Welcome to Open OSR. This is a seperate thread is for open discussions of OSR, OSR-adjacent and retro games. You can talk about all OSR (Pre Wotc D&D, & retroclones) & OSR-adjacent (Mork Borg, Shadowcity etc) games without distinction here.There is a general for those who only want to talk about "first decade" D&D. If that is your preference, you can find that elsewhere.As always, report and ignore any trollingPrevious thread:>>98812951Thread Question: What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?What are your favorite Traps to use in a dungeon?
>>98834858Also Ignore the second TQ, accidentally forgot to delete it when copying template over X_X
>>98834862well what's the new tq?
>>98833508In Germany we have a decent OSR scene, but it is not all Dungeons and Dragons.A large amount of RPGs are translated into German, but English is still very useful because translations for new systems would be terrible to rely upon since they will usually come either later or never, and I hate both.
>>98834858>What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?I am very open to people playing any class they qualify for. I have always allowed Paladins specifically for that reason, even though they can be a headache, especially with new players used to 5e who make problems around alignment.
>>98834858>>98834896>How about those classes?>I let people play paladinslmao, he's just copying the same totally organic discussion from last thread now, not even trying to hide the astroturfing anymore
>>98834858I'm not against paladins, druids, and rangers.
>>98834858>Thread Question: What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?Most of those from ACKS II RR, the Heroic Handbook, and Player's Companion. I don't use those from By This Axe, not for PCs at least.
>>98834941Again with the one liners devoid of content to simulate engagement.
>>98834941How does one realistically play pally in 1E, it's more of a rare miracle unless the DM let's you get one with ability scores.
>>98835087Wow, very insightful comment. Only someone who has totally played in his life and can totally create a B/X character sheet without any errors could come up with a comment this deep.
>>98835087It happens.37.50% chance to get Str 12+.74.07% chance to get Int and Con 9+.25.93% chance to get Wis 13+.Combined together, that's a 5.33% chance, or about 1 in 20.It's the 17+ Charisma that's a doozy. Only 1.85% chance to qualify for that, which drops the whole thing to a .98%, or roughly one in a thousand.So, as long as you roll well for all the other stats and then cheat on Charisma, it's not too bad.
>>98835087Not doing 3d6 down the line. Use one of the other methods Gygax suggested for getting broken ass stats and arrange them however you want, as he also suggested.
>>98834858>What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?You mean standard 3?
>>98834858>What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?I've actually been working on a FF1 B/X game, and the current test party my group is trying out is a Warrior, a Black Mage, a White Mage, and a Red Mage.The introduction of the Red Mage is the biggest change (though the White Mage is also very different from a cleric), and I haven't had anyone test out the Thief or Monk at all, but so far it's been going pretty smoothly. The obvious synergies between FF1 and B/X are doing most of the heavy lifting.
>>98835939I think you meant .098%
>>98835087you don't
>>98835087bear in mind that adnd 1e is 4d6 drop lowest so the chances change from getting said stats in b/x
>>988371334d6 drop lowest would be:61.65% chance to get Str 12+.89.51% chance to get either Int and Con 9+.48.77% chance to get Wis 13+.Or a 24.08% chance for all 4, slightly less than 1 in 4.With a 5.79% of 17+ charisma, that turns into a 1.39% chance (about 1 in 72) of rolling a character that can qualify as a paladin, if you’re rolling all these stats in order.Out of order, it’s considerably higher odds.You have 6 rolls, and need to roll at least a 17, 13, 12, 9, and 9.Getting the 17+ with a 5.79% chance in six rolls is 30.07%. Getting at least the other target numbers is considerably easier, and totaled together comes down to 25.17% to qualify as a Paladin with 4d6 drop lowest, any order.
>>98836385Remember that D&D copyrighted octopus headed monsters but didn't copyright squid headed monsters.
>>98835087Method I in the DMG (4d6 drop lowest and re-arrange attributes at player discretion) gives the best chance of rolling a paladin, about 25%.
>>98836382Standard 4, you gameless larper.
>>98838121They also only own the name Illithid, not Mind Flayer.
Lol, the one-line same/bumpfagging is even more pathetic than usual, which is saying something. And to think you spent the entire last thread crying about how grorious your conversations would be if only nobody were permitted to point out correctly that 2e isn't OSR so that you had to write endless schizo walls of text in response! Kekkkkkk
>>98836385DQ3 had superior classes.
>>98835939>>98837539>1 in 1000 vs. 1 in 4I don't think I ever appreciated just how absolutely shit 3d6 down the line was until now. I've never liked it, particularly when someone rolled a 3 in some score like Con and would spend that entire character's short life sulking.I'm also not a fan of the kind of guys who act like they're hardcore when they do 3d6 down the line. Sure, it's a way to play, but you're still just sitting around a table pretending to be an elf, and not punching bears while riding motorcycles through burning hoops.
>>98838315Thieves were a mistake.Thief skills were an even bigger mistake. Thief skills taking the form that they did may be the biggest mistake of all.
>>98834858At no point does any part of his body come into contact with the door, he just shatters it with pure barbarian swag.
>>98838803You sound like a little bitch.
>>98838747alcoholic anime rabbit hooker
>>988388773d6 down the line is for pussies.REAL MEN don't roll and just demand that their characters have 3's in all their stats and they don't care that they don't meet the minimum for any class.
>>98838942Right on brother.Lets compare penis sizes later.
>>98838863Your DM being too retarded to handle thief skills well doesn't make them a mistake.
>>98838803my personal peeve with 3d6 is that for it to work stats need to be almost completely irrelevant otherwise a bad array ruins your character. But if they are completely irrelevant why have them? But i actually like them because they help painting a picture of the character.I also hate the way 3rd edition went where they are too important and you want at least x on certain stats for a character to even have a chance of working and not a part of who the character is.I think it's what Adnd did best compared to b/x
>>98839308>I also hate the way 3rd edition went where they are too important and you want at least x on certain stats for a character to even have a chance of working and not a part of who the character is.I hate how making a character in 3.X is like building a deck of Magic the gathering cards where there's right and wrong choices (kind of expected from WotC of all companies)Also that you can't just "be" the character you want, you have to go through the building process first.
>>98840253>3.X >Magic the gatheringOpen OSR, talk about OSRAny%Difficulty: Impossible
>>98839308>I also hate the way 3rd edition went where they are too important and you want at least x on certain stats for a character to even have a chance of working and not a part of who the character is.I kind of like how important 3rd edition's stats were. There's this very small sweet spot between levels 4 and 9 where the stats are important, but not too important like they are at lower levels and also not rendered completely pointless by all the skill points and feats and class abilities at higher levels.I think most D&D editions have their sweet spots where all the mechanics work best and the level of complexity hits just the right amount. Where that sweet spot is varies a bit according to personal preference, but I think that most people agree that playing character levels 1-2 typically intentionally suck to some degree and that at some point higher level D&D also fucking blows ass.I don't know exactly where I'd put the cutoff for when B/X starts to suck, especially because it's not uniform. I do know there's a certain point where Magic-Users can go from making the game more interesting to making the game less fun for everyone except them.
>>98840576one quarter of the game isnt a small sweet spot i think it is just hp. There is a point where the hp is just right. In b/x-Adnd i would put it at levels 3-7I kinda wish they got over their wargaming autism and gave a larger hp pool at the start and then a much smaller growth rate like 3dice at level 1 and then 1 or 2 per level depending on your class
>>98838942>they don't meet the minimum for any class.So, it's possible to roll less than a 9 in all four Str, Dex, Wis, and Int scores, and fail to qualify for any class.There's a 25% chance to roll an 8 or less with 3d6, or 1/4. Two times would be 1/16, three times would be 1/64, and four times would 1/256, which isn't actually that rare.What happens then? The character just fucks off?
>>98841460fighter doesn't have any class requirement.
>>98842378In AD&D1, it's Str 9, con 7.In AD&D2, it's just Str 9.
>>98838874
>>98842416wtf? i don't remember that.i clearly remember fighter not having a class requirement.
>>98842657>wtf? i don't know the rules of AD&D!We know.
>>98842671Fuck you I'm older than dirt.I know what i saws.
>>98842657It's pretty understandable. Fighter feels like the "default" that anyone should be able to qualify for.Though, at the same time, it would be pretty rough to play a fighter with sub-9 strength.
>>98842968I swear this was a thing in one of the editions.you'd end up with a shitton of really crappy fighters cause you couldn't qualify for anything else.I'm not crazy i swear.
>>98842990I know in 3rd edition, you needed a minimum 10+spell level to cast a spell, so if you had 10 or less in your mental stats, you were locked out of being a caster, so you might as well play a Fighter.Also, the class requirements in AD&D for Ranger, Paladin, and Barbarian were pretty steep, so failing to hit those and having to settle for a Fighter is pretty common.
>>98842990I had to double-check the books because fighters not having requirements sounds right. But nope, Gary wanted to gatekeep them behind a 9 and a 7. So it's possible to fail to qualify for any class, which feels like an oversight.
>>98842681you saws the clouds anon
>>98843112maybe it was a b/x edition, or chainmail
>>98843177Basic and B/X has "Prime Requisites" instead of minimum requirements, which give them a penalty/bonus to XP depending on how high it was, and even then Fighters still have Strength as a Prime Requisite.Chainmail also didn't have any class requirements, and really didn't even have classes, just unit types.
>>98843252now i feel like i'm being gaslit.wtf does that memory come from then?
