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Second for best 2uo!Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/348665/tarry-not
Are you writing, son?
If we forget all the arguments going back and forth, and just take it so that there's sex imbalance (be it big or small) in Equestrian society, how would (you) make it work socially and culturally?So it doesn't fall into generic harem fantasy of either super dominant male getting ALL the mares or useless manchild with mommy issues gets his fantasy fulfilled.So that majority of the ponies won't be left alone. Would it be sort of herds but with Equestrian twist with mare at the helm of the longhouse, with the husband-stallion somewhere there in-between, with this communal family that consists of romantic and platonic pairs of life partners? Could it be bonded mare and stallion pair with possibility of "donation" to close friends?I really can't imagine anything that doesn't have at least some sort of typical "sexual male fantasy" component somewhere in there.
>>43648635https://www.fimfiction.net/story/201134/dont-open-your-eyes-scoot
>Caballeron is a foalconI read that one. It sucked and was totally out of character. Scootaloo's parents would never care that she was groomed and raped like that.
>>43648708How about Rainbow Dash or Daring Do being foalcons?
>>43648708They would care if they thought Caballeron was providing her a safe and loving environment so that they could rip her away from it.
>>43648714Don't you have a three hour long Steven Universe critique video to make?
>>43648742What are you talking about?
>>43648744You don't know this one? There's a famous (infamous) video that was some Youtube essayist talking about how much Steven Universe sucked and doing all this critique on it. As it turns out she had never watched the show in the first place, just told about it secondhand through her ex-girlfriend, and had also written this story about Rainbow Dash grooming Scootaloo and adopting her to rape her and a bunch of other foalcon stuff.
>>43648652I think having a mare care about you at all is a male fantasy. The only way to get rid of it is to make misery porn, which is really just a different type of fantasy.
>>43648756That's Lily Orchard, and he's a man.
>>43648771I thought they were just ugly
Between Flash, Spike, and Blueblood, who gets self-inserted into the most ythink
>>43648805I always identified as Spike a lot.
>>43648652Got to write a fic about it from both mare and stallion perspectives.
>>43648652Okay. Then write it entirely from the pov of a mare. A lesbian mare.
>>43648631>dragon dick tastes like hot sauceThere does exist an excellent clopfic featuring that concept, though its format is far too refined for this thread:https://ponepaste.org/6308
>>43648864Funny, why is ponepaste asking for a username and password to enter the site now? Did something change?
>>43648864I fucking hate how I knew this would be an Anon x Spike green before even clicking.>>43648882Works on my machine, no login needed.
>>43648891You don't like Anon x Spike stories?
>>43648652Mares getting mares pregnant, obviously.
>>43648902No, I don't go out looking for stories about Spike getting head, actually. Nor ones that feature Anon, the headgiver.
>>43648917I headcanon that there's a bunch of lesbian conception spells that you can just get easily, because as a utopia Equestria has a good healthcare and neonatal care system.
>>43648934>EquestriutopiaOkay, Mr. Gender Euphoria.
>>43648937Trixie said that was impossible.
>>43648924What kind of Spike stories do you like then?
>>43648652The nuclear family wouldn't be normal, the norm would certainly be herds because there's no longer anything clamping relationships to a single pair and ponies congregate by default. I think that, because there would be herds, there wouldn't be a single common structure. Based on the princesses, though, I would expect the groups to tend to revolve around a central mare, not a stallion.I think that the family roles would not be set by gender, but by both gender and the type of mare, and herds would seek a pony to fill that role. For example, a group may prefer structure and favor a mare with an administrative personality, or they may prefer anarchy and collect a group of mares that are individualistic and independently reliable, or a bunch of musicians would form a herd-band, etc. Each group would form accoring to their own preferences, and the ones distant from that shared preference would break off and join another that fits them better.As a practical matter, their sexual relationships with each other wouldn't be decided by a binary straight/lesbian, but on a range of how lesbian they are or could be with each other, and that would make it harder for a mare who is attracted to masculine traits to get the sex she wants. Here, it bears clarifying that it's the male fantasy part of this that extrapolates that into meaning most ponies are dissatisfied and lonely, even desperate. Most mares can simply prefer more mares and then there's nothing bad about the arrangement. It would also mean that they don't have to lower their standards just to get an organic cock.I think you would have more cases where intimacy is further distinguished from sex, and there would be a good number of cuddle piles that wouldn't have a stallion in them. Regardless, being a fit mare that can wield a strap on effectively would be valuable more often than not.In any case, RGRE is a tool for making your story more FiM-like. If the only way you can figure out how to use it to make your story better is to ponify words around the "mare" root, the that's all you can do.
Remember, kids: never listen to a pedophile.
>>43648961This is a good response, I was thinking along the same lines.
>>43648960>fic about Spike and his adoptive sister-mom>fic about Spike and his relationship with Rarity, even if it isn't shipping>fic about Spike being a dragon amongst ponies>fic about Spike and his DnD brosThis, I like.
>>43648960Spike being posessed by a BASED HiE human bro who takes all the hot chicks for himself
>>43649027>not coaching lil bro into a proper ladies' manI suppose TFfaggots never really had any male rolemodels in their life.
>>43649063Possession is not TF though
>>43649018So you're into... slice of life. That's it? No NSFW?
What do you do to get motivated to write?
>>43649098I leave myself a scene I wanted to write unwritten from the last time I wrote
>>43648960Just passed the part in the Alicorn Adventure series where spike kills some storm king yetis for Twilight and she gets upset but he promises he's ride or die with her. Which is his best trait. I like the lore (in this series) where Twilight looks into other universes and one of the only constants is that no matter what, if Twilight is good or evil spike is right there with her
>>43649092>No NSFW?Now you're getting it. But I would not be opposed to a [Sad] or [Horror] or [Adventure] with a good Spike.
>>43649263Do you have a dragon OC by any chance?
>>43649271No.
>>43649435Do you want to?
>>43649092Bro took the clean pill
>>43649513Idea: story about a dragon that steals precious item from ponies but he makes a game out of it to challenge himself.
>>43648960Ones where he dies painfully.
>>43649617Don't be like this.
You guya reading the new Cozy stories from the contest?
>>43649722This mare likes to be stoned.
>>43649722Cozy who?
>>43649730inshallah and such or whatever the sandnigger says
>>43649513Are you trying to make a sale?
>>43648960Cute wholesome mom Twi stories.
>>43649722I read most of them. I can't say they are very good. Then again, I prefer stories where Golly gets a wholesome happy ending, which seems to not be the norm for the contest.
Damn, the screenshots in /chag/ seem better than anything I can write...
>>43648652>how would (you) make it work socially and culturally?What we see in the show is>mostly monogamy in relationships>mostly mares>mostly ponies that don't seem to be marriedObviously there's a bias towards more marriages on screen in side characters because a significant portion of them are the main character's parents.So what I would do is say: the majority of ponies are mares, and the majority of mares do not get married. Probably almost every stallion does, eventually, and there might be cultural pressure here. But the median mare is a borderline otaku powered by a cutie mark and colorful horse fixations, so the ponies that have children have a lot - possibly over a long time, since ponies aren't on the same strict biological clock as humans/earth mammals.Some implications>farm ponies mostly have a son and daughter that stay on the land/marry into other farms, and the rest of the daughters go into the city and the like. Ponies like Apple Bloom and Maud who leave home and become more embroiled in culture are the rule rather than the exception - and this is the same reason why filly AJ was given the chance to be a city pony and had to choose to go back to the farm.>married couples tend to retire pretty young, like we see with Posey shy (Twilight's parents might be idle rich from the start(?)). Equestria is generally very low cost of living compared to the productivity of ponies, even in desolate conditions with no skilled workers like Our Town, so while they might be living on savings there's also a good chance they're being supported by their adult daughters as soon as they're working because a pony like Fluttershy on has a limited amount of use for money.There could even be an expectation, for example, that Flurry Heart is going to be the future princess of the Crystal Empire because culturally the expectation is that Cadance is going to retire and just get to enjoy her marriage in peace one she's old enough to take the reins. I think this dovetails very nicely in with a society which triumphs love as one of the highest virtues - most ponies don't find love, but the ones that do are precious and should be encouraged and protected.
>>43649769doesn't adoption anon do those
>>43649821Who?
>>43649797If that's the case, you need to practice more.
>>43649822fae, the guy here who does all the adoption/baby fics.
Any good ponies on earth stories? Any that are still being updated or been written in the past few years?
>>43649959>Still being updatedUh.. no.
>>43649959Currently writing one actually! Might ask for feedback from this thread, if that's something you guys are willing to do
>>43649830I never really did a Twilight & Spike one minus some bits in the Nyx one.I wanna do one where he sees her as a sister and she sees him as a son and there's drama from the disconnect, but I've no idea where to take that outside of the premise.
>>43650025It's shit.
>>43650025Remember that the supreme court wouldn't be the one to grant the pony human rights.
>>43650025It's peak.
>>43650044>I've no idea where to take thatThe orphanage, and have someone else adopt Spike.In fact, I think there's already a fic about a dragoness adopting Spike.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/314797/small-scaleI remember it being good...
>>43649805>Flurry Heart is going to be the future princess of the Crystal Empire because culturally the expectationBut if having an alicorn progeny is mystical or unsure as it was established, what if Flurry in turn has no alicorn to give the power to? Is she to remarry mortal after mortal and having offspring until she can retire? Or is she going to sing a friendship song and give yet another pair to a mortal to leave and waste her savings on expensive cruises on grand Bahamare archipelago?But jokes aside, you missed one element here. There seems to be plenty of mare-foal pairings shown in the series. One implication is that they're just wife and child going to the town while husband is doing something else, but we can't be sure. Another implication is that they're single parents, with whatever arrangement there might be, and due to the few number of stallions, I don't think it's divorce.Another big question you stepped over is that if only married monogamous pairs reproduce, depending on amount of stallions, the brood of foals one mare need to birth is huge to maintain the population level. How do you reckon that works?(pic tangentially related)
>>43650367Why are they all the same age?
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/502251/daring-duo6/10. Daring and Caballeron team up to escape a death trap and beat the villain. This one was fine. Nothing to particularly write home about. Definitely had a post-canon air to it, which isn't really a good thing given how shit Daring Doubt was.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/510538/i-lied5.7/10. Ahuizotl decides Daring Doubt was a shit episode and ignores it. A classic fix fic to a really shit episode. Seems like most Daring fic authors just ignore Daring Doubt completely rather than even bothering trying to fix it. This one had a slight amateurish feel to it, but the bigger problem were the weird plot holes. Most notable being the iron chains that melt in the sun and allow Daring's escape. How many BTUs was Celestia pumping out that day?>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/506926/defeated3.7/10. Daring has writer's block and has become a sloven fatass as a result. I don't think I've ever read a more "the author is just wearing the character's skin" fic in my life. This Daring bears almost no resemblance to any version of her--canon or otherwise--I've encountered. It really just feels like Skirts ranting about all the unfinished fics he's written and how they've beaten him. Given he stopped logging in two years later, it seems he really was defeated.>>43648121Why do that when you can have a four thread long debate over why the Ponyville Clocktower had eight hours on it. Not even DOWAS metric time can solve that riddle.>>43648176>out of universe explanationI still love the post-S2 headcanon of "they were all actually changelings that were infiltrating Equestria". If only they'd actually stopped doing it after S2.>>43648648Still chipping away at the Daring horror oneshot. Derpibooru lacks any good dark magic book art, so it's off to the Inkscape mines yet again to throw something together.>>43648708Kek. I forgot about the multi-chapter where Daring dies in a sand trap saving Dash. No, the OP's referencing the schizofic oneshot.
>>43650377You can't tell pony's age by just looking at them!
>>43650367>Another big question you stepped over is that if only married monogamous pairs reproduce, depending on amount of stallions, the brood of foals one mare need to birth is huge to maintain the population level. How do you reckon that works?Yeah!https://derpibooru.org/tags/comic-colon-yeaahttps://derpibooru.org/images/2868043https://derpibooru.org/images/2868047https://derpibooru.org/images/2868049https://derpibooru.org/images/2868050https://derpibooru.org/images/2868054
>>43650367>But if having an alicorn progeny is mystical or unsure as it was established, what if Flurry in turn has no alicorn to give the power to?I'm saying that Cadance having a child/husband makes her the exception and Celestia/Luna and Twilight/Flurry being single forever is the cultural norm. Essentially, Cadance can't hold the job because she's married. This plays into the essential RGR of the setting if you want to introduce those elements. IRL the 'glass ceiling' is essentially the fear that a critical employee will retire into marriage/pregnancy, so you'd be better off training a man who will stay in the company and promoting him. In this Equestria, that would be anypony that gets married, with the gendered element just being that pretty much every stallion is expected to get married while it's the minority of mares. So something like>not every lovestuck pony is a stallion infact less than half are, but ~every stallion is expected to find loveand fittingly the Princess of Love is the only Princess that gets married.>But jokes aside, you missed one element here. There seems to be plenty of mare-foal pairings shown in the series. One implication is that they're just wife and child going to the town while husband is doing something else, but we can't be sure. Another implication is that they're single parents, with whatever arrangement there might be, and due to the few number of stallions, I don't think it's divorce.That's true. The thing is that we don't see larger family units and if it was multiple marriage we'd still expect to see the husband there and more actual groupings, but we neither see multiple marriage nor do we see the husband there, obviously, in those outings where the husband isn't there. I'd lean towards the first implication as the easiest answer here. The stallion is usually the primary caretaker, so on days where he isn't available the mare takes the foal out with her and does something. This could also go together with stallions being homemakers if you want, and the reason the foal is out of the house is that e.g. construction is going on that the stallion is involved with.>Another big question you stepped over is that if only married monogamous pairs reproduce, depending on amount of stallions, the brood of foals one mare need to birth is huge to maintain the population level. How do you reckon that works?I addressed that directly. Ponies don't operate on any kind of fixed timeframes. They can just have another 'generation' of foals out of the same marriage after the first set have grown up if there hasn't been a stallion yet. The showrunners certainly considered the possibility of litters but I don't think we really see evidence of a mare with an enormous number of fillies at once, at least not as a standard fixture, so I think they'd still be raising fairly normal (by human standards) numbers of fillies at a time.
>>43650406>derpibooru
>>43650384The truth is Mayor Mare cut corners with the budget and outsourced the clock tower to a Griffonstone contractor, pocketing the difference.
