Ending the vermindoom edition>Previously in the Mortal Realms:>>98839515>Official AoS website:https://www.ageofsigmar.com>Downloads, Rules Errata, and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-downloads/>Toolshttps://runebrush.pa-sy.com/warscroll/https://lordbaconbane.github.io/aoswarscrollcreator/>4e Booksgofile.io/d/KAQe7n7f>Anvil of Apotheosis hero creator (old):https://aosg.github.io/https://sigdex.io/>Thread question:Alright now that the khazalid tome is out I feel like it's on theme to get greedy, so:What units would you like to see in a hypothetical second wave?>hardmode: no fyreslayers>Sigmar Must Lie mode: no recycling whfb dwarf units
>>98847243Always love seeing your work anon
Show me your pokemans
>>98847257Ty I posted before I realized we had fresh bread
>>98847259Good stuff anonAlways found the chosen drummer a bit of a funny unit model though. Like you've climbed the ranks all the way to fucking chosen and all you do is bang a drum? You guys don't have a lackey hanging around who can do that for you?
>>98847272You have the wrong idea. He's not a chaos warrior that was so good that he got promoted to chosen and forced to drum. He's a drummer who was so good at drumming that he was promoted to chosen.
I left AoS when CoS came out and nuked my Warriors-and-Quarrellers only Dispossesseed army I was mid-building. (I had a whole theme and story for My Guys about it) (also I never played WHFB, for the record)I come back bc New Dorfs, and I just want to say in the most autistic way possible...I hate how GW has no concept/respect for their own invented language. I know it's the minor-est of dumb things to spaz about. But it would have been so simple to like...consult their own wordlists and construct things in a way that made sense. Not just lumping random phonemes together.Like, Dron is thunder, but Thunderers are called Thunderers bc the word for handgun is Thrund. Kromdron just...means nothing, really. Same with Thrundrin, and Thrundok is a bastardization of Thrundi/Thrundaz.Anyway. I still wanna buy the things, even though I haven't played in years and I know it'll prolly be stupid, based on the slight rules leaks in here so far.Reposting but also I just hope everyone her has fun and has good Dudes.Keep hobbying, friends.
>>98847284Kek You've sold me on him
>>98847213Repoastin since last thread died >Just got Hashut-pilled and bought the spearhead, anyone have the helsmiths tome they'd be willing to share?
>>98847288I got nuked in the cos refresh too but at the end of the day I feel like I spend so much time on the hobby side that changes to the rules aren't the end of the world. I used to have a living cities list based around demigryphs, but that's not a thing anymore.
>>98847284
>>98847288>I hate how GW has no concept/respect for their own invented language. I know it's the minor-est of dumb things to spaz about. But it would have been so simple to like...consult their own wordlists and construct things in a way that made sense. Not just lumping random phonemes together.It's not dumb to be disappointed with the inconsistency, but I think about it this way to cope. The expectations you have about the fictional language are based in a language from countless thousands of years past and 2 apocalpsi(apocalypses?) ago. Culture and languages evolve and change over time. -dron has become the suffix referring to Duardin of a certain kind. Duardin is now the in-universe word for them and as of the early AoS Gotrek books, they do not know the term Dawi or Dwarf. I'm with you on GW not respecting their fantasy languages anymore but the truth is the corporate streamlining of the creative process has heavily neutered the depth the creatives are allowed to add to the setting. Hell, many factions don't even have more than like 5 race-specific language terms. One of my biggest gripes is the lack of simple subfaction icons for so many factions, namely my LRL and Deepkin.
>>98847406Yeah, true, I just...as someone with conlanging as a major special interest...I wish they'd throw me a bone now and then xDI also sat there trying to collect all the little pieces of the Kharadron Code into a complete document, before my computer wiped, so sometimes the tism can absolutely be redirected XD
>>98847406>One of my biggest gripes is the lack of simple subfaction icons for so many factions, namely my LRL and Deepkin.Agree wholeheartedly, though with idoneth there's at least the cope that banners and shit don't matter as much when you're primarily an underwater cicilization. Lumineth REALLY should have some more faction iconography though what the fuck.
>>98847300https://www.scribd.com/document/984063503/Helsmiths-of-Hashut-2025you can find some of them online now by just typing pdf. Stuff like sylvaneth or lumineth arent available though on scribd
>>98847489This guy drew his own coats of arms for them. GW would go ballistic if someone on their payroll put forth this kind of thoughtful effort.
>>98847513They would be mad about someone putting in effort?
>>98847521Yes!
>>98847521Poorly worded and I can't find the words for it, but I mean going more in depth on something instead of moving on to the next project because the work that's done is "good enough".
>>98847535I imagine it’s just them being cheap on page quotas and printing they can sell it to you in a white dwarf eventually anyway why put it in a battletome I guess. I wouldn’t be bothered if GW still did supplements for fantasy. We will literally never see another Firestorm campaign
>>98847259Gonna paint Lord of Blights for the sequel.
>>98847882I fucking love it
>>98847882Almost makes me wanna work on my gitz.Almost.
>>98847288>justt mean nothingits also possible that over the course of several thousand years, multiple apocalypses, and a civilizational collapse or two, the language has changed over time.
>>98847300Does no one check the op anymore? It's there.
>>98848434Last I checked its not usable because of high traffic or something like that.
>>98846260>>98845922Alright they sold 2 more since that post and have 5 left. Selling fast.
>>98848438Fair. Here's an upload since Scribd never works for me.https://vikingfile.com/f/spsw40Vm5A
>>98847288>Like, Dron is thunder, but Thunderers are called Thunderers bc the word for handgun is Thrund. Kromdron just...means nothing, really. Same with Thrundrin, and Thrundok is a bastardization of Thrundi/Thrundaz.>Why is this literal different universe not using the language of this other literal different universe?
>>98847882Is this guy back to drawing?
>>98848683He’s on and off, I think he’s drawing mobas now.
>>98847259
>>98848542>biggest store in his country had 8 boxesWhat's the wargaming scene like in Tuvalu anyway?
>>98848757I never said they started with 8. I imagine the most dedicated people got theirs at 11AM sharp which was before I checked.
>>98848763Aaaah, now you're changing your tale! New to this trolling thing?
>>98848811Retard.>>98845922>biggest store in my country has sold a grand total of 1 since I last checked this morning.>since I last checked this morning.
How time flies
I miss allegiance/subfaction rules. The bare bones battle formations just don't hit the same.
Oh by the way for that one anon wondering, I swung by the local gw the other day to check out the new mini thing of the month thing. Yeah it really seems like it's more about expanding the options for people painting their literal first mini in store than something for regulars like the old system. If your local guy is really chill he'll probably let you take on home every now and then but it really feels like the idea behind the new system is assembling and painting in store (mostly for newcomers)
>>98846471>>98846402Nta but thanks anon!
>>98847406>One of my biggest gripes is the lack of simple subfaction icons for so many factions, namely my LRL and Deepkin.GW just needs to bite the bullet and stop bothering with selling rulebooks, and instead pivot to selling them for the lore. Sure, they can still have the rules in them, but people just pirate them half the time now. I would actually buy battletomes if they had a meaningfully large section on fluff to read and look at
>>98848654I was going to point that out but we’re in AoS black pill power hour no fun only misery and talking about things that cause you misery
>>98849098I would pay for a reverse "gamer's edition" where you just get the lore and art part of the tome but without all the rules.60 bucks is just too much for these things nowadays
>>98849205if they lasted 8-10 years like the old ones in the 90s and 00s, then i could maybe stomach the price tag, but the nonstop march of the 3 year edition cycle is just too much, especially if you have more than one army. between my old WHFB armies, 40k and now the aos armies i've collected, i have 8. so they want me to shell out $480 every 3 years on disposable trash books most of which are featuring the same recycled art and lore every time with minor tweaks, on top of also paying another $200ish per game every edition for the core books, seasonal books and campaign books?its just insane
>>98849205Yep. I wish GW would just sort of have a reassessment and reset with stuff. They need to try and consider what they really want to do with the games, besides just make money obviously. Competitive games aren't necessarily bad, but having them as the focal point of fluffy beer and pretzels fun is bizarre
gonna have to ask here. so i looked at the photos of the KH tome and the only way I can see of getting a PRIEST is to take a Runesmiter.so if you're trying to run pure non-fyreslayer army, you're fucked? because there is no way to get prayers otherwise.
>>98849250Couldn’t you just convert some other dwarf into a priest looking guy and use that?
>>98849282I suppose so, yes, but it's still running a fyreslayer runesmiter rule wise. just baffling they made a new faction and didn't even make a priest unit.
>>98849290It's because it's only wave 1, it's a common issue with every wave 1 release.
>>98849303i think it's just a flat out common issue with GW being retarded. same with Seraphon not getting any endless spells or priests.
Are army sets being bought up by scalpers?
>>98849313I don't think GW even want to make endless spells anymore, and I wouldn't surprised if they were either removed with 5e or further reduced to make sure no one wants to run them (like they did with elves and dwarfs for wave 2 of CoS, nerfing them to the point that you don't want to run them despite clearly stating they are being removed soon.)
>>98849342I assume so too but when factions have loads of "help with manifestation" abilities you start to think it isn't for awhile yet.
>>98849348Those types of abilities don't take much to add and remove, and like you said: I also don't don't think it'll be for awhile.
>>98849342Most recent one was tzeentch iirc, which wasn't THAT long ago. Before that it was idoneth I think? But that one is a bit of special case.Idk I think it's a bit early to write them off just yet, but I also wouldn't be terribly surprised.
>>98849313>common issue with GW being retardedim actually siding with this. there have been a slew of just weird design choices that are completely divorced from any internal logic or sense that anyone who actually played the game or cared about the armies and their lore would catch in half a second, any real fan would immediately call it out. since thats not happening, i think these books lately have either been written algorithmically, or written mercenarily by someone who gives absolutely zero shits about the lore or vibeexample 1: not only do the only priests in the army end up being fyreslayers, but the unlimited prayer they chant is a prayer to valaya, not grimnir. there is a prayer to grimnir, but the fyreslayers entire school of magmic prayers and invocations have been wiped out despite them being the only priests in the bookexample 2: the runewrights are wizards. they have decided to make runesmithing function using the games magic system. okay. but there's also no restrictions i've seen on the runewrights using their status as wizard 1 to just cast regular endless spells, which means you now just straight up have dwarf wizards who dont turn to stone and have had to make no bargain with an evil god for sorcerous power, they just get itexample 3: the boats are not wizards and cannot use rune magic, despite both versions actually having a runewright on the ship front and center.example 4: the golems of ghazul and valaya have the same armor save and defensive profile despite one of those units having a 10 foot tall iron shield and the other having no shield at all, and in fact the shield itself serves only as an offensive tool. the whole book is full of all of these weird little choices that just make zero fucking sense or break the lore or do something obviously opposite from what it should do, that any sensible human would catch instantly. and its not just this book. 4e's books have been full of these types of just WTF left and right
>>98849066That's too time consuming.
