could go without counter spells comfortably.
>>98863904>both pyroblast and rebbased. no quarter for blue.no entomb is a little interesting but fair if you wanted to avoid tutors entirely or something. seems fun. favorite pet card you've got in the list?
>>98863537No, I prefer my opponent's not to hate me and the game
>>98863537>Hello, I need a shit take>No, that is too shitty.
>playing the other night>two people I've never seen before in the lgs join table >they stow hands to each other constantly and talk about plans The fuck do I do in that situation? It's blatant cheating
>>98863554Do you have a list for Azula?
Unban 15 mana emrakul it is the ultimate timmy card. If you can get the cast trigger you deserve to win.
>>98863976It's rampant. Sitting down to a pod with two bozos you don't know is an implicit double-team kingmaker fag shit. No, I'm not projecting
>>98863936those two are especially useful in the deck because it's a big tempo hit for all the value slops like yshtolas, tevals, chulanes, miiryms, etc, and if I'm not against blue I can just discard them to cast my creatures, I'm not giving up much opportunity costyeah no entomb is deliberate, not really avoiding tutors but I wanted to try ones you might see less often, like Oriq loremagefav pet card is definitely Cauldron dance. It's overcosted, needs a good creature in yard and hand to get the full value, and would probably be better to run more instant speed removal like Baleful mastery in its place. But I have it in foil so it stays in
>>98863888I tried that once but one of my friend was playing dragons and killed me way too fast since i was playing grull so almost no way to kill his big stuff or protect me from attacks...
>>98864115>Gruul>No way to stop flyers>No way to prevent damage>In fucking GRUULJust say your deck fucking sucks and your bad at the game, rather than blame your friend's deck.
>>98864115>>98864125Forgot to say>No way to kill his creatures>IN FUCKING GRUULYeah, you're just a 3rd rate duelist with a 4th rate deck.
>>98864135How do i kill a dragon with 8 health? Make it fight with my 4/4 land creature? Lightning bolt 3 times?
I have a rules question.Assume i have this guy and also a card that doubles his triggered effect (i.e. Delney).If an opponent then chooses to tap his permanent in response to the first trigger, what happens with the second trigger?The permanent still "entered" untapped, but he now can't tap it again since it's already tapped by the first trigger resolving, does that mean the second trigger would guarantee me a token?
>>98864039https://moxfield.com/decks/4MBEwm4M-EKmTWV75pq7pQCards in sideboard are ones I still need to buy to finish the deck in paper
>>98864161from scryfall>If the permanent is tapped as the ability resolves, the opponent can't choose to tap it, so you'll create a Vampire token. Similarly, if it's no longer on the battlefield as the ability resolves, they can't choose to tap it, and you'll create a Vampire token.so yes
>>98864161>does that mean the second trigger would guarantee me a token?yes
>>98864115>Green, the color with many board wipes with kill spells and board wipes explicitly for fliersCome on anon.
>>98864185Cringe ass nae nae mascot
>>98864155Wow. That was hard. You can also give your give your creatures deathtouch and have them bite. There's X burn spells...it really does seem like you're a fucking retard.
>>98864100>Opponent removes her>Now you're at 0 health and deadcrap card
>>98863230Lord of Eagles for flying payoff.
>>98863830counter doublersTerrasymbiosisgreater goodattacking players with your 20/20 double strike land
>>98862965It won't. UBs never flops even the garbage ones like Spider-Man.
>>98863830Take notes from my soon-not-to-be-Lesbo deck. Only reason it's not 100 cards is because this chuckle-fuck isn't on Manabox yet.
>>98863830>>98864306Forgot decklist like a retard:https://manabox.app/decks/adEGR349S9Gj7uqlNImKWw
Will you be using?
>>98864115For me, it's fogs in green. This one in particular for any deck that deals with lands is especially fantastic at both stalling the game so you can get your engines set up and keeping the game locked down when your engines are going.
>>98864329Can't forget all star elephant grass as well. Don't drop it turn 1 or anything, but by the time you need it down the cumulative upkeep shouldn't be too bothersome until you've managed to clear their board (or convince others to do it for you) or make enough of a board that what they have doesn't matter. Green is the 2nd best "prevent others from attacking me" color behind white.
>>98864318no
>>98864318>closeups of actors' faces, the seteven disregarding the UB debate, what a turd of a thing to do
>>98864318He's going in Ardbert for sure
>>98864318>healed has appeared on two UB cards and zero UW cards
>>98864115>gruul>fucking up THE color combo that has beatsticks, spot removal, board wipes, haste, and trampleThat's one shit deck, and if not, you are one shit player.
