Not broken links edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>98847213 >Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/KAQe7n7f>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:How does your faction react to a horde of menlets telling you the ruins live on were promised to them by Grungi?
>>98857348>molten wax drips down to the eyeholes
>>98857348>TQI hope they like that we used their home as an outhouse.
>>98857469They're used to fixing CoS plumbing, that's nothing
>>98857348>no beard Yikes
>>98857348This makes me sad that there aren't any dwarf STLs in the aesthetic of cities
>>98857348This is an absolutely kino design, should have gotten these instead of cl*ngunners>>98857500Behind the plates dum dum
>>98857500>hair growing on top of the armor
>>98857348This is the thread.>>98857518Pretty sure this is an attempt at a Cities dwarf rather than a clangunner replacement, but I agree it looks better regardless.
>>98857348My kruleboyz usually raid others to bait them into attacking their base and drowning in tar swamps so army that comes by itself, is short and heavy is like a Grotmas present
>>98857348>Khazalids are the LITTLE SatanLol
>>98857348I'd prefer cities getting halflings and gnomes instead of getting dwarfs.
>>98857601If you take the gate gargant as the baseline than ogors are halflings and humans gnomes
Oh yeah in case you guys missed it from the previous thread it seems celly prime is getting a new model at some point.Really assumed he'd be a goner next edition desu. Never seen anybody care about him despite essentially being the stormie primarch equivalent.
>>98857616Why would you even consider such a retarded take?
>Still missing Realmgate Wars campaign books to complete my physical 1st edition collectionDamn, I can only find Italian ones for some reason. I'm very happy about finding two complete sets of Gran Alliance books for cheap though. I have to find a decent shop to cut one set for me and make high-res scans.
>>98857621His head will be cut off and he'll replace it with the Hammer. Ghal Maraz is now fully in charge of the body
>>98857621>Released 11 years ago as a centrepiece for the posterboy faction and THE icon of the brand new setting and game>GW did literally nothing with himWhat the fuck were they thinking when they came up with Celestant-Prime? What was the point of introducing a big-ass flashy model for the most powerful character of the protagonist faction if no follow-up was prepared at all? I'm actually surprised he was not killed offstage during the 3-4e transition period.
>>98857664It's so funny how with every new release GW shows they peaked with Paladins back then. Easily the best SCE sculpts, incredibly iconic. They nailed everything with them - scale, proportions, bling, modularity. Pure kino.
>cant find faction terrain>cant find manifestations>dont own a 3d printer and those who can ask almost more than the original modelsforced to play suboptimally
>>98857673Always overshadowed by vandus honestly
>>98857700I hate Endless Spells and Faction Terrain like you wouldn't believe. Introduction of ES is the only thing I don't like about the 2nd edition.
>>98857714I think that ES are a cool mechanic but faction terrain is half-baked at best. It's just a unit with no movement and an ability. Are you telling me that orruks want in ambush but they still build a fucking tower? Some of them should only be available for the defender, maybe even on the objective wholly within their field. Summoned FT gets a pass
>>98857673>What the fuck were they thinking when they came up with Celestant-Prime?>chaos has archaon>death has nagash>(nobody cares about destruction)>order has... it should have sigmar but we don't want to blow our cards too early so we can't have sigmar, so we need a guy>it has to be a stormcast>it has to wield ghal maraz>the model must be huge>but we don't want to fall again for the scale creep of primarchs>and also it can't be on a mount because we want to sell multiple copies of the kit for stormcasts on dragons>so it must have wings and swirly magic to bloat up the price >the specifics of the design don't matter>use the stock standard look but cover it in whatever
>>98857683Shit taste, their proportions are trash, they're not suddenly incredible just because they were barely better than normal fatcasts.
>bael-grimnir is dead
>>98857851Now his yass kween daughter can take over.Or would have but they'll be fully squatted in another edition.
>>98857858she's now the queen of the vostarg, who have formally joined the khazalites, but not all magmaholds have fallenit's only a matter of time until she gets a model
>>98857851He died like 2 editions ago
>>98857918No, he didn't, he died for real only now.
>>98857851Proof?>>98857858Always was the plan. Bael was to become the Fyreslayers white dwarf figure so his throne would be empty
>>98857920Bro's got like a hundred runesons way ahead of her.
>>98857928Sorry, current year says we gotta have strong female characters take over now.
>>98857928Nope, she was picked since birth nigger read
>>98857851Fyreslayers randomly always had some of the best art>>98857873Why the fuck did they make up some random literally who instead of just giving her a model anyway?
>>98857945>randomlyKevin Chin did most of the dwarf art. KO is kino too
How can we save BoK (aesthetically)?
>>98857940>modern GW is trying to force female characters with awful writing.You don't say.
>>98857828>but we don't want to fall again for the scale creep of primarchs40k Girlymon was released in 2017. No one cares about HH powercreep.
>>98857958>7 years ago and I wake up every day crying they ruined total war bros they killed warhammer for this
>>98857945>Why the fuck did they make up some random literally who instead of just giving her a model anyway?Because the dwarf girl special character is just a female mirror to the generic dwarf king mini, which got given special character treatment to justify its existence better instead of having 2 minis for the same profile; and the random fyreslsayer hero is the pity hero they would have gotten this time around.Meanwhile the magmaqueen of the main fyreslayer subfaction would deserve a fuckhueg model, and this is not the time for that kind of releases.
>>98857968you think nobody cares or cared because you're out of touch
>>98857957Aztec shit
>>98857970Yeah man she's been mentioned since the inception of AoS. This was totally not a shift that happened around 2e
>>98857987
>>98857981They're not doing two mesoamerican armies and they're clearly not abandoning that aesthetic for seraphon. It's a shame, since they're leaning away from the importance of living sacrifices on ziggurats in Seraphon, and it's a very khornate theme. Realistically though the battle line just needs to be redone with modern aesthetics. They've got the old marauder/kairics "action figure" poses and muscles.
>>98857673He let himself get stomped by lady olynder. that accounts for something.
>>98857980HH was a niche in a niche hobby back then, it only exploded with the release of the 2nd edition starer set. It should have stayed that way, I miss Black Books.
>>98857957basically squat everything and rebuild around the look of the chaos lord on juggernaut
>>98857987She appeared in the 2019 June issue
>>98858038confirming what anon said
>>98858024Khorne should double down on daemon tech and get picrel + a new soul grinder
>>98857993Eh whatever the fuck you would call picrel. Seraphon can have hard mesoamerican aesthetic, khorne can have the tribal stuff maybe fused with some other ones. Indiana jones temple of doom esque
>>988580442019 is 7 years ago and her introduction ushered in a recognised change so the four years before that is irrelevant
>>98858051aos has only been around for ten years so all of first edition is important you can't just retcon that when it's 1/4 of THE WHOLE SETTING
>>98858055We've had female Fyreslayers and Rune Queens for longer than we haven't.
>>98858024What a retarded take that only pushed them further into the issue of being undivided, but red
>>98857987her first story is of her birth in 2e so it'd be weird to have her in 1e retard
>>98858051>so the four years before that is irrelevantno, it's not, that doesn't follow but if you really want to take this road and say that the existence of the runedaughter matters more because she existed longer than bael existed without her then I want to see you be critical of morga because glittermaw existed without her for a way larger portion of aosof course you won't do that because you're not just retarded, you're first and foremost disingenuous in your arguments
>>98858060>undivided, but red...that's what they are
>>98858045We've diverged from the timeline in which GW dialed up the cross compatibility a long time ago.
>>98858072>only pushed them further into the issueHow did you fail to read 1 sentance in full?
>>98858069I am, though. Morga came out of nowhere and that'd be fine if she was a 2nd in command of that even if Glittermaw was overthrown he got a model as a rebel maneater warlord or something. Braggoth is what I'm most mad about. Anyway, Bael should be some white dwarf style figure. He went MIA to god knows where in Chamon while his warband died in Aqshy.
>>98858084You're the one who can't read for shit.There's no issue: they were always meant to be chaos but red.
>>98858086>Anyway, Bael should be some white dwarf style figure. He went MIA to god knows where in Chamon while his warband died in Aqshy.No, he died during the siege of vostargi mons by rats and chorfs.
>>98858095Says who? He was last seen being empowered by Chamon
>>98858086> Morga came out of nowhereshe's based off of a real life mongol warrior queen. its not out of nowhere, its very fitting within the spirit of the army
>>98858097The new khazalite book.
