Ruling the Stars Edition>RPG Rulebookshttps://rentry.org/40kRPGLinks>Homebrew Collectionhttps://rentry.org/40RPGHB>WANG/Imperium Maledictum Newshttps://cubicle7games.com/blog/warhammer-40k>Bestiary, armoury, weapon quality and NPC databasehttp://www.40krpgtools.com/>Dark Heresy 2e Character Creator:https://apps.ajott.io/dh2chargen/>General 40kRPG Encyclopediahttps://www.scholaprogenium.com/>Offline Combined Armory (v6.48.161023)http://www.mediafire.com/folder/i3akv9qx9q05z>Make your maps look just like FFGshttps://www.mediafire.com/?laj4tr275fl2s09>40k Musichttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCm9WFeqTgvRvyRoGD8jVFVA?>40k Arthttps://40k.gallery/>Rogue Trader Shipbuilderhttps://redlar.itch.io/rogue-trader-ttrpg-ship-builder#News>HomebrewThere's a MEGA now with stuff in the homebrew collectionhttps://mega.nz/folder/ouxCVIJD#ZdGQx36Dg4I3GfM7-kyoYw>IM finally has a Bestiaryhttps://cubicle7games.com/en_EU/blog/warhammer-40000-roleplay-imperium-maledictum-macharian-adversary-guide-cover-reveal>Necromunda RPG cancelled potentially due to contract issues with Cubicle 7https://frontlinegaming.org/2026/10/09/gw-disappearing-the-new-necromunda-rpg/>Investigations in Dark Heresyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkbo3bXMKx0Previous: >>98773691What ships do your players own? Do they have a fleet? Would you let them have a fleet?
>>98808789>TQOne of my prospective players is an Iron Warriors Warpsmith. His stated goal is to carve out his own autonomous empire and mass-produce daemon engines and daemon ships. He's drawn up a template for minelaying, torpedo lugging daemonships, assembled and deployed in shoals to be unleashed upon imperial shipping and logistics trains.So now I have to figure out how to stat those.
>>98808789I took the board's advice & took the example ship Sabre & modified it to fit my vision of a Servitor Crewed warp skimmer.I am tentatively naming it the Dread Empyrean but my characters enemies & rivals curse it as the dreadful "Imp" as a play of its name
>>98809223How'd you mod it, aside from just Servitor Crew?
>>98809521Noise marines already exist. For everything else, there's Emperor's Children.
>>98809565You can't hide your sins, coward.
Do Kindreds of the same League ever fight one-another, or is that the sort of thing that gets the League leadership pissy?
>>98808588>Any ideas how to make a more interesting Slaanesh tech priest?Narcotics, sensorial fuckery, incremental increases through warp bullshit.My gripe with Slaanesh is about doing any one thing to 11 but because all of the other weird shit out there she "only" gets the horny shit, despite being an Eldar god weirdly enough.
>>98809283Took out the Luxury Passenger quarters, Reinforced Bulkheads, etc. Put in Servitor Crew & Crew Reclaimation & the Markov Warp Drive. I didnt have to shuffle too much. With time it should allow for swapping in more expensive upgrades to reduce space & power & allow for more fun components. Depending on how the story goes I may have the character in charge of the ship embrace having a regular crew. For now I really like that it feels isolated & lonely. It also fits the character's background/Dynasty options.
>>98810450>>98808588>Any ideas how to make a more interesting Slaanesh tech priest?Seems to me that you could do a lot with the AdMech's ideas about the weakness of flesh to have a Slaaneshi heretek obsessed with perfecting their own physical form via an extremely artfully crafted full-body prosthesis.I don't recall if that was the premise of pic related when I saved it from an old drawthread, but you get the idea. Just photoshop her robes purple or whatever.
>>98810826Bonus points if that started out as a male techpriest before embracing Slaanesh worship.
>>98810826>>98810861It should be an hermaphrodite body because Slaanesh.
>>98810450>>98810826That's the problem im running into, its just drugs, twisted perfection, or the nastier parts of slaanesh but no sex appeal. A regular slaanesh worshiper is gonna be fucked up but they'd have a thin layer of something appealing. An admech usually has already gotten rid of the sexy parts
Are redemptionist and/or frateris militia from blood of martyrs worth nabbing as alt career ranks in dark heresy?
>>98810826Given that Slannash is excess, I think the form need to be more uncanny. Think of a blow up doll, feminine exaggerated.
>>98811132>>98810826>>98810450>>98808588Something I've seen in at least one of the RPGs before is a slaanesh cult based around a desire to horde knowledge, remember slaanesh is excess and also manifests as that perfectionism thing, the example with an obsession about a magnum opus would be a good basis A tech-priest obssessed with building some kind of "perfect" device, constantly seeking out more and more specific materials or devices to build it, or as the knowledge example, gathers information he doesn't need, just to have it, even at the expense of other tech-priests or factions.So if your trying not to do the sex, drugs and visual perfectionism aspects, you can go the route of mental perfectionism/obsession resulting in the tech-priest impeding other groups, and exposing themselves and their followers to things best handled in small amounts at most.
>>98811376Its the opposite. I want them to be more sexy and less inhuman. Like your basic slaaneshi is a sexy monster with inhuman desires/obession. But admech are already inhuman so its harder to add the sexy. I can do the obsessive magnum opus, or the hoarding, etc. thats fine. The part im struggling with is how to make it sexy. And not just by making them a tranny/hermaphrodite/etc that part is inhuman and not sexy
>>98811227What is the game like?
>>98811283I'd go the other direction and have it look like a weird creepy doll
>>98811769>>98810826What if they look like a hot woman, but when they show their "true self" they kind of fold & unfurl & twist into a mechanical cronenberg monster? Like the human form is just a shape thats disguising a bio-mechanical spider thing? He hips & waspish waist actually hides a narcotic stinger/mandible the legs dont even attach to her torso the way it would normally, their actually multi jointed spider legs connected to a thorax hidden behind her torso.Does that sort of thing sound good?
>>98811551well y'know I wanted to go for more of a fire and brimstone fighter-cleric type character and on the surface both of those careers seemed like a step in that direction, so I was just wondering if anyone had experience with them and if taking one or both would help achieve said character idea
>>98811398>The part im struggling with is how to make it sexy.Vatgrown bodies that they constantly swap through as they get upset with them being 'not perfect'.
>>98811398>Admech can't "the sex"Magos Biologis, send tweet
>>98811398>>98811942I did find it funny that chem geld was a talent you could taker in dark heresy and it was in the tech-priest advances
>>98811942Biologis are usually as fucked up as normal tech-priests, they just sometimes have vat grown chitin instead of hard metal plates or whatever.
>>98811922Nice.
>>98808789>What ships do your players own? Do they have a fleet? Would you let them have a fleet?My current team has a burgeoning fleet they've acquired through piracy. It is sure to get bigger as time goes on.
>>98812544>Dervish-class Multibeam FrigateYour party's been pirating across dimensions and stolen a ship from the Homeworld universe?
>>98812565I have no idea what you mean :^)Yes, it's the HW1 multibeam frigate with the name of the HWC multibeam frigate because multibeam frigates are cool
>>98808789Been ages now since I played a game of Rogue Trader, but the last one had the party operating a nearly derelict Repulsive-class Grand Cruiser that had spent a few centuries contracted out as an orbital trading dock by the RT's incompetent father. The campaign started with us reactivating its reactor and warp drive, and the overarching goal over the course of the campaign (alas, all too short) was to restore it to full working order.
>>98809565There's slaanesh worshipping marines aside from EC. Can't believe I'm needing to tell anon this but that's the state of /tg/ these days.
>>98812676Yeah, and you don't call them fucking Slaan-marines, do you?
>>98813228Why not? We call aligned beastmen Khorngors and Slaangors.
Is there a way to get multiple comrades outside of being in a specific role like enginseer prime or commander that has such an advance?
>>98815461Not multiples at once. There's a talent that lets you get a different type of comrade, Unusual Companion, but you're still limited to one at a time outside of certain specialization talents.
Is there any good place to get 40k themed battlemaps?
How does the Imperium depict daemons? Some of the older stories and novels will describe preachers with bound daemon tattoos or gargoyles shaped like daemons. I want to know what to describe these as looking as for my group without telling them something like "it looks like a bloodletter"
>>98816010Most Versions don't get to depict them at all
>>98816010Imperial religious art tends to be pretty abstract/allegorical. I don't think you'd ever see anything meant for public display that accurately depicted the appearance of an actual daemon.
>>98816010I think depictions of daemons that are vaguely correct will get that area grey knighted
>>98816010Daemons dont exist. Those are xenos
>>98816010It's unlikely that most art will accurately depict common demons. Sometimes it does, but it's rare.>want to know what to describe these as looking as for my groupLook at the Word Bearer sigil. Demon head.
>>98816407>>98816539It occurs to me that intentionally depicting daemons incorrectly in materials disseminated among the general public would be a great way for the Inquisition to identify heretics: If you spot a work of art that instead depicts a daemon as it really appears, you'd know the artist has actually seen one, and then it's off to the torture chamber he goes.