>>98864318the number of weirdly styled card frames has really gotten out of hand, it's now difficult to tell the difference between "real" cards and fan made cards, many don't look like they even belong to this game.
Convince me to not make an Edric deck.
>>98864481SOVL
>>98864318I mean. It might be worth going in my Anim Pakal deck. I'll have to make a proxy to be sure.
>>98864462>UG>elf>everyone can abuse its effectYou might as well wear a shirt that says 'I suck cock' to fnm
>>98864589>You might as well wear a shirt that says 'I suck cock' to fnmBased. Been looking for a boyfriend anyways.
>>98864240That's literally why the card is coolThe thrill of danger>ubNevermindShit card
>>98864589Counterpoint:
>>98864617more like>nutrekshit card
>>98864761either or
>>98864631>convince me>offers counterpointsI don't think you know how this works
6 years ago I pulled Atraxa and Doubling Season from an insanely cracked box of double masters. With this in mind, can I be forgiven for assembling a half-poison half-superfriends Atraxa deck and bringing it to pods that btfo my polite decks as an act of vengeance?
>>98865063sure
>>98862655whats wrong with having value engines that avoid you from having an empty hand?
>>98865063Do whatever you want.
>>98865063no it's not, edhg forbids it
>>98863538You are one of my favorite types of food. The face you make when you realize that all my mill exiles is second only to the one you'll make when I deluge the board then Bitter Ordeal your quivering pile into a sloppy useless mess :^)
>>98865087>>98865138okay thanks guys if anyone complains I'll refer them to you>>98865163oh shoot nevermind
>>98864174That's odd because you can choose to tap a tapped permanent.
>>98863220>some anon creates a legitimate attempt at Magic OC and other fan material >hyper autistic retards immediately jump down their throat for trying to do so>the anon who like it don't engage at allThat's all that happens whenever someone tries to get creative on these threads. That's why /tg/ hasn't created anything of relevance in over a decade.
>>98865186that's a cute play to make on turn 11 of a bracket 2 game timmy, truly. i bet it made you so happy to finally have that come together. shame about your 10% winrate, but hey, the game's about having fun right?
>>98865209for effects that tap permanents you can choose tapped permanents, yes. but if the effect requires a permanent to BECOME tapped, like in the case of this vampire chaff, then choosing an already tapped permanent doesn't work, because it doesn't BECOME tapped, it already is.
>see people posting pulling a one ring from collector samplers>decide to crack my set of 4 commander decks ive had sealed for ages>most valauble card is a barad-durFELL FOR IT AGAIN
>>98864318Nah. If I'm worried about my creatures dying in combat I'll just use Iroas or something else that gives them indestructible. If I'm worried about them getting swept up in a board wipe I'll use Dawn's Truce or Clever Concealment. McCoy doesn't do nearly enough to warrant him in the 99 of a counter deck, even if you were blinking him.
>>98864100If you dont know a lick of trek (say for example you're a nip or chink) this can easily be an in-universe card in your head, which speaks to just how generic mtg's fantasy design is
>>98865320The Gay Bolas poster had a win by default because he wrote a fanfic that the story director liked and he ended up guest designing a card in MBC. You can legitimately get poached by WotC for doing the bare fucking minimum because so much of the playerbase would rather bitch and whine than show how they would do it better.
>see people winning big on gambling videos they posted>decide to go dump my paycheque at the casino>lose it allHOW COULD THIS BE I SAW PEOPLE WINNING IN THE CURATED VIDEOS THEY UPLOADED!
>>98865402What do you think about my custom card?
>>98865409Only needs "as a sorcery" clause. 5 mana so 60-card constructed won't give a shit and no blue so you're missing 90% of easy untappers. Could use some clarification that the toughness refers back to creatures you sacrificed. Honestly could even trim down on colored pip count but it's w/e I get the flavor.
>>98865409Give her lifelink and trim the second ability to only as a sorcery like the other anon said and it's fineish i guess.turning big butts into high mana cost creatures is pretty unique i think. though of course you'd never put something like this guy in there, but still.
>>98865409custom card faggots are way too into hybrid mana. There's no reason for the mana cost except that you want your waifu to be even more super special. Only as a sorcery and only during your turn is redundant in this case and the once per turn limit is gay when she's tapping for it anyway. Let people do it multiple times if they're going far enough to spend cards on untap sources.