>>98858075They're stonearms thank you very much.
>>98858095>>98858115i would have less issues with baels deaths if they actually gave a model to the new fyrequeen who's the central figure for brokering the alliance between khazalites and fyreslayers. its very strange that she's so central to the new battletomes lore, but absent in the model range.they really should have put the effort in to give fyreslayers a few new units. a new big named character and some kind of medium unit like cavalry or magma elementals or something. or just make that new character with the droth into a squad instead with a packmaster and 3 juvenile droths. just like what they did for ogres. they squatted a ton of shit, but then they also released a bunch more including several new units for BOTH beastclaw and gutbusters, each having their own big fuckoff new named characters on pieplate bases. thats how you do a full refresh without leaving your player base feeling like half of it is twisting in the wind.
>>98858131>each having their own big fuckoff new named characters on pieplate basesglutthorn ain't a beastclaw thing
>>98858138its beastclaw in every sense except the keyword. big ogre rides big megafauna creature with a saddle made of hides, horns and tusks.
>>98858078RETVRN
>>98858143>except the keywordand the fluffand the floof
Fyreslayers are going to stay irrelevant until Gotrek stops being a pussy and mantles Grimnir
>>98858150He’s not being a pussy he’s being a retard, slight difference
>>98858150I don't think writers want gotrek to become a bigger character than he is right nowmake him actually the leader of the faction and then he can't be a wandering dude going on random adventuresmake him grimnir reborn and even if he went on random adventures and ignored the fyreslayers he would still get followed by hordes of them in worship, so he still wouldn't be able to do what his character is meant to be doing
>>98858150>>98858161>Gotrek tells Grimnir fuck you again>Rips the Ur-Rune out his chest and puts it into Bael-Grimnir’s dead body
>>98858173>
>>98858163To be fair Grimnir’s whole thing was being an angry murderhobo, I don’t think him mantling him would burn away Gotrek’s desire to roam, get drunk, and kill anything that bothers him. Might actually make him worse if that’s possible lmaoo
https://gofile.io/d/UVcCYDUP
>>98858150Grimnir is very much still alive he just fused with Vulcatrix after they murderfucked each other. Gotrek would be the champion of GodzillaDwarf rather than Grimnir reborn
>>98858190>GodzillaHis frills do be Mohawkin
>>98858184
>>98858184To the moon it goes
>>98858184Does AoS have any good animation? With 40k it's really hit or miss and the only hits they have are because of the sheer amount of media they get. I assume it's even harder for AoS to have any high quality media.
>>98858115That you haven't read
>>98858175Why do Chorfs turn to stone if Duardin can be wizards?
>>98858303
>>98858316They do say man must carve his own stone.
>>98858316sounds like the stone thing is specifically to do with power gained from hashut.but the question i think remains why can the khazalites cast at all if wizardy is somethings dwarfs normally cannot do without the aid of a god? i guess its possible that the gods are enabling the khazalites spellcasting to work and since they arent corrupt chaos gods their support doesnt come at a faustian bargain, but i didnt see a mention of that in the runes. the runewrites lore blurb sounds like they learn arcane magic the same as any other wizard, through study and practice. but the kharadrons cant use magic unless they bottle it in a contraption that uses it for them. its just a very strange discontinuity of their own lores logic for what seems to be the sake of ease of gameplay design so they dont have to make runes their own thing, and can just use the existing magic system instead. a lore breaking cop out for design lazyness
>>98858316So how do regular Duardin do magic without a Faustian Bargain?
>>98858347Runes.
>>98858336I think it’s as simple as it being a game mechanic thing. It’s magic as any other army would use on the table, but in lore it’s the stuff with runes. WHFB dwarves also did shit with runes that was magical.
>>98858347Runes are legally distinct from magic.
Was there no rumour engine today?
>>98858378>Wizard (1)
>>98858388There hasn’t been a single article today.
>>98858403>Legally distinct wizard (1)
Is vermin slayer a fun read
>>98858420Ehhhh...it has a few good bits, but not really. Gotrek's new one off female companion is a drag, as usual.
>>98858316Speaking of this, can humans still learn multiple lores in AoS last I checked that was a thing idk if it got retconned after 2nd
>>98858184You got last week's Scribes & Scriveners? I finished reading Blood of the Everchosen the other day and saw there was an interview about it.
rumour engine
>>98858435I don't know if it's come up. In terms of the crunch, that's a no.
>>98858213>>98858184lol>>98857469Is there more of this?
>>98858435I think you can still do it in Soulbound it’d honestly suck if they took that away but gotta make Aos more grimdark and dirty I guess
>>98858472Is Soulbound still being developed or are they done with it
>>98858490There hasn't been a release in a long time and i don't think C7 talked about at Gencon so it might be dead but they were hiring writers for it earlier in the year
>>98857683>new libs are still push-shitLmao
>>98858490>>98858504I'd consider it a complete game. There are tools for doing more or less all the things you might want to do in a classical roleplaying game. I'd like some more of the basic logistical things they've provided for WFRP (patron compendiums, short modules and compilations of one-shot adventures, location sourcebooks), but most games don't get that level of support in the first place. Between the core book, the bestiary, and maybe one of the "Champions of" books, you could get a lot of mileage. Then there is tons of extra crunch to digest in Artefacts of Power, Steam and Steel, Through Fire and Smoke, etc.
Are mutton chops really kosher? I dunno that's still a lot of beard chopping.
>>98858603do people genuinely think these female models look good?
>>98858446I don't really get what they're doing it with. Like what's the point of the rumour engine?
>>98858609No.
What's /aosg/'s opinion of the Alchemite Warforger, Aqshian Pyrocaster and Amethyst Knellmage? Any ideas/theories for potential future CoS battlemages for the remaining magic lores?>>98858490>>98858504>>98858575IMO the Soulbound devs might just be holding back until AoS 5e to drop a potential Soulbound 2e. They're very likely wary of getting a repeat of the rushed unpolished mess that was the initial release of the Champions of Chaos supplement book (editing mistakes, most archetypes unplayable RAW, abysmal playtesting and proofreading, etc) and all the backlash they got for it.
>>98858611What's the point of your shitty post? No one asked
>>98858641The point is my fat cock in your mom's ass
>>98858609I think it's universally agreed upon that basically all the female dwarf models GW has done look like shit. The only exceptions being that new Khazalite character. Beyond that, you have that one infernal razers champion with the head that actually looks like a female, and maybe one head from a KO kit. Oh, and some might argue that one of the models from that on FS warcry kit.
>>98858048The temple of Doom was in India, I believe, where they do also do human sacrifice to a vengeance goddess
This might be useful for CoS.
Weren’t our Christmas boxes supposed to be revealed?
>>98858690they never said tomorrow and announcements of shit, including combo boxes, is in vast majority on mon/wed/fri days
>On a scavenger hunt for some 1st and 2nd edition books>Buy a random Bonesplitterz battletome as well, don't want it because it's a softback version but the seller gives it away pretty much for free>Get tired with assembling Sylvaneth for my wife, she makes me coffee so I grab that battletome and go to garden to take a break from huffing plastic glue>Flashbacks of reading a pirated PDF of Bonesplitterz battletome ten years ago hit me like a fucking trainSo much soul, Jesus hold me. There was something truly special about those bottom-up armies that inherited WFB model ranges and had to be re-fluffed to fit AoS somehow. BCR, FEC, Bonesplitterz - all three had incredibly fun battletomes in the 1st edition and it's such a shame to see the last ones not making a cut. I always liked them but never bought a full army because painting a horde was way beyond my skills and patience. It's a shame they never got a farewell bundle to clear the stock.
>>98858705Love a bit of nostalgia, it's cool we've been around long enough to appreciate the 1e stuff a bit, but I imagine painting a horde is not somewhere that skill issue is relevant
>>98858721>I imagine painting a horde is not somewhere that skill issue is relevantI believe discipline to be a skill that can be learnt and honed overtime and I definitely lack this one.
>>98858675Yeah hence the mixed with other stuff for kind of a unified tribal aesthetic. Some pseudo-aztec, pseudo-indian, pseudo-native, pseudo-viking mix. New nurgle for examples combines pagan/folk horror tropes with chivalric stuff, so maybe a mix like that would be interesting for khorne too.The real question is what the fuck we do with tzeentch...
>>98858303normal dwarfs don't do normal magic
>>98858687Why do you think that?
>>98858743He just really wanted to market for James.
>>98858743Because it's one of the few AoS model ranges designed to use transfers.
