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    >What's Trench Crusade?
    An indie wargame with World War One holy crusader vs forces of hell dark fantasy vibes.

    >How do I get started?
    All the files are free online:
    https://www.trenchcrusade.com/rules/

    Old TC mega:
    https://mega.nz/folder/70QH0BBa#Eg-blxYQKkY_C02wErnFTQ

    >third party sources for making trenchers:
    https://pastebin.com/YzXPVUAc
    Vote with your wallet in protest against so many promises walked back on instead of using the official plastics.

    >Trench Companion, warband builder and campaign tracker
    https://trench-companion.com/

    >Previous Thread:
    >>98768430
    >>
    Are there any plans for 6mm/10mm scale wargames in the TC setting?
    >>
    >>98847551
    >plans for TC
    Lmao lol even
    >>
    Anyone itt telling you to make your minis grimier or dirtier or cake on more and more shit when your minis sufficiently and objectively reflect the TC aesthetic are no better than american blacks who can’t taste anything, can’t hear anything, and can’t see anything unless it’s extremely overdone or exaggerated - this is why their “culture” centers around excessively seasoned/hot food, loud music that is nothing but simple beats, and fashion that is literally bright bold solids bordering on neon not to mention shiny diamonds and gold. They can’t do nuance or subtlety or have complex thoughts because they literally cannot perceive reality on a level that isn’t super obvious. In summary, anons telling you to add more effects are spiritually American blacks.
    This is why they can’t enjoy sipping fine liquor, the actual taste of steak, the dignity of non-attention-seeking clothing and hairstyles, or listening classical music. All these things are beyond their ability to even perceive. So the American black, so too the no-games TC fanboy who are “regulars” at their local game store.
    >>
    >>98847551
    Nigga we don't even know what their plans are for plastics, or rules refreshes, they aint saying shit. But also no.
    >>
    Plastic Black Grail when
    >>
    >>98848337
    They are in the next 2 player box that's coming next year, it's going to be Black Grail vs Sultanate.
    Source: my ass
    >>
    >>98848088
    They already have your money
    >>
    Gay woke shit
    >>
    >>98849993
    Eat a gun homo
    >>
    I hate how astroturfed this stupid game is.
    >>
    >>98847156
    Creators are on record saying there is no good or evil (in a game where one side are literal demons from hell) and are terrified of upsetting islamists to the point they are dindus. And they appealed hard to the competitive 40k market.

    Why would I play a game by such spineless cowards?
    >>
    >>98850202
    >Why would I play a game by such spineless cowards?
    Because you can own the 40chuds amirite? :^))) This game *women*!
    >>
    >>98847641
    >TFW no plans for a TC RPG

    Feels bad...
    >>
    >98850202
    >98850206
    Gays Wokeslop shills
    >>
    >>98850317
    You can dislike GW and TC both, you know.
    >>
    >>98850407
    Anon I think you wrote that 'n' sideways.
    >>
    >>98850206
    Only r*gerians post that way anon. How many kapeikas is your bot paying you?
    >>
    >>98850210
    Be the change you wish to see anon
    >>
    >>98850210
    It would be fairly straight forward to convert Never Going Home.
    >>
    Thoughts on the warband? Also, what do you guys use for a tank palanquin?

    ## Trench Ghosts? In this economy? ##

    Faction: Trench Ghosts
    Rating: 699 Ducats | 0 Glory
    Patron: War Priest Charon

    ## Elites ##

    Heretic Priest - 193D
    Battlekit: Grenade Launcher, Sacrificial Blade, Tank Palanquin

    Barbed Wire Banshee - 138D
    Battlekit: Sacrificial Blade, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

    ## Troops ##

    Heretic Trooper - 40D
    Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle

    Heretic Trooper - 42D
    Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle, Bayonet

    Heretic Trooper - 42D
    Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle, Bayonet

    Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 122D
    Battlekit: Automatic Shotgun, Bayonet, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

    Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 122D
    Battlekit: Automatic Shotgun, Bayonet, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

    ## Stash ##

    Stashed Ducats: 1
    Unspent Glory: 0
    >>
    >>98851132
    >>98851006

    My thought was to modify the YZE version of T2K in some way.
    >>
    >>98851222
    Priest is too expensive for a 700 ducat army, it weakens the rest of the warband
    >>
    https://www.trenchcrusade.com/trench-wire/community/trench-crusade-faithful-victory/
    The event ends in faithful victory.
    Cursed be the slaves of yhwh.
    >>
    >>98851222
    >Take the sacrificial blade off the priest. A hammer is good enough for now.
    >autoshotties are for scrubs who need help aiming, not your anointed
    >consider a few wretched with a butterknife early on in the campaign. You can sell them back at full cost later
    >>
    What’s the status of Venice in the setting? I was looking at the map and it seems like it was wiped out, but I just want to make sure.
    >>
    >>98854493
    All we know is Eligos specifically took it with his mechanical armies and War Cardinal Domenico Alidosi wishes to reclaim it.
    https://www.trenchcrusade.com/lore/war-cardinals/
    >>
    >>98854414
    Scoreboard CharonRats, Franz Ferdinand will guide us to Byzantium, also RIP cyprus you will not be missed.
    >>
    Played an intro game last weekend to get a mate up to speed with the new rules, was heaps of fun. Court vs Heretics, the court spanked on VPs
    >>
    How many shotguns is too many for a warband? Between the two Stosstruppen kits I have 5 and 3 flamethrowers, and I will be mainly facing Black Grail
    >>
    >>98851337
    It's just that I wanted to have a palanquin right away, how would you arm him? Even without the palanquin I mean
    >>98854443
    Something like this?
    ## Trench Ghosts? In this economy? v2 ##