>>98865402>so much of the playerbase would rather bitch and whine than show how they would do it betterThe bare minimum wotc could do is make a fucking normal het ship like jace x lili so that the fanfic writers can go from there but the best they could get was a fucking scalie with an incest fetish
>>98865488Because the scalie didn't need to wait for WotC to endorse his idea before he wrote it.
>>98865498It takes two to tangoPeople make degenerate fanfics all the time on all sorts of IPs, doesnt mean the rights holders would entertain themWotc is just full of degenerate seattle fucks
>>98865505
GOBBO ANON MAKE A SEXY GOBBO PROXY OF OJER AXONIL AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
>>98865541> AND MY LIFE IS YOURSThat's a lot of responsibility. I'll get on it after I finish two other things though.
Does scryfall have a way to search for every dilemma yet?
15 Days until Star Trek
>>98865763Didn't reality fracture just come out? They're not giving these sets time to breathe.
>>98865775No time. No time. UB makes money, no time. Push it out. The old board members who don't play need their money, No time.
Lads, what's a decent precon I can buy to take to locals and help me learn the game? Ideally not UB unless the Final Fantasy ones are considered good.
>>98865812The recent Foundations precons could be a relatively safe bet for that. They've all got pretty straightforward game plans and should be good for figuring out the basics.The FF decks are solid overall, though I wouldn't suggest the FF10 one specifically if you're very new. There's a lot of tracking of counters that can really slow the game down if the player doesn't know what they're doing.
>>98865825the ff6 one is also terrible
>>98865505You're only proving the point if you want the designers to hold your hand and pander to you, before you take any personal steps to showing the potential in your idea.
>>98865850don't pass the blame on the consumer, wotc shillfanfic writers do it for free, if they can't be bothered to write for your fantasy world then your world is just shit to begin with
>all of the reasonably priced lgs close>tcg player sucks donkey balls>card kingdom and the lgs that charges 25% over tcg mid are the only real optionsI thought mtg was doing well
>>98865857You get out what you put in. If all you do is sit on your ass and whine you're only getting what you deserve.
>>9886576315 days until i can buy new shocklands
>>98865866Not sure what country you're in but in Australia we usually just sell to each other using FB groups or ebay. With the 10% tax on card kingdom it usually ends up being cheaper. Card kingdom has a much better selection though.
>>98865902do the same in canada. only really buy from LGSs for specific printings or if I wanna buy a bucketload of $1-5 cards that'd be a pain to hunt down
>>98865919NTA but have you tried using snapcaster? It's not a total fix but it's helped me not have to overpay for a copy of Xorn. Also being real, LGS overcharged regardless since they're charging like 50 leafbux for a foundation starter deck.
>>98865937thats' what I mean by LGS's. 90% of the time if I want some special fred ultra shiny sperm foil version of a card i use thatabout the only thing my local LGSs sell for good rates is accessories like sleeves. sadly they dont carry my preferred deckboxes so i amazon those
>>98865875Jokes on you i'm a UB chad so i'm eating good AND get to whine about shitty UW
>>98865966I kneel
Is this deck/commander any fun?
>>98865966Based UB Chad. UW is too trans now so our only safe haven is the licensing restrictions of UB that prevent wotc from trooning out too hard.
>>98866049>UW is too trans>posts basednicLOL
>>98866048my first cummander she cute only problem is she has multiple two card infinite combos so you will NOT be treated as a unique quirky chungus
>>98866055>a franchise with a degenerate fanbase and infamously shitty games>suddenly gets a normie trilogy that *actually get better* as it goes>fanfare ensuesUWfags will never learn
>>98866067>sonic movies>goodwild to me that ipad babies are on 4chan now
>>98866074they're better than the nonexistent mtg netflix series that's for sure
>WotC is quitting hasbroUh?UHHH?
>>98866095Yeah I wish
>>98866095Literally the opposite. The CEO has hasbro has just assumed direct control of WotC.
>>98866095and other things that will litterally never happen
>>98865902Come to the Queen St Vault bro
>>98865812>learn the game>commander First you play a real format like Modern, Pioneer or Standard
>>98865812Foundations or something from Ixalan
>>98865812DONT play modern pioneer or standard it makes mustard gas!in truth i dont know the proper place to start anymore, standard used to be it but it's such a fucking disaster at this point. draft is horrible to start with because it requires a lot of game knowledge you don't have, but once you know how the game works draft and sealed of sets that are good for draft and sealed are some of the best fun you can have. commander is not a good place to start. it's not the most complex format, but the scenarios that can appear in the game are the most common to perplex and confuse new players because of just the shear amount of things that go on.