>>98858435Lores aren't realy a thing in genetal
>>98858446chinamen coin?
>>98858802I don't think Cathay is getting anything anytime soon, so it's probably for Tau
>>98858802Wouldn’t be surprised. We desperately need a 5th Cathay wave in OW.
>>98858802>>98858813>>98858820Wasn't !Nippon or AoS-Cathay mentioned in the TLW leaks? Some rumour engines took over 2-3 years to be solved.
>>98858827kinda but only as lore blurbs in the upcoming core rulebook; they wouldn't get any models
>>98858802More cathay would be insanely hilarious but probably tau thenI think some of the previous ones were mentioned to be for a new tau commander by one of the leakers>>98858827Apparently those weren't supposed to be actual factions but rather background lore. I think they were compared to silent people in that sense
>>98858687This kinda looks gay
>>98858446That's Cathay
>>98858915Cathay tax for all new TOW characters.
>>98858446More Seraphon stuff???Are we only getting the special character?Extremely GAY if true
>>98858740khazalite Duardin have wizards and spells
>>98858609Not a single person alive thinks that.>>98858675Of course they do.
>>98858935yeah, but they aren't normal wizards and normal spells, fluffwise
>>98858935Yeah but they use runes not the traditional winds
>>98858855>>98858813Why would it be Tau? Do they use currency like that?
>>98858855Doesn’t look like Tau aesthetics we’ve seen before. Probably Cathay because GW refuses to simple updates for armies like “Give WElfs a generic character kit that’s not in metal” for something reason.
Crosspostin', but I'm sure the artist who does these is a poster or a lurker, just want to say you're really feeding us with your regular work and autism for the setting. I would say this on twitter, but grok suspended me and I'm too lazy to make a new account.
>>98858951i guessed Tau since there's rumoured to be getting a lot of models soonish(early next year) and most recent rumour engines do not stick around for a long time with some exceptions
>>98858603i just dont know why you would ever buy this kit when the warhammer fantasy dwarfs are still for sale
>>98851186Part of it is GW trying to respond to people being like "AOS isn't grimdark enough! The stormcast don't have enough flaws and are able to respawn!" so they wanted to add some more overt nasty stuff to it, because I guess the literal metaphor of the dehumanisation of war wasn't enough. GW listening to feedback for AOS has generally been a bad thing after 2nd edition I think
>>98859093There's nothing there that even says Sigmar is morally grey. He's absolutely good. Just because he's not all powerful & all knowing doesn't mean he isn't a good guy.
>>98859031okay so its probably not tau....buuuuuuuut...the oooold tau ethereal models did used to have a motif of hexagon shaped jewelry. its a bit of a stretch, but if you wanted to draw the connection, there it is
Been awhile of working on this lad, kinda been slacking and working on assembling other shit. BUT more progress on my Mancrusher! (the feather bit fell out and got eaten by my vacuum so I took some feathers from a pillow for his cap)Some more cleanup and a bit more detailing and face work and I'd say he's nearly done!
>>98859114Absolutely. It's just GW is bad at understanding that there are a lot of people who will literally never like AOS no matter what they do
>>98859088post the standard warriors, not the elite unit. Also wow the helmets do have some similarities now that I look at em. The just have trim. Anyways both look like shit and are inferior to khadrons.
>>98859174True.
>>98858930We're supposed to also get the coatl
>>98859178>both look like shitwhatever you gotta say to sound cool on 4chan i guess
>>98859088I'm old enough to remember when people hated these guys as a bastardisation of the old dwarf aesthetic.
>>98857348>How does your faction react to a horde of menlets telling you the ruins live on were promised to them by Grungi?Lummies are from a realm of light, I think they should have more "blinding" themed spells for situations like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJLptYl3sw8
>>98859178>post the standard warriors, not the elite unit.Why? Those can stand in for clanshields just as well.
>>98859285You’re retarded
Greater Khazrael was promised to the Duardin by Grungni over 2000 years ago. You don’t want to be anti-manletic do you?
>>98859369I accept your concession.
Oh god the box showed up, he wasn't lying. That's like 150 witch aelves.
>>98859088Not enough women.
>>98859237The more things change…
>>98858626desu if i was c7 (or any 3rd party actor looking to utilize the ip for that matter) i wouldnt even bother with aos anymore seeing how retarded the aos team have become huffing all that plastic fume as they keep doing 180s and changing how the setting and its factions and shit work
>>98859446I think that if C7 wants to keep WHFRP they are stuck doing AoS stuff.
>>98859401You’re gonna learn to paint skin, son.
>>98859446>they keep doing 180s and changing how the setting and its factions and shit workWho would have guess that retarded decisions from 11 years ago will bite them in their ass.
Does she belong in sylvaneths or maggotkins camp
>>98859446It’s hard to write for AoS now that we’re just stuck with Primar… I mean God-shit for every event.
>>98859514Maggotkin.
>>98859473I'm gonna have to fix a shit ton of swords and rebase these fuckers. Half of them are on wood discs with washers..
>>98859517Its hard to write for aos when the thing you wrote in was completely changed into something else few years in or squatted from the existence all of a sudden
>>98859474Almost no old decisions have bit them in the ass. It's all new 180s and U-turns
So, what's the Fyreslayer guy with a teenage Magmadroth deal? What is he about?
>>98859514She's literally cursed with rot by the god of rot. She's on team Nurgle 100%.
>>98859598he saved a baby droth that was being tortured by some hobgrots and now its his friend.that is unironically his whole story.
>>98859514Does she apply a debuff called "rot"? Is "Rotbringer" a term you associate with sylv? What do you think, anon, what army?
>>98859598just a man (dwarf) and his dog (lizard) going on adventureshe was a wild droth hunter of some kind, happened on this juvenile as it was getting attacked by demons or something, saved it and now they're best friends
>>98859598>The nomadic beastmaster Ormyr has wandered the harsh deserts of Aqshy for decades. He rescued his Kyndledroth Ashtongue from the grubby clutches of a band of hobgrots and their Hashutite overseers. Though his plan had been to trade the beast with the Lofnir of his former lodge, impressed with her willingness to survive, he took Ashtongue as his companion instead.>Hours spent alone under the burning sun have baked both Ormyr's skin and his mind. It is said that whilst staring into the forge-flame of his magmahold, he saw a vision of Grimnir. He claims that the Ancestor God has sent him to find a sacred flame of the vulkazharr buried in the heart of a Magmadroth called Cinderhorn. Whether this is true or some figment of Ormyr's addled senses is unknown, but he can often be heard conversing with Grimnir as he searches for the creature.>Ormyr's preferred Grimmdron are the Flameseekers. He can often be found fighting in their company and sharing a tankard of magmalt with them at battle's end. In the wake of the fall, Ormyr often ventures into the ruins of sundered magmaholds, either on his own or as a scout for his kin. Many a Runeson or Thrynn has had cause to celebrate his presence in their fyrd or war throng. Once down in the sweltering darkness, he searches for his fabled droth or, failing that, metes out vengeance against infestations of the vermin who brought the Fyreslayers low.
I wanted to be safe, so I ordered a gross of elves.
This is nice.
>>98859706still weird they haven't done a court jester yet
>>98859652>vulkazharr>zharrhgrim>grimmdron>zharrdronwe're missing>vulkadron>vulkagrim
>>98859652>impressed with her willingness to survive,another sneaky female dwarf character, bros!
>>98859756It's ok when it's dragons because I actually find them sexy and want to fuck themthe problem with krondys is that he's male
>>98859706is that the most popular model for painters? seems like everyone has a diorama for this guy
>>98859652kino fluff but fuck me his model is shit eve fixing the feet which would be a pain might not be enough for that goofy ass gesture
>>98859514The lamest one as befitting of such a lame character
how big of an issue are square bases in this game? i want to give the game a shot but i dont want to tear up my bases on my old army
>>98859809Wasn’t as much of an issue in older editions, it can be a little complicated with 4th edition, but as long as you aren’t in a tourney setting it’s probably fine.
>>98859809It would probably be a bit clunky but not entirely unworkable.Only issues would arise from centerpieces. (130mm - 160mm round)
>>98859514I'd have sex with her so she can't be Nurgle.
>>98859674Elf by the kilo
>>98859778He has been golden demon bait (affectionate) since release
What was the pity hero for nurgle this edition
>>98859960This is about as close as you can get.
>>98859968Damn what a beautiful model. Would be a shame if someone were to squat it.