    Faction: Trench Ghosts
    Rating: 698 Ducats | 0 Glory
    Patron: War Priest Charon

    ## Elites ##

    Heretic Priest - 180D
    Battlekit: Grenade Launcher, Great Hammer/Maul, Tank Palanquin

    Barbed Wire Banshee - 138D
    Battlekit: Sacrificial Blade, Reinforced Armour, Trench Shield

    ## Troops ##

    Heretic Trooper - 42D
    Battlekit: Bolt-Action Rifle, Bayonet

    Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 135D
    Battlekit: Grenade Launcher, Great Hammer/Maul, Reinforced Armour

    Anointed Heavy Infantry (Trench Ghost) - 125D
    Battlekit: Flamethrower, Reinforced Armour

    Wretched - 26D
    Battlekit: Trench Knife

    Wretched - 26D
    Battlekit: Trench Knife

    Wretched - 26D
    Battlekit: Trench Knife

    ## Stash ##

    Stashed Ducats: 2
    Unspent Glory: 0
    >>
    Help me /trench/, I'm going to a tournament in less than 2 months, I need a good tac list so that I can paint it and play it a bit before the event, what would you suggest?
    >>
    >>98850202
    DESU, literal demons from hell being morally grey is something that dates back to Milton and Paradise Lost at least, if not further back.
    >>
    >>98859306
    Don't expect these kinds of people, the kind that would be infatuated with 40k slop, to be well-read or be able to comprehend anything outside of very trite, simplistic and just plainly childish moral zeitgeist
    >>
    >>98860266
    I.e an average /pol/ chud
    >>
    >>98860266
    >>98860292
    nta but you really going to say demons from hell are nuanced.
    No wonder you nazis support islamofacism
    >>
    This fag really is a 40gurgler desu
    >>
    >>98860266

    Only retards who read the beginning think paradise lost has morally grey demons.

    Satan and the others are petulant assholes that revel in the fall of man and reject multiple chances to atone out of vanity and pride.
    >>
    >>98860730
    touch grass and take meds
    >>
    Playing in a campaign right now, I'm rocking knights of avarice and my chorister rolled a patron skill. Can I use Money Can Buy Anything to have another Machine Armor? I've got it with Corrupts Merchants.
    Also, Book of Golems in the Rare Locations table:
    >You can purchase Battlekit for it in the Quartermaster Step, using your own Armoury Tables instead of the ones in the Iron Sultanate Faction List.
    plus up to 50 ducats in formulas.
    If I give him Seal of Solomon, would it be able to use items from both Knights of Avarice battlekit and Equipment from the Iron Sultanate, meaning mainly wind amulet and medikit?
    >>
    >>98849993
    May we see it?
    >>
    >>98850202
    The completely free lore on the TC website makes it very clear that the demons of Hell are irredeemably evil, making particular note of Beelzebub and Moloch. It also states that those heretics who believe they are not fighting for evil, but rather for freedom, are entirely deluded by the various tricks demons pull on them.
    In short, you’re an ignoramus retard.
    >>
    >>98847156
    TC has lost momentum sadly. Also no one gives a fuck about prussians, sacred affliction and raiders, everyone wants multi part plastics of the main 5 factions, not the subs. A winning move would be to allow people to "build a box" by choosing individual models and bits in an order to build their warbands or help kitbash their sub factions, kind of like how you can buy individual Lego bricks and build out your "build."
    >>
    >>98864695
    Idk, people at the flgs seems pretty happy with new stuff, you might just be chudding out
    >>
    Companion anon here, as we're all aware there was a big PHP update yesterday. We've still got some problems in a few regions. I've been on call with our host's support team, it is a known issue that Wordpress (where our data is stored) is having trouble in some regions and that this has been reported by a lot of other sites.

    So bad news is I can't do anything myself to fix it right away. Good news is that some people are working on it as we speak.
    >>
    >>98864851
    What new stuff?
    >>
    >>98864695
    It's odd the focus they're putting on the Prussians. I don't dislike them at all and the models in the Carcass Front are my favourite they've done so far (picrel) but TC feels so aimless/directionless since the launch I really don't know what their overarching plan is. I hope the pace picks up at some point but I suspect they're lacking some sort of soulless corporate aspect to whip the flighty artists into gear and get them to hurry the fuck up.

