Why are millennials so insistent that they are one of the most important bands of the 21st century? They're just okay.
no one thinks that about these faggots, they influenced no one and have had zero lasting cultural impact, literally forgotten indie landfill
>>131959622I wouldn't exactly call them important, but I do know there isn't a single zoomer band that comes close to Animal Collective in terms of originality.
>>131959622>>131959641Get the FUCK off my board right fucking NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Centipede Hz [Domino, 2012]All too theoretically fun-loving communards nice up the hilarity, whereupon their base tells them to stop being such goofs already ("Moonjock," "Applesauce") ***
>>131959622cuz...it...gets you laid
Zoomers are doing that thing too; it's a way of trying to shortcut rivalling Xers in having fame, recognition and relevance; it's like making a propaganda that you car is the fastest on Earth so that people maybe think about your car as reaching 120 mph instead of 100 mph, or instead when buying something saying that you're thinking about paying $200 so that in relation to the $250 for what the seller is asking you two end up closing the deal in $225 and "let's hear no more about it". It's bargaining fame, essentially.
>>131959647who is King Gizzardwho is Magdalena Baywho is Atarashi Gako
>>131960778Gizz is millennials
>>131960778>who is King Gizzard>who is Magdalena BayWhat makes those zoomer bands? The members of those bands are millennials. And even if the argument was that they were only active recently, I think their fanbase is mostly millennials, and King Gizzard has been at the peak of their popularity in the 2010s, which was still a millennial musical decade. Magdalena Bay probably has a bigger genz following though.
>>131959622>They're just okayThey had great potential.But they weren't very disciplined.So their songs were never fully developed.Disciplined songwriters get a song to where it is good, then great, then they push even further -- and that's how the timeless classics happen.But these guys stopped at good enough, unfortunately for us.
>>131959622only hipster and hipster-adjacent millennials know animal collective
>>131959622mm if you're actually curious I can try to explain, I'm a millennial and was a huge fanboy of these guys from 05-10. I think for a lot of us it was baby's first experimental music, in a similar way to how radiohead was hitting people a few years earlier. I think during the moment when you're in your mid teens and start having your musical awakening, you become receptive to a lot of stuff that's maybe just beyond comprehension or your own taste, like you're used to experiencing new things you don't quite understand yet, and that feeling becomes compelling. If you were having that awakening during the mid 00s and getting it through the whole indie thing happening at the time, anco just really hit all the marks. It's got the essence of the 00s indie shit, it's great to get high to, and they just leaned in really hard to using weird sounds as compositional elements, they maxed that shit out. Anco was all about finding secret layers, like every time you'd listen to Feels you'd end up hearing some new shit deep in the mix that completely changed your perception of the song as a whole. It also opened up a bunch of doors into some more truly experimental stuff, like they were the gateway drug to noise and glitchy shit for a lot of us. Plus the way they'd work their songs out live for like 2-3 years before putting out the studio versions, plus how every album felt like they reinvented themselves while maintaining their core 'sound', it became a super fun thing to follow. Idk man, it was just really fun stuff that felt genuine, both playful and heartfelt at the same time, super inspired and filled to the brim with creativity and fun ideas. Legendary run, but it's not surprising to me that it's lost on a lot of younger people, it was kind of a perfect storm given the landscape at the time
>>131959622To be fair, Radiohead also influenced no one and they are always on all time greats lists and rankings.
>>131961584>>131959641
>>131959641This. Most millenials don't even know who they are. The only people who listen to that trash are faggot hipsters.
>>131959622"Millennials"? It's rather a very small contingent of wannabe hipsters screeching into a void about them and NMH. They don't have really any musical relevance amongst the majority of the generation.
>>131960778>Magdalena BayMica is a late millennial; class of 2014
>>131960866>hipsterthose who used sites other than /mu/>hipster-adjacentthose who used /mu/
>>131960989>it's great to get high to,so "music" only drug addicts liketale as old as time, from psychedelia to prog rock to "experimental indie"
>>131960778>King GizzardMillennials>Magdalena Bay95 borderlines. Likely Millennials>Atarashi Gakoyes>>131959647not a band but Stomach Book. Maybe.