>>43650408>The stallion is usually the primary caretakerI fail to see the logic here, since mare is the one who births the foal and per "run of the mill standard mammalian reproduction" also nurses it. The mare-foal bond is strong, and all of a sudden stallion just takes over. Despite this we virtually see no stallion-foal pairs in the series?Pony ageing is also bit hazy and all over the place in the series. Ponyville and Granny Smith's age and all that. But if we go by that somewhat accepted concept of horse reproductive window adjusted to human age, pony mares would have mostly fertile and safe reproductive window into their early 50's. It's plausible to wait for 4 to 5 years or even longer between the foals, if for example we go by ratio or 1:3 where basically only 25% of the mares do the reproduction. Given that many families seems to have 1 or 2 foals, many families need to produce more to keep the population stable and we have no idea about the distribution of those families. M6 families average to 2.33 foals per family, when the average needs to be 4 foals per family. If those family sizes are very common as it seems, there needs to be very large families to keep up the population.
>>43650486You're leaning very heavily on things which aren't part of the show at all. Like I'm sorry but>run of the mill standard mammalian reproductionHeadcanon. Also you're assigning meaning to nursing (also headcanon) that isn't necessarily that (i.e. is headcanon).>But if we go by that somewhat accepted concept of horse reproductive window adjusted to human ageNot only headcanon but directly contradicting what we see in the show, alike to "acktually there are as many stallions as there are mares even though we don't see any of them" nonsense.None of these are valid concerns if what you care about is fidelity to the show/canon.
>that isn't necessarily thatthat isn't necessarily there*
>>43650494> Ponies don't operate on any kind of fixed timeframes.And this is not a headcanon?
>>43650500Correct.We see no statements suggesting that they do. If you want to assert a positive, you need to find direct evidence from the text. We also have counter examples like Sunset and various Pinkie scenes.
>>43650516>We see no statements suggesting that they do.Like your statement about stallion being the primary caretaker?
>>43650530Correct, that's part of the AU/headcanon/fictitious world for a hypothetical RGR scenario following canon. Anon, are you even following the conversation? The prompt was >>43648652>If we forget all the arguments going back and forth, and just take it so that there's sex imbalance (be it big or small) in Equestrian society, how would (you) make it work socially and culturally?This is a proposal for a gender-ratio-inequality scenario.
>>43650541>are you even following the conversation?I don't know, are you since you were the one who started blaming me for headcanoning shit up, while similarly coming up with stuff to make the prompt work.
>>43650561Are you retarded?Headcanon isn't true but if it doesn't conflict with canon it can be.Ponies CAN have earthlike aging for the most part but you have to explain certain exceptions (usually by chalking it up to magic).Ponies CAN have most of the married stallions as primary caretakers. The only glaring exception to this that comes to mind is Diamond Tiara's family, though I'm sure I'm missing some. It's certainly not enough to disrupt it being a plausible cultural trend though.If I write a story where Twilight has jam sandwiches for breakfast, that doesn't violate canon nor does it make it true in canon for all stories. Different stories will have different answers. Nor does having Twilight have jam sandwiches mean that she always or even often has jam sandwiches in that story, unless you say she does. What would violate canon is saying that Twilight ALWAYS has jam sandwiches for breakfast, since we see her eating other things for breakfast, unless we introduce it as an element which is new in-universe.You can't pick apart a story premise for not following your headcanon when it follows actual canon, anon.
>>43650585>I don't have to prove my retarded headcanon is true, you have to prove it's falsewheeled goalposts are such a delight, aren't they?
>>43650637I genuinely can't tell if you're trolling or actually retarded
>>43650025One I was really looking forward to was Summer of '11, but it hasn't gotten an update in 4 years. I loved the characterization of the ponies and the nostalgia factor. Moviemaster8510 is a good writer and an oldfag, too bad he hasn't been online in a year. If you're doing something like that that'd be awesome.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/504149/summer-of-11
>>43648652Spare mares go in the meat grinder.
>>43648864I see you've retreated to a writing format that's more your speed.
>>43648961>you should take the show as gospel to justify gender ratios>you should pretend the show doesn't exist to justify polygamy
>>43651183yes, both of these are necessary for ultimate sex-fantasy equestria.
>>43650640NTA, toss yourself out the tallest window you can find and do a flip on the way down. Thanks for keeping the reputation of flagfags ITT in the dirt at least.
>>43651183The point is hating the logos
Wow. The Only Mark That Matters updated. I thought it was dead.
>>43651197He's right though?
Why is writing a single sentence for a story more difficult then writing a three paragraph comment in a random thread?
>>43651454I hate bringing it up but the best parts of Homestuck were Andrew Hussie just lifting conversations he had with his friends wholesale and changing the names. Sometimes it's easier to talk with people than talk to yourself.
>>43650408>IRL the 'glass ceiling' is essentially the fear that a critical employee will retire into marriage/pregnancyThere's unfortunately nothing so simple as that. Decades of research on sex inequities have found multiple contributing factors in addition to the one you mentioned: the belief that men are more competent and more intelligent; the perception that women are too emotional; the assumption that women are better suited to nurturing roles like mother or caretaker; and even women's own pessimism about their chances of being promoted.
>>43651463Your post features a conspicuous lack of counterarguments to the manifold salient points raised.
>>43651197I am very glad I was too busy to get involved in the conversation at all because stubbornness would leave me arguing for hours arguing someone not worth a third reply.
Behead all flagfaggots.
>>43651462God damn I need to fucking read that.
>>43651476Oh, I’m not part of that conversation. I haven’t participated in it before and I don’t really want to start now. I just had one small thing to say—which was about human behavior, not equines—and I’m not going to get involved any deeper.
Rolled 41 (1d100)>>43651463>the belief that men are more competent and more intelligent;In the jungle? Yes.
>>43651701You really do not need to and should not.
>>43651817>3 off
>>43651821We keep having this conversation and nobody heeds the warnings.
>>43651231No, he’s been consistently but slowly updating. I suspect he started on this arc but quickly got dissatisfied with it, and that made him lose motivation and slow down. I think this arc has been weaker than average. This chapter ends it, so I hope he speeds back up.
>>43651868What's your prediction for when and where the fic ends?
>>43651882He’s made it to the start of S8, and he needs a few more arcs to finish the rest of the series, so that gives him time. I think his big problem right now is delivering on Radish Root’s cutie mark. I don’t think he’ll really do this, but I’m hoping that Radish marries Light Fantastic during the next arc but she dies during the S8 finale. Then he grieves through most of S9 but gets together with Celestia during the S9 finale. And that’s about where I hope he ends it. Maybe there’s a wedding scene, they finally go into her bedroom, and it ends with a fade to black. If he doesn’t end it with them getting together, I’m going to be disappointed. And if he doesn’t end it when the series ends or soon after, it’s going to turn into aimless slice-of-life, and that’s going to be a different kind of disappointment.
>>43651882My prediction is it never gets finished like most hie fics that get slowly get updated less frequently over time.
>>43652039I agree on all points but I want the cutie mark to be some smart reveal that we could have worked out earlier on. I don't want Radish's talent to be literally fucking Celestia.
>>43652072It's not hie
>#human words:>100000 status:complete wilson:>90I decided to count how many fics matches this and the count came out to 246, which is less than the amount of futa fics on the site, which is 1,727.
>>43652073That would be clever, but I don’t think it’s possible at this point. Too many ponies have looked at that cutie mark and said, “Yep, that’s him fucking Celestia.” The idea that literally every pony that has ever looked at his cutie mark has been totally wrong would be a betrayal of the fic’s premise.
>>43652039I don't want him to get with Celestia.
>>43652153The only exception I can think of is the guy pointing out that it's maybe a special talent for anal sex.It's clearly Radish covering Celestia's back, as any guard should.
>>43652153And nobody has pointed out that the cutie mark isn't literally a prophecy/destiny but just something the foal likes?
>>43652090You added some completely arbitrary additional restrictions. If you search>futanari words:>100000 status:complete wilson:>90there’s nothing. If you take out the word count restriction, you still only get 57.
I have masters degree in statistics and never learned the Wilson score.
>>43652157Why not?>>43652162They have. But there was an arc for the S5 finale which hinted that there was cosmic significance to Celestia and Radish getting together in some fashion.
>>43652175I meant all futa fics
>>43652189Fuck. I forgot about that.
>>43652181You’re going to be so disappointed:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_proportion_confidence_interval#Wilson_score_interval
>>43648652I just wouldn't engage in the gender imbalance and say the ratio is 50/50 regardless of the "evidence" we see in the show. The truth is that background ponies often only consisted of mares in the early seasons because the show was meant for little girls.
>>43652199And how was that molested into the fimfic search engine?
>>43652214By being easy. It's basically the default for all sites that give an option to rank by votes.
>>43652243Examples
>>43652283Derpibooru, probably all boorus. e621 might, I didn't look very hard.Reddit "best" used to use it.
>>43652214Because some random blogger once recommended it. I ranted about this in a blog post, starting about halfway through:https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1145725/fimfiction-voting-patterns-xii-loss-functions-and-decision-theory-a-long-awaited-soapbox
Wanted to write 1000 words a day for a 5K+ story this week. Ended up manging only a couple hundred words in half-hour-ish sessions during the week, then today finally forced myself to get out of my house and knocked out the rest of the story in a face in around 2 hours-ish but could really feel myself burning out by the end of it. 2809 words total but going to try to edit and bulk it out a bit to be 3K+ before posting. I think that's enough for a clopfic that's basically a one note joke. At least I got something done this week. I'm realizing since jumping in last thread this thread has much higher standards than the kind of thing I'm writing. Really appreciate all the comments and advice though!
>>43652397>bulk it outEither add good content or don't add anything at all. Adding "bulk" just makes your story worse. Most stories need to be cut if anything.
>>43652472I feel like my descriptions are too short and bad though. I was writing without wifi so I couldn't do any of my usual thesaurus look ups or referencing other clopfics for inspiration. How can you tell when a description is too long or too short?One anon mentioned last thread using two different senses was a good standard. For big climatic moments like actual climaxes in a clopfic I feel like there ought to be more though.
>>43652519No, for a clopfic, the actual climax is often short and doesn't benefit from being overdescribed. Down that road lies hyper and other unsatisfying things. The buildup is usually the most important, and if you can't improve it more, you can work on the part after.
>>43652554I don’t think I have ever read a clop fic where the writing of the sex was actually good and not uncomfortable to read at least somewhat.
>>43652519I've never tried writing clop, but I write other things and occasionally read clop. As a reader, I want to be turned on. It helps to get descriptions of things, but I'd rather hear about how turned on somepony is. A description on its own is bland and even kinda dull:>Big Mac had a big dick.As it is, it's too simple. It gives me the start of an image, but it doesn't get to the sexy part. It could even be part of something non-sexy:>The urologist said, "So how often did you say you get a burning sensation?"For clop, you need to direct the reader's thoughts toward sexy thoughts. For example, describe a character having sexy thoughts themselves:>Cheerilee looked at Big Mac with wonder. She had expected his dick to be big, but not like this. This was enormous. It was exciting and intimidating at the same time. She wanted it to thrust deep inside her, to stretch her out, to make her cry out from sheer intensity of pleasure.If you feel like your descriptions are too short, then you need to dwell more on details. Details about what characters are experiencing, feeling, and thinking, details about the setting, that sort of thing. Most of the time, any detail that isn't repetitive is good.
>>43652554
Do you have any fics where sunset shimmer meets her parallel doppleganger? I think that'd be fun.
>>43652968Yes but it's written by superpinkbrony, so
>>43653010So it's about diapers. Got it.
>>43653112Even worse, they're babies but he's a diaperfag so he writes the babies like they're diaperfags instead of babies.
Random thought: What if "How to Train Your Dragon" was about Spike learning to be a sub?
>>43653194Why a sub? What kind of sub do you have in mind?
>>43653272You must be at least 18 to use this website.
>>43653272Well, it's obviously not gonna be a dub.
>>43653272Quiznos.
>>43653346Or is it?
>>43653136What's that like?
>>43652968I read one where they were exes. No, it wasn't porn.
>>43653439Diaperfags write young children like they're writing Rugrats porn. Because they have.
>>43653504Okay...What is it? What's the name?
>read tranny suicide fic>Equestria has a 3:1 mare ratio>now even higher because the stallions want to be maresI can't escape RGRE.>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/513257/wrapped-up-wonderbolt4/10. Daring and Dash get caught in a bondage "mummification" fetish temple. The author challenged himself to write an E-rated fetish fic that mimics actual cartoons. I can't say ending the story with Dash trapped as the tightly bondaged immortal slave wife of the autho--I mean Pharaoh with Daring also getting the beginnings of the same "bad ending" is something I would have watched on Cartoon Cartoon Fridays back in the day. It was kind of funny seeing the narrator desperately thrash when Dash is all tied up and at the Pharaoh's mercy. You can tell the author wanted so much more to happen.Plot wise, it's eh. The tone is really odd. The narrator really tries to play off the whole "immortal bondaged slave" thing as no big deal even though it's straight out of a horror fic. and that Daring ending is a classic horror fic "gutpunch" hope spot ending which the narrator really wants you to ignore. All in all, I can't say the author was particularly successful at doing an E fetish fic.As an aside, I've been watching the old Justice League cartoon and Wonder Woman gets mummy bandaged twice by villains in various fight scenes. I wonder how many thousands of bondage fetishes those scenes birthed back in the day? It's actually kind of crazy how close those scenes are to some of the mummy bondage art I've come across. They're almost 1:1. It's eerie.>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/528736/daring-delivery6.3/10. Stumbling back home, wounded after a failed adventure, Daring finds a present on Hearth's Warming. This one was okay. The writing and pacing were fine. The tone started off a little grim, like she might drop dead at any second from her injury, which made the ending shift over to comfy SoL a little strange. I also feel like the ending could have used some juice. Maybe some shipping or something just to get it above the SoL line.>>43652519>actual climaxesIn the Daring pornfics I've read so far, the actual cumming is the least interesting part of the story. All the real action is in the foreplay and build up.>>43653272Chicken Teriyaki or a Kilo-class.
Apparently RGRE is super popular in the Russian fandom which is where all the attention on those fics comes from.
>>43653719Funny since Russia actually does have a very lopsided female:male ratio, especially now that they've been sending all their men off to the meat grinder for a few years.
>all image embeds are broken sitewide
I seem to remember that burger DST works differently, so today's bookclub may be an "hour late" in some parts of the world.I'll post it ~100 minutes from now.
>>43654293>DST worksAn oxymoron.
>>43652554It's literally the climax of the story, and if you can't let the reader dig into it, what are you even doing? So many clop stories are like "and then he came, the end" and it's really unsatisfying. Like, what was all that build up for?
>>43654512Maybe that's the fetish.