>>98849384KH have some anti manifestation abilities. Orcs also just got endless spells this edition. If there's a trend, it seems to just be that new/refreshed armies aren't getting endless spells in their first wave, which might just be a business decision to use them as filler releases later on.
>>98849388To be fair to the boat wizard, I think they are busy driving the ship.
>>98849396> the boat wizardfrom what i've seen there are 3 wizards on the boat
>>98849388>example 4: the golems of ghazul and valaya have the same armor save and defensive profile despite one of those units having a 10 foot tall iron shieldSCE used to have Liberators with shields or Liberators with two hammers. Two hammers had more offensive ability. Shields had re-roll 1's for saves iirc. Then the new Liberators came and they have the exact same profile regardless of what you put on them. Two hammers? Still 3+. Shield? Still 3+ and no re-roll. Completely irrelevant and thus the visual design (i.e, a unit with shields is instinctively going to have a better defensive profile than one with two weapons) is moot.Now you then have shit like Stormvermin where the old kit could have shields and thus there were rules for shields, but the new kit doesn't have shields so the rules don't have shields.I can understand them making Runewrights wizards for the sake of ease of rules (so they don't have to rewrite the entire thing or add new rules) but the fact they can plop out manifestations and shit is a bit odd, yes. But this is a rule vs lore type issue and stuff that doesn't make sense. Like Seraphon used to have an artefact that allowed any SKINK to fly when they put it on, because Engine of the Gods Stegadon had SKINK it meant you could put it on it and the Stegadon would fly. Obviously not what was intended but still was doable (until GW got rid of it). This is par for the course for GW. But in terms of the KH tome? Yeah a lot of oddness.
How do I use Gluttons in Spearheads? You start with 2 and on Turn 3, bring in 3 more.
>>98849403One's a Stonesmith, one's a Grudgebearer and one's a Holdseeker.
>>98849403I think it's only two of them. The guy with the book is there to yell at people about grudges.>dude in front is barefootMissed that. Is the basic runesmith also barefoot? Could be a way to tell who the magic fellas are.
>>98849412The basic runewright dude is not barefoot, I think it's specifically the geomancers that are. The one on the cannon kit is also barefoot iirc
>>98849435seems inconsistent. the one on the cannon is enchanting shells, why would he need to be barefoot?
>>98849388reading this... and thinking about some strange rules and the ways its generally written do stand out as being overly complicated, and just poorly thought out.could it be the case that all the faction rules written for this edition were ai generated
>>98849388Whoever keeps trying to give factions resource mechanics should be dragged out into the street and shot. Helsmiths have DP, and it's shit. Khazalites have grudge marks, and they're shit.I know they're not the only factions that have resource mechanics (Ossiarch also have them, as an example), but more often than not, they're bad rules that are poorly implemented. It feels awful playing a faction that requires you generate and spend resources just to make your army operate at the same level of functionality as other factions do normally.
>>98849544i dont wholly agree but i dont wholly disagree.there is a world of difference between helsmiths and khazalites though. the khazalite grudges are MUCH easier to get and hold onto, and the units power up with only one instead of needing a full 3. its a significant improvement over the helsmiths iteration.
>>98849575I don't disagree. I think Helsmiths get the worst of it, which is made worse by side of their range (fewer options to deal deal with problems, rules outright shrinking list building options - i.e Taars Grand Forgehost or there simply be no reason to take swords over spears on infernal cohort). But regardless of which is worse, I still think both a terrible and need to be removed/changed.
>>98849509She's not enchanting shells, she's straight up pulling little columns of stone out of the earth to use *as* shells.
Anybody have any tips on beating a Squig heavy list as Skaven?If not, post cute Squigs.
>>98849621You now notice that the exact same "shell" is used for the mortar.Sorry not sorry.
Does anyone have pdfs for the 4th edition battletomes for the HOS and/or the SOB?
>>98849403this model is fucking awful
>>98849733I think it's a great centrepiece, I love the detail of the empty plinth where Hashut should stand. Very petty and grudgey not to just get rid of his space entirely.
>>98849627Adding properly sized shells for the mortar was too expensive for gw please understand
>>98849746it's too goofy. Doesn't match AoS at all. And the "waves" don't make any sense at all from a physics perspective.
>>98849774I don't think it's too goofy for AoS, though I agree I'd love to see it in action in a video game or something to see how they imagine it moving.
>>98849774> too goofy> Doesn't match AoS
>>98849772it fires cluster round like a shotgun. please understand
>>98849627What if the duardin sharts in the barrel and uses that?
>>98849774I think you need to re-evaluate your tastes because I think you have dogshit in them. >>98849792Gate Gargants are kino
>>98849627Don’t they work with the magical rocks on the go for their needs? Not to say I wouldn’t have minded alternative crew for the mortar.
>>98849837those are already finished projectiles there. Tip shaped and everything.
>>98849774>it's too goofy. Doesn't match AoS at allBrother, the landboat is less jarring and more appropriate for AoS than KO is as faction on the whole.
>>98849890>>98849802We need more KO worldbuilding. Like how does the plumbing work in a skyport. Is there a septic tank guild? Do they just toss a city's worth of dwarf shit and piss "overboard"? What happens to someone who happens to be standing under a passing skyport?
>>98849915>Do they just toss a city's worth of dwarf shit and piss "overboardIf you would please consult the image
>>98849981The Saarhold.
>>98849915i would kill for more KO lore; looks like the white collars are only interested in vibes
Bunch of BL books release next week, and that Red Gobbo modelalso the Monday reveal is the Christmas boxes for 40khttps://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/q39hsvbj/sunday-preview-tomb-kings-rise-again/
>>98849992didnt they just get a TV show like yesterday?
>>98849988Barak-Pradesh
>>98849999lmao; the show where the sky dwarf plummet to their death at the first turbulence; lol
>>98849995>end of october>release of Cristmas miniatureSure, GW, sure
>>98849999Speaking of that show, apparently what they're hunting in the lightning and shit are stormcast souls, which they then sell back to the sigmarites lmao
>>98850045What's the price for avoiding eternal torment these days?
>>98850062For you my friend Grungsson have special offer. Only fifty vials and you get your gryph hound back for free. Is good yes?
>>98849995TK are right on brand for Halloween but the Red Gobbo this early?
>Announce a new model for Seraphon>Leakers said KH would be the 'last tome'>still no Seraphon tomeSo are they waiting for Christmas to reveal new Saurus Guard and the Coatl guy?
>>98850179I'm pretty sure that Skink is what's coming with Seraphon and nothing else
Do Boss Stomper heads for on Maegran?
>>98850185That's what I thought but the fact there is zero sign of the tome makes me think there is more coming. The leakers said more was coming. With End of Edition campaign stuff.
>>98849988>>98850000I'm Indian and this made me lul
>>98849988>>98850000>>98850093made me giggle
>>98849403This thing is gonna look awful when actual people who aren't gods try to paint it
>>98850205They showed the Tome in the preview show along with that Skink model, so it will probably come with the KH full release
>>98850185They're getting a coatl apparently, probably in the end of edition campaign since they're heavily involved therein.(No the tepok guy is not the coatl)>>98850227I had an indian flatmate from tamil nadu and he fucking hated northern indians. According to him at least all the stereotypes are because of the north and specifically uttar pradesh and bihar.No idea if it's true but at a glance hdi and whatnot does look to be significantly higher in the south.
>>98850284i don't want to see this in contrast slop
>>98847259Another rat ogre completed. His skin looks kinda ass but I do love how the warpstone crystal on him turned out.
>>98850368BASED Rat Ogre painter. I have a fair few of them but I'm too scared of ruining them to paint them. I keep putting them off. Any tips?
>>98847284That’s hilarious anon. One of things I didn’t expect to like so much getting into this hobby was all the customization and backstories people give their models. It’s really cool to hear some dude explaining his units lore while we play
>>98849915I like to assume under every major skyport there is a giant junkyard shrouded in eternal darkness due to the port blocking the sky over it. You have fringe scavenger groups equiped with strong flashlight sifting through the scrap metal from old ships and other mechanical debrie + thankless city guard units that try to stop nurgle incursions amng the filth and rust
>>98850370The hardest part will 100% be figuring out wtf is skin versus fur versus exposed muscle. Personally I picked out any dips and holes as exposed muscle then any areas with significant muscle definition were treated as skin then everywhere else was fur. For fur I used a contrast for this one and my previous rat ogre. I like contrasts for fur since it gives some nice texture and they cover large swaths of the model fast. For the skin I separated it into naturally showing skin and skin that was previously covered by fur. My logic was that like real rats skin hidden under fur is paler than skin on the feet and head usually. So I used two different base coats then slathered gulliman flesh all over them. Personally I think it’s too saturated but I guess it could be worse. And for the open wounds I used rakarth flesh then flooded it with carrobugc crimson which makes an excellent bloody color. For the warpstone I used warp lightning over averland. I then carefully put some warp lightning in the cracks to give it a glowing effect.
>>98850284I've been thinking about that too, requires some serious skills to get that marble effectElse it'll just look like a plastic dinghy
>>98850045>>98842722Sin: GREED!
my proud kharadron set sail every sharts day to unload a years worth of stored shit and piss on unsuspecting knife ears
>>98850368I'm still waiting for my Thanquol's goopy toxic waste base to dry. I've been getting lazy and doing a bunch of resin pouring for my various projects to try and see how it looks.I'll say, very nice way to get some neato effects.