>>131964361some music sounds good when you're exercising, some sounds good when you're falling asleep, some sounds good in the winter. The atmosphere and/or mind state you're in when approaching art has an effect on how you perceive it, and assistance from those outside factors doesn't de-value the art, it only enhances.The tale as old as time tells you that weed can make music sound better. Nobody's pressuring you to participate, but you don't know more than what the history is telling you
>>131959622because they're cool and original and they don't give a heck what the plebeians think
Was very surprised they seem rather forgotten today. I guess they're a bit weird to show up in algorithm playlists.
>>131964805the history tells me most praiseworthy people weren't potheads
>>131965341their modern reputation essentially rests upon the back of "My Girls"
>>131965680What does being praiseworthy have to do with anything. Most good musicians are bad people, always have been, always will be.
>>131959622It's from this weird era where hipster became the latest fad and they would go around praising whatever p4k was praising while acting like they personally just discovered the next best thing in music. Imo p4k was probably getting paid on the dl to promote certain bands because most of the shit they praise is absolutely terrible. Hipster types are a small subset of millennials though. They're probably too invested at this point and it would be too big of a hit to their ego to admit stuff like animal collective is actually dogshit.
>>131965680sounds to me like you just have a bias. You mentioned psychedelic, prog rock, and experimental indie but surely you know how prevalent drug use is across /most/ music genres>>131965692honestly think this is a big part of the problem with how they're interpreted by younger people. MPP hit crazy at the time because of how much of a shift in sound it was for them but they actually pulled it off gracefully. Nearly every album was a shift in sound but the MPP shift was bigger and somehow venn diagrammed the masses in with the experimental dorks. People get recc'd MPP to start or they just go to spotify and play the top few tracks and feel like they've got the vibe, but really they should start with Sung Tongs and move forward like everybody else did
for me, it's sleep cycle
>>131959622But they aren’t even that popular with millennials. Most of their stuff besides MPP is pretty inaccessible
John Cale, Vashti Bunyan, The Grateful Dead, and Björk all signed off on them being quality musicians.
>>131966335>John Cale, Vashti Bunyan, The Grateful Dead, and Björk>trashchecks out
>>131966023Those retards actually pay for a p4k subscription now to see scores so they can stay on top of what they're supposed to like. It's actually kinda funny.
>>131960778>King GizzardThee Oh Sees derivatives>MagBayGrimes clears>Atarashi Gakomeme
These guys are finished for me, not only are they CLEARLY using AI for their concert visuals, they are also LYING by denying it.
>>131964361Fucking retard. 1960s jazz musicians were taking LSD and smoking weed while writing some of the most timeless compositions of all time. Its not the only way to write or enjoy listening to music, but you're just being a contrarian faggot purely for the sake of being a contrarian faggot and not admitting it
I was heavily into AnCo from 2011-2016 during my late teens and early 20s. It was honestly just the right time and place. Indie was at its peak in that general span of years. I was being a psychedelic goofball. If you were in your early 20s or attending college during the early 2010s, you know how fucking awesome life was at that time. Great economy, leftist woke dogshit had not yet really overtaken the cultural zeitgeist, and people were able to just explore and be hedonists. Their music has that exploratory, experimental format to it, so it just fit really well for a time when the overall culture of cities wasn't so depressing. Music seems to have been heading more toward a revival of heavier, rock-oriented flavors in the last 5 years or so, so the whole indie psychedelic shit isn't really that hot anymore.