The count of holes (and halls and wholes) in UH's fics stays at zero, in>/FSBC/And that's despite us going "deeper" all fic long! I'll repeat my impression from his last fic and say that I think I'm getting inoculated to his weird dyslexia, or that maybe it's not as bad here. Sure, "because it's so knew" and "night car of a train that only has five" still show up, but sort of rarely, I feel. Also, hey, the payoff for reading UH fics is finally there when Satin makes a guest appearance only to go unrecognized by everypony! Plus you get the "silver blood" detail a bit earlier, in addition to the million other things that must come from his other stories that I've yet to read and that went completely over my head. Satin still comes across as sufficiently devil-like even if you don't know her, but it was nice to remember who she is anyway.I'll go out on a limb and say that UH might actually be one of my favorite fic authors. I didn't say it after the Dracula fic, but I'll say it now. The atmosphere is consistently so good; the ponyness of the world (even if subverted—no, especially when confronted or subverted) comes through really well in both the world's atmosphere and the ponies' behavior; the pacing is exactly what it should be (the final walk through the train on Berry's third visit is long, but the writing manages to make it super tense all the way, and when it would start to drag, the Sparkler 'action' scene breaks it up well); the characters are all interesting and feel like they really live in this world and with each other. Really, I have no meaningful criticism of this fic. It's so much easier to fill a post with things to complain about. I don't know if the author is secretly a professional or if he just has an excellent intuition for writing well.I have a criticism of Berry, though. She literally gets to live with this Amy and decided to be a drunk instead? What are you doing, mare! Get your stuff together, for Celestia's sake! She's literally there! Jokes(?) aside, the banter is super nice. Obviously this is a horror fic and the horror atmosphere on the train is the highlight, but I didn't expect how nice the character interactions here would be. I have NO IDEA, like absolutely none at all, why this guy's fics are so criminally underappreciated across the board. Choosing to post more even in spite of that is super respectable.Oh, I know! That one 'feet' sentence, while technically correct, reads really silly. I think I said this in bookclubs for each of UH's fics now, and yeah, I still disagree. Other than that, though, I have nothing to reeeee about. Is this better written than the best horror fics of Grimm or Horse Voice? No, probably not. UH's tone is less overwhelming, less visceral. But I'd have UH with Rambling Writer at a tier just below, but with ponyness making up for the difference and overcoming those 'classics', even. And I like UH's story/character writing even more than Rambling Writer's. This is excellent.
>>43654582[VOTING]Here are some shorter horror fics I scraped from the list. If you have other suggestions, feel free to nominate them. The spoooky week is the perfect time to read a bunch (up to, like, 6) of shorter fics, should you want to do that!https://www.fimfiction.net/story/418430/after-i-looked-up-the-stars-had-gone-awayhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/304458/entry-649 + https://www.fimfiction.net/story/452073/dear-diaryhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/536211/rain-partyhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/509734/written-in-synthetic-bloodhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/453194/trypophobia
>>43654582The real horror is the characters we interacted with along the way>train autism>actual nuclear crystal reactor>there's 3 wild cursed nuclear trains forever chugging along in a circle somewhereKek>friendship avengers, uncle falcon punchretarded>rainbow touches filliesWtf is this world building? Literally every drop of world building is related to either bad education or pedos>"Not right now. Now I'm a mare in the night"Kino typoUhhh, I'm surprised Cherilee never got lost forever by herself. Aside from that this story sucked. If somepony opened their mouth, there was like a 70% chance I was going to hate whatever the fuck came out of it. I guess I maybe liked the first description of Berry walking to the train at night and her checking it out initially, and then maybe also the last 15% of the fic, minus the epilogue. The rest is some sort of shitquestria and the epilogue just made me kek that they never told anyone. >>43654407kek>>43654293since when the fuck does this matter? This is the last week btw lmao, next sunday it ends. But thanks for making me on time to a single club kek
>>43654582>I think I'm getting inoculated to his weird dyslexia, or that maybe it's not as bad here.It definitely wasn't that bad here, I spotted a couple of things, sure, but it wasn't jarring me out of any sort of flow each time>Also, hey, the payoff for reading UH fics is finally there when Satin makes a guest appearancewho?>The atmosphere is consistently so goodprobably the best part of this fic>the ponyness of the world (even if subverted—no, especially when confronted or subverted) comes through really well in both the world's atmosphere and the ponies' behaviorAnd... you lost me>but I didn't expect how nice the character interactions here would be.lmao>this guy's fics are so criminally underappreciated across the boardEven though I don't care for this one I do agree with this
>uncle falconFucking hell I just got that joke.>>43654599Well, it's a Unwhole Hole fic alright. There's a few spelling errors- -I don't think you're supposed to write dashes like this- -but not enough to subtract from the story's overall quality.I liked the story, and other than repeating “it’s good” in different ways, I don’t have much more to say. A mystery train that goes on for longer than it should is a interesting premise, reminding me of classic Twilight Zone episodes. I really liked our three leads in this story, with their banter and different reactions to the developing. It's funny how we ending up reading two horror fics back-to-back featuring Amethyst/Sparkler, with both taking her in a completely different direction. We are truly entering a Sparkler Renaissance. And yes, despite being a horror fic, Unwhole Hole still finds time to sprinkle in good jokes without them killing the mood. Thank you for finding the time to clarify that Snips and Snails are dumb and ugly (poor boys). It's all feels very well balanced, still delivering on the horror while maintain a fine level of pony-ness. Just a solid horror fic overall.
>>43654633>Thank you for finding the time to clarify that Snips and Snails are dumb and ugly (poor boys).fucking kek, I forgot about that and kek @ that image
>>43653411This GET is what all true warriors strive for!
>>43654512I can't disagree with you, but I also feel like you're putting the emphasis in the wrong place. A clopfic with little buildup but a huge climax is no good. It's not going to get anyone off because it doesn't set the mood right. A clopfic with great buildup and a small climax isn't great, but it can work. If the buildup is good enough, the reader will be aroused, and then it might take only a little to push them over the edge. I've blown my load to fics with short climax scenes when they got me in the mood first.Of course, a really good clopfic has both good buildup and a good climax. But if I have to pick just one, I'd pick the buildup.
>>43654599>since when the fuck does this matter?Since Europe already switched and the book club host is operating on EU time.
>>43654582berry punching sparkler in the face made me laugh five seperate times. this fic is missing a [comedy] tag.jokes aside, this was good. i'm not usually big of cosmic horror, i generally prefer it when i can comprehend the thing i should be scared of on at least some level; but this was still good.i liked the more tame happenings of berry's first and second visits to the train, being simple spacial and temporal anomalies; good lighter spooks.once sparkler looks out the window though, the nature of the horror shifts completely. it stops being a story about an impossible space, and starts being a story about unknowable evil entities, and it should go without saying that those two concepts bring with them two very different kinds of horror. like, up until chapter 9, i thought there might be a chance the epilogue chapter would explain that the engine was causing the anomalies and the exact natures and methods of them. it genuinely felt like it was going a way that could end up going there more than it did cosmic horror.it stayed good for the most part though. i didn't really care for anything possessed sparkler had to say. it was all just meaningless gobeldygook you're supposed to find scary because of how meaningless it is. but post-possession sparkler's vagueposting about how dangerous the train was, how they were running out of time, how outside the window was way worse than inside the train, etc. was much more effective at accomplishing the same thing in my opinion. and the darkness scene was actually very effective.if i had to name one flaw (other than the uh classics of worse proofreading than my 4chan posts and random character jumbles at the end of chapters) it would be that until chapter 9, everypony seems way more scared of the train than they should. yeah, it's an inexplicable spatial and temporal anomaly, but in a world with magic, i wouldn't expect such a thing to be world-shatteringly horrifying like it probably would be in ours.like, why is sparkler saying that berry going crazy would be preferable to a train being longer on the inside? why is she so hesitant to board the train when as far as she knows, it's perfectly safe. until the nightmare creatures start showing up, you could accomplish most of what the train does with portals.i'm willing to look past that though. we can just say it was because premonitions or whatever.good fic. also, no way cheerilee is 35. she's the same age as rarity. also also, MASSIVE snail slander! he's dumb, but he's not "can't count to five" dumb.
>>43655073>she's the same age as rarity.No she's not, she's the same age as Shining Armor and Cadance.
>>43655078she was literally in rarity's class in a flashback in the cutie mark chronicles.
>>43655109As opposed to figuratively in Rarity's class?
>>43655073>>43655078The show doesn’t say how old Cheerilee is, but she’s probably middle aged. We know that the CMCs think that pairing her with Big Mac is appropriate, but they’re so much younger that they can’t tell what age an adult is or what’s an appropriate age gap. The biggest clue is that she and Mayor Mare were in school together and are similar ages. We don’t know Mayor Mare’s age, but we do know that she officiated Bright Mac and Pear Butter’s wedding. So when they were young adults, Mayor Mare was old enough to have been elected to office. That would put her in her mid 20s at least, and more likely her 30s, at the time of the wedding. Since Big Mac is now fully grown, it’s likely been 20 years since then. Even if Mayor Mare was elected young, Pear Butter was already pregnant at the wedding, and Big Mac is just an older teen, Cheerilee is at least in her 40s. More likely she’s in her 50s.
>>43655109>>43655167These observations are inconsistent—unless Cheerilee was born around the same time as Rarity and then traveled back in time.
>>43655167>>43655078S1: same age as Rarity and a bunch of background poniesS4: same age as Pinkie and a bunch of background poniesI think Hag!Cherilee is incredibly hot, but the show is pretty consistent that she's M6 age.
>>43655167>The biggest clue is that she and Mayor Mare were in school together and are similar ages.what episode was this shown in?
>>43655145using the word literally for emphasis is fine as long as the statement being emphasized is actually literal and not figurative.
>>43655231But what if it's literally a metaphor?
>>43655220>what episode was this shown in?It was shown in one of the comics (FIM #12). I think this does contradict the show though.
>>43655244Wouldn't this mean that Mayor Mare is Cherilee's age, not the other way around? Since they seem roughly the same age as Shining Armor here. It would fit with her dying her mane grey to appear older.
>>43655255Does that make Shining Armor the same age as AJ's parents? Fuck no wonder Twilight is so autistic, her mom must've had her at like fifty.
>>43655287My mom had me at 33 and I still ended up autistic.
>>43655255Well I wasn't the anon agree Mayor Mare and Cheerilee are hags. I just wanted to chime in since I know the comics are more niche. But I also don't think they're a good source to cite since they do contradict the show. I also think that Cheerilee and Mayor Mare are slightly older adults, and Mayor Mare just choose to make herself look older.To clarify, issue 11 and 12 are a flashback about Shiny and Cady having a high school romance. However it also features pre-cutie mark Twilight. That means this takes place before the flashback in Cutie Mark Chronicles. Cheerilee being a teen here shouldn't be possible, right? Cheerilee can't be a teen in Shining's class while also being a filly in Rarity's class.
>>43655298That's just because god hates her.
I'd like to think she's Big Mac's age.
>>43654587649 and Diary.Secondary vote to Rain Party
>>43655244damn, Mayor Mare lookin hot
>>43654587Voting for after I looked up
>>43655328I also think this.>>43654587Wait, are we supposed to be voting? All these together total are about like 50k words which isn't much. The last two are so short you could slap them alongside whatever wins.I'll still vote for 649/ Dear Diary since they're on my RIL.
>>43655078>>43655167>>43655244there is another moment from the show that seems to support this. in where the apple lies, cheerilee can breifly be seen in a flashback, and she looks a fair bit older than applejack does.
>>43654587voting rain party, written in synthetic blood, and https://www.fimfiction.net/story/587791/probably-not
>>43655439I don't think that one is as egregious as the comic since the age gap needed to make that work is not as large. It's not clear what the age gap from teen to young adult/older teen is here. If you want to get into headcanon you could say that AJ is a late bloomer (which is half canon, since all the Apple siblings were the last in their respective classes to get their cutie marks).Occam's razor makes me think that Cheerilee and Big Mac still around the same age. This would also mean that Rarity is older than AJ, but I think that's fine and doesn't break anything.
Why are you still here?
>>43655542just to suffer
>>43655542I still have writing left to do.
>>43655244I wrote >>43655167 imagining that this scene was from the show and not the comics. Obviously I was wrong. There's no easy way to reconcile it with Cheerilee being in the same class as filly Rarity. (You could say magic, or you could say one of them is a pony who isn't Cheerilee but happens to look exactly like her, but both of those are straining pretty hard to keep everything consistent.)>>43655383She's always hot.
>>43655594how many votes did that ass help her win, cum-ulatively?
How big do you guys think the local government of ponyville is? Like how many staff members does it have? What is there to go off of in the show? What’s it usually in fanon?
Why write when AI can write for you now?
>>43655654The AI’s are all controlled be Redditor rationaltards and it bleeds into how all of them speak and what information they pull from.
>>43655536Why is Big Mac looking at her like that?
>>43655654Because it doesn't write very well.
>>43655696What is this? A fan animation?
>>43655696It is really shocking how incredibly impressive image and especially video generation models are, and how relatively bad creative writing generated by AI feels in comparison.
>>43655712As far as I can tell it's a 2D billboard with a series of sprites on it that change based on the camera orientation.
Getting lots of ideas for my corpse chapter. Just to be clear, is there a max wordcount allowed or could I (purely hypothetically, of course) make my chapter a 50k epic?
>>43654587Stars - 6,7k649 + Diary - 21,4kRain Party - 10,2kBlood - 2,6kHoles - 8,6kThey're all very short. I don't think we could read all in one week. Perhaps we could do all but 649 and Diary, but they're the ones that have the most votes.Or we could just go "fuck it" and extend Halloween until the first week of November.
>>43655714Because your mind can't fill in the blanks for writing like it can images.
>>436557313k maxBut if you can turn your chapter in before two weeks pass, I think we can take it.
>>43654587Stars is nearly 7k words of building suspense/atmosphere with no pay-off, pretty much nothing actually happens there. Even if a lot of people evidently like it, it's not very good for club discussion.
>>43655747That must be the case, because I've read it and have absolutely no recollection of it. I wanted to re-read it a few months ago, but I don't even remember if I did.
>>43655733Here are some random horror one-shots tor fluff it up for two weeks, in case anyone wants to try that.https://www.fimfiction.net/story/402721/bitter-coldhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/381734/the-faces-we-sharehttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/155313/cinder-claws-the-caribou-legend-of-kol-klorhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/566763/vinyl-woke-uphttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/586633/the-town-that-never-dreamshttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/568061/hoofraiser
>>43655696What sort of training dataset do you think you would you need to give a LLM in order to get the best possible creative writing output?
>>43655789My writing.
>>43655789>claude>security risks What?
>>43655806It won't tell you how to make Google alts to rig Miss /mlp/
>>43655789I'll indulge you. How do you propose you rectify these things?https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1145039/checklist-for-things-that-hint-to-llm-usage-in-a-work-of-fanfiction
>>43655789"All of human fiction" is already a good dataset (although it should probably be curated a bit more); AI write bad because they're not trained to write good.
>>43655819I don’t know if you can with the way LLMs currently are. A good story is coherent on multiple levels that are all integrated into a whole that is the story and LLMs are bad at thinking like that.
