First for HIE!

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Second for best 2uo!
Enjoy this conveniently packaged Tuna: https://www.fimfiction.net/story/470601/the-dreamwalkers-lament

AI
HIE
Futa
We are worse than real books
Tuna is a good ship
*Bible passage*
Foalcon is bad

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>>43606995
>We are worse than real books
I'm not here because I want real books. I'm here because I want horse books. About horses, ideally kissing.

>>43606995
Hey man don't give the whole thread away. We still have to spread it out for four hundred and ninety five more posts.

I don’t think I have ever seen a fic that had chapters that are often longer than about 15k words that was actually good.

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>>43607162 >>43607184

>>43607018
We can go further than that.

>>43607013
We are castaways living on an island and all we have left to eat is tuna and the flesh of our fellow man. And we all got sick of tuna a long time ago.

>>43607026
>All we have left is the aforementioned flesh
I see you, Pinkamena.

>>43607023
There was some story with a chapter that was over 100,000 words but I can’t remember the name.

There is no reason not to upload your entire story as a single chapter on fimfiction.

>>43607023
To be fair that was originally a multi-chapter story that the author decided to rewrite. It was also terrible.

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>>43607269

I haven't looked at fimfics since reading most of the good ones and moving onto chinese/korean webnovels. Have any quality fanfics over 20k words been made in the past 5 years or so?

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>>43607263
Yes

>>43606208
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/198843/for-whom-we-are-hungry
There are a ton of "lone changeling surviving after the wedding" fics. This is the only one that stuck with me. Short and sweet with some interesting worldbuilding. Complete 15k words.

>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/174129/the-changeling-of-the-guard
Loveable dumbass changeling exiled from the hive goes on to find a new life in the royal guard. Takes place over a very long period of time. Probably the most popular changeling story? 260k, technically ongoing but posting like a chapter a year.

>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/480268/changing-expectations
The HiE as a changeling one. Interesting world building, large scale conflict, pretty solid overall and better than most HiE. Very long with a direct sequel still in progress, collectively like 750k words.

>>43606995
Tuna is a dumb ship
Sunset x Luna makes the most sense. I can't really see any character besides Sunset or Celestia spanking Luna and Celestia wouldn't enjoy doing it. Certainly not anypony else from the main/Canterlot cast that Luna wouldn't quickly come to hate.

So where's your Dragonriders of Pern crossover?

>>43607519
Ember riding me in a bed at someplace called Pern? I dunno, I've never read Dragonriders of Pern.

You know I never got the Displaced genre and I mean the mechanics of the Displaced genre. They apparently had tokens that they used to do crossover fanfiction? Disregarding their quality it was just bizarre

>>43607605
Wait until you see Chess Game of the Gods.

>>43607461
You spank your aunt?

>>43607678
No, but Sunset could and Luna would definitely get off to being spanked by her niece
(it's unlikely they're related anyway)

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>>43608255 >>43608797 >>43610329 >>43631199 >>43631647

Finished the final bit of the Traveling Tutor series. In the final one, Twilight is pregnant. This is a problem, because her fiancé is a dirty filthy fucking earth pony and she's now a princess.

But you wouldn't really notice any of this because it spends a good chunk (like at least a third of the story) on the author's griffon political headcanons. Seriously. This isn't a "Twilight got knocked up and has to navigate court" fic, it's a Griffon Politics fic. Apparently these characters are all from ANOTHER series completely unrelated to Twilight fucking her disgusting mudhorse husband-to-be while all the fair and well-bred Canterlot nobility faint in shame, but I haven't read that. The other half of the story focuses on Twilight's new royal secretary and Celestia's new royal secretary, who want to fuck each other. However Celestia's secretary is a unicorn (and thus a racist) and Twilight's secretary is a pegasus so there's some friction there.

To be honest I kind of like Green Grass and Twilight in this. Now that the requisite romcom bullshit is out of the way they're actually cute together. There's chemistry there and I actually enjoyed their bits out of most of it, but it all takes a back seat to FUCKING GRIFFON POLITICS.

On top of that the main conflict (other than GRIFFON POLITICS) is Blueblood and other nobility trying to undermine/stop the wedding between Twilight and her disgusting good-for-nothing probably-poor dirtstallion boyfriend. Because all these people somehow think that messing with the extremely powerful neurotic goddess who is also supported by a family of other extremely powerful horse gods is somehow even remotely a good idea?

Same as the others. I like his prose, I like his dialogue, the man cannot pace or plot his way out of a paper bag. He's probably an earth pony.

>>43608185
are the griffon politics interesting at least?

>>43608255
When are griffon politics EVER interesting?

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>>43608367

Fics for this feel?

>>43608315
The one where Luna is tortured by the Tantabus and gets the bad end

>>43608367
Is that the one where the Tantabus turns into a fetus and impregnates her with itself to stop her from being evil?

>>43608422
Ok what fic is this

>>43608185
>He's probably an earth pony.
That explains why Twi gets with a male oc earth pony I guess

>>43608797
No one else can keep up with an autistic alicorn's libido. Shining Armor can only fuck his wife into the bricks because he's built like one.

>>43608810
The only thing that can keep up with an autistic alicorn's libido, is another autistic alicorn

>>43608828
How come Luna loves dragging me to bed then?

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>>43608828
So you're saying Sunburst/Twilight is endgame?

>>43608756
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/304810/tantabus-do-your-worst

How do I resist the urge to make a scene funny (because I don't want it to be funny?)

>>43608921
Write the funny version of the scene first. Then write the serious version of the scene and use that.

>>43608931
Shit, that's actually helpful. Thanks.

>>43608921
Write the funny version first, then rewrite it and take the funny bits out.

>>43608931
Fuck, I got sniped while doing the captcha.

Quiet Rune Scribe about to pass 2k likes, somehow.

>>43609136
Somehow? I think you know how: By being generic trash that updates in a regular schedule.

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>>43611370

What fics would Jeremy Bentham like?

>suspect a fic is AI
>look inside
>too many grammatical errors everywhere
Phew, false alarm.

>>43609446
Don’t worry guys, it’s just regular slop.

>>43609446
AI writing CLEARS humanslop.

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>>43607519
https://www.fimfiction.net/stories?q=pern

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/40211/jungle-tricks

6/10. After a grueling journey through the jungle, Daring arrives at a remote village to meet with her contact. Fairly standard comedy oneshot. The narrator's really weird and flowery at the start, which throws off the tone a bit. I think the author was shooting for a comedy subversion thing where it starts as a "serious" adventure oneshot before the road punchline hits. It's okay, but the comedy still missed for me.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/35910/daring-do-bakes-a-cake

6.5/10. Daring has dinner with her mom. Family drama ensues. Fimfiction indicated that not only have I already read this one, but I upvoted it. It must have been back in 2012, because I have absolutely no memory of it. On the second pass, I would not have upvoted it. It's not terrible, but not upboat worthy. I'm just not a fan of family drama. It also has a weird foundational plothole where Daring quit her job as an archeologist because it's too boring and not adventurous enough when six paragraphs earlier the narrator was talking about the ancient idol she got from a volcano temple guarded by dragons. What the fuck are you talking about, Daring?

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/14702/dare-to-be-awesome

5.5/10. Daring wraps up her latest adventure. Didn't like this one that much. there wasn't anything structurally wrong with it. The subversive ending just made it feel kind of pointless and mean as a short oneshot. Would have worked better as the opening to a longer fic.

>>43606995
I still miss the airship era of the thread.

>>43608185
>Griffon Politics fic
Which headcanon? Standard Griffon Empire? HRE? Balkanized? Real country with a coat of tawny paint and eagle feathers?

>>43610329
I'd say standard griffon empire that's set up as an earnest political rival to Equestria.

>>43609280
OCxPinkie

>>43610385
The headcanon I have seen the most is that there was a war between equestria and a griffon empire around 500 years before the events of the show happen.

>>43612042
Might as well be ancient history. Even Celestia wouldn't hold a grudge for 500 years.

>>43612042
Griffons are just modern day Russians. They're gonna be speaking kirin in ten years.

>>43609446
Is it the chrysalis one?

Feels like this week has seen way more fics than usual

>>43613731
Good fics?

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>>43613765
Just more fics. Like more getting published. I swear last month was slow as fuck and now it feels like it's moving at a breakneck pace, and not just horror fics.

Has anyone found out the ideal posting day and time for a fic for maximum visibility?

>>43613862
Weekdays mid-afternoon.

>>43613896
Funny. I guess that's when kids/teens get out lf school and adults take their lunch break

>>43613862
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/494106/when-is-the-best-time-to-post-a-story-answered-with-science

>>43613912
Go back to watching G1 unc, mlp is a young man's game

Has anyone ever done a fic where the Cutie Map randomly picks a supporting character for a mission? Like Pinkie with Mrs. Cake or Rarity with Maud, for example.

>>43614045
Anyone done one where a complete random in another city gets his ass starting to blink and he freaks out over it?