>>98843177>Chainmail>ability scoreslmao, he's just plumbing new and ever deeper depths of nogames
>>98843280I've never played chainmail, you ass. i don't have 500 dollars to spend on a xerox printout from the 70s
>>98843266I want to just call it a false memory, but at the same time I was also thinking the same thing and I just checked all the D&D's and didn't find it. I even just checked Baldur's Gate 1&2 and both had Fighters requiring Str 9.I wonder if it's something from some D&D-adjacent game.
>>98843320truly, it is a mystery. perhaps we will never know.
>>98843320I don't suppose it was in an errata or faq?
>>98843266>>98843320It comes from being the perfect mix of arrogant and ignorant where you've never actually read the rules to the game you were playing and now refuse to accept you got something wrong the whole time.
>>98843348It's probably just something that sounds like it would be right. Might even have been a common house rule or something no one ever bothered to check or enforce because the scenario of someone rolling up a character and both wanting to play a fighter and failing to meet their requirements would be incredibly rare.
>>98843432>just doubles down lol
>>98843401I pity you young friend. One day, you too shall be old, and will misplace your car keys in the refridgerator.
>>98843444You should just ignore him. He's just trying to be a troll.
>>98843444>>98843449>Surely there must be some excuse I can grasp onto that doesn't mean I was wrong for years!>anyone who reads the rules is a troll! lmao even
>>98838747Then make a DQ game.
>>98838803I like it when people brag about how badass their games are.>"My last character died to a goblin fart so I had to roll up Bob the Fighter the 32nd">"Oh yeah? My last character encountered an Ass-rape Gorilla that broke every bone in his body and he had to spend the rest of the session in a wheelbarrow constantly begging for the other PCs to kill him.">"That's nothing, my last character realized that he was little more than a perpetually reincarnating avatar, trapped in an endless cycle of pain and death, and that all his efforts to obtain material wealth and societal advancement were simply tying him to the world and burdening his soul, with his only hope to escape the wheel of perpetual misery being to abandon all his worldly goods and the entirety of his previous identity and seek wisdom through the life of an ascetic."
>>98844082>>"That's nothing, my last character realized that he was little more than a perpetually reincarnating avatar, trapped in an endless cycle of pain and death, and that all his efforts to obtain material wealth and societal advancement were simply tying him to the world and burdening his soul, with his only hope to escape the wheel of perpetual misery being to abandon all his worldly goods and the entirety of his previous identity and seek wisdom through the life of an ascetic."then he got killed by an orc
i think it's pretty obvious that you are supposed to discard non functioning characters. maybe hand them to the dm to use them as hirelings or something.though it is not stated somewhere in the 1e as far as i remember.
>>98840736>one quarter of the game isn't a small sweet spotConsidering there's rules for going well beyond 20th level and the game turns into a hot mess past 15, it's pretty small.Though, for some reason AD&D has rules up to level 32 and then later expanded up to 100 while BECMI had rules for what happens beyond 36, when 99% of characters never got past 10.
>>98844887people didnt go past 15 in 3rd edition either and they certainly didnt go past 20 as always the high levels are both half baked and so far off that people dont ever get thereand that is true for both adnd and modern editions
How do you feel about this bit of advice from the Expert book?
>>98834858>What are your favorite Traps to use in a dungeon?I like old traps very close to the entrance that are broken and busted and completely fail, but suggest that there might be really vicious traps further in.A pit trap where the trap door is all rusted and needs to be kicked open, and at the bottom is a skeleton pierced through with needle-thin spikes emerging from the walls but most have failed to reset and return to their starting positions. A guillotine blade that drops down from the ceiling but it's so rusted and warped it gets stuck just high enough to put a nick into the top of the wizard's hat. A tripwire coated in cobwebs that fails to trigger any mechanism.
>>98846553Something players should never see.
>>98838318>Illithidetymological breakdown connecting Illithid to ἠλίθιος (ēlíthios) and ἠλιθιώδης (ēlithiōdēs):• ἠλίθιος (ēlíthios): In Ancient Greek, this adjective originally meant "idling," "fruitless," or "in vain" (derived from ήλη, meaning wandering or distraction). Over time, and into Later/Modern Greek, its meaning shifted to mean "foolish," "silly," "idiotic," or "moronic."• ἠλιθιώδης (ēlithiōdēs): This is a later compound form. The suffix -ώδης (-ōdēs) means "full of," "having the quality of," or "resembling." Therefore, ἠλιθιώδης translates directly to "foolish-looking," "resembling an idiot," or "of an idiotic nature."• -id / -idæ: In classical taxonomy and English linguistic tradition derived from Greek, the suffix -id (from the Greek patronymic -ides) denotes "offspring of," "belonging to the family of," or "descendant of."The Semantic Irony (The Etymological Connection)If we treat "Illithid" as a literal Greek derivative combining ἠλίθιος (ēlíthios) and the suffix -id, the structural translation yields:• "Descendant of the foolish" or "One belonging to the family of idiots."The Linguistic Irony:This creates a brilliant piece of semantic irony. In Dungeons & Dragons lore, Illithids are hyper-intelligent, psionic masterminds who view all other humanoid races as inferior, mindless cattle.However, from an etymological perspective, their name suggests the exact opposite. There are two ways to interpret this linguistic choice:1. The Effect on Others: Illithids do not possess foolish minds themselves; rather, they cause idiocy in others. When an Illithid uses its "Mind Blast" or devours a victim's brain, it reduces a highly intelligent creature into a mindless, vegetative, or "idiotic" state.
>>98838318>They also only own the name Illithid, not Mind Flayer.>>98838121>Remember that D&D copyrighted octopus headed monsters but didn't copyright squid headed monsters.The ilithid is just a trick to have some Cthulhu in their game by another name. Everything else like "oh no its not that" is an excuse. They are stupifiers just like Cthulhu drives men mad and the rest.
>>98835939You don't let your players use method 3?
>>98838318>Illithid, not Mind Flayer.anyone remember these? they got ignored later https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Illithid#Goggles_&_DampsuitsGoggles & DampsuitsIn the Monstrous Arcana book era of AD&D 2e, illithids were not just brain-eating squidwards. They were brain-eating squidwards with a serious dermatological problem. Sunlight clouded their vision and dried out their moist, amphibious skin (wimps), which is a polite way of saying the surface world was one giant frying pan to them. So they did what any self-respecting psychic freak would do: they invented survival gear. Thus the glaregoggles and dampsuit.Or the worst designed monster ever, the 8 levels drained per round illithid vampire?https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Illithid#Illithid_Vampireor the illlithid cretins?https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Illithid#Yaggolhttps://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/mindflay/ mind flayerhttps://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/eldebrai/ elder brain (before 3.5 made him into a kaiju monster)https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/yaggol/ mind flayer Cretinhttps://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/vampilli/ mind flayer vampire aka 8 levels energy drain per round + 90% MR etchttps://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/ulithari/ mind flayer noble aka Feeblemind blasthttps://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/golebrai/ brain golem
>>98841460Well in that case you'd normally roll a new character. The DM may instead prefer to grudgingly allow a single stat boosted to make one class allowable, possibly taking points from other stats to balance things out. Or. You could play as 0th level human fighter. I've never heard of anyone being forced to do that in response to poor stat rolls, but there's a first time for everything.
>>98838121>octopus headed monsters but didn't copyright squid headed monsters.another annoying thing was the they used magic instead of psionics for convenience (with the psionics being optional), but the psionics system was so bad and this pointed this out even more even if they did not mean to. They should have no magic, divine or arcane, they should have only psionics; and it should count just as a different kind of metaphysical power. And psionics, they should have a proper system - like the mage slots etc with some variability to emulate the difference a bit and not the fuck counting power points.
>>98834858did anyone finish these?illithid-themed adventures from the Monstrous Arcana series, which support The Illithiad sourcebook, are:• A Darkness Gathering (June 1998)• Masters of Eternal Night (August 1998)• Dawn of the Overmind (1998)
>>98834858https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/mindflay/ mind flayeri remember how this made little sense to me;-did not calculate helmet-did not calculate acid resistance or immunity if we assume they secret the acid to get into the brain-and many other factors (effects any creature?)-mind blast effects all other illithids and also effects thralls and slaves of the illthids, which creates hilarious situations which is pretty good-plane shift is suicide if the illithid uses it to "save himself", it should have been dimension door (self only)Plane Shift 2e"Note that pinpoint accuracy is rarely achieved; arriving at a random distance from an intended destination is common." and in 3.5 we larned just how random "From the Material Plane, you can reach any other plane, though you appear 5 to 500 miles (5d%) from your intended destination."
>>98834858>What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?none, no monk especially
>>98834858>What are your favorite Traps to use in a dungeon?the ones combined with a monster or with a secondary trigger trap
>>98848865>AD&D 2eStop posting this off-topic stuff in the OSR thread please.
>>98849103>>98834858>Pre WotcOP says pre-wotc, its on topic
>>98849107>OP says dogs are birds, so dogs are birds
>>98849125post hidden
>>98834858>standard 4The thief was a problem since he was too weak in 2e and quite useless other than in solving traps and saving the wizard from learning too many knock spells.
>>98849130>2eNot OSR, please make your own thread for it if you want to discuss it.
>>98834858>AD&D2E is is pre WoTCSick
>>98834858>Pre WotcYes, AD&D 2nd Edition (AD&D 2E) is a pre-Wizards of the Coast (WoTC) game.It was originally published by TSR, Inc. in 1989.Wizards of the Coast did not acquire TSR until 1997.
>>98834858A great part of the starting a campaign is the first meeting where you just roll characters and do nothing other than character creation. first adventures where everyone is fragile and could die at any moment are really awesome.
>>98834858has anyone played all the 2e ravenloft adventures with a single party?