>>98816584And anyone that gets it right by luck gets purged just in case.
If a Votann plasma sword strikes a Imperial power sword, what happens? Which one cuts the other?
>>98819147Power swords use disruption fields which, as per their name, 'disrupt' the atomic bonds holding materials together. This generally leads to those materials becoming far weaker and more brittle, which when followed up by the typical kinetic strike vastly magnifies its effects.Plasma swords appear to be your typical magnetic field containing extremely hot, well, plasma, which uses tried and true extreme exposure to heat to accomplish similar effects.If they strike edge to edge, the disruption field will meet first plasma, to which it does nothing because plasma is by nature disorganized, and then the emitter, which it will break. The plasma will meet the disruption field, clash against it, and begin superheating the underlying material.There are two possibilities. One, the containment field for the plasma is permeable to the power sword. This will pit the respective energy sources against the respective emitters - if the disruption field and kinetic force can damage the containment field generator before the plasma can superheat and destroy the material of the power sword, the power sword wins. I consider this likely.Two, the plasma containment is not permeable to the power sword. In this case it will be field against field. The plasma may begin to affect the underlying material of the power sword at the point of contact, but this will be negligible compared to the interaction between disruption and containment field. Field power output, efficiency, and quality of construction and maintenance will carry the day, overcome the other field, and effectively neutralize the other weapon.Or, given this is 40K, the author will decide ahead of time who he wants to win and then work backwards from there to justify it.
>>98819147The imperial one wins because GW considers votann a xenos faction and xenos are forbidden from winning against a human faction.
>>98819959>GW considers votann a xenos factionBecause... That's what they are? Ratlings are the abhumans, Squats have always been nonhumans.
>>98820000They're physically a grey area between abhuman and xenos, but for rules purposes they are basically a xenos empire at this point.
There are some ships in rogue trader that despite having hull stats they're just NPC ships huh? I thought the viper sloop was cool and thought about stacking detection mods on top of the innate +25 but man it's so tiny, there is no room in the ship at all
>>98820863They're there for the possibility of themed games, like the viper's case is to be an advance scout for a fleet. It's not meant for regular RT games.
>>98819959>>98820034>>98820000The Votann were supposed to be a few different things.They were supposed to be squats unsquattedThey were supposed to be a human power that exists outside the ImperiumThey were supposed to be less terrible than the Imperium with "fresher" tech & less xenophobiaWhether they succeeded in hitting those three in a satisfying way is a matter of opinion. Its kinda like why they did Primaris Marines.>>98819147I figure the lava blade plasma field stuff is similar enough to a power field that the fields would clash & need to overcome the other before they could do anything to the physical parts
Does IM have jetpacks?
>>98822920It doesn't have mahreens or eldar, so no.
>a broad array of pleasures or a combination to satisfy their wildest desiresAm I reading between the lines right that this is a holo-deck?
>>98823393A higher quality one might be, but I'm imaging more like an arcade + opium den + strip club.
>>98823401That's kind of what I wanted more than a holo deck. Sweet
>>98823393Thats a opium den/trap house not a holodeck
>>98819147This is a “What happens if a Beskar sword hits a lightaber” question and it has the exact same answer: the two swords spark where they touch, but neither breaks the other.
Is luminen blasts decent enough as weapons to allow a techpriest to forgo standard weapons? Is there a way to optimize them?
>>98824648If you feel comfortable enough walking around the dark galaxy with just a pistol level weapon, sure.
>>98819147Good chance it breaks the weaponEven a Lathes Blade can't stop it, despite stopping a power weapon
Aside from The Minotaur and the Marines Malevolent are their any loyal forces that are hated by the rest of the Imperium?
>>98824773Flesh Tearers have a reputation for being so uncontrollable in their rage that they’ll strike down civilians and allies without realizing it. Really, any BA successor with a reputation for violence is at least feared, if not outright hated.
>>98824773Penal Legions
>>98824759Where are you pulling the ruling that a Votann blade can destroy a lathe blade?
I want to create a "Barbarian" chapter whose gene-seed fault is that their black carapace doesn't work so they can't use power armor. However, their ossmodula and biscopea are hyperactive, so they grow into hulking musclemen. They go into battle barechested and are favor fighting on feral worlds and death worlds. My question is, would a chapter with a failure of such an important part of what makes a space marine a space marine be allowed to exist by Imperial authorities, or would they be culled as failures? Would the Imperium willingly waste resources on giving this chapter the legistical support they need (Battle Barges, AdMec support, etc.) Oh, also, has this super original idea (Conan Marines) been done already?
My people don't know the leader of the Dead Cabal is also Grand Admiral of the Dark Pattern and Lord of the High Slung Bottoms of Zob
>>98825007>Power armour faction without power armour.That really subverted my expectations!
>>98825046I feel there is a joke here I'm too Gen Z to get.
>>98825007That's an absolutely insane level of gene seed degredation, so no, they'd probably be purged and even if somehow they weren't nobody would respect them or give them anything.
>>98825146>>98825105Yeah, yeah, I thought as much. Here's the totally original write-up I've done for them.
>>98824773PsykersBlanksNavigators
>>98824652Some of you guys act like anything other than poor acolytes bumming around is forbidden. Anything stronger than an out of the box lasgun is power gaming. God forbid you add a few mods to it like some dirty munchkin
>>98824773Penal legions
>>98826460I’m not saying it is forbidden, but in. A properly run DH 1.0 session, that character would be lucky to make it to the intermission.
>>98825524>>98825007The problem here isn't breaking official lore, it's that you're stripping a faction of its main appeal which is exaggerated superstrong power armour. The main question is kinda what's the point?If you want Conan in 40k, there are other factions where the concept doesn't go against what makes the faction cool.
>>98825007Instead of taking space marines and removing their space marine bits, have you tried creating a tribe of ogryn that worship the image of space marines and try to emulate them?
>>98826529I’ll ask you then which faction should I go with? They started as a Catachan offshoot but I felt they didn’t reach the sorts of superhuman levels of Conan that I was going for. I also felt inspired by the note in the Deathwatch core rule book that the black carapace mutation shouldn’t be taken ever. As they say, the most beautiful part of a painting is the frame. >>98826539Conan is not retarded. He is actually exceptionally intelligent and solves most of his problems with brain rather than brawn. In the Howard stories he spends most of his time outsmarting his foes and only decapitating them at the end. Conan is not an Ogryan. He is a Space Marine without his armor.
>>98826562I don't give a fuck about conan. I'm trying to wedge your wack-ass idea into something resembling canon. Fluff it as a smarter than average subspecies and quit getting your knickers in a twist.I'd tell you to go make a chapter who crash-landed on a feral world and lost all their tech, but tech is required to make more space marines, so that plot's stillborn.
>>98826595Too bad cunt, the Wise Woman loves having her crippled Astartes devoted to her personal crusade for a sector for no Strategic value (seemingly). I’m gonna keep writing about them.
>>98826628If you don't like the answers you're getting, stop asking.
>>98826628Then fuck off unless you talk about real 40k. Nobody cares about your alt universes. People like you exist because people in this thread don't gatekeep real 40k hard enough.
>>98826663>>98826667Thanks for the feedback
>>98826595Thinking on it further, crash-stranded marine chapter has legs if you flavor the 'getting new recruits' in a more techno-shaman way (and massively increase attrition rates to compensate), but this obviously restricts their playground to that singular planet, with the sole exception of webway gates. It's also being very generous with smudging the requisite surgeries.I'm not gonna read whatever lore was posted because the premise breaks suspension of disbelief.>inb4 "your suspension of disbelief can include [insert aspect of 40k] but not this?"
>>98826804What the absolute fuck are you talking about? Space Marine reproduction requires intense Mechanicus cooperation, they cannot exist beyond a single generation without Mars
>>98825007They could be Techno-Barbarian dudes the admech engineered. Not quite astartes, but just a bunch of enhanced genetic humans fighting on a sword & sorcery deathworld that plays out like the Hyborian Age.
>>98826562I think Gland Warriors could be a basis for your stuff. That was my first thought when you talked about the concept.
>>98826904Space marine chapters are theoretically self-sustaining after their establishment. Apothecaries handle the 'make new marines' bit, Techmarines handle the 'make new wargear' bit. Galactic attrition rates are the reason they need constant influxes of materials from forge worlds, as well as the reason they die.Now, assuming a chapter's battle barge gets caught in a time vortex and thrown into a Feral World in undisclosed M3X-ish timeframe, irrevocably stranding them on said world out of contact with the wider Imperium but failing to destroy them utterly, they may degenerate sufficiently over time to fall first to a questing knights sort of society where they bring out their advanced wargear only when needed, and then to a techno-barbarian style of society where what technology remains is myth and legend only, plus the odd 'magic sword' found or granted to heroes.However, as I said,>It's also being very generous with smudging the requisite surgeries.The surgeries to become a marine are incredibly intensive, and even with imperial tech there's a massive attrition rate. If Apothecary knowledge degenerates to 'cut them open with flint knives and implant the weird organs while chanting the rites', that attrition rate is going to skyrocket unless the Apothecaries are also Librarians with a specialty in biomancy. Which, fuck it, might work as a concept. Who the hell knows, I'm just playing "what if" to see if there are any legs to this nonsense.