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>>43614045
>>43614070
Are you asking if anyone else has ever figured out that you can use one of the show's most utilitarian plot devices for its intended purpose?
https://www.fimfiction.net/stories?q=%22cutie+map%22+%23original-character+&order=relevance

>>43614105
I was imagining that >>43614070 was actually about the pony freaking out over his blinking ass tattoo. Figuring it out is 50,000 words of psychological angst. When he finally learns it’s about a friendship problem, the solution takes 200 words.

>>43614070
I would also like to know if this exist as well.
>>43614105
I'm watching the anni stream (it counts as research btw) and I remembered that the Cutie Map actually doesn't have a real limit for who it can call on. Like, in the Parent Map, it summons Sunburst. Sunburst is just some guy.
Plus, the idea of a normie like Mrs. Cake being forced to take a trip halfway across the world because her mark won't stop glowing is really funny.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/stories?q=%22cutie+map%22+%23original-character+&order=relevance
None of these are really what I'm looking for so I'll have to keep this one in the pocket for now.

>>43614186
>Sunburst is just some guy.
Rude.

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>>43614197
He's some guy I like, if it makes you feel better.

>>43614197
Getting pegged by Starlight isn't something you get famous for.

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>>43614267
Only if you don't do it right.

>story starts in season 1
>pony has the capacity to have prophetic dreams
>has dream visions of many of later major and important events of the show
>gets inclination these may be prophetic
>decides to tell the princesses since if anyone would be able to tell if these were legit it would be them
>they are legit and the princesses ask him to divulge as much as he can so they can know what will happen and take necessary actions to mitigate or prevent bad shit.
>later the OC starts having more prophetic dreams about new things, some of them end up actually happening.
>actions changed history and what could happen in the future, the visions are not set in stone but can be changed of action that would change it is taken. And the prophetic vision dreams were not a one off fluke or one and done sort of thing.
>the princesses decide to keep their new seer nearby and under protection for ready and sure access to the information pertaining to whatever new dream visions he has
How could I make this work?

>>43614524
>"prophetic dream" of sex with the princesses
>he convinces them to make his dreams come true

>>43614524
>OC tells the princesses about G5
>Directly states everything Twilight does is in vain and leads to a thousand years of pony racism
>Celestia decides Twilight isn't ready for alicornhood
Heh

>>43606932
The 1000 word minimum is stupid because it promotes purple prose

>>43614583
You're an idiot.

>>43614593
See, your post would've been better as just
>Idiot
or even
>Retard
but being a fimtard has conditioned you to write more than necessary. I rest my case.

>>43614583
Encourages folks to read Glen Cook

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>>43614676

>>43614186
>>43614070
After filtering out the M6, it seems like the type of fic you're referring to is most likely to have been written about Sunset Shimmer.
My condolences.

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>>43614668
Sunset Shimmer lives in human world and has no mark on her ass.

>>43614676
False! She has NO snowpity and is UGLY and ANOREXIC!

>>43614689
>False!
So she does have a mark on her ass despite being a human?

>>43614583
It doesn't.

>>43614733
She does after I'm done with her.

>>43614733
It's called a tramp stamp.

>>43614583
Meanwhile some of my sex scenes are 10,000 words.

>>43614983
Marepussy ain't that good, spike.

man, when i joined the corpse, i worried i might not be able to reach 2k words in the deadline, being a first time writer and all. but now i'm just worried i might not be able to fit everything i want to in 3k.

>>43615947
The corpse is alive?

>>43616062
despite gold meddle's best efforts, yes, i think so. i don't think any corpse authors who haven't had their turn yet read the leaked chapter.

>>43615947
Consider writing long and then cutting. There are always things you can cut, and learning to cut makes your writing better. The result is almost always tighter and more engaging.

What was the longest teleport Twilight did pre-alicorn? I want to say the one in Dragon Quest, since I seem to remember that being the first one she did that wasn't line-of-sight.

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/34183/daring-do-and-the-accursed-atoll

6/10. As a filly, Daring must survive a shipwreck. This one's supposed to be a serious drama of Daring surviving a cruise ship disaster while her brother doesn't and she has to deal with "the accident wasn't your fault" hallucinations, but I just couldn't get past the initial premise. What the fuck were the weather teams smoking when they made that storm? And if we're pulling the "muh nature" card, then what the fuck was the captain smoking when he decided to navigate into a storm like that? The cherry on top is the engines get struck by lightning and explode, ripping the rear half of the cruise ship apart and leaving Daring the sole survivor.

This thing would have worked way better if the disaster stuff was completely excised and it was just her brother falling overboard and her failing to rescue him. As it is, it gets so over the top, it almost veers into dark comedy territory.

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/9701/daring-do-and-the-eastern-star

4.5/10. Her professorship on the line, Daring goes on an adventure to retrieve an artifact. A fairly standard short adventure, this one's a bit rough around the edges. It's got that typical fast pace and poor grammar you get from inexperienced authors. This one has a dark AU ending where Daring kills her protege to get the artifact, but it has no punch due to those bad pacing issues and the narrator seemingly not even realizing the darkness of the ending.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/12695/rainbow-writes-daring

4.5/10. Dash writes a Daring fanfic and enters it in a contest. This was another bait one where Daring appears in book form only. The story feels like it's really missing something, probably comedy. It just kind of meanders along. The plot also doesn't make much sense. What were you expecting when you turned your story in to Cheerilee, Dash? Of course it's a contest for children. That's why it needed some absurdist comedy.

>>43613862
People always say afternoon (3-8 PM EST), but I think that's wrong. You'll get crowded out by the million word HiE autist fic updates and other people that think that's the time. I contend 1 AM EST. There's way less competition, almost no fics posted so you at least sit on the homepage for hours, and if you ride the euro wave right, you can sneak into the featured box in the dead of night to get the NA wave the next day.

>>43614524
>How could I make this work?
Climatic villain who's giving the OC the magic dreams in order to manipulate the future to bring about his/her evil plan since the events of the show prevented it from happening.

>>43614583
Given how awful a lot of these sub 3k Daring oneshots have been because of rushed pacing, I'm going to call you a faggot for that.

>>43616242
>You'll get crowded out by the million word HiE autist fic update
Those have their own spot though.

>>43615947
>>43616132
Conversely, cut it off mid-scene at a random point. That should make it easy for the next person.

alright. submitted my corpse chapter. really hoping i caught all the grammatical errors.

>>43617555
If you did, then someone will accuse you of using AI.

You guys may not care for HiE. But what about PiE?

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>>43618506
What about her?

>>43618506
I read the one where Indiana Jones adopts Daring Do and that's about it.

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What if there was a crossover between pro wrestling (kayfabe treated as real) and MLP

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>>43618506
CMON AND SLAM

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John Cena (Thuganomics guy) vs Princess Celestia in a fight
Stone Cold Steve Austin (Texas Rattlesnake) vs Applejack
Kayfabe compliant Human wrestlers in Equestria

>>43618506
In most cases it's not that we don't care about HiE, it's that almost no good writers ever bother writing HiE, so instead it's almost always mediocre slop (in the pre-AI sense). It's like how isekai animes are widely derided, not because isekai is a dumb concept but because they're all shit.
There are a select few HiEs which are actually decent and well-regarded, Pirene being the canonical example I think. Message in a Bottle is also not particularly hated (Starscribe is very samey but MiB is one of his better examples).
PiE is in much the same boat as HiE and just swapping the worlds doesn't do much to save it, there's simply almost nobody with skill actually writing it.

Of course there's some people who just refuse to read stories with humans because they want only pure pony, regardless of quality, but in that case again PiE does nothing to help (in fact it makes it worse since you also remove Equestria, too).

Is there any long power fantasy HiE stories? Can be at any quality level

>>43619103
The Handyman is pretty good through.
"Break stuff" is another that comes to mind, but I didn't really get into that one

>>43619119
It's really really funny thanks for the reccomendation

I miss lusting over filly...

>>43619103
That’s most of the ones that are long.

>>43619103
Lunar Guardsman
>tfw I read the first 100k or so of it back in 2015-2016 and it's still fucking going today
I'm now morbidly curious as to what the fuck is the plotline up to now

>>43619769
I hate stories that go on forever. Even 100k is too much. Most great literature is not that long and does not need 100k words to get their point across. When I personally rate stories any story that isn't finished automatically gets a -1 and a story that is, no matter how shit, gets a +1. Stories are meant to have ends.

>>43619769
Does fimfiction even have any litrpg style power-fantasies or does someone need to step up and vomit one out

>>43619801
I agree, though I don't necessarily think length is by itself a downside. If you take a story and stretch it out for too many words, it's going to be slow, empty and bad. But if you can actually fill a long story with interesting things to tell, I'll enjoy that. Tolkien himself said that he recongised one of the main flaws of the Lord of the Rings is that it was too short, as readers just wanted more; and he expected the finished Silmarillion to be a million words (his mistake being not taking into account the effects of old age). Of course not everyone is Tolkien, and a HiE power fantasy stretched for 1M words is probably going to be of questionable enjoyment.

