Grr.

>>98789940
>Crane and Scorpion
While I wasn't there, I got the DISTINCT impression just from how storylines played out that Crane-as-written and Crane-as-played were heavily at odds. Shame they didn't lean harder into Crane getting its shit together and properly militarising instead of just throwing out the civil war and sweeping it under the rug, theoretically you could say some pretty interesting things about the realities of power through the Daidoji but they're just kind of...there. Distracting from the fact that the writers don't seem to know what to do with the Crane during times of conflict other than humiliate them. The founding Kakita must be unspeakably disappointed they forgot how to use duelling as anything other than a social bullying technique.

And yet, they still have it better with the Scorpion. Someone REALLY enjoyed writing the tragic ninja angle with them. If the Daidoji are proof that the Scorpion were a pointless exercise even before Bayushi did it with an eldritch horror, and Hantei's biggest mistake while founding the empire was setting the clan up to fail, then the Tortoise are everything the Scorpion SHOUD have been. And that's just depressing, but it's also the truth. A crass, shitty little minor clan that makes its name off cavorting with gaijin and answers exclusively to the Emperor himself is BY DEFINITION better at covert ops than a Great Clan because it's more easily overlooked. Well, that and probably even primordial darkness entities feel like they're slumming it just hanging out with the Tortoise.

...maybe it's kind of a mercy that the Monkey quickly became irrelevant, at least the Mantis didn't snap them up too.

>run crying to the Emperor
That plus marrying the Emperor. Clearly the designated Imperial wife is picked from the girl who is best at crying on men's shoulders.

>>98791859
Lets be honest, letting the meta plot be determined by game results was a terrible decision. Yes it produced some cool things. Yes it was probably incredibly hype if you were there. But holy shit did it make a mess of things sometimes. Also, hot take, they probably should have ended things as originally promised before things escalated like it was a shonen manga.

Okay, so I have started to go through the jump and I have a few questions.

First. Skills of Rokugan. I sort of get where you are coming from here. There are various things a samurai should be competent in and this lets you pick up relevant skills. It's just odd to me that you give the example of Kenjutsu, and then we turn around and a little further down have the section where you have Bushi on offer. Putting a few hundred into Bushi to be competent in the relevant school for your family would logically involve having skill with Kenjutsu in most cases. So why would I ever put points into Kenjutsu in Skills of Rokugan? Speaking of lets say I was trying to make a Matsu Berserker. Why would I buy ranks in the MB Bushi school or Skills for Bukijutsu if I can just take Matsu's Fury? It explicitly lets me master fighting techniques. So if I am making a Matsu Berserker do I just take Matsu's Fury? Do I still buy Bushi? If I buy Bushi do I still need SoR for Kenjutsu? I'm not sure if I am just not getting something or if there are a lot of overlaps between different purchase options. Related note Grinning Crane Takes Flight = prodigy at everything. Why buy any general perks for skills and schools? I know that if I was building as intended I should take some skills, and a school, and some clan perks, but it feels like some invalidate or at the least devalue others.

1/2

>>98793155
Second. Did we really need the 1e Kakita Artisan perk? I mean being fair you're giving all the clans their wank for their capstone perks, but damn. 1e Kakita Artisans...holy shit.

Third, some families kinda just seem to have gotten the shaft. I don't see anything for Hiruma, Shiba, Yogo, or Ikoma for example. It kinda feels like all the clans got sanded down to their most obvious or stereotypical elements and some of the other facets of their identity got left out. That or some things just aren't as interesting to make perks for. Which I can understand. It just doesn't feel like everything is as represented as I would prefer.

Fourth. I understand that skreeds are kind of normal for you but I won't lie, as entertaining as I find them I do wonder if they are entirely necessary. The entire Mirumoto Hitomi perk is uh, and experience. I understand why it is there. I don't even disagree with it really. It's just kind of takes me out of it a bit.

2/2

More thoughts to come as I keep reading and try making some builds. I think I will start with a build for each of the clans.

You get a chain, but you have to post your first build and then go to sleep.

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>>98794489

WE ARE DAIGOTSU.
WE CARRY THE FLAME.

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>>98796338 >>98796811 >>98796881 >>98801379 >>98879045

Cosmic Warehouse
>Utilities:
Electricity, Plumbing, Heat/A.C., Local_Net, Force_Wall
>Structures:
N/A
>Miscellaneous:
Portal, Link, Food_Supply

NuBee’s Bodymod Supplement
>Foundation:
Cleansed, Adjustment, Sex (Female)
>Statistics (Own)
Strength: 2, Stamina: 2, Agility: 2, Flexibility: 2, Reflexes: 5, Intelligence: 5, Charisma: 5
>Body Modifications:
Coloration, Grooming
>Mental Modifications:
Charm, Natural_Disposition (Thoughtful), Alignment (Male), Strength, Memory
>Character Perks:
Restraint, Body_Maintenance (Homeostasis)

Monster Musume
>Time Period, Starting Location, Origin (Faction):
N/A, 24-Hour_Supermarket, Host (Drop-In) (N/A)
>Race, Gender, Age (Apparent Age):
Liminal (100CP) (Devil (Greater)), Female, 19 (N/A)
>Power List:
Human_Ears, Blood_Moon /
Professor_Newhire, Terminal_Power, Achilles_Heal
>Starting Item List:
N/A
>Item List:
Remodeled_House, Independent_Activity_Pass (Forged_Certificate) /
Budget_Job, Forged_Certificate
>Companion List:
Homestay_Option (TBD)
>Scenario/Drawback List:
Fantastic_Life
>Future:
Polt_Approved

How goes Immortal Handbooks, Shard?

You said it wouldn't be as hard as Lo5R, so is it more the work of a week? Or less?

>>98794277
I start on it tomorrow officially, but I wrote up the intro, basic companion and ending options today. I THOUGHT I'd end my jumpathon on the hardest one yet, but a combination of the material being easier to parse and L5R being way, way, way harder than I expected means I'm optimistic I'll be done by the middle of next week at the latest.

Really the hardest part is probably going to be deciding how autistically I should explain D&D magic in the notes. For whatever reason most D&D jumps do not get into the nitty-gritty of how magic works, how much gold a given spell costs etc so I'm edging towards following tradition for my own sake.

>>98794008
Daigotsu stans look like this and sound like this. Out of universe too, probably.

>>98793155
It was...certainly an /experience/, slowly learning the game was a LOT different from the gritty Kurosawa-like experience I was sold on it as way back in the day.

As for your questions, before I address them individually: In general, things are the way they are because I tried to strike a balance between the system, lore and assumptions of L5R, and the format of Jumpchain. The result has been controversial to some, among other things it means the jump is long and rambly, despite my best efforts to compress 1000+ pages' worth of 4e Imperial Histories, Great Clans, corebook and element book into a non-professionally published PDF. But it's what I ended up with.

>Skills of Rokugan
So to be clear, it's assumed if you go Bushi you have the appropriate levels of kenjutsu/iaijutsu/whatever is appropriate for that level of mastery. It is a little awkward but I mainly put Kenjutsu in there to affirm the idea it CAN be additive if you're willing to invest so much in "mundane" sword skills instead of sekrit family techniques. You're right, if you wanted to be a Matsu Berserker you just buy the Matsu school in Bushi (or be a strong independent Lion man with a coincidentally similar tradition).

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>>98794530

>>98794489
WE'LL FIGHT FOR THE SPIDER.
WE'LL HONOR HIS NAME.

>>98793155
You take Matsu's Fury if you want to be a Super Matsu, and you do not need SoR.

It is a little awkward and in hindsight I should've used the non-fighty examples, but SoR really exists as a stopgap in case someone wants to be good at Lore: Theology, or Etiquette, or Calligraphy. The latter are among Daigotsu's weakest skills, which is to say he is merely a consummate professional at them rather than a living legend.

>Grinning Crane Takes Flight
Because the perk alone scales you to Doji Satsume, and you can buy normal skills to go even further beyond.

>1e Kakita Artisan perk
Well see.
4e acknowledged it as FULLY canon, whereas it tried to hem-haw about the Infinity Stone that Naseru found.
And let's face it. That incident was the single greatest military AND artistic accomplishment carried out principally by a SINGLE crane since the day of Kakita himself duelling and wooing for the hand of Lady Doji.

So yeah. Unfortunately yeah, I have to dig deep into the lore (and 4e is right there with me in the muck) to give the Crane things to do other than duel and cry to the emperor.

>some families
Yeah I'm not wholly comfortable with how it turned out, but it's like this: I feel if I did triple perklines for all the clans to aura farm for everyone, differing clan capabilities and past performance would mean eventually I would have to start padding out certain families with meta perks like "you are a scorpion whose loyalties won't get screwed by the plot" which I feel would quickly run into other problems. Like jump bloat, which was already a complaint. As such I felt it was necessary to prioritise what the clans lionised (no pun intended, Lion) rather than go out of my way to upsell absolutely everyone. Which unfortunately, means some people got left behind by the Great Narrative Filter.

(Cont'd)

>>98793155
The Hiruma are skirmishers for a clan most known for their heavy armour, witch hunting and siege tactics, which leaves them with the awkward option of "you can reclaim Shadowland-tainted places through sheer yamato damaishi" which I think we can both agree is an unacceptable level of Crab wank. The Shiba family have the even more humiliating role of being the warrior caste for a pacifistic, ascetic, scholastic clan of super wizards. Yes, yes, their polearm technique is very pretty, but their competition is THE CRAB and THE LION. And I think many Jumpers would take "Shiba has chosen you as his current vessel" as a funny drawback rather than a perk. The Yogo are drawback lev-oh wait I did put something for them, Yogo's Wards, in the Scorpion section. Probably out of pity. And to finalise my "I'm turning the strengths of the clans into perks and ignoring weirdo outliers, in accordance with notoriously conservative Rokugan values" approach, the Ikoma are a clan of longwinded storytellers founded by a womanising, hard-drinking braggart. I ACCEPT they are very good at their job, by the Lion's standards of good.

The problem is /the Lion are consistently one of the weaker clans when it comes to politics/, because Emperors have shit taste and do not desire powerful Matsu wives.

BUT uh, yeah. Unfortunately your suspicions are kind of correct, but like I said I just feel like the jump would go on forever if I REALLY TRIED to represent EVERYONE and I don't think anyone is volunteering to make more L5R jumps like there are Warhammer jumps

(Cont'd)

>>98793161
>Fourth. I understand that skreeds are kind of normal for you but I won't lie, as entertaining as I find them I do wonder if they are entirely necessary. The entire Mirumoto Hitomi perk is uh, and experience. I understand why it is there. I don't even disagree with it really. It's just kind of takes me out of it a bit.
This is completely understandable, and to be clear I /try/ to stay relatively professional when not as triggered by things like trying to quantify Hitomi having her destiny rigged for redemption out of universe or Daigotsu Privilege. It's just that. How should I put this.