>>98826984Gland Warriors are IG at a much lower sophistication level than marines, unless I’m misremembering 5e a lot
>>98825524This reads like a reddit post, or maybe even a cs goto book. You should be embarrassed.
>>98826930Ad Mek sponsoring technobarbarians?
>>98827156>Take a tithe of guys & raise them on a death world until they develop good strong genes>Poke & prod their genome every so often.>????>Profit
>>98825130ntaIts from Black Adder, not actually a show about dark future things, just a christmas episode bit riffing on the ghost of christmas future (which I suppose you might also not have reference to) Might not work for you, its a specific flavor of british humour and serialized sitcom characters some like but don't age well imo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfYx_013UuY
>>98827563Why waste gene-seeds on such an experiment? Are they that abundant you can just throw them around as such?
hey /40krpg/, i wanna start up my only war campaign again but i kinda wanna do something a little different for a few sessionsi wanna have an intermission campaign where their squad is 'requisitioned' by an inquisitor for something but i dont know what an inquisitor would need just one squad of shitkickersim taking all suggestions. a few ideas ive had are tracking down a dangerous heretic in a hive, something involving the beast house, or maybe just throwing them into a chunk of one of the modules and see what happensthe benefit of this is that it'd be stretching my GM skills a bit and it would let me put them into a much more active warzone later as their regiment would have been stuck in for however long
>>98827722In his 40k-like custom universe, they are!
>>98827722When did I mention gene-seed?
>>98827760Guard duty for sure.Youre either guarding a person or a macguffin or just there for ceremonial reasons/to look good.Up to you if the Inquisitor is making the job more complicated than that. Is he expecting you to fail? Are you guarding a fake? Will the private impregnate the dukes daughter while guarding her chambers?
>>98827760>but i dont know what an inquisitor would need just one squad of shitkickersPrevious squad got mercd horribly and time is short so the inquisition grabs whatever is near by. Could be any number of things. >initial investigation into chaos/xenos/necron tomb went poorly, unleashed fell powers, need to go back in and unfuck it >team uncovered well positioned cult about to complete ritual or coup or similar thing, got betrayed by unknown snitch and car bombed. Inquisitor needs a new hit team immediately. >The poor bastards are the bait. Inquisitor needs a violent distraction while the real operatives go in the back or take out whoever comes to fuck up the guard. Bonus is the bait reveals a different inquistor at opposed purposes. >The inquistor's interrogator had some doubts and has gone rogue, took the violence team with him. Needs to take them out, the various members of the warband may not even know. >Needs an infected host for some sort of xenos horror to put into stasis for later use. Isn't going to waste their own high value assets.
>>98826460Necroing a little but was just scrolling through and saw this. Anon is literally saying the opposite. Lumen blast is not strong enough to forgo traditional weapons, even a lasgun would probably be better. Out of anyone in the party, the techpriest *should* be toting the fanciest techiest gun, not just shock paddles in his palms.
>>98824964read the damn image under energy blade 2nd paragraph.
>>98829332Questionable at best which attribute trumps the other. The Energy Blade is listed as "Class: Melee (Power)" in this image, while the Lathe Blade paragraph includes "a Lathe Blade cannot be destroyed by the effects of a power field."
>>98829343SECOND PARAPGRAPH>Whenever a wielder successfully Parries another weapon while using an energy blade and succeeds with two or more degrees of success, the wielder automatically destroys theother weapon. Seems to dfficult to read, I'm getting flashbacks of those euro dumb-dumbs who couldn't understand comes and semi-colons.
>>98829365Ntab >>98829343>Lathe Blade cannot be destroyed by the effects of a power field.Who can't read?
>>98829365NTA but the effects do not reference each other and it leaves ambiguity.Power Field states a 75% chance to destroy a weapon it parries if said weapon lacks the Power Field quality. Lathe Blade clearly has an exception to this effect, but are we to take it that the Sollex-Aegis lacks the normal exception to this clause in other power weapons, or is that implied by it being a power weapon? Is the destruction intended as a modification of the innate 75% chance to 100%, or is it fully intended to be separate, with even other power weapons vulnerable?RAW, you can argue that it's two separate effects which should be treated differently, but can you not also argue that this destruction is an effect of a power field, and thus a Lathe Blade should be impervious to it?Furthermore, are the Votann weapon and the Sollex-Aegis blade truly comparable when one is said to have no physical 'blade' at all, and the other clearly has one? Does the Votann blade have any similar rule on the tabletop to back up that interpretation, or is it simply treated as an alternatively flavored power blade?
The Energy Blade is a power weapon with special rules, so even a Lathes blade would be broken by it.Both are in the inquisitor's handbook, go watch, do what you want, but an energy blade would break a lathes blade, since it is, again a power weapon '+1' being a plasma beam instead of a power field.The Votann blade is no where they were still Squats back then, and much more better.
>>98829432>much more betterOh yeah dis boy read and rite gud
Given how Tau have souls that aren't bright enough to attract daemons what would happen if one tried to attract the attention of a warp god? Would it be able to notice one?
>>98821100>less xenophobia>space dwarves
Can a cyclonic warheads be used in a mine? How about Virus bombs? I've only ever seen them launched from ships in orbit but I wonder if they could be buried and activated remotely.
>>98829880With the demolitions skill anything is possible, don't let your dreams be memes
>>98829830They’ve got their own warp god now, the warp embodiment of the Greater Good
>>98829830>Tau have souls that aren't bright enough to attract daemonsThat's true of humans too. Psykers are the exception.
How tall are eldar supposed to be?
>>98829830Just have to work at it harder. Farsight's been having deamon prince dreams for years and pretending causing mass carnage ontop of a weird altar is just a good tactic.
>>98825007Lorelet!SoB can use light power armour without having the Black Carapace.The purpose of the Black Carapace is to reduce the penalties that would otherwise be incurred by wearing heavy power armour.There is a version of MIU known as a SIU that that is specifically intended to allow normal humans to operate heavy power armour but it doesn't reduce the penalties for wearing it, unlike the deeper connection provided by the Black Carapace's interface.While your "Conan" marines would be unable to use proper marine suits, they could use the less sophisticated versions that are provided to other Imperial factions.
How dangerous and hard to cage would a small number of hormagaunt or rippers be? I had an idea of some being found on a supply ship and being kept in a room that people would throw food waste into because the garbage area was being used to hold cargo. Not sure if this would work or not just an idea I thought up.
Are there any background packages or alternate ranks in dark heresy that would allow a combat class like an assassin or guardsman to be a 'face' or at least have social skills? As fun as just being a combat character can be I want to contribute more than just that to the team. And something like an assassin seducing targets is a classic device
>>98832910There are infinite amounts of safer and more efficient xenoforms that could accomplish the same thing. Those other xenoforms wouldn't need an active tyranid infestation to sustain themselves. Rippers are the scavenging mechanisms of the hive, they're birthed in slurry pools, stuff their guts, and jump headlong into digestion vats. This requires infrastructure which can be used to produce any other tyranid.Maybe refrain from using the galactic devourers as a garbage can.
>>98832924Check the Noble background; the "dilettante duelist" and "deadly dandy" are stereotypes that both work well with it.
>>98833750The ship my characters are on recently fled a world under Tyranid attack so I wondered if it could work. I'll drop the idea then, thanks for the answer. I'm still learning about the setting.
>>98832910>>98833750That's basically what the Grox is for. It's a livestock animal kept by the Imperium that can eat nearly anything and produces tasty meat, though it's somewhat dangerous if it gets loose.
>>98833811Cheers mate, remember you can always wiki-crawl through lexicanum, or 1d6chan if you want memes. Don't skimp on the sourcebooks either.
Sup anons newfag here trying to get into warhammer board game. Is this the place or should I go to another post?
>>98834035Are you looking for the miniature wargame or the roleplaying game? This is the thread for the roleplaying game. The other general is for the minis.
>>98834092Thanks I’m here for the minis. I’ll refer to the other thread.
>>98832753I think perhaps there is a reason Scouts went into battle with light carapace armor rather than power suits. Sure, that was the mission set, but it also seems likely that for an augmented Astartes, they would be more hindered than helped by non-Astartes power armor. A chapter of Conan Marines going into battle naked rather than with scout carapace armor is a chapter of larpers who have lost the plot and probably wouldn’t survive their first campaigns against any of the other named factions.
>>98830630Not that tall. They’re taller than your average human, around 2m or so, but they’re still shorter than even firstborn space marines
>>98834584They have the same height as voidborn & for the same reasons. Exodites are actually all cute short stacks
>>98832753Don't sisters also use implants now?