But I definitely agree on unfinished stories, as well as meandering stories. If you have some grand epic adventure plot for 1M words, awesome. DoWaS and FS together are 640k words and they're excellent IMO, and at no point did I wish for them to be shorter or to just get on with things. But if you are just writing infinite chapters of things vaguely happening, like the meandering arcs of DoaM (based on what I heard of it), then yeah it's just poor literature.
I am fairly certain Lunar Guardsman is of the latter kind. From what I remember of what I read a decade ago, it had inklings of a larger overarching plot, but it was glacially slow, and most stuff was just kinda the life and times of mr. human mcedgelord and Luna his edgelady waifu. I remember at the time expecting the main plot to start moving forward more after all the foreshadowing but apparently not since it's now 7x longer than back then and still going a decade later.

Another interesting case study might be Journey with a Batpony. I read about 400k of it around five years ago or so and it tickled my autism just right (I remember it as really not a bad story at all if you're not allergic to OCxTwilight shipping), and unlike DoaM or Lunar Guardsman that one had an actual clear plot that it was moving forward albeit wordily and slowly and in great detail. But I remember things moving towards some kind of denoument, and now it's grown an extra million words on top of that and I really wonder if the author still has a coherent vision in mind or if he's just lost the plot and it's become a forever story too. I originally dropped it because I wanted to wait for it to be completed rather than reading each new chapter when they came, and I definitely did not expect to have to wait for so many years.

>>43619852
Expound on what you mean. There's no shortage of power fantasies and there's no shortage of stories that are way too fucking long. Educate me on what litrpg is though

Also fuck you this talk has made me remember that series of the cheetah-man x luna self insert romance across three or four fics also spanning like a mil or something.

>>43619868
Story uses game-like mechanics as a way to show magic/setting
>Or think, The Gamer; that webtoon
>for example, level 200, mag:3, INt:4, SPD:5, etc
And by lit-rpg style I mean, there is constant feed of power being given to the MC as they "level-up" through the world

>>43619899
>game-like mechanics as a way to show magic/setting
Oh you're looking for "displaced" fics then. Which was a particular self-insert subgenre centered around the common plot device of people wearing cosplay to some convention, meeting a shady vendor and being isekaid to Equestria as their chosen character. Not all of them go as far as actually shoving in game mechanics but some definitely do.
I don't know any that focus on the MC, like, "playing" Equestria by exploring and doing quests and levelling up. But they're usually all power fantasies of some kind anyway.

>>43619103
That’s most of the hie long fics so long as your definition of power fantasy is a bit broad.

>>43619918
Oh no, not displaced
I meant like litrpgs (character unironically has a screen and pics stats, levels, etc from it) but from your answer it seems that there aren't too many of them

I asked cause they kinda dominate the webnovel game fantasy-wise so i was curious if fimfiction has some

>>43615059
They end up being that long because mare-flares are involved, and those are generally good for multiple rounds.

>>43617825
I haven't had that problem yet, probably because I have an actual style. People who blindly call anything with crisp mechanics "AI" are too stupid to bother with, at any rate.

>>43619801
I just don't read incomplete stories unless I know the author well enough to have a strong belief they'll finish it. Stories exceeding 100k words are fine so long as they have enough breadth and depth to justify the length. I'm working on something much longer, but didn't publish a word of it until I'd finished two drafts.

>>43619960
I can guarantee you there are Displaced fics where the guy then has game stats and levels them up through the fic.

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>>43620291 >>43620319 >>43620418 >>43620728 >>43620747 >>43621178 >>43622210 >>43624133

How's your writing going lately?

wait, when did gold meddle get unbanned?

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>>43620113
eh

>>43620113
I was supposed to finish a chapter today.
I have not.

>>43620113
Better. I've finally started finishing stories, even if they're just one shots. It's been a couple years since I could do that.

>>43620094
Let me rephrase: litrpg as a progression fantasy

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>>43620113
I'm juggling too many ideas again...

>>43620113
I started writing a new story even though I told myself I was taking a break to work on non-writing projects.

>>43619852
Pony Life in a Zombie World is a... lite litrpg, multi zombie game crossover, streamer fic.
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/578920/pony-life-in-a-zombie-world
A zoomer wakes up as a pony in ponified Dead Island with elements of Left 4 Dead and other zombie games. Then in actual Equestria, canon characters start finding crystals that show them a live feed of him and let's them send him messages. There's like a game inventory and a skill tree based on the Elements.

Honestly everything about the description sounds revolting and I must have been at a low point to even try reading it, but I liked it and the ongoing sequel, which pivots to something more slice of life and drops most of the game/litrpg stuff.

>>43620948
> he doesn't STAT MAX and start fighting god-level threats
Bro is fodder in the litrpg verse...
I read some of this because I was wondering why it was so popular and my thoughts are... man, stream-fics must be in demand

>>43620728
Stop juggling and start writing.

>>43620113
I've not written much of anything in a while, but I've been editing a lot.

is ZeFanficWriter one of ours?

>>43621598
That name would imply he actually writes his fanfics which no one here is capable of

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>>43621598
>ZeFanficWriter
>latest story is about Spike accidentally hurting Twilight
>last thread an anon asked if anyone had written a story about Spike accidentally hurting Twilight
>>43559679
Noticing...

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/14129/daring-do-and-the-cursed-tome

6/10. Daring helps a librarian with an evil dark magic book. By Twilight Sparkle. The first twist on the "Dash writing a Daring fanfic" genre I've seen, with Twilight taking the role. This one was okay. The Daring portion of the fic was pretty bland, but it had some nice subtle Twidash stuff at the end that was able to lift it just a little above average.

>end

>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/15971/daring-do-and-the-mysterious-goo

3.5/10. Daring gets raped by a tentacle goo monster. I don't know why I read this. I can at least now confirm I have neither a rape nor a tentacle fetish because this did nothing for me. All these pornfics just bleed together. This one felt weirdly sterile. The narrator never really did more than just coldly describe each action as it happened. A little floweriness would have at least made things a little funny. This is also the first time I've seen "femness" used to describe female genitalia.

>end

>review https://www.fimfiction.net/story/529745/daring-do-and-the-mystery-of-eternal-ruins

4/10. Daring visits some mysterious ancient ruins. This one was "translated with AI" from Spanish. The author does apparently speak it, so it might be true. Who knows. I'm not an expert on AI slop, so I couldn't tell you how "AIy" it actually was but it was pretty boring. The narrator just had no real life to him and that really dragged down the whole story. Daring's guide constantly saying "uwu" really didn't help things, either.

>>43616337
It's not really about the featured box, but eyeballs. Someone reading chapter 735 of anon fucking Twilight in a stream of consciousness narration might not have time to read the new fic that just dropped. You might have fewer people on the site in a "dead zone" time but there's also fewer fics for those eurofags that are there, making it more likely yours gets read.

>>43618667
That's the one where SCOTUS acts as a trial court for a fucking custody case, isn't it?

>>43620113
The Daring horror fic has stalled. I'm worried I won't finish it by the time the skeletons give way to turkeys. Instead, I've been working on my deadfic. I'd forgotten how fun the Twilight vs a battleship fight scene was.

>>43620198
He didn't?

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>>43621682
Was FiM fanfiction ultimately so successful just because "x, but with ponies" unblocked the timid writer? Since apparently it's a critical for to so many writers to verify that what they're writing has never been written before, or at least posted, before working up the temerity to post it themselves.
Not that all writers are afflicted by this, obviously, I'm always happy that so many authors never hesitated before posting the 20th or 30th or 40th great Tunafic. They know that there's no limit on the number of times an idea can be rehashed. But at this point, I assume that only one out of every ten fic requests here are actually about reading the fic and the rest are research for the ideas pile.

>>43622210
>court for a fucking custody case, isn't it?
Technically it's to have her legally declared human.

>>43622273
>But at this point, I assume that only one out of every ten fic requests here are actually about reading the fic and the rest are research for the ideas pile.
every single time i've asked such a question (which is a lot) has been the former.

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>>43622293
>mutts deciding who counts as human

>>43622210
>I can at least now confirm I have neither a rape nor a tentacle fetish because this did nothing for me.
You just said it's a bad text, of course it wouldn't. Or are we defining a fetish as an affinity so strong it transcends any issues of quality?
>This is also the first time I've seen "femness" used to describe female genitalia.
Any matching neologisms for tentacle parts?

>>43622675
>Fimtards are europoors

>>43622210
>>43622293
>>43622675
>>43622693
>This generation has already forgotten about the Azure Chink
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/25148/all-american-girl

>>43613788
That seems accurate. Last month was a slump compared to the ones before and this month is set to outpace it:
https://www.fimfiction.net/statistics

I should write a crossover with The Demon Headmaster.

>>43619801
Anon. If you give every unfinished story -1 and every finished story +1, then you're really giving unfinished stories a -2.

>>43620113
I fell in love with a concept but I've grown to hate my planned ending.
How bad will it be if I just finish up until what I cover what I like, publish it then wing it? Can't be worse than never doing it.

>>43624133
>I fell in love with a concept but I've grown to hate my planned ending.
Have you started writing it yet? There's a good chance a better ending will pop up as you are writing the story.
I once had a similar problem and I ended up drafting three different endings and ruminated on them for a while before picking one.