I tried to mentally visualise like, 4-5 different ways of wording a perk that amounts to "You are very lucky and can fight well enough to cause surprise upsets, like Hitomi". Then I tried to imagine a casual conversation with someone who has never heard of L5R, to see if I could convince them they could even attempt half the shit she did. Starting form age 10.

Just like the Naruto quote is there to emphasise how thoroughly Daigotsu has fucked the themes of the setting, I mostly put Hitomi's summarised biography in there so people understand what's on the table and I'm genuinely worried anything less won't quite get the message across.

Happy buildmaking!

>>98794492
They unironically did. The evil clan of madmen and twisted degenerates really did honor his name.

A husband, a father, his family held near
A home built on Shourido, on faith without fear
The world tried to silence, but his voice remains
In the Spider it echoes, in Jigoku it sustains

>>98794489
So about those Super Liches in Immortal Handbook, what's their deal? What can they do beside travel across Planes?

And are there any OP Illithids?

>>98794536
The Akalich is what happens when even the bone on a lich turns to dust. All that's left is captured immortal spirits and some mystic gems as eyes and teeth, and a spiritual presence of super light-devouring nogoodnik bad vibes. They are assumed to have automatica metamagic capacity, Epic Spell Penetration, Epic Spellcasting, Ignore Material Components, Metamagic Freed-look, they mog Vecna when Vecna doesn't have the backing of the writers to give him an asspull. The example is a mortal named Nimrod who was making the IH version of the Tower of Babel to conquer the gods, blasted almost to nothingness by them yet sustained by his sheer wrath. Oh, and he has spell-like abilities, can give himself the benefits of all magical items kept in 41 feet of him (very specific) and can use the spirits of true immortals trapped in himself to resurrect himself. Because even the phylacteries of akaliches have crumbled away, so they have to use theophagy instead.

>>98794489
>very different from the gritty experience I was sold
The metaplot and card game yeah. Any given table could be gritty and heavily inspired by Kurosawa and Jidaigeki films in general. Most games I played were, especially since things mostly stuck to low level play. But the overall universe and meta plot at the highest levels? Yeah it went full retard. The non stop escalation post fu-leng really ruined things.

I understand the difficulty of striking a balance between the game and jumpchain. It’s why none of my attempts to make an l5r jump got anywhere. Was never happy with it. Kudos to you for doing it, nitpicks aside I am grateful we have a jump for it. I always figured if I was gonna do it I’d have to do a separate jump for each clan in order to represent everything properly, and holy shit that just isn’t feasible.

Anyway builds to come through out the day. Side note, was your build posted on the bunker? I was always very curious what you would do in Rokugan and contemplated it every time I made my abortive attempts at jumpmaking.

>>98794820
Thanks! In an ideal world we'd have as much enthusiasm for L5R as for Warhammer, and people willing to parse the increasingly unhinged metaplot with the nominal intended experience of the game to meet somewhere halfway but...well, from what I can tell the fandom was kind of divisive around the time Jumpchain was taking off to the point where an L5R jump would come under consideration (remember when the idea of a Mortal Kombat jump was divisive because of vaguely similar lore vs gameplay/game event powerlevels? Remember when someone posted one that was deemed too CYOA-like? Pepperidge Farm remembers), and I guess it just petered out even before the west started to crack down on "orientalism".

>Side note, was your build posted on the bunker?
Oh no, I haven't posted builds for any of my new jumps yet. Because the new jumps are laying the path for a new chain through which my old Jumper will escape the succbox

>>98794882
>Spoiler
Looking forward to it then.

One more side note. You put in references to Shouting Matsu and the Horse Sepukku thread but no reference to Ishigaki and co? The greatest l5r greentext of all time? For shame. Commit seppuku immediately.

Alright first build. Feel free to tell me if I goofed somewhere. Let’s kick it off with my third favorite clan Crane.

Daidoji Spymaster build

Origin: Crane
Perks:
Bland 0
Daredevil 0
Wary 0
Crab Hands 0
Strength of Earth 0
Quick 0
Bushi 300
Advanced School (200) 0
Iron Crane 200
Gaijin Pepper 200
Soahuro’s Theatrics 200
Gear:
Gear of War 0
Gaijin Gear (black powder) 0
Gifts of the Road 50
Gifts of Court 50

Pretty simple build. Time to bomb shit and spy for the sake of my “pacifist” overlords. Overall I think it’s a solid set up. Yeah it will never scratch the peaks of the setting but that really isn’t what I was going for here. It’s a good setup for being one of the Daidoji’s best agents for dealing with the more day to day shit. Probably spend the whole jump dueling scorpions in the shadows and thwarting matsu aggression and I feel confident a jump 1 jumper could fulfill those duties with this build.

>>98795019
The schools in question being Daidoji scout for the levels in Bushi and taking Daidoji spymaster as an advanced school of course. Forgot to mention that in the build proper. Probably my only concern with this build is my lack of refinement and talky skills might get me killed if I have to interact with the wrong courtiers. Might be worth looking at some drawbacks to pick up a few ranks of Skills of Rokugan. Going full one dimensional warrior man is always a terrible idea in the rpg I should keep that in mind here even if jumpchain as a format does reward min maxing.

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Bumping so we don't fall off the board.

>>98791537
Np, another question, and sorry if it sounds obvious, but I want to make sure I'm not cheesing anything too much, when you refer in the jump to "class level" are you excluding racial hit dice?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteen_Ghosts
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BRK99U1t7x0s156_B8B02cY4cDOuKda7vmsiENtcvjM/edit?usp=sharing
I've got the document for 13 Ghosts up and will be doing a notetaking watchthrough of the movie between now and strim.
Feel free to toss any ideas or requests my way.

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>>98796418 >>98799319 >>98800808

>Do Chainbutt
>Still here
https://youtu.be/dynMPgp9kRYJGD-bqvENcwyuHc-
>>98794037
>Companion List:
>Homestay_Option (TBD)
Homestay_Option (Evelyn_"Eve"_Grimm_Moore) (Foreigner / Liminal (300CP) (Grimoire), Female, 20 / Human_Ears, Blood_Moon / Winsome_Teaser (Japanese), Warm_Aura / Independent_Activity_Pass (Forged_Certificate) / Unlimited_Coffee_&_Coffee_Ice_Cream, Forged_Certificate)

Myself as a home-owning yankii teen Greater Devil giving people hypnotism as a job, and my doting mail-order British weeb book wife who can teach me Japanese. I rolled a 6 for her Liminal race, lucky me. Since Grimoires can absorb knowledge from books, I'm interested to see how much utility she will provide me in learning magic, or how easily she can learn magic herself. I will be a responsible Host and not feed her exclusively hentai. Might do more builds for this, I don't know.
>>98796202
Racial class levels and Hit Dice do not interact with the Class Level option in any way. Even if you stack Class Level with whichever racial option you take, the prices are handled separately. Challenge Rating 10 and Class Level 10 would each separately cost 450CP even if you took a Class Level that stacks with your Race. Races that have additional Hit Dice traditionally have their Challenge Rating go up because of the adjustment just when referring to whichever Favored Class they have, but that's handled as part of their race. Handle the options separately.

>>98796338
Thank you for the answer, this is very interesting.
Also not to aggravate you, but was rereading deities and demigods, and there it's stated that clerics can get spells from their dedication to a cause without needing the intercession of a god, are you sure it was only added after 3.5?

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>>98796593

>>98796418
3e/3.5 Forgotten Realms is one of the only settings that does it. Even Archivists, Druids, and Ur-Priests still get their spells from a god or gods. There's contradictory information, but this is how it works. It's like how 3.5 Forgotten Realms uses the World Tree cosmology because they were trying to differentiate it from Planescape, but they're functionally the same cosmological models. Even that has contradictory sources.

>>98796562
Fair enough and good to know.
By the same token I should understand that I should ignore the ELH about sinergy boni increasing over 20, as you put it as part of the demigod perk? Also I'm really curious about how fusing with the silver fire, could you tell me where did it happen? Seems awesome enough.

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>>98793443
>1 - EXALTED - DESCENDING HIERARCHY
>COSMIC PRINCIPLE [0]
>Malfeas, The Demon City and King Of The Yozi
The Demon City
>FILTH [100]
Demonic Essence [Free]
Servant Races [Free]
Hellish Spawn [Free]
First Among Equals [0, Discount]
Initiation Of The Creators [-100, Discount]
Forge Of The Creators [-300, Discount]
Swallowing The Scorpion [-600, Discount]
Musical Implements [Free]
Infernal Liquor [Free]
Contribution: Major: The Unconquered Sun [-1000]
Infamous [-900]
Open Spite [-800]
Of All Things [-600]
Her Love Is Worse Than Her Hate [-400]
Wretched [0]

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>>98796593
>I should ignore the ELH about synergy boni increasing over 20
I don't know why you would think that, but no, it works as described. Standard Skills already have bonuses for how many points you have in them, and usually it's you get +2 for having 5 points in a Skill. Skill Synergy just works differently for Gods.
>could you tell me where did it happen?
The Simbul did it by consuming a large amount of magic. It's transitional lore between 3.5 to 4e. Weaveghosts, a similar thing, is much older lore. In Dead Magic zones, one of the ways to get around not being able to cast magic is to consume the power stored in magic items. This is one of those lore things and not something that's addressed by the tabletop. The Simbul had to do this after Mystra died because magic being fractured literally drove The Simbul insane. Elminster and a number of the Seven Sisters went around collecting magic items to feed to her. A number of the Seven Sisters have unique or semi-unique abilities related to magic. It's just that what The Simbul did shouldn't functionally be unique to her. Elminster previously held a significant part of the Weave within himself in one of the books to similar effect, IIRC.

>>98796678
>usually it's you get +2 for having 5 points in a Skill. Skill Synergy just works differently for Gods.
ELH states that the synergy further increases by +2 for every further 20 points you have.
>The Simbul did it by consuming a large amount of magic. It's transitional lore between 3.5 to 4e. Weaveghosts, a similar thing, is much older lore.
Thank you.
Also asking for a suggestion here, but if I'm not that good is there some way I'm forgetting about to cast exalted spells?

>>98796731
>ELH states that the synergy further increases by +2 for every further 20 points you have.
If you're asking if that part of the perk is redundant then, yes. I guess that's where they got it from.
>For instance, the Player's Handbook notes that if you have 5 or more ranks in Tumble, you get a +2 synergy bonus on Balance checks. If you have 25 or more ranks in Tumble, this synergy bonus increases to +4, with 45 or more ranks to +6, and so forth. SKILL DESC

>is there some way I'm forgetting about to cast exalted spells?
I specifically have stayed away from all Alignment-typed spells the entire time I've been into D&D. I know almost nothing about them other than Maw of Chaos is one of my favorites.

