That A2O Lite just dropped and all the social media cries that that are "inappropriate" and their shorts are too short, too small, and they're *gasps* minors! And the kpop industry is using them and unironicly say "this should be illegal!". When the fuck did the west get so purtian about age? Do these kpop idiots know that BoA kwan debuted at age 13? Justin Biden was uploading his songs to YouTube and got famous at age 13? Morning Musume, folder5 and countless other old and current jpop and idol groups routinely have members in their teens. What's the big deal? Everyone is acting like it's some moral scandal that needs investigation. Is this some sort of fenimist doctrine invading music? Or normies not realizing and understanding that truly talented people will perform at a professional even at an early age?Im gen y, and never did people even bat an eye at that sort of fashion back then. I remember girls in 7th grade wearing daisy dukes to school. It was just normal. Even the clothes A2O Lite is wearing is mild. Its just dance clothes. I see far wrose and explicit "clothing" girls the same age wear at the mall currently. What is this wave of purtianism in music about? The moral panic so strange to me as a child of the Y2K era where everyone had a bare midriff.While A2O Lite is mild and cute, countless gen alpha right this moment are doing music dance lewds on TikTok and other streaming apps but those same purtians dont give a fuck. Its so strange. Its like everything is reversed. 25 years ago, I would have never even consider girls that age doing lewd steams, and normal cute clothing being taboo. This world has gone upside down in its priorities to decide what to get purtian about.I smile knowing that a few years those A2O members will be dominating kpop culture. The A2O Lite era is just beginning. They have a solid 10 years ahead of them at least. If they dont burn out.
"Oh no, cover my eyes and arrest the producer and agency that subjected those poor girls to those lewd costumes!!!"
These girls are wearing platform boots, just like street walkers! And those shorts are TOO short and you can see their bellybuttons! They are practically NUDE minors!!! Arrest japan already! Pedophile country!!!
Maki Goto joined Morning Musume at age 13. She saved the group. They would have disbanded if she didnt win the audition and join when she did at that age.
I'm out of the loop, is misspelling puritan a pedo inside joke?
>>131961024Are you one of em Purtians?
>>131961024>pedoFalse. All of the A2O members are post puberty. An example of a pre puberty girl group is Berryz Koubou at debut. https://youtu.be/-6rpTVsY9GU?si=dsEh1T5j_w_HqCXHI hated this group back then btw, but after they grew up a bit, I think they're okay. Only gave them a chance after they disbanded. https://youtu.be/zUScN5qP2Fc?si=RUds4tH_xERVtNxs>pedoWhy the hell does everything have to be sexual with you people? You Purtianians see da evil sex in everything. Even cute girls doing cute things. Stop thinking such lewd thoughts and you will be free of your moral panic.
and no one complains about the fact BTS’s Jungkook debuted at 15
>>131960903It's something specific to the Kpop community. Sure there is a wider trend but it's worse amongst Kpopfans.
South Korea has an infamous radical feminist movement that recently has been intermixing with westernershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megaliahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womad_(website)
>>131960903Imagine thinking anyone outside of your deranged faggot kpop circles gives a shit
>>131960903They added these girls to a chatting app were you can to AI versions of them. That's one of the worst parts in all this. I don't care if they debut that young as long as they aren't sexualized (outside of the few adult members).>countless gen alpha right this moment are doing music dance lewds on TikTok and other streaming appsFor either their friends, themselves or the boys their age.>>131961066>You Purtianians see da evil sex in everything. Even cute girls doing cute things. Stop thinking such lewd thoughts and you will be free of your moral panic.How much adult moe do you watch or look for? If it even exists? Does your "cute girls doing cute things" from anime extend into adult women?>All of the A2O members are post puberty.doesn't matter. It's still weird as fuck if you do certain shit with underaged idols.>An example of a pre puberty girl group is Berryz Koubou at debut.What the fuck.>>131961136I didn't know>>131961271I've been at war with Western feminism at points but I'll defend that shit to the grave over the Megalia / Womad bullshit.>>131960930Yes it's a universial problem. Only Koreans and Japanese turn it into beef between each other.