I used to make AI stories a bunch. They were longfic epics and totally incoherent, but fun to make. Until I decided that AI was evil
>>43655844It was a fun little toy for about two weeks and then I got sick of it. I can see why some people get brain broken by it but it really isn't good.
I love AI because it lets me put off self-improvement and piss off those who haven't.
>>43655850New authors get brain RAPED by reading these Ai stories mostly because they mimic how AI writes, and it's pretty awful + they'll get slapped with accusationsPart of the reason why I gotta refresh my brain after reading a slew of terrible fanfics in a row
>>43655731>Remember to abide by the agreed upon rules:>FiM>Rated T>No HiE>2,000 word target per chapter, max 3,000>Early seasons>No AUs. If someone wants (for example) Tyrantlestia, then their chapter has to show FiM's canon Celestia turning into a tyrant, or secretly being a tyrant despite all the evidence from the show, or something like that.>No crossovers. No LotR, no Harry Potter, no Star Wars, no Evangelion, etc. That doesn't mean you can't reference these ("Cheerilee shouted, 'You shall not pass!'"), but you can't have characters from other franchises showing up.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/587600/snips-and-snails-and-pdtHow could this possibly be bad?
>>43655884Wow! It's awesome and very human made!
>>43655884To be fair "Snips and Snails accidentally join a neo nazi group" does seem in character to me.
>>43655897>Snips and Snails accidentally join aI'm now imagining a fic where Snips and Snails end up in Our Town and fuck up everything for Starlight before the M6 get there.
>>43655884This reminds me of this shit I saw a few days ago.
>>43655884Added the first part to my RiL, might review it if it's not sloppa (though the ratings being turned off is not a good sign)
>>43655935Average EaWigger attempt at "writing".
Reposting my stuff to Archive of Our Own and holy crap the fanfic scene there is way worse than I thought. Some of the formatting on these is incomprehensible.
>>43656005AO3 is half fujos and half children with some good writers caught in the cracks
>>43656009I've seen the fujos firsthand but some of this is likeI don't understand. Do they think this looks good?
>>43656014When you copy to AO3 from Word the regular spacing becomes bigger than it originally was. Judging by "Rainbowdash", the author was probably too lazy to fix it all manually.
>>43656005I don't like how messy the tagging system is. I don't like the weird joke tags. MLP is spoiled for having a good site to post fanfiction. Both site are like that one pic of the old guy digging for through rocks to find diamonds. Only the Ao3 user is digging for way longer and based on the fanbase is only ever gonna find more rocks.>>43656014That author probably uses two spaces for paragraph breaks in Word. When you copy paste it to Ao3 to comes out like that.
>>43656026>a good site to post fanfictionSo long as the fics involve shooting up conventions, right?
>>43656035Sour grapes.
>>43656035Don't you have futa porn you should be busy jacking off at?
>>43655935Only good EAW fic is Princess and Kaiser.
Does anyone still use fanfiction.net?
>>43656026And people actually ENGAGE with the storyOn other sites this doesn't happen much unless if you're forum posting>>43656054Sometimes, I do have an old story there I update, but people complain that they can't see my new chapters>For MLPNever.
>>43656060Yeah the only comment i got on one of my longer ones was a spam comment
>>43656054FFNet has more of an oldfag writing scene, as in people who started way back and are too set in their ways to completely move to AO3. Some classics for certain fandoms are only available on there.
Don't you guys know that AO3 is the most pro writer platform you can find? There are virtually no limits on what you can portray as long as it's a story. AO3 is easier to find exactly what you want than on any other story platform that exists.And AO3 is way better than FFN, SB, and Wattpad. Fimfiction is a great website, but it's only focused on one fandom.
>>43656072I already know exactly what I would not be able to post on there with impeccable precision
>>43656078RGRE?
>>43656072>WattpadI used to have Wattpad's app installed because for some reason you could find full versions of classic books there. I don't know if they're still up after all these year. I read through all of Moby Dick on Wattpad.
>>43656040the man can only crank it to hurricane futashy so many times
>>43656072That's all true, but AO3's tag system sucks for finding stories that focus on secondary or minor characters specifically. Oftentimes those are just tagged as part of a giant wall of characters with minor roles in the story. And oftentimes the story is just "the canonical story retold but with my awesome OC", and of course the autistic author tags every single character from the canonical story.>>43656085Probably fanfics about Aryanne and whatnot
>>43656078What would that be? Some edgy irl manifesto?
>>43656040
Okay, finished an editing pass on my dumb clopfic and it clocks in at 3046 words. That's one week of writing, though usually only 30 minutes to a hour a day and like 3 hours on Saturday. It seems like dumb clopfics are below the standards of the thread, but I do appreciate the advice anons gave!I feel like I have a list of solid core concepts, but lack the ability to deliver on their potential. Like the next idea on my list if I keep going is Pinkie Pie's Porgy (Party Orgy) which would parody party games like bobbing for dildos instead of bobbing for apples (insert Applejack joke about what's the difference) and instead of pin the tail on the donkey having blindfolded stallions trying to stick their dicks in mare pussy (which could lead to a WRONG HOLE joke). That's a fun/funny and fitting concept, right? It feels like the kind of thing Pinkie would do in an adult context. It seems like the kind of thing that should exist / would already have been done, but if it has been I haven't seen it.It's fun to come up with these ideas that I want to exist but then actually making them exist is a struggle, and it feels disappointing because no execution of an idea is ever as good as it seems in my head.
>>43656090Say what now?>>43656091Yes, those are clearly the exclusive domain of Stormfront and fimfic.
>>43656100>It seems like dumb clopfics are below the standards of the threadOur most prolific reviewer spent the Summer writing a 70k Daring Do flattening fetish fic
>>43656108I thought I should have specified "about Aryanne slaughtering niggers and whatnot" a second after I hit Submit.
>>43656111Elevated clop only.
>>43656111>our most prolific reviewerI respect daringanon's 'tistic tenacity, but that title belongs to one special faget alone.>>43656120Don't worry, anon, my door is always open if you want to discuss stalag horsewords.
Also, from my cursory look at the content policy, it does look like you could entirely get away with hosting a genocidal clopfic so long as you avoided pinging your black brony brothers with it.https://archiveofourown.org/contentEven its Diversity Statement, despite being titled the way many marxist manifestos are, only serves to further cement this stance of "no story rejected".So don't kid yourself. Knighty is a little bitch, and his moderation staff even more so. Quit bitching about the tags and hop on AO3.
He's still pissy about this?
Live Free or Die, Nigger. Suffer not the petty wrath of the tranny janny nor the censor's "standards" devoid of integrity both moral and structural.
>>43656222When is he not pissy?>>43656239>quotes the state motto of New Hampshire>while being Israeli
>>43656100>dumb clopfics are below the standards of the threadYou have to understand that we're pretentious around here. Your dumb clopfic? That's beneath us. We're going to say it's shit. Even if it's great, we have a reputation to uphold, so we're going to eagerly clop to it, put it on our private "Came to this" bookshelves, and then come back here and say it's shit.But if you say, "This is my fetish and if you don't like it you can fuck off," then you're an artist. You have a noble vision. Your work is profound. We're going to eagerly clop to it, put it on our private "Came to this" bookshelves, then come back here and glaze you for being a genius.>That's a fun/funny and fitting concept, right?You're imagining comedic situations, not a comedic story. To tell a comedic story, comedic situations aren't enough. You also need comedic characters and a comedic plot. For example, maybe Twilight is embarrassed to be a virgin. She pretends she's experienced, but as the night goes on, she gets less and less comfortable. She remains unwilling to admit she's a virgin, so she has to come up with more and more ridiculous excuses to not participate in various activities. That's a setup that can be turned into a story. The easiest way to bring that setup to a conclusion would be for her to get found out and to then consent to having sex. And maybe the rest of the M6 knew she was a virgin all along and it was just a setup to get her laid for the first time.>actually making them exist is a struggle, and it feels disappointing because no execution of an idea is ever as good as it seems in my head.That's just how writing is.
>>43656482Maybe Twilight is uncomfortable only because she doesn't want to cheat on her brother.
Does anyone remember the name of the fic where it's post-apocalyptic/post human contact and Twilight is a nun of Celestia? I think the title had wheel or circle in it.I remember reading it here years ago and liked the prose.
>>43656548What other details can you remember about it? About how long was it, and what tags did it probably have (other than the obvious)
>>43656671This is the closest I could findhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/333452/legacy
>only three people participated in the clubis the club dying? like, actually?
>>43656688I read the fic, but I'm busy giving the finishing touches to my ongoing story. It ends next week, and I decided to do some reworking to the last chapter+epilogue because I hate myself.
I've considered making an Ao3 account, since one guy made a hugely pregnant Queen Chrysalis for me, and I'll be finishing a story about his kobold in return; one of my commissioners also wants a Tiny Toons story sooner or later. I'm not certain if it's worth it or not, however, and porting over my current body of work seems like a pointless waste of time.
>>43656688The fic before this one had a lot of discussion. The week's fic had bad timing due to the site being unusable for a while and was picked late.
>>43656786You might as well put yourself into the queue so that if you have have a use for an account you have one alreadyPosting on Ao3 doesn't really get you feedback if that's what you're looking for though yeah
>>43656688After E485k, I won't read any more Unwhole Hole fics.I think it's really obvious that the club won't be as haphazardly organized after Halloween.Also, >>43656788Not every week needs to have half a dozen posters in it or else the club be declared dead.
>>43656786You should get an account for non-pony works. For horsewords, though, there's no point.
>>43656548That sounds familiar, I remember thinking that the cult/nun thing was too weird and dropping it. I'll look around.
>>43656688>only two people read Twilight the royal guard book 2Nah. Although it does seem to be more fun with more people
>>43656671It was pretty long (multi-part) and was a retelling of the first episode. It followed nun-twilight going on a religious pilgrimage and gathering up the mane six from the multiple pony political factions. Nun twilight also didn't use magic (the "blight") for religious reasons so she was a grown mare that was a blank flank. I think it may have been a greentext?
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/441486/a-daring-mission4/10. In an AU where the M6 have grown goatees and taken over, Daring goes on a mission to reset the timeline. From the word count, I knew this would have pacing problems. I don't think there's a way you can pull off an evil AU timeline fic in 1.3k and it not have pacing issues. The plot's okay, but it definitely has some of that amateurish feel throughout and could have easily been fleshed out way more to improve the story.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/434709/shoeshine-and-the-khaki-maniac7.5/10. With the M6 busy with S9 shit, Daring recruits a group of background ponies (and Trixie) for her next adventure. Technically, Shoeshine's the POV character for the story, but I'm on a Daring run, not a BP run. This fits comfortably in the lighthearted adventure genre, much like FoME's earlier Daring oneshot about the ancient weapon. There's a reference to it which technically makes this a sequel, but that one's Daring and this one's feel different. This one's weighed down by canon while that one felt much freer and not as rough.The plot's pretty standard for the lighthearted genre but like its predecessor, I feel like the climax could have been much stronger. There's not even a fight. Ahuizotl just gives up because he's a little cold. C'mon. You could do something there instead. As for the comedy, it was as I feared. Nothing was able to top the cover art joke. All that said, still a solid entry in the lighthearted genre.>>43655542Gotta finish my deadfic.>>43655636>How big do you guys think the local government of ponyville is?It's a small town. Not counting emergency services, probably no more than 15-20, I'd say.>go off of in the show?I think Mayor Mare's the only government official shown in the show.>What’s it usually in fanon?Dash is traditionally the "Weather Manager" for Ponyville, which is a bureaucratic government position that liaisons with Cloudsdale for the scheduling, Weather Factory allotments, etc.. And there's some BPs on the weather team. Other than that, there's not any real fanon. I don't ever recall seeing a City Council or Board of Trustees in any fics, or Planning Commission, Comptroller, etc.>>43655654Why play video games when an AI can just do it for you? Because it's fun.>>43655884>sequel>no need to read the original because there's no connectionSo... it isn't a sequel, then?>>43655935I'm shocked there's no EaW tag. That whole thing just screams it.>>43656005AO3 made me realize why the 1k minimum is needed. It filters out a lot of hot garbage. Don't think I saw a sub 1k fic over there that looked even remotely good.>>43656111Hey, it was 80k.>>43656137You'll like the scene where the villain is inflated into a mare balloon and floats to the ceiling, then.>>43656948>pretty long>from the multiple pony political factions>didn't use magic (the "blight")Sounds kind of like Re:Harmony, but it doesn't have nuns
>>43657017>Sounds kind of like Re:Harmony, but it doesn't have nunsmaybe anon is mixing two fics up in his head.
>>43656035Why would you care about posting when you're incapable of writing?
>>43656072>AO3 is easier to find exactly what you wantBased on my experiences, no it's fucking not. The hyperspecific tags means it's very easy to find "exactly" the one or two fics that have precisely the things you want, but because there's so many if what you want is something more generic then they just slip to the cracks. Finding good porn on Ao3 is fucking impossible. On Fimfiction you can just search by characters and look at each story, because limited tags mean only what's important is tagged. On Ao3 you get a thousand stories that happen to feature the thing you want in passing but still come up in the search because they're overtagged, whereas if you search something in particular get fucked because there's too many tags and variations therefore so most of the fics you would want to see will be missed if you search by a specific tag.
>>43656078Ao3 happily lets you post about kids being raped (or kids having consensual sex). The sole good thing about it is that it doesn't stop you from posting anything at all.
>>43657338I feel like Fimfiction is too far in the other direction, the tags are too limited and it makes finding specific things a pain in the ass.
>>43656239It's really funny that you're so pissy about Fimmy's content limits (which exist because the site is hosted and Knighty lives in a dystopia whose laws he has to comply with) because it's a clear attempt to make yourself seem like a martyr when everyone knows you weren't banned for what you posted (that would have required you to write something) but for hosting an off-site script for mass downvoting (of the kind of stories you don't approve of and wish weren't on the site, because you're a massive hypocrite on top of everything else) and then being a stupid cunt when trying to get your account back.
>>43657365This is solved by Fimfiction authors naturally leaning towards descriptions that are actually useful, especially with porn.
>>43656307Uh, yeah? I'm voting for Zehut tomorrow because they're the closest we have to LPNH.>>43657333A freedom need not be exercised to be worth having.>>43657366My script was not born in a vacuum. While I do advocate for certain "authors" to be taken out back, failing such ideal measures, I would at least appreciate the ability to filter their degeneracy so that I need not suffer through it.Knighty, however, is more occupied with bemoaning his own situation than doing anything to fix it. Or his site, for that matter. Excepting band-aid solutions, fimfic's development has been stalled for close to a decade.>>43657368So you admit fimfic's "tagging system" is such utter tripe users have to fall back on full-text description searches.