>>98794037
>Sex (Female)

>>98794037
>Sex (Female)
Based.

>>98796800
>f you're asking if that part of the perk is redundant then, yes
Good to know.
>I specifically have stayed away from all Alignment-typed spells the entire time I've been into D&D
Fair enough.
I want to create a magic item capable of casting Sanctify the wicked, but I'm not good enough to cast exalted spells.
If I end up being a planetar I might just use the goodness I receive for being an angel.
Else I might have to search someone else to cast it for me.

>>98795019
>>98795040
Yep looks fine to me, and there we go: SoR working as intended.

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>>98796811
There's just too many options to stay male. We have shapeshifting, perks that make you be treated gender neutrally, at least one Main Drive option to just turn everyone into futanari, and I wanna say there's even a few yuri reproduction options. I've done the greater-than-average value male thing, and it ain't fucking worth it. I'm making valid excuses, but the fact is I just want to be my own brand of hedonist. I'd probably have to stay relatively tall though, I don't think I could mentally handle being short. All roads lead to becoming a biological robot tentacle horror, anyways.
>>98796881
The House of D welcomes all. Even if you're male, female, Human, or normal.

>>98791859
Please reduce the minimum age in the L5R jump to at least 13 if not lower, because A) it's canon (typical age for gempukku is 14, but Rokugani practice is to count age from 1, not 0, so a "14 year old" is 13) and B) shota samurai!!!!!

Thank you for your consideration.

>>98798090
Two new questions: I don't remember if you can stack stuff like DMM and the perk metamagic manipulation.
also does the limit on divine spellcasting coming from gods is true for outsiders with innate spellcasting too, or are they deific enough to have it by themselves, considering their worship afaik doesn't feed gods anyway like mortals do?

>>98796338
>Evelyn_"Eve"_Grimm_Moore
Realistically, I'm calling this companion Book because I'm an asshole, but I missed the pun
>Evelyn "Evel" Grimm Moore.
Losing my touch. Only pun-ishment is sure to follow.
>>98799255
If the Incantatrix's Improved Metamagic (Su) works on Divine Metamagic, I would say Metamagic Manipulation (Su), which is what it is, would also work. I am very tired, I don't know if there's a definitive answer about Improved Metamagic, and I'm not looking into it further this morning / night. Tentatively, yes, Metamagic Manipulation works on DDM.

In either case of Spell-Like Abilities or Innate Spellcasting, it's complicated, but they're generally cast under their own power. Just because an Arcane or Divine or otherwise spell or power is listed as a Spell-Like Ability for an example, doesn't necessarily mean it's even Arcane or Divine.

>>98799319
Sorry for tiring you and thanks for the answer. When you wake up, I guess in character creation for this jump you can't take stuff which would require the agreement of the DM, like spellfire or exalted feats.

>>98799480
I don't sleep. I wouldn't have made the distinction between Silver and Spellfire if I would just let you take Spellfire. Don't ask me stupid questions about shit not offered in the Jump.

>>98799522
Eh, while spellfire is really strong there are various options someone could want to take more balanced but that require master agreement.
Anyway sorry for your insomnia.
I'm still wondering on wether to go for the more optimized route (being a planetar) or a more flavorfoul one, as I dislike being just a random big angel that does big angel thing.

>>98798936
You know it's funny, I'm almost certain that's a holdover when I was initially making the jump as I'd vaguely remembered it: A hardcore, gritty, mostly-realistic game about consequences and gut wounds actually mattering. I remembered thinking that yeah, life is set on Asian difficulty, and maybe minimum gempukku graduation service date is a little harsh. This was obviously, of course, before I read up on Daigotsu and learned that I was fucking wrong, that L5R is a western xianxia, and that anything is possible if you believe in your friends who believe in you. Anyway yeah sure, you can now be a little 13 year old Bushi.

Oh yeah and before I forget, for the -1 people who care about Old Gods of Appalachia, we finally got to the part where Miss Lavinia shreds her dumbass groom. Nothing is made clear. We don't know what's going on. He cut her up in a fit of imagined NTR rage while pushed by the evil Inner Dark entity house spirit thing, which went real quiet right before she started her revenge killing spree and she just kind of came back as an SCP. Nothing will be clear until the next episode, and nobody cares except I who am relieved I will NOT have to offer any kind of spooky house item.

>>98791054
I agree with you on the talent thing. It like mythology where a normal person does not simply have the talent to be Lancelot, Beowulf.

It something I think a lot of learning boosters leave out. They say you learn faster, but never say you got any real potential.

If someone wants to be a level 40, they need to get a uncapped or some kind of talent booster like Naruto true genius.>>98791079
I am that person. But I am not asking for anything in the jump. I have not even read the jump. I am defending the decision to assume their a limit to jumper talent.


>>98796338
Glad to see we are not dealing with that la balance nightmare.

>>98800808
>They say you learn faster, but never say you got any real potential
Potential is interpreted as simply learning faster in this context. It's a similar case with Skyrim's Silmarillion jump where some people bitched that the Elf capstone doesn't make you equal to Feanor because it doesn't explicitly say you learn faster than normal or that it uncaps you, simply that you have the motivation to keep getting gud when anyone else would've taken breaks (which is what Feanor's excellence is attributed to).

>>98794037
I am revising my build. I want to be a mythological Blue Blood / Human+ instead of a Greater Devil. I'm losing some utility, but in future worlds I can keep my Human-looking appearance and so I'll get more use out of that race instead. Works better with Grimoire.
>>98800808
>I am defending the decision to assume their a limit to jumper talent.
I was mad and people have not been good at saying what they mean of late.

>>98801379
Just to be sure, in DND is there any point in bumping a stat in the point buy section up if my jumper is already higher than it because of an outside source like body mod or a perk?

>>98802744
18 is generally considered the upper limit for Humans and 10 the average. Using the Point Buy, it starts at 8. If you start with less than 10, I would say you're making yourself less capable than whatever you chose for Body Mod. If you start with at least 10, assume Body Mod applies to your race without penalties. IRL stats to D&D are not 1-to-1. Quicksilver's BD applies relatively to your race, so assumably does NuBee's

>>98801379
Is your jump on the TG drive? And does it give jumper by default the talent to advance like a pc?

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>>98803576
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ngwQVwtJKWdUlGvmjZKBpbJd97P6DZ43

Few of my Jumps are on the Main Drive. I have uploaded almost none of mine to the Main Drive. White Jumps are older, black ones are newer.
>And does it give jumper by default the talent to advance like a pc?
Read the Jump.

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>>98806698 >>98807062 >>98808309 >>98812865 >>98814559 >>98817584

Chainbutt you can only take Digimon as companions.
What does your lineup look like?

>>98805743
>What does your lineup look like?
Dunno, but given the way digimon work, there's a bunch of questions to ask...
>what stage is considered the default?
>does the companion have to be a digimon by default, or can they be another type of being so long as their kit's focused around being a digimon like the one set of tamers that becomes their 'mon?
>if you use digimon jump stuff to turn another creature into an OC digimon, can you companion them?

>>98806698
>what stage is considered the default?
Whatever their main Digimon form is.

>does the companion have to be a digimon by default, or can they be another type of being so long as their kit's focused around being a digimon like the one set of tamers that becomes their 'mon?
They have to originate as Digimon.

>if you use digimon jump stuff to turn another creature into an OC digimon, can you companion them?
They have to be established Digimon.

>>98805743
I guess I get eight of the ones that look like a hot lady and use them as CP bags in jumps where I could use such but effectively it's pretty much a solo chain.

>>98805743

There is clearly a gulimon in there. Otherwise have no clue.

Through this might be a high powered chain, digimon tend to be rather strong.

>Keychain of Creation
>Drawbacks
Monikers of Unsurpassed Eloquence and Gloriously Verbose Splendor (+100)
Recurrent Crunching (+100)
Are You Sure You’re Sane? (+100)
Missing Family (+200)
All of Your Hate (+200) (The forces of the void)
Random Encounters List (+200)
Excessive Virtue (+200) (Compassion)
Yes, Unfortunately it’s THAT Eye (+300)
Restriction of Red Threads (+300)
>Origin
Scholar
>Perks
Second Breath (300) (Solar)
Heroic Aptitude (Free)
A World More Vivid (Free)
Visage of a Champion (50)
Perfect Memory (Free)
Prowess Bolstered by Flourish (Free)
Crafts of Sorrow and Glory (100) (advanced)
Initiation into Sorcerous Learning (100) (sorcery)
Connections and Leverage (200)
Go Punch that River in Half (200)
Progressive Exalted Recreation (300)
>Items
Components and Reagents (Free)
Memento of Broken Chains (Free)
Thankfully not THAT Eye (100)
Protean Silver Serpent (100)
First Age Fortress Domicile (200)
Infernal Key of Brass and Shadows (200)
>Companions
+100
Immaculate Master (50)
Daughter of the Frozen Moon (50)
Daughter of the Frozen Moon (50)
Heroic ‘Mortal’ (50)
Bond of Terrestrial Brotherhood (50)
Gilded Moonlit Bludgeon (50)
Flame of Ordered Night (50)
Golden Physique Empress (50)
Bountiful Earth (50)
Of Deepest Darkness (50)
Queen of Eternity (50)
Shining Prism Spider (100)
Sublime Feline Trident (100)
A Hoarder Reborn (100)
Epitome of Brilliance (100)
This should work, kinda sad not taking the "the world is stickmen" drawback, it's extremely light, but all the others seem more interesting.
I mean to go on my adventures, help out the protagonists, try to annex Mew Cai to my own Fortress, protect the Eye and so on.
Will probably turn the mortal from hell in a solar.

First try doing something like this!

Shamman of the AGENDA:
First Jump: Fire Emblem

>Drawbacks
90s Grimdark Anime Melodrama +100
Coward +200
Honor before Reason +200
Wanted Criminal +400
>Origin
Mercenary -100
>Perks:
Bargin:-100
Sacrifice:-600
Luna: Free!
Charge:-100
Nihil:-150
Recruitment:-200
Wrath+Vantage-100
Repair-200
>Gear:
Meisterschwert -50

>>98805743
I cannot post images on PC for some reason. But I will pick up my four from Digimon MMO
>Beelstarmon
>Ranamon
>Tinkermon
>Warudamon

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>>98805743
I like sticking to a theme so I'd get the Seven Great Demon Lords and GranDracmon which is a Mega Level Demonic Digimon of equal power to them.

>>98805743
What >>98807062 said pretty much.

Also I noticed otakumick's FR jump lets you play nonstandard races based on CR, naturally I want to abuse the fuck out of it by playing under CRed things like the adamantite horror. Problem: part of the fun of playing an adamantite horror is having an army of lesser robo minions but the adamantite horror gets no special power over them or ability to make them. And as a hegemonizing robot swarm, being the Affirmer of Phenomena from the Cereza and the Lost Demon chain seems like it has a much higher power ceiling overall. What I'm trying to ask is, should I bother or do something else?

