We do things a little differently around here editionGuide: https://files.catbox.moe/9g5sv2.pdfPastebin: https://pastebin.com/gs6mLNik>>65610406
>>65614453El firsto
Looked better without the rail in my humble
>>65614453Its the glock from the Sopranos
>>65614462If you didn't have a photo of you holding it, I'd assume the gun in the OP pic was AI-generated. Wild!
>>65614483I don't think that's Burt. Fat hand, nonetheless.
>>65614481I'm only here outta respect for my fawthuh
>>65614453>>65614456wut
>>65614453#1853
>>65614453>>65614456This is photoshop, right?
>>65614483It's a different fatsos hand(from reddit)[saved from a 4ching repost]
>>65614497It's fucking me up too. look >>65614462I'm not familiar with the coa footprint, but wat dafuq
>>65614462Most guns do. Not all though.
How do we evolve the picatinny rail?
>>65614516mlok already exists, grandpa
>>65614516S T R E A M L I N ETREAMLINE
>>65614521>keymod has entered the chat>yo>posted from a tracfone nokia
Talk me out of CCing a mark IV with a big can
>>65614550Do itThen you'll finally have an impression on your pants
>>65614462Put the gun down or else I'll toggle my flashlight on and off really fast.
>>65614456>grip safetydisgusting
>>65614516Leave the rail alone and get a better way of attaching to it. I really like Larue's qds but they have limited uses and I'm not sure how that would work on a pistol.
>didnt update my billing address on my card so my optic package is taking over a week to ship Cool
I just want a custom LCP, bros.
>>65614719ngl I like this. I'm a fan of stainless though.
>>65614725Same. I don’t mind stainless or blued, but a polished stainless looks nice.
>>65614719i like the parts kit one i got with blood pitting.
>>65614776Post. They have LCP parts kits? What?
>>65614791there are multiple companies that take police confiscations or other cheap crap destroy the frame then sell everything else as parts kits.
Pure sex
>>65614938Pretty but I don't like that weird spike on the back
>Still no Colt MRS-1 reviewsWas it all a dream?
>>65614776Cool as that may be how do you know its blood and not just a cheap Ruger rusting itself to death?
>>65614843Whats the profit margin on this compared to just selling the gun as is? Doesn't seem like a good business model.
>>65614453>Google 22 ARC>Get shitty meme AR caliberOkay, what is this?
>>65614938I've wanted this particular 1911ever since 2009s watchman movie where you get a literal glimpse of it
>>65615060I knew a guy who used to shoot 22 ARC but I have zero clue why it's used6. I'm sure there's some modicum of trajectory/range benefits
>>65614981>not just a cheap Ruger rusting itself to death?Not all Ruger's are like this, r-right?
>>65615121I have a 56 and 30 year old ruger with no rust
>>65614521>keymod exists>everyone just uses it to attach sections of pic rail
>>65615060American Rifle Company .22 LR is the gun Not to be confused with the caliber, I don’t think it has a name yet
any if you guys have an Aimpoint COA yet? How is it? I see a good deal on grabagun for a G48 with a COA for $834
>>65615264no fucking way glock makes any profit with this shit. The optic is 600
>>65615274The optic doesn't cost aimpoint 600 dollars to make.
>>65615121>>65615132Just the poly stuff with black nitride finishes
>>65615355>Black nitride finishesBut but...I thought nitride was JUST AS GOOD as chrome on AR barrels?You mean the Ruger that has the same barrel finish as military grade ARs rust??
>>65615274The aimpoint is gay garbage Buy MRS-1
>>65615274The Aimpoint isn't worth $600 and the Glock probably costs $100 to manufacture.
>>65615264Why a Glock 48? Just buy a Glock 19
>>65615360I thought the nitride that can still rust was a secret Sig technology.
>>65614453>>65614456no way they made it real
>>65615362>buy mrs-1 Post yours and a review, fag
>>65615382>What AI thinks a glock looks like.jpg
>>65614462>Just give me the most uncomfortable sand paper grips so I can keep hold on the massive recoil of 22lr
>>65614550What holster?
>Mfw the Glock 19 trigger I was bitching about earlier was just a lack of dry-fire experience and skinny fingersForgive me, Gaston.
>>65615056Vast majority they get for free on the condition that they destroy them.>>65614791I'm a little embarrassed I can't put hands on it, last time my nephew came to visit I shoved all the loose guns in locking cabinets, and that one isn't visible in any of them.I got the kit for under $40 shipped on gunbroker, they've gone up in price now that there's a printable lower. I made mine out a bar of aluminum with a dremel.>>65614981Could be something different, but it was deep pitting in one general area without rust anywhere else.
>>65615399I did. They’re great
>>65615471I was thinking mexican carry
I own 7 handguns. I love each of them of them equally. I'm terrified of breaking my streak so I have to be very careful with my next purchase.It's either going to be a 1911 or a .22LR but nothing I've seen from lurking here or looking online that gives me that "the one" feeling like my other guns
>>65615673Will it be great if I slap it on a lever action though?
>>65615745Yea because you can use a spent case to adjust elevation and windage Unlike the aimpoint shitro and garbaco
>>65614453Whats the lowest I can spend on a new TLR7X or best price for used one?
>>65614521If it's as good why do no aiming devices mount to mlok
>>65615264Tempted on getting a RXM with one
>>65614968For me it's this part. Maybe it's better in person but it doesn't look like it would be comfortable for my support hand.
>>65615360You still have to clean your guns if their nitride.
>>65615999the steam deck is better
>>65615999Bought a used 43x with a coa. They canceled my order. Just ordered an rxm coa yesterday they already shipped it. Whats fucked up is the rxm 19 size with coa is $630. The rxm coa with the full size frame is $800. The frames are $40 from magpul. Fucking loooool. PSA can be hilarious sometimes.
>>65616069
Smith and Wesson making new 1917s.https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/model-1917-classic
>>65615452It was a prototype and why would you NOT want good grip texture on every single gun? You think you're a cowboy doing flippy doops yip yappin?>>65616009Its purpose is for your support hand, so you can lock it in between that and the trigger guard and apply more downward control. These days they make magwells have retardedly oversized elephant foots up front to have that functionAlso for me it's the edges melted to oblivion. Look at the enormous gap introduced around the beavertail blend for example, it looks hideous, like a day 1 bubba blasted it on a pedistal grinder for 4 hours too long
>>65614456What the fuck is this thing
>>65616101This one looks good but can they make one? I thought Smith & Wesson lost their capacity to install threaded barrels straight, which is why they moved on to shrouded ones.
>>65616015Chrome wins again!
>>65616058I know and I miss mine, got the ally with insurance money after my ‘eck ACKed. Sure the Z1E model got better specs but its slower because its windows, only has two back buttons and its ergonomic are ok. Woulda got the X but it went outta stock.
>>65615367I got small hands fart nigger
>>65616457Stop lashing out, it’s signaling.
Tried the Px4 in .40 and it shoots real nice. Started shooting .40 with the Glock 22/23c and man this feels significantly more comfortable, like something between 9 and .40. Very cool, Beretta, very very cool.
Beretta grip retard anon back again. Decided I wanted to try and seal the pores since this is my testbed/first time refinishing wood sorta project. Anyways I have been stuck at the 400 grit stage for a week now. A whole lot of the pores and slits [this was super shitty wood to begin with that Beretta turbo coats with a bukkake of varnish to hide] are filled in but there are a few spots, mostly on the back smooth flat part here, that just will not fill in. General process is use paintbrush to add more BLO, then wet sand w/ 400 grit at decreasing severity [barely any now] to work up a slurry of blo/sawdust, finger rub it in manually as much as I can WITH THE GRAIN, let dry/wipe off excess PERPENDICULAR TO THE GRAIN, rinse and repeat.Do I just need to keep doing this? I feel like getting some good sawdust from the back and mixing up a thick slurry should fill these tiny but deep pores more easily than the slits but for some reason they just wont seal up. Any advice? After this plan is work 1-2 passes at 600 and 800 grit each, then 1500 grit, then like 7-8 coats of BLO + 3000 grit to even it out, and then a few more coats/finger polish. God help me when I have to get the excess out of the checkering though, probably should do that when the pores are sealed.