>>43657368>especially with porn.borderline exclusively with porn, and even then, all that's really doing is approximating ao3's tagging system.
>>43657399>>43657385Ao3 doesn't even have a generic porn tag worth anything.
>>43657368Porn is the one place where Fimfiction's tagging system really fails. Porn readers want to be able to search by sex act, and that means tagging sex acts. Any experienced Fimfiction pornographer knows that their long description needs a list of sex act tags.But outside of porn, I think Fimfiction's tagging system is great. People don't even complain about it that much—the complaints are almost always related to tagging for porn.
>>43657497What if you don't want to describe things? You just want to post and that's it. That's what tags are for.
>>43657499>What if you don't want to write?Then I don't want to read your story.
>>43657507I'm not talking about the story itself. I'm talking about putting a description as well. It is like buying a book with no back cover. Just the title, the author's name and a picture.
>>43657512I know you're talking about the description. If you can't be bothered to write a description, then I'm not going to be bothered to read your story. Not without a recommendation from someone else, at least. I wouldn't buy a book with no back cover, either.
>>43657497>>43657499>add booru / Ao3 style tags>wanna search a blowjob fic>five different blowjob tags>half the fics only use the niche tags and not the main one>there's a fellatio tag that's different from the blowjob tag for some reason >there's an oral tag that's a superset of both blowjob and cunnilingus but there's no tag implication system>relationships are overtagged >your search query ends up looking like "(blowjob OR blowjob m/f OR oral sex m/f OR (oral sex && m/f) OR bj OR bj m/f OR (fellatio && m/f)) && - stapon fellatio m/f">half the results are futa or gay>can't filter out the futa or gay only results without filtering out the m/f blowjob fics that also happen to have a futa or gay bj in them>excluding male on female strapon bjs accidentally cucked you out of the best straight bj scene which happens to be in an anthology that also has a strap chapter >you forgot to search for the legacy "straight blowjob" tag>a third of the result of that one would be male sucking futa anyway >spent too much time engineering your search prompt >sort by score in the hopes of at least getting something >top results are all 100k words self insert crossoverslop Versus >search for "#Porn blowjob" on Fimfiction >this fic looks like it has blowjobs in it
>>43657530most of what you have under>>add booru / Ao3 style tagsalso applies to the pseudotagging some porn authors on fimfic use right now, and there's no reason you can't just>>search for "#Porn blowjob" on Fimfiction>>this fic looks like it has blowjobs in iton ao3 using the blowjob tag instead of searching for the word in descriptions.>but what if they used a different tag that means the same thing?what if they used a different word that means the same thing in their fimfic description?did you even think at all when writing this?
>>43657017>I think Mayor Mare's the only government official shown in the show.From Smile^3
Ponyville's Gov. body just looks like a shitshow
>>43657609The town has like 100 people in it and I guess half of them work in government
>>43657017>I think Mayor Mare's the only government official shown in the show.The comic has an issue about AJ going through City Hall (Friends Forever #15).
No fluttershy for him
>>43657612100 is about how many pegasi live in ponyville.in hurricane fluttershy, rainbow's goal for ponyville's total wingpower is "over a thousand", and the bar wants every pegasus to be able to clear is 10.0. so with some simlple math, there's about 100 pegasi in ponyville. this doesn't tell us how many ponies total live in ponyville, but i like the idea of there being about as many unicorns as pegasi, and about twice as many earth ponies as either. in total, that would be ~400 ponies, which feels just right to me.
fimfic at the very least needs shipping tags (starlight x sunburst, fluttershy x angel, etc.) and relationship category tags (m/f, f/f, etc.).
Today I paid my property taxes and got everything ready to submit by second ever dumb clopfic to FIMfiction. That's something, right? Life isn't meaningless?>>43656111>>43657017Oh hey, flattening is rare. Are you a fan of RidiculousCake, daringdo-anon?>>43657338Yeah, echoing the sentiments about A03 being a fucking mess. Like >>43657343 said if it legitimately allows you to upload anything that's a pro, but the con is it allows anyone to upload anything. Even just trying to browse the MLP fanfiction it's a mess of walls of tags of like a million crossovers (which must just be tags so the story shows up a bunch, because like a 5K word story can't have 50 different series) or "stories" that are just two sentences.>>43657365>>43657368Yeah, the free text search on FIMfiction is way more helpful than the tags for finding specific things.
>>43657656>fluttershy x angelIt's less of a crackship than fluttercord, but still, why?
>>43657656This. This is the main reason the tag system is annoying. If there are several characters tagged along with Romance, it can be hard to determine which ship the story actually features.
>>43656482This is very insightful regarding the difference between a situation and a story. I've got a list of dozens of ideas for stories, but I'm realizing now they're single statements instead of plotlines (like "What if X" or "Y does Z"). Maybe that's enough for a short fic though? Or more like "I hope this concept will expand into a story as I write it."I guess the process I'm following is Concept->Outline->Story, and hoping in the outlining process the concept will naturally expand into a plotline that would support a short story.
>>43657656The lack of such tags makes the list clean and makes the site look more respectable from an outside perspective for whatever that's worth. Uploaded a test game to itch.io once and there's a typeahead for the tags there, so as soon as you start typing you get a tag list that's like 100x porn tags for every 1x game tag. Not sure if when you think itch.io you think "indie games" or "porn" but someone new just looking at tags is definitely going to think "oh, this is a porn site." If FIMfiction wants to be perceived more as "fanfiction" than "porn" not having a list of porn tags that overwhelms the non-porn tags makes sense.
>>43657602>>43657609>>43657612>>43657626>>43657630>>43657651Fuck it I’ll just go with my headcanon that it’s not very big. Maybe just major mare or one or two other actual officials, a few bureaucrats and clerks, and a janitor to (he does NOT do it for free). And that the percent of inhabitants of ponyville that work for the local government is small, around or less than 1%. If they had to get the normal ponies to coordinate and lead things like winter wrap up or delivering water to cloudsdale that means they don’t have any full time officials that that’s the responsibility of. Which sort of implies there are not a lot of ponies in government.
>>43657723shipping =/= porn.
>>43657730Anything can be porn if you’re enough of a freak! your post could be porn for example.
>>43657728"If people were angels, we wouldn't need government" - Thomas JeffersonPonies are a lot closer to angels than people, so they need a lot less government.
>>43657739Ponies *are* people, /kinder/tard.
>>43657739>Ponies are a lot closer to angels than peopledyewts?
>>43657707>>43657723It's rarely difficult to tell what ponies are shipped from the description, and if it ever is, you can tell immediately from the groups 99% of the time. That has never been a real problem on fimfic, but has always been a problem for people trying to shill Ao3's tags.
>>43657752>>43657750Ponies don't rape nor murder. They are closer to angels than humans.
>>43657576>on ao3 using the blowjob tag instead of searching for the word in descriptionsSee, you're fucking retarded and missed the part where doing so excludes any story that doesn't have the tag.
>>43657772>Ponies don't rape nor murder
>>43657707>>43657656What are groups
>>43657779???searching for "blowjob" on fimfiction excludes sny story that doesn't have the word in its title or description. what's the difference?
>>43657787Another form of cope.
>>43657787a sorry replacement for proper tags.
>>43657788>searching for "blowjob" on fimfiction excludes sny story that doesn't have the word in its title or descriptionSee, the problem with you stupid retards is that you complain about Fimfiction but don't even use the fucking site, and just make shit up and lie to trick yourself into thinking a website that literally went into a panic once people realised how exploitable and broken the tagging system was is actually totally better.
>>43657772Explain this then.
fimfic's tagging isn't technically good. used optimally, ao3's is a million times better. but fimfic's tagging system is idiot proof, and idiots are the main people writing fanfiction.
>>43657656the species character tags (like the kirin or bat pony tags) also should not take up a character tag slot.
>>43657817Fimfiction's tagging system is excellent if you're not a retard who for some reason thinks a piece of written fiction should be tagged the same way an image should.
>>43657807>"I've been a *bad* pony">RGREdo words even fucking mean anything to these people?
>>43657817Yeah I just got through the MLP section of AO3 trying to pick out stuff that interests me. Definitely worse. The biggest sin is that most of it is just 200 word starts to a story that quickly gets abandoned. Say what you want but I feel like fimfic at least has a tendency to finish or at least expand on most of their fics.
>>43657825you're the kind of persom fimfic's tagging system was designed around.
>>43657900I think I found our next OP.
>>43657656I still think it's very telling that Lego Ninjago has a dedicated tag while G1 doesn't.
>>43657900>there are at least 46 people who jerked off to Eggman railing Sonic
>>43657900i want you to explain to me how ao3's fundamental tagging system is the problem here and not just people overtagging characters.>but ao3's system allows overtagging charactersyeah, fimfic was idiotproofed to curb this, but that's the thing, it was a big enough problem that it had to be idiotproofed. character overtagging, the obvious problem in your pic, is not exclusive to ao3's freeform style tags.
>>43657906i will literally bake just to prevent this.
>>43657807><meta property="og:description" content="To make up for not being around as much lately, Spitfire treats you to a sensual apology blowjob.">Why do you lie?
>>43657952>why do we need guardrails? Just drive good on the highway
>>43657978you're missing the point. freeform tags aren't the problem.
>>43657783>>43657812Not fucking canon is what these ponies are.
>>43657985>cars aren't a problem so we don't need licenses
>>43658035>pinkie pie isn't canon
>>43658041Correct. Pinkie Pie is not canon.
>>43658035There's more canon in the tip of a board OC's marecock than in a thousand creaturequestria subequines.
>>43657985How would you stop fimfiction users from doing the same thing then?
>>43658035You won't be saying that when Pinkamena rapes you in your sleep tonight
>>43658052literally already implemented. just put a limit on how many character tags you can include.
>>43658052Just have them organized to be grouped separately from non-Freeform tags and create a option to toggle their visibility on and off.
>>43658063You ever notice how they never actually address the demonstrations of how Ao3's tag system doesn't work, but just keep shilling it anyway? It's almost like they don't want it to be better.
>>43658080what's all this then?>>43657576>>43657788>>43657952>>43657958
>>43658080explain to me how groups work better as tags than tags do.
>>43658088Groups are better than Ao3 tags>>43658092They help me find good fics to read and tell me what the fic is about if the author didn't write its front page properly. These are the things that Ao3 shills pretend their tags do, but don't.
>>43658080Your point would be more valid if a large amount of those didn’t correspond to thing you could easily find with just normal tags. And these are obviously not the same as tags you can look at on the story page.
>>43658111no, i said explain it; not just repeat that groups are better. what actually makes them better? where do groups succeed where tags fail?
>>43657910g1 deserves two tags. 'n friends and tales should each have their own tag.
>>43658151the tunigger loves foalcon groups because they both lets him know who has the balls to display his filly love openly so he may harass them and permit him to peruse all the latest foalfics without a soul knowing
>>43658187>Projecting so hard his nickname should be 'cinema'
>>43658191thank you for calling my post kino.
>>43658191I chuckled. That's a good line anon, I might steal that sometime.
>>43658060So do what Fimfiction already does.
>>43657656No, that gives legitimacy to homosexuality.
Submitted my second ever clopfic to FIMfiction. Here's hoping it was worth it. I guess it feels good to do something? Usually I try to do things but give up / fail before the end. At least this was something finished.For any writers in the thread, how do you usually feel when you submit a story?
>>43658276>rejects quality of life for himself just because le ebil gays could get it too
>>43658276You'd be a legitimately good homosexual nglyou were fun to talk to so I'd at least TRY impregnating your bussy
>>43658289For me, the whole writing process is a constant sine wave of thinking I'm a wannabe writer who should be publicly mocked for turning considerable effort into garbage, and believing I might call myself a Writer when there's no one around to hear it. The moment of clicking 'Submit story' is always the inflection point where I go,>I can see the mistakes, but I can also see the end.and start to slowly recover from the lowest possible opinion I could hold about a story of mine. It typically settles into my final opinion about the piece a few days later.
>>43658289>how do you usually feel when you submit a story?I fucking did it!Then the feeling fades after a day or so, when I remember all the other unfinished shit I have.
>>43654587>>43655733Okay, so for this week let's maybe do the ones that actually got any attention:>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/304458/entry-649 + https://www.fimfiction.net/story/452073/dear-diary>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/536211/rain-party>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/587791/probably-not>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/509734/written-in-synthetic-blood>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/418430/after-i-looked-up-the-stars-had-gone-awaySince that's slightly over 40k and it all works well for one week. If Stars really is what >>43655747 says, then probably at least some people will skip it, leaving them with ~35k across 4 stories (lumping 649+sequel together).Two weeks of shortfics is also alright imo. If I end up having a bit of time, I might look for a few extra suggestions, and if not, I'll post >>43655733 plus any write-ins.
>>43658468mmm drunkmaresthey remind me of my own drunken selfsaying things I shouldn't sayrizzing those who ought not to be rizzed
>>43658289>how do you usually feel when you submit a story?Confident.
>>43657017That's not it, but thanks for trying, anon! If it helps narrow it down, I remember there being a b plot about a pony named lucky clover who was a spy-scientist studying the elements of harmony (implied to be ai left by the humans)
>>43658289>For any writers in the thread, how do you usually feel when you submit a story?Antsy. I have a habit of refreshing the page a bunch on the first upload day.
>>43657714Yes, it can be enough. Those ideas are often what you need to get yourself going. When you trying to turn them into a story, they often naturally expand. You have to set up the characters and the setting, and you have to do something to put them into the situation you have in mind. Once you've done that, all you need to do is figure out some way to change the status quo and you have an ending.For example, "bobbing for dildos" is a funny situation, not a story, but it could be turned into a story (besides being part of a story about Pinkie holding an adult-themed party). If Pinkie sets up a "bobbing for dildos" booth at a local fair, you have potential conflict, and that can drive a story. It could be a story about Pinkie; maybe she's trying to get stallions turned on so that she can get laid, but it doesn't work until she changes something (maybe she needs to change the booth to "bobbing for pussy"). Or it could be a story about other ponies who just happen to come by; maybe Spoiled Rich tries to get Pinkie shut down in the name of family values, but Pinkie asks why, then, is it that the Rich family likes her booth so much? "My Diamond Tiara would never—!" "No, silly, not her! I mean your husband!" And then it's a story about the marital relations of the Rich family; I don't know where that story goes or where it ends, but it's a story.It takes some effort to develop individual concepts or scenes into stories. Outlining is good for this because it lets you flesh out the main points of a story quickly. If something's not working, you can figure it out and fix it early.
I wonder if there are people who write pony diaper/ABDL stories out there.
>>43659144>Your lesbian future molesting your filly past to create your sexually-confused present.
>>43659162No, none at all. It's never been done.