Is the pokemon jump still considered the best starting jump? What if you're doing a self-insert chain?

>>98817701
I started with the Pokemon Jump myself, but first generic jump is good. It gives you a lot of body mod abilities (i.e. they follow you through power lockouts and the like) and functions well as a "training course" by Jump-chan.

Speaking of jump-chan, how often do you have her speak to your Jumpers?

>>98811108
Where's the KOC jump from?

>>98817701
I mean, it's not a bad starting jump. Though I'm pretty sure the consensus now is that Quest for Glory is the best starting jump.

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>>98817584
>horror. Problem: part of the fun of playing an adamantite horror is having an army of lesser robo minions but the adamantite horror gets no special power over them or ability to make them.
Dragon Magazine 350 actually elaborates on Clockwork Horrors and they can actually make more Clockwork Horrors, by consuming 200 pounds of iron and 100 pounds of the relevant precious metals, in addition to a gemstone worth at least 100GP, during a process that takes 3 days, though each needs to be activated by the Adamantine Horror with a full round action.

It would take a while but once you got a while of building yourself, but you can eventually outsource all the building on Platinum and Gold Clockwork Horrors with you only needing to handle the activation part.
>What I'm trying to ask is, should I bother or do something else?
I dunno, I think its a cool idea, while the inherent power isnt all that great in the grand scheme of things, the Forgotten Realms do have a lot of cool stuff on offer that your swarm could help you get.

>>98817738
Awesome, thanks. This actually makes the "protect Drizzt" drawback a little more usable now.

So, Shard, what's going to be the hard part of the Immortal Handbook jump? The perk? The items?

>>98817715
Cruelspaceanon made it, it's on the exalted folder.

>>98801379
Hey DDanon, random question, but does the skill monkey perk do anything for an exemplar?

>>98819191
nta, but looking at it the only thing would be that it gives you as many skills even when you take levels in something other than Exemplar/Savant/Factotum, so like if you took the chameleon perk in the origin you'd still have 5 levels worth of max skills.

>>98818518
I'm recovering from a coof. Not THE coof, a coof. Right now, the hardest part is staying awake at work and focused enough to actually write instead of wistfully dithering on anything other than the morbid contemplation of how much lungs are full of slimy dead things. Managed to write most of the first of 3 origin sections, though.

>>98819581
I hope it didn't ruin all of your weekend. Take care of yourself.

At least you didn't get sick at a job where if you don't get results, you're fired.

>>98819649
It more or less did, actually. It's both a blessing and a curse my powerful immune system was most of the way through to fighting it off by the time it was work hours again. And yeah, landing a job so sedentary I could probably decompose at it without raising alarm as long as my zombified corpse clocked in and out sure is useful in times when my focus for jumpmaking is compromised.

>>98817701
It's not that it's the best from any objective standpoint, it's just one of the easier ones to work with since the jump isn't too mechanically complex and the world is only but so dangerous. I'd say most low-end settings with minor supernatural elements could do just as well for a first jump in terms of shaking anon out of their initial head space while not just throwing them in a blender at the deep end to see what happens. Even just a normal slice of life setting with a cast that has unnatural hair/eye colors might be enough if you want to waste a vacation opportunity for the possible shock value.

>>98820226
>I'd say most low-end settings with minor supernatural elements could do just as well for a first jump in terms of shaking anon out of their initial head space while not just throwing them in a blender at the deep end to see what happens.
Pokemon could still be considered "better" than those because you get adventure and supernatural stuff but you retain access to modern culture/amenities, the lack of which would be another significant concern for an early jumper to deal with.

i don't want a slow introduction, i want to kill orsted, laplace, and hitogami on my first jump

>>98820274
Do any of the jumps for that even offer a build that can do that within 10 years? On that note, do any of them have a time extension option so you can live through the bulk of your lifetime there?

>>98820287
yeah, i vaguely remember one where you have a kill laplace drawback and it said you need to wait out the 80 years until he actually respawns

>>98799968
I very much care, but I'm also the only other person who does.

>except I who am relieved I will NOT have to offer any kind of spooky house item.
Reeeeeeeeeeee

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>>98819191
For the Perk, treat it as Factotum.

>>98820757
Thank you for the answer.
I'm at my fourth/fifth build there, now as a weird favored soul/archanamach/warblade/sublime chord/exalted arcanist hybrid who dual wields bastard swords.

you think going all out on skills in DnD is worth it or would it being actually in setting rather than a game dampen their effec too much?

I kinda got the idea for a Paragon Chanegling Rogue/Savant/Chameleon, which means I can basically guarantee a 40-50 on all skills that matter.
which would be utterly broken in a game, but hard to imagine how this would actually manifest.

>>98822173
I would say as long as you don't expect diplomancy or similarly silly things it should work, you would be supernaturally competent in everything.

>>98820757
How do you think the 9 spell-like abilities of the chosen of mystra work?

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>>98822209
>Chosen gain one bonus spell of each spell level 1st through 9th per day, which can be used as a Spell-like ability. Chosen are immune to one spell of each spell level 1st through 9th, just as if the Spell Immunity spell were cast upon them. Once these two sets of nine spells are selected, they can never be change

>Bonus Spells (Sp) A Chosen gains one bonus spell of each spell level 1st through 9th per day, which can be used as a spell-like ability. Once these nine spells are selected, they can never be changed. Most Chosen select a variety of offensive, defensive, and utility spells with this ability.

You can gain access to bonus spells you might not necessarily be able to use in D&D, but because they can be cast as a Spell-Like Ability, you can still cast them as Spell-Like Abilities under your own power even if you're not the level to cast then traditionally.

>>98822206
I mean I dont expect Diplomacy to be able to turn an enemy into an ally in a single round action(less than 6 seconds), but I would expect someone supernaturally skilled at it to still be able to regularly talk his way out of danger or deceive enemies into acting in ways beneficial to him.

>>98823118
>Action
>Changing others’ attitudes with Diplomacy generally takes at least 1 full minute (10 consecutive full-round actions). In some situations, this time requirement may greatly increase. A rushed Diplomacy check can be made as a full-round action, but you take a -10 penalty on the check.
It's harder to do it than people make it out to be, but as you pointed out we're dealing with a literally supernatural, by our standards, level of skill. The Book of Erotic Fantasy makes it easier though, because you can reasonably suggest your Diplomacy use under the Appearance score is on sight and relatively intuitive.

>>98823168
I should note that as a Changeling Rogue my jumper(if I choose to go with that build) can take a 10 on rushed Social Skills.
>Social Intuition (Ex): A changeling rogue has an uncanny awareness of the tone of any social situation in which he finds himself. This grants benefits to a number of his skill checks.
>Making a Gather Information check to gain knowledge takes a changeling rogue only 1d4+1 × 10 minutes, instead of the normal 1d4+1 hours.
>A gut assessment of a social situation with a Sense Motive check can be made as a full round action instead of taking a full minute.
>A changeling rogue can take 10 on Bluff, Diplomacy, Gather Information, Intimidate, and Sense Motive checks, even if stress or distraction would normally prevent him from doing so.
>This substitution feature replaces the standard rogue's trapfinding ability. A changeling rogue without trapfinding can still use the Search skill to find a trap whose DC is 20 or lower, and can still disarm mundane (but not magic) traps with Disable Device, just as any other character without trapfinding.

>>98822839
Thank you for the answer, this will let me qualify for prestige ranger.

>>98823118
Oh, of course, just was saying the most ridiculous abuses, like convincing the epic lich to gift you his phylactery, probably should be ignored, you being skilled at it sweet talking enemies is a given.

Good news: The coof fades rapidly, and I finished up origins. Bad news: Sudden bouts of exhaustion and headache come and go so unpredictably I am legitimately unsure how much progress I'll be able to make on Immortals Handbook tomorrow. Could finish the perks section. Could also nearly blank out in the middle of doing something else. Having to forgo coffee because warm hydration is important has been rough, as if the actual coof wasn't bad enough. But the practical part is, I am legitimately unsure if the jump will be done by the end of this week or tomorrow.

>>98820522
Look, it was basically a bigger and meaner version of that werewolf that fucked with Doc, and Miss Lavinia seemingly hoovered it up or became its new agent or SOMETHING because it stopped returning her betrothed's calls. It's washed. It's done. And it was nothing but trouble and empty promises up to that moment.

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>>98830889

Obligatory 9th Page bump.

Why are SB Jumpers discount cultivation protags?

>>98829031
Because the only real difference between a jumper and a cultivation protagonist is that a jumper's powers don't suddenly become fodder every new jump. Otherwise they're pretty similar.

I guess cultivation protagonists get *slightly* more handouts

>>98829041
Not even, cultivation protagonists can't hold a candle compared to Jumpers when it comes to handouts. The entire premise of Jumpchain is free handouts just for showing up and unlimited power without convoluted power systems like cultivation.

>>98829084
In general, yes, but it's also dependent on the specific jump(s) and chain. There are several like Irregular at Magic Highschool where you can't replicate the protagonist's "build" even if you had 2000 CP. Also, a lot of jumps don't give you upfront power, and it's possible to "waste" your CP on weak/meme options like repeatable-purchase fluffy hair, infinite food items, or bachelor's degrees.

>>98829084
There is the fact that you need to survive for 10 years in each jump, which isn't really hard for most settings.

>>98829097
Original anon was talking about SB jumps which doesn't have those limits in mind though.

>>98822839
Effectively what do you think about optional unhearted arcana content, like prestige base classes and flaws?

>>98828765
I like how ambivalent this creature looks about it's own existence.

>Suckle these tiddy-creatures or kill me already, I'm good either way

>>98830142
>like prestige base classes and flaws
Fuck off. Read the Jump. You're not asking me ambiguous questions anymore. You've burned through my good will.

>>98830142
Two Flaws are explicitly allowed. Prestige Base Classes are still Prestige classes, not Variants, and the only Prestige classes for purchase in the Jump in the Origin perks. You have used up your remaining Ask-DDAnon-A-Question Tokens.

It's great being effectively banned from Jumpchain because the bunker captcha doesn't load properly on my device anymore. Is everyone still posting here also unable to post there, or do you simply refuse to move?

>>98831001
>>98831156
Sorry if I annoy you, I read about the two flaws being allowed, was more curious about blatantly non-canon stuff like prestige classes.
If you don't want to answer me just don't.
>>98831826
I'm just here to more simply read what Shard posts and hope to see Skyrim to ask him stuff, as he didn't move.

>>98831826
I actually like it when threads last for weeks because I don't feel like I need to check in every day. If jumpchain threads last for weeks

>>98831826
I can't even go there. Anything interesting happening in the bunker? Beside Shard's jumps.