>>98847213Alright lemme take a crack at this TQ>easy modeJust doing fyreslayers wave 2:-refreshed vulkites taking cues from warcry-droth heavy cav-warmachine pulled by droths, flamethrower and ballista version-centrepiece anvil of doom on juggernaut, again pulled by a couple droths>hardmode: no slayersI feel like for non FS khazalites a kind of ranger unit is pretty likely, probably following the darkwater design. Another artillery piece would be nice, I don't think there's a single faction in the game that even has more than one artillery model (dual builds don't count). Maybe CoS if you count the cogfort.>sigmar must lie modeOh man okay if it has to be something out of left field then I'd like them to explore the geomancer stuff, that's pretty cool. Maybe a unit of elite swordsmen themed after hashut? So we have an elite unit themed after both valaya and gazul who seem to be the two most important ancestor gods so far. Yeah technically grungni is above them but it's all been focused on the other two.More gholem variants would be cool too but that's a bit of a cop-out.
>>98850197Wha?>>98847213Alright now that the khazalid tome is out I feel like it's on theme to get greedy, so:What units would you like to see in a hypothetical second wave?Well we already got mech golems and some sort of rock thing, no fyreslayers... I MEAN, I'm gonna cheat, those fuckin anti arrow spinny balistas from the hobbit. For more rune stuff I would love a two man unit of a shredded old man dwarf smith with a giant fuckoff hammer and like 3 dwarves holding an anvil he's smithing on. Dorf-esque Gobbapalooza, little engineer guy, runesmith, guy with a giant grudge list, and a grumpy longbeard that constantly argue and you roll to determine your buff (2d6 - every 3 fitting a respective dwarf winning the argument for the turn.)
>>98850284>>98850469>>98850367Doesn't have to be marble, just doing it as regular stone is fine. Even better to paint it red so you're just tossing a brick at the other guy
>>98850816kek
>>98849774>>98849733Top tier bait, mate. A true 10/10
No Hammerer, Irondrake or Longbeard-esque unit in Khaz Hlds. Odd.
>>98850883Now these are real dawi
>>98850883>HammererHearthguard Berzerkers>IrondrakeAuric Hearthguard>LongbeardClansshields are fairly elite and are as armoured/heavily equipped as LBs. Longbeards are now the basic infantry
Khazalite holds starter box has sold out.
>>98850900You love to see it
>>98850293India is rife with rivalries like that. As best as I can tell the south seems to have the worst habits but really the whole place partakes in that shit>>98850823Is a chorf really one to talk
>>98850896>Clansshields are fairly elite and are as armoured/heavily equipped as LBs.Not even close, they're like 90 pajama.But you should still run them as that.
>>98850910Paki living in 35% Indian area here, there is an assload of infighting with Indians. One of the quickest things I noticed when I moved here was even back in middle school no other race would self segregate as much but somehow simultaneously hate each other as much. I was in the gifted class which was 90 percent Indian and pretty much everyone was extremely passive aggressive towards me since I was an “outsider”. Funny thing is that other pakis often sided with them since I was white looking. (I’ve been mistaken for greek/Mediterranean or Persian a lot). Then I’d see the Indians fight amongst themselves and brag about their fucking caste. They also were unironically all white worshippers. One time I worked with some blonde haired girl for a project and when one indian dude noticed he told my other classmates and they all pretended to be friendly despite the fact they all bullied me. They act like the skaven irl a lot of the time. Also they were mostly South Indian and specifically telegu
>>98850900Is that in the US?It sold out yesterday there
>>98850900Dozens of them still at all retailers here
>>98850960>>98850958Yeah this is in the US
>no rootking mention
>>98847213>What units would you like to see in a hypothetical second wave?>>hardmode: no fyreslayers>>Sigmar Must Lie mode: no recycling whfb dwarf unitsgiant-sized gholem of grungni, with an optional build for a gholem of grimnirunderworlds warband of gazul warrior priestsgrombrindal and inghildegeomancy manifestations scenery piece that's a gated entrance to an underground tunnelrangers made after drolf from darkwater, but with an heavier thematic connection with grombrindalminers but less technological, they've got a gong as musician, and stonesinger as champion, and are themed after inghilde like the valayan guard to valaya
>>98850816KH are just dwarf vaulties which means they're a little inbred but not so inbred it's a problem yet
I’m not a fan of how… evil? Morally gray? GW is making Sigmar I’m not mad at some shit fuckery but it’s like every single time he’s come up since the end of 2nd its nothing but th nudging me in the ribs saying “hey did you know he’s not that good :)” I get it already
>>98851002Even at his worst he's still fine. It's a guy given big power but not omnipotence who wants to help as many people as possible going up against the world. For what he's stuck with I'd say he's not a bad guy.
>>98851002Sigmar is what the God-Emperor thinks he is and the God-Emperor is what Sigmar worries he might be.
>>98850290Yeah that's the thing. They previewed it and nowt has come out. With the leakers saying more stuff is coming End of Edition (with Coatl mentioned) GW dropping the tome now only to add a new unit a few months later would be baffling. Then again, this is GW. Why the delay for what is a single model and a tome? Seems really fucking odd.
>>98851042Pretty much this. Like I said last thread I’d worship the emperor because I’d have to and I’d worship sigmar because I want to. Besides if they are gonna make sigmar and the stormcast more grey wouldn’t that just make it more like 40K? Personally I like that the stormcast can actually be normal and interact with normal humans in the cities of sigmar. Side note imagine going to your local chess tournament and your opponent is gods chosen warrior.
>>98850883Retard>>98850896Trvth Nvke
>>98850945>I'm paki>I'm so gifted, people even tell me I'm white>Indians are bad racists obsessed with whites>I saw a white woman once and now everyone in class bullies me (blonde btw)
>>98851139Kek. Yeah my life sounds retarded. That’s how I ended up on this shithole. Correction on the last part. I was bullied then they immediately tried to turn around and pretend it didn’t happen because they saw me talk to a women once. Believe it or not Indians are that crazy
>>98851002Yeah it’s annoying, the Sigmar lied BS is already so forced and cringe worthy, they really want him to be more (less?) than just The Good Guy™ but they don’t actually know how to do it without making him do something so retarded even they would scoff at it, hopefully they get their heads of out of their asses and realize it’s a waste of time and effort. >>98851042Emperor doesn’t even technically have a single mind anymore so his opinion on his own rule and how he handled things is ironically probably going to vary widely at this point.
Go back to 40kg decal anon
>>98849408Someone answer me?
>>98851002Feels like that's modern western writing everywhere now, god forbid we have a grand morally good hero without millions of skeletons in his closet and various justifications for how your enemies are not so different.
>>98851155Men are same everywhere (especially when they are young), moment they can gain something or think they have a chance with a chick by being close to you: they'll pretend to be best friends.
>>98851171No.
I actually like the valayan guards with shields. I think an army without clan shields and thunderers would look great. - droths- shield nuns- naked guys/partly naked guys - golems painted to match droths- artillery
>>98851207Speaking of valayans, wonder if you can paint up those hair buns with red hair like the one chick an anon posted here a thread or two back. I am excited to try it once they come out proper, hope the clothing over the hair isn't too much of a barrier to making it look like actual hair.
>>98851230A few of the buns are a weird shape that regular hair wouldn't be
>>98851333Wonder if I can just chip at it with xacto and then greenstuff it abit to add some texture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxOA8pnBguE>world explodes>dwarfs take to the skies>still can't avoid rats
>>98847458>>98847406nudwarfs are larpers speaking pig latin in the far far future where there is only war.
>>98851494If there's one thing you can't avoid on a whaling ship it's varmint
Want to start my first army. I’m in between Hedonites, Bonereapers, or Tree elves. Thoughts?
>>98851610By the time your finished with bone reapers, they might have some actual decent rules in 5th. That being said sylvaneth is ultimately better than the other 2.
>>98851610Do you have any experience with painting minis etc or is this just your first army for aos specifically?
>>98851622I’m not particularly looking for anything meta, just looking to have fun and troll my opponents with goofy combos.
>>98851685Just first army with AOS. I got an airbrush and everything! I mostly just fool around and paint and read rules but now I want to start AOS.
>>98851706Hedonites.You must suffer
>people moaning there are no 'elite' units for KHWhat? You literally got two gholem units with insane stats (that become even better if you make a Runewright hang with them and cast the +1 rend spell) and you've got the Valya Guardians who are pretty good too. Moaning they don't have 2W (I refuse to say 'Health') model infantry while rocking 3+ saves.
Anyone got a link to the full arknaut episode
>>98851818The Hearthguard lost a wound?
>>98851706Alright yeah because hedonites can be absolute bitch to build and paint for a beginner. But if that's not really much of a concern I suppose it comes down to gameplay and future support.Sylvaneth are definitely the strongest of the three at the moment, are a very tricksy army in general, standard wood elf nonsense. Similarly slaanesh play like you would expect slaanesh to play, move fast and hit hard but not too tanky etc etc. Bonereapers I can't personally comment on.In terms of support they're all generally solid at the moment. Ossiarchs just got a nice medium size release wave so I wouldn't expect much else for a good while, except maybe a new arkhan which was vaguely rumoured a while back. Sylvaneth similarly had a good expansion last edition and are pretty solid right now. Could see them redoing dryads in the not-so-distant future. Also whatever the fuck they're doing with kurnothi, though from what we know from leakers that'll be a while, if at all.Slaanesh generally has a big and modern range, some of their older daemon stuff got squatted with the latest tome. Other than daemonettes I think all their models are now from 2nd edition AoS onwards? Apparently they're redoing all the minor daemons next edition so that'll be something to look forward to, and maybe they'll being the chariots back while they're at it.That's about all of the top of my headOh and as always if you wanna start playing look into spearhead first since it's fun and quick and low commitment, so ideal for beginners
>>98851822They're not counting fyreslayers either.
>>98851815I have such sights to see.
Do any musicians in AOS have bagpipes
>>98851610Bonereapers cool in models - Terrible in gameplay rn (shitty book)Tree Elves - Cool models, amazing in gameplay rnHedonites - Cool Models, Eh in gameplay.Personally I like bonereapers and death more as a whole but Tree elves are neato
>>98851881Why do you say hedonites have eh gameplay?
>>98851873A Bilepiper
>>98851892I'm more talkin' quality of tome, they're fine. The temptation dice are nowhere near as exciting in game as they sound in premise. They're a perfectly fine army, though I'll say you probably want Glutos or Sigvald and I know a few people get annoyed with named characters being better options.