>>65616465Are these the old OEM wood grips? I won a set of those off of GB. They look nice but feel like shit to hold
>>65616465If i had this much trouble working with a quarter inch thick hobby plank of wood i'd just kill myself. You are a burden on society.
>>65616469They're the "new" ones they sell, with this weird brown/purple varnish on top that makes them look really ugly. I tried to find og ones but couldn't. >>65616470Look man it's literally my first time both refinishing wood and trying to fill in pores cut me some fucking slack. I'm mostly asking so I don't waste time trying to fuck around and mess it up since I'm trying basically to see how glass-smooth I can make the wood out of stubborn pride if nothing else.
>>65616485>pastebingrips
>>65616465Use a lower grit of sandpaper so it doesn't take forever, I would have started with 150.
>>65616463Try the 9mm compact
>>65616518I thought my car got a new rattle but it was just the brass.
>>65616518I have the 9 as well. It's really nice.
>>65616110I'd prefer a 22lr range toy to be comfortable to hold actually
>>65614981I don't, I just cope with my rusty parts kit by telling myself it has a cool story and it's not just where a drop of McDonald's Hot Mustard sauce fell on it while a "changing consumer habit" was "riding dirty".
>>65616110
>>65616661>sprite
Post your LCP, anon.
>>65616662Lemon and lime is aryan
>>65616674I'm not drinking sugar water with no caffeine in it
>>65616661Couldn't be less interestedMan McD's has been doing a rare prolonged 40% off Quarter Pounders, why on Earth would you get the most garbage of slop at full retard menu price instead of their king-tier product at half price? InsanityI'll just stick to immensely enjoying my chili thanx for ruining my evening with your frivolity
its real LCP hours
>>65616705Nice blood rust!
>>65614938Very nice
>>65614453After years of psyoping me with memes and that one Garand Thumb video I finally did it. I bought the m&p 10mm. This was about the soonest I could, too, because of the roster.Question: I intend to store a few of the mags loaded, do I still need to download them or do the cuck state mags not suffer spring wear because they have the same springs but are already down on capacity?
>>65616767b-b-but springs are only supposed to wear out from cycles not static compression!
>>65616500It's hilarious how versatile the abbreviation of my moniker is
>>65616761What Magwell?
>>65616781Nvm I read it
>>65616781>>65616786Volker precision
>>65614528Purdy>>65614509I friggen love it, but gawdamn the top of the two fingie separators needs to chill out, that looks actually pointyAlso, there better be vents cut into the top of that extension we can't see. That'll add a whopping 50% to the gun's coolness just based on what we see so far. YES I'M BIASED LOOK AT MY OTHER POST IN THIS THREAD!!!
Custom 7 inch 10mm 1911 Warrantyhawk just did for someone
>>65616778Penis breath?
>>65614550Hmmm.... how cold is it where you live?Alternatively, since this is a canned .22, just larp as Solid Snake and whack your local invasive species
>>65616818Pussy bitch. Because he a pussy bitch nigaaaa lmao.
>>65615442Worse.What Hollywood writers think a glock looks like.
>>65616767Shit, my pic!
>>65616777Listen here Jackpot boy, I'm only a mechanical engineer. I don't use science, only the finest pre-vetted fuddlore and 4chan esoteri/k/isms
>>65616816Absolutely fucking beautiful. Everything is literally perfect, with maybe a small gripe that the scope should look more classical/hunteresque, more magnification, but that's so easily solveable it ain't funny11/10mm
>>65616837It’s just a place holder, the owner is probably going to put a magnified optic. The slide is optic cut for a slide ride optic too in addition to the frame mount.
>>65616818>>65616820You snigger and jeer in spite of being utterly defeated.
>>65616778>PussyBitch
>>65616831It's not fuddlore people put loaded mags in their closet and measure the spring weight years later and it's notably lower. It would be simple to manufacture magazine springs such that they operate below the fatigue limit, or trivial to at least make the expected cycles to failure be in the hundreds of thousands. Yet the second time I load a new Beretta mag it's noticeably easier compared to the first. Why do you think that is?
>>65616885>Why do you think that is?Beretta sends wop ninjas to replace your new ones with used magazines so they can resell the fresh ones
>>65616885>the second time I load a new Beretta mag it's noticeably easierThat first one is breaking the springs hymen so after that she's loose as fuck.
>>65616885>It would be simple to manufacture magazine springs such that they operate below the fatigue limit, or trivial to at least make the expected cycles to failure be in the hundreds of thousands.If it's so simple, then do it yourself. Be the change you want to see in the world.
>>65614509>>65616803You should take a minute to look through the rest of TJs catalog of custom pistols. He's built some truly bizarre 1911s, man.
>>65616816>Warrantyhawk
>>65616921Also unfathomably based revolvers.
>still no threaded Hi-PowerWhat is wrong with the Belgians?
>>65616705LCP bros, why do we keep winning?
>>65616952They're ethnic Dutchmen with a French ruling class. Of course they don't have their shit together.
>>65616827Very cool namefag, let us know how it shoots when you get it out to the range.
>>65614453looks like the Alyx Gun that went through a diet
Behold a side safety glock
>>65617087Why would I want to do that?
>>65617087Unironically an improvement. Now give me a heel magazine release and a lanyard loop and you would have a perfect pistol
>>65617098>and a lanyard loopDo those not stab you in the palm when you're reloading the gun as hard as possible?
>>65617101So don't do that
>>65617101>reloading>training at all
>>65617098>lanyard loop LOL
>>65617112It's not physically possible with a metal frame and metal mags. I have to slam it in.>>65617113I am unironically going to start training drivebys. I ordered some steel targets to set up along the road driving in.
>>65617101I don't train reloading because you will never ever reload in a self defense scenario.
>>65617168Obviously you’re not going to make more ammo in the middle of a fight. Still should learn though
>>65617168People have?
Pawn shop near me has a S&W 19-5 6" for $699Cop or not?
>>65617338Not once in the history of mankind I'm afraid
>>65617350https://truegunvalue.com/pistol/19-5-smith-and-wesson/price-historical-valueDepends on how clapped out it is. Unless it's in immaculate shape, you don't seem to be getting a great deal
>John Wick Chapter 3 TTI Combat Master for 5.7kLowest I’ve ever seen one
You don’t ever shoot more than 3 rounds in a self defense scenario. All guns holding more than 3 rounds should be banned
>>65615682I love mine. But I find myself reaching more for the P17 because its so fucking light and easy. I recommend if you want to holster suppressed getting one that detents on a light has worked well for me.
>>65617356It's seems to be good to very good condition based on the photos on Armslist. Might be able to haggle it down to $650
>>65615682What is mexican carry, in your ass?
>>65617425Good luck. Boomers love old Smith and Colt revolvers and most places know it. I've been able to get screaming deals on Ruger revolvers because I don't think they're as popular, even amongst boomers, but I can count on one hand the times I've seen great deals on old Smith or Colt gunsIf you have considerable money to blow, go for it because feeding it is going to be expensive too (unless you already reload your ammo)
>>65617443>I've been able to get screaming deals on Ruger revolvers because I don't think they're as popular, even amongst boomersProbably about to change, since they're all discontinued now. Even if they start up production again, everyone will say "OLD RUGERS WERE MUCH BETTER!" even if they're just as good.
What is even left for revolvers?>S&W>Colt>Taurus>Uberti>Heritage>CimarronIs that it?