>>98834858>standard 4i remember playing Zanzer's dungeon (black box red dragon some basic dnd in tutelary state, the books had low level spells etc it was great), we where a mage a cleric, a thief, fighter and an elf (this was the racial fighter/mage class). The thief pilfered the keys from a tall greenish orc jailer and we got out. I remember some fights even with some wolf, and then we did the Queen's harvest trilogy. We got to level 9 then we did another campaign.
>>98840576>3rd edition went where they are too important and you want at least xincreaasing them as you leveled up was a huge error, as well as giving bonuses from early on like getting3.5;12 gives you +1/+12e16 gives you +0/+117 gives you +1/+1so every character with a bit of basic die roll had +something to this attack roll while in 2e you had only the warriors having that. This diminished the warrior classes further and the stats themselves since you got bonuses even with a low to mid number like 12.
>>98834858worst DM; 1 guy rolls for character get 17 int and 18 str and 15 con, the rest from 10 to 13. Plans to make a mage then turn fighter dual class human. DM gets some creature to reduce his str score permanently to 12 in the first adventure. Should have said nothing and roll %% and made a fighter and turned mage later as a surprise. But the dm sucked. He would give nothing, as in we were level 7 and at that point the only magical weapon we have was a cursed sword -2 that was stuck to the fighter's hand. other dm asshole, 1 guy made a fighter with the backround being he was a city watch guard that had enough and joined a party on some expedition but the guy had a polearm and the moron dm did not like what the polearm (oh you are killing all my monsters with that!!! yeah that is the whole point of it) could do so he broke it on purpose and then when he bought another he repeated it as to force him to use a sword or axe - which he had on him. Trash dms.
>>98834858we were playing Temple of Elemental evil (1e adventure, we played it in 2e of course) and we where tin the statue room and the dwarf fighter had died due to drinking a potion that was actually acid and not a healing potion, they were not identified and he drank it thinking how unlucky could i get. Then the human fighter threw a potion of regeneration into the bucket they had put the dwarf in and hoped it would bring him back, but it did not. But we all laughed.
>>98849107OP says Open OSR so regardless of any unclear phrases in the OP text, 2e is off-topic. Soz.
>>98849185Off-topic, please start its own thread for that if you want to discuss it.
>>98849185I've run a few Ravenloft adventures, but only an odd mix of them.I know one guy who wanted to run through all of the Dragonlance adventures with one group and got pretty far into it, but then there's an adventure that used the Battlesystem and that ended up killing that campaign.
>98849344>98849346>Posts hiddenReminder to everyone: This is the most neurotic, obsessive little troll in the world, and he is our jester.Feel free to watch him dance, but never reply to him.
>>98849430>98849344>98849346they are also exactly 1 minute apart so you know it's that one deranged fella
>>98846553I think it's very solid evidence that b/x and 1e were intended to be seen as two separate games.
>>98849427>Battlesystemi never used that, i played the classic adventures with an early party. It was fun but some jerk playing the mage argued with everyone and with me as the dm. he went invisible and entered the draconian camp and eventually got caught and could not escape, did not dare, or get rescued as the party judged they woudl get killed and that he was a moron, so he started shouting and blaming everyone but himself.low level mage goes snooping around in a draconian camp that even had auraks, the golden ones that have several spells, and thinks all will go well. in another instance, i think it was the boxed set City by the Silt sea (from dark sun), it was in the very start of the adventure they came upon some elf tribe that was selling things and his cleric of/mage character murdered the old man selling his goods (it was for a ring of wizardry or some ring) with a hand axe and of course the elves chased them and they ended up in the silt sea with dead party members and the jerk attacked the captain and it just all became chaos, total chaos. The others we either silent or told him to guy fuck himself for getting all killed for some ring. the spell Phantasmal killer killed him, all the rest died from the elves or from other idiocies and never go to the city. The only survivor was a halfling druid/illusionist. Same jerk ruined the adventures, or made them memorable in a unique crappy way.https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/dracaura/ aurak draconianOnce per day, Auraks can cast two wizard spells of 1st to 4th level. Preferred spells include enlarge, shocking grasp, ESP, stinking cloud, blink, lightning bolt, fire shield, and wall of fire.
>>98849427>Dragonlancethose death throes really spiced things up when they fought draconiansWhen an Aurak reaches 0 hit points, it does not die, but instead surrounds itself with green flames and enters a fighting frenzy (+2 bonus to attack and damage rolls). Anyone coming within three feet of the flames suffers 1d6 points of damage, unless a saving throw vs. petrification is successful. Six rounds later, or when the Aurak reaches -20 hit points, it transforms into a spinning ball of lightning, striking once per round as a 13-HD monster to cause 2d6 points of damage. Three rounds later, it explodes, stunning all within ten feet for 1d4 rounds (2d4 rounds if underwater), Those within ten feet also suffer 3d6 points of damage (no saving throw). Items within the range of the explosion must roll successful saving throws vs. crushing blow or be destroyed.What happens to a Sivak when it reaches 0 hit points depends on the size of its slayer. If the slayer was a humanoid the same size as or smaller than the Sivak, the slain Sivak shapechanges into the form of its slayer. It remains in its death shape for three days, after which time it decomposes into black soot. It the slayer was not a humanoid or if it was a humanoid larger than the Sivak, the Sivak immediately bursts into flame upon reaching 0 hp, causing 2d4 points of damage to all within ten feet (no saving throw).When a Bozak reaches 0 hit points, its scaly flesh shrivels and crumbles from its bones in a cloud of dust; this process takes one round. In the next round, the bones explode, causing 1d6 points of damage to all within ten feet (no saving throw).
>>98849427>DragonlanceWhen a Baaz reaches 0 hit points, it turns into a stone statue. The person who struck the death blow must roll a successtul Dexterity Check with a -3 penalty or his weapon is stuck in the statue. The statue crumbles to dust within 1d4 rounds, freeing the weapon. The weapons and armor of the Baaz remain behind after it turns to dust.When a Kapak reaches 0 hit points, its body instantly dissolves into a ten-foot-wide pool of acid. All within the pool suffer 1d8 points of damage per round from the acid (no saving throw). The acid evaporates in 1d6 rounds. All items possessed by the dissolved Kapak, including treasure and magical items, are rendered useless by the acid.When slain, the sesk appear to shrink in upon themselves, dehydrating and turning to fine silvery dust in a single round.Upon death, the traag bubble and rot away in a single round, leaving only a slimy puddle behind.
>>98834858what i also never got was why the fuck did the vampire drain levels when it struck you. The whole point is that its a strong undead that can deceive and have magical powers etc. You get punched you lose a level, this was utterly incomprehensible. It was not even when getting bitten and blood was drained. https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/vampire/https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/vampire0"Like all undead creatures, vampires exist in both the Positive Material and Negative Material planes at the same time. Their powerful negative essence allows them to drain two life energy levels from anyone they strike. If the vampire is making use of some form of weapon in the attack, it cannot employ this power."completely senseless, if this would exist it would be when blood was drunk.
>>98849427>Ravenloft adventureplayed ship of horror, it was pretty bad but the dm made a great atmosphere. In the end you fight a 20th level necromancer that can kill you all with single spell if your party is level 8. night of the walking dead was greatravenloft the original adventures we found to be just oktouch of death sort of confusing, the computer game was great though "stone prophet"feast of the goblyns we all liked alotthe created freaked us out as we became puppetswe played almost all ravenloft adventuresThoughts of Darkness writes that its 12th-15th level but its bullshit you need 30 level characters and you can still die. Adventure is pretty lame but the art and setting is great for inspiration.
>>98849427>Ravenloft adventurethe ship of horror adventure has a snow golem monster but it differs from the one found in the mc. The mc one is far far stronger. Snow Golem (Greater)This is the original printing of the snow golem from RS1 9321 Ship of Horrors, and differs in a few significant ways from the later printing in 2153 MC3 Ravenloft Appendix, so they were separated into Greater and Lesser.https://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/golevsng/Snow Golem (Lesser)This is the second printing of the snow golem, first described in Ship of Horrorhttps://www.completecompendium.com/appendix/golevsnl/
>>98846553pretty much the same way I feel about this passage from dmg 1edespite what fundamentalist retards believe the systems weren't perfect and it was acknowledged by the creators who in their wisdom reminded to value fun over always running the systems RAW
>>98849951D&D fundamentalism existing is such a weird thing. I don't think there's ever been anything good that's come out of any game run that way.
>We're now at the point where he's raving about 'D&D Fundamentalism'I predict that by the end of the year we're going to be seeing him samefagging conversations about D&D Extremists, /osrg/ Wahhabism and manifesto posting about ACKS in the style of the Unibomber.
>>98849990>D&D fundamentalismthis deserves a padded room
>>98834858there is this 18-20 level FR adventure, called nightmare keep. Its very bad, but it can be used as inspiration to write a good one and you can use the dungeon map which is the huge body of the villain.
>>98850017Inshgygxax habibi, we are the radical D&D fundamentalists. Only when the foolish AD&D 2e players accept their status as Dhimmi and pay the Jizya will there be peace.
>>98834858anyone tried the 2e called shot rules? hands, arms, legs and other parts of non-human anatomy went flying, it was really good.
>>98849951>despite what fundamentalist retards believe the systems weren't perfectShow me who says they were perfect
>>98850238they baboonoid fanaticism of them as some sort of revelation and their enmity towards others clearly illustrates this
>>98850109>anyone tried the 2e called shot rules?They specifically say you can't chop off an arm or blind someone with a called shot, which straight up sucks.I can understand why, because blinding people would almost always be the first thing someone would try to do against any opponent that they thought was going to survive longer than two rounds, but limiting called shots to knocking things out of peoples hands or triggering a switch feels like a missed opportunity to really add a lot more depth to the combat.