>>98851873Units musicians? No. Random units? Yeah.
>>9885181820+ppm for single wound infantry is on the extreme end of expensive. even with that ward, the valayan units really could have done with a second wound3+ saves are effectively 5+ saves because god damn everything in the game has had several editions of rend creep and now every unit thats going to be attacking you probably has rend 2 or better, and in this edition of 3" combat range units are also eating more attacks than ever, so for something to actually take a punch it needs to be ardboy or rotsword levels of tough with 40 wounds per squad in addition to good saves and a ward. 220 pts for 10 health is pretty bad. possibly the only saving grace for them is that maybe with their ward they can eek out a survival from a hit with 1 or 2 models left and then use the once per game revive to stick around but even then thats only a few models back per squad and you need to run multiple squads to really get value out of it.in reality, the valayans are not an elite unit in the normal sense. one unit are assassins, while the other are a utility buff piece. the halberd valayans can charge as though they fly which means they can jump over lines to spear support heroes or get into back ranks. they have the damage to challenge a hero, but at 2 attacks per model for 20pts they dont have the damage to meaningfully harm actual unit vs unit combat. valayans with shields you're going to take more for their buff to other units and not want them actually fighting so you can make their buff last as long as possible. it applies to the king on boat too, so valayans buffing kings might be a common play, especially the generic one who can drag his valayans around with him
>>98851935adding onto that, the valyan halberds units ability is once per (army) so you'll probably want one reinforced unit of them. but the valayans with shields bonus ward is shockingly not once per (army) so i could actually see you taking these ones in MSU 5 man squads to sprinkle 2 or 3 of throughout your army providing 5+ ward bubbles across your lines. they all need a grudge mark, but if you take the valayan golems in MSU and get them killed early they immediately give a grudge to every valayan unit that can see them, so you could run them suicidally, get some quick value out of a fight, then when they blow up suddenly your whole army is rocking a 5+ ward for the rest of the game.
>>98851935>>98851956This would be a great argument if you didn't have Auric Hearthguard and shit.
>>98851970>auric hearthguard...the shooty ones? i dont follow. how do they counter what i was talking about?
>>98851992Guess you didn't see my 'and shit' bit, because Hearthguard Berserkers exist.
>>98852006okay you're going to have to stop vagueposting and actually say what you mean. what are you even disagreeing about?
>>98851869We should get more HR inspired units for them
Any torrent for WH+ shows? Aekanaut specifically. really hard to find them for some reason
>>98852402Subscribe or die
>>98852402Wait a day, two, or more—maybe some good Samaritan will upload one, or maybe not; who knows? Fingers crossed, and here’s hoping for a bit of luck, my friend.
>>98852402If you're looking around can you give me a heads up if you stumble across Noah Van Nguyen's WH+ interview from last week? I'm too lazy to do it myself.
>>98852068No longer allowed since the infernal enrapturess got sent to the gulag. Now we just get gay shit.
>>98847213Tg>more golems>more ancestor dedicated elites besides fat leia>return of vulkite berzerkers>PLEASE redone clanshields and leaf blowers
>>98851873squig herders
>>98847213>What units would you like to see in a hypothetical second wave?Something pertaining to Inghilde. Like miners.>Sigmar Must Lie mode: no recycling whfb dwarf unitsOkay, so they're called Clanhold Lanterneers and they only exist to suicidally contest objectives and then die so friendly KROMDRON units within 12" gain a grudge mark.
>>98850816Also I'm your High Kyng now. I know you never heard of me before. Grungni himself chose me, you know.
>>98852831Hygh kyng*
>>988528312+tough set a fluff review of the tome in record time, apparently the dwarfs haven't had a high king at all since the age of myth, then when the khazalites began marching out of their hole to reclaim the ancient karaks they got back to a very important one, reclaimed it, then were about to lose it again to a huge attack of skaven, the retreat was sounded, the dwarfs were going to leave the place again, instead this guy went "fuck it we ball" and stood his ground, killed the named verminlord at the head of the assault, and reinvigorated the morale of the dwarfs that let them push back the skaven against all odds.grungni was impressed and appointed him as high king, as kind of a public statement about this being the kind of qualities he wants in rulers: legs too short to flee.
>>98852881>kharadrons: libertarian capitalists>zharrdrons: authoritarian capitalists>grimmdrons: authoritarian communists>kromdrons: libertarian communists
>>98852886god I hate these names besides kharadron. Feels so halfassed and bolted on.
>>98852649Am I missing something? Isn't she just normally available?
>>98852881I hope that if the KO die, that they die properly and not be kept half-dead like my poor Fyreslayers.
>>98852898When it released they did everything to hide her from all the pictures, then she went straight to online only so kids wouldn't have to see it in stores. And now we only get fag shit like this instead of cool gore.
>>98852831Could be worse, Ogres just had their established character murders to promote their literally who
Hjulda in brief>orphan of unknown ancestry adopted and raised by Valankrom>only clue to her past is a keepsake talisman with a special rune on it>searching for the talisman's rune in recaptured holds, so far with no success>gifted a tome of lost holds taken from a Thorgrimite temple by Valankrom>goes around reclaiming holds in the hope that she'll find her clan
>>98852915>Valankromkrom dron brom vrom FUCKING STOP IT ALREADY
>>98852912>GutbustersI don't care. I ride and die for BCR.
>>98852915
Another boring mystery box character that will never go anywhere
>>98852905It's slaanesh, you can't really complain about "fag shit".Besides yea of course they're going to hide it from little timmy, but you can still just get it.
>>98852929Yes I can. Hellraiser is made by a gay degenerate based on his experiences but it's still cool bodyhorror instead of just fag shit.
>>98850823Now post panel 2 where the loomie bonks the chorf into the ground like a looney tune
Saardron rajholds
>>98852905The release before this: Also just a gay man. Somehow they refuse to do female models, they can't even do androgyny well.At least the Lord of Pain had some self mutilation going on. Slaanesh has been made as safe as can be since then.
>>98852941I do have this.However if current trends hold we might yet see the cow elves get squatted from the army as well.
>>98852920>language has related nameswow
>>98852956>landrom haron readrom nadron>wodrom
We need to go back.
>>98852963>bloodletter and chaos spawn are the sole survivors in this art
>>98852963We really don't.
>>98852965...the dracoth front and center?
>>98852980Whoa I didn't know they still sold Vandus.
>>98852968Yes we do because I want warscroll battalions back
>>98852988that's just regiments of renown
>>98852988Fyrestoooormhttps://youtu.be/aRvg4HAWuPI
>>98852982I don't even think that's vandus I think it's the generic lord on dracoth, though it's a bit hard to tellIn any case both are still sold (for now)
>>98852952That would be moo-sic to some people's ears for sure
>>98853003I think it's supposed to be considering the context.
>>98852912That guy was a literal who be real
>>98853095He was a literal who with a gimmick about gold substituted by a literal who whose gimmick is being a woman.
>>98853120Akshually morga's gimmick is having a fuckton of kids
>>98853120Thostos Bladestorm was more of a character
>>98853139I still miss him fuck Archaon
Can someone explain why 9/10 leaders post 2nd ed in aos are women?
>>98852886ImoKO - >Lib Right (duh)Fyr -> Lib Left (weird spiritual commune)HoH -> Auth Left (proletarian factory dictatorship)Khaz -> Auth Rigth (traditionalist monarchists)
>>98853199To demoralize you and turn you into a femboy Do we have nothing better to talk about or do than be a poor man’s /40kg/ rn
>>98853199example?
>>98853209New kharadron seriesNew ogorsDawners triumph box artCities battletome artFreeguild gallants/grenadiers/steel helms boxart and default buildThalia vedraPontifex zenestraFucking everything
>>98852965Chaos chosen and sce angels still exist and got refreshed models
>>98853242>new kharadrondo you mean drekki flynt?or dagnai holdenstok?i assume you dont mean brokk since he has been around for a while. who are you referring to exactly?
>>98853242Actual retard whose complaint, which you keep bringing up, is that leaders like the COS Steelhelms (?) are women but completely ignores chorfs skaven KBs. Literally no one cares about your opinion, we don't care the first time and we care even less the more retarded your allegations get, like using battle line as an example of a faction leader
>>98853264I think he means the captain from the new WH+ animation. But frankly who cares.
>>98853247What do I care about completely different models replacing them?
>>98853199Let's check the named characters:-not counting random anniversary characters or underworlds or black library any other non mainline stuff-counting orcs and gits as male even though they're technically sexless they're clearly male gendered (only ends up mattering for droggz and trugg)---3rd edition---->yndrasta (f)>gobsprakk (m)>skumdrekk (m)>bastian (m)>krondys (m) (do dragons even have sexes? same orc principle applies though)>karazai (m)>awlrach (m)>lady of vines (f)>brodd (m)>eternus (m)>ivya volga (f)>trugg (m)>tahlia (f)>zenestra (f)>ionus (m)>belthanos (m)>ushoran (m)>gormayne (m)>sekhar (f) (where did this character even come from she's randomly released at the same time as FEC)>krethusa (f)>abraxia (f)----4th edtion----->vizzik skour (m)>krittok foulblade (m)>tornus the redeemed (m)>droggz (m)>vhordrai (m)>felgryn (m)>urak taar (m)>gelgus (m)>belga (f)>foulhoof (m)>festus (m)>crixxit (m)>jorvan (m)>erasmus (m)>morga (f)>grell (f)>redd (m)>ma maegran (f)>hjulda (f)>high kyng whatshisname (m)>fyreslayer pity hero (lol) (m)For anyone keeping score that's 29 guys to 13 women, or a ratio of about ~70% guys and ~30% women. There's also iridan and mathaela who I think are considered genderless, though I would consider them relatively male and female coded respectively.
>>98853312>For anyone keeping scoreIt's really weird to treat the gender ratio like team sports.
>>98853312both iridan and mathaela are women and evidently so
>>98853328>draw girl>call it a boyThey just keep doing it!
>>98853343>>call it a boyThey're not calling it a boy, they're calling it token gender diversity
>>98853327It's an expression esl-kun
>>98853312>has to count all monsters as "male" to debunk itLMAO
for fucks sake who let the tatertots in this thread?