>>43624116
NTA but I do pretty much the same thing and it makes sense because a "6/10 story" is a phrase that means something. Now WHAT it means will be different from person to person, but leaving it unfinished detracts from the experience no matter what came before. Meanwhile, the sense of release from getting an ending (of any kind) to close the story is rare enough in [long]fics that it deserves an extra 'reward'.

>>43621598
Yes. So we've got at least two authors sinboxing right now.

>>43624276
Yeah I've started, though I've only done the very start so far. I guess I'll trust the process and see if I come up with something better along the way

>>43624554
>sinboxing
Is that like evil hotboxing?

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>>43625372
I have no idea how to say "you must be new here" that doesn't come off as rude even when I'm not trying to be, but the sinbox is what we call the feature box because most of the time it's filled with futa porn.

>>43625549
I have no idea how to say “this went over your head” that doesn't come off as rude even when I'm not trying to be, but my post was supposed to be a pun. No, I’m not new here.

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>>43625573
That's because it didn't go over his head, it went under it.

>>43625549
>filled with futa porn
I've been part of that problem several times. No, I'm not sorry.

>>43625874
>I'm not sorry.
I don't think you can be.

>>43625884
I'll never forget what I am, because Fimfiction certainly won't. I wear it like armour so it can never be used against me. If this isn't "plot armour," then I don't know what is.

>>43625874
Better in the box than in the thread.

>>43625874
There are 1,721 stories on fimfic with the word futa in the description. Which is slightly less than 1% of all stories on the site. I do not know if that is more or less than I expected.

>>43626187
Apparently 29% of my published stories contain futa, but that's doing a manual count since one of them doesn't show up when doing a site search in my section. This number will go up a lot once I publish everything I have in my pipeline, though.

>>43626051
I wrote one recent (not-porn) story of mine without telling anybody anything about it at all until I had a completed draft, and I'm really happy with how it turned out, so I'm trying to stick with that method more often than not.

>>43626237
I find that that the likelihood I complete a project is inversely correlated with how many people I tell about it.

>>43626310
I tried the "tell it to the page" thing based on advice in "Becoming a Writer" by Dorothea Brande. Her argument is more or less your enthusiasm about your story is best spent on the blank page rather than your friend's ears.

I had a sleep paralysis demon for the first time a few nights ago.
It was a white horse to the right of my bed. It had no skin or fur but it was still white. It was about as tall as a person and a bit wider. When I tried to lift up my left hand it took its gaunt looking right foreleg and pressed my hand and arm back down onto my abdomen. I woke up shortly after that.

Fics for this?

>>43626930
Slendermane's Amorous Visit by Leech

>>43626930
God forbid Celestia makes a house call

>>43626930
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/375944/one-white-unicorn

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>>43631923

Sonic vs Rainbow Dash or Sonic and Rainbow Dash fanfictions?

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Humans belong in Equestria

>>43616242
Didn't she teleport from somewhere in Ponyville straight to the treebrary in Ticket Master? That one was unintentional though.

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>>43616242
She teleports some parasprites to Ponyville from the Everfree and back again in Magic Duel.
Also, if you're feeling generous, she teleports from the Starswirl the Bearded wing in the Canterlot archives to Ponyville and back in It's About Time.

Fics where I'm happy?

>>43628715
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/500819

>>43628722
Not where you're happy, where I'M happy.

>>43628715
I already am though. I don't get why you guys think I'm not. It doesn't take a lot for me to be content, I have low standards for achievement.

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>>43630810 >>43630815 >>43630845 >>43630852 >>43631682 >>43631753 >>43632763 >>43644500

The colourless out of space, in
>/FSBC/

I won't get into time travel mechanics or how these creatures work, okay? It doesn't make sense. Waving it away may feel like a huge concession, and I'd bet $50 people in the comments argued about it plenty, but the story doesn't want you to think about that; it's just setup and entirely not the point. And alright, I am willing to work with the fic a little when it asks so nicely.

There are quite a few things I really like about this fic, so let's maybe start there. Mainly, that it's just a good piece of horror fiction. The pacing, the descriptions, the looming sense of threat, and the utter helplessness—all of that works here (maybe except for a bit of an overexplaining/overly dramatic narrator), and the resultant piece is genuinely decent horror that attacks you from a couple angles at once (helplessness, character drama, how complete and pointless the tragedy is, the declining mental state of the characters, etc., etc.). All of that is in chapter one.
But the thing I like the most about this story is chapter 2. Sweet Celestia, I love it. It's painfully long, but it doesn't overstay its welcome at all. Now, I am *very* partial to post-end-of-world scenarios; however, here it's not really about that; it's about Rose's mental state after surviving it. The way she's portrayed is so interesting and almost makes me want to forget the sins of chapter 1.

Chief among those sins—the paradoxes and overly-plot-convenient monsters aside—is that it really, really doesn't feel like a ponyfic. And I know that this is "the point", watching ponies crumble and collapse under unimaginable stress, but if "the point" of your ponyfic is to write everypony as if it wasn't a ponyfic, you're doing something very wrong. I must also mention the other plot holes and questionable decisions, which are all in service to the Plot the author has imagined. That makes it feel a little forced; some of the very silly scenes also feel like clichés that have been christened with a pair of hooves without any real thought to it. And when your ponyfic would've been better with humans, that becomes a big problem. This is like And Hell Followed in this regard, except made into a core element of the fic.
And so, I don't really know what to do with this story. The setup/framing asks you to overlook a lot, and once you do, you still get an extremely unpony fic. But at the same time, as a piece of prose, it's a pretty decent horror with an amazing chapter 2. I'm not leaving any grade, because ultimately that depends on how you weigh those upsides against the aforementioned problems.

[Voting]
Obviously I haven't prepared stuff yet, but I'm open to horror recs of appropriate length. Could be shorter, too, and we'll read like three at once. You can expect a proper list of suggestions either late today or tomorrow.
(Yes, the lack of the arrow annoyed me this much.)

>>43630711
>it's just a good piece of horror fiction
Hrm, that's the opposite of my take on it. I think what defines a good [Horror] most of all is the feeling you get while reading it in the dark. Either:
1. The constant suspense or unease, and the feeling that the character you're following is rarely ever "safe". Largely a function of the moment-to-moment pacing.
Or,
2. The creepy, unsettling atmosphere, that feels materially different than something that is merely [Dark]. Just the perfect spooky "vibe", even if it doesn't necessarily make you scared.

This story didn't quite excel at either of those, for me. Yet, I enjoyed it still. The prose was quite nice, and the dialogue too—something I noted just a few paragraphs in. The monsters were an interesting concept, enough that I was constantly on the edge of my seat to see what happened next and how the cast would survive them—sort of the opposite of the proper reading experience for [Horror], but still a good [Thriller] [Drama]-esque experience. Having them ultimately defeated by starvation wasn't something I expected, yet it made sense and felt like a clever, satisfying explanation to me. I wish the author had done a little more with the concept, or given us a few more breadcrumbs of explanation, but what was there was sufficient to tell a good story.

>horror recs of appropriate length
The horrorfics on my shelves are almost entirely short little one-shots, and the longest I have clocks in at 25k (only about ⅔ the length of this one), but I thought it was very good so I'll recommend it nonetheless.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/384325/this-is-the-last-train-car
I posted about it in the thread about a year ago, so I'll link that, too:
https://desuarchive.org/mlp/thread/42534727#42576695

>>43630711
Didnt we read something almost exactly like this? Was it the no sound tree one? Anyways I dropped it a bit into ch1 because I just didn't see it get any better. Twilight is retarded and it almost seems that way so the author could write a badass Amethyst fic or something. Twilight has no plan at all for if present Twilight shows up and just stands there watching as she herself gets erased from existence. Then Amethyst decides to actually force ponies to stop moving in what seems to be a feat of magic Twilight wasn't capable of. Of course, if she is capable of it I suppose she just doesn't mind seeing foals prance through the street and explode into body parts and watching herself get unmade through a butterfly effect for purely scientific purposes. Oh also Twilight doesn't know a spell Amethyst learned in school, that's also hilarious. Then we've got Amethyst being exhausted from walking to the bags with the shield spell, so reasonably she takes a break. This break is about 5 seconds and then she decides she's ready to keep going and almost instantly dies. Maybe take a few minutes next time? Of course, this happens so she can suck Dinky's soul or something.
>paper is blank
Why are the saddlebags still there?
>"Amethyst informed, then turned to the filly"
Wew, the biggest ask of the fic is to ignore this shit. We have full on facial expressions, full mouth movements and ear twitching (this is giving benefit of the doubt about how much every single character 'looks around' to mean just their eyes even thought that is still movement) so I'm not even sure within the rules of the fic what exactly gets ponies killed. You can fully turn your body and be fine. Who the fuck knows.
>Amethyst having a shouting match against everyone alive
dropped, this fic sucks so far lol