    >>98862841
    But anon you don't understand, one guy made an ambiguous statement in a discord server one time.
    >>
    >>98847156
    Isnt this that WOKE game?
    >>
    >>98864695
    >>98865926
    The Prussians suck.
    >>
    >98866866
    You need to be 18 to post here, bud. Come back in 5 years.
    >>
    >>98866872
    I'm going to be honest, I also think they suck. I'm a black grail(durge)/antioch(alba) player and it's weird to me that they are shilling them so hard. Haven't actually played the game in ages to be honest. Also the main fan discord (previously known as the official discord) is so trooned out I had to leave. I tried to ignore it but jesus fucking christ those people are insufferable. Saying all this, I'm frustrated because I actually like the game and lore, it just now feels like the company is meandering around aimlessly being retarded. Had no interest in carcass front in the end because the models did not interest me.
    >>
    >>98867018
    >Also the main fan discord (previously known as the official discord) is so trooned out I had to leave.
    It's pretty bad. The most annoying thing is how they do this
    >Guys no politics allowed, we can all agree on that right? Noone wants politics in their games
    >btw nothing we believe in is politics :) It's just all "human rights" and "out identities" so we can spam tranny shit as much as we want
    it's such obnoxious faggotry that every not explicitly-RW space does now.
    >>
    >>98867056
    It's a shame because I like the game but that shit puts off normal people. Haven't been able to find a sane place online for TC that ain't a graveyard but I haven't looked recently so who knows. Was in the process of building my OC doughnut steel dirge executor (fallen Slavic princess) but it's now on my pile of shame (in spirit, didn't buy the bits I needed in the end). Plus I don't like working with resin. Don't know why, just don't like 'em. Makes me want to start painting them again.
    >>
    >>98867085
    Sadly I think the devs took too clear a side too early to try and muster up any non-tranny movement now. Maybe in a few years someone can try to start a normal TC community and build some momentum.
    >>
    >>98866866
    That's funny 'cause i have heard a lot of potential players getting put off by what they perceive as alt-right themes. And that's from people who regularly play Warhammer 40K.
    My guess is the connection between american christian nationalism/chrsitian extremism and the various alt-right movements it has seeped into.
    >>
    >>98867056
    >>98867154
    And here we see the Duality of Man, everybody.
    Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. Whatever you do you will drive away certain groups.
    >>
    >>98867154
    Giving the benefit of the doubt to you that you're being sincere but that sounds like those people are massively retarded as the themes you've listed are clear from the outset of the game. Like saying you know a group of people put off by beef stew because they realised halfway through eating it that it has beef in it, and "that's coming from people who eat beef burgers".
    >>
    >>98867194
    >>98867154
    My guess would be that those kind of people can suspend their disbelief for Necromunda because it is so sci-fi-y but can't for Trench Crusade because it is more realistic and set in an alternate earth while still being fantastical.
    >>
    >>98867203
    Ah yes I see. I guess the game isn't for everyone but I stand by the themes being clear from the outset. If you don't like those themes then fair enough, don't eat the beef stew.
    >>
    Why do people love to troll in this thread?
    Is this trolling deserved?
    >>
    >>98867244
    Because it's easy and you get big returns.
    >>
    >>98865926
    I'd assume they are blocked by Archon that can barely manage their current tiny range. Pretty much everything is constantly out of stock
    >>
    >>98867244
    Mentall illness and lack of parental attention
    >>
    >>98867244
    >Why do people love to troll in this thread?
    There are many reasons. I can name some:

    There was a time when anons had to carefully post when talking about Trench Crusade because of janny bias in defense of trench crusade. Even sincere posts got the hammer on them. Anons had to talk like voicing an honest opinion on plebbit but afraid of getting downvoted.
    Thee trolling is "revenge" because post sharty hack the biased janny might be gone.
    I don't know why the janny defense of Trench Crusade bias is still denied to this day, but I guess telling a lie long enough will make it true.

    Holier than thou hipsterism because not Warhammer is a big one. This coupled by the unprofessional siding of the inq28 mods also blew the lid up. "We don't care lmao" when called out on banning on vibes and not actions basically sums up their mentality and TC team still sided with them.