>>98853095>>98853120Worse than that, he was a lazy copy of Greasus from Fantasy. He has to go, he was a placeholder with no future
>biggots see african-american women in their power fantasy and freak out about da joooznothing new here
>>98853370Is this supposed to mean anything if you’d be crying if GW said the monsters were women?
>>98853370Cope
>>98853384Next wave when we need more cav Also why the fuck doesn’t GW make bit boxes anymore. SCE and CoS would be undisputedly kino with them
>>98853380the problem isn't that he's gone, but that the replacement is more boring than the placeholder
>>98853393Just admit that it's 100% cuz she's a woman
>>98853392>SCEI rember
>>98853399This was so fucking funny
>>98853397The most important thing in a game about models is that the model looks coolRandom fat woman does not look cool. Especially not as THE faction leader.
>>98853397But it's not, it's cuz she's nothing more than just an ogre womanThe maneater special character is also a woman but at least it's a maneater leadbelcher in a status quo where maneaters and leadbelchers are no more, so she's got something going on, even if it's bittersweet
>>98853404I think she looks cool now what
>>98853416Your opinion is bad and irrelevant and you should not be allowed to vote.
>>98853416Just admit that it's 100% cuz she's a woman
>>98853412I thought her whole thing was the last generation of Ogors were jaba the hutt like pussies too busy luxuriating rather than being out there eating and killing everything in sight, can you point me to the page in the battletome that just says >womayne
>>98853370The only monsters (in the non-humanoid sense) there are the dragon princes who are still sentient and still referred to as he.Trugg has more of a case because while troggoths have sexes they're basically animals so it doesn't really matter. But still; even if you don't count these three the ratio is still 2/3 dudes 1/3 women.Even if you wanna get *really* anal and exclude orcs/gits/skaven you still end up at like 20 dudes to 13 women.
>>98853420It’s a fat ass ogor on a big ass rhino that’s pretty cool
>>98853430>I thought her whole thing was [being a normal ogre amongst completely unseen ogres that presumably behaved differently in the background as placeholder]wowno, really, you would only have a point if the one she has wasn't the characterisation of ogres as a whole, she's not special, her family wasYou should understand how this is not a good idea for s special character
>>98853433I asked you about morga, not the normal ogre tyrant, why do you find her cool in particular, other than the fact she's a woman?
>>98853443>normal ogreNormal ogres think you’re supposed to keep fighting until you become a fat lazy bastard she thought you’re supposed to keep fighting until you become a fat angry bastard instead of lazing about. Are you dyslexic by chance? How is that the same thing
>>98853312noooooooo, my chud incel grifter narrative!!!its falling apart!!!!
>>98853448She think ogor tradition is gay and instead of complaining about it she killed the symbol of it and said it’s time to fucking kill while being on a big rhino
>>98853449>Normal ogres think you’re supposed to keep fighting until you become a fat lazy bastardNo, they don't, that's never been the characterisation of ogres.
>>98853454>look at my big strong queenslay woman
>>98853454>ogor traditionlmaoso she's special only because you lobotomised yourself to think ogres were never like this before herbrave
>>98853462Overtyrants aren’t characterized by being super fucking fat and fed by their armies instead of their personal actions? So Greasus too fat to walk and rich enough to spend a considerable amount of time souring discord and confusion amongst enemies wasn’t the template for an overtyrant? The lore blurb for tyrants doesn’t talk about how Overtyrants expect tribute and worship even from tyrants? This blurb right here doesn’t talk about how Morgs only uses religion and prestige as means to an end instead of ends to a mean? Overtyrants are not usually personally active at all and has been a consistent theme throughout Ogre history. The whole point is to be the biggest fattest wealthiest bastard not actively showcasing ogor strength and growing fat off of contracts
>>98853471Yeah man Greasus was totally running around stomping cities flat I agree that’s super true
>>98853412I actually like her schtick of having a million kids and grandkids and using them as a spy network / soft power and whatnot.Of course this doesn't translate on the model which just looks like every other ogre. Even the generic tyrants (on foot and on the rhino) have this problem, but for her it's more pronounced because she's the faction leader.Like redd actually looks different and interesting even if you take him off his buggy. Morga just has a mace she can't hit anyone with and a slightly pointier hat.
I feel like we entered a bad timeline with the release of Broken Realms: Kragnos. Nothing's been quite right since.
>>98853484>Overtyrants>>98853493>Greasusgreasus is the atypical one, all the other ogres are "ogor tradition", she's not special compared to her faction, her fucking father was
>>98853499Time to mark Aosg complains about Kragnos off the bingo card
>>98853484This only ends up supporting that she's just a tyrant (female) in charge instead of an actual overtyrant.
>>98853507I think it’s pretty stupid to have an atypical character be the representative of a faction and even stupider to think Greasus isn’t the template
>>98853289They are the same warscroll, the same unit, in the case of the Chosen there are no significant design changes. In fact, the chaos chosen in the picture you linked looks MORE like the current champion of the chosen unit both in terms of war gear and pose.
>>98853515Which part did you read that at and can you show me Ogors that explicitly shit on all aspects of current ogor life so they can kill and eat more shit?
>>98853484Between this and Grell I can’t wait for the maneaters and mawseekers to go to war. It’d be a more interesting visual split amongst models than BCR was
>>98853471>>98853462Geeasus was called shockingly obese (formal title) and did not walk. How is this revisionist of ogre culture that status leads to laziness?
>>98853516>woeking thia hard to defend gw woke shitHope you get paid
>>98853543It’s so funny how you guys can never actually defend your opinions and always have this jaded “ugh woe is me” gay ass tone to your posts cause you’d rather defend being mad and upse. People can’t have a different thought either, if they don’t fit in your hugbox clearly they’re being paid. Just gay and low effort, why don’t you go make a thread on the board to complain about it? I’m sure you’ll find people who agree woman bad I’m just one guy who read the Tomes and army books disagreeing with you don’t kys
>>98853516I think you're pretty stupid to think that, and aren't actually thinking at all, but just being argumentative for the sake of arguments and defending a bad character just because you think your opposition is hitlers or something.Special characters are meant to be exceptional, special, otherwise there's no point in them.Her mount isn't special, we are only told it is without it looking any different from the other mounts; her equipment isn't special, we are only told it is without it looking any different from the others we see; her philosophy isn't special, we are only told it is without it sounding any different from what has always been the case for the ogres we see.In practical terms she's just an ogre tyrant, but a woman, that we are told to accept as the exceptional and revolutionary top dog when she just looks as a normal example of the faction.
>>98853564>Special characters are meant to be exceptional, special, otherwise there's no point in them.If you’re autistic maybe, the point to “special characters” is the fact that they’re easy representatives a faction and the distilled essence of them and parts of their culture. The day you show me another overtyrant special character that was an equal to Greasus with as much lip service and lore he has I’d believe this. >Her mount isn't special, we are only told it is without it looking any different from the other mounts; her equipment isn't special, we are only told it is without it looking any different from the others we see;Wow sounds like she’s a representative of her faction instead of a Mary Sue why i am supposed to be mad at this again ? >her philosophy isn't special, we are only told it is without it sounding any different from what has always been the case for the ogres we see.Is that why the tome makes it explicitly clear through written word and opinions that Morga thinks working for other people, a cornerstone of the ogor culture, and their religion, is gay as all fucking fuck? When has that been a common trait in ogres? The highly spiritual and ritualistic psychopaths who literally ate and destroyed parts of entire realms following the rumblings of their bellies and words of their priests? >In practical terms she's just an ogre tyrant, but a woman, that we are told to accept as the exceptional and revolutionary top dog when she just looks as a normal example of the faction.You constantly repeating this just shows you have no fucking idea what’s in the battletome or anything about ogres that you didn’t learn from a total war warhammer lore video
>>98853563>>98853580calm down lmao
>>98853530>can you show me Ogors that explicitly shit on all aspects of current ogor life so they can kill and eat more shit?if by "current ogor life" you mean what morga stand for, then that was glittermaw, if you mean what glittermaw stood for, then that's all of the normal ogres ever.You would have a point if ogres normally looked like city ogres and maneaters and only morga and her close followers went back to the previous look, but this is not the case, she's "special" only when you pretend that doing what ogres have always been, done, and looked like, for 20 years, wasn't the norm.But it was.
>>98853564>Special characters are meant to be exceptional, special, otherwise there's no point in them.Eh, to an extent, but not always. There's really nothing special about the 50 or so named space marine characters in 40k with models for example. Like yeah they've all got their stories and all, but they're not subverting the space marine trope or anything. It's fine to have a character that's pretty much just a regular leader. Plenty of examples of those across 40k, fantasy, aos, etc.Also in the tome I never really got the idea that morga was this crazy exceptional leader. She beats and usurps her father yeah, but she would have been killed herself if it wasn't for redd's intervention. As for the ogre cultural revolution that seems to be mostly spurred on by redd, of which morga is a pragmatist ally that clearly doesn't give that much of a fuck about all the RETVRN nonsense as long as she gets to be in charge of the meatfists. She very much struck me as one overtyrant among many.
>>98853541Greasus was an actual SPECIAL character, do you understand that? he was atypical, exceptional, an extreme, not what ogres normally are, or look like, or behave like.You cannot say morga is special by not being like greasus when was special for being that way to begin with, you circled back to making morga be a normal ogre, that's not enough to be a special character in a faction of normal ogres.
>>98853585When did Glittermaw say to reject modernity and religion? The same guy who would pay Fyreslayers to kill his enemies and against all known ogor behavior also actually paid them instead of eating them, that guy? The guy whose lore says he rose to power though being a mercenary and later encouraged more mercenary work to make the meatfists the most powerful and rich tribe? That guy? >You would have a point if ogres normally looked like city ogres and maneaters and only morga and her close followers went back to the previous look, but this is not the case, she's "special" only when you pretend that doing what ogres have always been, done, and looked like, for 20 years, wasn't the norm.But it was.I agree all Ogors hated mercenaries and overtyrants were personal warmongers on the path since their first army book
>>98853593>Greasus is special because he’s super fat and lazy and she’s special because she’s angry and not lazyWhy am I supposed to be mad again
>>98853605Because imaginary vaginas
>>98853580>If you’re autistic maybe, the point to “special characters” is the fact that they’re easy representatives a faction and the distilled essence of them and parts of their culture.No, it's not autism, you're simply wrong, that's not special characters are for, that's what characters are for, SPECIAL characters are to be exceptional one way or another, morga is only special when you gaslight yourself to think ogres were something fundamentally different than what they have been all this time.And you know you're gaslighting yourself because on one end you're defending the fact she's not special, making her representative of the faction, and that by being exceptional she would have been wrong, conjuring some absurdly fake dichotomy; and in the very next sentence you're grasping at straws to find ways to support how atypical she actually is, and you only can manage to get close to that by grossly mischaracterising the rest of the faction.I keep repeating the point because you're so dense you keep missing it.