>>98833658
It's what these threads used to be but with multiple images per post. Surprisingly active for a walled garden. I never felt comfortable with the whole 8 thing even though it's not That One, nor with the shady verification shit, so I don't look at it often.

>>98833888
Nta, but for the same reason I only really feel comfortable accessing it through VPNs/Tor

At least they seem to have gotten rid of the bots that were occasionally spamming the really bad stuff

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>>98832819
The path forward is through.

>>98834693
As long as you're having fun with it, I suppose.
I will try to avoid asking you stuff if you find it annoying, I'm constantly switching between potential builds I want to do, one purely roleplay-wise and one extremely optimized (Either a Firre or a Ursinal, Ursinal is slightly better, but I don't want to be a bear).

How is it going Shard? Have you recovered?

Also, did you know there is an Old Gods of Appalachia RPG?

>>98835346
>(Either a Firre or a Ursinal, Ursinal is slightly better, but I don't want to be a bear).
Nta, but maybe consider going Couatl, they're 9th level sorcerers capable of casting spells from both the Sorcerer/Wizard and the Cleric list.
Their casting is slightly weaker, but they are still pretty good. They also have some nice abilities like being able turn into humanoid form, turn invisible, turn ethereal, read minds and plan shift at will, the last is especially neat since you can use it offensively, like just send your enemies to the positive energy plane and watch them explode.

They also got pretty valuable poison, scales and feathers which you can sell or use as catalysts for magic

>>98835618
I'm done, actually. Holy fuck jumpmaking while sick SUCKS, I NEVER want to make another jump AGAIN.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Gg5naNjkVHn0P5RrV1b1Aa4_LM8CWYF2/view?usp=share_link

And I'm still recovering but guh, breathing is still congested and I'm still randomly tired and shit still SUCKS

>RPG
Yeah I know, read it as part of the Old Gods jumpmaking. Couple items in there are based from stuff there I think, although I ultimately didn't put in more because Old Gods as a setting is not really as magic item-happy as the RPG would imply

>>98835863
The Firre's better spellcasting is good, but mostly I'm trying to go for a prepared spellcaster, to get exalted spells, I could go for exalted arcanist, but I'm not good enough to take exalted feats.
>They also got pretty valuable poison, scales and feathers which you can sell or use as catalysts for magic
On the other hand you make an excellent point here.
Anyway now I was working at a convoluted build aiming to max out (at 30 gestalt) all power systems, avoiding cheese.

>>98836023
>I'm trying to go for a prepared spellcaster, to get exalted spells
I get it, they're pretty nice.
My Ghaele jumper was basically always under the effect of a greater luminious armor(though figuring out how to use it together with the greater invisibility spell like ability was a pain in the ass)
>Anyway now I was working at a convoluted build aiming to max out (at 30 gestalt) all power systems, avoiding cheese
Personally If I wanted to do that I'd probaby just try to train Chamelon to Epic levels.

Like there is no reason why 10 levels has to be the maximum like in the game.

>>98832819
>hope to see Skyrim to ask him stuff, as he didn't move
I generally keep track of this thread, anon, ask away.

>>98836088
>I get it, they're pretty nice
They really are, starmantle too is a great defense, and as I mentioned in the past I really plan to use sanctify the wicked, on powerful fiends and archfiends, or even making a magic item to use it more liberally.
It also ruined my attempt to make an initiator dual wielder of bastard swords, as favored soul is spontaneous (was trying to make a convoluted hybrid with archanamac/sublime chord exalted arcanist but realized I'm not good enough to be an exalted arcanist, and the whole thing was dumb).
>Personally If I wanted to do that I'd probaby just try to train Chamelon to Epic levels.
That's the sane option, I make this dumb hybrid thing in part for the challenge (it's not like it's an effectively good build, and it doesn't actually use all systems as it isn't a truenamer, but I feel bad at just thinking of truenamers).

>>98835964
There dun been a few updates

>added the prices into Dark goddess' junk
>vastness interaction typo solved

>>98836141
>starmantle
that isnt a sanctified spell, its a cool spell but every sorcerer/wizard can learn it
>plan to use sanctify the wicked, on powerful fiends and archfiends
uh, I should not that the sanctiifed creature template explicitly cant be applied to fiends(or rather outsiders with the evil subtype in general).
>I'm not good enough to be an exalted arcanist
if its about qualifying for exalted feats maybe just try to find a good aligned god you feel your jumper could vibe with. Like some really dont have that high standards.

>>98836177
>that isnt a sanctified spell, its a cool spell but every sorcerer/wizard can learn it
Oh, right, probably confused the name with the much weaker sunmantle.
Anyway you mentioned another big one.
>uh, I should not that the sanctiifed creature template explicitly cant be applied to fiends
You're right, but the spell still has no restriction, and while it can't change their type it can turn them good.
That said yeah, at this point It's probably better to use simpler brainwashing like programmed amnesia on them (fiends weren't immune to that right?), as I prefer to redeem not inherently evil beings with effects not costing levels, so it wouldn't be great for them either.
>if its about qualifying for exalted feats maybe just try to find a good aligned god you feel your jumper could vibe with.
For what's worth the dual wielder build was mainly based on Eilistraee (hence the bastard sword), as one of the good Faerun gods I have no problem with (on the bunker I asked opinions on good gods to see if I was missing some bad actions), the problem is that the exalted feats were reserved to just the most good characters possible.

>>98836137
Oh, thanks, and tell me if I get annoying.
Thr one I can think of now is about the Zenhren perk, am I correct to think it wouldn't give you the authority of event storage, and for that I should either become a true ancestor or a god with specifically that authority?

>>98835964
Thanks for the jump. Nice to see new spark scenarios in almost 2027, even if I don't usually consider doing them.
>Ultimate One
Not sure how to feel about this one. Importing and wanking things from totally different IPs gives off Babylon/Age of Ice vibes desu, but at least it's a relatively inexpensive companion and not an overwanked drawback enemy I suppose.

>>98836150
What does Tamas/the Umbral looks like?

Also, by canon characters from D&D 3.5 realities, does it include characters from Faerun introduced in later editions? And does it include characters from Golarion?

13 Ghosts is ready for Halloween.

>>98837712
So you will start Lewd Warcraft?

>>98837737
On November 4th at the usual time. Potentially after an early strim of WoW Forever if I'm awake at the right time and can get into the servers at a reasonable time.
The next couple of weeks I'll either work on side projects or try out the Elin demo.

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>>98836429
>Tamas/the Umbral
Their descriptions were never finished. I THINK the Void Dragon is meant to be an example, though. And the author did set down some notes about his intended ideas for them here: https://www.enworld.org/threads/4th-edition-and-the-immortals-handbook.204349/page-76

It's uh.
It's very DnD.

>3.5
Nominally 3.5e, but I guess technically you could use the 3rd party material drawback to use the other DnD editions

>>98836278
>this one
Yeah I get it, there's been a reason why I've been biting my arm and not shoving the big spider in every jump I make. There was, bafflingly, demand for it on the bunker. For what it's worth, and I know this too sounds like something Babylon would say, it is unironically written to be beatable in-setting by sufficient firepower and force. I can't give exact numbers and it is FUCKING HARD AS BALLS even without the Transcendent wank, but this is a setting where a guy sat down to stat out living universes.

And also brainstormed quantum golems, reality paradox dragons, un-beings, hyperforms, transelementals and anomalies (cosmic Abominations) he assumed could threaten them. There are, conceivably, some powers that could potentially be read as "lol no" to mimicry or adaptation.

Craig likes turning the dials up to 11

>>98837966
I remember reading the Immortals Handbook pdfs a long time ago and being rather disappointed that the angels (more "biblically accurate" than the official DnD celestials) have stats far below the infamous neutronium golem, for example. I can probably see why an ORT expy written that way in the jump may appear like it's only there to dab on the setting or something lol.
If you're looking for feedback, I think adding advanced purchase tiers to the companion creation option would be a good idea, to make it possible to create your own versions of Transcendent tier Ultimate One or above (in case you don't want GOD's personal bodyguard/guard dog, but perhaps GOD's personal archivist/scribe? I am assuming it would be difficult to do with the 1000 CP they get).

Can someone point me to any jumps which allow me to mess with (Jumper) fertility and childbirth? I want to be a super degenerate.

Also is the L5R jump finished? I'd like to give it a whirl.

>>98837966
How much influence do First Ones have on the creatures native of their dimension/themselves?

And how are Time Lord interactions? By that I mean are they predatory with each other, is it different depending on each one, etc

>>98837966
Weird, with how the companions + drawbacks are written, Warcraft characters can be companions, but not Baldur's Gate 3 characters

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wYKiq_oirfCniQS7ahPFsZz75e7A3fLf/view?usp=share_link

If there's no further objections by morning tomorrow, this'll be the version uploaded

>>98839231
>First One
Exponentially more than Greater Gods like Bane do over their own demiplanes. Satan's dreams are the reason all elementals in IH default to evil and are ruled over by evil beings. Tamas is generally seen as the main consciousness of the entropy dimension's gnawing at the rest of reality. Metatron is Metatron.

>Time Lord
Very little is written, but from what I can tell they're like people, just...bigger. It varies a lot. The possibility of two Time Lords merging willingly is brought up, as is the possibility of one Time Lord savaging another to force its way to dominance in their shared consciousness. The implication seems to be that they are generally rather aloof and monadic, with few concerns other than self-defence.

>>98839361
I've clarified things to highlight I meant third party /in reference to Immortals Handbook/ meaning both Warcraft and BG3 are valid

>>98838845
>advanced purchase tiers
They can take drawbacks now.

>>98839226
>L5R
Yep.

>>98840129
I found the L5R chain. Thanks for putting the effort into both it and the IH chain.

>>98840329
Jumps. We call them jumps in these parts. Chains are when people make multiple builds.

>>98840329
>>98840335
Yoy know, calling them links might have made more sense. Jumping is the act of progressing from one link to another. Jumper still works, see. Less important if a naming retcon than the unfortunate designation of the currency for this game, though.

>>98840129
>They can take drawbacks now.
Appreciated, thank you.

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>>98839226
NuBee's Body Mod has an option at the bottom of the Jump to make yourself selectively infertile. There's two DC Multiverse: Earth-11 Jumps that are on the the separate Main Drives, for some reason. One of them has a perk called Why Does It Have Pincers!? that lets you reproduce with anything. Assuming you don't mean QQ Jumps.

I don't know if one of those Jumps is supposed to be an updated version or what. I just have to throw my hands up at this sort of shit. I can't fucking stand it. There's so many Jumps pissed into the wind. They look like they're different and should be in their own folder together, unless I'm missing drama somewhere.

It's technically morning. Onto the drives it goes.

>>98840901
Yeah, links would've worked. I always thought of them as links in my head honestly, I think that's where the demiurge theme for my old chain came from subconsciously.