>>43630711
>But the thing I like the most about this story is chapter 2. Sweet Celestia, I love it. It's painfully long, but it doesn't overstay its welcome at all. Now, I am *very* partial to post-end-of-world scenarios;
Seems interesting. I also usually really like the post disaster surviving parts of fics like this. My favorite parts of And Hell Followed were these parts both in the castle during the disaster and I liked seeing the aftermath as well
>Chief among those sins—the paradoxes and overly-plot-convenient monsters aside—is that it really, really doesn't feel like a ponyfic
Yeah, I think part of this for me was the Amethyst protag angle. She felt like the chosen one who was able to cast off her ponyness the fastest with cold facts and logic, whereas Twilight was a slave to her pony ways and died for it
>The setup/framing asks you to overlook a lot
rip me
>it's a pretty decent horror with an amazing chapter 2
maybe I'll force myself through it. I mostly just wanted to read something else so I finished the Twilight Enigma instead I forgot Rarity gets with a zigger at the end lmao

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>>43630711
My shilling campaign has finally paid off!
>Don't...
Survival thriller is the name of game here, and it is important to make that distinction for when we get to CH2.
This first chapter is paced very well, It does a good job at showcasing a daily life in Ponyville before everything goes wrong. It also does well at previewing all of our major character and how they'll act once everything goes wrong. Even Amethyst's dismissive "No thanks" goes a long way. For me, the drama and the tension surrounding the survivor group is the real meat of the story. Everything from Rose keeping to herself, Amethyst's growing being harsh on Derpy, with Derpy herself being softhearted and also being slow to pick up, all works well. AnOrdinaryWriter says in the accompanying blogpost that the character picks were mostly random, and I find that hard to believe. Background ponies give you a lot a wiggle room, but I think their existing characters traits are played up very well.
Referring again to the blogpost, AnOrdinaryWriter likens Amethyst to a psychopath. Amethyst is easily my favorite character, and makes a good villain, but if she is a psychopath, she isn't a very smart one. On my initial read of this, I assumed her actions were fulled by frustration and depression, showcasing our people act very much unlike themselves in bleak circumstances. If she is a psychopath, was her empathy for the fallen Apples just an act to gain favor? Was her readiness to try and grab the spell driven purely by selfishness. Maybe I'm being too literal, and she's just supposed to be cold and selfish.
>the paradoxes and overly-plot-convenient monsters aside
The wraiths are at their core set dressing. The story just needs them to take out most of Equestria, and isn't interested in the examining them much further. Taking out Twilight and the other Princesses is done to remove any easy solutions as well set the scope for how deadly the wraiths are. The biggest issue is that with more complex parts, like time-travel, it gets messier and easier to scrutinize.
>is that it really, really doesn't feel like a ponyfic.
Now, this does not need to be a ponyfic. I can see someone getting turned off by this being to grim or edgy for a ponyfic. With a thorough rewrite, this could be an original horror short story, and you wouldn't lose much. The biggest payout we get is an assumed familiarity with the setting and characters, so we don't have to devote as much time on backstory.

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>>43630711
>>43630845
>...Move
Time Turner shows up twice in the remains of Ponyville, and I'm still not sure if that was an error or a nod to him being a time traveler/The Doctor.
The second chapter is where I believe most will be split on this, because it is a totally different genre of horror. There's an alternative universe where Rose listened to Lily's plan, and this is only one chapter. But alas, this is the universe where we delve into psychological horror. With every other pony dead, Rose now has to carry the remainder of this fic with her internal monologue and her ongoing battle with death. I will say that I don't think there a quality dip in CH2, just that it is a completely type of horror. I do think the introduce of Death in CH2 is a really good choice. It gives Rose a present threat, Death carries the weight of the previous events in the story well. Rose's extended dream with her family is the big turn point in this chapter, where Death seems to be the most appealing option. This is all psychological and carries the weight the previous events well. My thoughts on scene shift from "It's so sad that Rose is going through this" to "wow his obvious dream sequence is still going." It's really important to get the most out of this scene pivotal, even if the dream element is obvious, so I'm little mixed on the execution.
And then the story ends. Well, end my not be the operative word, because that implies conclusion. I think the most conclusive aspect of this ending is Rose choosing to continue to try and "win the game" against death despite everything. Horror endings are hard, but I think this one feels conclusive enough from a pure character point of view.
>it's about Rose's mental state after surviving it
This is my major hook-up with the story. At their core, Don't and Move are too different genres of horror that follow the same narrative. If Resident Evil 4 started adopting the writing of Silent Hill 2 halfway through I would raise an eyebrow, even though I love both games. And what if you only like one style of horror? CH1 becomes an exhausting set-up to get to real psychological meat of the story. Inversely, if you prefer the character drama, CH2 becomes a introspective epilogue that offers only a fraction of CH1's appeal.
In the end, I still like this story. I still really like the writing alot, even if it wouldn't be my first choice for Pony fiction. The horror fan is talking here, not the MLP fan.
AnOrdinaryWriter mentioned working a successor, which I assume is Chasm. I'm guessing we could try to add this one to the rotation if enough people liked this story.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/587144/chasm

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>>43608185
Your image just made me feel like making this edit.

Jinx, are you in this thread?

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>>43630810
>This story didn't quite excel at either of those, for me.
I think your numbering of the two points correlates exactly to the chapters where I felt those things in this fic. In Don't..., you get the more gore'y sense of danger, where literally any movement could be lethal. Whenever the characters start arguing, especially. This is also helped by the [Tragedy]-adjacent realization that they WILL NOT live through this. And you are welcome to delude yourself otherwise (I did that until nearly the end of ch.1 because that's what the protagonist did, and it is her story, not mine), but the pervasive feeling of danger was there for me. Again, this danger was actually more due to the other ponies rather than the Wraiths, but that might be intentional
And in ...Move, you have a very classic concept of psychological horror rendered in, like you said, good writing.
>what happened next and how the cast would survive them
Huh. And I was reading it, hoping that they won't die in the next scene, but knowing it is very likely that they do.

>>43630815
>Didnt we read something almost exactly like this?
I also felt that, but I think it's just a mix of a few popular topics/themes. Chapter two also remembered me of something, but I'm not sure what. Regardless, they're used pretty well here.
>a badass Amethyst fic
I am in awe.
Like, legitimately without words that someone could read her like this. She breaks and even the narration calls her out as a villain repeatedly, and she's obviously the worst pony out there. She becomes example of what horrible changes can happen to ponies due to stress. Though maybe you quit right as she started to act up, before it came to all of that.
>Maybe take a few minutes next time?
At that point, she thinks that any second could cause someone to die, see: the Dinky incident. Recovering takes ~hour, she says this to the others. No time for that when a solution is so close (or so she thinks).
>You can fully turn your body
Yeah, that's weird, and later on it's said that that you can't do that. It's a little inconsistent, but basically, it's mostly that you can't move from your spot. Again, except Dinky, for whom it'd be lethal. Just... go with what the narration and the scene's tension imply.
>the Amethyst protag angle
Then do read on a little longer. She's not... Well... Rose is the main protagonist for a reason. Amethyst's time is a little brief.

I'm getting old and my life feels hollow and empty. I've wanted to write but only managed a couple fanfiction stories over the years, one /mlp/ one. Does it make sense to make a throwaway fimfiction account and just start posting stories for the sake of doing something? If anyone in the thread has posted something, does it feel satisfying or meaningful?

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>>43630845
Honestly, I think your analysis is quite on point here. ++for pacing and character writing, with the "not really pony" caveat from me still standing. Like, that "No thanks" was already pushing it a bit for me, and I noted it when I read that part.
>AnOrdinaryWriter says in the accompanying blogpost that the character picks were mostly random
Seeing something like that is a HUGE strike against the fic for me. Okay, you have Twi (for a moment), but like you say later, this simply didn't need to be a ponyfic, and it doesn't get much from being one. For many people it's not a problem, but I would hold that against a ponyfic. Not to say it's a story I regret reading—I don't, because it is written well, and I like ch.2 a lot—but "pony in name only" does strongly negatively impact my opinion of the story.
>Taking out Twilight and the other Princesses is done to
While I agree that the other issues is the bigger one and I get why the fic did this, it's also something I dislike. Princesses going out like that is bad, Twilight not warning them instead is also bad, what about Discord, etc., etc. Refer to the point directly above: the fic had ZERO intent to play within the setting's established rules and characteristics, and that's just objectively bad writing for a fanfiction story. Not a preference, just a mistake, imo.

>>43630852
>>...Move
Desu I agree with most of this, enough that there's nothing for me to nitpick. Just confirmign that yes, those are very different things, and I happened to be in the "loves chapter 2 a lot more" camp. I mean, it did make me appreciate ch.1 a little more as setup and I didn't think it was wasting time (again, really good pacing!) but yeah.