>>65617485You can still find them "normal priced" online but I wil ladmit I have seen people trying to sell clapped out 30 year old GP100s for 1000+Anything happening in the wheelgun sphere is bound to make waves so I give this about 6 months before you can get SP101s and Redhawks for under $500 again
>>65617511I'd probably get a Kimber or Diamondback over those bottom four
>>65615723I felt the same way about a 22LR, everyone recommends the ruger, and there is nothing wrong with it, but it didn't speak to me. The next option was a 22 version of like a Glock or M&P, and those didn't do it either.Then I found this, and I fucking love it. The right 22 is out there for you, just have to get lucky and find it.
>>65617511NAA
>>65617557>there is nothing wrong with itI have one and the riveted ejector upsets me every time I need to clean the upper tube. And with 22, the price for shooting it is mostly lots of cleaning.
>>65615723What guns do you have?If we can gauge your tastes then we might be able to give more informed suggestions
>>65617511Dont Uberti and Cimarron get their revolvers from the same source?
>>65617356>>65617425>>65617443On second thought, the place across the parking lot from that pawn shop has a 27-3 in excellent condition with original box and papers for $100 more
How much does bore axis really matter?
>>65617642About tree fiddy (hundredths of a second split times)
>>65617642Depends on how much difference there is. It's very noticeable on Chiappa Rhino. It's not very noticeable between PDP and Glock..
>>65617642Really matters from 1 foot away
>>65617655funny how self defense casualists seem to know the exact way they will need to defend themselves, and why it makes caring about your choice of gun irrelevant.
>>65617656>self defense casualistsWhat are you, playing Self-Defense Ranked? Do you exclusively gas up your car at 3 AM in Gary, Indiana?
>>65617659>What are you, playing Self-Defense Ranked?Yes, most of the people that shit on carry/self defense choices genuinely believe this.
>>65617656I don't know what you are talking about. I was talking about target shooting at 1 foot
So when is the American Rifle Company Model 22 available? It's the only new production .22LR that interests me
>>65617659i think its a very stereotypical mindset on 4chan. you try hard until you realize you arent very good, then pivot to being casual and pretending being tryhard is cringe.ask any snub revolver user what their favorite gun or class is in a game and it will probly always be the worst.
THIS JUST IN:CHICAGOBALTIMOREMEMPHIS ARE NOW CONSIDERED THE MOST /K/ APPROVED CITIES FOR SERIOUS SELF DEFENSE ENTHUSIASTS
>>65617677>i think its a very stereotypical mindset on 4chanFeel free to go back where you came from
Many guns are good. Except yours. I hate you.
>>65617733What is your favorite handgun, Anon
>>65617656half of the people who carry guns have just fabricated their own headcanon for how a self-defense situation looks while arguing that it's "realism," and it ends up sounding like the type of people who buy shitty electric cars as their only vehicle>well sure it only has an 85 mile range but how often do I need to drive more than 85 miles?>yeah, a software update can brick my car for 30 min when I need it, but how often am I in an emergencyalways sounds similar to >most self-defense shootings happen within 7 yards, ergo I will never need to hit anything beyond 7 yards>most self-defense shootings involve less than 5 rounds, ergo I will never need more than 5 rounds>all hits are equivalent, therefore minute of man is a fine standard for me>what, are you john wick? I will certainly have time to draw and rack my firearm without inducing a malfunction because I will always have time to stage my shitI can only assume that it's either people who are 5'6" and 135lb soaking wet wearing tight clothing all day so they can't fathom carrying anything bigger than a M&P shield, or retarded boomers that get assmad when people say carrying a .32 from 1981 is retarded for self-defense
>>65617782I straight up don't respect any healthy adult man that carries .380 or less. I know women that conceal carry full-size pistols and a spare mag. It's not hard.
>>65617782Not being able to understand statistics and apply them is a sign of low IQ
>>65617804t. man who cheaps out on insurance
>>65617804wild opinion when there was literally JUST a widely publicized instance of a mass shooting that could have been stopped by a ~20 yard pistol shot, but wasn't because by the defender's own admission, he was carrying something unserious and didn't train enough at longer pistol distances
>>65617829Confusing anecdotal with statistical evidence is a sign of low IQ
>>65617836every uFMEA-related risk related to a self-defense situation is a severity 4-5 and costs very little to satisfactorily remediate >probably won't happen to me, statistically speakingis not a compelling argument when the adverse effect is death. By the way, the logical conclusion of your argument is to not even bother carrying a gun because less then half a percent of people annually are involved in a self-defense shooting
>>65617782>>65617846I wear a seatbelt every time I drive a car and I keep a fire extinguisher, spare tire, and toolkit in the trunk; which is more than most people doI DON'T put on a flame-retardant jumpsuit, crash helmet, neck brace, and five-point harness in the car that I've stripped the interior and welded a roll cage intoNow, I certainly agree that ONLY preparing for what is most likely is short-sighted, but preparing for things that are more likely before worrying about what is less likely is not, in and of itself, stupidEven the people you're talking about will be fine 99% of the time.
>not daily driving a VBIEDNGMI
>>65617848>but preparing for things that are more likely before worrying about what is less likely is not, in and of itself, stupidI'm not talking about suppressing your carry gun or putting an IR laser on itthe main people that i'm criticizing are ones that don't even do this, then claim that carrying a full size handgun is retarded. There is a significant venn diagram overlap between people carrying retarded shit and people who practice their draw on a live fire range maybe 2-3 times per yearWe're talking about meeting a specific set of standards that the industry, cops, and civilian carriers have sort of independently resolved to be an acceptable qualification of competence, for instance a minimum draw to first shot from concealment of under 2 secondsa couple threads ago, there was a moron claiming that carrying with an empty chamber is better because you won't risk shooting yourself and "statistically" he could rack it before using it if he needed to, which is just one of the most braindead opinions possible
>>65617782>fabricated their own headcanon for how a self-defense situation looks while arguing that it's "realism,"Absolutely amazing that you can type this out, and then write a full paragraph of you doing exactly that. Just astonishing, please give yourself a pat on the back.
>>65617870Woman tier mental gymnastics at full display lmaoHim and Pastebin should be gay lovers
>>65617870>>65617877statistically why should anyone carry a handgun if you are overwhelmingly likely to never have to even draw it in your lifetime?
>>65617883Many people don't and most of them are fineThat's why my primary reason for owning and shooting guns is because they're cool and it's funSelf-defense is a distant third on my priority list because it's not very likely to happen and whatever I have is very likely to be good enoughIt it does and it isn't, then I only have myself to blame, but I can live with that (or die with it, as the case may be)
>tripfag is a secret antigunsWhy did I wait so long to filter?
is printing illegal if ccing in usa?
>>65617925Depends on jurisdiction and how much of an asshole the investigating officer(s) want(s) to be that day.
>>65617925I haven't used a printer in 10 years. Its all email and texts these days boomer
>>65617961>He says while making a dad joke
>>65617925Yes, it's very illegal. We have laws that regulate concealed carry, and in some cases open carry, but printing is universally banned, get those indecisive pricks outta our streets.
>>65617925Perfectly legal in my state, you only have to pretend to try and actually conceal it. Which is funny since open carry is illegal, but pulling an IDPA and "concealing" under an open fishing vest? All good.
>>65617921>missing the pointi want people to carry their unregistered god particle on their hip>>65617914i'm mostly just talking about the laziness of the "i saw an everytown for gun safety statistic that everything happens inside of seven yards so I don't train past seven yards" crew
>>65617557>oh, that's sexy>look up the disassembly procedureWhat on earth?
>>65618098Engineer logic: most people don't shoot their guns enough to warrant easy disassembly proceduresMake it work, then worry about the aftermarket later
>>65618098Easily the most fun gun to take apart that I own, slapping the barrel weight off is funny as fuck.>>65618101It's not hard, it's just weird and I'd be willing to bet entirely unique to this gun.
>>65617877>thinking about me while arguing with someone elseMany such cases!>>65617782>beyond 7 yardsCheck, last range trip was at 10 yards.>more than 5 roundsCheck, 18-round magazines.>all hitsCheck, cranial nerve centre.>drawCheck, IWB with the chamber loaded.>carrying anything bigger than a M&P shieldCheck, G17.3– I've recently been informed about IIIA-rated ballistic visors so blinding the perpetrator and aiming for armour gaps might be my only option against a Payton "Jimbo" Gendron type.