I'm finally fucking done jumpmaking holy shit what a relief and what a fucking coincidence I JUST got over the flu after dropping that monster off I'm done I'M DONE I DON'T HAVE TO PUSH MYSELF THROUGH THE FIRE AND FATIGUE TO WRITE TEXT WALLS HOORAY

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>>98842248
And so ends the second Shard Age.

Thanks a lot for all these awesome jumps! I hope you'll get another bout of inspiration soon.

Like maybe a Nasuverse jump that really allows to be ORT.

>>98842303
Y'know, technically there is no restriction on being ORT in Angel Notes. Due to, at the time, everyone assuming ORT was just a normal Ultimate One using the normal japanese term (原初の一アルテミット・ワン, Gensho no Ichi Arutemitto Wan, lit. Primordial/Original One)

And not 極限の単独種アルテミット・ワン (Kyokugen no Tandoku-shu Arutemitto Wan, lit. Extreme Single Species), which given Kuku's comments about Kiara and ORT's stated behaviour may or may not be a hint that ORT is also a Star Eater or SOMETHING ELSE other than just the dominant lifeform of the Oort Cloud.

But Angel Notes don't care. And it's an option in SkyrimAnon's FGO part 2 anyway, where you are not explicitly bamboozled by Malla into thinking you still have your heart.

>>98842384
The origin description of Angel Notes doesn't give justice to the power of ORT, it feels cheap to use it. Also, I know nothing about Angel Notes beside the summary from the jump

And for SkyrimAnon's jump, I dislike jumps who just goes "here is a power level, take something in that". Which is why I was pleasantly suprised with the levels of divinity in The Immortal Handbooks, it felt like each level gave enough details about its mechanics to go around my usual dislike.

Right now, the best Fate jump to be ORT in my eyes is Radiance of Pangaea by FancyFireDrake. Each one of ORT's abilities is a different perk. It just clicks for me.

Also, if you don't want to make more jumps, don't read Lord of the Mysteries. It is awesome, and the current jumps are okay, almost good compared to most Reddit jumps

>>98842592
>Lord of the Mysteries
Way ahead of you, I avoid my countrymen's literature because it reminds me of everything I hate about their mindsets. Skimming Three Body Problem made me hope both the Chinese and the aliens killed each other.

>>98842592
>In this timeline things are a little different. Kukulkan still exists but for one reason or
another ORT... just can not be found. There is nothing but an empty hole in the deepest reaches of Mictlan. This makes Daybit unable to reawaken it, the Foreign God unable to use its power and spares Chaldea one of the most horrific battles they ever could have been forced to fight.
Also COWARDICE
FUCKING COWARDLY JUMP DESIGN
YEAH GREAT IDEA, JUST THROW AWAY THE GREATEST PART OF THE LOSTBELT AND THE ONLY WORTHWHILE THING IN ALL OF PART 2 fucking hell just let Maris win at that point

>>98836216
Zhenren is based on Akuta specifically, who iirc doesn't really have anything extra aside from what the perk itself says it gives you.

I don't think Event Storage is a divine authority thing? From what I remember it's something specific to Arcueid as TYPE Earth or something, but I admit I'm not too familiar with it.

Sorry for the delay, I got clipped by a rangeban.

>>98843176
>>98836216
https://typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Event_Storage

It's something that all True Ancestors can do post-TsukiRe. It's an ability on the same scale as Authority but a "system" rather than a "skill" whatever that means. Akuta can't do it because she's not a True Ancestor, she's a similar but different kind of Elemental that just happens to have bloodsucker gimmicks to be an unnecessarily indirect and convoluted Tsukihime reference while fitting Nasu's autism about Akuta's nature. BB and BB Dubai can also do it too because they are advanced AIs that can break down matter and compress it as spiritrons-effectively compressing the data of reality itself.

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I previously asked the free version of Chat GPT to do a build of my 3.5 Forgotten Realms & Book of Erotic Fantasy Jump.
https://desuarchive.org/tg/thread/98480496/#98509282
The free version required prompting, but the paid version only did once for their gender. The paid version showed a better understanding of long-term planning such as worrying about the leftover 120lbs of gold coins, and only taking the free drawback.
>I'm choosing only DDDungeon Master
>I ask why
>Aster is fundamentally a scholar. She's interested in understanding people, magic, religion, and how societies function
>The additional content would give her more to investigate, particularly how intimacy, relationships, fertility, and sexuality intersect with magic and divine power
Neutral Good plain-Jane freaky ahh AI.
>I would prefer to meet people naturally in the Forgotten Realms, establish real friendships, and eventually form a party around shared interests
>I would actively seek allies with complementary strengths: someone who can hold a battlefield, someone experienced in wilderness survival, and another scholar willing to exchange expertise
I will be generous and say a Fighter, a Trap Expert Ranger for Trapfinding, and probably an Archivist of some other god because:
>I would be particularly interested in learning from good-aligned divine spellcasters whose magic differs significantly from Mystra's clergy

>Year 1
Secure housing and my money, and learn everything possible about local magical institutions.
>2–3
Acquire arcane spellbooks and divine scrolls, study magical history, and use divinations to locate sources of forgotten knowledge.
>4–6
Adventure with trusted allies to improve both Gestalt classes. Investigate ancient magical sites, expand my understanding of planar travel. I'd prefer negotiation.
>7–9
My main ambition would become studying the Weave itself: I would be very careful about provoking major deities or tampering with forces I don't understand.
>10
Prepare to move on.

>>98843560
I like using Gemini for brainstorming since it's free and I'm used to ignoring stupid suggestions. Its firehose of bullshit approach actually works sometimes when it brings up connections I wouldn't have realized otherwise.

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>>98843687
I have generated all sorts of shit, but I worry about how AI is used in anything requiring precision like lore, math, code efficiency, or file sizes. I've generated countless pictures of the duck character I post, webm related and more. I won't sit here and say I don't think AI isn't fucking incredible. I have listened to AI stories (what if X was in Y), music, videos, pictures and porn, and anyone who says there aren't gems is lying. People are even now doing things like adding Skate to GTA or Minecraft to Skyrim, and it's becoming seamless. The problem becomes when you're trying to make something literally as accurate as possible. I've spent hours tweaking singular images before.

It's fine so long as you're the one inputting the creativity, but everyone I've seen use it for Jumpchain are otherwise people I think are detestable, with or without AI. Not that the community seems to have standards anymore. I went through every item compendium I could find when doing my D&D Jump. Even besides everything else, there are fundamental limitations. An AI cannot perceive what item you would think is most valuable if you don't know it exists. We shouldn't use it for Jumps. Like, I appreciate people who image their Jumps. I don't even think it should be used for that, but many times I've fed AI the pdfs of Jumps I've made and asked them to generate an image just to see what it makes. It's like I'm using a Skannerz toy again.

>>98843932
It's not quite the same thing, but Family Time is apparently being made with gen AI for concept art, textures and mesh tests. It's scheduled to replace those with art drawn by real artists with the current art being for proof of concept and to bypass development bottlenecks, and this was allegedly always the plan. But at least AI helped the wolfgirl game go viral and get support faster while in playtesting mode.

>>98843176
No problem, and thanks for the answer.
event storage is compared to an authority and in the past when asked you told me I could take it as an authority >>93424126, and now was seeing if Zenhren were close enough to true ancestors to take it that way instead, but if I can't in these ways I will have to steal it, like Roa stole a principle from Arc.

>>98840129
Just to confirm for Digestion, if they have aspects that are not stronger but different/alien from what you have, do you gain them? The way it is written imply you only get them if they are similar to what you already have

>>98840129
If you are a First One or a Time Lord, does Digestion work through the creatures born of your planes/universe?

>>98846846
You do, yeah. It's the Majin Buu/Kirby option.

>>98846861
Yes but this is pointlessly petty in most circumstances. Like eating your bellybutton lint.

>>98847098
And can Transcendental Annihilator be something that count for Digestion? Like Tamas using Entropy?

Also, regarding the Vecna drawback, if I take the version where he is a First One, do I still need to have a weaker build?

>>98847269
Oh sure, go nuts. There seems to be an implication the different damage types for similar effects on various rungs are MEANT to have special effects, but if they do then Craig never got round to it. Either that or he just assumed that "you can wield cosmic energy/antimatter" was obvious enough and most players had the IQ to determine what happens when you shoot antimatter at a minotaur or Tarrasque.

>do I still need to have a weaker build?
Eh? That was never a requirement. The drawback was simply acknowledging you are probably going to mog regular Vecna without trying. First One Vecna is simply Vecna as a being of actual significance in the IH cosmology, and he's STILL far from the strongest fucker simply because Eve of Ruin Vecna was merely trying to undo all the defeats in his history. And there's no evidence Vecna ever aspired to BECOMING the universe instead of his ambitions in Sigil "merely" being limited to dominion over all mortal realities and the destruction of all pantheons and rival cosmic powers that fundamentally is still predicated on hijacking the Lady of Pain's place of power like a parasite.

Anyone got the latest Aberrant Jumpchain? (v2.2, I believe.) There's a PDF up on Scribd.com, which I can't download from, and the archives only have v1.0.

>>98847779
It's in the drive.
Everyone Else/Needs Image/A-E

Not that anyone HOPEFULLY cares, but I just wanted to confirm to this side of the pond that I am absolutely confident there will not need to be a Hellaverse update due to the new Helluva Boss season because the faggot owl is too much of a ditherer to even make truly innovative drawback ideas. Every time I see Vivziepop produce a financially successful media franchise with less effort and artistic integrity than some fanfictions I've seen written, I find new and innovative ways to hate women.

I wonder if the UNSC/UEG would consider a sort of protectorate or client status from a larger civilization if they get the covenant off of them during the human-covenant war.

>>98850050
Halo's lore is fucking retarded. Everything in terms of politics that Halo tried to do, Killzone would go on to do better. The colonists have no reason to listen to Earth, and without the Spartans they wouldn't even have anything to make then listen. Anything you try to do will just have ONI trying to kill you in the background.

>>98850050
Yes. It was an existential war with the consequence of losing being genocide. They would take any fucking deal you can offer them.

>>98850116
Who shit in your cereal, anon?

>>98829084
99% of cultivation protagonists have some ridiculous cheat

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>>98850116
Even if Cortana didn't sunder all of human civilisation, BEASTriox would've slaughtered ONI.

>>98851452
He got his ass kicked by a half-crewed ship of people with technology decades out of date.

>>98850433
A jumper can get omnipotence and any cheat that a cultivation protagonist can get and they don't need to jump through hoops to do it.

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I am not cooking, but cooking is being done. Trying to see if a setting is worth being made into a Jump, and for once it's not horny nonsense. If it is, I don't know if I can get it done by the 31st. If not, Sinful Vampires will have to be my spooky month contribution.

https://youtu.be/-MgorzW8G3Apz3UgnB0XJrbDgFU

>>98851847
And yet, before that he was the main reason why the previous conqueror of the galaxy (who defeated modern humanity where both the Covenant and the Forerunners failed) had her power base so thoroughly destroyed, no trace of it remains by the time he himself took over it.