>>43659197Well, it's more like I don't know any authors or stories related to the genre, so I would like to know if there were any recs out there.
>>43659309I recommend you find a better fetish.
>>43659309Ask the diaper thread.
Any fics about Twilight dating/marrying someone and Spike's kind of got the "you're not my real parent" shit going on?
>>43658652The found story ishttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/529667/spiders-and-magic-ultimate-showdownWhich is not at all what you described, so I'm gonna go with that story doesn't exist and the ones saying you're mixing up stories are right, or it's tagged Anon or Anthro and not indexed.If you swap out blight for nun, the above story remains and two more are added,https://www.fimfiction.net/story/85516/to-serve-bronieshttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/71459/how-i-became-an-alicornBut those also don't seem to be it.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/448552/daring-do-and-the-haunted-booty-hole5.5/10. Daring and Dash trudge through a swamp, seeking a famed pirate treasure. This one is a textbook feature-bait comedy oneshot. It even has the final punchline. The characterization, especially of Dash, has that heavy idiocy common in the comedy genre and I feel that drags it down a lot. It also really needed something to bring out the final punchline more. Maybe some more innuendo jokes or a running gag or something.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/450896/fulcrum7.5/10. Daring and Mayor Mare's decades-long relationship is explored. This is a sequel to a fic I didn't care about and didn't read. The only relevant thing from it is Mayor Mare had some kind of relationship with an OC that ended badly. The rest of the story has that sort of "romance fic" tone and feel I first picked up with that Daring Dash one. It's an interesting ship and likely the only instance of it on Fimfic. They pair together in that "opposites attract" sort of way and it works pretty well. The romance stuff does seem a little oddly paced. There's shipping stuff, but it takes them literal decades to actually kiss each other. I also wasn't a big fan of the timeline. Daring is apparently 40+ years old in Daring Done, which feels way too old for me. Even so, it still scratched the romance itch rather nicely.>>43657671>Are you a fan of RidiculousCakeI like his early stuff back when he was still Goomba, but then he got sucked into the fatass shit that's ensnared half the people with the fetish and all his stuff in the last decade has just been totally unappealing to me. I'm waiting for the farting crap to start so he can complete the full descent into the fatass subgenre and I can wash my hands of the filth and start filtering him like I did with SquashedFlat and Cainam.Noctulov used to be 10/10, but he hasn't done pone stuff in years. I've been reduced to the Qular guy on Twitter, but his art style is a bit too cute and not athletic enough to be that stimulating, and the Darky Russian guy on Derpibooru, but it's a dice roll whether his crush art will be a cartoony flattening or full gore.That's why I have to write my own 80k fetish fic, because no one else is going to come close to hitting my bullseye these days. Reminds me of the guy that learned how to draw because there wasn't any Silver the Hedgehog flattening art so he had to do it himself.>>43658289Relief that it's finally done and I got the monkey off my back and a little anxiety over how it'll perform.>>43659162There's at least two Daring fics about Dash getting age regressed by an artifact and Daring having to be her parent. I'm not sure if they're fetish fics or in the Faeforches genre.
>>43659162>>43659462While /trash/'s /dpg/ is mostly an imagedump, the associated dicksword runs story & art contests on a semi-regular basis.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/516959/rider-on-the-stormA friend of mine recommended this fic and I wasn't sure what it might entail, but in the end I was pleased by a work that tries to make sense from a disaster that is the MLP MovieStorm Empire being given context of a warlord "state" is quite nice. The movie makes it look like the King is a incompetent fool (who, somehow, also managed to /fool/ his commander into unquestionable loyalty), while Tempest just runs the tyranny and its army all by herself. The fic showcasing the whole operation as one giant WAAAGH! with T. Shadow as the only one doing srs bsns is amazing.What isn't amazing is Anon's constant cultural references. I laughed at "beating quota" in the beginning, but was tired of them by the time the green faggot started talking about fucking wojaks. It's a nice gag to have Anon reference stuff only we get, but having some it /in every paragraph of the fic/ is absurd. What were they thinking?A bunch of "meta" comments were also weird in my opinion. I love meta, but the fic used it in a "self-aware" way that's a clear sign of the writer not trusting his own writing skills.Anon being blatantly anti-furnigger and pro-pony also felt too meta.Back to good parts, I felt that the whole movie being "on rails" until Canterlot was neat. Despite Anon changing many things in the world he couldn't really change fate. Anon's goons were nice too. The scene in the prison tower was just 10/10I've to finish the fic, decided to post when I noticed the last two chapters + Eplogue taking one half of the entire wordcount. Feel like the Chekhov's guns are about to turn into a firing squad. Feel free to reply, as I'm gonna return later today when I finish reading the finalephoneposting, please ignore any typos
>>43660009>I love meta, but the fic used it in a "self-aware" way that's a clear sign of the writer not trusting his own writing skills.Where did the self-aware parts really annoy you
>>43648631I'm going to start writing a series of fanfics where somebody I don't agree with gets lectured by Twilight Sparkle about how they are wrong and I am right. They will be shocked when Twilight reveals that she, a genius, thinks they're wrong before losing the debate horribly.Since twilight is smart it will make me look better.
>>43659984Flutterfag, I'm going to go out on a VERY LONG limb here and assume you only gained this knowledge through a transcendental Aryan enlightenment trip, and not by personal experience.
>>43660378Nonny discovers Socratic dialogues from the first principles (laudatory).
I'm wondering if I should get a Bluetooth keyboard and just write on my phone. It would be much more portable and less bulky than carrying a laptop. Any suggestions? Or would it be better to use something bigger for writing?
>>43659830Age regression is almost always a fetish thing if it's a fanfic.
>>43660391Such keyboards tend to be decent enough, but are more tablet-oriented.Still, they are serviceable.Check if you like the keyboard feel, if it's wide enough for both of your palms, does your phone sit snug in there and, most importantly, do you feel like carrying it with you.If you don't feel like carrying it, here's your answer.
>>43660391How big is your laptop?Although a phone and a keyboard might be smaller overall, you have to handle two things and any kind of connection issues that come up instead of just a single thing. Also if you read what you write you might have more eyestrain reading a smaller phone screen for an extended period of time rather than a laptop screen.
>>43660392>Age regressionA thing that is not very welcome online, it seems. I just wish I knew people I could talk to about it.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/595801/taken-inIs this any good? I really like changeling stories, but I haven't had the time to check it out yet. I'm wondering if any of you have to see if its worth my time.
>>43660392What if it's an AU where the character is a baby to begin with?
>>43660464That's fine. It's when they get turned into a baby so that X character can mommy them that you immediately worry. It's all about from which perspective it gets approached from. Like fae obviously wants to be a dad versus superpinkbrony who wants to be an infant.The Celestia that suckles the colt versus the colt that suckles Celestia.
>>43660009>What isn't amazing is Anonkek
>>43660391>>43660394I got a foldable keyboard with a touchpad and it sucks. It misses about 20% of the keypresses, and you can't really predict which ones, so I have to focus a lot to type with it. The experience is very unpleasant. It was reviewed positively, too, so the others must've been worse (and I read that missed keypresses is a common occurrence on these tiny keyboards).I don't regret buying it because it is still way, way faster to type on than the phone screen keyboard and I bought it for that purpose, but it's unsuitable for leisure.
>>43660613Damn, I was even considering one for travel horsewords.
>>43660613Rigidity, rigidity and rigidity.Rigidity to register inputs, rigidity to not wobble under your hands, rigidity to hold the phone in place when not on at a table, but wherever you are.I don't think it's really solveable in the phone size or close to it.I'm salivating a bit for something like picrel, but even iPad mini will be heavier than the keyboard, so not ideal.A pretty cool solution is to use glasses like nReal and leave the phone in your pocket and just hold a mini-keyboard in one hand and type over it with the other, but that really attracts attention and also drains the battery real fast.I'm afraid the best portable typewriter is a used macbook air of m-series. They do develop keyboard problems too, of course.
>>43660391>>43660613Doubleposting, but I forgot something important.Logitech K480. On market since Season 5, iirc.Gets the job done, works on AAA, supports several devices via a single knob.Not a pocket device, but if you are mentally ready for a laptop, but have no means to procure one, get this one used, it'll serve you well.
Seriously considering reading Duelists of the Friendship Cup. I'm having a stressful week and want some trash to take my mind off of it.
>>43660858I am cringing just looking at that cover so I'm guessing if you're looking for trash you need look no further.
>>43660858If you're gonna do Sunset just do Hunts the Undead, you'll probably have a better time of it.
>>43660009>10 hours agomight've been to liberal with my reading speed lolanyway...New Checkhov's guns being /placed/ and /fired/ in a single chapter was insanely good, but the fact that "Plan B" is just "read the sequel still WIP in 2026 ^:)" is terrible. Why leave so many hooks for "plan B" just for it to be sequelbait? You only do that in the fucking epilogue Also Anon being so OP that he predicted /everything/ just to /surrender/ for Plan B once he couldn't steamroll Tree of Harmony is absurd. How the hell did he miss all the EoH references in books while reading about all the ancient sorts of magic? His sources managed to pull info on stuff not even princesses know anything aboutWhen reading I had an idea that his plan B involved "great betrayal" of Tempest, perhaps trying to use her "switching sides" for his benefit, but nope! Plan B is just him being another cuckstoned Discord for a whileSpeaking of Discord, WHERE THE FUCK IS HE? I had a feeling that FS leaving the girls was her calling for him, but I guess not even in the MLP Movie rewrite the bastard is used for any meaningful purposeso far enjoyed the battle scenes, although calmer parts (like goons' scenes and Anon talking to the Stick) have prose much-MUCH better than the main action stuff >>43660369Anon quite literally predicting everything to the last detail, which is really fucking unusual for a version of Anon that doesn't know shit about MLP nor the world running on literal cartoon logic there are hints that he /knows/ cartoon logic being functional on Equus, but they are so tame I think I might be schizoing themalso that one line about "shitty fanfiction" just didn't work, especially when it was place right at the start of the fic
>>43660797>I don't think it's really solveable in the phone size or close to it.Yes>I'm salivating a bit for something like picrelIf it doesn't fit in your pocket, what is even the point? Only if a laptop is too expensive would I suggest a 60% keyboard, maybe from TKL or similar.
>>43661146A 7-8 inch tablet does fit into my pocket.The problem is I carry an MBA with me anyway.
>>43661096>>43659830I will probably never actually take the time to read these fanfictions, but I genuinely appreciate the informative and amusing reviews. Nice work anons, and thanks to anyone else who posts reviews or such in the thread too.
>>43661726Guess she's not a fan of lemons.
>>43661726Stories about ponies living up to their cutie names?Aside from the other lemon one.
>>43661726I still remember when NSFW fanfics were called lemon.How long was that? 20 years ago?
>>43661796It was still current 20 years ago, but it was pretty old by then, and I think it was already on its way out. 25 years ago it was still common. That's an amazing lifetime for a term like that (since it dates to 1984's Cream Lemon).
>>43660454It’s meh, I dropped it.
>>43660613>trusting reviews
>>43662009Trust nopony.
>>43662066Not even yourself...
>>43662085I'm not a pony, I'm a guy.
Thanks a lot to the anons in the thread that give writing advice and encourage writing. 0 comments on the story I posted but a handful of people added it to favorites and one even to a custom group called "my favorite clopfics" so that makes me happy.
>>43662231You get used to the disappointment after a while.Which makes it much more delicious when someone actually comments.
>>43662093You're not a pony!?I can't believe I had sex with you!
>>43662231You need to work on punctuation.>“Twilight, are you sure about this? You're like a big sister to me” Spike said.This should have a comma before the closing quotation mark. You make this error a lot: You consistently leave out commas and periods before a closing quotation mark. These are not optional. A quotation mark that ends dialogue must be preceded by punctuation.>“Spike” she said seriously,>“I'm going to 'foreplay' you”This needs a comma before the first closing quotation mark and a period before the second. Also, it has an extra line break after "seriously". Were you the anon talking about ending a sentence with a comma for effect? If so, I have to say that, in at least this case, it just looks like a mistake.>in personNeeds a hyphen: in-person>Without her even releasing itrealizing>This is beyond a standard deviation of the mean of expected length, width and depth! The overall proportions of your endowment are surely a statistical outlier!I thought it was two standard deviations to be an outlier.>Twilight said like a scientist describing an alien life formRedundant. The line of dialogue already shows us this, so you don't have to tell us.>a good job.aStray "a".>Start SwirlStar Swirl>“Twi, I'm gonna...I'm GONNA” Spike didn't know how to put what he was feeling into words.>“I'M GONNA BURST!”Another extra line break. When you end a paragraph, readers will usually assume that a speaker is done talking and that someone else speaks next. You should usually keep a speaker's dialogue in one paragraph. If you need to break it into two paragraphs, you should clearly indicate in both paragraphs who is speaking.>The pure sensations and bliss waswere>his his still thrustinghipsYou cheat yourself a little bit. You start with:>“Twilight, are you sure about this? You're like a big sister to me” Spike said.You leave out the important, but awkward, moment when Twilight says, "Let's fuck." That's a key moment for characterization and plotting, and you really really do not want to skip it. I realize that this is porn, but those are part of the build-up and can be important even in porn.Characterization returns here:>Then without thinking Twilight kissed Spike.But this plot thread is immediately dropped in favor of more sex. Which is almost fine. It's porn, so you don't need a romance plot. The problem is the final joke:>“Anypony want to volunteer for another demonstration?” Spike asked.>“SPIKE!”This joke requires characterization because Twilight's exclamation could mean several different things depending on her exact relationship with Spike. I think the intended meaning is, "Spike, that's an inappropriate suggestion." That meaning requires her to feel responsible for, maybe motherly toward, him. It takes on a different meaning if their relationship is now romantic; she might feel offended that they've just gotten together and he's already cheating. Either way, it gets funnier if they have more characterization.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/392800/celestial-secret4/10. Celestia hosts a meeting of that secret agency from the fanservice episode. This was a really weird one. It felt like it was part of a -verse as there were references to things I'd never heard of, but it doesn't seem to be. Felt almost like an AU given how canon would be brought up, then seemingly contradicted in the next sentence (hello again, Truth or Dare). Everyone's characterization also felt off, which only enhanced that AU feeling. Daring's role was very minor. Her character tag wasn't really needed.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/390686/daring-do-and-the-mask-of-the-windigo3/10. Daring and a zebra OC go on an adventure to stop a witch doctor. This was a pretty standard short adventure oneshot. The length, as always, really hurt the plot. The climax especially suffered the fate of being so rushed, you can hardly call it a climax. There were also numerous spelling and grammar errors in it. Classic amateurish oneshot.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/397501/daring-do-and-ahuizotls-revenge5/10. Daring and Somnambula must thwart Ahuizotl evil plan. Another in the short adventure genre (even though there's no adventure tag). This one definitely needed some juice. It was just kind of boring. The adventure stuff wasn't that exciting and the comedy tag was almost nonexistent. Couple that with the lack of any shipping subtext or anything and it just wasn't that entertaining of a read.>>43660009>a clear sign of the writer not trusting his own writing skillsReminds me of all these Daring fics that tack on a scene of Dash writing the story at the end, like they're hedging that their comedy/porn can just be written off by the readers as a bad story Dash wrote.>>43660391>phone writingHow are you going to see what you're writing? Are you really so passionate about writing that portability is a concern? I've found it virtually impossible to write when not in my "home" setting.>any suggestionsIf you're absolutely deadset on it, I'd say to skip the cheap tablet ones and get a nicer 60%, like a Keychron or similar, though then you gotta figure out how to mount the phone. My real rec is to check your local college's surplus auctions for a 5 year old business laptop. You can usually get them for $80-$200. Might need to pirate Windows or descend into FOSS insanity for the OS, though.>>43662231>0 commentsThat's very typical these days and not just on Fimfic. It's seemingly across the board. A decade ago, fetish art on Deviantart would get 15+ comments. Now, the same guy only gets 3. Same amount of favorites/views, just almost no comments. Something weird happened in the last fifteen years and people just don't leave comments anymore.