>>131967700jazz is a genre of noise "music" people pretend to like to look sophisticatedthanks for informing me it fits the pattern of druggie tunes
>>131968068List some genres of music that are uber based since you seem to "have it all figured out"
>>131968098what Emilie Autumn and old Vampire Weekend made, for example:https://youtu.be/fjQJVnPdlcchttps://youtu.be/oNy6F-VIsoswhat Grimes and Magdalena Bay managed to erect:https://youtu.be/WizNXQGBMEkhttps://youtu.be/ben9qDbrLYUwhat Panic! At The Disco used to make:https://youtu.be/QSLBRvv0_0whttps://youtu.be/evUC3RCy2UYand Mindless Self Indulgence:https://youtu.be/BjCjqgg0dXAhttps://youtu.be/c2qS7y9tiSAI could go on; not hard to sound magnitudes better than free form jazz; simply try to have a euphonic melody, and you're 9/10's the way there
>>131959702I get 0 laid, but My Girls is a sweet fucken tune
>>131959641Every lastfm profile had this band in the top 8 artist in the late 00s/early 10s. Merriweather, Feels, Strawberry Jam, and Spirit were constantly posted here in 2012 times. But yes they've fallen off and I'm glad because I always hated this fucking band. Don't know who fell off more, if AnCo or Arcade Fire desu
>>131964334What year? That's the zoomer cutoff. Anyway most Magdalena Bay fans are zoomers imo
>>131964805If your music only sounds good when doing a certain activity your music is no good
>>131966023>p4k was probably getting paid on the dl to promote certain bandsThis is correct and it helps explain why all this shit is forgotten
>>131972025Why do you think this? Nothing sounds good in all scenarios
>>131967801>HedonismSome older zoomers don't like it because their experience with hedonism was getting shoved rappers 24/7. See now how younger zooms are embracing indie sleaze
>>131968268All the music you listed is fucking awful
>>131959622Well Fugazi was the most important band of the 90’s and they handed the torch off to AnCo so it’s pretty obvious.
>>131972061if that's all you have to say, then whatever you say
>>131972033payolafork
>>131972014it's not year-based; it's the last 1/3 of 1996
>>131974212>payolaforkkek
>>131959654get raped by niggers you worthless scum okay im sorry that was uncalled for
>>131959622They fucking suck
>>131975177If you’re a pleb sure
>>131975450>If you’re not a p4k drone you're a pleb
>>131975549No if you have bad taste then you’re a pleb, only patricians with good taste like AnCo.
>>131975558Does this actually work on people?
>>131975787No, the truth rarely gets through to lots of people.
>>131975787Yes the difference between plebs and patricians goes back thousands of years
>>131967399#CancelAbby2026
>>131975991>>131976013If you have to try and bully people to get them to like what you like, it's a good sign what you like is actually just trash.
>>131976884I’m not trying to get him to like what I like, I’m just letting him know he’s a pleb for not getting AnCo and dismissing it as simply “p4kcore” nobody on this board ever has a good explanation for why they think AnCo from 2000-2010 is bad outside of name calling and buzzwords. If you don’t like AnCo then explain why without sounding like a retard.
>>131976993I saw that video of them screeching and playing their guitars bad. So I assumed it was all like that
>>131977073You can’t appreciate that without hearing the much more refined studio version of Sung Tongs first, if someone went to an AnCo show in 2003 and thought it was terrible I’d understand where they’re coming from because that shit was wild. Hearing them refine their crazy live sound down throughout the years is what makes their legacy endearing and when you listen to albums like Feels and SJ and then go backwards you have a better ear for it. If you aren’t just memeing and have an actual interest then listen to the studio version of Sung Tongs all the way through.
>>131977073>I saw that video of them screeching and playing their guitars bad. So I assumed it was all like thatkek
>>131977168LMAO
>>131967399Terrible. What a bunch of phony fags.
>>131977168Lmfao. Well done
>>131977168The funny thing about this is that he has no Indian heritage at all
Went to the feels anniversary last night, it was seriously one of the best experiences I've ever had had a concert. They fucking tore it the fuck up. Daffy Duck and Loch Raven stand out as the best tracks of the night.
>>131959622I never was truly into themt. 44 years old.
>>131981408I’m jelly>>131981699What albums did you listen to?
>>131976993>nobody on this board ever has a good explanation for why they think AnCo from 2000-2010 is badBrother MPP got posted every fucking second here in the tens and the fans constantly acted like it was the greatest album of all time you lot were annoying af
>>131982866Everyone acted like it was a masterpiece because it is a masterpiece, and none of that is an explanation for why you think it’s bad.>this amazing album was spammed on /mu/ for years so it’s badYeah that’s how a pleb would think. Actually now that you point it out, you can chart a total decline in the quality and activity of /mu/ that follows the cooling off of AnCo posting here.