>>98834764Nothing that your average Imperial Commander or Nobleman wouldn’t have. Things like eye replacements and youth rejuvenation therapies. Nothing on the level of Space Marine organs.
>>98834764Sure as shit not geneseed implants, and nothing to the degree of cybernetic implants a skitarii would have
>>98826562>I also felt inspired by the note in the Deathwatch core rule book that the black carapace mutation shouldn’t be taken ever.It doesn't say that. It says that the Chapter with such a mutation is DOOMED and will never be allowed to propagate. They would be instantly put down, most likely by the Minotaurs on the orders of the High Lords of Terra.
What would be a good High Gothic term for a vow of chasity? So far I can only come up with an oath of chastricity.Or should I stop trying to be cute and just say my minister has a vow of chasity?
>>98830630>You'll never accidentally brush your head against the bottom of an Eldar woman's chest.
>>98836582Castitudic Oath-Bond of Purity
>>98836641Im too busy looking down her cleavage because im not a manlet. Mechanicus gene-mods are the bestHeight in 40k denotes how important you are for the most part. If youre not 7+ youre nobody
>>98836678What the absolute fuck. That is not the picture I selected.
Am I wrong or does the Lascannon on IM seem like the most OP gun? 18 damage & Pen 10 it can drop most things with no problem. Not even the best Meltas come close on damage & the Lascannon has Extreme Range so it's like a sniper rifle too. Only drawback is its an Ordinance weapon with Heavy 4 so its big & you arent hiding it, but that can be mitigated. If you use the admech book you can even add traits/damage with a decent Lore Test to justify it, or even get it annointed so it kills daemons even better. As long as youre not trying to sneak it in your skirt to meet some hive ganger boss that one weapon will easily out damage everything l else. If you make it a Combi-Weapon with a grenade/missle launcher youre golden. You could even install it on a servitor/familiar.Something i think would be cool is to have a small group of hirelings/familiars/underlings sitting in a truck following the players a mile or two away. They all have big guns aimed at the back door of the truck ready to fire. The psyker of the team could then open a portal between the battlefield & the truck with Gate of Infinity, & tell the fireteam which targets to light up as they shoot through the portal. You could even make it a vertical portal right above the enemy's zone if you wanted.
Can a voidship component be brought down to zero space or zero power through Craftsmenship Bonuses or anything like that?
>>98837621No, unless it had 0 space or power to begin with, I believe it states that specifically in the section on component craftsmanship in BFK.
>>98825007Why not make them gland hounds? I mean the mildly heretical ones the imperium uses not the mega heretical ones Fabius Bile has seeded across the imperium.They wouldn't fit not because they are actively hostile to the imperium but because they worship the pater mutatis and carry on his teachings in the dark. Waiting to arise as the new men.
>>98837643Ah, thank you I found it there now. Im wondering just how full you can pack a voidship given ridiculous amount of cash
>>98835864Sounds like a great way to be a blackshield running scout armor.
>>98836912>400 solars per shot.That's your average daily wage for a party of four per shot you take.
>>98838026Tech priest can charge it up or just install it into a servitor/yourself for infinite ammo. Its not exactly a weapon for just starting out, but one for once you get your feet under you, something to work towards. Something more to show that its time for the big guns, not just for wasting hive skum
>>98837817Depends on the ship class. The biggest sinks of space are the engines, weapons, and crew quarters.
>>98838072>>98836912At that point, you're basically having to contend with socio-political and operational concerns, not weapons stats.If you're a rich/important enough person that you can get the Adeptus Mechanicus to build you a custom upgraded combi-lascannon, fit it with a self-contained reactor, and install it in a servitor, there's a very real question of what the fuck you're doing in a situation where you'd need something like that. You'd have to be a high-ranking nobleman, a general, an Inquisitor, a Rogue Trader, etc. to have that much pull with the AdMech. So why are you personally doing going out there with your lascannon servitor instead of requisitioning a tank and a hundred guardsmen to go out there instead?
I thought I could cheat the system by putting the 3 magazine gun mod on a dueling las pistol only to see it's only for SP and bolt weapons. I guess I will have to go with my original plan of buying several and wearing them like a pirate
>>98838156Buy a bandolier of 'em and load 'em with hotshot backs. The downside of only one shot per becomes nonexistent and you gain a massive lethality buff. Just be sure to max your quickdraw.
>>98838143A regular admech character with the Familiar Talent (twice to get a sevitor) could get that without too much trouble.He can craft the gun himself & everything
>>98838311Dueling lasers are already single shot and can't take hotshots (but are pen 4 which is nice).
>>98838345No such restriction in later systems.
>>98838363We don’t do degenerate systems
>>98840188>everything after DH1e is degenerateI'll admit that's a new take to me. What's your opinion on Black Industries?
Is the main reason AI is banned in the Imperium is because of the Men of Iron or is it because it makes tech easier for chaos corruption?
>>98841052Its because of Dune
>>98841052The Imperium neither fully understands what AI is nor exactly why it is forbidden. The ban existed in the Omnissian religion before the Emperor allied himself with Mars and probably relates to the AI rebellion, which is itself an obscure bit of history that few people know about. Explanations in the 40K era are dogmatic, inferred, or speculative. It's banned first and foremost because of tradition. In reality, many existing technologies may used limited forms of AI that the Mechanicus don't recognize as such. AIs that exist may turn against their creators for mundane reasons or may be corrupted by the Warp (or knowledge of it) like any being with a mind.
>BC>9th or so session, they have like 2400 xp from base handbook>give Weirdboy TN 50 force field and like TB 8, 24 wounds>basic CSM charges him and gets 8 degrees of success on chainsword attack with Lightning Attack and a chainsword>lose 3 coinflips>dead instantlyWhat's the best way to make boss type characters actually able to eat some shit? There's nothing wrong with just giving something like 40 wounds or way more armor than the players can achieve realistically, right?
>>98843123Mooks that sandbag."Bosses" are a shitty narrative contrivance. Don't use them like some cheap anime bullshit
>>98843149Anon you're talking about the franchise where Epic Heroes can easily eat multiple turns of bolter and las shooting on the tabletop and the books are filled with main characters doing absurd thingsDon't be a faggot
>>98843123Big monster things
>>98843178He gave the objectively correct answer. Put a single enemy against your players and they'll find a way to one-turn him. If you want a fight to feel meaningful, you have to give them multiple targets which are each individually a threat so the big bad can do cool things without being instantly focused down.
>>98843123>What's the best way to make boss type characters actually able to eat some shit?The boss gets a full action and a reaction for each player, but the boss can only use that action on the player whose turn is next. This way, the boss is never out-actioned, and it allows a focus on each player when it's their go. If needed, the boss can summon additional adds as needed at the start of each round, but these can only attack at the end of each round, rewarding good add control while ensuring a target rich environment.
Is there any lore on what areas of combat the Crystal Dragons or Ebon Talons specialize in?
>>98829432How can I play more Squats in these RPGs? Anyone got homebrews for these types of Squats? Votann is fine, but old school Squats were really cool.
I stopped playing 40k rpgs around when Wrath and Glory came out. How's the newest uh.... Edition, whatever it's called?
>>98845737Imperium Maledictum has a few bumps but overall it's a pretty good successor the FFG line. Sadly since it's the new thing it doesn't have as much mechanical glut that the FFG line has so it's a little harder to justify if you've got all your FFG stuff still.However, with time I think it'll be on par once the Rogue Trader and Imperial Guard/Navy books come out.Though it does have a slight issue that by default it expects your party to never actually want to be Inquisitors or Rogue Traders or Imperial Guard generals as PCs but only attain those after campaign when they get NPC'd for the next campaign's set of dudes.That's probably the only stumbling block I see the game having is you're only ever supposed to want to play the scalpels of the moves and shakers of the world but not want to actually play them.Considering the Necromunda RPG is now MIA if they can put the Recidivist book out that'd be pretty cool too.
>>98845823>Considering the Necromunda RPG is now MIA?
>>98845888GW was planning to release an official Necromunda RPG with official miniatures, but they forgot they gave the RPG rights to Cubicle 7, who sued them. GW then scrubbed the necromunda RPG off the internet until the legal hubbub dies down.
>>98845895How does a notorious i dotter and t crosser like gw forget something like that?
>>98845823Can you be a Space Marine?
>>98845823I hate the IM always seems to come very close to what I want but always dodges at the last second. Higher level play is a must. Along with more content in general.They also keep gucking up admech stuff like the lack of MIU weapon or no machine trait etc. Psyker powers as well got pretty nerfed. The game is way too shy at letting you be powerful or have options that are too good.