>>65617520I wouldn't touch a Diamondback, if I were you. The build quality on them is pretty poor. The Sidekick is same sort of metallurgy as the Rough Rider for 2x the price (I get that it shoots more rounds and has a swing out cylinder, but it is still cheap shit). No clue on what the SDR is like, but the Sidekick is a gun that I would avoid.>t. shot a Sidekick last year when I was looking for .22 revolvers>>65617635I think Uberti make them and Cimarron sell what Uberti make, IIRC.Just double checking on top of everything said, EAA, Standard, Charter, Pietta, Korth, Spohr, Rossi, Freedom, Manurhin and RIA all make revolvers. Pedersoli if you include black powder. I know the EAA product is not that good, not shot it, but I know it is made of pot metal and has really low end build quality and finish, but what you get for the cheap price tag it has.
>>65618194Rossi is TaurusThey even say Taurus on the frame
3 days until orders open for picrel. My question is, who is this even for? MSRP is $2900, it isn't hand made or anything, it is just a metal Glock clone.
>>65616978That will be today so keep the thread alive for 6 more hours>>65617087*shrugs* I'm unmoved
>>65618208I hate this design language a lot. But. This looks like it is made for competition shooting, and proper kind, since there's no blow holes, compensators or ports.
>>65616921I was just thereGlad to see comp pistols are so common, faith in the patricians restored
>>65618223But at that point why not just get a Laugo Alien then if you wanted some serious competition shooter in that price range? Also I just realized this gun is trying to appeal to blacks, it has silhouettes of MF Doom on the magazine.Which further adds to the question, why? Tyrone is getting himself a Taurus or a Hi-Point or just stealing something off of someone.
>>65618271>laugo>serious competition shooterexactly zero (0) nationals level shooters compete with Laugos
>>65618271This one is a Glock and as >>65618279 points out, maybe it's more fair to compare to stock Glock, which a lot of guys bring to competition events, as well as 2011, shadow, 226, 92FS, other mundane non-alien guns. It's still going to be overpriced, but it's probably going to be ok. Just ugly and expensive for no reason. Kind of like competition specific metal frame M&Ps already are, also often seen.
>>65617733I don't like his guns either.
>>65618279Eh, I don't keep up with super high end stuff, but why not? I'm not going to pretend to be an expert, so qrd.
>>65617782For me I just don't like carrying appendix. I don't care if I can conceal a full size uzi in the front of my pants. I don't say any of the stuff you said though. I shoot it a lot too so I'm not some casual like the other anon thinks. I practice my draw and reload every single time so that's like 20 draws and reloads per trip. I also don't shoot less than 10 yards at all.
>>65617852Glock makes cars?
>>65618208Rich people who joked about wanting a steel framed glock. It's just a $3000 punchline for some people. You guys always forget that there is a class of people above you who just do stuff like that for lulz. No, it's not for you and me. At no point in the design process did they consider someone like us buying one.
>>65618223I wish the knurling above the trigger guard matched the grip texture.
>>65618308It’s only legal in Open, it doesn’t really shoot any softer than a high end 2011, and it gets really fucking hot if you shoot a lot of ammo through it, so it’s annoying to train with, and it’s also hard to get all of the peripherals for it. It’s not like Double Alpha is gonna sell a holster and magnetic hangers and mag extensions for the Alien.
Just picked up this Sig
>>65618341Worse it is aluminum, but with tungsten inserts to make it feel like steel.>>65618347I guess that makes sense. (Why didn't I think of that...)
>>65617511Are Colt's new snakeguns any good? Want a 6" .357 and have narrowed it down to either a 586 or a Python but there's no way in hell I'm paying over $2k for an old school Python.
>>65618440586 is the better buy imo. Not that the new Pythons are not bad by any means. It should come down to preference the only deciding factor between the two for me was QC.
>>65618471I used way too many nots. I meant to have said "Not that the new Pythons are bad by any means." You get my point, though, Colt's QC is not always the best, at least compared to S&W's.
Why the hell did they stop making these
>>65618522Pac lite
>>65618684perennially out of stock
>>65618692Only in stock for the pure of heart
>>65618219>>65616978SHOWTIME!!!!MP 2.0 10MM, approx 20 feet/ 17 pacesWinchesters Target vs Herters TargetLADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT HAS BEEN 6 HOURS......LEEEETS GET READY TO RUMMMMMBLLLLLLE!!!
me grug carry boom. grug use birdbone *tink tink tink* no oopsies go into grugfriend cave. grug strongside... grug live or grug die... that it.
>>65618440The newer Pythons are actually pretty good. Hard to go wrong with a 586/686 but I would avoid buying a newer S&W; look for a pre-lock oneAs for the older Pythons, you can pretty easily find them for $12-1600, but expect a little bit of honest wear at that price. Here's a decent example: https://adelbridge.com/product/colt-python-357mag-23/If you keep an eye on Gunbroker auctions, you'll often see them go for cheaper. Just make sure to inspect it and check the timing & forcing cone before accepting it
Would it be foolish to get into .457 sig now?
>>65618819357*
>>65618819I don't really see the reason to get into .357 Sig. It's basically just expensive 9. Every rimless cartridge between 9mm and .45 ACP is essentially a dead round
>>65618841I have a ton of 9, .40, and .45 but part of me wants to try out more stuff. I should probably save my money and stick with what I got.
>>65618773Cripes, it got dark so fast! The dayglo white sights and the big fuckin muzzleflash were the only thing keeping me shooting straight (debateably)Had to call it for the night. Will resume tomorrow, first 40 rounds done and posting plates soon
>>65618815https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1210339409Another decent example. Not original grips but still pretty nice
>>65618871>>65618819>>65618841If you're going to get in, get in now. I've been here since before Sandy Hook and ammo prices NEVER drop and I imagine our current economic situation has about 10 years max before something REALLY bad happens and people don't have money for boutique/ less popular rounds.>but with less demand won't the price stabilize Hell no. When only rich people buy it, it rises to rich people prices. I didn't study economics but I do experience it. And occasionally ponder the benefits of an economic system that uses bullets as replacement currency. >>65618879Also, range peacock needs to go to sleep. He'll sleep well, though, now that every predator in a 4 mile radius knows to fuck offHave a pic of range peacock. I quit early so
>>65617804statistics is a fake and gay field
>>65616252Damn bro, rip.
>>65618819Only if you can reload imo
Well anons, I think I’m finally gonna do it. I’m gonna pick up a Ruger LCP.
>>65619102Why? If you need a really small carry gun, the Bodyguard 2.0 is the current meta. Personally, I would go with the CC9 or even the Masada Slim.
>>65619102Are you sure you want it?
>>65619106>>65619111>Why?>Are you sure you want it?Yes, it’s cute. I have a S&W 3913, but I do do kinda want a little cheap gun to slip in my pocket. Idk, I’ll probably change my mind again tomorrow.
>>65619131There is a thread in the catalog currently by some guy complaining about his LCP
>>65619102They're pretty swellDon't forget to practice
>>65619141No way, that’s hilarious. haha Thanks, anon. I’ll go check it out.
I bought a taurus 605 today. first revolver i've owned
>>65619181Noice! Just don't shot .357 out of it.
>>65618932>>65618879Welp, I can't put it off any longer, here are the results.What I've ve learned today is that I'm rusty from not shooting for a few months. The flinch was real.I will be back tomorrow.
>>65619261that's the spirit, Anon. Keep it up!
>>65618271>MF DOOM magazine >Company is called Zev>DOOM used to be known as Zev love X when he was in KMD with his brother.Kino
>>65619261>Long holesWhat ammo are you using? Looks like it's tumbling fairly frequently.