>>43662400>Something weird happened in the last fifteen years and people just don't leave comments anymore.I blame lolcow "culture" for this. I'd expect they don't want some loser to pore over their posting history in an attempt to make them the next big cow all because of some comment they wrote.
>>43662400>Something weird happened in the last fifteen years and people just don't leave comments anymore.Horrendous moderation on almost every fanfic/art site (including giving authors the ability to prevent people from posting on their works in many cases) combined with nightmarish toxic positivity cliques worshipping the ground author's walk on because they see anyone giving any criticism no matter how mild or beneficial as a direct threat to the fic continuing. It's in large part a function of the move to discord/etc. which coincides with the rise of monetized fanworks; patreons are best filled up by having a community rather than producing content, so it's more about having a big hugbox discord, which means keeping the whiniest bitches pleased leads to getting paid, and the whole thing latched onto sites because naturally the most popular creators have both the most financial incentive to keep inside party lines (and most of them have classically had interplay, so they get pressed into a united bloc) while also having the most sway over the sites hosting their stuff.Basically the same thing that happened with Derpi, but it was the whole internet. Derpi just might have been a bit earlier and more public because poni stuff is pretty forward thinking and ahead of the game for the most part.
Am I the only one who sometimes searches through FiMFiction and just take a quick look at old stories from a decade ago? I don't know why I do it when it makes me sad. Maybe it's because of all the unfinished stories and authors that haven't been online since then? Or because it makes the site seem dead compared to now? I don't think it is, I think it's actually still pretty active for such an old MLP site. Admittedly, I didn't even know about FiMFiction until 2019, when the show ended.
Does anyone have recs for good fics with victorian/steampunk aesthetic? Read the mare who once lived on the moon recently and I loved the setting.
>>43662816Try https://www.fimfiction.net/story/380494/the-unicorn-and-the-crowVery underrated.
So is the corpse dead yet?
>>43662892>"Dear [username]">"Sincerely yours, [author name]"Why are Fimfic users like this?
>>43663165In this case I think it's par the course for the style the fic (well, the book by the length of it) is written in.Heavyweight, ornate, antiquated.
>>43663139i don't think so, but based on how it's been going so far, i would like a progress report from the current writer.
https://rentry.co/p89sfisehow it looking prose-wise
>>43662400>Something weird happened in the last fifteen years and people just don't leave comments anymore.Although >>43662543 may have a point, I also think the general increase in censorship, moderation and an closed Internet paradigm is also to blame. A creator is more likely to post/link to content in a private Discord and gets various small chat responses there, rather than a public forum with permanent comments. Like >>43662551 said.Maybe I'll make a more of a concerted effort to leave a good comment on FIMfiction.>>43662395Oh wow, was it that easy to figure out? Thanks a lot for everything here, I sincerely appreciate it!Edited the story and made a bunch of changes based on your comment. Tried to catch things during editing but in all honesty I had a really bad case of just-get-it-done-itis.But yeah, a lot of the awkwardness and character development is cheated because it's a comedy clopfic. Starting in medias res was a way to avoid establishing a setting or specific setup so when it comes at the end it's a twist.You are a gentleman (gentlestallion?) and a scholar and I sincerely appreciate the insightful critique. Any writer would be lucky to have you as a critic.I do have a question for the thread about what reads better though. I see commas and punctuation as pauses, so for punchy or fast paced dialog I think it works better without them. Like for instance:"Hi," said Spike eagerly.vs."Hi" said Spike eagerly.Thoughts from the thread on what reads better? Admittedly in that case "Hi!" might be the best, but regardless I think the second reads faster and therefore is better for something faster paced like a sex scene.
>>43663198Since I got a good comment I'm paying it forward, but be aware these are the thoughts of an amateur out of his depth:First of all, nice use of italics both for emphasis and for the nametag. It works well for making specific words more impactful and sets the nametag text apart nicely.Something that stood out is there's a lot of emdashes and ellipses. I don't think there's anything necessarily wrong with that, it just stood out. It does add a lot of long pauses to the parts of the story that use them.Bonus points for using a semi-colon correctly.The biggest thing that stands out to me prose-wise is the writing is solid but feels passive. The aforementioned ellipses and such, ending sentences with prepositions, plus the very academic tone and pacing make it feel more passive and detached than it seems like a first person narrative should. For instance:"The taste of iron on my tongue shocked me out of my thoughts, startlingly so. The sensation was just so strange against my taste buds I had to fight off the sudden urge to dry heave. A portion of my pony-brain vehemently abhorred the taste of blood on a primal level; nothing constant exposure couldn't fix in time. I’d work this new flesh to suit my needs."Like that's a very "tell, don't show" way of doing that scene, where instead of the showing the character actually physically dry heaving reflexively he just thinks about feeling it. And it's ironic that you have the line about being shocked out of his thoughts but then he just goes right on narrating afterwards.But I feel like I'm missing a lot of context having not seen Chapter 1. With all the talk of suicide, describing a body as "new flesh" and this kind of emotionally detached tone, is the main character supposed to be a sociopath? Or some kind of inhuman thing? That's how it seems to come across.Also the title makes it sound like a comedy but then the writing is very non-comedic, not sure if that's an intentional juxtaposition or not.Overall you're still probably a better writer than me though, again seems like solid writing just academic and a lot of telling with the main characters' thoughts instead of showing with action, which isn't necessarily bad if that's the tone you're going for.
>>43663426>a body as "new flesh" and this kind of emotionally detached tone, is the main character supposed to be a sociopath? Or some kind of inhuman thingIt's meant to be a somewhat dif take on an HiE. Trying to tap into how... disjointed you would feel taking on a body that already had an owner. (Hence the disconnection and referring to Marsh Mirage as a separate entitiy)Puttin' it short, going from a 3D experience to a weird mix between the two and shoved into an alien body really force a boy to drink and drink>Too much tell than showUnfortunately, I don't think I could tone it down on this part, since it's just stream-of-consciousness thoughOther than for the bits with other ponies I can tweak that>PassiveWell, not wrong>TitleYou a wee bit on the markerThanks for the commentary mate, it really do be a blessing; you my Hail MaryFor that Anon I told I'd be writin' a SI, this one's it
>yakutian horses only evolved over the last 800 years due to the Yakut people bringing their horses to Siberia and then leaving them to fend for themselves over the Siberian winter, causing rapid evolution and adaptation. My headcanon is that snow ponies only came into existence around the time the three tribes unified and formed equestria. Some normal ponies stayed behind in the old pony homeland for one reason or another and through unknown magic transformed themselves into snow ponies to survive the new colder environment.
>>43663370The comma goes after Hi in that example.https://owl.purdue.edu/owl/general_writing/punctuation/quotation_marks/quotation_marks_with_fiction.html
>>43663894Does that mean that bat ponies used to be some sort of earth pony that had hands growing out the side of their back?
>>43663894Change "yakutian" for "yakubian" and you get a hilarious creation myth.
>>43663978>That's it, I'm creating unicorns!
>>43648631I've been reading some fics over the past month and wanted to thank the Anon who prepared the starter kit. I came back to pony after 12 years, and if it weren't for your recommendation list, I would probably have started off by reading FimFiction's top stories and gotten bored quickly. I was basically starting from zero, since back in the good ol' days, being an unitelligent, hormonally inbalanced middle-schooler, I only read the most notorious splatterfics (I recall a heated discussion on Rainbow Factory with my equally obnoxious desk neighbor) and some run-of-the-mill clopslop stories (fortunately, I didn't discuss those at school).I haven't read much yet, but so far I've especially enjoyed Circles and Carousel; maybe it's the spooky season getting to me, even though it's not particularly pronounced in my country. Circles pretty much speak for themselves, so I won't dwell on them too much. The whole story made me feel more melancholy than fear, although the "it's been standing right behind you the whole time" reveal was really well-done and took me by surprise, even though it felt completely natural in hindsight.Carousel is more subdued in scale, but I honestly liked it even more, which might stem from the fact that I'm probably a Rarifag in the making. I keep getting impressed by her episodes and have to agree with Larson that she's probably the deepest character among Mane 6. As evidenced by the show itself, there's a lot that can be done with her: she lends herself easily (:just:) to various narratives and can fit a variety of roles in a story. It's not even surprising that she works so well as a protagonist of a paranoia-fuelled horror story, especially since the whole conflict plays off her elemental virtue. Really good stuff.I don't see Past Sins in the recommendation list and was wondering whether it's worth checking out? I recall it being pretty big when I was in the old fandom; it even received a translation into my native language, but I never got around to reading it. It seems like it still has some influence, so maybe it's worth checking out even as just a curiosity?
>>43664042>We should kill Earth Ponies>AGREED
>>43664098honestly though, what good are mudhorses?
>>43664086Past Sins is okay, there's some retarded not quite OOC moments that happen to make the plot happen but it's mostly a very light slice of Life Mom Twilight thing
>>43664128They are the perfect size to fuck your horse-wife when you're away from home. Next time you see your foal born with a smaller horn than usual, remember your bloodline is being thinned out with mud.
>>43664302Satyrchads don't have this issue.
>>43663922Bat ponies were created by Grogar trying to make sexy vampire goth mares to act has his minions/servents/lovers but abandoned the project and left them to fend for themselves in the wild after he developed a hate boner for gusty the great.
>>43661796>>43661818I still see Doomfister using it regularly.
Why does fimfiction delete notifications so damn quickly. Also wish there was a way to read expunged stories. Some good ones get deleted and are gone forever.
I’m generally an anthro story writer but I have a regular pony story I’m writing, what are some thing that would give me away as an anthro writer?
>>43664851I want to say height? Maybe mentioning them grabbing stuff with hands?The truth is that a lot of people won't even notice the difference unless if they check for the tag
>>43664855Yeah but I see stories with anthro in the tags generally have fewer views so I would think people do care.
>>43664851Shoulders instead of withers. (Actually not much of a giveaway, it's pretty common. But I always think "wait, was there an anthro tag?" when I see it.)>fewer viewsI like horsey ponies personally. Don't know about others but maybe that's one reason.
>>43664851A lot of basic stuff gets a pass as baked in cartoon logic: blushing despite fur, hugging despite quadrupeds, feline flexibility, tool use, etc. Then one step up from that, there's the more grey area of physical position and action descriptions. Like crossing forelegs, sitting in chairs, resting chin on hoof. Things that could be written off as cartoon logic, but could also be the author blithely writing for human characters without bothering to translate. Anatomical terms. Withers, barrel, flank, fetlock, and croup are the common terms used in pony stories, though there's a lot more horse anatomy words that never broke into the collective vocabulary of fanfic writing as far as I've seen.Maybe human-centric figures of speech like "all hands on deck" "turn your back on" etc.You can earn a lot of leeway by leaning a bit away from cartoon logic and doing minor world building around quadrupedal life. Cushions and low tables instead of human chairs, less utensils for eating, push doors without door knobs, more mouth use for tools, horsey behaviors, etc. You don't have to go full rational with it, but the kind of people who would judge you for anthro writing will worship you for irrelevant minutia like that. And thinking about that stuff is probably a good way to avoid anthro-isms in the first place.
>>43664928a lot of what you recommend doing goes against what we see in the show though.
>>43664966He was asking how to make the story better, though, not how to slavishly follow episode transcript verbiage.
>>43664978some would argue that needlessly contradicting canon makes a story worse.
>>43664978weren't you arguing in favor of absolute adherence to what we see in the show just last thread?
>>43664980They should learn to recognize the difference between needlessly and beneficially.>>43664984No, but I remember one poster was acting like I was, even when the post of mine they referenced explicitly demonstrated the opposite.
>>43664851Not everyone is as based as we are. Some solid advice here already, though. Definitely look up horse anatomy, re-watch the show, do a pass on the story once it's drafted, and ideally hand it to a pre-reader afterward.>>43664905Horses have shoulders, too.
>>43665296>Horses have shoulders, too.
>>43664851Whatever you do don't have Pinkie grab Twilight's big boobs and start playing with her puffy inverted nipples, okay? That's a dead giveaway.
>>43665308That's so fucking jarring. You should be banned for posting this.
>>43648652>So it doesn't fall into generic harem fantasy of either super dominant male getting ALL the maresHow it works with equines in nature btw
>>43665417I didn't realize that little horsies controlled the heavens and managed the weather irl tooI'll have to remember to pay tribute to the local petting zoo to show my appreciation
>>43665417>>43665485Actual horse heat is kinda absurd for Equestria if you think about it enough. It's why I roll my eyes when I see it bandied around in fics. They have marriage, and I don't think Cadance let everypony rut her before she had Flurry.
>>43665498But bro... how am I going to have sex in Equestria without a Heat Season?
>>43665498No, she just let Shining Armor hit it with a birth control spell applied.
>>43648652>I really can't imagine anything that doesn't have at least some sort of typical "sexual male fantasy" component somewhere in there.Because that is reality. To some degree it all boils down to the strong male gets the female. It's in your genes, it's horse's genes, it's powering whatever makes you worry about "sexual male fantasy" components.>>43650494>>run of the mill standard mammalian reproduction>Headcanon.Said by Faust word for word.>>43665485I'd ask you to not be obtuse but after reading further down the thread I see you're just cognitively challenged. Pinkie really doesn't deserve your bred of flaggots.>>43665498I wasn't even considering heat when I brought how equines work in nature. It was more an argument on why polygyny isn't that crazy for them. The concept is used in fics mostly as an excuse for sex though, but personally I'm more interested in how they would work around it rather than "sex sex sex".>I don't think Cadance let everypony rut her before she had Flurry.She totally did but Cadance's sluttery aside actual horse heat indeed doesn't fit neatly with what we see in the show viewed through the lens of an audience of culturally monogamous apes. Faust confirmed ponies have sex but not if they had estrus, so it depends on how you want to interpret "run of the mill". And that only depends on whether or not you want to have estrus or not.