>>98859975good thing its not.
>>98859981I'm dumb, I thought it was one of the BoC underworlds models.Warhammer Quest always falls in the "yeah it's cool but do I REALLY want it" range for me.
I broke and bought whole buncha Fyreslayers. I am going to have so many squatted vulkite berzerkers.
>>98859988You can buy this guy separately ...though he is stuck to the two other heroes
Why did no one tell me our Symmetrical Slayer had a successor?
>>98860015It's not anywhere as bad, just two of the same weapon in each hand.
I fucking love goblins
>>98860023I never said either was bad.
>>98860035he cute but please clean up those pubes
>>98860036The slayer was pretty bad in symmetry for non-shield version though.
>spearhead is garbage with named character>army set, previous spearhead, battleforce were all fantastic for building an army. Man do I pity new CoS players.
>>98860015>moustache mimicking boar tusksKino of the highest order
>>98860037Guess you could call him a crotch goblin.
>>98860035They're alright
>>98859778Prime golden demon material, lots of top painters like to show off with itThe quadruple vampire warband was the same
>>98860085I'm honestly not a fan of the mini and didn't predict how popular it would be for painting but that's just a skill issue I suppose
Age of Sigmar
>>98860102Eh its biggest issue is not looking so good from other angles on the table but that matters less for hobby-first people and not at all for painting competitions
>>98860158At least Vince fixed it.
>>98860165We owe him so much
>>98858303>>98858336>>98858347>>98858360>>98858378It still seems to me that regular Dwarves should be able to cast regular magic, but maybe something about their biology ‘blunts’ them to it? Kind of like how they’re more naturally resistant to Chaos corruption than humans.
>>98859674Holy shit anon
>my ghouls are from Chamon
>>98858184Interesting enough. They've gotten decently better at animation but they REALLY need to stop the "cut to camera from a distance then zoom in onto the subject to focus" cuts. It's their favorite thing to do on all these animations. Love the gags at the end of the credits every time.Thanks, anon.
>>98860503kid gotta have the weirdest boner, I know I would
Whoa, that was weird
>>98860698>weirdest boner
Hopefully this will calm down some of the sperg jitters we’ve had recently.
RISE
>>98860855
>>98860847wishful thinking but I hope so too
alright i watched 2+ toughs lore breakdown on the new dwarfs, an interesting bit of loreapparently the khazalites have been hiding out in shyish, the realm of death this whole time. when the world went to shit, KO took off into the sky, fyreslayers went into the volcanos, helsmitths made their bargain witth hashut, and the khazalids followed their death god ghazul as he opened portals all over the realms in their holds leading to the dwarven afterlife which exists in a pocket in shyish. there, the dwarfs bunkered up and reinforced dwarven heaven with runes of protection and warding, which lasted throughout all of the age of chaos and the age of sigmar until the skavendoom, at which point the skaven began finding a way to tunnel in past the wards. now the dwarfs realizing their safe haven is no longer safe have begun re-entering the world to retake their old keeps, as they had been using those centuries in ghazuls realm to rebuild their armies and fashion golem tech. also apparently spending that long in shyish has made them very dour and solemn, even for dwarfs, and they are somewhat unnnerving to talk to
>>98860908Shyish continues to be the most interesting realm
>>98860865Capes probably could have helped
What's an army to match the general aesthetic of the witch king? I'm not seeing many dudes in the Daughters of Khaine
>>98860908I could have told you that.
>>98860918also possibly points to shyish being the target for the next campaign or edititon focuslast time a new army emerged from a realm (Kruleboyz/kragnos from ghur) we spent a whole edition there
>>98860932Why did you assume LotR ghost knight would be related to monster amazones army?
>>98860932Probably night haunt
>>98860944Cuz Malekith was also a witch king... Once.
>>98860953Are you referring to Malerion, the Dread-King?
>>98860932are we talking witch king of naggaroth? or witch king of angmar?
>>98860918That’s Ghur but Shyish is up there
Started the third one
>>98860932SBGL if you care more about the armor, NH if you care more about the "clean/non corporeal undead" aesthetic
>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.>We expect to be back shortly.We expect to be back shortly.
>>98861135I mean, we are back.
>>98861135Soon...
I wanna do some death rattles in the scheme of the Charred from Valheim. Probably some cool grays to pale blues, and rust for armor/weapons?
how would you balance summoning and make it not a +2000 points like in 3rd edition
>>98861366Basecoat bright red, drybrush dark blue, layer and highlight up to light gray.
Are Nighthaunt any good? I think the model range is really cool.
>>98861474Ohh yeah that’s better. Thank you
>>98861559Better example by same guy
>>98858626Does anyone have the updated Champions of Chaos pdf laying around in a trove somewhere? I never could find it.
>>98860845god those things are one of my favorite models GW has ever fucking made, that alone makes me wanna buy a shit ton of OBR just to paint
>>98861081I really hope this is in a Christmas Battleforce Box
>>98860965>>98860985Yes
>>98862042it was last year so very unlikely
>>98862042Wasn't it just in a box?
I wonder if the new celestant prime will come with a reveal of his identity
As much as I rag on this site I sure am bored when it's down.
>>98862298Same
>There are 0 new pieces of Fyreslayer art in the entire battletome. The only new 'FS art' are some hearthguard in the background of the battletome cover. There are only 8 pages dedicated to FS lore (most of it not really new), the rest is all Khazalite. Sometimes 'Grimmdron' are mentioned in the KH pages as well. >Vostargi Mont has fallen. A siege from helsmiths plus a surprise attack from eshin at a summit that summoned most Runefathers and Magmaqueens killed most leaders, royalty and priests. Bael-Grimnir of the Vostarg is dead, even though he survived his encounter with Trugg and now had Ur-Gold prosthetic limbs (so we'll never have his model). Every single one of his runesons is also dead now. Bael's daughter, Rhuna-Grimnir, survived (but doesn't get a model) and is now a Magmaqueen of Karak Zharrzon (not its ruler though, only part of a council). Kalmar-Grimnir of the Hermdar is also dead. No mention of Brudja Brightaxe, but likely dead. Only a few hundred FS survived. Khazalites 'saved' them and took them in as refugees. This is all described in 4 paragraphs.>Vostargi Mont is flooded by lava now during Bael's last stand. Its forges are shattered. It's unlikely to ever be reclaimed.>Basically all Magmaholds are said to be destroyed (Quote: 'In truth, a handful of Fyreslayer strongholds remain'). Only the Greyfyrd and the Lofnir remain independent, but it's implied they are under constant siege. I don't really know how suddenly all holds in all realms were destroyed, but GW needed to shoehorn us into the KH tome I guess. There are a ton of Grimhold exiles now because so many holds are destroyed. Apparently, only heavily defended magmaholds under volcanoes are vulnerable, because the Khazalites are not really losing any holds.>Most Fyreslayers now live in Karak Zharrzon as refugees. They don't feel at home, they aim to reclaim their holds (though that is implied to be quite a hopeless venture multiple times).
>>98862375>The Fyreslayers don't have a special afterlife (Stone Sleep). They go to the same afterlife as all other Duardin. I guess even the Helsmiths go there since it's a single afterlife for all Duardin?>Barely any mentions of Vulcatrix in the battletome. Only mentioned as worshipped by the Lofnir/Vulkyn, who are seen as crazy cultists by the khazalites.>Ormyr is an ex-Lofnir FS who raised Ashtongue from an egg, and is looking for one of the Vulkazharr in Cinderhorn, a Magmadroth. He scours the ruins of destroyed Magmaholds. It's implied he could also just be crazy from Aqshy heat.>Gotrek has no FS keywords, but sort of feels a kinship with FS. He dislikes Zhangrom-Thaz and wants his old axe back.>Runesmiters now forge FS runes (not Runemasters anymore) and every FS can detect Ur-Gold.>No mention at all of any of the removed units. Even though Runemasters forged our runes, Grimwraths were our strongest warriors, Doomseekers should be a lot more plentiful now, etc.>Fyreslayers are now 'Grimmdron' and basically only driven by vengeance. They have, except for the Lofnir and Greyfyrd, 'become part of the Khazalite holds'. It's over.
>>98862398>who raised Ashtongue from an eggI was told he found the dog, not an egg
>>98862408Could be he got it wrong. He's only a redditor after all.