    TC has betrayed its founding selling points after the big kickstarter payout. The plastic Prussian prices not being competitive was the first big sign. More has come out.
    >>
    >>98869204
    NTA, but you need to fuck back to your contaiment thread.
    >>
    >>98869248 (me)
    Case in point with the boogeyman thing that >>98869204 proved correct.
    In my honest opinion I think the zealotry in defending TC and the terminally online spergs that will defend TC to the death even after all that has happened from FFI is another reason trolls come here. The "zealots" for lack of a better term see trolls and their enemies in every post. And genuine posts talking about concerns for Trench Crusade before the info came out got branded as trolls. I think those posts that were not intending to be trolling hit harder than actual trollposts and the reactions that the zealots had to those anons that were not intending to be trolls made real trolls look at the Trench Crusade general here as a nice spot for doin' a lil ebic trollin. I'm surprised a bingo card hasn't been made yet about how the few TC fans left on this site react to anything. It might be just one persistent guy who created the stereotypical responses to any posts whether they're trolls or imagined trolls. Or a group of anons. Either response is still sad.
    >tinfoil hat theory
    Those posts are made by trolls that come here to larp as the zealous fanboys of Trench Crusade to attract more trolls and /trench/ is just a vortex of trolls trolling each other and larping as those they want to troll to life support this general. Could be an elaborate act from /awg/ers to keep Trench Crusade autism off their general.
    >>
    >>98869248
    >I think the zealotry is sunk cost fallacy in action somewhere in the stages of grief as it seems the denial part is still there.
    Its marketing. TC was pushed here by the marketing team of Reforged Studios, the international game marketing investment firm, Thomas' employers. They would have bought a mod or janitor, couldn't have cost much they already do it for free.
    Anons were copping bans for green txting
    >grimclusive
    It was blatant enough it bothered autistic anons who will now troll forever because it was an astroturf and that in and of itself is a problem enough for them. Then the culture war stuff stacked ontop of that.
    >>
    The 40slop schizo is talking to himself again
    >>
    >>98869385
    I am not familiar with Reforged Studios. I know Tuomas worked at Ubisoft from somewhere I read so maybe their shit rubbed off on him. It is morbidly fascinating that my stuff in >>98869308
    has already been proven correct by the post below your post.
    Maybe it is a troll larping as a zealous fanboy. It doesn't matter in the end as any conclusion is still a sad one.
    >>
    >>98869448
    Thomas is co founder and
    >chief creative officer
    of Reforged Studios, they've been outsourcing and leveraging marketing to gaming companies for over a decade. TC was very astroturfed. That's their job.
    >>
    I like Prussians
    I like Sacred Affliction
    I like Black Grail
    I like Navy Raiders
    I like Lust Court
    That is all
    >>
    as someone who's trying to get into TC, there arent that many "battle report" videos that arent +4months old. how out-dated if at all rules wise are these videos?
    >>
    >>98869308
    You ironically prove that the jannies recognizing that TC threads were going to be troll farms after the Arch incident and dropping hammers down was in fact the objectively correct choice.
    Just like how years ago the mods dropped hammers on Homestuck threads, furry threads, MLP threads, and anyone that posted those things was good as gone.
    Now, you dont see those things being posted the way they were spammed, in some cases decades.
    Especially since there are incredibly obvious, repeated troll lines that are spammed 50 times a thread. But for some reason, you think trolls being banned is... bad? Because this site is for trolling?
    >>
    >>98872152
    The rules have no changed overly much.
    Mostly small point costs, none of which radically change the game. The bones are still there.
    >>
    >>98867085
    The trick to enjoying any nerd hobby during this tranny occupation of our hobby is to only play with friends, and gatekeep your social group from freaks.

    I'm just starting to get my TC stuff built, got some sweet Abyssinan dudes ready to stab demons with swords. Game looks fun, lore is neat, trannies on the internet can't take that away from me.
    >>
    >>98872568
    Sadly for me I live in bumble fuck no where so rely on things like table top sim and internet communities to play regularly so tend to be at the whim of the troon brigade seeing as how I can't find any populated non-troon communities online.
    >>
    >>98872413
    >Disingenuous troll poster trying to pretend to fit in
    >>
    >>98872755
    Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained as ignorance.
    >>
    >>98872811
    NTA
    The cool thing about contemporary social media prevalence, predation is that its often both! You don't have to limit yourself like that. It can and will be simultaneously bad faith actors trying to take your money and idiots saying crazy shit non-stop.
    >>
    >>98872755
    >>98872811
    >>98873306
    >troll posts being deleted on sight is bad
    >knowing shitposts are going to increase because of e-celeb melty is something to be ignored
    >jannies NOT keeping up the banhammer has resulted in TC general being virtually unusable and kept up almost exclusively on troll posts and bait
    So the current state of the thread could neither have been predicted, nor prevented!
    >>
    >>98876373
    What are these flags even trying to achieve, I wonder
    Is there seriously nothing going on in their lives that shitting up a thread for a tiny wargame on a dying chinese basket weaving forum is worth their time?
    This has got to be some kind of mental illness
    >>
    >>98876497
    fags*
    >>
    >>98876373
    >>98876497
    >everything I disagree with is trolling!
    >noticing things is mental illness!
    lol get over yourself.
    If the game is going to be astroturfed on 4chan it has to accept the possibility it will get noticed and laughed at. Should have been obvious to them if they hadn't been total corporate drones.
    >>
    I finished the armoured fighters for my Swiss Guard. Way too bright and shiny for the trenches, but I still like them like this.

    >>98856976
    Looking good!
    >>
    >>98859306
    Believing Satan is morally grey in Milton just makes you a retard. Dude's epic quest is literally to immiserate everybody because he's a sore loser.