>>65619305ZOMG
just found this prototype 22 in an auction. i wan it
>>65619309>tumblingi think thats just the way its hitting the bowl
>>65619454>10mm deflected by paper bowl
>>65619305>You could find 'em in the pub with the grub stain>Chuggin' on a small tub of pain to his bugged brain
>>65619369How will you get spare parts
>>65618271>I just realized this gun is trying to appeal to blacksExcept for a girl I once dated I have never met a black person who knew who Doom (PBUH) was.
>>65618271I only know a white guy and an asian guy who wanted an alien.
>>65616661>burgers still get real mcflurry
what pistol should I get if i want to feel like a cowboy
>>65619540What era of cowboy?
>>656195401911.
>>65619550there are multiple eras?
>>65619540Honestly, just get whichever modern .357 Magnum revolver with a 3 or 6" barrel depending on whether you want to CC it or not, that you think looks the coolest. If you buy a modern repro of an old gun, it's just gonna rot in its case
>>65619570s&w 686, colt python, or manhurin mr73?
>>65619540mateba 6 unica
>>65619581>$600 gun, $1200 gun or $4000 gunGee, I dunno, Anon. You tell me
>>65619581MR73 is the best of them, but the most expensive. Personally, I say ditch all of those and get a Ruger Vaquero or Blackhawk before prices go up.>>65619570Some of them have modern features, but I agree, at least for the .45 Long chambered models. I am curious about the .38 SP ones only because I want a top break and most top break revolvers are repros. If you do wind up getting a repro Taylor's & Co. sell a Uberti Cattleman II with a .357 and a 9mm cylinder, so you can shoot .357, .38 SP and 9mm out of the gun.
>>65619458its not tumbling, idiot, its scraping the side of the bowl
>>65619565Antebellum (1840s-1860) [really more "proto-cowboys"]Postbellum (1865-1870s)Indian Wars (1870s-1890s)Pulp novel/showman (1880s-1910s)Late Era "Wild Bunch" (1900s-1920s)Also, the job title of "cowboy" refers to a ranch hand who herds and drives cattle to market. It still exists to this day. Most people referred to as "cowboys" either never did the work or only did it seasonally.
>>65619581a plain 686 is the standard base for a competition revolver. lots and lots of aftermarket + all gunsmiths know how to work on them. a 686 + a tuning package from a reputable smith is a smart choice.
>>65619618Anon that is not how it works
What is your best gun? Tell me about it.
>>65619677H&K USP chambered on .45 acp.>Polished feeding ramp: Made to a mirror sheen.>Reinforced slide: Built for extra durability.>Tightened interlock: The fit with the frame is tightened for added precision.>Original sight system: Retains the standard sighting setup.>Extended thumb safety: Made longer to be easier on the finger.
>>65619677my weiner cuz its about 7 inches long and i shoot hot loads into your mom on a daily basis
>>65619647then why are the bullets only 'tumbling' right at the dip?
>>65619724Survivor bias as the ones that tumbled went to the edge of the plate while the ones that stabilized hit toward the center. You can even see on the bottom right plate a couple hit the edge but didn't tumble, anon was just flinching.
>>65619240its awesome. just picked it up
>>65618208Black people like zev a lot from what I've seen. So black people with disposable income.>>65618362>Aluminium with tungsten insertsWow, for a few hundred less you can buy a steel framed Glock made by matrix in New Hampshire and even get it in Burt blue.
>>65618308The other anon covered most of it, but it also is kind of bad for comp shooters who get free ammo and shoot thousands of rounds a week. Since the recoil goes more directly back into the hand and wrist rather than rolling the hands upwards. According to Ben stoeger it "holocausted" his hands almost like a 40.
>>65619813Congrats anon
>>65619813That actually looks pretty sweet for a taurus
>talking to father about guns>mention that I am going to get a CZ75B >says its good but suggests that I should just get a Canik MC9 Prime Radian instead>pulls out copy of American Rifleman and points to itI might as well ask, what do you guys think of the Canik. I am not sold on it. Looking at the trigger I can tell I am not going to like it, but I might make myself get used to it. Is the Prime Radian any better than a Glock (just for the sake of an apples to apples comparison).>inb4 Turkshit (I really wanted to say this to him, but I didn't)
>>65620028Your dad sounds like the average honest outlaw viewer.
>>65620028Every time someone tries to put a comp on a canik it turns into a weird problem. I’d pass on that basis alone. The triggers are okay, but for the price they’re being charged for now, you could get a Walther and have something that wasn’t molested by roaches.
>>65620028I shot a guy’s canik (some full-size model) the other day, it was nice. Compared to my Nighthawk 2011 I would probably get the same scores/hits. Feature wise it’s jam packed with everything compared to the antique that’s the CZ75B, just tell him you want a classic gun and he’ll get it. Compared to a Glock what the Canik lacks in reputation/reliability they make up in features and accessories. I think the MC9 is the worst gun canik makes (tons of issues I’ve heard) compared to their more straight forward Walther clones Comps and ports I think are a retard magnet, just fucking do your reps, do your dry fire, and you won’t need one. I myself have gone down the path of barrel ports and compensators, it’s valuable training tool to learn about shooter input but I wouldn’t carry one and shoot just as good without
>>65620052>Comps and ports I think are a retard magnet, just fucking do your repsfactory porting and comps are usually pretty trash but stuff like monsoon tactical's porting work is pretty great on small shit like the g43
What would you choose as a do it all handgun, shadow 2 compact, m&p 2.0 compact 4 inch? Or simply cajunise an existing cz 75 compact instead of either
>>65620095Shadow 2 CARRY
>>65620070Factory rice has always been shit
>>65620095m&p w/ apex trigger is nigh unbeatable for its price.
Pistol came in today. Trigger doesnt seem too bad. Will shoot in the next day or two.
>>65619724>>65619782It's like when those bullets enter the skull and then travel along the inside of it and exit going downwards. The "tear" is just from the heat of the bullet cooking the bowl.
>>65620050>>65620052So it seems to be that I should skip the MC9. Also forgive me for being so indecisive, I just want to make sure that I get the very best. I originally was just thinking about a M88A, but then I remembered that I am not a poorfag, so I can do better. That said $250 for a wood grip stainless M88 is tempting. I went from that to a Tanfoglio Witness to a CZ75B. The inner poorfag still says M88A and then do a DIY trigger and sear job. I have done one in the past on my father's Beretta Bobcat he bought used.I don't know bros. The 75 still seems best as far as what I am interested in.
>>65620289I wouldn't get an m88A. Single stack with dubious support for things like magazines and holsters. You can still do work on a cz 75 yourself and if anything there's going to be more options and information on how to do so.
>>65620289You've been back and forth on this CZ-75B. for weeks now. If your heart isn't in it, don't drop hundreds of dollars. Personally, I love my CZ-75 (pre-B) but it's basically a range toy compared to my other guns. If I had to buy another CZ, I'd probably go with one of their newer models. The CZ-75B, to me, isn't old enough to be "retro" and it's not new enough to take advantage in 50 years of advancements in modern technology. It just occupied this weird middle ground.
>>65620347Bro, just ignore your dad and get the Cz-75You clearly really want one
>>65620289>the very bestNone of the shit you're mentioning is the best anything. It's all fine stop sperging and buy a gun.
>>65620352>>65620354I love it, but really it boils down to it versus the Tanfoglio options out there. My father knows I am indecisive so when he points to shiny new guns with fresh reviews he knows that I will look at them for a bit. The other guy is right, I am sperging a bit.I will say that I prefer tried and true over fresh and shiny, because before he suggested for me to buy a H9, since he knows I like 1911 ergonomics.
>>65620095i went for the compact
anyone have thoughts about Rost Martin? Im looking to get my first handgun, came across this bundle with 4 mags, carrying case, and an optic attached for $499. are they any good?Im on a bit of budget, but since it comes with all those extras it seems worth spending a little more to have everything I need right away. My other option for a more budget friendly handgun would be a Derya DY9Z for like $230, that doesnt come with any extras but is a good deal and seems like it might work nice for me. The guy at my local shop was a big fan of this one, and i was going to go with it until I saw the rost martin bundle.