>>98853605>she’s special because she’s angry and not lazyshe's not special, because that's the normality for ogresjesus christ, read.
>>98853619> SPECIAL characters are to be exceptional one way or another, morga is only special when you gaslight yourself to think ogres were something fundamentally different than what they have been all this time.I don’t know man you could just read the battletome do you need a link to one? >And you know you're gaslighting yourself because on one end you're defending the fact she's not special, making her representative of the faction, and that by being exceptional she would have been wrong, conjuring some absurdly fake dichotomy; and in the very next sentence you're grasping at straws to find ways to support how atypical she actually is, and you only can manage to get close to that by grossly mischaracterising the rest of the faction.>no arguments >no proof>no sources Ok>I keep missing the point because I cannot engageOhhhhhh got it
Gw shills are fucking retarded
>>98853624I’m still waiting for you to show me the normalcy of Ogors thinking their entire current hierarchy, religion, and way of life is gay and should only serve their personal growth and showing that ogres are the strongest>ummm sweetie despite that being a recent development it’s actually always been a thing so much so that I won’t post any examples I’ll just keep saying it’s true Ok thanks good talk
>>98853604You're doing it again.In the first paragraph you're arguing that glittermaw is special for mercenarism, trade, and diplomacy, and in the very next you're trying to say that was the norm for ogres anyway.You're hypocritical and arguing for the sake of arguing.
>>98853630First of all I’m done entertaining your cope Glittermaw a character who didn’t appear in a single campaign, novel, or fucking short story isn’t special let alone a character. He was less than a nobody, less than a character than C-tier SCEs literal who’s who had entire campaign and character arcs, rules, and stories. His entire existence was to say “mercenaries fucking rule I love getting paid and killing” and was a bargain bin by the books ogor. Nothing made him special other than being successful and look where that got him. if this is your criteria for a special character that is below pathetic. I would fucking laugh at someone who said Arkas Warbeast or my actual boy Lord Imperius was special characters and THEY have more to them than this random literal fucking who that I’m supposed to buy is integral to their faction makeup? And the integrity to that makeup isn’t even what you think it is so it’s pretty impressive that a special character could be so special that he’s not only irrelevant in the grand scheme of the game itself but barely relevant in the narrative of its own army. He didn’t even introduce the great secret to Ogors what makes him special if thinking your entire culture should change isn’t special? The fact that he was named? Don’t put this loser in the same breath as a chad like Dakkbad Grotkicker. Instead of bitching about a literal who why don’t you bitch about actual characters who have anything going for them besides being the most generic possible concept you could come up with and call it special because you’re so used to getting literally nothing
>>98853629>should only serve their personal growth and showing that ogres are the strongesta completely alien and unprecedented mindset for ogres, no you're right, they were totally always very selfless and never about "might makes right", that was never a key phrase in their introductory book, and at no point it ever focused on stuff like contests of strength and big names for showing they're the strongest.not at all, you're right, morga is the most unique ogre character they've ever got because she has this mentality
I'm starting a Clan Moulder army focused on Rat Ogors - 18 of them to be exact. Is there any point in taking any non-named hero other than Master Moulder and Grey Seer?Secondly, am I seeing it wrong or is Thanquol’s Mutated Menagerie much better than Fleshmeld Menagerie in every scenario even if I don't field Thanquol?
>>98853630You seem to think “known for” and “characterized by” = special you are actually retarded my fault also are you ever going to show me ogres who hated this? I have an access to a large database of tomes and army books which book or tome or page should I go to?
>>98853563>pretend to not understand argument weasel through every debate until people get tired of it and tell you to fuck off>heh guess I win another debate sóyjak.jpg>do this for years and pretend to be confused as to why no one will engage with you in good faith anymore
>>98853651nta, but you can write paragraphs of cope if you want, Glittermaw even as his status as a battletome lore only character was still twice as interesting as Morga, who has literally nothing going for her.
>>98853682Cities of nigmar
>>98853651Glittermaw was special because he was the absolute top dog of the faction, AND because he exemplified and supported an exceptional part in ogre behaviour.Morga exemplifies the normal baseline of ogre behaviour, and is only in charge because glittermaw is no more, and someone else helped her.If even a non-character like glittermaw is more special than morga, and if you weren't a hypocrite, you wouldn't be defending morga to begin with.
Who invited destiny to defend morga?
>>98853669I’m still waiting for somebody to show me an ogre to look at their entire superstitious culture and great secret and say it’s gay cringe and a detriment before Morgs. But this doesn’t exist I even asked ChatGPT since AnonGPT’s database is broken :(
>>98853682You assume he was starting with good faith to begin with
>>98853676>You seem to think “known for” and “characterized by” = specialWhy would someone be known for, or characterised by, something that isn't actually different from the norm?(you) aren't called anon the retarded faggot for being exactly as dumb and exactly as much of a faggot as all other anons, you are dumber than them, and a faggot even compared to them.>show me ogres who hated this?can you? even morga doesn't actually hate mercenaries, she uses the other special character just fine, she has no strong convictions as a character, she's not special.if anything it's redd who has convictions and is leading the ogre's cultural narrowing.
Nta but neither glittermaw nor morga seem that exceptional to me honestly>pre 4th edition tomeSome ogres are pure might make rights retards, some are more capable of let's call it statesmanship and mercenary work and whatnot, with greasus being one such ogre running a primitive kingdom with tributes and tolls and shit. Probably the most "diplomatic" tyrant, but not the only one.>post 4e tomeRedd has his little spiritual awakening and wants to retvrn to great maw worship and none of this sissy diplomacy and mercenary shit in favour of just killing and eating anyone who's weaker.Morga makes an alliance of convenience with this guy. She's one of many of these more "animalistic" tyrants, less interested in empire-builsing, but again far from the only one. Also, just likes unga bunga ogres existed in the days of greasus, there still exist plenty of more diplomacy minded ogres and larger tribes.Tldr both flavours of ogre (and everything inbetween) always existed. Previously the most well known one was camp A, now the most well known ogre is camp B. Both camps still exist.
>>98853747Oh also should reiterate that morga isn't nearly as zealous about this whole maw bullshit as redd is, and is clearly only really aligning herself with the religious movement out of realpolitik.And while she doesn't do much diplomacy with the other races she's very much involved in all kinds of politics and subrerfuge with the other ogre tribes, mainly through her vast network of kids.
>>98853716morga isn't the character you think she isshe went to grab a glutthorn because it's ogre culture and she is using that specific mace specifically because it's ogre culture not to mention she's working closely with the main religious leaderif she hates superstition and ogre culture and religion, then she's either retarded or powerless about it, so she's not doing anything as a character
> stay tuned to find out what’s on offer for Warhammer Age of Sigmar and Warhammer: The Horus Heresy.We know one box is sylvaneth. Place your bets for the other boxes.
>>98853806>we know one box is sylvanethNo? We have the leaked boxes already>SCE>NH>StD>IJ
>>98853813Those could be EoE boxes, though they are larger than normal I would expect as much given GW pump out multiple rounds of battleforces for 40k
>>98853806HH gets boxes? Did this happen last year?
>>98853384>african-american women>in a fantasy world without Africa or America
>>98853894AoS is a continuation of WFB and WFB is just Earth, which includes Chinese people, Germans, the French, Indians, and Africans including pygmies. The dominant political power at the time was the Empire. Therefore, black people in Age of Sigmar should be African-Imperian. Another acceptable term is Sigmarite, such as 'anyone have tips on doing Sigmarite skin tones' or 'My steelhelms are urban youth from the Inner City of Sigmar'. Additionally, there are regional dialects where some Sigmarites leave the R off the end of Sigmar.
CoSTahlia Vedra, Lioness of the ParchFreeguild Cavalier-MarshalFreeguild Cavaliers Freeguild CavaliersNurgleHarbinger of DecayPox-WretchesRotswordsPutrid BlightkingsSloven Knights
>>98853863No, I think this is the first time an SDS game is getting a Christmas box
>>98853863Chances are it's custodes anyway, so it's basically a 40k box
>>98853199>>98853312It’s good to have a count of it like this>>98853384Trying too hard
>>98852945dedicated to a poster here! >>98852958sounds like a certain other language
>>98852936Also a rather neat precautionary tale which I feel is another aspect of Slaanesh >>98852948Damn that’s plain and boring
>>98853499That’s just your imagination but something does feel off for some reason
>>98852963What’s the mount that Stormcast is riding?
>>98853454im not saying you’re wrong for liking her but phrasing it like this probably isn’t conducive to convincing anyone else
>>98853509It's not Kragnos, it's everything turning to shit with 3e/after Kragnos.Though Kragnos was still very disappointing.
>>98854062Dracoth
Man u guys really like talking about gay shit like elves ogres and dwarves when you should really be talking about cool based shit like Khorne blood and skulls
>>98854062>I share the thread with anons who don't know what dracoths are, let alone what terror they've caused over the yearsThat hurts.
Every time I wake up there’s always 100-200+ posts and text walls arguing about something here
>>98853712that midget couldn’t defend his high school lunch
>>98853756>>98853494What does Ogre espionage even look like?
Are either of the Orruk spearhead boxes worth getting? They both look pretty meh
So where are our battleforce boxes? Do we need to wait until next week?
>>98854062A light mirror of a a StD lizard.
>40K battleforces>5/7 boxes are just marines of some descriptionAs much as I like to bitch about AoS, at least we're not 40K.
>>98854181I thank god every day for not making me a marine piggy.
>>98853682Man GW's incredibly racist.
>>98854144They're both decent if you're looking to get into the army, but battleforces are better deals if you can track one down for the original price.Like the Ironjawz one gives you one of every unit except the pig riders. Not exciting, but a great way to decide if you actually want to paint a full IJ army.
Are we going to get a Stormcast battleforce? or nah?