>>98860935Anon...plus didn't chorfs come from ghur? There'd be two options
>>98862440>plus didn't chorfs come from ghur?Box art guys are from Aqshy and the 1st "real' lore is from Shyish
>>98862375>>98862398Who wrote this tome lol, did a FS player sleep with his wife or something?
>>98862478This is just their basic squatting MO innit? Look at what happened to BoC and Bonesplitterz in the fluff. They really don't want any loose ends.GW's gonna go on a 1e murder spree and it's going to be brutal.
While crazy expensive, I'm loving the idea of taking a reinforced unit of Golems. 6 of the Stone bois seems scary as Hell and like a great anvil to form your line around
>>98862494Based like 4 people gave a fuck about 1E and no you stockholming yourself after 6 years doesn’t count.
>>988625201e includes stuff like KO, DoK, Sylvaneth and deepkin. You're deluding yourself. And yes I know you're just shitposting.
>>98862520Like 75% of armies in the game were created in 1e
>>98862524You choose the armies with the worst futures funnily enough >KO - souped>DOK - souped>Sylvaneth - sells so stays>Deepkin - a fate worse than BoC, the settings resident Eldar I.E irrelevant. The only time we need to fear is when FEC the actually most based AoS creation is on the firing line
>>98862550I think best case scenario all WFB models will get squatted and then the remnants will get souped. How convenient that DoK just got another 10 man infantry unit(which look like shit)DoK and Deepkin will get souped.Sylvaneth will become Kurnothi, dryads etc gone. Only AoS treedudes stick around and they'll become a subfaction.
>>98862520Tbh the deepkin’s days were numbered the second they broke the explicit NAP to get that flashlight back. Sigmar “let” them do a little soul raids here and there on order as long as the vast majority of them were kept to other people and didn’t go too far. These guys are getting fucked in two editions tops
>>98862565>DoK and Deepkin will get souped.I just threw up a little
>>98862550fec would have a good home in sbgl since at least they would gain dire wolves and fell bats
>>98860965Speaking of Malerion, I really wish that, when GW finally comes around to do something substantial with him and the Ulguan Aelves, they make him be just another cackling villain backstabbing Sigmar and running his faction in a gratuitously evil way. His original reason for being evil in WHFB was resolved in the End Times already, and being Order’s token evil teammate is already Morathi’s thing. I’d really dig Malerion as a shifty and ruthless but ultimately Lawful Neutral guy who aligns with the good guys out of enlightened self-interest, does the behind-the-scenes dirty work the others are too goody-two-shoes to do, and prepares schemes to take them down only as paranoid just-in-case contingencies. If the Pantheon of Order is the Justice League, then let Malerion be its Batman.
>>98862565>wfb models will get squattedDepends entirely on the model I'd say, more will get refreshed rather than squatted.If we look at for example SBGL which still has quite a bit of whfb models I can't imagine the corpse cart or parade floats staying around, but there's no way they ditch the necromancer or foot wight king for example. They'll be refreshed, possibly with a new name like the barrow knights/guard or 'revenant draconith'. >DoK and Deepkin will get soupedDoK will get souped, but not with deepkin. They'll be souped with umbraneth instead. There's a reason they waited for khazalites to soup fyreslayers.Idoneth will probably just keep hanging around in limbo for a while. Essentially the tomb kings of AoS. At least their models look good.>sylvaneth will become kurnothi, dryads etc goneWhy the fuck would they do that? Sylvaneth are one ot the most popular armies, despite an actually relatively modest range. Certainly more popular than wood elves ever were in whfb, so why the fuck would they go back to that aesthetic? Dryads will probably be refreshed in twistweald style. Though I can maybe see them just getting dropped since they already have both revenants as basic infantry.
>>98861841I do have it in my MEGA, but I don't know how do it in a safe way. There has to be good reasons that /tg/'s Share Thread is so paranoid about this stuff, and I don't want to find out what these reasons are.
>>98862681>but there's no way they ditch the necromancer or foot wight king for example.Anon please...
>>98862375>>98862398its so stupid and amateurish. corporate writing at its best.whats the point of this vast setting, when in the end a faction, thats is spread over all the realms, gets wrecked simultaneously in each location?
>>98862550Ushoran sells too well to squat his pet army
>>98862709Learn 2 read anon
>>98862520>Based like 4 people gave a fuck about 1E and no you stockholming yourself after 6 years doesn’t count.GIVE a fuck, to be correct. Believe me or not but these are still being used for gaming. I even work on an army right now specifically with playing 1E in mind. Perhaps I will start porting post-1E armies and units one day.
>>98862780The way Jervis intended.
why is there so much deepkin doomerism they literally arent going to squat that army literally why would they do thatthey genuinely may be more popular than kb or tzeench as far as i see it
>>98862795Unpopular microfaction that only gets pity heroes. Writing's on the wall.
>>98862795They’re simply just retarded.
>>98862795
>>98862816>>98862820>>98862831zero games
>>98862857Owari da, mr Shaerk.
>>98862859He won. GW will fix the setting by squatting everything. Everything will be grimderp mudcore like CoS from now on.
>>98862859I'm a slowpoke. It's only now that I notice the crown rune on the thrynn's hat is the same as that on Brokk's hat.
>>98862868yes of all the developments of the game rules and setting wise, the thing i absolutely hate most is how its trying to be a grimdark setting that new arkanaut animation i think really reflects how we wont ever be able to get out of the grimdankness give us color and fun stories please we are not 40k babies who need to feel validated by their plastic toys game by it being serious and """"""""""""""""""""intellectual"""""""""""""""""""""
>>98862795If they even kept fyreslayers around deepkin aren't going anywhere.They're also not easily souped with another upcoming faction like DoK, they'll be fine. Won't have tons of support, but whatever.>>98862868The whole shaerk saga was so funny. Exposed as a janny in the end
>>98862881man i wish this guy was even remotely playable. they really REALLY need to fire whoever writes their 5 wound foot hero scrolls
>>98862895Deepkin will endure specifically because they are so odd and distinctive. No place for them in old world and no place for them inside another super faction without their themes overtaking major parts of that faction
>>98862919They just have no design concept for foot heroes in AoS whatsoever. In 1st/2E foot heroes were buff pieces, with unique effects and command abilities. They were useless in a fight, but still essential to the armies success3E on completely took away their commander role in exchange for slightly buffing their melee damage and maybe sometimes they can fight first just so there's a reason to roll their attack profile at all. The end result is a million heroes that do shitfuckall because their tepid combat stats still aren't worth anything and they don't do anything else. 4E somehow manages to be even worse than 3E at this, because on top of being useless and overcosted, whatever paltry abilities your foot heroes might have are probably also fucked over by "once per turn, army" and "roll a dice, on a 3+" sandbagging.
>>98862745Exactly what I've been saying, it's just so fucking stupid writing that it removes any reason to even pretend to care about the setting when GW clearly doesn't at all.Bonus points for dropping a teasing campaign story in 3E that left Bael Grimnirs fate uncertain, (and linked it again, in the article with the new KH chronicle of ruin story) only to clarify in a sub-paragraph somewhere later that:>Oh yeah, he actually survived that fight and got cool Ur-Gold replacement limbs out of it, no you can't see it. Also he's dead now, and so are every son he's ever had. His daughter we hyped up 8 years ago, survived though! But she's just some broken bitch who doesn't lead the faction or do anything, yep. Just thought you wanted to know.
>>98862961Having said all that, if GW ever does anything with Fyreslayers down the road, seems pretty likely that it'll be Lofnir/Droth themed, which makes sense.Why Greyfyrd of all the lodges also survived I have no idea, aside from the potential to randomly drop a single edgy named foot character(Bonus points if it's Warhammer Quest exclusive) 6 years from now and never follow it up with anything.
>>98862952I doubt you actually played 2e if you're saying foot heroes were viable before Look Out Sir rule improvements. It was a major issue in 2e. Khorne went from bottom quartile to consistently above average when they made look out sir official
>>98862919>one of the few good looking models in the range isn't even playablegrim(mdron)
>>98862990No they were frequently not viable, and just having a unique command ability, for example didn't mean that their abilities were actually useful.My point is more that they were at least relevant to the conversation and had some kind of niche still. Modern foot heroes literally have no reason to exist.