>>98850315yeah but we used it to cut off heads, arms, legs, tentacles, eye stalks (you could do that to beholder even before called shots) etc but a 12th level weaponmaster cut the knight's hand and then he got an iron hand and got the shield strapped on.
>>98850346It's definitely a way to flex on some fools.
>>98850005>/osrg/ WahhabismI'm pretty sure he's already done this one before.
>>98850109I once used a called shot to cut a noose with an arrow just as the guy dropped.
>>98849757>All items possessed by the dissolved Kapak, including treasure and magical items, are rendered useless by the acid.That's just straight up dickish.
>>98850246Please show me some examples of what you mean
>Inane dragonlance nogames one-liners
>>98851844Hey, cut him some slack! He can't copypaste Dragonlance monster entries (lmao) forever!
>>98849184>A great part of the starting a campaign is the first meeting where you just roll characters and do nothing other than character creation. I'm working on a nice big series of tables to generate everything randomly for the PCs, with all sorts of details shaped by the setting. I really want to pull some of the players out of a "my character has to be a very specific type or I won't enjoy myself" mentality that they developed playing non-OSR games, and I feel like making much more than just ability scores up to chance might help with that. It should be a fun first session either way, or at least I hope it will be.
>>98851715Very organic! This made me a better DM.
>>98848955>-did not calculate helmet>-did not calculate acid resistance or immunity if we assume they secret the acid to get into the brain>-and many other factors (effects any creature?)Psionics.
>>98853947>Psionics.it was physically eating its victims, they were just stunned due to the mind blast
Im completelly run out of GM mojo, I want to play something. Anybody willing to run something by text chat?
>>98854992>playing with 4chan randosGood luck.
>>98854992Solo thread is right there man. Go ask 'em.
>>98855047i dont want to play solo, i want a group hahah. I dont want to bother them.
>>98855030I just finished running a nearly 4-year long campaign of weekly sessions we're almost everyone in the group was random dudes that were recruited from osrg. Take that for what you will
>>98855583Should probably have asked in /osrg/ then, instead of a troll thread
>>98855683I didn't ask.
>>98854992>>98855583what were you playing?
>>98838304Method V in UA, 9d6 to 3d6 in order that depends upon desired class, gives the best chance at about 31.8%
>>98856988BX using OSE. Surprisingly the necessity of House rules was fairly small. Mostly just in-game rulings
>>98856988I was also playing B/X. I came here to search for group to play different things. Knave, Maze Rats or whatever things, IDK, I am open minded to see other ways to do it.
>>98846553I feel like there's certain people who need to see it the next time they say something about how OSR games are meant to be played like an unpaid job.
>>98834858any AD&D basic (etc)/1e/2e errata on all books gahered in one place?
>>98834896Currently playing my first ever paladin in 1e. The DM allowed 4d6, rake best 3, then reorder to player's choice of stats.It really hurt to use that 17 on charisma, just for the experience of playing a paladin for once in my life.
Any osr games with an official table for random flaws in alchemical/herbal potions?Like a wild magic surge table but things that can only affect the drinker.Wanting to do cheap potions/herbal elixirs that are more risky but what peasants and working class are likely to use.
>>98862805osr games never focus on alchemy, you will have to check for a different genre of games to find what you want
>>98862771>You can summon him at any time by making a positive comment about any retrocloneYou mean like ACKS? :^)
>>98863117This.
>>98862771You sound like a moronic schizo. 2e is a shit game, and rightfully looked down upon. Gatekeeping is good, and is only complained about by those whom the gate was meant to keep out. Now, can you actually try demonstrating some examples of your claim instead of just vaguely gesturing??
>>98863513The mods literally kicked you out of osrg and you created this thread just as an excuse to continuously cry and complain about that fact.
>>98865948You've invented a mythology with no basis in reality. It will die with you. Even saying anyone believes it now is laughable, because every single detail of your story is impossible and illogical. You don't even believe your own stories.You tell your stories because you don't care how obvious they are as lies to everyone, you just need "a story", something to waste people's time because the only tools you have are obsession and the belief that you care less about wasting your life than other people do about you wasting theirs.You genuinely think you can drive away everyone who disagrees with you away by being a cantakerous old man, the kind who ends up all alone in a nursing home with even the orderlies quietly praying for your death.The few old men who encourage you and each other? It's the purest form of sado-masochism. We've already seen the two outcomes of your antics all across the internet before: either you're driven out, or the forum dwindles and dies. There is no third path where people start believing your nonsense when all your arguments just end up turning into empty trolling, not when anyone with any natural curiosity can find the truth that exists beyond your lies for themselves with incredible ease.Your lies die with you. The undercurrent of your hatred will persist, but it will mutate into whatever form the culture war happens to take. All your weird game lies will die, and the world will move on.Don't worry. None of the "audience" you're obsessed about will read a tl;dr post like this. This is just a post for you, so you don't need to go into theatrics over it like you're prone to do.Just remember in five years time, that you were told you would regret your efforts, and you chose to keep going. Choose whatever story you want to justify it. Spiting your nonexistant boogeyman, a genuine belief you do own this board and everyone must be made to agree with you, whatever story you like.I hope it comforts you.
>>98865818>2e is a shit game, and rightfully looked down upon.It's 1e but more open to modification and reflecting how the majority of people actually played the game, instead of acting like robots with sticks up their asses. It also comes with the benefit of terrible managerial oversight that was mostly hands-off and willing to throw resources at niche projects that had no chance of recouping their costs.Not wanting to play 2e is fine. Hating it so much you want to discourage other people from playing/discussing/mining it is where it's clear you don't really care about the actual game and just want to LARP as an edition warring loser.You do understand no one wants to hear your opinions on games, right? They even made a whole seperate thread just to get away from your braindead jackassery?
>>98862805That sounds like something that would be fun to make on your own.
>>98866097>people>Theylol
>>98866081>this is not a bitter, demented rant about how salty I am that I lost comprehensively>I forbid you from reading between the lines of my wall of textkekyour ideas are the ones that are comprehensively marginalized, which is hardly surprising since you made them up out of thin air to avoid having to accept that you're wrongand you know this yourself, that's why you're malding so hard: this thread is totally empty except for you and mockery of you, while /osrg/ is vibrant and full of discussionit's obvious to anybody that you're inches away from crossdressing and setting fire to yourself on the sofa
>>98850022Most adventures I've found intended for characters above 15th level have all been wank. Every edition, every setting, just wank up to the gills.High level FR adventures can get especially extra wanky, because gods are typically involved.
>>98866156We can see the other posters, so there's no point in lying to us about how we're supposed to be alone. If you imagine your lies will work on your "audience", you'd be better of making more "vibrant" posts in the /osrg/ so it doesn't just look like two guys jerking each other off while sounding identical to each other.But, I'll tell you a secret.You have no audience. You come here because this is the only thread where anyone pities you enough to give your dumb trolling ass any attention. Be grateful.
>>98866173oh yes, the other posters, the many other posters who keep this thread alive and thrumming with very real discussionlmaooooo>You come here becauseI come here to mock you and for no other reason, because you deserve it and it cracks me up
>>98866223The last /osrg/ took two weeks to hit the bump limit, and that's with you doing your best to put on a show that it is actually "vibrant" and not just a few sad losers who've succeeded in driving off more than half of the threads original population. Imagine how much slower it would be if you weren't desperate to create a myth that you're so happy with how things have turned out for you, even as you keep crawling into these threads just for the opportunity to talk with real people.You're not happy, and you've admitted as much since you say these threads trigger you and you won't stop flooding/shitposting in them because of how upset you are. These threads upset you because you want people to believe all of /tg/ accepts your incredibly stupid ideas about the OSR, when the only place that does is the dying husk-turned-containment-thread that's the sad remainder of the /osrg/.People can look into the archive just a few years ago and see what a real "vibrant" /osrg/ was like. Actually, the whole board was in a much better state, so it makes it a bit of black humor that this is the place that's ended up as your last resort since you've been laughed out of every other place that discusses OSR games. You really lose either way, either being driven out or killing wherever you stay too long.The sad thing is that you'll happily contribute to a board bleeding away its users if it means you can hold onto your delusions.
>>98866081>Schizo wall of textDo I really need to post the screenshot of you with the mods on IRC?Btw, I've been here for over 20 years and I'll be here long after you rope yourself.
>>98866097It's 1e except shitty. >Formed a separate thread to escapeLol do we need the IRC screenshot?
>>98866276>A threads quality was determined by how quickly it hits bump limit!Moron
>>98866369A threads quality is determined by its quality.The /osrg/ is a mess, and the thing is, you know it. Everyone knows it. But you can't admit it, because you worked to make it your hugbox and admitting it sucks now would shatter your ego and kill what little remains of your plan. You'd rather watch it die than admit you fucked up.You being unable to admit it sucks much more now is part of what has lead it to its current state, with you having to pretend you like and even prefer how it is now, making each iteration more dead-eyed and forced and filled with even more is the same faggotry than before.No one even had to troll it for it to die. You just had to show off that charming personality of yours, the one where you bore everyone who agrees with you and try to bite off the head of anyone who disagrees. That's the recipe for a hugbox, and I guess no one told you what happens to hugboxes before you set out to make one.
>>98866399>more mythology no one will readDude, there's no imaginary audience. You're lying to people who already know you're a liar.