>>98854156I think so, I wanna say there was about a week delay between AoS and 40kek last time they released battleforces. Kind of unfortunate timing because dwarves just came out they're probably not getting one until they've cleared stock on the FOMO box.
>>98854285yesannihilators, annihilators, annihilatorscelestant, relictor, carthalos, praetors
>>98854285probably not. Skimming through WarCom, it looks like it's been a while since they got a battleforce box, and considering the new edition is around the corner, they're probably just going to be in the next big box for that because it's always stormcast in the starter boxes.
>>98854290Could get a fyreslayers based box
>>98854321oh yeah, technically they could get a mostly fyreslayers box so they can clear house on those to prep for the subsequent edition where they drop them entirely.
>>98854321Anon they're already putting all their remaining models in a spearhead.
>>98853399We laugh but that iconography was awesome.Still, modern stormie shields are pretty nice too.
>>98854335them just not reusing the terrain and endless spells is a dead giveaway the faction as a whole will be squatted as soon as 5th launches
>>98853960>>98853894Actual retards
>>98854156I checked their fb and it has people asking the same thing. Instead of plain answering if the announcement will be made tomorrow the WH account just responds "keep your eyes peeled" or "later" or "soon". I suspect they actually don't know.
>>98854113THEN FUCK OFF
>>98854156yes
>>98854174That’s a really unfortunate acronym…
>>98854364no, the removal of endless spells and terrain makes sense because they'll want to put out new ones that fit the overarching faction and not just fyreslayers. No other factions have multiple terrain pieces aside from formerly orruk warclans, which is a dual build kit anyway. I still think they plan on eventually dumping fyreslayers, but I think they would have done this regardless
>>98854378>>98853584
>>98854435>I still think they plan on eventually dumping fyreslayers>I still think they'll not have slayers in their nu-dwarf armyBrother, even Votaan have their Slayer/Berserker wing. What causes this derangement?
I just realized the last release for mainline Soulbound was Ruins of the Past in 2024. Sure there's Champions of Chaos but that's intended for a different mode of play, so not exactly mainline.
>>98854181I know it's silly to expect amything else but normal marines in one of these boxes seems kind of pointless when you just had a starter box release a few months earlier with like 70% the same stuff.
>>98854444I'm sure C7 will announce something in their upcoming production update
>>98854435>No other factions have multiple terrain piecesogres doand it's not as if the battleforge is that unfitting for the faction as a whole, it's a generic forge with a generic dwarf face and normal tech gubbinsyou could paint it a different way and easily say it's representing gazul or thorgrim or grungni
>>98854444They know they're getting rugpulled by gw killing the setting.They didn't even want to do that rpg to begin with.
>>98854441They dropped the fyreslayers main battleline unit and most of the heroes, they are not long for this world. Sure, they'll probably keep around Gotrek and a random unit or two, but unless every new person who buys into KH gets a magmadroth, I don't see them keeping fyreslayers around.
>>98854468>ogres doNope. They squatted the camp, kept the maw pit.
>>98854468>ogres doAnon...
>>98854481check the store, it's still up there
>>98854480>They dropped the fyreslayers main battleline unit and most of the heroesThey dropped the least liked Fyreslayer unit that already had a replacement in the Warcry band and the first wave foot heroes. >unless every new person who buys into KH gets a magmadrothMore likely than you'd think, with the new spearhead. >they are not long for this world.Utter nonsense. GW already turned them into Slayers-lite, except Fiery and 5% less suicidal, which sucks, but they have zero reason not to keep them around.
>>98854492Check the Legends Rules and their expiration date.
>>98854480I know doomerism is in vogue right now but I don't think they're going anywhere.Fyreslayers were not popular enough to be their own faction. Now they could've tried to expand them in an attempt to revitalize the faction, but they decided thet might as well take the opportunity to put a unit of "regular" dwarfs in the game which people have bitched about since day 1.Fyreslayers are now a subfaction within this larger dwarf faction, so they're not beholden to the same sales expectations anymore. They're comfy right where they are.>but vulkitesAs you said they're battleline which doesn't really fit with their conceptualization as a relatively elite subfaction anymore. Also as mentioned basically got replaced by flameseekers. Same foes for the heroes going by the way, a subfaction doesn't need 7 of those.Besides, if they were going to squat them in the foreseeable future I don't think they would've bothered with the new named guy.
Anyone happens to have a personal White Dwarf trove or has a link to one? I'm working on a 1st edition Battle Bible and I want to include White Dwarf content as well. I need all the issues from July 2015 (Issue 75) to May 2018.
>>98854413Cowards prefer S2D.
>>98854474Outside of WFRP and Imperial Malidictum, I don't think C7 wanted to do any of GW RPGs
>>98854144Can’t speak for KB but the Ironjawz one is good. You can make use of every unit in the box in a full army
>>98854497>They dropped the least liked Fyreslayer unitOnly by people who didn't play them anyway, nor would they ever have so their opinions are irrelevant.>already had a replacement in the Warcry band and the first wave foot heroesAh I see
>>98854578Anon, when you have a product that doesn't sell the people that DON'T play the army are exactly the kind of people that gw will pay attention toVulkites being kind of shitty was one of the main complaints about them for about a decade now.Will many of those people complaining about them and clamoring for regular dwarfs to return actually buy those regular dwarfs? That remains to be seen
>>98854543I have 1-399Speaking of which, look at which dweeb I found.
Throne's kinda small actually. Magmadroths aren't that big.
is the king on foot a character or just generic? Also is the character dualbuild?
>>98854693Generic. The throne is dual build, female foot hero is monobuild.I happen to be watching the stream right now, it's funny seeing a mixed reaction but utter disgust when the valayans get showcased in the chat
>>98854664Yeah it's smaller than you'd think I wonder about the price. I'm guessing something like festus?
>>98854747Come on now, you know full well the price will be absurd.
>>98854752Eh it’s probably similar to the helsmiths Taurus
>>98854650Would you be so kind to share them?
>>98854765
Hey guys, it’s clear that the frigate seen in the *Arkanaut* series is larger than its miniature model counterpart. So, my question is: what are its exact dimensions if we consider that size to be its official size?
>>98854578>Only by people who didn't play them anyway, nor would they ever have so their opinions are irrelevant.I've played Fyreslayers since 2018 and the Flameseeker Warband are LITERALLY just better Vulkites and have been since the day they dropped. The lost heroes are also mostly just replaced by newer heroes, with the notable exception of the Runemaster (Makes a good Flamekeeper Proxy but no super priest in the army anymore does suck) and the Battlesmith, though frankly GW hasn't known what to do with the Battlesmith for two editions now, they didn't have the balls to give him his old +1 save aura back and his replacement rules were always trash.
>>98854664It makes sense. Anything made for Dwarfs is always smaller than you'd think because they're dwarfs, they're fucking tiny.
>>98854693Foot king is generic heroBoat can be built as either named guy or generic heroFoot woman is named hero
Um bros?
What if duardin were joined by huardin and gnuardin in a grand pan-manlet alliance?
>>98854831They're getting souped with KH in 5th edition, so they don't need a spearhead.
>>98854831>€125There was a brief period before 2020 when low cost of entry was a selling point of the game.
>>98854543gofile.io/d/A2FO7c3There are all AoS white dwarfs until march 2026. if anyone can give me the rest, i'll add them.
>>98854867You are my hero Anon, thank you. Time to continue my pointless work then.
Is there a comprehensive lists of City of Sigmar color schemes?
>>98854950We know it as the battletome(s).
>>98854838Finally Hashut gets to be on the Plinth again.Hashut plinth upgrade kit.
>>98854650I didn’t expect lookers but jeez…
>>98854650Thought that was Mike brooks on the bottom
>>98854975Don't insult those people like that
>>98853813Were those actually credible though? Far as I know some anon pulled them out of his ass.God I want a HoH box with Urak Taar.
>>98854978Oh. Yeah hes a brit, got that fat fuck phenotype. Thought he was a twig.
>>98855010They were leaked with 40k boxes that were confirmed today.
>>98854978There really is a whole other world out there...
>>98855055Oh well more time and money for other projects then.Have to say last year's battleforces were getting ridiculously pricy as well.
>>98854953Yes but a comprehensive list would be helpful if it exists.
>>98854978Everytime I see a photo of this he somehow manages to look more and more parodical
>>98854831Could see them getting their SH replaced in the end of edition campaign.
>>98855088What you see is what you get when it comes to CoS, no?
>>98855165I just bought my first, hope I don't mess up by not getting a second now.
>>98855169Each city has specific colors though. Even if only maybe 3 stand out the most.
>>98855165>>98855171You guys really don't understand the difference between temporarily out of stock and sold out?
>>98854243(here’s why that’s a good thing)
>>98855177It's the placeholder until they remove something. Best case scenario a reboxing for change of an edition or something.
>>98855198No? Temporarily out of stock means the product is still being sold but they have to print more. Sold Out Online means they either reprint the product with new rules/in a new box or remove it from their range.
>>98855177GW doesn't use them consistently, is the thing. And there's been a lot of random Spearhead switchups this edition, so it's not an implausible idea.
>LGS had 3 boxes in store, suddenly jumps back up to 8Wonder if some scalper gave up lol
>>98855177I feel like I recall some instances of temporarily out of stock boxes leaving. I certainly remember the opposite example, where a sold out online box just returns
>>98854474>rugpulled by gw killing the setting.I wonder if the sudden scare in gw's stonks was because clueless stakeholders got made aware gw is going to "end" one of its main IPs
Final rat ogre painted
>>98855173Yeah but I mean all the important ones are featured in it, right?
>>98854794it's almost identical, what are you talking about? It's at most, 10% bigger, there's enough room on the gangway to fit multiple arkanauts behind the railing. I wish they weren't so slavishly devoted to the accuracy and went bigger to really sell the whole "crewmen on a flying ship" vibe. As it is it doesn't feel like a larger military vessel, more like a small boat you would use to take your friends out for a day on the water.
>>98855350But I don't have prominent enough examples on hand of them all painted.
>>98855310Shareholders don't gaf about anything not named 40k. Wasn't it more because of gw's retail and online sales lagging behind or some shit? I didn't read the report I'm only going off what I vaguely remember secondhand here
>>98855345Forgot image lol
>>98855345>>98855378Sweet anon, looks pretty coolThese are the skaventide ones right? Do they have any options?