>>43631251
>I am in awe.
>Like, legitimately without words that someone could read her like this.
Sorry I should've put "badass" in quotes. I don't think she's a badass, but what I meant is she reads closer to an isekai'd faggot than a pony here and part of that is how the ponies behave towards her as well. Without any build up or remorse she tests a theory on a body and everyone gets mad at her and she just fights back without any sort of apology. Then of course taking dinky's magic makes sense, not only to replenish hers, but to prevent another feinting spell, but nobody is articulating this, instead she starts yelling 'of course im right' and everyone yells at her back. She is making the 'right' moves but acting like a nigger while doing all of them. Feels like a fixfic where Amethyst is just smarter than everyone and also doesn't care about them.
>She's not... Well... Rose is the main protagonist for a reason. Amethyst's time is a little brief.
I never expected her to live much longer, because of course the only other unicorn had to die for further helplessness to set in. I just mean the forced progression of the scene through uncommon cold-hearted logic
>>43631275
>Seeing something like that is a HUGE strike against the fic for me. Okay, you have Twi (for a moment), but like you say later, this simply didn't need to be a ponyfic
Good point honestly, if you just randomly pick background characters then why is it even a pony fic if they aren't even going to do pony things?
>Princesses going out like that is bad, Twilight not warning them instead is also bad,
I didn't even think of that lmao, why the fuck is she warning the general ponyville populace in the market and not anyone important? Not even the elements, she's just in town square. And lmao for not warning the Princesses, the only ponies that might have prior experience with these things (although them quickly dying means they probably don't, unless they were just tired of living like Twilight was)

>>43631266
Yeah, sure.

https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1060565/still-self-commentary
Link to the "Still" related blogpost. It provides a lot of context to how the story turned out.
>>43631275
>like, that "No thanks" was already pushing it a bit for me
By the time Thunderlane crashed my mindset was "Well this isn't very pony but I do like the writing so I'll keep at it."
>the fic had ZERO intent to play within the setting's established rules and characteristics
I was pushing the character count between my two post but this was my other major hook up with the story. We REALLY need the princesses to job so that the story can happen. Did Twi try talking to Celly and Luna in another time travel run and fail? Again, this does not need to a pony fic. Like, if this was random creepypasta I'd probably rate it higher.
>>43631323
>I never expected her to live much longer,
Refer to the blog. With Rose in CH1, the author was copying the MC from the movie Circle, who survives a long time by keeping his mouth shut.

>>43608185
>look it up
>it's Flash's
What is with latinos and Flashlight

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>>43630711
I can’t believe I got as far in this story as I did.
I took a look at the comments before reading, as I usually do, so I was prepared for the nonsense of the start, but it doesn’t go without saying that this bait and switch is bullshit. There’s a type of story you expect when Twilight time travels to avert a disaster, and this totally failed to deliver on that. Twilight exists only for long enough to bait you into reading the fic, so that you properly fall into despair when she is ripped apart before she can actually do anything else to justify her inclusion. And yeah, the ponies move rather a lot without getting got.

This story also did not work as a horror story for me at all. Throughout all the parts I read, it only felt like a vehicle to torture ponies until they die (except Rose). The best parts, for me, were the beginning, with Rose’s setup, and the argument with Amethyst.
I felt like there was almost something to the story when they were talking about the utility of taking Dinky’s magic, but in the end it was very underexplored and Amethyst turned out to just be a psycho when called out on her selfishness. It was articulated, but only barely, that Applejack and Apple Bloom chose their own deaths rather than force Dinky to give up her magic, and that it was not Derpy who chose for them.

When I skipped to Lily’s death, I simply could not believe that my reader said there were 20 more pages of this crap. I skipped through most of Rose’s monologues because I couldn’t believe she would be talking this much after a full day of dehydration. And then apparently she walks to Canterlot, just to, what, show the reader more death? I appreciate that there’s some commentary on how doing what she had to do to survive the Death game stole her equinity, but again it seemed to basically not be explored. Now, *this* may just be due to me skipping most of the second chapter, but I suspect it isn’t. There was a lot, a lot about how Rose is an empty husk of a pony, compelled to look at more death so the narrator can tell us about her looking at more death, but very little of the drive that kept Rose going in the first half of the story. Rose doesn’t really seem to want to do anything with her survival, she doesn’t rest or get cleaned up, she certainly doesn’t eat or drink nearly enough to justify all the travelling she does. The author only wants to talk about all the terrible things Rose sees, interspersed with Rose’s heedlessness of her own body’s breakdown as she goes to see them. There are just a couple lines at the end about how Rose has seemingly gone insane in her search for more ponies, but it didn’t really mean anything to me.

I also don’t see what the deal is with the praise for the prose. As Rariflag said, the narrator often overexplains things, especially around the spellcasting, and I was often kicked out of it by Skirts-like constructions. “innumerable degree of death,” “a mere matter of minutes” and “between weeps” etc.

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>>43631682
I also prefer her old name, Sparkler.
And The Needle was, like, infinitely better as psychological horror.

>>43630711
I only made it halfway through so far, but it's getting late and I want to make a post anyway. Also I'm currently rangebanned, so it'll be phoneposting for me.

Despite how un-pony it feels at times, I've been liking this story so far! The first chapter played out a lot like a mystery crossed with a slasher film, where half the """fun""" is dreading discovering who will next receive a gruesom death. I do feel a little apprehensive going forward, because now with just Roseluck and Lily remaining, it's not easy to imagine that the story would kill off anypony else anytime soon. That said, the ruthlessness with which it killed off everypony already surprised me, and it did contribute to the dreadful atmosphere. That's dreadful in the literal sense of being filled with dread, because I quite enjoyed it, actually.

Now, of course, there's plenty about the story that feels kind of contrived. Amy starts lashing out in a very un-pony way, although I could nearly cut her some slack given how absurdly stressful the situation is. Present-Twilight just conveniently ruins everything for everypony (like she does all the damn time in every story ever) by getting herself quickly killed. At times, ponies clearly move enough to get themselves killed, but they don't because the author presumably overlooked it e.g. "Derpy shook her head". It's still kind of mysterious why talking, crying, shouting, &c aren't enough to attract the wraiths on their own, since those obviously involves moving one's mouth. All that said, the grimness with which the story shuts down every potential avenue of escape for everypony ends up giving me the impression that the author has some kind of plan and the guts to stick with it, so I don't feel bad just going along for the ride.

Oh, and the gore, un-pony as it is, doesn't really disgust me. It's very grim, of course, but in an... intriguing way? Like, "what's going to happen to them next?" I guess it just ends up being a little sadistically appealing. I DO plan on finishing the story later tonight.

>>43631266
It does help with feeling fulfilled if you're satisfied with your work and if someone leaves a positive comment. But you probably won't be getting a lot of views as a new author unless you write HiE or shipping, so keep that in mind. Writing for contests is also good, there are at least two going on right now, the Cozy Glow and the Nightmare Night contest:
https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1143852/2026-cozy-glow-short-story-contest (until 25th)
https://www.fimfiction.net/group/213901/my-little-reviews-feedback/thread/576155/the-nightmare-night-scary-contest (until 31st)

>>43627095
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/81110/order-from-chaos
The only good Sonic crossover that I have ever come across.

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>>43632758

LessWrong was a mistake

>>43631251
I guess part of it is that it's hard for me to feel the tension in the same way as typical horror stories. It can't really pull off the same type of tension when, from the start, it's clearly defined what will cause you to die and what you have to do to stay safe, and the characters that don't follow along are filtered out pretty quickly. Feels less like being stalked by something unknown and more like attrition. Again, not that I think the story's bad for it (just not scratching the [Horror] itch for me); it managed to play with the concept in a few different ways, with the seizures, shockwave blast, suicide, telekinesis kill, and failed double-suicide, to good effect. I also agree with what others have said about the contrivances with Twi and the time travelling and the princesses, but it's not enough to stop my enjoyment of the story.

>>43631266
Yes, it does. Writing can be plenty of fun. The feeling of completing a story is great. (Don't start your writing career with an epic or you'll never feel it.)
>>43631763
Don't forget https://www.fimfiction.net/blog/1145489/contest-census-obscura-deadline-november-23rd

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>>43631763
>>43632520
Sincerely thanks for these responses. I feel like I going crazy not accomplishing anything in life, but trying to actually do anything is a real struggle.

Is writing 1000 words a day, ~5K words a story, posting one story/chapter a week a reasonable target?

Years ago I posted one story on FIMfiction that was 9K words, it's gotten around 4K views, around 100 votes split %50/50 because it's a fetish clopfic, and won $10 in the contest it was for. 8 comments, 4 followers, and I've gotten alerts for favorites but it seems like there's no way to see the favorites total on FIMfiction?

It took about a month to write. I'm not sure if it's worth it or not. I want to write but I also want to do gamedev and other things and just end up doing nothing. Reading stories it feels like I ought to be able to write something like them but then actually trying to do it is so much more work than it seems like it should be.

>>43632595
>it seems like there's no way to see the favorites total on FIMfiction?
This is because "favourites" is just one of the default bookshelves everyone has rather than an actual feature of stories the way it's a feature of images in a booru.

>>43632595
That's an ambitious target for most people. Most of us have times when we're really productive and can knock out 1,000 or even 2,000 words in a few hours, but we can't sustain it. If you're dedicated and have lots of ideas, then it's possible. If you've managed something like that before, then I see no reason why you couldn't do it again. But for most of us, an average of a few hundred words a day is more normal. Also keep in mind that you should build in time to edit your work before posting it.