>>98845954They saw Cubicle 7 as a dog, and they thought they could slap the dog because they were its master. The dog happened to bite back this time.Since C7 isn't based in britain they probably hit an EU regulation they missed, its the only thing that makes sense
>>98845977Retard post
>>98845977No retard. Marines barely have any personality as it is. How are you going to realistically roleplay? They train 20+ hours a day or they are fighting an active war zone. Might as well be a Spacehulk build a dungeon type board game.All the other factions at least have some space to run around in narratively. IM actually had the best idea of mostly copying the FFG Dark Heresy style but making the Patron be any big name organization. Now you can run a war game or an investigation game or a general adventure game with different characters using the same mechanics without problems. The only thing the need to do is raise the ceiling on character power/options so you could be something like a Rogue Trader with your own power & resources, working with an Inquisitor or any real combination of powerful people helping other powerful people. I expect an "Ascension" book at some point.
>>98846628>Marines barely have any personality as it is.Deathwatch used to work fine until nucanon destroyed space marines.
>>98846628>dur hur it's impossible to RP as a space marineI wonder what glaringly obvious hole is immediately apparent in this take
>>98815683???
>>98847004>nucanon destroyed space marines.Describe oldcanon marines vs. Nucanon marines. When is the cutoff?
>>98847027And what do you DO in deathwatch?>>98847004Details? Because space marines have always been very devoid of most personality. Thats what all the hypno indoctrination is about. Sure, named characters have some charm to them, but most battle brothers are just mission focused soldiers. Theres not enough thematic breathing room for anything else
>>98847112>>98847352The cutoff is when ashes of the Imperium came out which changed hypno-indoctrination, turning loyalist marines into unthinking biological automata and proving chaos correct the entire time (that legionaries actually WERE superior to modern marines).
>>98847461Legionaries (loyalist or otherwise) ARE superior to standard marines. Everything was better in 30k than it is in 40k. Thats the POINT of 40k. I remember way back when people actually theorized that bolters were just industrial bolt guns/nail guns because technology had devolved & degraded so much. So yeah, 40k marines are a degenerate form of the Legionaires by far. Less free of thought. Less personable. All of them a lesser diluted form of their primarch to begin with.But tell me what non-combat role-playing is anyone doing in Deathwatch? Stuff that isnt "you sit in the Battle Barge/Fortress Monestary for a few weeks, what do you do to pass the time"?
>>98847831>But tell me what non-combat role-playing is anyone doing in Deathwatch?Years ago, in Republican Commando, my players helped plan and lead the sector's BOYNEXTDOOR Festival, where they got to improve the morale of a crusade's guardswomen through displays of oiled wrestling, cryotechnics, mongolian throat singing, dreadnought dancing, and more. Every guardswoman was certified loyal after watching such a display.
Is there a more scientific method for translating ship stats from Rogue Trader to Battlefleet Gothic beyond vibes based approximation?
>>98848053Check the custom starship conversion tables in The Fringe is Yours. Those convert from BFG to RPG, but they might be able to be used in reverse.
>>98847831>people actually theorized that bolters were just industrial bolt guns/nail gunsImpressively retarded. Did they not bother reading any of the books? Boltguns have been clearly described as they are back as far as Laserburn.
>>98847896This is something that is so off-canon, it’s anti-canon. Why even play DW if you’re doing shit like that?
>>98848262>its not REAL 40k unless you're always firing bolter while grunting BROTHER every 3 seconds while following a GW approved LOOOOORE scriptfuck off themefag nobody likes you
>>98848275Correct, tourist
>>98848256NTA but that kind of theory was very popular on old /tg/. IIRC another theory was that one of the tanks, the land raider maybe, was just a repurposed agricultural tractor. You still see some echoes of this in the "DAOT humanity would body the whole setting instantly" sentiment that crops up to this day.
>>98848333DAOT humanity WOULD body the setting. Just like non-fallen Eldar or unfucked Necrons. Everyone has run down considerably. The galaxy is just nothing but fallen empires killing each other over the ashes. Is like if we fucked up our own shit so bad we started killing each other using AK-47s & AR-15s & whatnot as clubs because we dont even understand that they were rifles but we know that they were great weapons in the "before times"
>>98848256See what I mean? >>98848390
>>98848333DAoT would body most other scifi settings out there. And the Landraider was an armoured exploratory vehicle, not a heavy tank, it just happens that by the 41st millennium tech has degraded so far that it is seen as a heavy assault tank. Just like how Terminator armour was originally a protective suit for reactor maintenance workers, and was not considered a military asset at all.>>98845823I really dislike its lack of granularity. You have 5, iirc, power levels with 1 being a grot and 5 being a chapter master or carnifex and everything else has to slot in between those. It's also massively simplified in comparison to FFG games but gains little from it gameplay wise.
>>98848053The RPG adds a lot of room for differentiation, then populates that new room. BFG lacks that room, so a lot of ships are going to feel very samey if not identical.
>>98849368BFG only has two categories, Escort and Line Ship. The armada game adds a third, Titanship. The RPG separates Escorts into Raiders and Frigates, and Line Ships into Light Cruisers, Cruisers, and so on. Even then, only the escorts are tough. The Line Ships are separated enough to make conversion less of a pain.
>>98849727>BFG only has two categories, Escort and Line Ship.False. Battleships were their own category and had different rules. Arguably you could have attack craft as a 4th type.
I was looking through the Imperial Maledictum book and I feel like I'm missing something, wasn't there a power that let you add extra success levels to a test?
>>98849863Attack craft were considered ordnance, alongside torpedoes.
>>98850031Yes, hence >arguably because it acts differently on the table than torpedo ordnance but shares some of the same rules. There's not distinction between light cruisers, heavy, grand and cruisers in an explicit sense, but some of them have different hits, speed, turns, shields, etc. like how battleships have those differences but don't have the different momentum/movement forward per turn rules. Its not a clean division.
>>98850031Is that why the RT game had attack craft in the same slot as torpedoes?
>>98850084Probably, I never played the RT game
The greatest evil in the 41st millenium is scheduling conflicts. It's been like 3 weeks
>>98849727>>98849863He's not entirely wrong about the escort vs. line ship thing. Both cruisers and battleships use the same ruleset in BFG, while escorts have a somewhat different set of rules, where they operate in squadrons and die to a single point of damage.On the other hand, the FFG system allows for escort sized ships to operate independently, and tracks damage states rather than just counting them as destroyed from a single hit getting past the shields/armor.
>>98850183>Both cruisers and battleships use the same ruleset in BFG,Again, false. There are specific rules for how far battleships can move before they can turn that are distinct from cruisers and why they are a different category. There are other things that cross over between categories.
Who has the largest army? Space Marines (limited by chapter size and time it takes to make them)Sisters of Battle (Single gender, comes from religious background)Adeptus Mechanicus (Highly mechanized)And who is most likely to be working on the same battle field as the Imperial Guard?
>>98848333>the land raider maybe, was just a repurposed agricultural tractorI think there was a Journal article that made a cheeky allusion to something like that, probably as a reference to that one NZ "tank" that was an armour plated tractor.Also Rogue Trader (1987) says STCs made robust designs for frontier worlds and "Fighting vehicles often look like tractors and prime movers because that's exactly what they were copied from!" But that's more likely an implicit license to use construction toys in your games than anything about official models.
>>98848256>Did they not bother reading any of the books?We don't read faggy nucanon and black library fanfiction here.
>>98850711>nucanon and black library fanfiction>Laserburn
>>98850718anon, nucanon has lost all meaning and has just become "thing I don't like", don't engage with it
>>98850612The nids
>>98850751TECHNICALLY there is only 1 mind, many bodies. I wish each hive group had its own hive mind though.
Wow, the new rpg lines feel so meagre, I was hoping to look through splatbooks but there's next to nothing that isn't a gazeteer or an adventure book, at least from what I'm seeing of W&G.Anyone recommend anything? Wanted to see if there was any lore on Primaris, but generalized fluff is welcome
>>98850769There's nothing to recommend because things can't show up in the RPGs without first having a model due to GW's corporate rules.
Oh god, really?! That's garbage
>>98850806>>98850834The Chapterhouse debacle a decade ago killed the creative aspect of things and created the rise of the themefag / lorefag.
>>98850867What was the chapterhouse debacle
>>988506121) Guard (everyones a conscript) Admech (if you dont qualify for anything good youre at least servitor compatible & put on ice)2) Admech, theyre already there in some regard because the Guardsmen cant service their own shit without them
>>98850867I dont mind Codex lorefags or old lore lore fags, but I draw the line at Black Library. Nothing in the Black Library books should ever be considered
>>98851063How do you separate Lore from Black Library stories?
>>98851118>In the codex or core/expansion rule bookLore >not in one of thew aboveGay fanfiction
>>98851118I literally spelled it out. Codex & old lore is okay & pretty much anything printed by Black Library sucks
>>98850867>themefag / lorefag.que?
>>98851527>LorefagAnyone in the thread who complains that a game doesn't fit their narrow and specific definition of "lore", while arguing that certain lore isn't valid because it comes from a source they don't like. For example, >>98851214>Themefagthe guy in the thread who keeps screaming something isn't "real 40k" (always look for those exact words) because it doesn't fit the arbitrary themes of 40k, specifically between the release of 3rd edition in 1998 and the release of the first tau codex in 2001. >>98826667 is probably him.