>>43664928Got a pic with labels for the no odd anatomical terms?I love expanding custom loreI had a story with “all” female Pegasai being flat chested or “aerodynamic”, which had nothing to do with the story other than explain just how big(er than average) this Pegasus tits was. It’s great when the made up lore makes sense and fit together like puzzle pieces .
>>43663195Don't worry, I'm alive and gonna finish the chapter before next Thursday
>>43665634>Got a pic with labels for the no odd anatomical terms?This is decent, but it's Wikipedia, so double-check what it tells you:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equine_anatomy
>>43665557>Said by Faust word for word.So, headcanon. Unless you think pegasi shitstorms are also hard canon, in which case you're still wrong but at least consistent. Please stop being a retarded faggot.
>>43665637Reminder that going by IRL horse anatomy and measurements a mare's cervix is about 14cm (5.5 inches) from the vulva.
>>43665639Actually I think you should do as >>43651197 told you to do.
>glance at the sin binhttps://www.fimfiction.net/story/595987/diplomatic-relations>While on a diplomatic mission far to the east, Princess Twilight Sparkle, and Pinkie Pie end up in the harem of a grest, desert lord.>grest
>>43665673Is the desert lord at least a swarthy human male or is he like a Saddle Arabian? I'd rather be an Arab.
>>43665673The grest were a really underused race in the show.
>>43665651Sorry you didn't get to write on the show or whatever lolPlease stop pushing your headcanon as if it means anything to anyone else though
>>43663370>I see commas and punctuation as pausesSometimes.>You can if you please omit commas sometimes.>You can, if you please, omit commas, sometimes.Other commas cannot be omitted. These commas tell the reader how the sentence is structured. Here a comma is necessary because it tells the reader that the sentence contains two independent clauses connected using a conjunction:>She kissed him, and he kissed back.Dialogue is another place where commas are necessary:>"Hi," said Spike eagerly.>"Hi yourself," said Twilight Sparkle.>"Hi" said Spike eagerly.>"OHMYGODWHATAREYOUDOINGYOULEFTOUTACOMMA," screamed Twilight, who had a heart attack and died.If you want overwhelming detail, look up the Cambridge Grammar of the English Language's chapter on punctuation.
>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/398805/spearing-the-sky5.7/10. Bored of paperwork, Spitfire sets off on an adventure to find out what happened to a nest of phoenixes. I had high hopes for this one, as the two other Daring-Spitfire fics I've really made me want more of the dynamic. Sadly, this is another mistag. Daring barely shows up and definitely shouldn't have been tagged. Spitfire's characterization is a little strange. She gets almost weepy while trying to help the phoenixes, which seems to run counter to her general hardass persona she has. I do rather like the idea of another story butting into the finale of a Daring adventure fic, I just wish it hadn't been Spitfire and she could have been in the actual Daring fic.>end>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/406702/daring-do-and-the-changelings-crown7.5/10. In the EAW timeline, before the autism fully pops off, Daring enters changeling-occupied territory to retrieve a changeling artifact. I was very skeptical of this one due to that EAW setting, but I pressed on. It actually ended up a very solid "standard" Daring adventure oneshot. The pacing was good. The tone was good. Had a real WW2 military spy infiltration vibe to it. And the EAW stuff didn't seem to interfere much. If the author hadn't mentioned it, I don't know if I would have made the connection.>>43662683I've just gone through the entire Daring tag. Made me genuinely melancholic seeing entire pages of results from 2012 that are deadfics. Then you click on the author and they've been gone for a decade or, even worse, just logged in yesterday, but haven't posted a fic since 2015 and are doing anime review blog posts now.> I didn't even know about FiMFiction until 2019You got in just at the end. I feel like 2020 was when the real crash started happening, I think that's the last time a lot of people logged in, probably from the combination of IRL political drama infesting the site and the show ending the previous year causing people to drift away.>>43663198Why does he need to immediately report to the government that he's staying in Ponyville when he gets there and then sign a visitation form? I this some kind of weird dystopian AU?>>43664086>Past SinsIt's a 6/10. Major flaw is the characterization gets wonky at times (to the point there was a big rewrite to try and fix Celestia, with mixed results). For the history and zeitgeist impact, I'd recommend reading it. Then you can join the Nyx argument the next time there's one.>>43664847>read expunged storieshttps://foalfetch.nethttps://www.fimfiction.net/user/116950/Fimfarchive>>43664851Using hands, feet, elbow (even though that's technically anatomically correct), etc. makes me check to see if I fell into the Tag Anon cover art trap. >>43664928>blushing despite fur, hugging despite quadrupeds, feline flexibility, tool use>crossing forelegs, sitting in chairs, resting chin on hoofAll of this is canon and will 100% not be noticed by readers.
>>43665730>Why does he need to immediately report to the government that he's staying in PonyvilleNever been on the registry?
>>43665296I'm thinking of when writers say things like "Anon put his hand on Twilight's shoulder" and similar.
>>43665730>Why does he need to immediately report to the government that he's staying in PonyvilleAlright to give some context, it is an SI HiE where I was implanted into a random body that was already headed to PonyvilleI wouldn't know where to go, and it's what I'd doGonna make my terrible traits really show in this shit 'cause character development is the truth to seek for>infection austrangely enough none of these hit the featured box
>>43666187No, it's not strange.
>>43665717Thoroughly appreciate comments like this, especially when they're written so well, and so clever and amusing.I've always felt my usual writing style (which is more like the sentence above) has too many commas and doesn't flow well for a narrative work. I was deliberately trying to write something faster paced, but I understand it does still need to be comprehensible to readers. Will take that into account when I write my next one which I hope I can make myself do.>>43665730It's fun to read your reviews too. Is it okay to ask for a link to the Daring Do fic you wrote?
>>43666187>strangely enough none of these hit the featured boxThank God.
>>43665717Just give him the old Elements of Style>https://ia601500.us.archive.org/26/items/pdfy-2_qp8jQ61OI6NHwa/Strunk%20%26%20White%20-%20The%20Elements%20of%20Style%2C%204th%20Edition.pdf
>>43665730>even worse, just logged in yesterday, but haven't posted a fic since 2015 and are doing anime review blog posts now.That's not worse, at least you can ask them how they would've ended it or if they're maybe still planning to end it 10 years later (some people do lol)
>>43666187Infection AUs aren't prominent on fimfic because they are for tiktok kids who can't read
>>43666250What's an Infection AU?
I was fifteen years old when my father decided to murder me.If you are some busybody historian, or nosey prick that has somehow gotten hold of this journal, hungry for the defining moment that pushed me towards the journey of becoming the Evil Overlord I am today, then that would have to be it. If not for my father’s wish to be done with another meagre mouth to feed, my fate probably would’ve followed the usual of saroths like myself; toiling away at the soil until I became one with it.Evil Overlords such as myself are usually shrouded in mystery and mystique when it comes to our origins. Usually, by the time you hear about us we’re already at the height of our malevolent power, enacting the most terrible of deeds — toppling kingdoms, or the casual closing of the door in the face of another pony.Truth is, the reason why there aren’t too many of us running around is because they’re dead. As I’m sure you know, it is hard to be an Evil Overlord when you’re buried below tons of dirt and soil and have your essence as one with The Great Root.Unless if you’ve found a way to live from beyond the grave, or most dreadfully — I actively shiver as I write this — decided to become undead. Want to know why there aren’t any longstanding Undead Evil Overlords? Turns out that when your brand of magic is near-universally associated with evil, ponies and critters from all around are well equipped to deal with it.I suppose my first lesson to you is to always consider doing the unexpected.Luckily for me, I’ve been doing that ever since the beginning of my journey to Evil Overlordhood (there will be more on this at a later lesson). There are Evil Overlords that have been trapped in some magical prison for a few thousand moons until freed by circumstance or some stumbling idiot, but for the most part, our past remains the same to the ill-informed. Filled with mystic messages and ill-omened events that just-so-happened to occur at the right time, the misguided hoof of destiny leading us to our triumph and eventual defeat.All utter hogwash.Myself? I was born to a poor earthpony farmer on a farm — surprising, I know — at a little corner of Equestria widely referred to as Celestia’s Respite. Usually followed with bellowing, mocking laughter. I didn't come into Equestria as Shell the Unsparing; that wouldn’t be for quite, quite, quite a while. For the youthful years of my life, I was Shell Stinger, Shelly the Runt, halosēsor, mid-born children in a set of eleven.Does this work hookwise? As in, would you continue reading from this
>>43666254Brother it is in the name.AUs featuring some magical quasi-zombie outbreak. Popular with kids on TikTok.
>>43666312Having a strong opening line like that is the essence of a hook, yes. I really hate how gimmicky all media is becoming, but you succeeded at exactly what everyone including college writing professors say to do which is to hook the audience in the first sentence or first five words or whatnot.Not the kind of story I'd be interested in continuing reading personally, but seems like an effective setup regardless.
>>43666254It's an alternate universe where we infect you with pony AIDS
>>43666490I though that was every /fimfic/ con meeting.
Other than Lovecraft's works what are some good books to read to get an idea of how to write cosmic horror and eldritch unknowable stuff?
>>43666544Uh...Lord Dunsany?There was another one, but I forgot his name. I have a collection of cosmic horror stories. I'll have to look it up.
>>43666597Thanks, I appreciate it
>>43665557>culturally monogamous apes.A "strongest male takes all the mares" kind of herding doesn't fit into Equestria either, where ponies are super social and kindness prevails. A super strong harem based reproductive strategy doesn't overall really work with highly intelligent and social species. Think about chimps and bonobos. During the generations, when cognitive abilities of those rose and they realised monkeys together=strong, they slowly wiped those strong herders out of the gene pool thus generating different kind of social structure. An >inb4 somebody complains yeah, both chimps and bonobos are violent as fuck, unlike poners. But why would a weak, meek stallion participate into society at all if all avenues of reproduction are blocked for him? And after generations when those stallionlet turbovirgin genes have been pushed off, are all stallions just gigachads? It doesn't seem like it.The fantasy world of Equestria itself is the biggest component against just raw, strong natural selection explanation.
Who's going to bake?
>>43666716Damn this thread went by fast. I still don't know what the next clubfic is. I've just been going through the list minus stars so they are all so short.
>>43666597Clark Ashton Smith?>>43666544Honestly, you should just read Gothic fiction, because Lovecraft was influenced by it and expands and builds up on it.
>>43666312Would I continue reading? I guess...First sentence is a big red flag for me though. Why can't we have normal family problems like "dad worked hard and I didn't see him much"? Everyone jumps straight to maximum edge all the time.Other than that it's pretty good. One nitpick: You say at the beginning that it's a journal, but it reads more like a how-to guide and autobiography. I would expect a journal to deal more with day-to-day events and planning. But maybe the protagonist just loves the sound of his own monologuing, which would be perfectly in line with being an evil overlord.
>>43666544Try Dying Earth series by Vance.It is not exactly cosmic horror (Cugel the Clever books are even picaresque), but very much eldritch and unknowable.You'll be recommended King in Yellow, but its strength is in the multitude of autists trying to interpret it, not exactly in the primary source.Try https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4840f48V8iE if you can tolerate jeets. Feral, sadly, is not the only one in this conversation.Try reading Derleth and figuring out why it doesn't work for him (despite him being quite a talented writer and being a legit superfan of Lovecraft).
>>43666743The story would work out with a small introductory portion at start, and then I go into the actual day-by-day stuff>Why edge nowGotta hook and reel in those readers
>>43666758>You'll be recommended King in Yellow, but its strength is in the multitude of autists trying to interpret it, not exactly in the primary source.I think that The Repairer of Reputations and The Yellow Sign are pretty solid, but overall I liked the love stories more than the horror ones, which probably puts me in the minority. Still, Chambers is nothing to write home about; lucky for him that most of the people who try to carry on his legacy never read him.
>>43666727>Damn this thread went by fast.Time flies when you're debating horse gender roles.
>>43660394If you're going to own a tablet you may as well just write on the tablet itself.
>>43666798This description is fucking flooring me because I'm imagining Pinkie doing shit like giving Cheese a present with a boxing glove on a spring inside or throw a pie at him that has a brick baked into it.
>>43662551>nightmarish toxic positivity cliques worshipping the ground author's walk on because they see anyone giving any criticism no matter how mild or beneficial as a direct threatDisney is directly behind this btw.
>>43666896A life of misery where every single thing he touches is pranked so he tries to sit as still as possible crying to himself while Pinkie's laughter echoes through the house
(Tablet doesnt have auto correct so bare with typos and syntax errors)While Fimfiction definitely has some advantages over ao3, such as having cover art, i think some of the criticism with ao3 tags are a bit misleading.>>43657846There is a filter bottom right where you can set a minimum and maximum word count for your search.>>43657530The same goes for crossover slop, there is a filter where you can exclude all crossovers or even get only crossovers. With this, ao3 also has 'parent tags', where similar concepts will still link back to a main tag, so all the niche blowjob tags will still show up if you put in just blowjob, but the niche ones can still be filtered individually.>>43657758As someone who reads on an old tablet, I cant use this technique cause I cant see groups in a stories description. Instead I have to swap to desktop mode, which is an ugly ui for my tablet. But even with groups, you cant really sort them besides the folder the stories are put in. So if you check a big group like "Clopfics" and go into the folder "Anthropomorphic" you can only sort those 2000+ stories by "Date Added", "Date Updated", and "Rating". So if your looking for a specific fetish it is basically useless cause there is no further way to search with tags or anything else. Sure you can try and find a more specific group like "Luna x Twilight", but you have to hope they actually did their folders correctly and didnt dump them all into folders labeled "safe" and "explicit".Also, ao3 does have groups, though you have to click the story first to see what collection it is in. From that collection though you can still use normal tags and search once you click on a series tag.
>>43666758>despite him being quite a talented writer and being a legit superfan of LovecraftDerleth is a really nice example of "fan of something writes fanfiction of it that completely misses the point."
>>43666727>I still don't know what the next clubfic is.The ones in >>43658468As for next next week, we'll see.
>>43666967Oh Okay. I wasn't sure what to put in the OP. Got it.
Fimfic's greatest advantage is that, unlike AO3, it's currently online.
Who bakingWho baking?WHO BAKING?
>>43667106Me. I already pre-heated the oven.
>>43667106Will you want fries with that?
>>43667114You fry fries, you don't bake them.
>>43667207>>43667207>>43667207
>>43666519No, there’s nothing alternate about those universes.