>>98866406>threads quality is determined by its quality.Then why are you smugposting about the thread being slow?>more schizo wall of text
>>98866420>until you smoke yourselfI audibly chuckled
>>98866426I'm telling you about measurable indicators that signal a decline in population, something you're aware of and are desperate to disguise as best you can and still happen to be failing to do so.The /osrg/ discussion having turned to shit is a subjective topic you could argue about endlessly, and you would, because you even argue about objective facts because you're always talking to some imaginary audience or boogeyman instead of the person who's talking to you.I'm explaining that people are not stupid. We can recognize big, obvious signs that the /osrg/ is nothing like what it used to be, and its quality has significantly diminished thanks to your efforts to make it an echo chamber for your demonstrably idiotic and false ideas. You can lie as much as you want to the imaginary audience you think both cares enough about this to read your posts and is stupid enough to take you at your word instead of looking at the evidence, but don't act like we're supposed to partake with you in your delusions.
>>98866352ironic
>>98866457>I'm explaining that people are not stupid.lmao you very clearly are but on the plus side everyone can see you doing it so there's that. Keep going.
>he's gone back to saying "boogeyman" over and over after being shamed out of it for 6+ monthssomeone explain the psychology of this reversion
>>98866457>more delusional schizo wall of text
>>98866457>We
>>98866457>a decline in populationThat's exactly what was wanted. You and your kind are not welcome.
>>98834858>What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?Explorer and Venturer only, I'm still trying to settle into ACKS and most of the campaign classes are just inaccurate enough to my campaign that they make me want to do my own.
>>98866756I don't like Explorer personally. I think it's basically just the - at 9th level I have to fuck off from the kingdom building everyone is doing to go live in the woods - part.As for the campaign classes I adapted Assassin, bladedancer and priestess pretty well to my campaign but I get what you mean. My big thing atm is that the only online class creator tool is for ACKS 1E rather than II so I feel it might not be compatible in areas.
>>98866756I've seen ACKShills tries to promote the game as something other than a very niche system in order to try to justify their heavyhanded (and politically motivated) shilling in places the game definitely doesn't belong, but even just its style and setting don't really fit well with your classic heroic fantasy novel themes that most OSR games are built around. It's a poorly researched Romaboo setting filtered through a guy that thinks including bikini armor in an RPG is how you own the libtards, which probably explains why it got so few backers. Any time it tries to move beyond being just mundane, it chooses to become cringe.The merchant and explorer are bland classes in terms of style, but they fuck with the basic structure of the game in a way I really don't like.
>>98866837ACKS is a mistake of a game played by people who were also likely mistakes.I had a GM try to borrow some rules from it, and after fifteen minutes of messing around with pdfs and dice he told us the assorted monster parts we were trying to sell would get us slightly more gold.After he saw our reactions I don't think he touched that game again and we were much happier for it.
>>98866837>The merchant and explorer are bland classes in terms of style, but they fuck with the basic structure of the game in a way I really don't like.They really are un-OSR. They could fit ACKS but I doubt it. The mechanics look jank.
>>98866868>DM is unprepared for the game and tries to open up a separate system to do something on the fly mid-session, resulting in a fizzle Waow>>98866882>They really are un-OSRWould love to hear some specific concrete examples of exactly what you mean by this!
>>98866882>The mechanics look jank.Then it definitely fits.
>>98866837>a guy that thinks including bikini armor in an RPG is how you own the libtards...lolwut? This is an impressive "mask off" moment, where the fish once again reveals that he can't actually criticize specifics about the game itself, just vaguely complain about it long enough until he admits that it's about the author's politics.Combined with the fact that he has admitted that he is from rpgnet and reddit, I think it's pretty obvious that he is just trying to erase any traces of """chuddery""" in the osr
>ackshill starts having a meltyAnd he wonders why they keep getting banned everywhere they go.
>>98866897They know why. They just can't stop themselves.It's why they show up here because they poisoned their own thread just by being themselves.
>>98866897>>98866914Banned from where specifically? What are these desirable places that they have been removed from?
>>98850346Beholder rules are so weird. They feel like they were made in a different system and almost nothing uses the same rules they do.Aside from hit locations, they also have facing. Those get really tricky really fast even without having to deal with all the rays.
>>98866939Wow, what engaging stimulating, organic discussion! I also love looking up random monsters and discussing their abilities. Did you know that blink dogs are capable of teleporting distances?
>>98866457Anon, you don’t have to convince anyone that he’s killing the OSR on 4chan, he’s been working for years to kill the OSR on 4chan, he deflects and subverts all forms of on-topic discussion and the only time he’s happy is when he’s in a dead thread. What you have to do is report his posts without replying to them.
>>98866963It's interesting how you accuse others of killing thread interest when that is your explicit goal. You don't even play games, you can't produce a legible character sheet, and at this point it's almost a guaranteed fact that you are just a demoralization intern trying to whether the user base of the site like killing off any interest. If you really cared this much about your community ecosystem, you would just go back to the websites that you claim are so supportive of you.Instead you stay here and create these weird hijack threads in order to complain about how you are essentially the government in exile.
>>98866097>2e is 1eSo you're retarded, gotcha
>>98866756>Explorer and Venturer onlyNot even Elf Spells Word and Dward Ruinguard?
>>98866963He really just needs to wake up. He's got two forms of lying: the kind he does where he knows he's lying and he knows everyone else knows he's lying but he lies anyway, and then there's the kind that involves lying to himself.It's the latter that's the real problem. All his random bullshit he himself doesn't believe is one thing, but he doesn't seem to understand we can see right past all that and he's trying to grandstand for an audience that just doesn't exist, to try and further a plan that just would never work.He doesn't seem to (consciously) want to kill the OSR. He's just so stupid that he wants an OSR hugbox without comprehending that hugboxes kill topics.
>>98867015He’s not lying to you or to himself, he’s lying to the lurkers and the tourists who aren’t paying as much attention, it’s called astroturfing. Dumbfuck.
>>98867015>>98867021See >>98867013
>>98867021The lurkers and tourists are nowhere near dumb enough to believe him. You couldn't solve captchas if you were that dumb.This is 4chan. Anonymity means people come here with doubt and suspicion, and none of this guys ideas, stories, or mythology make any sense. Some might play along with it, but we're talking about ideas that are inherently stupid and illogical to the point no rational person could believe in them.He imagines a world where complete newfags will listen to him and only him, and never bother to read about the OSR beyond the four blogs that agree with him, which have to ignore considerable amounts of easily accessible evidence that contradicts them. Even some of the handful of people who read those blogs and comment on them disagree with them.He thinks he can samefag while accusing others of samefagging and people will only believe him. He does it so shamelessly that it's insulting to everyone's intelligence. No matter how dumb people are, and I know they can be very dumb, you'd have to be completely braindead to fall for his shit.Even if he could get his concept of a boardwide-hugbox established and forced everyone here to either agree with him or leave, that wouldn't last very long because he's inherently wrong, and the only way he'd maintain that stasis is if no one aware of the world outside his echo chamber came here. What he wants either will die itself or requires the stagnation (and ultimately the death) of its host.The lies even he doesn't believe, aimed at newfags? Worthless. The lies he actually believes himself though, that's what drives him.But you're probably right about him never being able to wake up from his own delusions. There's probably no evidence in the world that could overpower the delusions he's operating under.
>>98867060>Endless schizo wall of text cope
>>98866837>a guy that thinks including bikini armor in an RPG is how you own the libtardsIf that isn't the case, what did the system do that so thoroughly owned you that it now has you enslaved for life, raging, shitting and crying about it until your heart gives out?You're so clearly owned I'm surprised you've not started calling Marcis Massa.
>>98866717thanks for confessing this.
>>98867667We did, indeed, put that sentence in to exclude 2e explicitly, since there was a persistent autist troll (You) who kept insisting that a decade lasts twenty years until he (You) went to harass the mods on IRC and got explicitly told that /osrg/ had been the same over a decade, and to stop trying to take it /osrg/ over.
>>98867667Nigger, do you think this is some kind of revelation? We have been pretty vocal about excluding you and the other 2etards. >trollcow literally admitted that he doesn't want me in his thread!!! That's why you have been getting bullied and had to go running to the mods on IRC, yes
>>98867060Ironic.
And again, I have posted 4 times including this on in this thread, haven't posted at all in the last two. Fish you're a total schizo and so full of shit everyone can see. That you've have to shift to typing out huge confessionals like >>98867060>>98867015>>98866975etcetcetc instead of figuring out how to play any of the games you crusade about is fucked and sad. Even in your retardclownworld popularity means victory vision you miss that you can't actually ever have that because you don't play any games to post about. Its that simple. Everyone can see.
>>98866837>chooses to become cringe.That's just what happens when some boomer ends up on the internet. They don't choose to be cringe, they just are it.
>>98855583It was a different place back then.
>>98868147Nigger, 6975 is myself and I'm clearly and directly talking shit to the fish.
>>98866939My personal hypothesis is that it was created specifically as a demo/prototype for those ideas before they were part of the wider game, and just ended up getting grandfathered in because the core team was already used to it.Part of that is because I spent some time recently trying to rework it into a Chainmail style creature, and it strikes me as being fairly similar in play but very different in description.
>>98868432My bad. So at this point do you think fish will accuse this of false flagging to target themselves so that the ackspiracy is still all just one poster? Guy in insane.
>>98868567I don't think the retarded little weasel will ever change at this point. The only thing we can hope for is that he finally works up the courage to put a gun into his mouth and suck the barrel.