>>98842360The Warp being a mind virus doesn't get enough development. Every other time I have seen people say that it is a thing it comes across as in universe propaganda and not even Chaos Wank.Am I being unreasonable in regards to this lore or is this something that came up before?
>>98851527The usual forum shit flinging in regards to what "settings" you use at your table because the wider lore has more holes in it than a pasta drainer.Personally I think the main xenos faction and chaos are trash to the point you could cut them most of them out and be better off for it, at least that way the IoM gets to be the worse regime imaginable rather than "surprisingly tolerant all things considered".
>>98851747The warp is basically the galactic collective unconscious soup & everyone who has a soul contributes to the soup. Eventually that soup has a reverberation effect & influences everyone who has a soul. One of the reasons everyone is so regressive & ready to go to war is because the warp has been reflecting those traits back at people. Things people believe get reinforced slowly. One of the reasons the Emperor is wracked in torment & stuck on the throne is because every single human in the galaxy has been told over & over that he is. All that collective unconscious pins him in place. Its one of the reasons he didnt want to be seen as a god. All that belief soup can make you powerful, but it also limits your reality & shapes you
The Templars real name was Pauperes commilitones Christi Templique Salomonici (The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon)Would you cringe if I walked up to you and said that the name of my custom chapter was "The Poor Fellow-Astartes of the Emperor and of the Golden Throne"
>>98852319Yes, but mostly because it deviates from the normal naming convention of chapters, not because of the historical reference.
>>98852319Too long and doesn't fit the normal names yeah. Something like Soldiers of the Golden Throne would fit if they were like a Terra based defensive chapter and shit.
>>98852319Yes, because it should be God-Emperor, not simply Emperor
>>98852334>Too longWhat's the limit?>>98852335Right, I should do that
>>98852325I would have them mostly go by the name "The Knights Thronus" like the Knights Templar did, but still, their official name would be the longer one.
>>98848249N. That's a good conversion system but it's mostly about calculating ship components and hulls space. I just wondered if there was a guide to convert the weapon stats and speed of ships from RT into BFG more exactly than just guesstimating Idk why I appear to have caused an argument about BFG, it's not that deep lads I just want fleet combat with the streamlined BFG rules for a narrative campaign that mixes in a RPG elements and a bunch of stuff from BC and RT
>>98852319"Poor" would be a very strange word for the Imperium to use of marines. Humility is not considered a virtue. "Fellow-Astartes" just seems strange. And as mentioned it's very long; most are two words, with some X of Y's. I can't think of any longer offhand.
>>98851937The warp consensus bullshit is fine, it being a case by case thing is also fine. It's the way that you can that piece of lore is mainly an excuse for IoM behavior.I'm not sure where I'm going with this besides "this annoys me"
>>98853702Mmmm canned soup...The IoM were propaganda'd into being belligerent assholes by the Emperor too. Theres no one influence that controls people. The warp's influence isnt that strong, but it is everywhere. But whenever you wonder why no one anywhere, not the Eldar, not the IoM, etc ever try to make anything new, or do anything but destroy itself as it lumbers towards their own failed goals. know that its because Nurgle is the second most influential Chaos God. If you want to know why everyone fights & never gives peace a chance its because Khorne doesnt want that to happen & has been feeding on everyone's war. So if anyone does feel like making peace with another Khorne is gonna try to influence people into them making pieces of another instead.
>>98853853The warp is made out of emotions & ideas made manifest, but its also a sort of genius loci of spirits born of those emotions & thoughts too. Like, there are multiple variations of murder & rage and Khorne was once a small little guy bubbling up along with other murder & rage spirits, but he is the one that prevailed & devoured his kin, galvanizing ALL murder & rage into himself. This changes him as all those variations change the underlying spirit possibly slowly pulling him away from his original self too. If you could slowly painfully, get everyone in the galaxy into fighting wars as rageless practical strategies & not red hot matters of slaughter, Khorne would slowly be changed from his original aspect into something different, or a new spirit would slowly eat away at his purview & "body" until a new god reigned & khorne was left as a raging little bloodthirsty daemon. The power of belief & how it shapes the Immaterium & how realspace is in turn influenced by the warp is subtle but strong, sort of like gravity or inertia, its why the Emperor made a great big plan to kill everything & anytbing in the galaxy that wasnt a human devoted loyal to him, but also why he never wanted to claim to be a god & use it to his advantage.
>>98852337>What's the limit?Right before it starts to sound retarded. >The Poor Fellow-Astartes of the Emperor and of the Golden Throne"Doesn't work, they're not early templars, they've been doing this for 10k years. They're not poor, they don't know how to be humble anymore if they ever did. >The Glorious Astartes of the God-Emperor on the Golden Throne is not bad as a formal high gothic title rather than a working vulgate title like >Black Templars could even lean into the overly ornate titles and keep going because nothing in it other than the God part makes them chapter specific. >The Glorious Crusading Astartes of the God-Emperor on the Golden Throne and have a gaggle of servitors, priests and whatnot adding in various additional embellishments simultaneously as they read the litanies trailing from battle honours Ad nauseam.
>>98853858>they're not early templars, they've been doing this for 10k yearsActually they’re a primaris founded chapter highly influenced by a Living Saint they fought with during their time as Unnumbered Sons.
>>98853858Another issue you have to contend with is that>The Glorious Crusading Astartes of the God-Emperor on the Golden Throneisn't very specific or descriptive. Like, that's all of the space marines. It describes every one of them, so why do THOSE guys get to wear the title?
>>98852415>Idk why I appear to have caused an argument about BFGAnons were wrong about game rules. Not your fault or a big deal, people are wrong a lot its just part of life. For what its worth, the rules for BFG aren't complex. You don't really need to streamline them and it has a campaign built in for ship customization. There's also additional rules for making RT fleets in bfg, might not have the amount of customization RTrpg has but haven't looked at the rpg to compare. Ships in BFG engagements can die quite easily so might not be well suited to player character rpg longevity unless you cheat in their favour when they plan poorly or the dice don't work out but there's a decent variety of scenarios you can use to make a narrative campaign.
>>98853912>>98853915Oh my bad, thought you were going for specifically Black Templars.They don't even know any better, give them an unweidly huge name. The >crusading part was BT specific, they've been on permanent crusade and were doing that first so it fit there. Most chapters are not on permanent crusade, it was not a metaphor. Need more details to make it more specific and descriptive.
>>98853987amn't he
>>98854005Still need more details to make it more specific and descriptive.
>>98853853I may be not getting my point across very well so let me phrase it another way.Memetic Hazards in 40k as poorly written for the most part and that ties to other problems I have with the IoM not delivering on the "Worse Regime Imaginable" part of their premise.The warp soup analogies and explanations are neat but they lack some metaphorical salt to emphasize some of the more exotic vectors of corruption and influence.
>>98854051>they lack some metaphorical salt to emphasize some of the more exotic vectors of corruption and influence.NTAYRT and not sure what this means entirely. Warp entities aren't just memetic hazards like pontypool or the like. They're also atemporal and galaxy spanning emergent forces so can influence from a variety of vectors simultaneously or in layers rather than relying on reading a book and going insane. That happens too, its easier to write than getting into how the engineer for the book binding factorum saw a strange pattern of acid rain on the tram that inspired them to make an alteration to the margins that lined up with a bit of scrap code left over from 4 millennia ago when the datacore for the factory was in warp transit due to a refugee crisis on a forge world due to etcetcetcetc. and that scrapcode vulnerability just as planned leads to part of why the Necroteuch is so effective. Part of it is memetic but part of it is their ability to influence many many things over time in subtle ways.
>>98854369>ability to influence many many things over time in subtle waysThis is bullshit but Tzeench believes it.
Does the Imperium ever mind, hollow out, then use asteroids as space stations? I want to try turning one into a kind of battle station but don't know where to start.
>>98852337Late response but too long is probably anything more than two nouns/adjectives. Look at some of the first chapters or their successors. Blood Angels, Iron Hands, Imperial Fists. Scythes of the Emperor, Death Spectres, Sons of the Phoenix, Angels Encarmine, etc. most are only one or two words, either two nouns, or an adjective over the noun, with the longer ones being Blank of the Blank for the most part.
>>98854663No they've never once did that in 38k years of being spacefarers using unknowable & incredibly high tech like planet eating nanites across a galaxy worth of humans with different empires & cultures
>>98854663>where to start >take a church>put it on the asteroid >????>gothic! But yes. Its a thing. If you're trying to make a map you could look at castles and fortresses on islands for inspiration and turn it into a grimdark future castle very easily.
>>98854051Anyone who doesnt believe the "worst regime imaginable" line is just a stupid edgelord who wants needlessly edgy shit sucking stories. Its just a line to tell us that life in the Imperium is terrible. Extremely terrible. Yes you can take any crap sack dystopia & make it worse. Literally whatever shitty world you can imagine, now stick a needle in their foot, oh look at that your edgy "worse regime imaginable" wasnt as bad as you imagined.As far as memetic hazards, the Chaos Gods themselves are memetic hazards. Just knowing about them reinforces their identity & their power. Thats why few people in the Imperium even know about the Chaos gods. The Inquisition tries incredibly hard to delete any trace of them as just knowing about Chaos corrupts you.