>>98866124>>98866130a 4 man pod using only the unmodified foundations commanders is, in fact, currently the best way of learning magic (aka edh nowadays)
>>98866134BUT WHICH FOUR
>>98866134I agree with this. I picked up all five of the mono-colored commander decks from a few years back. They're the best tool I've ever had for teaching the game because they were balanced against each other, and each deck had a different playstyle that I could easily explain.
Soon
>>98866161I don't know what these schizo scribbles mean
>>98866161the fuck is this
>>98866161why do moids never take any time to learn how to write legibly
>>98866161sorry I don't speak schizo
>>98866124Sorry, I meant "learn Commander as a game." My understanding is there are no standard precons anymore beyond the starter kits. I would strongly prefer to play standard or draft, but my city won't let me.>>98866128>>98865825Cheers, just bought the green and white Foundation decks. I actually had the FF ones already, but I didn't want to admit it outright so as to bait for alternative recs. Seems the VII deck may be the best to try among those? If X is too complex and VI is shit according to another anon, and I'm too cisgendered for anything XIV related.
>>98866161
>>98866169Wearing thigh-high socks doesn't make you a woman, Scott.
>>98862260People went crazy for avatar. It feels like it could actually be a plane in the game and has some uhh...let's say chase mythics. The bending powers were all relatively cool. It was a good set peak millenials have nostalgia for.
>>98866254I'm happy to be building a landfall deck where I can feel like I'm not missing out on anything by not including this thing. All it would really do for me is let me fire a fetch twice or a wasteland twice, which is fine I guess but otherwise not very impactful. Animating lands isn't my plan and I don't have any mana dorks
>want to play a commander>4 mana into the garbage
>>98866055>based-nic Too true, UB mogs.
>>98866280It's not so bad if you can always play him on turn 3. Otherwise, he better be threatening to win you the game if he's in play for a turn cycle or two. Either with extreme value or just outright winning.otherwise otherwise.... 4 mana do nothing is a totally acceptable play in brackets 2 and 3. plenty of fun to be had there.
>>98866280>"I SUCK AT DECKBUILDING, PLEASE SPOONFEED ME WINS"
>>98866280Uh oh!Buils-around-me brain!
>>98866314correct, your entire deck should be built around synergizing with your commander, under $50, and beat bracket 4 randos with zero impulse control
>>98866057That's not avoidable by not using the "if other lose damage you heal"?
>simic guy has a board of like seven dudes>side-eyeing my utvara hellkite>mirrorforms his stuff into it>btfos tableWould it have been BM to scoop while he was targeting me to have the mirror form fizzle
>>98866345yes but it's always funny
>>98866254It also hypes that Avatar had really fun AND strong set mechanics and a generally high power level with lots of cards that supported mildly popular deck types that don't get nearly as much support as shit like Elves or Artifacts get.
>>98866322Oh, I got one of those!
old list: https://moxfield.com/decks/-qyjxOjzm0ObMsMHMqyp3gnew list: https://moxfield.com/decks/6T6ElC9Kx02hcyiQumgFGwwhat do you think of kraven with almost zero fluff
>>98866280The best commander in the format is 6 mana and mono-white, git gud
>>98866322>under $50Hello, my name is proxy
>>98866397I find price to be a good metric for popularityA budget deck utilizing cards that are commonly printed or overlooked is more interesting than printing out a bunch of expensive cards
>>98866397poor impulse control fify
>>98866384Looks like shit desuWhy is your land count so low?
>>98866407There is merit to this, but everyone should have a pro printed mono blue control that would be worth $14000+ if it were "real" just to learn how to pilot something like that.
>>98866396wotc should make jewlotus and mana crypt GCs already so i can finally jump into the dack jesus train
>>98862064I've checked all 720 cards on scryfall with "choose one" in their text and the 70 with "choose two." There's not enough playable ones to make him worth it over Fury.