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>>131960903> I remember girls in 7th grade wearing daisy dukes to school.again. FOR THEIR AGE GROUP>Justin Biden was uploading his songs to YouTube and got famous at age 13?He wasn't involved in a weird chat app that made AI versions of Justin for people to chat to. >acting like it's some moral scandal that needs investigationIt is though. It's not the clothing with A20 Lite or the ages itself. >I smile knowing that a few years those A2O members will be dominating kpop cultureUntil an actually organic very late Gen Z or Gen Alpha sound or trend takes over and they have to change the sound. (2008 - 2013 from what I've heard because they have the "Zalpha" gimmick and all that crap). You don't know how the game will be played until it plays out. Tons of up next predictions get it wrong. It's like job hunting in a shit job market. Curb the expectations and let it all play out imo.
>>131964413/pol/ bullshit.Everyone hates pedos without question. The trans issues and the Jewish question are more complex and have more nuance.
>>131964481We're not talking about pedos and haven't for over a decade we're talking about the social hysteria over the perfectly natural attraction to pubescent females that happen to be under the arbitrarily defined age the state has decided - and thus these males exhibiting this perfectly natural behavior must be cut into a million pieces, skinned alive, castrated, and whatever other completely normal and well-adjusted thoughts the upright and decent moral police have on the matter.
>>131964521People just shouldn't act on that shit. I don't find 13 year Olds attractive. 16 year olds maybe but these things are in place as a protection measure and not form people's pleasure.
>>131960903Americans have always been insanely puritan, they are literally all puritans, their entire culture is literally descended from the literal puritans that metaphorical puritanism is named after.
This "boycott A2O Lite" smells Like Hybe
>>131964463I've far worse and blatant sexualization of pre teens in America. Im not Amish, a pilgrim, or Muslim. This A2O stuff is mild. They are beautiful and cute girls. So what? They arent twerking on stage you'd see in America. This is just Hybe and SM trying to stir controversy.
>>131964406You sound young. Are you a zoomer?
>>131965493>puritan*Purtian
What's the appeal of watching a bunch of high school girls dance around?
>>131964912You don’t have to find them sexually attractive. Aesthetic appreciation and sexual desire are two different things. Bright, unspoiled youth can be charming and compelling on its own without anyone needing to sexualize it. A lot of Western audiences struggle with that distinction and immediately jump to the worst interpretation.NewJeans hit so hard at debut partly because they had that fresh, youthful energy. they looked and felt like kids who hadn’t been ground down by the industry yet. After the scandals, the court cases, and all the public ugliness, that sparkle disappeared. People pick up on it even if they can’t explain why. The members themselves had to deal with adult-level conflict and pressure, and it showed.The A2O Lite members will eventually age out of that same phase too. That’s just how it works. The smart move (and what I’d like to see LSM do) is the Tsunku / Morning Musume approach: keep bringing in new young members while the older ones graduate and move on to other things. Morning Musume has been doing this for nearly 30 years and is still going. I’d love to see A2O as a group still active in 2050 just to make people like you seethe.
>>131966076That's also what shes thinking.
>>131966076LOL
>>131960903Haters are going to hate
>>131966170>Bright, unspoiled youth can be charming and compelling on its own without anyone needing to sexualize itokay, so why only watch high school girls dance around and not high school boys?
>>131965888SM sister on damage control
Young talent performing at proffesional levels and debuting isnt new and it's normal. This moral panic is dumb.https://youtu.be/Jkv14j6KbjM?si=w6WgO5Rhg0ZwzjWL
>>131966170Truth nuke. That's why I hang out at playgrounds. Watching children play is just invigorating, more kino than your average hollywood slop.
>>131970518After you have kids you see young people differently. Youth is a fleeting thing of beauty. Seeing young people perform on stage in the prime of their youth is beautiful.
thoughts on Kidz Bop?