>>131959641fpbp
>>131983107This kind of self important delusion is exactly what turned many away from anco. You all still have it now even with your band virtually forgotten even in indie circles it's crazy
>>131983320Explain how I’m wrong then, MPP is in the sticky so no matter what you can never escape it on /mu/ you see it every time you come to the board and you haven’t given an actual reason for why you think it’s bad.
>>1319833493 good songs only
>animal collective i good>NO animal collective is badwill they ever reach a conclusion?
>>131983814Let’s seeIn the FlowersMy GirlsSummertime ClothesDaily RoutineLion in a ComaNo More RunningBrother SportSo that’s 7 fantastic songs and all of the other songs are good, so I’m not really sure where you’re getting 3 from.>>131984253The consensus is they are fantastic, but released a couple stinkers later in their career, but over the past few years showed they can still make good music.
>>131984773>The consensus is they are fantasticLol you're such a delusional retard
>>131976884You mean like what you're doing now?
>>131986454>no responseok so you’re just a spammer dedicated to making the board worse and not promoting discourse are you the janitor by chance?
>>131987726Yeah he’s a loser
bump
>>131969612apply the music to your social life
>>131959622They have a small cult following among hipster scenesters. Everyone else either doesn't know who they are or correctly assesses them as unlistenable dogshit. Idk who's worse though, Tool fans or AnCo fans... I'm thinking AnCo fans.
>>131984773None of this shit is good. Go back to rddit and/or kill yourself.
>>131993461at least Tool is actually a good band
>>131993540>>131993547>AnCo hater is a fucking TOOLfagholy kek I had my TOOL phase too when I was 15 you have to be 18 to post here you little bitch
One of the only correct takes zoomers have on millennial music is that animal collective is fucking cheeks
>>131994804Zoomers love AnCo.
>>131994804AnCo definitely makes the cheeks clap
"Hipster" is a term co-opted for use as a meaningless pejorative in order to vaguely call someone else's authenticity into question and, by extension, claim authenticity for yourself.It serves no conversational function and imparts no information, save for indicating the opinions and preferences of the speaker.Meanwhile, a market myth has sprung up around the term, as well as a cultural bogeyman consisting of elusive white 20-somethings who wear certain clothes (but no one will agree on what), listen to certain music (no one can agree on this either), and act a certain way (you've probably sensed the pattern on your own).Suffice it to say, no one self-identifies as a hipster; the term is always applied to an Other, to separate the authentic Us from the inauthentic, "ironic" Them.tl;dr: if you believe hipsters exist, you are a plebeian.
>>131959641/thread
>>131967801>early 2010s, you know how fucking awesome life was at that time. Great economywe were still in the middle of the 2008 housing crash>animal collective fans are all brain-dead retards who are disconnected from basic reality checks out
>>131995524>we were still in the middle of the 2008 housing crash>we
>>131995524I bought a townhouse in foreclosure for basically nothing thanks to that crash.
>>131959647Zoomers don’t play guitar or any instruments and they don’t play shows. It’s kind of sad actually
>>131995434Lmao. Hipster detected. Only hipsters get ass blasted like this over the term.
>>131996714MJK is a hipster
>it's another episode of zoomers can't understand sincerity or joy
>>131964529I love stomach book
animal collective is one of the most important bands of the 21st century
>>132000031This is correct. They're very important to gay retards and there are tons of gay retards in the 21st century.
>>131959641Trvke
>>131959647That doesn't mean anything. Originality, innovation, look at where we're at now, and on top of that AC is mostly unlistenable no matter how many releases they put together.
>>131984773>stinkersI love Centipede HZ and Isn't it Now?. I did not like Painting With when it first came out but it has grown on me. Time Skifs has a couple really good songs, maybe in time I will appreciate the other songs too.
>>132001264>liking Painting WithOpinion discarded.
>>132001264I prefer TS over Now desu
>>132001159You can strain, seeth, cry and shit as much as you want to, but that doesn't make your statement true. Sorry. Being obsessed like this isn't good for your health.
The only guy I knew who listened to this band got married to chick who ended up leaving him for her meth dealer and he shot himself a few years later in a Texas Roadhouse bathroom.
>>131977168Lol, gem
>>132002895At least he was well fed.
>>132002895>Things that never happened
>>132003010kek