The site is less active now than it used to be. You're not likely to get 4K views and 100 votes. It's still possible, but it's harder.

>I want to write but I also want to do gamedev and other things and just end up doing nothing
I bet you have ADHD like I do. Stimulant medications work wonders. Lots of coffee has a similar effect, though it's not as effective.

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>>43632394
Rationaltards are the kinds of ““people”” (subhuman bug men) that would argue that changelings are more important than and morally superior to ponies They’d say something like this in more pseudo intellectual prose.
>Changelings feed on emotions while ponies consume physical resources to survive. Ponies are also more numerous than changelings thus ponies cause more suffering and less happiness than changelings. Actually changelings predating on ponies is actually good since it’s diminishing their capacity to cause harm and takes resources from them they don’t deserve and gives it to changelings that cause less harm. So yes, I do support the enslavement of the ponies.

>>43630711
this is not a fanfic. it's two fanfics, one that ends on a cliffhanger, and one that starts in media res. one may follow the other, but with one being a high-stakes thriller, and the other being a slow, psychological introspection, these are different beasts, and they're two different kinds of beasts that i find people will be unlikely to enjoy both of equally. i myself love stories that involve a large cast thrust into an extremely high-stakes situation that may or may not involve them getting picked off one-by-one, so i'm biased towards the first chapter playing to my tastes.
i do think it's a good example of the genre though. the casts plays off each other well to stir up drama, and none of the deaths are redundant. it's just a good thriller, nonsensical time travel rules notwithstanding.
regarding the second chapter, it's basically a better version of another fic the club read a while back, "sorry we missed you", about rainbow dash wandering equestria after every other living creature mysteriously disappears. i really did not enjoy that fic at all, but thankfully, this chapter doesn't overstay its welcome to nearly the same degree. although it did still feel like it was dragging to me at parts.
as someone who really enjoyed the first chapter, i found the vastly slower paced second chapter to be disappointing. not that it's even this chapter's fault, but if you liked the first chapter, and you wanted more of the same, you will be disappointed; and inversely, in you didn't like the first chapter, you might drop the fic before finding out that you really like the second chapter. that's a risk when the two chapters of your fic are entirely different genres. the second chapter isn't bad, but it's not what i wanted, and consequently, it does hold the fic back for me slightly. roseluck wandering equestria almost feels like a massively extended epilogue.
oh yeah, neither chapter felt like horror at all to me. the first was the purest thriller ever, and the second is kind of hard to fit into a genre, neither drama nor tragedy really feel quite right, but it's certainly not horror.
>>43630852
i'd be up to read chasm, but i'm guessing that it takes more cues from dont... than ...move, and it seems like most people here prefered the latter to the former.

>>43632742
I was actually on medication for ADHD at one point in my life, but it didn't seem to do anything so eventually I just stopped taking it. Are you taking something, and can I ask what it is? I really don't want to have to rely on medication but at this point I just want to accomplish something before I die.

If FIMfiction has lost so much traffic, is there any other pony site that would be better to post on or is it just a general traffic decrease all over for pony stuff due to the FIM series ending?

>>43632766
Fimfiction's traffic is still pretty consistent, it's just that new users have slowed down because of an anti-scam bot measure (that did nothing to really stop the bots).

>>43632766
I'm on Vyvanse, and I've been on Adderall before. I didn't want to have to rely on medication either, but it just makes my life better. I don't lose my keys. I don't forget to do paperwork. I don't procrastinate on fixing things around the house. I went off stimulants a few years ago because of the stimulant shortage (I couldn't find a pharmacy with anything), and I ended up drinking like a quart of coffee every day just to function adequately. Getting back on stimulants was easier and works better.

The whole fandom has shrunk, but Fimfiction is still the best horsewords site. The only serious alternatives are Ponepaste and AO3, and neither of those gets as much traffic.

>>43632809
>>43632783
I really, really genuinely appreciate the comments. /mlp/ has always been one of the better boards for anons not being assholes, thanks to anons like you.

I guess I'll see if I can actually manage to do something in this next week or not and maybe actually bite the bullet and see a doctor if I can't.

>>43632758
Rationalism may not be magic but it's a fun thought experiment

>>43632948
Rationalism and thought are diametrically opposed.

It's surprising to see such well written commentary and in depth literary analysis in this thread for MLP fanfiction of all things. I feel like it's easier to start out with cheap clopfics because there's less emotional vulnerability with posting them since it's just a clopfic and readers won't have the same standards as more serious writing. Thoughts?

>>43633063
Do a clopfic where you explore Rainbow Dash's emotional weight and how she's secretly incapable of having just casual sex because she actually puts way too much importance on it.

>>43632948
>>43633022
>Rationalism
Stop using the words wrong. That is not the term for lesswrongers. You're looking for the word "rationality", not "rationalism". Rationalism is the philosophical position of believing in reason as the source of knowledge, as opposed to trying to find knowledge via sensory experience. In other words, Plato rather than Aristotle.
The HPMOR-spawned cult of rationality seems to often be diametrically opposed to rationalism. Rationality is grounded in the empirically-determined 'real' world, whereas rationalism doesn't care about it at all.

>>43632758
Incubators did nothing wrong.

>>43632809
Thanks for reminding me that I need to start eating ground coffee if I actually want to be productive.

I don't care all that much about the bookclub and can never remember what fic it is reading.

>>43626930
take your lithium

>>43632595
Writing just takes time, time, time, time.
Compare it to drawing for example, obviously learning to draw is hard and takes dedication and time. But once you've got a short baseline, you can get simple sketches done in 30-60 minutes, and a good sketch can often be enough to convey an idea, a joke or a meme, a feeling. A good artist can probably get a speed sketch done in like 10 minutes - going from "here's an idea that would be funny" to fully fleshed out recognisable ponies doing that idea in literal minutes. Highly rendered art pieces with advanced painting and lighting, tons of detail etc. can take many hours but they're not necessary to convey the basic idea of a drawing. People will spend 10 seconds looking at your meme sketch and 15 seconds looking at a beautifully rendered artwork all the same.

For writing, it doesn't matter how skilled you are, it just takes raw time to type out words. If you truly are skilled and talented and can shit out a coherent plot without editing, maybe you can write short stories in like an hour each, for 1-2k words. But a story of 1-2k words is almost always going to be devoid of substance, it gets read in five minutes and forgotten within half an hour.
Any sort of longer story takes time, raw time to type out more words. Editing takes time, because it means re-reading all those words all over, thinking about each individual passage (of which there will be dozens in a short story, hundreds to thousands in anything longer), possibly retyping. Cutting, pasting, throwing away entire sections and redoing them.

Writing can be rewarding but you do need to expect to have to just sit down and type for 2 hours straight. And then do it again and again every single day, and then after multiple days you'll have a new short-medium lenght story or a new chapter for your longer story. And in the meantime you're just sitting down, putting in an hour or several hours of work and knocking out a chunk of the whole, not even something complete. Unless again you only focus on really short tiny stories but then again you're spending a couple of hours straight working to create something people will think about for a few minutes at most.

In terms of actual reward, I do think becoming a meme artist is faster and easier. If you have a sense of humour, you can more or less get by with a pretty beginner artstyle and simple, quick sketches, so you just need to spend maybe a few weeks training your hand just enough to get recognisable pony shapes reliable and you can start putting ideas from your mind directly to paper.
Getting started with writing is easier if you have a basic grasp of English grammar, but getting anything of note achieved is vastly more time-consuming.

There are a bunch of links in the OP to good and recommended fanfiction. Does anyone have any links to really bad fanfiction that can serve as a "don't do this" lesson?

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>>43633147
You ought to be able to tell that for the ones desperately dunking on rationalfics here, all forms of intellectualism falls under the same frightening "them," and any further distinction falls on deaf ears.

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>>43633745
Ezn's guide has lots and lots of "don't do this" examples in it, otherwise you can go to the front page and pick any fic with a fat red bar.

>>43633745
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/537799/i-wrote-this-story-about-the-cutie-mark-crusaders-making-an-only-fans-using-voice-to-text-in-about-15-minutes-and-it-shows

>>43633745
>There are a bunch of links in the OP to good and recommended fanfiction
Some of them are DEAD like the STARTER KIT

>>43633780
It seems like a lot of time red bar mean more "not my fetish" than necessarily bad. Guess it depends on what kind of fics you're looking at though.

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>>43633924
No, that's just an excuse that bad fetish writers use to tell themselves they don't need to write a better story. A fat red bar seems to pretty consistently mean a pile of trash with no redeeming qualities. Even a fetish fic for a fetish not shared by any reader is still going to get enough upvotes to not have a huge red portion of its bar it if has even somewhat hot sex or worthwhile narrative.
I checked my own advice and this popped up,
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/587828/your-faithful-queen
>Yaotyl Do, of the Do Clan
It was good advice, but there are often even worse ones. Everyone OOC or ones riding the edge of the relevancy-to-FiM rule, or just incomprehensible word vomit put under [Fetish] [Dark].

>>43634041
It feels pretty good when someone tells you he loves the story, just not the fetish.