>>98863010hey!!!! some give a 5+ ward to an infantry unit within range!!! i genuinely hope the rules writers get put down holy shit
>>98863010>>98863014I legitimately do not agree with this complaint. For example, Chaos Sorceror Lord has ALWAYS been one of the few viable foot heroes and the ability has ALWAYS been 5++ for an infantry unit in range. Before, it was a command ability, except the same command couldn't be used more than once in the phase, so there was ALREADY a Once Per Turn (Army) limitation on it. Classic infantry foot heroes like Lord of Blights ALWAYS had the "Command: pick a non-hero version of this mini to fight consecutively".Meanwhile, 2e had huge balance issues. It was fun for like two weeks, but the first season in Ghur where you had to field all those monsters was so punishing to armies that couldn't do it, and only made foot heroes less viable. I know there's an argument that viability =\\= fun or popularity, but in my experience when I played a LOT OF 2E (multiple games a week with different opponents) these 'soulful little foot heroes' were not really present at my local or the larger tournament scene
>>98863041>Chaos Sorceror Lord has ALWAYS been one of the few viable foot heroes>SorcererWe're not talking about spellcasters, little bro.
>>98862678>His original reason for being evil in WHFB was resolved in the End Times alreadyand also taken away with the end of the end times
>>98862550There should only be one book for order, one book for death, one book for destruction, and one book for chaosdark elves go in chaos just like helsmiths
>>98863083>dark elves go in chaos just like helsmithsThey gooned too close to the sun
>>98863083I understand that it's easier for the bean counters to track what's hot when everything is discretely compartmentalized, and I know microfactions and warscroll battalions had boatloads of detractors, but in the process of addressing these things the baby may have been thrown out with the bathwater.
>>98863142Tempest's Eye, my beloved.
>>98862745In CoS battletome apparently every single scourge privateer and darkling left cities across the entire realms, because they were deemed too ruthless. From every. Single. City. To work for Morathi in Ulgu.One hell of a hive mind.
>>98863159> Arika Zenthe, the legendary Fleetmaster of Excelsis? That one darkling sorceress who lived in Hammerhal and helped Callis & Toll with uncovering chaos plots and shit? Every single campaign where they helped build and defend cities in the past?Irrelevant. Get out. "Ok."
>>98863142I will never not cry after Bonesplitterz. They had as much potential as Ogres or FEC. Greenskinz being squatted overnight was the writing on the wall.
>>98862398Years of work trashed in minutes to establish a new status quo. Enjoy your modern AoS!
>>98863083Why the fuck is Krondys separate from Stormcast here?Do you even know what models there are in AoS?
>>98863271I had one empty spaceLizardmen are too distant from the rest of order and would need a missing link to connect them better to stormcastThe voices in my head told me GW will do dragonborn one day
>>988630835th edition is getting GA books at launch actually
>>98863311Big if true.
>3rd novelmy wallet is being raped! quick, before it sells out
>>98862961>Bonus points for dropping a teasing campaign storyYou know, I’m all for shitting on GW but we gotta stop seeing Ur-Gold when it’s clearly fucking gold, they never did that, they don’t even do that anymore. GW is not in the business of autistically diving into some random ass lore blurb they shit out in the process of selling [PRODUCT] anymore. We barely got Thondia and that was technically unrelated to anything going on, I’m not expecting GW to write a campaign or release a model about the slaaneshi lord who’s trying to rape an entire island of Demigods to create a new race, or that random ass demon prince running around chamon turning people into cyborgs. Things can just happen, and half the time most of this shit is literally just kitbash, conversion, or cool bug facts when did we put so much weight into a thing happening? Can cool events not happen without there being an entire storyline and model accompanying? I know what you’re talking about and you have slightly more reason to believe that but we do this all the time with everything. I don’t get it, I’m not even arguing that they shouldn’t do those things just why expect them to and get mad about it
>>98863359>GW is not in the business of autistically diving into some random ass lore blurb they shit out in the process of selling [PRODUCT] anymore.They do that constantly, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>98863365My mistake I’m comparing AoS to fleshed out settings like 40k or WHF and forgot the barebones shit they gave us is gold disregard me
>>98863350I stopped caring when she crossed the rubicon primaris
>>98863061>Lord of Blights mentioned immediately afterMy favorite wizard
>>98863311I WANT ÆLVES OUT OF ORDER REEEEEEE
>>98863350Is this character truly that interesting or popular and selling so well, that they keep ignoring other interesting novel and product ideas in exchange for her millionth new major appearance? Or is this just some GW person's favorite and gets pushed because of it?
>>98863460>Is this character truly that interesting or popular and sellingnoshe happened to be the first female stormcast mini, outside of the underworlds band, so gw's dei branch latched onto her and tried to make her a thing, and failed, and then tried again, and failed, and then tried again with a different character, and also failed, and then tried again with her once again, and you won't believe what happened next, they failed again
>>98863350i hope it finally gives us some answers. Neave has been BELAKOR'D for over 8 years now.>>98863460she gets pushed hard by GW, but she isnt terrible
MTO Tzeentch (no metal horrors)https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/tzzxr1jc/tzeentch-daemons-return-via-made-to-order/
>>98863527>forge world bird>oldhammer bird>no metal bird or kairoshow does the decision making work up there?
>>98863495It's easy to forget how many random slop novels they've shat out
>>98863460I don't know if there's a satisfying answer. GW handpicked her together with Callis & Toll, and debuted the Brand unit, to be the designated PoV characters for the setting. It's got less to do with whether or not they're popular and more that someone in the company thought that it was a sound marketing strategy to elevate them as recognizable faces of the IP.Personally I'm a little salty that they seem to have dropped everything about her sylvaneth ties to exclusively focus on Be'lakor.
>>98863527>The Blue Scribes are MTO>They squatted them AoS is so soulless
>>98863177Greenskinz didn't have a battletome or named character prominent in fluff. Bonesplitterz' character kept recurring until they squatted them. I remember Malign Portents featured him. Shit is just arbitrary and unexpected. Why squat Wanderers when they survived purges, got art, got lit, etc? Why expect Dispossessed to leave when 3e prominently included them in new CoS art It's just fucking stupid
>>98863594>Why squat Wanderersbecause gw wants you to buy sylvaneth instead>Why expect Dispossessed to leavebecause the new cos are clearly a human only army and dwarf fluff was clearly moving towards a new dwarf army which gw would want you to buy instead of dispossessed
>>98863573They have practically retconned her? Same as they did with an elf named Shevenya turning her into a human named Lyssa Revenya with the C&T "reboot". Technically both still exist... But realistically? Nah, they're gone, poof. Peak rugpull by GW. Be wary of getting too attached to anything with this IP
>>98863612>because the new cos are clearly a human only armyHappened to be checking out the 4e tome and this made me lol
>>98863527>no metal horrorswould guess that, due to not wanting to make batch metal models, i would guess those TOW Orc, Bretonnia, and Empire MTO's didn't do numbers at least compared to other MTO's
>>98863615#NotAllAelves
>>98863594>Greenskinz didn't have a battletome or named character prominent in fluff.Yes but on the other hand they had a Start Collecting box unlike Bonesplitterz. 'Splitterz having literally no bundle box during their whole stay in AoS is ridiculous considering they did have a plastic Hero model, Savage Big Boss. Why GW thought what 'Splitterz needed was an Underworlds warband is beyond me.
>>98863613>They have practically retconned her?not quite, but pretty much. the events of the first book happened, but are never mentioned again. shout out to Neave's boyfriend who just dissapears.
>>98863624>>98863615feels off for some reason lol
I'm very much looking forward to the entirety of aos up until the last world getting retconned into being just a bunch of fanciful and incorrect myths and legends, while the last world will be canonically described as the direct continuation of the old world after the end times.
Any of these any fun?
>>98863720Dark Harvest was alrightGothgul Hollow is fine but it tries to tie into some stuff it shouldn't from Warhammer Fantasy which makes it weaker
>>98863720Gothghul Hollow is the best one there. Dark Harvest is the one that gets recommended the most, but it's undeserved.
>>98863683i dunno... shit like this makes it very difficult to care about any characters in aos anymore
>>98863712That would be better for everyone really. I love 1st and 2nd editions with all their goofy bits and parts and I intend to keep enjoying them preserved in amber but for the ongoing AoS setting a hard reset is necessary.
>>98863733If you love your characters and faction you must become a whale or GW will squat and nuke you in the fluff. Pay up, piggy!
>>98863675I think it'd be weird given how discounted they already were and it being every model in one box. >Big Boss>10 Orruks >5 Boarboys That's every plastic model in the range. No SC did that. No one would buy anything else.