>>98868534I just looked it up, and the reason it's so weird is that it was made by Terry Kuntz, Rob Kuntz's older brother, around when the they had only been playtesting the game for about 2 months at that point. Terry was only 19 at the time, and would end up not designing much else, so its weirdness comes from it being a non-Gygaxian, non-Arnesonian monster made by a teenager at a time when no one really knew what the game was going to end up being yet.
>>98867667>They did it to exclude me, reeeee-Yes because you were talking about shit that wasn't thread relevant and insisting it was. What of it?
Terry didn't write much, but he did write a few things for Dragon, including a defense of wargaming. What's surprising is that even in 1980, roleplaying games were still considered under the larger umbrella of wargaming. I'm actually curious when it occurred that RPGs became seen as their own distinct category as opposed to a sub-category of wargaming.
>>98868534I think it's too strong/deadly for it to be a demo monster. All of its cool and unique mechanics tend to get overshadowed by it just being able to shoot death beams.
>>98868780I can see why he didn't write much.
>>98867667I think the key thing to highlight in that confession was that he was getting his shit deleted but still kept trying to figure out how to sneak his shit into the OP without people reporting him.
>>98868780>I'm actually curious when it occurred that RPGs became seen as their own distinct category as opposed to a sub-category of wargaming.Probably a gradient.Between 1980 and 1990 they were seperating.By the time Vampire the Masquerade hit the scene they were pretty seperate though. I think by then you had lots of roleplayers who had never played a wargame and had no interest in them.
>>98848865>DampsuitsThese should make sneaking around impossible because they constantly make the sound of wet pieces of leather sliding against each other.
>>98868780>I'm actually curious when it occurred that RPGs became seen as their own distinct categoryAccording to Jim Dunnigan of SPI the wargaming industry collapsed around 1982. TSR purchased SPI and continued publishing Strategy & Tactics magazine until 1987, when they deciding that wargaming wasn't going to recover and sold the magazine. Avalon Hill survived the demise of wargaming in part because they had already diversified beyond hex and counter wargames. Their purchase of RuneQuest in 1984 was part of their diversification strategy. I doubt many people saw RPGs as a category of wargaming after 1982.
>>98868938>Vampire the Masquerade>>98869416>RuneQuestFree "OSR"talking about OSR games, any%difficulty: impossible
98869458get some new material, faggot
>>98869416>Avalon Hill purchasing RuneQuestSomeone was definitely deeply regretting passing on D&D.
>>98866939ACKS II fixed the beholder. I've started using the Spell Tyrant and I haven't looked back since.
>>98869467Try talking about osr games instead of jerking off over other stuff. Are you even capable of creating a first level character sheet for bx?
>>98869416>According to Jim Dunnigan of SPI the wargaming industry collapsed around 1982That's weird, because Warhammer came out in 1983.
>>98834858>Thread Question: What Classes do you like to allow outside of the standard 4?I'm running OSE with the advanced rules, so its got lots of extras for players to pick from.
>>98872677If you like having many class options you should definitely check out ACKS II. It has tons of classes plus good rules to make your own.
>>98870777We all know Warhammer is weird and Dunnigan was a historical battle simulation guy like most wargamers in the 70s.
>>98873169Love wargames. My favorite one is Domains at War. Fully compatible with B/X, by the way!
>>98873005They all look terrible. I don't think the guy who made them has any real experience making games. It feels like a system made by a guy LARPing as a game designer.
>>98873191It's what happens when someone keeps adding rules but never learned how to refine them.It's actually pretty funny how amateur the whole thing is, even before you account for the AI art.
>>98873201He has to claim everything about it is bad, it's one of his autistic tics.If he could get away with 'Using a D20, urgh, everyone knows D6 is more common and therefore superior' he'd give it a shot.
>>98873191That's what it is. A guy doing game design despite lacking fundamental understanding of how games work. The only reason the game barely functions is because it's built out of B/X, it just happens to be slower and worse than B/X in every way.If you want to see a real train wreck, find a PDF of his superhero system. It's so bad, even the ACKShills can't pretend they like it.
>ackshill has a melty whenever people make fun of his shit systemAlways fun to watch, but try to ignore him, okay?
>>98873267I think he wants people to talk about how bad the "art" is though, and how much of a shit Macris is for selling his books without disclosing that it would be AI slop.That's pretty much as objective of a confirmation that a person is a shitbag there could be in the RPG scene, and the ACKShills would still try to defend that.
>>98873259Expect him to either ignore this, or manifesto post that can be boiled down to 'It's bad because it's ACKS, and ACKS is bad'He's not capable of actual critique because that would require knowing something about how systems function or games are played
>>98873267>>98873295Answer the question. You said that all ACKS classes are bad without exception, so let's take one. What's wrong with the Elven Nightblade?
>>98873295I think what he wants is people to learn how to automatically ignore him.
>>98873376Answer the question. >>98873259You said that all ACKS classes are bad without exception, so let's take one. What's wrong with the Elven Nightblade?
>>98873394>Trying to change topic.(You) claimed that *all* ACKS classes are bad in three separate samefagging posts. So (You) must have read it. So answer the question: >>98873259What's wrong with the Elven Nightblade?
>>98873295Six-finger paladin is probably the best. The ACKShill was actually trying to argue that the obvious AI slop used in the book wasn't AI slop, but then had to completely change gears when he posted this pic and didn't even notice the "even my grandma can tell its AI" tell.There's something really fucked up about how much of a shill he is. He's willing to argue against clear evidence for hours, then when he's backed into a corner where he can't bullshit anymore about one thing, he'll start bullshitting about something else and pretend that anyone is supposed to trust his dumb shilling ass.
>>98873376Filters. They're fantastic.
>>98873431>jaldi you dalitHis search results are in Albanian, not in Indian >>98832510
>>98873439> what's wrong with Elven NightbladeThere is nothing wrong with the name if you are a faggot and you fantasize about an elf coming into your hotel room and sticking his nightblade up your ass.
>>98873444He has the soul that was too poor quality to make an Insian.
>>98872677It's really easy for things to get weird with the Advanced material.The only time I've ever run a game without a single human PC was in OSE.
>>98873516Class proficiencies reek of 3rd edition feats.
>>98873538I don't want 3rd edition feats under a different name, faggot. But 3rd edition is out there if you like it.
>>98873549>Still trying to change topicThey're not 3rd edition feats, they're AD&D 2e proficiencies and kit special abilities.Answer the question now: What are the specific issues with the Elven Nightblade? >>98873259
>>98873531>>98873549>bullying the ackshill into a nervous breakdown
>>98873557Well for one, simple classes are easier for the DM. The DM can't afford to spend a lot of time specifying NPC stats. Players who are faggots and want special snowflake characters love that stuff, but it isn't part of the OSR mindset. Anyway, I'm still chuckling about your little elf friend's "nightblade".
>>98873295>selling his books without disclosing that it would be AI slop.Isn't that fraud?
>>98873797Oh yeah, definitely. You should get on the line to Interpol at once.
>>98873853Not as gay as "elven blade dancer".
>>98873592>I am getting raped over my inability to back up my claims, making me the victor
>>98873594>More generic comments devoid of content.Answer the question on the specific issues with the Elven Nightblade.
>>98874020>Everything is shit!>What part of this specific thing is shit so we can measure the validity of your complaints.>EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVERYTHING, REEEEEEEEE-You do realize that everyone else can see what a subhuman you are, don't you?
>>98874161Would you consider it fair to call a person who lacks empathy "subhuman"?
>>98866837>ACKShills
>>98869653kek
>>98870777That might have killed wargaming in America.
>>98874161>You do realize that everyone else can see what a subhuman you are, don't you?No, he doesn't. He has a broken theory of mind and he's literally incapable of figuring out what normal humans think just like he's incapable of creating a B/X character sheet.
>>98876281Pointing and laughing at subhumans having autistic meltdowns is the 4chan way. If you don't like it you can always try to create a thread that won't attract him like flies to shit.
>>98876426Newfag here. Why are you acting like a subhuman having autistic meltdowns at people point and laughing? I want to understand the 4chan way.
>>98876444You replied to the wrong comment mr totally-a-newfag
>>98876622I meant to reply 98876426.
So anyway, here's the Elven Nightblade. It's pretty much a BX-ification of an AD&D Magic-User/Thief, with a higher maximum level than the Spellsword (the standard B/X Elf) and fewer XP to advance, but with a slower progression in spells.
>>98876839>that fuck awful slopAbsolutely disgusting.
>>98876839And here are the Nightblade "Templates". They're the ACKS II version of the kits of AD&D 2e, only they don't suck ass like the AD&D 2e ones, because they're written by someone who is great at writing rules, unlike the retards who created the most dogshit edition of any D&D-branded edition.
>>98876863The way templates work is you roll 3d6, get a set of proficiencies to define your character a bit more, some starting equipment, and you're good to go. This makes creating characters actually faster than B/X.
lol the ACKShill thinks people don't know his game is crap and thinks he can out-bore people by spamming his gay rules
>>98876839Since the Spellsword was mentioned, here it is. It's mostly the B/X one, with some minor differences.
>>98876892He really just can't stop his "look at how obvious my agenda is" thing. Not even just in this thread, but you can see how he's just keeps posting about ACKS in the /osrg/ when everyone can see how forced and fake it is.It's like he is an endless misstep. He wants to shill ACKS, but can only do it in a way that makes everyone realize only faggots and retards shill it.
lol the fisfag thinks people don't know his brain is crap and thinks he can out-bore people by spamming his nogames.
>>98876909>He really just can't stop his "look at how obvious my agenda is" thing. Not even just in this thread, but you can see how he's just keeps posting about nothing at all in the open osr when everyone can see how forced and fake it is.>It's like he is an endless misstep. He wants to kill ACKS, but can only do it in a way that makes everyone realize only faggots and retards care what he thinks at all.