>>98866422I agreeJust spent the last 3 weeks with this duel commander list on mtgohttps://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mtgo-duel-commander/The only bad part is, aside from the prohibitive paper price, it doesn't scale THAT well to 4 players, you can obviously go aetherflux it just kinda fucks with your storm turn, not having the flashback on brainfreeze
>>98866429LED and Manavault and Mycosynth Gardens are pretty good substitutes thobeit
>>98866444>the prohibitive paper priceIt's bullshit that TCG's are allowed to flagrantly violate gambling age laws in the western world, they should be required to have their own print on demand services.I whole-heartedly support the idea of replacing "official" with custom printed cards exclusively because price should not be a limitation on the game for anyone.
>>98866452then go play cedh where everyone plays the statistically best cards with no worry over price
>>98866448i know, i'm just well aware that dack is the best deck right now that actually wins through the combat step while being resilient as fuckhttps://moxfield.com/decks/0jZHlPP9sUSxlwQi6DsNtw
>>98866452Idk if I'd go that farBut I do also play Ashes and the print on demand model is extremely dope. There's room for both models
>>98866444lol without candelabra and intuition this deck is pretty cheap actually as far as i can see, and the deck absolutely doesn't need candelabra to do it's thing there's enough untappers otherwise. could even skimp out on the fetches if you really wanted to and only lose some brainstorm value. you could probably find success with this in 4 player games you'd just have to be more worried about removal
>>98866444>LierMan was midnight hunt the last time they had the color saturation right cards? The set looks great and vibrant in a non-corporate optimization way
>>98866463There's so many lines that don't work without candelabra idk if you can cut itDouble that for intuition I did try a 4 player paper version without those cards and was very disappointed didn't even bother publishing the listI'm sure it could work but id rather brew than tune someone elses list
changes I made to calling all angels pre-con:1. baneslayer angel2. lyra archangel of dawn (new Lyra)3. path to exile4. wrath of god5. Archaeomancer's map6.generous gift7. tithe (land toot from Visions)8. Pearl Medallion9. Emeria the Sky Ruin10. Radiant Archangel (pic rel)11. Serra the benevolent (PW)12. forsake the worldly (instant exile art. or enc., cycling)13. ornithopter of paradise14. Four Knocks (Dr who white Phyrexian Arena)15. Flare of Fortitude16. Troop of Ponies17. Island Sanctuary (considered Magus of the Moat but put him in new Kwia deck instead)18. Crusade (5th edition ver., anthem from Alpha)19. Final judgement (exile wrath)20. gold myralso changed out some arts like Marble Diamond to 6th edition and Sunblast Angel to foil Scars of Mirrodin version that came with that precon in 2010. and a bunch of lands obviously (who tf would have the same 2 lands in their deck????!)thoughts??
>>98866458Just because printing makes any card affordagble doesn't mean everyone is going to competitively opotimize.games that are always over by turn 3 aren't fun.
>>98866497oh my bad gold myr was an honorable mention. I had to cut it for the ARKENSTONE. also monologue tax is in there as a placeholder for GLEAMING SPLENDOR.
>>98866452all tcgs are pay to win games by definition and us UBchads happen to be paying the bills to keep your chang games running so you can play for freeyou want a free game? play chess dumbdumb
>>98866497Cuts?
I love stax. I love it especially when it punishes paypigs more. Archon is infinitely more painful when you've got fetchlands fetching duels compared to basics. It also happens to hurt green quite a bit.
>>98866485To elaborateI think if I was to adapt to 4 player i actually would go sphinx boner wand instead of or in addition to the fishbowl, which sounds insane but 7 mana isn't impossible, you can cheat it out with the right package and the board control is not irrelevant also pic relatedI'll probably too lost in the sauce though
>>98866517Once you staxerhoof you never look back
>>98866509why did it say 1? goes from an S tier card to garbage
>>98866517hope you got this then, its a MUST (although I didnt put in the angels deck)>>98866514I cant remember. anything not good that didnt make clue tokens. most of the 3 cost mana rocks. some of the high cost do-nothing angels. OG wrath replaced DOJ. any sorcery removal was replaced with instant, or removal that is conditional (like power 4 or greater for path of exile). Final Judgment replaced Austere command. Arkenstone and Crusade replaced 2 of the other banners. the enchantment that gives the same thing as one of the angels (+1/+1 and vigilance) was cut. no plains were cut I don't think.
Mean Bob BLegendary CreatureSac a creature: .1/1Would be a playable card.