>>98863712>direct continuation of the old world after the end times>oi Dieter you ever wonder why our city is called lethis now?>you know what I never stopped to consider that HansYeah no retard that's not what's happening at all
>>98863757bad example, it's called lethis because of the nearby lakebut even any place could still trace its name to a historically inaccurate story that became a myth
>>98863739Nice sales pitch aos team! Now give me new idoneth
>>98863783They don't sell well so we won't give them anything besides the odd pity hero(who's also nonbinary). So they don't sell well because they get nothing. So we won't give them anything because they don't sell well so...Oops guess we better squat them now, they're a lost cause.
>>98863746>That's every plastic model in the range. No SC did that. Wrong. FEC, BCR, Nurgle Daemons and Slaanesh Daemons had their whole plastic ranges included in their Start Collecting boxes. Greenskinz were only missing their Boar Cavalry, Pestilens were missing their big Rat Daemon centrepiece dude, Khorne Daemons were missing a Bloodthirster. At one point such boxes made MAJORITY of Start Collecting boxes since most armies had very small models ranges, even the Battletome ones.>No one would buy anything else.GW was not bothered with that at all. Actually, pushing as much stock as possible was the goal back then so Start Collecting boxes were amazing deals. You could build a 2k pts BCR army with just three SC boxes. Pestilens could field a 2k Virulent Procession with 2 SC boxes and a Verminlord. I believe FEC could brew a 2k pts list with just 2 SC boxes, with 3 boxes you had over 2k pts easily. That allowed people to buy into multiple armies and pump those numbers GW desperately needed to prove AoS is not failing.
>>98863795>idoneth doomer is also the diversity ragebaitertoo obvious. begone troll
>>98863853I don't think there's only one person talking about idoneth or talking about diversity in /aosg/, anon.
>>98863795That's an amazing idea Bob! And it's only a good thing, the fans will surely appreciate it after they see what other amazing products we will have in store for them soon in place for them! Again, absolutely amazing, Bob! You'll be getting a raise and promotion for this!
Tbh I don't see a level of difference in support that fyreslayers received vs idk. Gotta take a massive amount of cope to believe they're not next on the totem pole.Shortlist feels like idk, dok will be souped into whatever nu dark elves are, losing fantasy kits in the process. Kruleboyz don't feel great. The rest are probably doing well enough, but I could see them start cutting individual models in 6e that doesn't fit their vision like vengorian lords or ogroids in s2d. The creative push behind a lot of these one off or undeveloped ideas don't work on the aos team anymore and they need mold space for 40k.
>>98863903IDK started out with more kits, which were also better kits, and that sell better than fyreslayers
>>98862375>>98862398How do we recover from this? Is this an indication of where we’ll go from here?
>>98862678Batman if he was evil maybe. I do like the idea though. I’m just not sure what it would functionally play out as.
>>98862868>August 2018The golden age (for everything)… take me back…
>>98863937>How do we recover from this?Fyreslayers are going to get reproposed down the line, updated hearthguard, new special character centerpiece, some odd new thing here and there.They're not dead, it's just that it's not happening soon.
>>98863557the question is how many of them are at least decent. doubt many are willing to find out.
>>98863159Source? I’m kind of curious now
>>98863947It's a shame that AoS lore is only liked by a handful, therefore no nostalgia-fuelled community ever emerged to keep old editions alive. 40k has thriving communities for 2nd and 3rd editions, WFB still sports a strong affection for 6th edition, even HH seems to still support 2nd edition playgroups here and there.
>>98863855>it couldnt possibly be one guy trolling a thread for dozens of posts pretending to be different peoplego tell that to the 40kg
>>98863730Dark Harvest came out during peak Kurnothi hype, but yeah as a book it's not great.
Man they're really stretching out these battleforce reveals aren't they
>>98863903Only way I can see IDK getting souped is if DoK go to Old World Dark Elves and Umbraneth gets introduced as a multi-pronged "darkness" faction representing all the dark corners of the realms with the Abyssal aelves from the dark of the sea and the soul, the Shadow aelves from the dark of the night and spaces between realms, and the Nightmare aelves who are walkers through dream and death and binders of shades
>>98863977Yeah this. As stupid as the new lore is and as much as I hate it, it's not the end for Fyreslayers. Even in this new status quo where Fyreslayers suck complete ass and have to constantly bend the knee to their Khazalite betters, there's still hooks for potential expansions down the road. They'll probably give Rhuna a model eventually, do some "and then Lofnir /Ormyr discovered new types of droth bullshit" and exactly one random thing with Greyfyrd that doesn't make any sense and never gets followed up on. Seriously though, I get why they kneecapped the mainstream, protag-energy lodges, and also kept Lofnir because like all the new models are at least Lofnir adjacent and all the good ideas for new models are also droth focused, but Greyfyrd? Greyfyrd was just the edgelord Merc clan, not much to be gained from keeping them around at first glance.
>>98863805FEC and BCR, yeah. I guess they just didn't want multiple three orruk boxes.
>>988640071e didn't have any lore man and 2e was scattershot damage control. I like 1e but it was a crapshoot make up your own setting because we don't give a damn situation, and that suits me fine but it isn't appealing to most.
>>98864170>1e didn't have any lorelolololol
>>98864170>1e didn't have any lore manFunny then how the 1e Fyreslayers tome made me love it.
>leakers say characters won't even remember AoS, like they all woke up in the new setting from nothing the fuck
>>98864210Anon, AoS launched as a blank slate apocalypse. Cities of Sigmar in Firestorm were the first cities of the whole setting, it didn't have shit until the very end.
>>98860466It's fine... I'm gradually priming them over. I'm probably gonna dump off like... an amount of them. I don't see a universe wherein I need 2 parade floats and 150 witch elves.
>>98864260>I don't see a universe wherein I need 2 parade floatsBut the snek build
>>98864237How the fuck would that even work?The new world is supposed to be the realms but one plane. Like aqshy is now physically bordering ghyran for example. How the fuck do you forget something that's right there?
>>98864506Story progresses a few centuries I think.
>>98864551Yeah, I get why the average joe wouldn't know, but why would nagash or vandus or tahlia or gordrakk or... forget
>>98864105Lol. Good luck waiting for your new Fyreslayers.
>>98864596anon's a glutton for punishment. Bet he played BoC, Bonesplitterz and Sacrosanct too, the sick fuck.
>>98864402BAD NEWS, no snek. These ones were both versions EXCEPT SNAKE. Besides I might be able to make back like... more than half of what I spent on the lot. WHO KNOWS.(thankfully I already got Morathi and Krethusa)
>>98864612NTA but I did indeed played BoC and Sacrosanct...
>>98864506It works the same way it did when we went from end times to the mortal realms: massive magical upheaval, added on top of a moderate timeskip, makes immortals have alzheimer until they have to deliver some one-liners that reference past events.
>And here's my Swifthawk Agents army>my darkling covens and order serpentis based Anvilguard army>my Firebellies army
>>98864612I sure did. Was never really that into Sacrosanct tbf, but they were the basis of my initial SC army. Keeping the pegasus guy because that model was sick.
>>98864712RIP king
>>98864710>Firebellies armyYou run a single hero model and call it an army?
>>98864732A true project of love.
>>98864730I hope Sacrosanct stuff comes back, those guys were cool as fuck.
>>98864558>>98864506>>98864237Sounds like bullshit honestly
Do Khazalite Holds duardin sing songs?https://youtu.be/mtJc81vhOds
>>98864237>Wake up surrounded by a bunch of fucking freaks>Oh god I'm a giant fucking skeleton>why is my hat so god damn big?!>Who's this cunt with the beard, fuck this guy and his stupid gold armor.>Some gross snake woman, holy shit.>I'm getting the fuck out of here.
>>98864746They are not. They were squatted because reforging is no longer a thing in TLW. SCE are switching to reforging from Temu by using totally-not-magical-gene seed.
>>98863359>GW is not in the business of autistically diving into some random ass lore blurb they shit out in the process of selling [PRODUCT] anymore.They do, just not for AoS apparently, they’re really good at doing it for 40k at least.
>>98864819Nah they do it for AoS too. Even the whole "Gazul hid the secret dwarf armies in the dwarven afterlife" thing was foreshadowed multiple times ages ago.
>>98864815I mean, reforging would totally still be a thing. They are literally the guys who do it, if anything I'd expect them to make a come back explicitly for that reason.