>>98876909It's not 100% his fault. I used to work fairly closely with salespeople, and the unfortunate truth is that the most important factor in regards to how effective an advertising campaign is going to be is always going to be the underlying quality of the product. Good products basically sell themselves and the salespeople are only too happy to sell it. Selling a good product practically makes them feel like they're doing people a favor.Nothing makes a salesperson more neurotic and self-destructive than having to sell a product they know is bad. Even worse when it's a borderline scam. I've seen salespeople go from the nicest, happiest people to the nastiest, spiteful, and miserable people just because the product they were hocking went from something people might actually want to buy to something they knew people could only be tricked into buying and would regret doing so.
>>98876950>It's not 100% his fault. I used to work fairly closely with salespeople, and the unfortunate truth is that the most important factor in regards to how effective an advertising campaign is going to be is always going to be the underlying quality of the product. Good products basically sell themselves and the salespeople are only too happy to sell it. Selling a good product practically makes them feel like they're doing people a favor.lmao this is how we know you're entirely full of shit and have never worked once in your life.
>>98876863Are you allowed to just pick one if you want? Or do you have to roll BTB?
>>98877012You sound like you've been stuck shilling a bad product for a long time.Our department goes through a lot of different clients, and by company-wide consensus the worst decision was when our DH made a deal with a gray-area gambling organization a few years back. It was for a lot of money, enough that he thought it was worth having a big announcement and celebration over, but everyone down the line knew it was a mistake and we ended up having our reputation immediately fall apart and we've had to spend the last several years rebuilding everything. Our salespeople went from naturally likable professionals to so aggressively neurotic that they were burning bridges even within the company, and all because the big product they had to try and get people on board with was something everyone knew was a life-destroying money extractor that made even other forms of gambling look benign. Most forms of selling something do involve some measure of exaggeration, a little massaging of the facts to make things look better than they really are. But when you have to wake up every day knowing you're going to have to spend it lying with a smile on your face about a product everyone knows is a scam while people silently or loudly want nothing from you but for you to go fuck yourself, it chips away at your soul pretty quickly. Most of our sales and ad teams quit within the year, and the people left were mostly just the sociopaths taking advantage of a bad situation to enrich themselves as best they could. It was a hard lesson, but since then we drew some pretty hard lines about what kind of companies we're willing to work with. Some people and products are just not worth the millions of dollars they're offering, especially because there's no shortage of companies that have products much easier to sell that look much better for us to be selling.
Dear god man,Is it really so hard to get the idea through your cliff face of a skull that some people just like games and don't care about your salty /pol/shit bitching, wounded ego and piss poor attempts to hide both?Is this shit really all you have going on in your life? This constant lurking so you can pounce any time anyone mentions ACKS and post some raving, off topic bullshit to try and quell the conversation?Christ. I almost feel sorry for you.
>>98877141>Christ. I almost feel sorry for you.Who are you kidding? You don't have feelings, friends, or a game. But 4chan will always be here for you!
>>98877141Dude, you're the guy spamming your game that less than a thousand people still play because it's so bad, in the last place that you haven't been run out of, without realizing why you've been run out of so many places.Hell, you're in a thread made by people wanting to avoid you and your obsession with that shit game, and you're here under your professed idea that you are trying to troll an individual out of pure spite.You have your hugbox for your scam game already. Apparently, only shilling to yourselves wasn't part of your plan.
>>98877158https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoweoL_Q6q0
>>98877165>, you're in a thread made by people wanting to avoid you and your obsession with that shit gameFirst I heard of "Open OSR" meaning "No ACKS Club". OP doesn't say anything about that.
>>98877176Probably shouldn't have used ACKS as your medium for flooding these threads before.Do you really think people don't have memories?
>>98877002>There is nothing wrong with adding rules to B/X to make it play like 3rd edition. Sure. Even though, again, it's more like a good version of 2e IMHO.>And I think the AI slop looks great.I honestly can't tell the difference, but I'm not artsy at all. I personally prefer black and white illustrations because that's what I've grown up with, but I find the ACKS art perfectly serviceable.
>>98877041It's an optional rule, so it's up to the DM. I would personally strongly encourage players to roll, though: Buildfagging is detrimental to the TRVE OSR style of play.
>>98877176These threads are entirely an ego project by him.Rather than admitting that /osrg/ doesn't want him, he's created these threads for the purpose of trying to create his own /osrg/ with blackjack and hookers.Except as a disappointment to both god and his family, he's failed to make it work.
>>98877176It says "As always, report and ignore any trolling," and the only people who post about ACKS are universally and singularly trolls.You can't help yourselves. You're just rotten to the core, and it shows by how you can't discuss your game in any way that doesn't make you look ridiculous, whether it's posts like >>98877002 or just your general war against your invented boogeyman made to try and distract people from just how bad the game you want to shill is. Whenever any of the thousands of criticisms that the game has earned pop up, you can't help yourself but slam the "TROLL TIME" button as hard as you can and hope that the thread will just be forgotten along with all your other trolling. In reality, you've just built up a huge library of examples of the kind of shitty shit you guys do that have gotten you banned from everywhere you can't just post anonymously. If you weren't a troll, you'd stay in your containment thread where no one bothers you about your gay game. But, you come here specifically because you know no one real visits your thread anymore, and you think that by spamming ACKS you can ruin this thread as thoroughly as you've ruined your own.
>>98877207Why do you keep posting like you think we're in the /osrg/?Are you completely retarded?
>>98876902Really looking forward to pirating the new Beyond All Others elf classes when they come out. In the meantime, here's the Elven Spellsinger from the Heroic Fantasy Handbook.Spellsinging is an alternative magic style that uses spell points and even allows to improvise spells that the character doesn't know... at a risk.It goes together with the Shaded Magic rules that classify *all* spells in the game as either White, Grey, or Black, and gives physical, spiritual, and mental corruption effects to those who cast Black spells. It's inspired by Tolkien and Howard. I've never run a campaign with this system, but I might one day.
>>98877176You gotta pick already.Is spamming ACKS not supposed to be trolling? Then why are you also saying you come here just to troll?If your plan was to spam ACKS and then act like you're not trolling, then you'd have to do it in a way where you don't keep having a meltdown whenever people start to shit on it, because it's a bad game and people are naturally going to do that.
>Mentioning games I don't like is inherently trolling, no one could possibly like things I don'tSeek help.
>>98877226
ACKS should be banned from both, penalty of offtopic-ban from mods, and get its own quarantine thread.
>>98877247Go tell the mods on IRC, quick! And post screenshots!
>>98877127You sound like a fucking idiot.
>>98876839I like this idea of taking the 50/50 classes and giving them their own name and chart instead of just calling them X/Y and rules how to mush the two charts together.Especially since only demi-human can do it anyways. It makes it feel more alien and different from humans dual-classing. It's a good opportunity to insert a lore block about what makes them unique.>>98876863this is nothing like 2e kits. 2e kits work more like pathfinder archetypes. I shudder that I have to stoop so low in speech, but "actual F.O.E. behavior"
>>98877294>2e kits work
>>98877294>I like this idea of taking the 50/50 classes and giving them their own name and chart instead of just calling them X/Y and rules how to mush the two charts together.Yeah, the genius of Macris is on full display here. He's simply taken the best of B/X and AD&D. It's not the rocket science kind of genius, to be clear, more like the Egg of Columbus one.Picture: Blood Hound an undead-construct. Remind me to talk about the ACKS monster classification in next thread.
>>98877226It's just more of that "want to have their cake and eat it too" logic that these trolls run on. They want the game to be political when they're promoting the game as a way to own the libtards, but then they immediately fall back to "why you guys getting political about this?" whenever they're called out on that. It's so cowardly. They want to upset people by spamming ACKS and make sure everyone understands they're trolling and hoping to kill threads with their obnoxious behavior, but they also don't want anyone to think that they're just petty trolls and the game is worthless for any real purpose and just kills any actual discussion, like it's done in the /osrg/.It's endless paradoxes like these, where they demand "TRVE GYGAXIAN GAMES ONLY" in order to try and get rid of many of the newer and more popular OSR titles like MorkBorg and Shadowdark that are increasingly in vogue, but they try to carve out their 3e-inspired, splat-and-rules-heavy abomination of a system, despite it being against the foundational core of the OSR. It's just layer after layer of hypocrisy, which is why most people just give up trying to deal with them. They can't be argued with because they don't operate with logic, so all that can be done is occasionally highlighting how fucking dumb they are and otherwise doing your best to avoid and ignore them.
>>98877294>this is nothing like 2e kits. 2e kits work more like pathfinder archetypes.I'm afraid I don't know the difference. Not that I care, mind you.Picture: Cairn Dweller. My group calls them "the fat wights"
>>98877348It's pretty funny that he doesn't even have imaginary friends, only imaginary enemies.
>>98877328I like the Cairn Dweller, but the Dakhanavar is better
>>98877318>>98877328>>98877368Oh I wouldn't call anything of what I'm seeing of this game genius.I just think it's a neat idea to toy with. I'm sure someone will eventually get the execution right.
>>98877247Counterpoint: ACKS should be promoted to the official game of this thread.
>>98877583Oh I wouldn't call anything of what I'm seeing of this game genius.That's incredibly generous.It looks like stuff ChatGPT churned out back when it would hallucinate every fifth sentence. It's so soulless and boring that it's actually scary to think that this is the stuff the ACKShill thinks is good. I'd hate to see what he thinks is bad if these are the high water marks.