>>98847352>>98847831>And what do you DO in deathwatch?To wit...>Debrief and discuss the state of the sector with the Watch Commander>Investigate and speak with sub-factions of the Inquisition which have taken an interest in your last deployment which encountered new, metallic, skeletal xenos capable of reanimation>Study and divine the purpose of archaeotech revealed by the Omega Vault>Convince a brother to assume leadership of an upcoming crusade spearheaded by the Deathwatch>Coordinate a war council and resolve disputes between separate allied forces>Speak with the chaplaincy of visions which have troubled you—argue with the chaplain when his version of 'faith' differs from your own>Attend the ceremony for your brother's internment in a dreadnought>Forge a new piece of armor as a parting gift for your brother before he returns to his chapter>Attend a feast held in preparation for a new crusade>Consult with the Emperor's tarot to divine the future>Parlay with non-Imperial-aligned humans on a world which has been separated from the rest of the galaxy for millennia>Investigate why a Watch Station has gone dark, and why previous attempts to recapture it have failed>Resuscitate a battle-brother from sus-an hibernation, and convince him that we are not just more phantasms of the psychic-xenos which had subdued him>Settle duels for questions of honor which arose on campaignand of course>shoot and kill anything that looks at us funnySpace marines may be autistic retards, but roleplaying as autists comes naturally to us, you see.
so from a quick glimpse of the christmas boxesCSM and necron boxes will probably get scalpedchaos knight box looks pretty solidspace marine box seems fineI don't know shit about BA or SW to know whether those boxes are goodorks box seems shit
>>98855160hello, welcome to the RPG thread/40kg/ is down the hall
>>98825524>but we have Catachans at home
>>98854816>Anyone who doesnt believe the "worst regime imaginable" line is just a stupid edgelord who wants needlessly edgy shit sucking stories.Dark Eldar, I don't even like the fuckers but they make the IoM look cuddly in comparison.
During the War in Heaven, did Korks and Proto-Eldar get along or were they kept apart from each other when not fighting?
What goes on here?
>>98856197That's the homeworld of Bophadeus
I remember seeing ork pcs available in one of the rogue trader books, were there any other playable xenos, specifically eldar?
>>98856450Kroot, Tau, and Dark Eldar specifically. If you wanted to play a Craftworlder or a Corsair you're fucked outta luck.
>>98856450Just Orks and Kroots have official rules. But it's easy af to find homebrew rules for other races online.
>>98856485>If you wanted to play a Craftworlder or a Corsair you're fucked outta luck.Well, it kinda makes sense. Wouldn't a normie Eldar avoid travelling on a human ship in the Warp on account of the peril to their soul?
>>98856490Isn't the "Soul Reaver" expansion book an official source for Dark Eldar characters? If that's a fan work, it's slick as fuck.
>>98856485Not even corsairs? How odd
>>98856502Whoops, forgot about that one. You're right.
Besides occasionally recruiting, how much of a presence do imperial fists have on Necromunda?
>>98854876>Attend a feast held in preparation for a new crusadeI'm wondering what sort of space marine only cuisine chapter serfs come up with for their masters given how they can easily eat what would poison or kill normal men.
We were hosting an inquisitor on our ship. Though we are within our rights to use alien mercenaries in a limited capacity, our Tau understood the important of making himself seem as meek, nonthreatening, and expendable as possible. To do this, he pretended to be genuinely retarded when the inquisitor spoke to him. He did not inform us of this plan beforehand. It seems to have worked though.Also the 6'4 inquisitor kept mogging my teenage 5'6 rogue trader and patting him on the back
>>98856635I can't speak to food, but Space Wolves serfs are masters at brewing an alcoholic drink for their Astartes masters that is so potent it can actually get them drunk, while being pure poison to a mortal man.
>>98856808I'm surprised you risked the Tau being seen by the Inquisitor at all. I'm sure there are countless bays in the ship you could've hidden him.
>>98856611Very hands off, except when Imperial authority is threaten, like during the the Aranthian Succession. Even then, they just gave a general "You guys have 100 days to figure this shit out or we're stepping in" threat, which got everyone back in line. They haven't actually conducted military action on Necromunda as far as I'm aware.
>>98856813Isn't that due to that herb that shuts down the kidney?
>>98856808>he pretended to be genuinely retarded when the inquisitor spoke to him.That sounds hilarious. Got any quotes or conversation snippets to share?
>>98856854Yup, Fenrisian Ale, shuts down the Oolitic Kidney, allowing the Marine to actually get drunk. However, they have to keep drinking it to stay drunk because as soon as they stop, the kidney quickly starts working again.
>>98856869Now I want to know what would happen if you poured it on a plague marine.
>>98856197Pleasure World in the Calixis Sector, probably famous for its brothels given the name. Given that it's the Calixis sector, probably has a underground Cult of Hedonism that needs to be uncovered by a group of plucky, underdog acolytes
>>98856808That last part reads like a "guys im straight... but big man made my twink ass be gay" type greentext
Whats a good weapon to dual weild with a Chordclaw? Im debating just using two, but didnt know if theres anything else that could be cool. I kind of wish I could combine them with Electrostatic Gauntlets so I could tear i to someone and then add Motive Force charges to the damage, but i dont rules that might allow that
>>98857015You wouldn't want to pair it with a pistol or ranged weapon for balance?
>>98857066Iwas thinking just for melee. My chordclaw is already a combo-weapon with a pistol in it, I know it's a lot of weight, but I have an integrated chordclaw/gun combi-weapon & i hold another rifle on a sling. I also have a web pistol in a holster, that way I can mix up my ranged options. But, since I can also dualwield melee weapons, I want something to pair with my claw in melee. Different methods of attack appeal to me, if that counts for anything. I like being able to have options for most encounters. Long range, short range, lethal, non lethal, etc. So when I do melee it's great that I can ignore armor, but my other hand is just doing nothing right now.
>>98857015You've lost a hand already, might as well get a ranged weapon invovled for the usual flexible technique
>>98857102shock maul then, 2 settings, two options.
>>98857015Some kind of flail themed as a sacred incense burner for mechanicus rites.
>>98856505Official rules for Rogue Trader exist for kroot, dark eldar, tau (fire warrior) and orks.Homebrew rules for Rogue Trader exist for corsairs, necrons, lizardmen, harlequins, and tau (all castes except ethereal), as well as reworks for dark eldar and kroot.
>>98856821We dont really have anything to hide at the moment, and I wanted to show that, and also to show that the aliens were living in a shitty repurposed cargo bay and not interacting much with the crew. He had heard that we had a few alien mercs and while he obviously found it very distasteful, I felt that we should be open with him, gain his trust, he could be a powerful ally. He was somewhat friendly overall, he seemed TOO satisfied. Hes probably planning something>>98856861Nothing too quotable just speaking in super broken english in an exaggerated asian accent and failing to understand simple concepts
How much should the members of each faction know about other factions?Should a Space Marine lieutenant know that a spirit stone holds the soul of Eldar? Should an Eldar aspect warrior know that most Space Marines don't believe in the divinity of the Emperor?
A Tithe Paid in Blood and Rot part IIIAfter arriving in Cindergate Port, the acolytes disembarked from the sprites shuttle just in time for Emilia the psyker to be psychically attacked, going into a seizing fit as the sticky sweet scent of decay filled the air. A menial worker had also gone still, face planting like a board against the rockcrete floor. Leveraging their ecclisiarchy authority, Durrana manages to get an hour with the body for assessment, finding a prayer hymnal with “Thank you, Teacher” written on the back and a strange scarring mass on the man’s foot, plus signs of cranial hemorrhagic shock, blood trickling from nose and ears while ash black tears streaked down his face. Psychic investigation with Psiniscence revealed a warmth, “like a fading heat lamp” from his body as well as other “little lights” in the spaceport. Immediately investigating one of them at the main cargo train dock because Emilia has Bad Vibes intuition that they must be doing something with the trains into the hive proper, they find a tired administration clerk with no indication of heresy or the like, only confusion as to why someone would leverage a noble’s name to drag her aside. With a quick bit of questioning producing nothing, they move on to investigating the shipping company from ledgers taken from their last uncovering of cult activity, the Voss-Karlin headquarters building, meeting the head of the guild, Hereditary Factor Corliss Voss-Karlin. Asking for information about the shipments from Heiron’s ledgers and pretending to be auditing him. This leads them to investigating and being unable to locate the ecclesiastical supply shipments but they do get their hands on one of the seed-stock shipments, discovering that the seeds themselves carried spores and faint traces of the same sickly sweet scent as before, though Venria and Durrana were safe with their gas masks and the only ones actually opening the sealed casks.