    I suppose it's possible you aren't retarded, just evil ...
    >>
    >>98848088
    If you're expecting more major releases after Carcass front, I got bad news for you son.
    >>
    >>98870540
    Funny how he always bragged about "TC had no traditional marketing"
    Its a freudian slip in a way. He knew full well TC was astroturfed to the gills that fucking slimey cunt
    >>
    >>98877776
    Anon you haven't been following the news have you? Are you perhaps a tourist?
    >>
    >>98877827
    You have been psyoping this misinfo for many threads now yet you have zero proof to back up your shitposting with
    How much are they paying you anon?
    >>
    >>98872413
    >you think trolls being banned is... bad?
    Your post proved that poster correct in his denial and downplay spiel. I'll assume you're being genuine and not a troll to make trench crusade fans look bad. Banning trolls is good. Banning innocent posters who voice genuine concerns over the state of Trench Crusade is not good. But it doesn't matter now as it has been exposed as a grift.
    >>
    >>98877563
    Nothing a bucket of nuln oil/engine grease can't fix desu
    >>
    >op image
    Can we play the pigfuckers yet? I could do with painting some porcs
    >>
    >>98878249
    Yes, Black Grail with Antipope of Avignon as a patron. Can give a character Swine Hybrid because the antipope married and fucked a bloated and diseased pig (see: OP’s mom) to seal his pact with Beelzebub. The banner pigman and candle pigman are both on etsy, I ordered them but they won’t be here until mid November.
    >>
    >>98877563
    these are great and a quick 50/50 black and umber oil over these would come up so well once you sponge it off.
    >>
    >>98870540
    >it's a random picture with no actual evidence episode
    Weird because Thomas isn't registered as a director for the company now or ever....
    >>
    >>98880054
    Weird because he gets interviewed as being the CCO and lists it on his facebook page and the company put him forward several times.
    Why are you liars like this? Do you think it helps your game?
    >>
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    >>98878081
    >zero proof
    lmao this is desperate. The DARVO makes it very obvious, you're better off just owning up to it but that style of self promotion is too chud coded for your ideological side so it doesn't work. You always have to lie and deceive.

    Here's your boss's boss's boss getting a 30 million dollar capital investment.
    https://investgame.net/news/reforged-studios-mep-capital-backs-30m-platform-build-in-independent-gaming/

    https://www.reforgedstudios.io/news/reforged-studios-secures-30-million-strategic-investment-from-mep-capital-to-accelerate-gaming-ip-platform-strategy
    >>
    Now that the dust has settled, why did TC fail?
    >>
    >>98877827
    >no traditional marketing
    What is traditional marketing?
    >>
    >>98877288
    >kept up almost exclusively on troll posts and bait
    >next 10 of 18 posts are troll/bait posts
    Someone should do what they did to the sexy games general and spam threads until the entire topic is permabanned on /tg/.
    >>
    >98878086
    >concern trolling now
    >grifts now have physical books, miniatures for sale, and associated media
    >>
    >>98881574
    There's someone on staff who approves of the game. So its highly unlikely.
    >>
    >>98881574
    >what they did to the sexy games general and spam threads until the entire topic is permabanned on /tg/.
    Lewd's been a thing for ages, what are you talking about?
    >>
    >>98880775
    >>98880798
    They're different companies you actual fucking retard. The logo, website and incorporation date for the holdings company should have clued you in, let alone the website that literally shows the senior leadership team. Tuomas isn't associated with them, he is however the director of Factory Fortress funnily enough. Reforged Studios is a failed corp for a failed kickstarter. Reforged Studios Limited is a videogame corporate shill company.
    >>
    >>98882016
    >the company with the same name and same mission statement is totally a different company
    lmao you have to translate their linkden from fucking finnish you absolute sucker.
    >>
    >>98882088
    What missions statement? The other companies website no longer exists and again, he isn't on the board of directors at all, never mind as the """""founder"""" you dumb ass.
    >>
    >>98882274
    They both specifically are about broad market enhancement for videogames. This isn't complicated.
    Old link that's harder to find
    https://www.pocketgamer.biz/how-to-get-a-job-at-netease-backed-helsinki-startup-reforged-studios/
    Note they're the specifically Net-Ease funded.
    >>
    Oh look, same company!
    Reforged Studios did acquire Headupgames and was Net-Ease funded. Funny that.
    >>
    Oh what's that?
    >In the early days of the company, the CEO was Teemu Vilen.
    Whole game has been astroturf side gig for the guy working at a multinational AAA video game marketing company.
    >>
    How much are they paying this faggot to psyop
    Jesus Christ how many threads have been shat up
    >>
    >>98882378
    >so btfo by the reveal you have to sage your own advertising general
    get wrecked
    >>
    >>98882311
    >>98882336
    My guy I don't know what to tell you, Tuomas is not a founder or even part of Reforged Studios Limited. Reforged Studios in Helsinki went bankrupt in 2020 and ceased trading in 2021. Maybe Reforged Helsinki phoenixed into the other one but Tuomas isn't a director for it.
    >>
    >>98882352
    He does look like a villain you'd order off of Temu.
    >>
    >>98880003
    Huh. I imagined they would be an army variant. Very well then.
    >>
    >>98882465
    Not your guy fucko.
    Read what happened and figure it out, its not rocket appliances. They got bought be an even bigger company that does the same shit.
    None of which would prevent the atrotrufing regardless given Tumoas' background and the he was deeply involved in AAA game marketing for over a decade.
    >>
    >>98882531
    Right so... he isn't the founder or a director or affiliated then. Good to know thanks schizo. He used to work at games workshop as well oOooOo spooky.
    >>
    >>98882521
    I’m huffing hopium here, but I’d be surprised if they didn’t get an army variant of their own when they get around to beefing up Black Grail’s rules like they did for Court.
    >>
    >>98882645
    Cope faggot.
    >>
    >>98850181
    >the butthurt samefags storming into every fucking TC related thread claiming it's astroturfed
    >>
    >>98850181
    Sunk cost fags going to sunk cost.
    Normal people abandon ship when a series stops having redeeming qualities or betrays their principles, sunk cost faggots don't want to admit they wasted their time and that any potential for a series is dead now.
    Ironic that TC faggots suffer from the same exact sunk cost that people sticking to modern warhammer have
    >>
    Is there much info on what's going on with Spain? I had a very thin concept for a warband.