>>98864833nta, but the rumors we have say explicitly that reforging will end with the Last World. Instead dead stormcast can "bestow their powers to their successors" upon death, in a manner not entirely unlike Space Marines harvesting Gene Seed from fallen Marines to make the next crop of Space Marines. They're just gonna be Fantasy Space Marines, basically.
>>98864846Wouldn't that mean they'd have to drag a bunch of people around with them or is the implication gonna be there's just some guy with a soul vacuum
>>98864852I think the idea is that the surviving Stormcast train apprentices, and then some ritual is done when their mentor dies to continue the tradition, along with probably whatever remains of his kit. I don't think it has to be done in the moment.
>>98864048I’m an ironjawz anon and I’ll bitch about forced diversity too. But I also play an army that’s functionally immune to it all so I don’t complain as hard as I would if I was affected
>>98864703The end times was an actual apocalyptic destruction of the literal world though, in theory this will "just" be a reshaping of this world. Plus supposedly we'll have some absolute meme tier bullshit where the survivors just walk out of a vault or whatever after the timeskip
They really need to refresh Gore Gruntas
>>98864815Sacros were not squatted because of TLW lolBesides, wouldn't the anvil of apotheosis not working anymore free them up to get back in the field anyway?
Does anyone even care about them blowing up the realms anymore? GW have proven over and over that they don't give a fuck about their own lore so why should we?
>>98865015AoS lore is legitimately the best part of the game and the realms are the core of the setting you can't just rewrite Broken Realms or Dawnbringers to take place on one realm
>>98865015I mean I don't really give a fuck whether or not the realms are a pseudo solar system or a single planet, as long as they retain their more fucked up magical elements and previously established places I don't mind. It's the timeskip and all the shenanigans that come with it that bother me more.
>>98865015>>98865028I just want them to be able to and follow through with writing better quality lore. If that means blowing up the arguably flawed foundation of the setting, go ahead. It’s a long shot, and corporate processes have and will continue to stifle creative potential, but every now and then you can still catch flashes of genuine passion in the lore.
>>98865015Like anything, it depends on the execution. I don't inherently hate the idea so much as I don't trust GW to write it in a satisfying way that justifies throwing out everything else previously established.
>>98865015We still don’t know if that’s actually true. The realms still being around but everything taking place on one big planet seems more likely than such a radical change that would invalidate stuff like >>98865015 says.
>>98865015I cared when it was first leaked, I cared less as more information came out, and as we've gotten the slow roll out of dogshit lore updates like their big explanation for Fyreslayers joining KH. To be honest, the lore hasn't really been very good since 3E, and even including 3E in that is me being generous. At this point, AoS lore is quickly becoming about as enthralling for me as TOW lore is, which is to say, not at all. 40K lore has also been dogshit the last several years, so I think GW in general is just not firing on all cylinders when it comes to fluff. Or rules. Or making sensible business decisions. They still make mostly OK models, I guess.
>>98865015>Does anyone even care about them blowing up the realms anymore?Making the world smaller and limited just puts more creative restrictions on Your Dudes storytelling. Pretty much repeating all the worst parts of Fantasy and AoS world building. GW is retarded.
>>98864235me too man me too>>98864048>>98863853doomer sure but the other is too broad
>>98865311I feel like your dudes are already phased out of the setting as they've filled everything in.I miss the infinite realms days.
>>98863720I didn’t even know Fantasy/AoS had a horror line. 40k’s is a pretty mixed bag but it can be cool.
>>98865311>>98865370You can still very easily fit /yourguys/ just about anywhere, and I doubt that will change much just because all the realms get stitched together.
>>98863720Was Dark Harvest the one with Sylvaneth villains? That one was cool
>>98864830How is that autistic detail? Old GW would’ve given us a supplement about the dwarves gods and their underworlds
>>98862298I was worried but also happy. This place is kinda stressful.
>>98862678it’s not really paranoia if it’s justified (in both accounts)
>>98862678I wonder how they'll handle him. I liked anon's suggestion from a couple months back where he is 'eternity king' as essentially the elven god of death (since tyrion seems to be taking asuryan's mantle, he can be ereth khial 2 instead) and thus watching over the souls of all elves. It all fit very neatly.Anyway, I do like lawful neutral malerion. Remains to be seen what they'll actually do with him though.Also very curious about what the army's aesthetic will be like. I don't really like the shadow thing they did with the UW and warcry warbands, so hopefully something different. Though I did reslly like the orignal mistweaver from silver tower, so maybe it's just a matter of better execution.
>>98864972>Refresh a model that's barely 10 years old and shows no signs of age compared to the rest of the rangeYou're part of the problem.
>>98865668your eyes are part of the problem, gruntas were ugly since the moment of release
>>98862681Completely axing the Corpse Cart without a refresh would suck. I feel like it would suck a lot of the evil out of the faction what with the transportation of corpses for later use. The big floating models I care less about. They're cool to look at, but my god they look like a bitch and a half to paint. Model wise they might just be valuable for bits.
>>98863720I've only listened to Castle of Blood and I can say it's awful. It's mildly interesting pretty much only until the first kill happens and then it's just a bore the whole rest of the way through. Very little suspense, characters you really don't give a shit about. I'm glad I got it basically free from a bundle because it's not worth the price of a book or audiobook.
>>98864210Ah yes, such deep lore
>>98865668No, they’re very much in need of it
WH Weekly is so washed bros. I can barely get through the Khazalite book review through the constant snark and bad faith
>>98865706Is that the full pic
>>98865706It's ok Anon. You can just say you don't actually know any 1E lore.
How big are the terrain pieces in the city of ash spearhead thing? I don’t want to buy it but make my own for spearhead games
>>98865817Tom became a family man, he doesn't have enough time for it. Vince became a completely soulless waacfag with an ever expanding dog family. I dropped it a few weeks into the autistic guy who doesn't even paint models replacing Tom and any time I check in to see how things are I see my decision validated. Grim.
Still waiting for Underworlds and Warcry news...
>>98865668I was saying they were too static since day 1 ngl
>>98862688If you'd care to share, Gofile is what they typically use for uploads and just post the string of characters at the end of the link. It expires after a few days so no corpo can find and take it down later on a random scan.
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>>98865625Going by the trend it will be generic whfb evil dark elves 2.0 with the most surface level stereotypes and tropes you can find in the fantasy genre
Post modelsReally not liking this specific mini or the process of painting it or the specific colors I'm using. Not sure exactly what I don't like about it but it hasn't been fun.
>>98866077Think I posted it earlier but uhhh, here's my singluar mancrusher still WIP. Took some time to organize my too many armies and he's been a little relaxing project while I figure out what the fuck to do next.
>>98866104I saw it earlier but I'm glad you reposted it because I didn't get a chance to compliment you on it. Biiiig fan of the freehands on the tattoo, pants and scroll, on top of the sick conversion. I have enough points left over to field a man crusher RoR, they're such a great kit from a different era.
>>98863720>>98865702I got Castle of Blood hardcover, and yeah ditto on it being dogshit. Concept is neat, and that's about it. By second half felt like the author had no idea what to do with the story and just starts haphazardly killing everyone, and not even in entertaining way.
>>98866122Aw shit man thank you! Honestly I enjoyed working on this guy quite a bit more than I expected to, not necessarily my best paint job in the world but I'm really happy with how he turned out.
>>98866153Is this guy gonna be in any specific army? What else is he going to be fielded next to
>>98866193I mean I'll probably run him as an RoR or just slap him in with my sons if I want to use the Ma ability.The gimmick for my SoB army is none of them are the same design, I tried to make each one unique. (Easier back when uh, you only needed 4 fucking guys.)
>>98863618GW actually sent me an email to apologise about these lol, i wonder if the mold broke
Golden demon reveals coming out, what a great time to love mini painting
"I hate flight stands" final boss
He can't keep getting away with it
>>98865280Ehh, I would say that despite having its ups and downs the lore is still in a good place
>>98866620It will never be anything more than a Boardroom approved spinoff property, of something they already raped to death over a barrel.
>>98866690The lore sucked before unless you were completely new to fantasy. At the least they've tried to take the least derivative aspects of WHFB make something distinct and not just a melting pot of fantasy tropes and slapped together historical empires
>>98866148>>98865702Of all those I thought the CL Werner one would be decent at least. Oh well.
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>>98866690I’m talking about all the properties in general btw. AoS is in something of a stupor but it can recover from it.
>>98862569>>98862795>>98862816I’m glad I’m not the only one kind of weirded out by this line of thought they’re probably one of the least likely to get that treatment right now
Where's our battle forces?