>>98855351It really is a lot bigger than the model. Perhaps still not big enough but the difference is there for sure.
>>98853813>>98855010Worth noting that boole also leaked the other two boxes (we're getting 6 this year apparently) today; nurgle and CoS.Cos is tahlia + 2 cavaliers + the marshalNurgle is harbringer of decay (lol), + pox wretches + rotswords + blightkings + sloven knights.
Blight kings are good now with their soa profile right
>>98855491Damn, still cucked out of bvlls
>>98854578Playing, painting, and looking at a model are all 3 different things man
>>98855518Oh they unfucked them? Didn't even know they had a SoA, good for them
This thread has been claimed in the Name of Imperius
>>98855630Who are the Hammerers Draconis?
>>98855667Extremis Chamber of Hammers of Sigmar I forget if they’re the first one of the host or the most lauded
>>98855345Eshin?
>>98855789Lel
>>98855610They got this instead of whatever shit they had before.I'm still eternally seething they can't just be bumped up to 2 damage and go back to the decent save. But Rotswords I guess so fuck it.
>>98852649>>98855541the good stuff always gets cucked
>>98855491>boole.Lmao.
>>98855830They really should have had this to start with, no clue why they didn't honestly. Genuinely think they may just have forgotten.>>98855895Are we still doing this meme?
>>98855437If I remember correctly they have some helmets they can have instead of exposed heads and a few arm/weapon variations. Sadly only one model can have a warpfire cannon.
>>98854354My favourite one was the one where the shield was shaped like the meteor trail. I forget what the stormhost was.
>Finally start to paint my Ogors>Few hours past and my arms getting jittery, I'm light headed, and feel weak in knees>Assume hungry and eat>Try to finish second layer of skin>Arms still feel jittery, weak in the elbows>Have to stop as I don't know what the fuck is happeningWHY IS MY BODY FEELING LIKE THIS?
>>98856004You might be deficit in some vitamin.
>>98856004do you shave your minatures or have an open pot of tamiya you're either high or you got sinus issues
>>98856004Open the window
>>98853682You could paint all of these as white and have it look fine except middle, top, and maybe top left
>>98853682The one on bottom right is also shown example as an old white man holding a flag in one of the cavalier pictures. Kinda neat how they show this stuff painted in different ways.
>>98856016Which Vitamin?
>>98856000Celestial warbringers, yeah it's pretty cool though still probably not worth it I still have one of these which I got secondhandThey really should have put some unique weapons in there, as well as some other bits
>>98856090I dunno. I'm no nutritionist.
>>98856017>Shave miniaturesNo?>Open pot of TamiyaJust a pot of Kislev Flesh to refill my palette.
>>98855491>Cos is tahlia + 2 cavaliers + the marshalFUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKI ALREADY OWN A TAHLIA THIS IS USELESS TO ME FFFFFFUUUUCKKKK
>>98856329you should buy it, and then sell me the tahlia.
>>98855491damn that Nurgle one sounds kino actually. Harbinger is probably the best model in AoS, not sure why you're laughing out loud at him.
Finally making progress on my Slann, and satisfied with the look I have for the chair so far before I go in with gold and finer details in the wood.Main thing I've been thinking of so far is deciding a color for my skinks. Maybe a yellow/blue color scheme?
>>98856329Think about the bits I guess
>>98856370pink/green
>>98855491>CoS is literally just 4 modelsAin't no way. Should be at least 5 cavs + 1 more random hero OR unit.
I kinda wanna run an AOS ttrpg campaign. I know soulbound exists but uh, is it any good? Or would I be better off just using another system for it?
>>98856535when is Sigmar getting his own model?
Man I fucking hate how good maggotkin got dealt with the Celtic/knight theme with their revitalization. The rumored battleforce for maggotkin sounds good and it’s tempting me but I already have a tzeentch army for chaos. God I wish tzeentch was a finished range so I wouldn’t be tempted by actually competent ranges.
>>98856558>Maggotkin - Celtic>Slaanesh - Hindu>Tzeentch - Mayan? >Khorne - Aztec?
>>98856569Tzeentch is supposed to be egyptianKhorne would be GREAT as Aztecs but all we get are discount world eaters
>>98856588It’s leaning more Arabian I think in aos. Who knows though.
>>98856557Good question. Kinda weird there isn’t one
>>98856615The excuse is that he's too strong but I mean Morathi, Kragnos, Nagash, & Alarielle get one. It's not like GW cares about rule consistency with lore either.
>>98856627It's not that he's too strong, it's that he's only able to be in one place at once and he's too much of a barbarian lover of combat to avoid getting stuck in even when it's a retarded idea
>>98856648They could find a way to make it work easily from a game perspective. Even if it requires giving him some lightning range ability to make him not just a bonkbarian. They're just too lazy to try.
>>98856627Morathi is canonically bitch-made and retarded tho.
>>98856557why doesn't the emperor have a model for 40k? Same thing.
>>98856659Yeah but she's still technically a god.
>>98856715She's a weak-ass god that has to rely on being a backstabber.
>>98856729But a god regardless.
>end up on GW instagram for some reason>comments on anything aos are full of tards going "YOU NEED TO MAKE MORE STUFF FOR DA OLD WORLD IT'S BETTER" I think one of the funniest parts about this is how much many of them expose that they really only know it because of Total Warhammer, because the setting isn't called 'the old world', the Old World is the not!Europe. The idea of the whole setting being called the old world when it wasn't old until AOS would be very funny though.
>>98856806It's sad and hilarious that those comment sections are filled with either those kinds of people, Space Marine paypiggies whining about why they aren't talking about Space Marines again, or the rare useful question.
>>98856729Wasn’t that her thing in fantasy too? She’s strong but at her best when not fighting directly
>>98856557Only if the plot requires it—which it never will—because the guy is simply too powerful to actually do anything in the story. If he were to suddenly show up on the scene, Archi and Gorkimorki would stop playing hide-and-seek and start wailing on him—and, obviously, both (or all three, it makes no difference) would lose. It’s the same deal with the mummified Emperor from Warhammer 42,000: the guy, just by possessing Guilllermo during the "Covid" wars, was able to solo Mortis and trim the hedges in Nurgle-chan garden—and yet, the bastard still chooses to do practically nothing the whole time.
>>98856904Tbf, we see Khorne idly corrupt entire fleets during arks of omen by swinging his sword once. Emprah had to do some crazy accidental trojan horse to damage Nurgle's garden, and it seems the chaos gods are holding back in real space since they don't want to flip the table
>>98856004How old are youWhen was the last time you got checked for diabetesWhat is your blood pressureHow often does this happen Do you check your pulse at this time, do you have palpitationsDoes this happen at specific times of dayLess likely to be a vitamin. More likely to be blood pressure or sugar. Possibly thyroid
>>98856679Not the same. The emperor is much less of a dude with a hammer than Sigmar. The emperor could reasonably project his power in multiple places at once, he's like a chaos god. Sigmar doesn't have as much metaphysical presence, and the emperor doesn't have as much physical presence.
>>98856969Sigmar's strongest soldier.
>>98856969
>>98856558
>>98856806glad someone here noticed as well lol since gw is on a nostalgia wave they will likely listen, and i hope that it blows up in their faces. nostalgia pandering is such an abomination to any hobby or media imo
>>98856806>because the setting isn't called 'the old world', the Old World is the not!Europethat doesn't come from total war, it comes from not having a better name to refer to the world than the old world when aos came around, even people who know it's technically a misnomer used it anyway.nobody is calling it the world of legend, that's fucking gay, and if you want something total war did is trying to canonise the name "mallus" for it.
>>98857175Dunno what that retard is on about, the name of the current rank and flank game is the old world, therefore if someone wanted more minis for that game then of course they'd use the current name that is printed on the rulebook and boxes. Honestly sad to see the steady decline in the quality of poster here over the years. There used to be a much better ratio of non retards to seethers.
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>>98857175Mallus comes from a 2015 White Dwarf explaining Sigmar referred to the core of the world as that, and then TWW3 said Be'lakor named it that.>>98857183They specifically call the setting "The Old World", and they're usually referring to wanting animated content for it, and usually say "Gotrek and Felix", who aren't born in the time of The Old WorldTM
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>>98857218>then TWW3 said Be'lakor named it that.that's what I was saying, nobody used it to refer to the world until total war tried itit's a gay name anyway
>>98857215I guess one day you wake up and commit to being green hair cone head guy and then just follow through. At some point it becomes kind of based
>>98857243He makes the most annoying warhammer fans seethe so I appreciate him. But his writing is mid, so I do so from afar.
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>>98857215Such a tool>>98857249He makes everyone with a brain seethe no one likes the guy
>>98857265At least learn how to properly link previous thread>>98857348 >>98857348
>>98857003>>98856989>>98856969>>98856558this is why they’re the best
>>98856904>>98856914Yeah, the circumstances surrounding his use of Guilliman were exceptional, it’s not just something he can choose to do on a whim. It’s less that the Gods are holding back and more the vast majority of their attention is focused on fighting each other. While Sigmar is obviously powerful it’s not like he’s unmatched, something big enough needs to happen to justify him doing something.
>>98857265>>98857352>no page 10boooo
>>98850945>(I’ve been mistaken for greek/Mediterranean or Persian a lot).cracking me up here man
>>98855207Oh good guess we're safe then.
>>98854378nah he’s right the explosion at certain times is annoying
>>98850945>They also were unironically all white worshippersThat's most of Asia and the third world in general. Probably for the best.
why is this edition so ass?
>>98856362>damn that Nurgle one sounds kino actually. Harbinger is probably the best model in AoS, not sure why you're laughing out loud at himI confused him with the rotbringer sorcerer, my bad. Who isn't a bad model just felt very strange considering the rest of the box. The harbringer is great.
>>98857398its the paint by numbers edition. 40k got the same thing in 10th. instead of writing bespoke rules for each army, they wrote template generic rules in a separate document, copy and pasted them all over the place, and just added that armies flavor text to it. somewhere around the middle of the edition they seem to have begun to course correct and are now writing more interesting rules, but the damage is already done
>>98857778>roll a d3 and if it's a 2+ do that much damageare they that scared of someone using a once per turn army ability to do guaranteed 1 damage?
>>98857398>why is this edition so ass?You can ask this about any major GW game right now. And the answer is chasing the tourney scene.