>>98866542I ran Kismet in Sythis for a while. As soon I saw it in scryfall I was absolutely certain I wanted it in sythis, but I was so utterly unimpressed with it every time. I think I mostly just got bad beats with it, it should be a really nice hate piece, but I don't know. Felt like it came on too late as ridiculous as that sounds, and I'd rather play Blind Obedience and another 2 mana enchantment than kismet. When I go to fix up my deck I'll look at kismet again and see if I can fit it in.
>>98866542Seems like reasonable cuts, good luck out there, Angel tribal is cool
>>98866544Boy have I got the card for you. Unless legendary is a requirement for your shitpost, which fair enough
>>98866570yes as a commander
>inb4 wotc prints a mono green amulet of vigor commanderI give it 2 years, they are so creatively bankrupt
>>98866575Close enough?
>>98866580that costs 1 more and it does somethinga 1 drop that just said sac a creature: DO NOTHING would be playable
>>98866579Urabrask existsEven in this broken ass era I've NEVER seen anyone untap with him on the fieldPeople get very irrational about it lol
>>98866579Would love that. Best mono g landfall commander I've clocked is Azusa, can't go wrong basing everything off having access to double exploration I think. The Titania and Titania likes are fine I guess if you want a "wincon" in the command zone, but if you think about it having infinite mana is even more of a stable wincon than that.
>>98866588How about you start with more and see what that looks like firstI expect a full list by the end of the weekend
Abzafixer BLegendary Creature - Pumpkin WarriorSacrifice a creature: Mana in your mana pool becomes any combination of W,B,G.1/1How would this be templated if it had this ability?
Exile target mana pool. It can be regenerated.
>>98866254Its cool they continued this cycle of green cubs that are infinitely better than their adult counterparts
>>98866639I was going to make a felidar cub but apparently it's an actual card
>>98866593Asuza is highly versatile; shes the commander in my big maro-sorcerers stompy deck that I explicitly made with exactly one landfall trigger because its on a maro-sorcerer
There's this motherfucker at my LGS who plays a clown attraction deck and I hate it so much, entire gameplay is setting up to mill for a win.
>>98866651he cute
>>98866676FUCK YOU and your SHITTY attractions, Golbez!
>i decide to start learning commander and play with my friend and his circle (haven't touched in 20y)>friend offers to print any proxies if i find things i like>i love bullshit that makes everyone want me dead>i despise the cross-over BRAND stuff, there is absolutely zero IP that i would ev-Xenomorph Sliver>i need to rewatch the movies, play the games, read the darkhorse comics...
>>98866813
>>98866818I hate UW and no set will ever change that.
Wake me up when they preview a Strange New World version of pic rel...
>>98866838cute
>>98866838When are they going to print a land for: All lands are plains. All lands are islands. All lands are mountains.
>>98866818>now I get to play with my fav IP against spongebob and captain america!lol no thanks, I not 5 anymore who mixes all his toys all the time
>>98866834May I ask, with a bit of irony or schizoposting, why? Genuinely curious.
>>98866870you play with toys too UWfag
>>98866865I don't think they should, the other colors don't really seem to have that sort of thing in their wheelhouse. Green definitely did, and Black was a bit of a stretch but I think it still works the way they did it, Urborg's tomb seeping and infecting every land and turning them into swamps. I mean, I'm almost certain they'll find a way to print it for the other colors (white last, of course) and even worse they'll probably do it with UBshit, but you know. That's how it goes.
>his name is beast>he looks like a beast>but he's not actually a beastmaro wtf
>>98866876projecting today aren't we
>>98866895you wish those funkos were mere projections buddy boy
>>98865329I wonder what you intended to signal by abandoning the argument that mill won't leave your butthole stretched in favor of some fanfic about my big deck
>>98866899are these projections in the room with me right now, schizo-kun?
>>98866905You are dying long before you are able to assemble your 10 card combo in christmasland. And even if you weren't, you could spend 10 of your Bitter Ordeals (being generous here that you'll have that many) on my deck and I would feel next to nothing. Assuming you could even identify the 10 best cards in my deck, I'll still have more than enough auras to smash your face in after, of course if the other two people at the table don't see mill and have their eyes turn red with retard rage and kill you first, because mill has that effect on retards.
>>98866906the only thing to see in your room is that you lost.
>>98866926I don't look like say or do this
>>98866565thanks. avacyn was one I actually didnt put in for whatever reason. same as not putting in the new darksteel angel. I wanted to make the precon better but still have something in the bag for random tables with n00bs because I found even my "lower power" decks with no game changer cards were still over powering to them
>>98866929this has been debunked
>>98866565I wonder how good a Boros Avacyn deck could be in Bracket 3. She has a pretty solid statline on the flip and clears out blockers.
silly-posting hours already?