>>98852162
the scale of them is often higher in cultivation, and they don't need to jump through hoops for them either

>>98853084
To be fair, there are some perks that actually disadvantage guys with greater scale, like Contrary Conjunction from Medaka Box which materialises an outcome based on it being the least likely thing to happen.

>>98853750
It lets you reach an opposite conclusion to what you normally would from a given premise. For example "You're stronger than me, therefore I'll win." It's not a passive effect, it only takes effect through the specific statements the user makes with it. If you're not dumb as bricks you can find any number of ways of using it without using yourself as a reference point.

>>98852374
In DnD, would the perk that lets you ignore material components affect the cost of making magic items based on spells that require material components?
Like say my jumper made a scroll of Raise Dead, would he have to include the price for the diamond as usual or or just pay the normal price of a fifth level scroll?

May have to alter my item crafter build depending on the answer, since for some items that can be a significant change.

>>98853084
If you are literally trying to say that cultivators scale higher than omnipotence then that is hilarious VSbattles shit.

>>98856529
IIRC the feat for ignoring material components has a limit on the price of what you can ignore. I think it's like 50gp max so if it costs more than that you have to pay?

>>98856764
Eschew Materials is not Ignore Material Components.
>>98856529
I am done answering questions for my D&D Jump if I'd otherwise consider the answer obvious.

>>98841752
>pic
I thought it was Miracle Man to preserve the alliteration?

>>98856735
cultivation is one of the only genres that actually keep up with jumpchain

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>>98857019
Miracleman already exists. He's an offbrand version of Marvelman.

>>98857391
Low-mid 2nd step cultivators in the Ergenverse can cause planetary devastation with contemptuous ease.

>>98857391
There are jumpers that could oneshot every cultivator at once.

>>98857962
both sets include the omnipotent, so you can't really say anything about that

>>98856764
the feat you are talking about doesen't actually allow any valuable material wih a worth above 1gp, its really just for little stuff like so you dont need things like guano and sulfur for making a fire ball.
The feat/perk I am talking about has no limit, so you can resurrect people witout spending any diamonds and the like.
>>98856910
>I am done answering questions for my D&D Jump if I'd otherwise consider the answer obvious.
Sorry? I didn't think the answer to that one was obvious, you also dont really find much discussion online about the implications of epic feats.

>>98858023
>you also dont really find much discussion online about the implications of epic feats.
Nta but like using trap the soul/bind soul without a gem to actually hold the soul as it's a material component?

Why are Fate mages all about the unga bunga when choosing servants? They want saber because stronk, not to mention utter retardation like summoning Hercules as a berserker when he could've swept the whole HGW no contest as any other class. You'd think mages of all people would see the value of hax over raw power. Hell, there should be lots of mages that see getting temporary access to something like Rule Breaker as a more worthwhile pursuit that trying to win the HGW.

>>98858319
yeah that one is espeically weird since there are several non-epic monsters(mostly evil outsiders) with soul trap as spell like ability so they dont need the gem either.

I gave this a decent bit of thought as I heavily considered starting as an Ak'chazar Rakshasa or Pleasure Devil, both of whom have this ability.
For the Pleasure Devil I just decided that it would instead turn the soul into a soul larvae, which is the form souls are traded in in the lower planes, but as far as I know there is no canon/official answer.

>>98858343
>Why are Fate mages all about the unga bunga when choosing servants?
Because for a lot of them they do have a strong ego as results of all the fucked up supernatural politics and they dont trust someone smarter and better than them. Though there are exceptions, mercenary types and the like who do prefer more subtle servants, like Kiritsugu would have loved teaming up with an assassin or caster.
>not to mention utter retardation like summoning Hercules as a berserker when he could've swept the whole HGW no contest as any other class.
that one was actually specifically because they wanted a mindless servants they could control without any issue, since they saw Kiritsugu's struggles with Saber in the fourth war and how from their perspective it resulted in the destruction of the grail.
>You'd think mages of all people would see the value of hax over raw power.
they do if they are the ones controlling it, needing to rely on an outside party really grates on their nerves. But if the war was about becoming a demi servant for example I could see them much more eagerly rely on it.
>Hell, there should be lots of mages that see getting temporary access to something like Rule Breaker as a more worthwhile pursuit that trying to win the HGW.
Yeah, again Ego, though some do like this from the get go, or come around to it.
Like we know Roche for example, the master of Avicebron in Apocrypha was initially jealous of his servant being ridiculusly better at making golems then himself, but quickly came around to it because of how much he loves the magecraft and tried to learn from him instead, though that fucked him over in the end when Avicebron wewnt full mage and sacrificed his master to accomplish his magecraft.
Paracelsus in Prototype similarly was valued by his master and eventually betrayed him.

Best usage I can think of was probably by Reeve in Fate Strange Fake, he summoned Dumas and then put him to work in mass porducing noble phantasms for his own troops.

>>98858343
>You'd think mages of all people would see the value of hax over raw power.
See, here's where the problem of hubris kicks in. Your stereotypical arrogant young master-I mean, magus (although actually the terminology is technically correct) thinks that the MAGE with his years of study is supposed to provide the hax using his family's (theoretically) treasured magecraft preserved throughout the ages so their (theoretically) powerful mystical secrets can be unleashed for the sake of a (potential) miracle. Due to being able to cast magecraft on both the Servant and enemy Masters.

And the SERVANT is supposed to provide the unga bunga, being able to (theoretically, under ideal situations) nuke both enemy Servants and Masters.

>>98856529
>>98858023
No. Spells and magic item creation are distinct processes.

>>98858373
Honestly, it just feels like summoning a Caster is not only the best combat-wise the most risky option with the most potential to backfire with them being able to fuck with the summoning to pursue their own ambitions. In addition to those others, see everything that Medea did.

>>98858373
>>98858606
>the best
*NOT the best

>>98858606
yeah you do need to luck out with personality being compatible with the caster in just the right ways to the point that they are willing to sacrifice their own ambition for you, like Medea and Kuzuki or Semiramis and Amakusa.
And as we see with Roche its not even enough to just be super similar to them.

>>98858585
isn't casting the spell part of the process of creating the items?

The other place down for you guys?

>>98858645
no, moe and st both work fine to me

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>>98858023
>The act of working on the armor triggers the prepared spells, making them unavailable for casting during each day of the armor’s creation. (That is, those spell slots are expended from his currently prepared spells,
>just as if they had been cast.)"

>This cost is only for spells activated by the item that have material or XP components.
>Having a spell with a costly component as a prerequisite does not automatically incur this cost
>if the item doesn’t actually cast the spell.
>>98858585
Only some parts of them both are distinct. There are exceptions.

Stop asking me stupid questions for which the rules are clear. In cases where it actually casts a spell, I would argue you don't pay it.

>>98859046
Thanks for the answer and sorry for annoying you, but I really dont think that was such an obvious case, especially since there are cases where the amount of castings an item offers cant be matched by the amount used in the creation process. like you can make a wand with 50 charges of 3rd level spells in two weeks even if you can only cast 1 3rd level spell per day.
Like based on the wording of things I really could have seen either way as reasonable.

>>98859352
you shouldn't apologize to him, he's the one acting like a cunt to you

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>>98859816
He has asked me over a dozen questions. The two questions prior to this one was something I even completely unambiguously addressed in the Jump itself. If you actually looked at the magic item creation rules, the answer is right there. I am the one going out of my way to screenshot and address what I believe to be asinine, and still I do it. Fuck me? Fuck you.

>>98859890
>He has asked me over a dozen questions
just to be clear that was not me. I think this was the third question I asked you, first was about if the ban on 3rd edition material includes erratad stuff, second was about the price of stacking spellcaster classes and races, and then this one.
Though I also asked two questions into the thread about if anyone had an idea how my Rejkar build could acquire a human form, and one about potentially speeding up the time of magic item creation.

>>98859890
the correct response to this kind of annoyance is to just not respond and pretend you didn't see it, not throwing a hissy fit like in >>98856910

>>98833888
I know this post was 5 days ago, but I wouldn't consider the Bunker anywhere near prime /jc/ at least as far as quality discussion is concerned

>>98859958
I apologize then, but nevertheless I've been asked in this thread alone far too many questions, and way more than a dozen in the past two. Jumpchain isn't the 3.5 general. To an extent I appreciate the interest in the Jump, but this place does not get enough traction for me to answer them all without annoying me and consuming general. This thread has been up for 2 weeks, and a 1/4th of all posts are me or Shard.

>>98859890
Nta, I asked you a fair bit of questions, but honestly it's mainly because seeing the place a bit dead I figured it wasn't an issue to use it to ask a few questions about the jump and try to start conversations.
As I saw you were snippy and annoyed I just stopped asking.

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>>98858606
Look, you know how IRL people YOLO into memecoins and penny stocks hoping to not even have to think in order to do a low IQ thing in order to get generational wealth?

This is what mages rushing to summon Saiba think like, in terms of Servants. Theoretically, THEORETICALLY, you don't have to think once you summon Saiba, you just make her charge at the enemy Servants, tank everything they can dish out magically, and literally wipe Servants and Masters alike off the map.

Obviously the ideal Servant is one who can do everything and that's what the Einzberns tried to get Angra Mainyu, but also mages don't fully know how their setting works and once again, overreached while trying to grab the easy Servant money.

I still think the obvious one is to summon a Hassan and have them assassinate the enemy masters.
That strat is so hard to counter without a lot of trial and error, and Hassans even have the advantage of both generally being pretty loyal/obedient, and having a compability summon pretty much build into the process as you get the one of the 18 you are most compatible with in the first place. Not to mention that they dont tend to have any costly NPs.

Test. Are we out of the cuck chair?

Does anyone have advice on how to use solo RPGs to simulate successes and failures in their chains? I'm thinking about using a really ruleslite game (RISUS RPG) to just simulate things like skill checks and fights.

My question is, do you have any advice on converting the perks and traits you gain from jumps into something like RISUS?

>>98861094
i tried once

what you want is a basic rule system that tells you when to roll dice based on likelihoods you yourself assign, and a clock system to see when something unexpected happens so that you can go roll on random tables to figure out what it is

since you're going to need to keep it setting agnostice, try to find random tables that make sense for that

i assume that different jumps might want you to run different clocks, you're just gonna have to figure that out yourself

the most important thing for me was to give some structure ahead of time that i could follow like a timetable, there was a drawback that said a group of enemies will keep coming after me, so i just decided they do it once every month, that really helped a lot with structuring things, but i had to pretend like i don't see the very basic monthly pattern

There was a super hack of the Internet because of a dumbfuck Indian company. Make sure all your browsers and apps are updated to the latest version.
>>98852374
My item options for this Jump runneth over. I have spent more time trying to best-in-slot items than anything else.