I've seen at least two authors who churn out dozens of fics in such broken English that they're completely unreadable, and the plot is barely followable (sometimes not at all).
And they BOTH write fics for my fetish time to time. It's cursed.

>>43634080
...And what fetish would that be, anon...?

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People can write bad fanfiction. They should just expect people to respond how they will to badly written fanfiction. It goes both ways

>>43634093
Boring old latex, not even that spicy
Here, feast your eyes. Exhibit A: https://www.fimfiction.net/user/220563/Kentavritsa/stories
Exhibit B: https://www.fimfiction.net/user/159474/Ponyess/stories

Wait shit, looking at both of these side by side I have now realised that they may be alts.

>>43633745
I do not click on stories that are bad on purpose, but these two that the Daring Do guy shared are the worse stories I have read recently. DNF either one:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/258463/family-back-story
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/59331/a-hero-for-daring-do

Sometimes mediocre to bad fanfiction, depending for what reasons, are really fun and provide an experience that a more polished and literary story can't. It feels unfiltered and fun.

>>43634168
I take it you enjoyed https://www.fimfiction.net/story/9406/a-true-rarity as much as I did, then.

>>43633765
Posting ITT won't build the basilisk.

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>>43622686
>of course it wouldn't
There was zero from it. When I read that Twidash hypnosis fic way back when, it at least stirred something up when Twilight nearly mindfucked Dash into being her Royal Guard slave and that one had none of my main fetishes in it.

>Any matching neologisms for tentacle parts?
Nope, just bog standard "phallus".

>>43622816
Don't forget to post the Chart.

>>43626930
>Luna dares Celestia to dreamwalk
Solid 8/10 comedy oneshot premise. Especially with the punchline at the end where Celestia lies and says it went great, then you cut to your POV of the sleep paralysis demon dream.

>>43631266
>does it feel satisfying or meaningful?
It's nice getting stories out there. Part of it for me is just finally "locking it in". Once it's posted and public, it's done. If I never post it, I'd just keep editing the thing until I died.

>>43632595
>Is writing 1000 words a day,
1k a day is definitely doable but like >>43632742 said, it is pretty ambitious. For reference, you said it took a month to write the 9k fic. That's 300 a day, which sounds more typical given there will be days you don't write at all for IRL reasons or other entertainment eating your time.

>~5K words a story
Story length will vary greatly based on plot. 5k is about average or a little high for a comedy or SoL oneshot, but would be a tad short for adventure, romance, or mystery/thriller.

>posting one story/chapter a week a reasonable target?
That's pretty ambitious for a story. That's only giving you 5 days to write and 2 to edit.

>one story on FIMfiction
You won't get anywhere near those numbers today. My featurebait fic I recently wrote that was featured is 22-1 with 176 views and 9 comments (four of which are people arguing with each other, so they don't really count).

>>43633063
>won't have the same standards
You want absurdist comedy if this is what you're aiming for. Readers will give a wacky comedy plot a mile of slack if it lands the punchline, story or characterization be damned.

>>43633745
Here's all the 3/10 or below Daring fics I've read so far. They almost universally have what I'd call an "amateurish narrator" that sounds like he's either ESL or a teen boy. Once you read it you see this narrator in most bad fanfics. Characterization and rushed pacing problems also nearly always abound.
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/362256/daring-do-and-the-tome-of-adventure
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/332727/i-love-daring
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/262258/daring-do-and-the-temple-of-balloon
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/258463/family-back-story
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/151053/daring-dont-want
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/109283/fantasy-reality-and-the-authors-affinity
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/134397/indigos-secret
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/59331/a-hero-for-daring-do

>>43622686
>You just said it's a bad text, of course it wouldn't. Or are we defining a fetish as an affinity so strong it transcends any issues of quality?
A strong fetish can. I've read some awful fics that just barely manage to string together a plot but describe a scenario that I still found hot if I stopped having a headache over the broken english and just imagined that was apparently supposed to have been happening in my head. I wouldn't have fapped to that as-is but I at least recognised it as potentially hot.

If you read a really well written and actually sexy fic and you get aroused despite the fic featuring some stuff you didn't think you'd be into, I don't think that qualifies as a fetish. It's words on a page, it's not hard to make something sound sultry and arousing with the proper descriptions even if there's a bunch of stuff happening around the benis in bagina that you thought would be the only thing that you'd care about.

>>43633745
"Like Looking in a Mirror"
It's currently featured but ignore the likes
It's terrible written, and is a good example what how NOT to do a story
Though, as earlier anons said, people love hie rgre bait

>>43637210
Total nothingburger story
>protagonist looks like a slightly masculine unicorn-Celestia
Why? Not explored. To what end? Mildly surprising others who move on and don't think about it afterwards.
>HiE
Doesn't matter. Protag with no meta knowledge was reborn naturally and grew up in Equestria. Effectively just a normal pony with irrelevant past life memories. Vaguely used to justify being oblivious to advances of mares, but even that is overshadowed by the bigger justification that he was sheltered by his family and grew up somewhere distant
>rgre
Only in the sense that mares thirst after stallions in socks
>plot
None. Just episodic nonsense - usually just the main character obliviously hanging out with the character of the week that wants him or participating in some low stakes canon episode

>>43633745
I have a whole bookshelf dedicated to stories I couldn't will myself to finish reading for one reason or another. Here's one:
https://www.fimfiction.net/story/440259/the-king-of-starbucks

>>43633792
Super Trampoline doesn't count because he's a shitposter, not a writer.

>>43638271
>https://www.fimfiction.net/story/440259/the-king-of-starbucks
>I dashed down the counter with the grace of a gay Olympic figure skater. Several mares swooned at the sight of my gorgeous body.

This one has to be a shitpost / deliberately a joke.

...right?

Have you ever commissioned an author on FIMfiction? Was it worth it?

I've commissioned authors before but looked for prices around $10/1000 words and of course no one charges that now, everything's more expensive. I've also been disappointed more often than not with commissions. But I still kind of want to commission things? It might be an addiction. I can afford it but it's probably a bad use of money at any price.

>>43639492
I haven't, but I'll tell you the only author I'd probably trust with a commission is David silver.
Not because I like what he writes, but because he is just very consistent and actually plans a story into his schedule
Idk many other authors taking them in

>>43639148
Anon, you don't understand what garbage people will stomach if it's a hie getting ogled by mares.
And no, that wasnt done as a joke

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>>43639148
>anon learns about the unironic wish fulfillment genre

>>43637210
They like it because they are giga faggots that are gonna get giga raped by some giga nigga sometime in the near future.

>>43639148
>I dashed down the counter with the grace of a gay Olympic figure skater.
Kino!
Unfiltered, raw SOVLFVL writing that only HIE chads can achieve.
The simile alone carries more personality than everything I've seen written in this thread.

>>43639662
That's what I thought about that Spartan fic with ridiculous onomatopoeia. At some point you gotta admire the brazenness.

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>>43635681
>>Luna dares Celestia to dreamwalk
Solid 8/10 comedy oneshot premise. Especially with the punchline at the end where Celestia lies and says it went great, then you cut to your POV of the sleep paralysis demon dream.

In most headcanons celestia cannot dream walk or do dream magic because of the nature of her own magic or her naturally being unable to do it.
But what if instead she can do it but elects to never do so because the way her magic interacts with the dream realm makes dreams become nightmares or some other sort of bad outcome?

It is currently about 7:30PM for me. I suffer from chronic insomnia and felt especially bad today so spent most of the day in bed and ran out of Tylenol and didn't get anything done. Then in the last hour or so I typed up the story outline for what I want to write, 437 words total. Not the 1000 I wanted but at least I have an outline.

Does that sound reasonable to any writer anons in the thread? And would doing one progress post a day not be too spammy? I need to force myself to make progress somehow and maybe making a post a day would be a way to do that.

>>43639741
Is 437 words the length of the outline or the target length of the fic? That seems awfully short. Fimfiction has a minimum word count of 1000.

>>43639754
437 is just what I was able to type today for the outline with reminders to myself of what I want to include and such. Still planning on like ~4K-5K for the fic. I'm trying to do ones that I can do in week so I can get in a routine and actually accomplish something each week. Going to try and eat something and then might try to do the intro to see if I can hit 1K words for the day.

Is it best to write a story in order from start to end? That seems like the natural way to do it to me but I know for things like movies and games they're not made in order.

>>43639492
>Have you ever commissioned an author on FIMfiction? Was it worth it?
I've been commissioned, and all of my clients like what they've been getting.

>I've commissioned authors before but looked for prices around $10/1000 words and of course no one charges that now, everything's more expensive.
That was a bad deal for the author six years ago, before inflation—and not the kind of inflation I like—fucked everything up.

>I've also been disappointed more often than not with commissions. But I still kind of want to commission things? It might be an addiction.
When you commission someone, you're having him take your idea and breathe life into it, since you can't animate it yourself. He allows you to guide his hand. It's definitely addictive.

>I can afford it but it's probably a bad use of money at any price.
I take it you can't write, but I write commissions so I can afford more commissions easily. Who cares about money, if you've got enough?