    Also, are TC threads usually like this?
    >>
    >>98883945
    They're right tho
    Its hilarious to see the amount of cope TC fanboys have on literally any topic. They won't ever admit to anything, even something as trivial as a game being astroturfed.
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    >>98884466
    Not much. It's mostly theories and extrapolations, but a recurring consensus is that the iberian peninsula is pretty much pic related mixed with Bloodborne and more late-1800s guns
    >>
    Don't mind the troll, people. He's just butthurt he got banned from his LGS for not knowing how to use deodorant.
    >>
    >>98884466
    Toledo got rekt by Heretic artillery, but the Spaniards held them off. Gibraltar is also a Heretic navy superfortress now. That’s about all we know.
    >>98884625
    >advertising is astroturfing
    I wish your care home was more strict about your internet access.
    >>
    >>98884741
    >Astroturfing is the deceptive practice of disguising an organized, paid, or corporate-backed campaign as a spontaneous, genuine "grassroots" movement from ordinary citizens

    Thats what TC did you retard. Tuomas went on several interviews/presentations boasting about having no traditional advertising for the game, and how TC popularity was totally organic engagement from the community on social media lol. Meanwhile he was fully aware that a big driving force behind it was his own astroturf campaign.

    Then again, nobody really cares cause it happens all the time, as long as the product is good who gives a shit.
    The reason it gets pointed is out is because TC has scammed their customers and Tuomas have a proven trackrecord of lying.

    Its just funny to see tards like you deflect on literally any crumb of critcism like your life depends on it.
    >>
    >>98884800
    >like your life depends on it
    >obsesses and seethes in every single TC thread because he’s assblasted by a toy soldier game
    Methinks the faggot doth protest too much lmao
    >>
    >>98884800
    How has TC scammed anyone? Genuine question.
    >>
    >>98884828
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4t9tJSYloo
    worth a watch

    TLDR:
    Products are faulty, refuse to fix
    Broke their kickstarter promises
    DMCA abused creators making minis
    Lie about everything
    >>
    >>98884818
    No u
    >>
    >>98884832
    >Products are faulty, refuse to fix
    I got my products in a good shape and a friend who got holes in his resin mini got sent more minis
    >>
    >>98884832
    I simply do not care. I’ve had no problems with their official products and there are a gorillion 3rd party model makers that make swaps for TC. I will continue to buy.
    >>
    >>98884818
    >point out objective lies and deception by a company
    >Wow You're so obsessed why would you seethe in every single TC thread because you got blasted by a toy soldier game LOL

    Simple, I don't like liars

    why do you let yourself get willingly groomed into a compliant shillcuck by the autistic lying devs of a Toy soldier company?
    >>
    >>98884851
    >cry, whinge and shit yourself in literally every thread
    >uhhm I just don’t like liars
    Ok buddy. I get that this is your aspergic fixation, but literally no one else cares, we just like toy soldiers.
    >>
    >>98884839
    >>98884841
    >>98884876
    None of that disproves anything in the video tard
    You shills have literally no argument beyond >Don't care, doesn't affect me
    Morality: 0%
    >>
    >>98884876
    >I dont care
    >Its just toy soldiers lmao
    >runs defence in every single thread
    >Cares so little he has to lie and deflect every single negative comment