>>65620380Oh god another rost martin guy.Wait did the first RM guy do a range report?
>>65620384>Oh god another rost martin guy.>Wait did the first RM guy do a range report?nigga im not a "rost martin guy" i have never even shot one before, im brand new to all this thats why i am asking questions.
>>65620384No. He is being dumb. >>65620380I own 2. I like them. Grips are ok, trigger is crisp but heavy with a nice clear wall. Overall decent for the price But I've been running into 10+ FTEs with my comp version recently. I asked them to buy a new recoil spring and they fucking told me recoil springs aren't a consumable item and don't need to be replaced. I got them to send me one so I can test my FTE problem.
>>65620389>But I've been running into 10+ FTEsinteresting this is good to know. i am a no guns fag, trying to just get something for emergencies the world seems to be going crazy. any thoughts on the derya dy9z?
>>65620393No idea what they are sorry. I'm hoping a new spring fixes my problems. I hadn't run into any issues, our haded 12/2025.
>>65620377I hear that the certain models of Tanfoglio are flatter shooting, but wouldn't know firsthand. Honestly money is not an issue. I could opt for the 75 Legend if I wanted to, but I don't see anything it has is better than a B and my gripe with the SP-01 is front heaviness, but that is about it.>>65620380Sir, a second RMfag has hit the General.>>65620384No LOL. He's still waiting on the optic.
>>65620397>He's still waiting on the optic.
>>65620398I accidentally hit enter but I was laughing irl
>>65620397>RMfagBLOODY FUCK YOU BLOODYis it a meme gun?
>>65620406>is it a meme gun?They're good for the money. Customer service is decent, I've been able to speak to their gunsmith on the phone a few times for my problems. Overall ok
>>65620413im a neet so this will likely be the only pistol I will buy for years if not the rest of my life. i just need somthing that wont let me down if someone tried to break into my house.
>>65620406i think they partnered with arex to basically make an american arex delta. reviews seem okay but the complaints i see online are usually about the trigger.
>>65620417My original RM that I won in 2024 has been flawless so on that I'd suggest them. My comped one started this FTE nonsense last month, so I stopped carrying it and went back to my 226 for now. You would need a new red dot, I wouldn't trust that one it comes with. Most are plastic.
>>65620380Just buy a Glock, it's not that hard
>>65620423Glocks cost more overall. RM is a good pistol with decent mags. The irons are fine and the trigger is good but heavy.
If you're only going to buy one gun, just buy a Glock 19. Unlimited aftermarket, cheap mags, unlimited parts availability, probably no handgun has been tested more than the Glock 19I'm not even a Glock guy but why go for these weird obscure guns with like zero install base over the most popular handgun in the US for decades?
>>65620423If I were neetanon I would just buy a used glock 19 or 48 or something and shoot w/ irons. Then again I haven't tried the rm1c so I can't say for sure anything about it.
>>65620423whats the average price for a basic one?
>>65620430500+
>>65620427im going to look more into this, maybe get a used one to cut the cost a bit. thanks
Henlo frensI like my USP Compact 45It's comfy in the hand, pretty to look at, and not awful to shoot and carry concealedThat's all I got today, happy friday eve
>>65620437Ty fren. Glad u like usp.
i can get a glock 19 with 3 mags brand new for 539 from a local store. going to consider this for now thanks anons.
>>65620435>>65620430If you can't find a good deal on a Glock 19 and are a turbo poor fag, just get a Ruger RXM. It's literally a Gen 3 Glock 19
>>65620430If you go new, a glock 19 is probably around 550 including shipping and tax I think? I might be wrong. Definitely price check for yourself on gun.deals. My LGS was selling them for slightly less than that. The 19 also isn't the only glock so do some research if you think a 48 or some other model might be the right one for you. And you can also buy something used for cheaper. I haven't tried the CZ P10C but that's also an option that's cheaper I think. Dunno what the consensus is on that here.
>>65620443I've shot rxm. RXM triggers actually suck.
>>65620446>gun.dealsmy neighborhood shop charges $55 for a ffl transfer. is this pretty standard?
>>65620449That's fucked lol. My ffl has a $20 transfer fee.
>>65620446>I haven't tried the CZ P10Ci was actually the guy who posted a few days ago about a used CZ P10C, but it was already sold when i got to the local shop they hadnt updated their website yet.
>>65620449Kike shop.
>>65620455Woman owned actually.Ive shopped around a bit and met a couple other ffl dealers around that seemed like solid guys, i didnt get their ffl transfew price and both of them didnt take cards at the moment. My purchase permit expires the 11th so ive got a little time to shop around, there is also a gun show in my city this weekend can you get better deals at those?
>>65620458>there is also a gun show in my city this weekend can you get better deals at those?Not usuallyIf you just want a basic bitch gun that will out live you and be good in every situation, just buy this. We can tell you where/what to buy ammo, which holster to get, which magazines to buy, etc. This will solve 99% of your gun needs foreverhttps://aimsurplus.com/products/leo-trade-in-glock-17-gen-4-9mm-handgun-black
Anyone on this board from Michigan and have an ffl you like that deserves support?
>>65620475Size. Use handgunhero website to see a size comparison. Also Glock 48 smaller.
>>65620480yea i should have just searched it lol. thanks a lot for the feed back guys
Don't buy the Glock 48. It's fucking single-stack. It's made for cuck states and women
>>65620491It's a nice slim gun (btw i'm gay and trans) but anon should probably get a 19 as a do all.
>>65620491It's double stack you stupid nigger. It comes with clock DS mags. I own 5 Glock brand DS mags for it. It comes with 2.
>>65620497If I'm getting a Glock smaller than the 19, I'm getting the 43x. If I want to let my wife know it's okay to mess around with the mailman, I'm getting a 48.
>>65620497are those the shield arms ones?
>>65620508Literal dumb nigger trying to make gay jokes about nothing. 48 is just slimmer but still DS.
the 48 is cool but it looks so wrong in 2 tone
>>65620509Genuine Glock brand glocknades
im leaning towards brand new G19 with 3 mags for $540 and I can just go pick it up tomorrow. I keep seeing all these warnings about the iran war picking back up and countries telling their citizens to stock up for an emergency so I want to just have it in my hand asap before anything happens (it never does)
>>65620518shieeeeeeeeeeeet
>>65620520It isn't a terrible idea. RM is fine but you aren't saving much.
>>65620520I wouldn't go crazy over that but you should get a gun anyway and train with it because guns are cool, and being a responsible armed citizen is cool. I would get that glock.
>>65620524yea when you said the optic is shit anyway i figured that was a major selling point for the bundle down the drain.
>>65620491dont they make 15 round mags for it now?
>>65620530i forgot to mention, the one guy I talked to in the town over, said the Rost Martin is a Glock 19 clone, im not sure if that means much or not
>>65620534Yes. >>65620497Glock branded 15 rounders for 43x and 48
>>65620536Every fud and retard calls any poly striker a Glock clone
i think its a little hard to rack the slide on my cz shadow 2 compact, because theres almost nothing to grab ontowhen i get my red dot on, should i rack with it?
>>65620520Just be aware that you're gonna be spending a decent amount on ammo (we'll guide you) and a holster if you want to CC so if $540 is pushing you to your limit, you may want to think of a cheaper option. But, yes, a Glock 19 is pretty much the one handgun that can do it all
>>65616705>>65616669wish they made the lcp in 32acp
>>65620552>is pretty much the one handgun that can do it allthis is a big selling point for me. I wont be CC any time soon because I dont have a permit which my state requires. I would rather spend a little more now for something that will last me for potentially the rest of my life, than get something that wont hold up long or potentially will gives me a problem in an emergency situation. When i was watching a couple videos of the derya, one guy only had problems with it when he used certain brands of off market mags that supposedly fit any glock clones https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLqWh80XR0 what ammo would you suggest?btw im so glad I posted on here i have already learned so much from you guys, thank you thank you!