>>98866983always
>want to build a simic qt azn commander >best candidate is Eshki>her card is boring Pain
>>98866598is this a fitting reskin for Becca
>>98864318Not that art for him I won't. Maybe if his base art is ok
>>988661867 would be the easiest. It's just equipment and combat. Simple and direct. 6 is very good at can be really fucking easy to either go infinite or be annoying as hell depending on how you build it. 10 is good, but it's a lot of counter management and proliferating. That could be a lot to deal with starting out when every other card demands you whip out another dice and add up counters. If you already have it give the 7 precon a try.
>>98867011it is if you believe
Will this work how im thinking?
>>98866384It'll probably do it's thing ok against most casual decks. Forced sacrificing is pretty hard for them to get around and Kraven naturally helps keep your card drawn going. I liked the first decks inclusion of Ardyn but I can see why he was one of the many cards you cut. Not how I'd do Kraven, but I think it'll do what you want it to do. Have you gotten a chance to play it yet?
>>98867072what 99 land card deck is good with q?
>>98867078nigga answer the question
>>98867076just tested the new version in 10+ games against bots, biggest problems in testing are I have to discard down to 7 every turn and often have nothing to play if I've killed the board too much
>>98866323not having the card doesn't preclude other players from seeing you playing half the combo in the cz and responding accordinglyalso bg lifegain has been super pushed in the last year
The only potential UB I would unironically paypig and basedface for already has its own TCG that 5 people play so I am safe.
>>98867072No. The enchantment's trigger won't resolve until Q has resolved
>>98867088>I have to discard down to 7Then put in some unlimited hand size shit. Spellbook, reliquary tower, thought vessel, decanter of endless water etc.
>>98866818Everyone loves lotr and star trek and you still hear endless complainingThat sign is retarded
>>98866976Just fyi brackets are less about powerlevel and more about deck philosophy They try to cap the turn you can win on sure, but that's such a blunt tool that it's hardly useful
>>98867218Weiss Schwarz?
>>98867351Gundam TCG (Bandai will kill it in 5 years and try again in 7)
>>98867374I thought that shit was POPPING
>>98866818Nope, if i want 40k, final fantasy or d&d i play those games.
>>98867374>Launched out of a ship in 0 gravity>Further boosts with suit>Comes to a complete stop to pose and shoot without another counter forceImmersion ruined.
Guys? My store still has Reality Fracture on the shelves. I don't think it's doing very well...
>>98867426In Asia maybe but in my neck of the woods it has 1 night at 1 LGS.Its also a Bandai game and at least the third Gundam tcg so zero chance it has longevity.>>98867598What should really concern you is that they launched Guntank in to space for a photo op. It is a purely grounded suit with no flight capabilities lol, shits just drifting
>be opponent>cast wrath of god>any reactions?>no>then, while holding priority, cast ghostwaythis is the average player of my lgs.
>>98867681That's how the chain works in YGO and it's better but unfortunately not MtG.
>>98867681Don't you have to ghostway first since prio starts with you then moves around?
>>98867649mine's been all out both weeks I visited. also wanted a card from the store binder and went home to get my trades only to find out someone had come and traded for it in the half an hour I was away in the middle of the week when everyone is at work
>>98867711yes but the average tard thinks priority is a magical word.
>>98867711Some people think it's "fair" to ask (bait) out responses before they play anything else.
>>98867681>Then, while holding priority...That's not how it works. Call a judge on that retard.