    You clearly care, tho nobody believes anything you shills say, and hasn't since the past year or so
    >>
    >>98885211
    >muh morality pls let me concern troll you saar
    No lmao
    >>98885220
    Ok little guy. Enjoy your final (You) from me, I have no interest in engaging with your retarded cry session any further.
    >>
    >>98885291
    >I have no interesting engaging further
    Don't lie Tuomas you'll be back within the hour
    >>
    >>98884832
    >JAN AND ARCH LIVE RENT FREE IN TC FAGS MINDS
    >posts an 8 month old Jan video
    Very cool. Those points were refuted 8 months ago.
    >MY FRIEND SAYS THE PRODUCTS ARE STILL BROKEN
    >THEY SAID THEY'D MAKE EVERYTHING PRINTABLE (I'm making it up hehe)
    >THEY DMCAed A GUY FOR LITERALLY COPYING THE OFFICIAL ART TO SELL MINIS! THAT'S TERRIBLE!
    Fucked up. And Tuomas eats two scoops and owns BlackRock or some other shit.
    >>
    Golden Chalice pictures from Spiel, Essen is up on TCs site.
    https://www.trenchcrusade.com/news/the-crimson-chalice-2026/
    >>
    >>98886915
    Crimson Chalice*, not golden dito.
    >>
    anons
    is this game just for tournament fags?
    ive been getting annoyed at gw focusing on that shit only
    i want to have fun and not chase some fucking meta
    >>
    >>98887245
    This might be one of the least tournyfaggable games when played as intended, i.e. as a campaign. Instead it is filled with doughnut steel fags which is at least a nice change of pace. Set up a roster of your own original characters and watch them get horrifically maimed.
    >>
    >>98857364
    Looking good.
    After playing a gew games:
    >heavy gun to the flame anointed
    >offhand weapon for the priest (maybe glory staff)
    >level up your characters and pray to bone daddy you roll double shoot on the priest.
    >>
    >>98884741
    >>98884700
    Perfecccct. I have a weird fixation on Galicia, thought their crusader origins might make for fun backstory to give to some Trench Pilgrims
    >>
    >>98886805
    refuted with what? you tards have presented zero proof that he is wrong
    genuinely be interested to see it but i dont for a second believe you have any facts in your favor or else it would already be out there to 'own the chuds'
    >>
    >>98887522
    Thank you for your tips anon, now I just need to find the right models and get to work.
    I was thinking about this guy for the priest, just using a gas mask head and a VB launcher from the WA WW1 french infantry plus the usual bones and gore to grim it up.
    For the wretcheds I'd go with the same kit, zombie heads and a drill to make them undead.
    I still haven't found what to use as Anointeds though.
    >>
    >>98887542
    One of the future factions is slated to be Crusader knights, although thats probably a year+ away so do as you please, TP/NA would work best, i think the Sacred Affliction models kinda give me an Iberian vibe, actually its just the castigator, it's the hat
    >>
    >>98888307
    That is a sick base model.
    Go for it anon
    >>
    >>98888337
    Galicia specifically has a lot of pilgrimmage spots, though I should check when they were built. I guess that diesn't necessarily affect whether they'd best fit TP or NA.

    Spain at large had period of issues with local lords raising personal armies to settle blood feuds and the like. I think there were also specific associations of villages that agreed to protect things like nearby roads or other sites of importance, but none of that specifically speaks to NA, I don't think. I guess Yeomen would literally fit what they were called, hmmmmmmmm.... I should check Galician colors
    >>
    >>98888307
    bro we got the same idea I also have the wolfenstein game somewhere for when i eventually do ghosts

    >>98884466
    TC hate is manufactured
    Anyone bringing up "massive problems" is telling on themselves as a tourist because the usual ones they brought up were either fixed within days/weeks years ago or never a problem at all
    >>
    >>98850202
    Because I'm not aware if you know this but the world of Trench Crusade is made up

    >>98864695
    You're retarded. Raiders, Affliction and Prussians are the most popular subfactions of their respective factions
    If they released plastics of the generic ones you'd be complaining that they're betraying their promise to kickstarter backers
    >>
    >>98850202
    If you don't like playing as the forces of hell you are a literal faggot. As in, a genuine faggot who probably got molested.
    Satan forever son.
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    >>98892626
    Fuck you. I only play the good guys
    >>
    >>98891676
    >Raiders, Affliction and Prussians are the most popular subfactions
    No they aren't, what proof can you show for this?
    >If they released plastics of the generic ones you'd be complaining that they're betraying their kickstarter backers
    That doesn't make sense? They can still release carcass front.
    Happy we're arguing autistically about the game and not manufactured outrage tho.
    >>
    >>98891659
    >Anyone bringing up "massive problems" is telling on themselves as a tourist because the usual ones they brought up were either fixed within days/weeks years ago or never a problem at all

    Show proof nigger
    >>
    >>98891659
    >bro we got the same idea I also have the wolfenstein game somewhere for when i eventually do ghosts
    You gave me an idea anon, thank you. <3 I don't have that board game, but I can use the power armors from warlord as the anointeds, they'd fit right in wolfenstein, I just need to ghost them up a little.
    >>
    >>98893919
    > No they aren't, what proof can you show for this?

    Companion anon here ( not to get involved in arguments but im the only person who actually has data) my player data does show prussians, raiders, and affliction are the most popular variants for their factions - but they are all second to the 'base' faction.
    >>
    >>98896463
    That's because of carcass front though (and the fact that the Prussians were the first plastic) so not a fair comparison. No one was talking about them before they were plastic, 100% with raiders and affliction.
    >>
    >>98892626
    Who won the carcass front bitch
    >>98896493
    I thought prussians were pretty popular before plastics, didnt they used to be the strongest NA variant?
    >>
    >>98894712
    You made the assertion, you idiot cocksucker. The burden of proof that the supposed issues you flapped your faggot mouth about are ongoing is on you.
    >>
    >>98898008
    I'd concede with Prussians that they maybe were, but raiders and afflicted definitely weren't.
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    >>98898163
    >TC critics: Well documented evidence of devs wrongdoings
    >TC fanboys: NOoooOOO THE DEVS SAID THEY FIXED IT!!!!!!!