>>65620542You can.
>>65620566>off marketafter marker** / third party
>>65620566>what ammo would you suggest?Federal HST in whatever weight you will normally shoot, 115 is most common 9mm. But you'll need to test a few self defense loads to make sure it'll cycle. My 226 won't cycle federal lawman stuff but it'll cycle gold dots and HST
do you carry +1?
>>65620569>cyclecycle meaning firing through a whole mag without any issues?
>>65620569>>65620566Buy the packs that say law enforcement and they're half the price per bullet vs the ones marketed to civilians. Same product afaikhttps://trueshotammo.com/products/federal-9mm-p-124-grain-hst?variant=42242824011881
>>65620575Correct. Some pistols don't like some loads. So you'll want to buy a couple hundred to be sure honestly. You're more than likely fine with whatever you buy but just test it.
>>65620577Aye. Also trushit are a bunch of niggers. Tried to charge me $20 to pick up ammo in store from an online order
>>65620583I've only used them once but it was alright. TSUSA got me on the membership thing so now I have to order from them and make the savings go up!
>>65620566for self defense ammo (JHP) I use federal hsts. you can get a box of 50 for about 30 bucks. speer gold dot is fine too. hornady critical defense is fine as well but way overpriced so i would just stick with federal.for range ammo (FMJ) I go blazer, fiocchi, s&b. 115g and 124gr are what i get.you need to test your gun to see if it likes whatever self defense ammo you decide to stick with. and don't forget to oil your gun a little, some guns want to run more wet than others. glocks should be fine with a tiny bit of lube.
>>65620592>>65620581does grain size actually make much of a difference that you can notice when firing?
>>65620566>what ammo would you suggest?For training? Anything that says CCI Blazer (black box), Federal (Red box) or Fiocchi (blue box) in 115 or 124 grain. For defense, I use Speer Gold Dot. I order it online. Never buy ammo in a brick and mortar store
>>65620602Ya, you can feel the difference between 115/124/147. Mostly fine with 115 for terminal ballistics, I carry 124 HST so I shoot 124 ball.
>>65620603so like this one is good for training purposes?
>>65620620Yup. Also you can use ammoseek to look up decent websites for cheaper price per round . If you wanted to not use trushit
>>65620620https://ammoseek.com/ammo/9mm-luger?ikw=blazer&ca=brass&sh=lowestI usually use ammoseek and filter for brass case ammo and for free or conditionally free shipping
>>65620559The LCP is a ripoff of the p32, chambered in 32acp. It's lighter and holds more bbs.
>>65620620Yep. use ammoseek to compare ammo prices on different websites and use filters. buying in bulk = cheaper per cartridge prices. I usually buy 1000 rds at a time but do so according to your budget ofc.
>>65620520Hard to beat it, but a g45 might be a bit better. Compact guns get annoying to draw and shoot. But you can always get a magwell or something.
>>65620620I just bought 500 rds of 9mm from ugly bullets for $120 shipped. In the description, they only state the grain weight and that they are not reloaded. Weeeeeeeeeeee!
>>65620660Ezpz good job. Didn't over pay
>>65620447Just like stock Glocks,
>>65620566r/gundeals often has an offer from a company that sells 100 rds of HP for $60 shipped. Its either hst or gold dot. I personally buy gold dot 124 +p for under $600 for 1k rounds when I see it on sale.
>>65620666Meh, I was just saying I like the rost martin trigger over the rxm. Stock Glock is ok
>>65620664I have purchased thousands of rounds of range ammo from them. They had some Stacccato factory seconds real cheap at one point.
>>65620673I stick with SGammo out of spite. Fuck trushit for trying to charge an in person pick up fee.
I promise that I will shut the fuck up after this, but can anyone tell me about the Tanfoglios against the CZ75s?I found a Tanfoglio Defiant Stock I 9mm for $650 new. Not sure if this is the best deal out there, but normally it is a $1200 gun.Also my father said something that if I interpreted him correctly was retarded.>heavier guns will have more recoil and muzzle flip Back to physics class for him. So yeah, I am just going to get the CZ or Tanfoglio and maybe the Zastava because it is cheap enough for me to tinker with and get it to being as good as it can be.
>>65620693for me its the cz p01
>>65620693If you are wanting a bunch of informed internet strangers to validate your decision, maybe you should take a step back. Think about what you ACTUALLY want in this firearm. I have never agonized over a gun purchase. It either sparks joy or I feel nothing. Also fuck Zastavas. Reddit gun
>>65620289>I just want to make sure I get the very bestThen get a Glock
>>65620712Zastava AKs are goodHandguns, they're not the best. They served a purpose once but now are relics
>>65620729NTA but their AKs are solid yep. weren't their handguns overpriced as hell at some point?
>>65620712It does spark joy at the idea of having a 9mm that is low recoil and a consistent accurate shooter and fits my hands fairly well, so steel construction and slimmer than a Beretta 92 (which is a slightly too wide for my hands to comfortably hold). I also want something that cuts through hype and will last a long time. I am a manlet, but not a target (dwarfish, I would say). I got hit with "CZ is a gun for men, the Canik is for manlets like you, Anon".>>65620736The new ones still are. What I am looking at is $250 which is fine for a wooden grip stainless finish model, but the other anon is right. Only reason why I want a Tokarev is that is what my great uncle had in the police (this was in the USSR, thank goodness the folks were smart enough to come over to the US), so a 9x19 version sounds tempting. The alternatives are the FEG which go for $700+ or the Norinco which is honestly even more Reddit and I would sooner trust Yugoshit over Chinkshit.>>65620722Glocks have a mushy trigger out of the box, though.
>>65620751Honestly it sounds like you should just buy a 92, get thin grips from LOK and get the TJIAB. Or just buy a CZ and send it to CGW if the trigger bothers you
>>65620754I was thinking of Cajunizing the CZ, but this is where the Tanfoglio comes in (Defiant Stock I specifically), since it has the same weight of trigger pull as the CGW kit provides and has fully adjustable sights, but I have a hard time finding reviews on the 9mm Defiant Stock Is. Consider that a CZ75B is $600 in most cases while a Defiant Stock I is on sale at $700. If we look at Cajunizing then the CZ not the better deal. Money isn't that much of an issue I am just being a proverbial Jew with things. It is 90% the same gun, only thing that is different is the trigger pull and weight distribution.Also I shot the 75B as a rental and I did not mind the trigger pull, I also shot a Glock 19 the same session and found it to be mushier than what I liked.
>>65620771Honestly, even with all your whacky parameters, assuming you're an American I would get A cz over the tangfolio. I'd probably get a more modern version but there should be way more parts, mag and holster compatibility with the CZ over the Tang
>>65620777That settles it. I am American by the way. Excuse me for bean counting, I just saw the deal and read up on the gun.
>>65620785I would look into the SP-01 and the P-01 before going with the 75B. They just seem like natural upgrades of that platform
>>65620792Will do too. I have thought about the SP-01.
whose actually making the best mid range 1911s (500-2000ish)? Colt and Springfield fucking suck. Is Tisas genuinely the only company making non-mim guns under 3k?
What would an HK 1911/2011 be like bros…
>>65620847Wilson combats are sometimes under 2k, Les Baers often but I’ve seen some things that make them not attractive inside, Dan Wesson? But I’ve had some issues with them. Stop being a pussy and buy American
>>65620850full of mim parts and plastic with mold lines, just like all of their other guns?
How can I get an American 1911 that looks like this
>>65620869Colt 1911, buying a used customized 1911, not being retarded
>>65620869The bottom 3 are literally standard A1s except one has a Hogue wraparound grip
>>65620095If the cost isn't a factor I'd get the shadow 2 compact and switch the grips to some wood. Optics would be really nice on my compact and that comes ready.