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>>98860065
You got the community you wanted and now you're complaining that you have to interact too much on the thread.

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>>98861289
/tg/ has a 3.5 general, and this isn't it. They're lonely over there and could use the engagement. They sometimes actually slide off. Asinine questions from people who don't know the material of the subject they're trying to Jump are of no interest to me. Likewise, my being asked to fill in those gaps is infuriating. It's different if it's a question like >>98819191 that's influenced by the Jump itself, or an actually obscure lore question.

In my attempts to be responsible for the settings I have made Jumps of, I try to engage with things that annoy me anyways, but I am not sociable, and I never will be. I am genuinely not a part of the social club. The only namefag names I can consistently remember, in order, are stupid_dog and Shard (tripcode: XGS [to see how many posts here we've made relative to each other]). I am stuck, by my own choice, over here because even if I have talked to some of these people for literally over a decade and a half, I won't pretend they're my friends. I try to reward social convention with social convention, but I am not holding open the metaphorical door at this metaphorical convenience store because I want you to like me. People have already seen what I do when given absolute control, I just work on my Jumps and make jokes.

You're free to ask me whatever, and I'm free to get annoyed by it. The worst that will come of it is my telling you to figure it out yourself. I try to limit my posts per thread to 1 per 10 posts, and of those I would prefer them to be silly shitposts, but we've had threads where it's 70+ posts of me arguing with someone.

>>98860425
The obvious one is to summon LIZ and sweep the competition with the power of LIZ LOVE and memes.

Shard, can you give us the lore for your Hazbin Hotel update?

>>98861543
DD, I know the setting, I make the questions I do because I'm unsure of which aspects are integrated in the jump, and because I feel like discussing the actual jump is better than shitposting.
Nta.
>>98862487
Not him but Helluva boss is having a new season, so he's making a few updates, like mentioning Goetia can live on the sun.
Found the updates he mentioned
>Added Goetia upscale based on a gay spanish parrot’s backstory + you don’t strictly have to be a bird-thing now
>Added Hell Law Degree
>Added Goetic Fortune
>They canonised the idea the Goetias have titles and privileges and legions and shit so that’s an option for Hell of a Sale now
>Added The Seafood Special

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>>98865105

>>98862487
You know, sometimes a picture really is worth a thousand words. Take a good look at this image, and picture what comes to mind when you contemplate its implications.

Whatever you see is 100% accurate to what the FUCK is going on in Helluva Boss Season 3.

>>98861543
You are one of the ten, if there are even ten regular posters here. The population in this thread isn’t going to grow. You might as well make peace with that and accept that you are going to be the majority of activity alongside Shard. If you spend the majority of thread arguing with people, that is a reflection on you and your choices.

>>98863086
Stolas is getting fucked hard and ceaselessly and unleashing his inner slut? Good for him, finally accepting his true self.

>>98865105
That and Blitzo is being told he is bad and wrong for criticising this, yeah. He gets slapped around by buff bara dom demons and loves it (and is provided tender aftercare later) after Loona gave him Demon Grindr under the impression he'd broken up with Blitzo (after a series of miscommunications stemming from him punishing himself for abandoning his child and endangering his friends). He just blew Blitzo off (and not in a hot way) to go on a dinner date with Vassago (the spanish parrot who stood up for him during the trial) who was retconned into being his OTHER childhood/college friend he just never talked about for some reason.

This is portrayed as Stolas "finding himself" all the while Blitzo constantly malds and is told to cope about it because he used to be a manwhore too and isn't allowed to slutshame.

I am not shitpostinng. The main plot of S3 is literally toxic gay sluttery and NTR.

>>98865105
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psid7ZduEhM

Official Amazon product btw

>>98865607
Nah, I believe it. That sounds on brand. Frankly I don't know what else you'd expect from Gay Hell 2: Toxic Yaoi Gaiden Edition OTHER than toxic yaoi and sluttery. Hellzbin's always been about "Everyone should fuck everyone, ESPECIALLY if it's gay as fuck." Class divides? Emotional boundaries? Whaaat? We're in Hell, just fuck and drink all the time forever. Blitz just needs to go manwhore it up and that'll unironically solve his problems somehow.

>>98865612
> Official Amazon product btw
Corpos don't care about shit like that. They say they do, but they're really just fidgeting around while they fret about imaginary target demographics. As soon as the dollars start rolling in they change their tune real fast, and Hellzbin makes a lot of teenage girls horny.

>>98861174
Thanks for your input. I'm gonna give some different things consideration and look around at different genre agnostic systems. :)

The idea about clocks is really sound advice. I think I've come up with a couple different ideas for how I can handle things based on actions, clocks, and random encounter chance. You've given me some good ideas. Thanks!

Up

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>>98871906

DOWN, DOWN, LEFT, RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, B, A, START
>page 8
Dead as a doornail. There is a distinct lack of locking-in on my behalf. I do not think I will get this Jump done before the 31st. I already know the material, but my heart's not in it, and I just spent three days naming and balancing the items in my head. I'm like 75% done naming perks, and while I can do whole sections in a day once their named, I'm not interested, lol. If I don't get it done before the 31st, I will become even less interested.
>what's the Jump
Iz a zecret.
https://youtu.be/Dh0SspsnpXMzWnIGWQl2-7sU-8S

>>98871858
>Iz a zecret.
Is it at least for a real IP this time, or is it just more forgettable lewd shovelware?

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>>98871906
>>98852374

I'm tempted to make an idle/incremental game based on Jumpchain and then a jump based on it

>>98872802
At this point, wouldn't that basically just be current MtG Commander/Modern with the serial numbers swapped out for a Temu branded Fortnite decal?

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>>98872802
>and then a jump based on it

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As a show of my resolution to never again jumpmake, I've been avoiding bringing up VisionQuest until having caught up with it fully, and I wouldn't have said shit if there truly was nothing to bring up. And arguably, there still isn't. The timeline of events is still up in the air.

But I just wanted to stay that if you get F.R.I.E.N.D. and Tools of a Vision, yes you can totally put the AI into something aestheticlaly similar to Jocasta's femme Ultron body, that is an option.

>>98872802
That got me thinking, are there any jumps made by someone involved in the creation of the original media the jump is based on?

>>98876431
nta, but I think there are some fanfic jumps in SB that may have involved the author. I remember something along those lines, but never looked too deeply into it.

>>98794037
Yo, can we take items in your BoEF jump as items that fill the same slot?

Specifically, I wanna take the Belt of Magnificence +6 as a chastity cage, since they take take up the same slot and I have autistic sensory issues with wearing belts specifically.


Also, which charisma score is said belt boosting? BoEF splits them into two and the item doesn't clarify. Same with the charisma boosting manhal

>>98879045
Your manner of typing vexes me. I am not answering you.

>>98879492
So, yes then. Thanks!

I should make the price scale for my next jump 100/200/300/500.

Do any of y'all use ttrpgs to gamify what happens in your jumps? Especially the generics. If so, any recommendations?

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>>98880233

Everything is now figured out and named. I have just 50 screenshots to sort through here before bed to make sure I haven't missed anything obvious. That leaves me with roughly 5 days to finish this to count as a second Halloween Jump. More tenable than initially thought, but if I have one ADHD day, I'm fucked. The notes were a big part that was kicking my ass. It's wiki failed me, so I had to become a wiki.
>>98879984
>>98880001
It's good to have confirmation then that the other poster has been a shitposter this whole time.

Go back to your failed pngtuber stream, 9tard. Of all the social club retards, you trying to use Jumpchain as a springboard for a YouTube career is probably the most shallow thing any of you have done.

>>98880173
What the fuck are you sperging out about, dinglefuck? I was just curious if anyone else used games to play out their jumpchains. Specifically solo games.

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>>98884043

>>98880233
>generics
I will be giving you 1 Star on Yelp.

>>98879984
As long as you have somewhere around 4 perks/items at minimum priced at 50, that's fine. There just needs to be enough of those little things in case someone picks up an odd number 300/500 options on a discount, and 2 things priced at 50 isn't quite enough while 3 introduces the same problem if all of them are something a player wanted.

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>>98881764

>>98879492
>he replied

>>98880463
nta but I'd put options that no one would ever want just to make people struggle between their disgust and their compulsion to spend all their points.

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>>98880001
I'm...not entirely sure this is what you mean, but now I'm finally done with all the work to lay the foundations for my new chain, the premise of it is that the "Jumper" is actually 5 3e Infernals that will discover a way to bootstrap themselves into having the powers of a Jumper. Each of them will, eventually, share 200 CP apiece from the usual starting stipend in other jumps. In order to set that up, their first arc is actually just going to be the Exalted 3e Infernals jump that they all spawn from. And to simulate their development, I'm engaging with the mechanics of Exalted 3e over in my self-imposed quarantine thread on the bunker.

DO NOT DO THIS UNLESS YOU ENJOY PAIN

THIS IS AN ASININE, SELF-DEFEATING PILE OF TOMFOOLERY

I am only doing this because for years now, Exalted 3e has by turns enraged and amused me both from what a retarded shitshow of a garbage fire it is in terms of mechanics, rules and lore, that has once again resulted in Infernals comically dominating the game simply by coming in after everyone else is done fucking up and learning from the mistakes of the past but also having more going for them than being the Lion's flunkies. I am doing this to viciously mock the desecration of something I once enjoyed, after waiting YEARS between sourcebooks and STILL not getting comprehensive FUCKING rules for how NPCs are even supposed to work, with Infernals as the proxy for my revenge (much as the Yozis are using them in 3e), and armed with an arsenal of obscure meta in-jokes that will only make sense to anyone keeping track with all the editions of Exalted and the inherent silliness of 3e's rules in particular. Such as why Ligier in 3e is normally unassailable by most characters, but can be felled by an Abyssal with the power of psychosexual unicorn tapdancing, or an Infernal being themselves. I am a bitterly disappointed birthday boy kicking over the cake and throwing my LEGOs out of the window.

>>98880463
I'm just shitposting, actually. I hate those awkward 50cp increments.
Even worse idea: 100/300/500/700 and the 100cp options aren't freebies.

>>98880233
DD barely interacts with most of the generals on /tg/, so it isn’t any surprise that he has that mindset towards any /tg/ topic that isn't mainstream.

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>>98880498
I fought off the Quicksilver Empire. Do you think I'd be scared of an illiterate SpaceBattler? Or a social club retard.
>>98881106
I only interact with three generals on /tg/, 40k, /3.5/, and here. Relatively, the only people who contribute more to /tg/ would be the people in /cyoag/ and Shard, but he seems done for the foreseeable future. I am the 1% of 1%. This little fat Chud duck is what peak performance looks like, unironically.