>>98867649they actually printed the correct amount >>98866983I had just finished converting my TOSKI mono green deck to green/white KWIA. missing several ideal cards but temporarily replaced some life gain trigger cards with landfall cards (like Heliod Sun Crowned for +1/+1 counters with Bjorn's Hospitalityironically I didnt realize there was an infinite with Walking Ballisa + Heliod and Ballista was randomly in the Toski deck because it had a bunch of the green cards from the FFX Tidus deck. Took that out though, need more room for SOUL SISTERS. still need to pick up a Stepsister of Runes though. (Step being much better because colorless can stop annoying Maze of Ith locks if you don't draw removal) >>98866186they need to include a full pack of cheesex die die for the FFX deck. but the cards are awesome I bought that deck in the spring for $60 and its actively used in 3 different decks. a lot of the +1 counter stuff is in this green/white deck now. the Cloud and Tifa one this one zoomer who plays with our revolving pod sometimes had a dominant win with the ff7 deck last weekend. He switched Tifa instead of Cloud as the general but added this silly MF'er from FFV (based representation that was sorely lacking from FFV) Gilgamesh. had a dominant, EXPLOSIVE win with this (pic rel). so definitely add this if you get the red green white ff7 deck. >>98866254one of the LGS' near me is giving out free packs of Avatar every $25 of singles you buy from them. I've gotten 2 free ones recently. sucky set>>98866429Daaaaack! is CEDH sloppa. path your own shit like a good slopper
>>98867691Chain blocking is bullshit, No it's not better
>>98867796Chain blocking wouldn't work with how MtG cards are worded. The only difference is your opponents respond before you can add to the chain.
>>98867830I assumed we were porting over the entire spirit of the system
>>98867839YGO had metas where chain blocking was functionally irrelevant it just depends on the cards being used.
What's some blue/black goodstuff for a Royal Kidnapper deck if I'm *not* going all in on stealing as many of my opponents creatures as possible, but just want to make a deck thats disruptive and annoying at a 4 person table? Winning is nice if it happens, but the real goal is to just make shit happen that screws with other people's plans in interesting ways.
how is this only a 75¢ card still? the discard cost is hardly a problem in commander. its a convenient way to get Anger or similar into the yard. plus you get a blocker on the board. Idyllic tutor (another non GC tutor) is 15 bucks comparatively. Enlightened Tutor is understand being able to get artifacts at instant speed..even Steelshapers Gift at $10 for equipment for W. but this is not even a dollar>find RIP>find sylvan library>find black market connex>find imprisoned in the moon>find propaganda>find seal of cleansing>find doubling season>find enchantment creatures
>>98868096all reality fracture prices over-crashed and will creep back up. i should scoop up a full playset
>>98867681you have to be, I don't know how to call it, "logic brained" to understand mtg. Not all people are like that
>>98867681maybe you should ask if they pass priority
>>98868126should I HODL on my Theorist Jace? He seems like he'll become an EDH staple for whatever blue splash there is
>>98867218That being a Bandaid card game would make me nervous in the long run.
>>98867796Chain blocking isn't even an issue. It's a chain managing skill check. Missed timings are and always will be more insufferable. Even if they're much more rare now a days.
>>98868258>Much moreMissing the timing has been irrelevant for so long they could probably just remove it and nothing would change.
>>98868209nope that one is overpriced, sell now.
>>98868096it's an unc that sees next to no play in other formats
>>98868209He's """"discount""" rhystic. He's good, but he's not going to be format warping.Hell start to fall off just like gleaming splendor did
>>98867662Maybe its a distribution problem but my LGS can't keep it stocked
>>98866877>the other colors don't really seem to have that sort of thing in their wheelhouse.It's definitely a White thing though. Making everything it's self was the whole mono white evil phyrexia thing.
So uh, how you guys doing
>>98868126interesting. I noticed that actually. one of the LGS I play at I stopped in and they now stocking RF cards in the trade binder (theres always like a 2+ week delay until prices "settle") and the foil alt art Kwia is only like 2 or 3 bucks more than the foil standard one I bought the week before. definitely some good stuff to scoop up while you can!>>98868293I mean commander is the only relevant format in magic right now. but this judge was looking for Dark Matter Manipulator for a legacy deck>>98868283>>98868328knew I pulled a Jace at pre-release>look in binder>its the 75¢ onewtf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111>>98868496>pic relalthough I think now with Rosewater at the helm doing his damnest to do the least interesting things possible and take zero risks, this would be probably "outside muh color pie" even though Dick Garfield (PHD) designed all these cards to be great mechanically and flavor-ly
>>98866877It's also just kind of boring as far as design goes. The only really notable thing to come out of them is the Urborg+Coffers combo that retards keep jamming into 3c decks with no searchers for some reason.
>>98868662Not badCan complain
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Have you guys played 2 colors without fetchalnds? Is it like night and day?
>>98867790>this silly MF'er from FFVIf your buddy is a zoomer, it's likely he added Gilgamesh because he's a bonus boss in Rebirth.Anyway, I'll look into that. I bought a booster box of the set last year as well, so I'll sift through and see what I had there. Only big rares I recall are a Bahamut and Sephiroth.