>>65620095PX4 CompactNighthawk 2011
>>65620712No, I like my EZ9.
>>65620379Nice choice.
I have a question but I'm saving it for the next thread
>>65620389They didn't even want to sell you a spring?
>>65620437I've never actually handled a compact. I'll have to try that this weekend.
>>65620453Bummer.
My LGS was selling a USP 45 Compact but once I found out it doesn't have mag comparability with the full-size I walked away in disgust
>>65620514I like this but I don't want that gun.
>>65620520Nothing like a gun to put your mind at ease. It's been so long since I was noguns but I remember it.
I just got a gas pedal for my xmacro and now I need a new IWB holster. What holster should I get which would accommodate that?
>>65620869>literally every single 1911 manufactured from 1910 through 2007 and 92% from 2008 through 2020I don't know man it's a long shot good luck
Got tomorrow morning off. Might try to get up early and hit the range before work. We'll see what happens when I inevitably dilly-dally the morning away.
RXM in 10mm when?
Beretta 96 chambered in 10mm when
i missed itFUUUCk
>>65621195rip
>>65621195Damn, I used to live in St Auggies. Shoutout to whoever got that deal
>>65621208Probably some faggot boomer
>>65621082>>65621104Never
>>65620850They were going to make a 1911 but Vickers and Hackathorn convinced them to make the HK 45C instead because of 1911 market saturation at the time.
>>65620693>>heavier guns will have more recoil and muzzle flipMuzzle flip no. If they have heavy slides then you might get more of a recoil impulse due to all the reciprocating mass. Some people try to mitigate this by installing heavier reaction springs, but then that just makes the return to battery impulse more snappy.
>>65620052Could you elaborate further on porting and comps? I got back into guns recently and enjoyed a few comped rentals. I figure if you work at it and attain stronger fundamentals the porting would only work in your favor, no? Cheers
>>65621560Not him, but porting/comps are supposed to help with recoil mitigation. However, you can train for all this and not need them.
>>65621564This is why 50AE is the BARE MINIMUM for serious self defense
>>65621560Once you understand that it’s not about stopping the gun from moving, recoil “control” is a fool’s errand, what really matters is getting the gun back on target. Understanding how much input you need to bring the muzzle back down to where you want is how you actually shoot fast. A compensator or port theoretically reduces the amount of input you need to get back down to your POA or “zero”, but at 9mm standard pressure is kind of just a gimmick. https://youtu.be/SQubpTzHUnwLike if you do double drills, two rounds as fast as you can at a point of aim, any round that is below your POA is you putting too much input in your return to zero. Any above is not enough input. A compensator doesn’t actually make your gun any faster returning to zero, you still need to put in input and putting in the right amount of input with an uncomped gun will be just as fast. Another thing is training your eyes to see fast, to see your red dot back on target so you can react to seeing a flash of red where you want to shoot versus just predicting that your gun is back on target. A compensator theoretically prevents the muzzle rise and so you shouldn’t “lose” the dot or point of aim, but if you can see fast then it’s not super useful.
>>65621564aside from more places to clean and general added complexity, they can't really hurt your shooting though, right?
>>65621577Bad ports/comps shave the jacket and create inaccuracy, the shaved jacket being expelled from your ports as shrapnel is a hazard to your eyes + muzzle blast to the eyes isn’t great, the increased muzzle blast will make shooting in enclosed spaces more uncomfortable and disorienting. I shoot 10mm and .45, actually I had some strings at my last steel challenge where I was faster with 10mm than 9mm so maybe I’m not an unbiased source
>>65621584I have my eye on a CR920XP, maybe a CR920XL would be a better choice, I have been considering the XL for other reasons
>>65621577I don't know about hurting your shooting but it can induce failures if I recall correctly. Some ammo may no longer work. Don't know how prolific that is though.
>>65621589what I think would be a good option is a gun you can get an unported barrel or otherwise convert back to uncomped. you can then understand shooter input much better being able to swap between the same gun's configurationplus you can then compete in uncomped and comped divisions if you would like
>>65621600>switch between comp and non compedBasically just have two slides. One comped/ported and one not. maybe I should get my glock comped and ported for shits and giggles.
>>65621603>>65621600I should be able to get two new pews by fagstate permit-to-purchase come May, one will likely be factory comped for aforementioned shits and giggles, probably a Glock/VP9/509 for a more serious home defense gun. I already have an OG stock Shield too
>>65621603or just swapping the barrel
>>65620397>I could opt for the 75 Legend if I wanted to, but I don't see anything it has is betterI may be biased but I think the Legend is much nicer than my B. The trigger in my B feels springy? meanwhile the Legend does not and the milled frame is feels better. Polished barrel too and looks better. I personally prefer CZs without the FPB
To anybody with a Browning Buck Mark, do you notice any zero shift after you remove the top strap for disassembly? I want a classic plinker and also a classic plinker with a dot and a suppressor; on a Ruger Mark the barrel is the firearm so you wind up with two firearms but with the Buck Mark you could just have one frame (the firearm) and then swap barrels and straps. But if every time I do that the zero is going to shift around, I'd rather just have two firearms and then it makes sense to get the Ruger[s] instead.
>>65621104I know at least one guy has converted a 96 to 10mm decades back. I think he cut and welded the frame to add length. If Beretta made a 10mm based on the steel frames though that would be awesome.
>>65621577They can hurt reliability, and produce more felt noise, which is very bad in a confined space like a car or a hallway. They also make the gun bigger.
>>65621439How’d that work out?
>>65619309That's perspective.Either that or I need to consider DIYing some armor out of these stupid bowlsNeed to improve my target setup badly
>>65621914Navy SEALs adopted it as the Mk 24 Mod 0.
>>65621984how was the herters and winchester 10mm? (pretty sure they're made in the same factory)
>>65621987they also adopted the Glock 26 as the Mk26, but you don't see retards going around calling their chode Glock "the navy seal gun"
>>65622039Well they should.
>>65621445I was going to tell him that but he was halfway to bed. It was kind of stupid what he had said with muzzle flip. For recoil, the frame should matter too.>>65621751Noted. Is it worth the $500 difference?
>>65621780>To anybody with a Browning Buck Mark, do you notice any zero shift after you remove the top strap for disassembly?First, you're not really meant to do it that often Maybe a deep cleaning every year or so.Second, maybe a little at like 50 yards. If you're not shooting bullseye with it you won't really notice
im getting a pink gun. dont laugh.
>>65622044>Is it worth the $500 difference?I think only you can answer that for yourself, AnonWait... $500? How much do you think a CZ-75B is? Those things are cheap as fuck
>>65622064New is $600 current day (according to gun.deals unless things have changed in the two days since I last checked), used is like $400 sometimes less, new for a Legend is $1100, I didn't bother checking used because of how new it is. Pre-B surplus is like $450 from a supplier I found.Maybe I am barking up the tree.
>>65621984Get one big enough for your head then put a chin strap on it.
>>65622072>barking up the treeUp the wrong tree, but you get the idiom.
how is gun control even real?how can "shal not be infringed" repeatedly be infringed?
>>65622072Unless you have intense autism, don't even consider the pre-B. Mags are borderline unobtanium, CGW won't touch it and there's zero support from CZ themselves
>>65622086just because I banned all guns doesn't mean I'm infringing. Also it says militia so it only applies to the militia. etc.
>>65622089I wrote them off for the exact reason you described. I was thinking of B or Legend, but the SP-01/P-01 anon sounds like he has a fair suggestion.
>>65622086America was a very different place, things were very very dark, we gave women the right to vote and it fucked everything up. Prohibition and its consequences are one of the worst things to happen to America
>>65622086It all came from trying to keep guns away from blacks
>>65622101We really need a list of every politician that voted for the Hart-Cellar Act and enshrine it in history as the worst sin democracy after committed>>65622097I don't think you'll be disappointed with either. I would lean towards the P-01 because it seems easier to conceal
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