    I know who I'll believe
    >>
    >>98899777
    The density of your skull is astounding. Were you dropped on your head a lot as an infant?
    >>
    >>98899853
    His brothers in Whateverthefuckistan used to tombstone piledrive him trough the kitchen table, I imagine.
    >>
    >>98899321
    oh absolutely, i'm like 100% sure that KoA and Methodius were more popular before the carcass front
    >>
    >>98884800
    >advertising
    proof?
    >>
    Let’s get back on topic here lads.
    Can you recommend good places to get miniatures of those big fat gross ugly black women with smug expressions to use in my armies? I’m putting them in prominent positions within each of my factions because in my head canon TC is a meritocracy and, quite frankly, big fat gross ugly black women deserve it for their real world contributions to civilization, technology, philosophy, medicine, science, public safety, law, and overall quality of life for all humans on planet earth.
    >>
    >>98900512
    Any mini can be a black woman, stop assuming their identity you bigot.
    Yeah, even the scenery.
    >>
    Every time this faggot gets called out he switched to talking about blacks
    Must be a redditor
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    I don't know if someone may be interested, butt TTcombat has put this guy in preorder, it kinda looks a good proxy for a communicant.
    https://ttcombat.com/collections/new-tabletop-games/products/baphrael-the-bell-crowned-vatican-pre-order
    >>
    >>98867244
    Trench crusade is like Concord in slow motion. They shit on gamers, censor political discourse for people they disagree with, and release a flawed product. Watching them go all "bioware" has been fun.
    >>
    >>98901087
    TC can't bioware because they have dimensioned their expectations after their likely playerbase. They were never going to kill GW and they know that. Anyone who claimed they would was either a retard, a liar or both.
    Bioware died because they released extremely niche slop expecting it to have a mass market appeal greater than even the best games they had ever released.
    TC knows their product will ultimately appeal to a handfull unwashed nerds and are producing product based on those numbers. Sure, the TC unwashed nerds are more likely to wear a dress and call themselves Lilith but as long as the expectations are realistic that shit doesn't matter.
    >>
    >>98899777
    >"I have well documented evidence"
    >*looks at evidence*
    >"my buddy keith said that..."

    >>98900296
    KoA and methodius were never that popular. Raiders and Affliction were considered the strongest and most played subfactions since 1.0. The one that maaaaybe was more popular was ghosts
    >>
    >>98901154
    >>98901087
    you got impatient no one was taking your bait and replied to yourself?
    >>
    >>98901556
    It's so fucking obvious too, I wonder what sort of mental illness that guy has
    I feel kind of sad for him
    >>
    >>98901548
    Fucking ghosts? Bullshit, there's like zero way the dead bitches were more popular than the golden cunts
    >>
    >>98881580 see >>98869308
    >The "zealots" for lack of a better term see trolls and their enemies in every post
    To be fair it is
    >grifts now have physical books, miniatures for sale, and associated media
    Warhammer has those things and still is a grift with their models being laughably overpriced, books, and associated media. Tuomas presented Trench Crusade as a product that wasn't going to resemble Games Workshop in their sneaky ways and they got a big kickstarter funding from that good faith built up and now they've gone and done the sneaky shit GW does all the time.
    >>
    >>98901556
    >>98902409
    Replying to yourself each time is pretty sad buddy.
    >>
    >>98903903
    Lmao get fucked fishfag
    >>
    >>98901548
    Putting your head in the sand won't make TC problems dissapear Tuomas
    We know why you respond this way its because the evidence is so heavily stacked against you there is no point beginning to refute it anymore.
    >>
    >>98904256
    >the evidence is HEAVILY STACKED!
    >uh umm no I won’t actually present said evidence…
    Lmao kys
    >>
    >>98904077
    >Doesn't know how people already know these are easily edited
    Sad.
    >>
    >>98901087
    >They shit on gamers, censor political discourse for people they disagree with
    They simply didn't create their own discord, they just used reddit community discord for TC, which is ofc moderated by woke retards. They already removed discord links from their webpage. I can't say i don't understand it tho, since you don't have to pay anything to these retards. But ofc if you want a professional, moderated community you have to spend some money, no intelligent, sane person would do that shit for free. Game itself isn't bad, i'm currently playing a campaign with 7 of my friends (i play Black Grail) and it's good enough. I didn't buy any of their products tho, and from what i understand they fucked over a lot of their kickstarter supporters
    >>
    >One retard starts obsessing over shitting up the TC thread a year ago
    >People move elsewhere to talk about the game
    >Thread slows down
    >Retard thinks the game is dead because people avoid him
    >Still obsessively refreshes the thread every 5 minutes
    >Replies to himself every other post

    At this point I've moved my TC discussions elsewhere and just come here to see this parasocial schizo have meltdowns
    >>
    >>98904424
    >links to public video that lays out all the evidence in almost hourlong essay with timestamps for each individual topic
    >YOU"VE GOT NOTHINGGGGGGGG CHUDD I"M JUST GOING TO PRETEND IT DOESNT EXIST

    Lol this is why people continue to laugh at you tards
    >>
    >>98907177
    >p-please… please watch my seething vlog :(
    No and kys
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