>>131970685Kidz slop.Kek. nah I dont care. Too western cringe for me, but my friend's daughter likes them. As performers, Im sure many kids would love to be in their place. I have nothing against them or their fans. The problem with kpop fans is that they have a big problem of "stop liking what I don't like!". Thats the root of it. J-pop fans rarely have such open aggression and drama towards other groups or idols. Some stuff isn't my cup of tea, but I love the weird groups and musics in j-pop that k-pop would never do. I like fresh trends and new directions. Im old enough to remember BoA's debut. She was the new generation of k-pop at the time.
>>131970760Also LSM really pushed BoA into Japan. Hired Mai from the Avex group Dream to write the Japanese lyrics. LMS is one of the reasons why Korean music even took root in Japan in the first place. He's going to push hard into Japan with A2O Lite and am sure they will do well there.With Cutie Street doing well in Korea now, he sees the writting on the wall that the Girl Crush trend is over.
>>131970781I remember when this song first came out in Japan.https://youtu.be/gsStQ4Vezbw?si=Ed57HMRoZzcrQA2C
I see the pedo never answered my question. Point proven.
>>131960903Kpoopers posters are 55yo pedos? Really?
>>131960903never engage in social media performative outragelet them seethe and enjoy the cute girls
>>131974024I support this, remember that social media outrage is monetized
>>131970781A2O LITE speaking Japanese https://x.com/j1o_vr/status/2114662634360644045LSM is for sure going to push into Japan. Japan will love these girls.
Bueno
>>131960903it's female intersexual competition
>>131966076>>131967625>>131972962You're either a homosexual or a middle age woman. Probably a tranny or both.
>>131972962But highschool girls aren't pedophilia? Let me guess, you're American.https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/indy100/eyHrota93g/25946-1fflttv.jpg
>>131974263touched a nerve? lmao
>>131974309Touched what. Wrong guy.So are you a homo or a bitter old witch? Or both.
Pic related: Only people who never took dance classes when they were young would say something this dumb.>>131966076Idiot.
>>131960903Grok:**This is an example of moral panic** The backlash treats routine K-pop stagewear and long-standing teen debuts as a sudden, extreme moral crisis.A moral panic is a disproportionate reaction that amplifies a perceived threat far beyond the facts—using emotional language, demands for bans, hostility toward the “folk devils” (here the company or stylists), and rapid media/social amplification—while treating the behavior as new and uniquely dangerous.In the A2O Lite case:- **Disproportion**: The main targets were crop tops, short shorts/hot pants (often with safety shorts), short skirts, and midriffs during energetic choreography. These are standard girl-group performance outfits, not extreme by K-pop/J-pop history. Critics framed them as “underwear,” “disgusting,” or something that “should be illegal.”- **Historical continuity**: Young debuts are normal. BoA (also under Lee Soo-man) debuted at 13 in 2000; many others (Taemin, Krystal, HyunA, NewJeans, IVE, BABYMONSTER members) debuted in the early-to-mid teens. Midriff and short outfits were common in the Y2K era the OP cites. Treating this as a shocking break invents novelty.- **Selective focus**: Intense outrage over A2O Lite’s 13-year-olds often ignores comparable or more explicit Gen Alpha TikTok content, or earlier groups with similar styling.- **Rapid amplification**: Social media quickly turned specific looks and ages into calls to stop the group or ban the practice. Later shows used longer pants; the core issue remained styling choices, not an unprecedented emergency.The “moral panic” label argues the intensity, language, and selective focus exceed what the outfits and ages justify given history and context. Whether that holds depends on weighing past industry norms against current standards for protecting minors.
>>131974024Those virtue signaling moral panic NPCs live in a dark narrow world. And they're hypocrites. https://youtube.com/shorts/k1jZcfoCdwM?si=voVLjWGAznd7a1AL
>>131978570i love katseye so much
>>131978758They have a niche
They gave da stank butt