>>98858975Moving to question one of the counting house workers seems to prove nothing but after another round of questioning of the Hereditary Factor, they find out the man they questioned was in fact in charge of all the -B shipments that were under question. They barge in on him trying to burn dataslates involved in his cover-up of smuggled supplies and being bribed to do it by, you guessed it, the same duke they had killed a month ago. >Hearing the realization in their voices as they discovered this entire lead was a dead end because they already got the guy was particularly glorious and felt properly Tzeenchian.Bribing the Hereditary Factor with the deal of not revealing the nature of what happened and getting his company investigated for potentially collaborating in heretical activity knowing or not, the acolytes convince him to pay for their passage to the “in-between” station from their current planet and where the tainted grain was coming from known as Ashwell Drift to investigate the specific matters relating to the tainted shipments and smuggling. A message sent to one of their inquisition contacts has them instructed to relay another message to a tithe-meister in the administratum overseeing the hive’s shipping network in order to have the man look into finding where the tainted grain stock was distributed and sent to, to find how much it had already done while they book passage on a merchant vessel Drusus' Smile to the void station.
>>98858983Thirteen days of warp transit go relatively uneventful despite a PTSD attack during warp translation on Hastus’ part flashing back to the Tranch wars and seeing the others as horrific mutants and nearly injuring Venria with his pistol, and Emilia attracting Warp-Ghosts that earn her suspicion from serfs that almost bubbles up into a lynching, they arrive at the Drift safely and meet the station Dockmistress Illyana Corevane, a woman dressed in an eclectic mix of a noble's uniform plus shipman's leathers, and bearing tattoos that Morven identifies as connected to a knight house from his homeworld, the self named “queen of the station” welcomes them in the name of removing threats to her profitable shipping business, and so sends them to receive identification and passes to move abound storage and record stores from her “Head of security”, Hacklo, an Ogryn with a Bone’ead implant, meat cleaver in place of a hand stump, and covered in tattoos, including one that marks him as formerly part of a unit of Catachan Jungle Fighters. The Ogryn gives them identification cognomens, and after a bit of haggling and a near threat of “Choppin ya up an’ eatin’ ya” after Emilia attempts to bribe him with food (earning the response of “you fink I’m as stupid as I look?” from the Ogryn) they get the records they are looking for from him, where the session ends shortly after. >Apologies for the big blocks of text and messy nature, summarizing two sessions and some gaps between from memory was a bit more difficult than expected. But tonight getting to continue it and see just how they plan to try and track down possible heretics in a confined void-station. Hopefully story time is enjoyed by those reading.
>>98858959Hearsay and telephone mixed with contempt. One of the key things to remember is all the different races in 40k have massive amounts of contempt for each other, except maybe Tyranids who don't feel much like that, although GSC do so even then. >Lt. Space Marine knows spirit stones are important to the foul xenos because of their corrupt witch magic and superstitions of a fallen race. Learning any more than that would be at best, an ill advised waste of their 15 minutes of free time a day unless they're Death Watch and doing mission or campaign specific research. >Aspect Warrior Eldar knows different Mon'keigh have different primitive faiths built around their corpse god, all of them doomed in their own sad way. Most eldar would not care about the crass details unless studying humans was their thing.
>>98858959I believe only specialized chapters like the Grey Knights or Deathwatch specifically know things like that. Standard marines will likely know that spirit stones are important to the disgusting xenos but not that they contain their souls outright. We know the Grey Knights are aware because they have returned stones to the Eldar before since they care more about killing chaos than fighting the elves. I believe there is also a Deathwatch relic that is a storm shield studded with the stones that they don't know specifics except that the eldar focus on trying to retrieve them over anything else?
What do Sisters of Battle think of female Guardsmen, and vice versa? Is there any judgement or looking-down-upon-ness or mutual gendered respect?
Would you consider a laspistol to be a 'stealthy' weapon?
>>98860246I imagine Sisters look down on most people who they see as not sufficiently faithful, regardless of gender or status. Remember that they see space marines as disgusting if tolerated mutants depending on the order.>>98860291If you modify it to be compact and easily hidden sure, less so once you start firing unless you use the silencer/invisible laser mods mentioned in Gaunt's Ghosts
>>98860291Laser weapons "should" be a stealth weapon because the beam should be invisible and relatively soundless. But they are rarely portrayed that way. Modify the fuck out of it if you can. A digi-weapon is better still
>>98857168>>98858461I don't like these, but the censor does sound fun on some other character
>>98860310>Remember that they see space marines as disgusting if tolerated mutants depending on the order.Where is this being pulled from? I find it hard to believe that the Emperor’s fan girls would think such a thing of the Emperor’s angels
>>98853954>For what its worth, the rules for BFG aren't complex. You don't really need to streamline themI guess I worded this badly. I meant I want to use BFG because the rules are streamlined and more amicable to fleet combat.Also I was going to have the players to be aboard their flagships which would be at least a cruiser so they shouldn't just instantly explode but I'd also let them transfer their flag to new ships if the flagship is crippled ala Mueller at Vermilion. There's also the disengage rules and emergency warp jump if things go seriously sideways inside the first mission.>>98860612NTA but it originates from the 2nd edition SoB codex which has a section about the ecclesiarchy not seeing eye to eye with marines. Or before that if you count Sister Sin merking that Rainbow Warrior.
>>98860894>2nd edition SoB codex Feels like that would fall under oldlore then, like how old lore had only a single SoB in the history of the galaxy who fell to Chaos. But I don’t know, it also feels grimdark enough to have an order of sisters who refuse the best battlefield help they could get because of their fanaticism.
Is there an armor for Space Marines that is specialized for aquatic combat? I know their armor can work in space and jump packs let them fly but is there a variant that works best for naval combat?
>>98861096I think the Carcharodons make a passing mention to modifications they make for underwater operations, but I don’t think they have specific suits for that.
I think I might include an Admech ritual password around the number 4 as a joke to the internet shitting itself because of Indians today
>>988615154 is already the asian number of death
>>98861515There were more numbers than that, but 4 is just the funniest since it is a single digit.
How come the Mutagens & Malignancy tables in Imperium Maladictum have some "possitive" ones, but the Tech Corruption tables dont have anything "Possitive"?
>>98862018Which table are you looking at for tech corruption?
How does interplanetary currency work in the Imperium? I know each planet will have their own currency, but is there a imperial currency for interplanetary trade? Will a chartist captain in the Segmentum Obscurus take the same form of payment for passage as a chartist captain the Segmentum Tempestus?
>>98862374Admech players guide.
>>98862583Usually in various segmentums there ends up being an overall currency. I know people dislike IM but they did a good thing with the Solars being used as a near universal currency for the region and not quite in a generic sense but a proper term.
Is there anything like a 40k random encounter table?I was planning to just adapt the one out of cyberpunk 2020 for my dark heresy needs but might as well ask if there was a bespoke 40k one
>>98863304Was this not done before in DH1e? I'm pretty sure that's exactly what Thrones were, complete with blurb about the Imperium being too big for a single unified currency.
>>98860894It'll probably work out but if I was a player and there were 4 of us with only 1 ship I wouldn't find it very interesting so figuring out how to get them escort squadrons to divvy up and otherwise seems prudent.
>>98863374I would need to double check but I thought the one gelt was in part an abstraction of wealth that varied from planet to planet but was all called thrones in the same way that there are multiple types of dollar
>>98862583>How does interplanetary currency work in the Imperium?Each region has banking institution and they overlap often enough to convert one coin to another. If there isn't one the most prominent group gets to make one and negotiate with their neighbors.>Will a chartist captain in the Segmentum Obscurus take the same form of payment for passage as a chartist captain the Segmentum Tempestus?They will take whatever they think they can use later on like some age of sail bullshit where some regions only accepted Spanish coin while others only accepted English currency, most places will have a middle man to change one coin to another or things devolve into bartering.>I'm willing to give you half a ton of silver in exchange for 50 thousand new souls for my vessel>5 hundred last pistols for your daughter, giving me a claim on your the lands you conquer after you pass.
>>98863368>Is there anything like a 40k random encounter table?I think there was something for that in only war and the 80s rogue trader but I don't remember the details. Odds are you can use the D&D ones with minimal changes, specially if you use older versions of them.
>>98862583Throne Gelt
>>98862583No. The Emperor's coin is souls. Only the worthless peons care about cash, Rogue Traders, Inquisitors, the Nobility, & anyone else important trades in favors & assets. Minted coins dont have any value outside of their novelty or their material value like if theyre made of gold or platinum. Only certain people are even allowed off of their planet of birth, so only vastly wealthy people are traveling
>>98863368Back section of Rogue Trader has a bunch of tables and a bestiary for the GM. The random encounter is more like terrain placement or scenario generation though. Slaves to Darkness and The Lost & The Damned books from the same era have chaotic warband generation tables which are very neat but buckle up they're fairly involved and of their era.
>>98864278>RT random encounter stuffWhich book is that in, the GM's guide?
>>98864528Oh, no, he means the original Rogue Trader, the 1980’s first edition to 40k
>>98864847Archaeology it is.
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