>>98877626Seconded.
>>98877165>the last place that you haven't been run out ofLMAO you could cut the irony with a knifethis very thread exists only because you got run out of /osrg/ with your off topic sperg shit
>>98877368You can't post the Lesser Dakhanavar without posting the Greater Dakhanavar!>>98877655Don't feed the troll: Hide and report, and talk about the official game of this thread.
>>98877247>its own quarantine thread.That's what the /osrg/ has turned into, a containment thread for the ACKShills. And, even the ACKShills hate the hugbox they made.They spend more time in these threads than they do in their own thread, because even they're aware that no one wants to stay in an ACKShill containment thread, not even ACKShills.
>>98877655It exists because its easier to make a new thread then it is to bother dealing with obsessives samefagging retards. And, that's kind of why no matter what you try, no matter how obsessively and aggressively you try to shitpost your way to getting what you want, people are just going to keep doing what they do while you keep chasing after them, begging for their attention.
>>98877663That's great, but it can't beat the system or generating random Dragons. Here are their body shapes
>>98877675And here are their special abilities.
>>98877141>>98877241>We're not trolling! We're just mentioning a game we like! That's it!lol, you guys are such hypocrites.
>>98877208lmao>this is the Open OSR thread>however, anyone who mentions a particular OSR game is definitionally a troll>oh by the way though I started this thread explicitly because I got told to fuck off with my trolling of the OSR General by constantly trying to force a non-OSR game into itI could not make up this level of retardation, you're a real piece of hake
>>98877681Special abilities part 2. Sadly, Macris did not include a table to generate these randomly, but since there's 24 total, you can just roll one d24. Easy peasy.
>>98877682Hypocrisy is the defining quality of an ACKShill.
>>98877688And of course dragons with different special abilities yield different magic components!
>>98877691I thought it was being a coward chud.
>>98877695Those are combined with dragon colours to yield completely different combinations of magic components for each dragon. Pretty neat, huh?
>>98877226>Then why are you also saying you come here just to troll?AYRT and I've never said that. I thought this was a thread for open discssion of OSR games. ACKS is an OSR game (and it seems like the most popular one by far, ITT.) So...?
>>98877708It's not just the most popular, it's literally the only one being discussed.
>>98877319>ACKS... just kills any actual discussion, like it's done in the /osrg/>>98877665>That's what the /osrg/ has turned into, a containment thread for the ACKShillsMeanwhile in /osrg/:>nobody is discussing ACKS>current topics are Melan's new refereeing book, domain management (spun off from the above) and AD&D combat targeting
>>98877727Expecting accuracy from the mentally ill is a bit unfair anon.
Is there an ACKS supplement for solo players who don't have friends? Asking for >>98877711
>>98877727Why would we discuss ACKS on /osrg/ when there's this thread that is dedicated exclusively to it, silly
>>98877696That's just more hypocrisy.
This is one of my favourite monsters from ACKS. A Tokay Gull is a cross between a gull and a tokay gecko. They're adorable, they bark when enemies approach (like tokay geckos), and for this reason they're kept and bred by kobolds as guardians.I've used them in my dungeon and my players have a love-hate relationship with them.
man, thank god for filters.also, jesus christ this flooding loser must have absolutely no life.
>>98878242He's at over a hundred posts in this thread, the majority of them being ignored.He's probably made over a thousand posts explaining how he's not owned and how very un-upset he is at this point.
>>98878129>be troglodyte>6'6", 150 lbs of scaly reptilian mass>stealth penalty means parties never see it coming>stinking slimy coating makes the fighter puke before he even draws his sword>hurl barbed bone darts with a +3 attack bonus, then tear through whatever is left with natural weapons>best 2 HD beastman in the entire system>PC party breaks into our lair>I'm the only survivor>PCs decides to investigate our warren>finds out the secret behind our foul stench and supernatural aggression isn't dark magic or demonic pacts>we just had an ungodly barrel of heavily smoked cavern-trout fermenting in the back room this whole time>mfw when they sell it for profit in a nearby village
>>98878242>must have absolutely no life.And he likes to act like he wouldn't be bumping the /osrg/ with the same autism.
>>98878521Fish, don't TELL them you are ignoring them. Actually ignore them.
>>98878693ACKShill, you shitpost regardless of whether you're ignored or not.
>>98878702Read what >>98877811 said. I'm pretty sure he is being sincere.
>>98878242Jesus, that's how he spent his whole Sunday.
>>98878715ACKShill, you don't have a sincere bone in your body. Everything you say should always be treated as a lie first, because that's always the safer bet.There is literally no lie you won't try.
>>98878716>SundayThat's how he's been spending the last several months.You'd think he'd have figured out by now he hasn't been doing himself, his clique, or his game any favors.
>>98878725LMAOI can even tell you outright that I do it just to laugh at your screeching and drooling and you will STILL screech and drool. This makes it twice as satisfying. Actual clinical autism's a bitch.
>>98878736I heard another one of their group got themselves banned from Reddit so they're stuck trying to shill his new book in the /osrg/.I'm kind of amazed of how few of them there actually are and how they keep repeating each other's mistakes.
>>98878757Is THAT what happened?I was wondering why they were so upset this week.
>>98878757>>98878761But then why are they posting only on Open OSR and practically nowhere else on /tg/? What do they get from this?
>>98878766They're frustrated and upset. Also, everytime they try posting outside of the /osrg/ it doesn't really work out for them. Even in the Open OSR all that really happens is they add to the post count and make themselves look exactly like the kind of idiots that made the board turn against them.These are not clever people making smart moves. They're desperate guys self-sabotaging themselves by being dumb assholes and having no options beyond being dumb assholes.
>>98878777I think you're severely overestimating the importance of this thread. It's much more likely that they are doing this just to troll you.
>>98878766What would YOU do, if right before you drop your book you wake up to find you're banned from the biggest audience to promote your book?You'd be pretty mad.You probably wouldn't do smart things.
>>98878792ACKShill, this is pathetic, even for you.
>>98878800...or maybe it's the fact that you have been fighting with them for a long time, and now they're getting back at you by talking about the one thing that makes you the most angry.
>>98878800I was wondering why they were shilling "babies' first heartbreaker DMG" in the /osrg/ so hard and so... poorly.I didn't realize it's because they lost out on the Reddit market. That probably means a cascading effect too.What got him banned?
>>98878800If that happened to me, I'd just be confused and see why it was done in error and how it could be reversed, because I'm not the kind of person who would be dumb enough to say or do something that would deplatform me.I'm actually shocked it's happened again to these guys. They really just don't know how to not be stupid.
>>98878819>I was wondering why they were shilling "babies' first heartbreaker DMG" in the /osrg/ so hard and so... poorly.I looked at the pages they posted....getting banned from Reddit doesn't look like it was going to affect his sales very much.>What got him banned?Looking at the annoucement post, no official reason was given, but the most upvoted explanations are that it seems that people recently started using him as an excuse to start political trolling.Just a repeat of the same mistake they did with ACKS.
>>98878881>Looking at the annoucement post, no official reason was given, but the most upvoted explanations are that it seems that people recently started using him as an excuse to start political trolling.>Just a repeat of the same mistake they did with ACKS.Having these guys as your friends is one hell of an unlucky curse.
>>98878881Thanks for letting me know about Melan's new book! I haven't been checking out /osrg/ much recently, so I might not have realized it is available for ordering. It looks great!
>>98879006Gabor, I actually feel a little bad for you.You seem like a dumbass, but even you don't deserve having the kind of friends you do.
>>98878881I wonder who's gonna be next.
>>98879060The reason I like Gabor so much is he is a hobbyist. Trying to make a living off of RPGs is what gives people gender disphoria.
>>98878766There's an ACKS thread up right this minute.Fishfuckhead could have left it alone and people would've left him alone in turn, but if you go peak your big, hooked beak in you'll notice he didn't.That's the main problem Fish runs into. He wants the right to be able to fuck with and shit all over other threads and people without hesitation, but when the consequences follow him home with torches and pitchforks, he starts bitching about how he didn't do nuffin, while still continuing to engage in the same bullshit at the same time in the exact same posts.Words have no meaning for such a person, they're just magic spells he's trying to cast to get people to do what he wants, but because he's got the IQ of a pumpkin he can't model other peoples minds and therefore lacks the capacity for such manipulation.
>>98834858New Thread for anons!>>98880167
>>98878242Just report the filtered posts, jannies have cleaned up his mess before (they did a few days ago in this thread)
Last for 2e is not OSR.
>>98878757Would love to hear you explain exactly where you heard this from :-)It's not just some unsubstantiated bullshit you made up, correct?
>>98878766It has been openly stated many multiple times that we hate you, and this is retaliatory for you spending more than a year shitting in osrg and then getting kicked out by the mods. Apparently it's not enough for the rest of the internet to be safe for you, you have to come here and tell us that we need to behave like rpgnet and read it in order to conform to your sensibilities.
>>98878777>all that really happens is they add to the post countWelcome to 4chan you, you stupid fuck. What exactly do you think happens here?
>>98878881>I can't actually give any reason whatsoever as to why he was banned, so I will just vaguely gesture at people political posting and say that that was the reason! Holy shit you really are one retarded fuck.
>98867131 This one got deleted while all the surrounding posts stayed up, the jannies are astroturfing as usual. They really want to spin this as some sort of local organic edition war, they will leave up the posts that say nothing but then delete the pats that accurately explain the situation.On that note, is Finch’s OSR history still banned in the OSRG, or can we post it now? lmao
>>98881196Try crying to them on IRC again and let us know how that goes
