Boy Love Edition>What language(s) are you learning?>Ask questions about your target language!>Help people who want to learn a new language!>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!>Do not reply to the Jordanian!!>Make frens!Read the wiki:https://4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki**Comprehensible Input Wiki**https://comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_PageUseful links:>Free language‐learning book archive:https://mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw>Books on linguistics and language courses:https://mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:https://pastebin.com/ACEmVqua>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by familyhttps://theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/>/lang/ inpoot torrentshttps://rentry.org/inpoot>Refold Anki deckshttps://rentry.org/refold>Non-English piracy siteshttps://fmhy.net/non-englishPrevious Thread:>>225852097
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>>225920844yall mind if a white boy speaks a lil español tonight?
>>225920844Fuck off fag this isn't /cm/
can you understand his english? https://youtube.com/watch?v=5DKLc2yfOak
>>225921477>Y’all be laughing but you don’t know how hard it is to speak ancient Egyptian.I keked>>225921244Nope
Are there any arab learners here? I wanna help you and answer your questions
>>225922816Arabic learners*
>>225922816There's some other Turkish guy learning Arabic here.
Last bump before bed
I love you guys, but this theme... I just don't really want to post in this thread.
Good morning.Much like learning a language, boy love is impossible after the age of 25. You only have a finite number of years of being a hot twink before it's over for you.
>>225926066There's no scientific proof that you can't learn a language after 25.
>>225926093"Science" is whatever the powers that be want it to be. You don't make any money by telling goys the truth. Courses, textbooks, educational programs, it's a billion dollar industry. Imagine telling people it's impossible and you lose most of your market. Ahmed can totally integrate at 30 years old, he's practically a blank slate, but it will take many years of government funded education of course. Also takes this experimental mystery juice for a flu with 99.999999% survival rate, I promise it won't have side-effects :)I'm permastuck, I don't need a study to tell me what's in front of my eyes.
>>225926168Loser mentality.
>>225927422Are you winning, Ivan? Tell me your language learning achievements.
i did 3500 reviews today over 5 hours
>>225927552Finished two chapters of chink manga unaided yesterday, what of it?
>>225927575So you're in your first year? Thought so.
>>225927556What language?
>>225926066hop on estrogen
>>225926168Find a different hobby then, because this one is clearly driving you mad and causing you enough distress to be a bitch about it on the internet.I'm in my mid 30s and my Portuguese is getting really good.
>>225920844i wanted to improve my spanish but a mexican poster in /lat/ told me i can only post there if i spit on the israeli flag and when i told him israelis are friends he called me a nazi
>>225927665Much like learning a language, the trannies that get the best results are the ones that start taking hormones in childhood, not when they're 25. The agepill is brutal and encompasses every domain.>>225927685Every skill-based hobby is like this unfortunately. You're fucked if you actually care about getting good beyond mediocre.>I'm in my mid 30s and my Portuguese is getting really good.My German was getting really good until it didn't. If you haven't spent 3+ years on a single language, you don't have the context to understand what I'm talking about.
>>225927767>My German was getting really good until it didn'tyes that's what ALG says will happen but people don't believe it until it happens to themPeople who speak early don't know about their ceiling/plateau, they think they'll just keep growing. It's very rare for a structural method learners' ceiling to be higher than 70% in a language like Thai even if they're also getting input. https://youtu.be/Gal92k-EtBw?t=5963>You're fucked if you actually care about getting good beyond mediocremaybe ALG was just right all alonghttps://direct.mit.edu/jocn/article-abstract/24/4/933/27741/Explicit-and-Implicit-Second-Language-Training?redirectedFrom=fulltextyou just damaged yourself from the beginning and got the results that you'd get because of it. all the other people here will experience the same thing except the undamaged ones who did ALG right from the start (me)sorry mate, see you later. my German is going smoothly
>>225927767>>225928072just to give you an example, im at 94 hours and I can already understand Peppa Pigmeanwhile, the Dreaming Spanish learners (who don't follow ALG and start damaged) only understand after 150 hoursin the best case scenario (usually they can't understand it even after 200 hours)for Japanese the same, I'm basically undamaged compared to these people https://www.reddit.com/r/CIJapanese/comments/1tig5ge/comment/omu6zp3/https://www.reddit.com/r/CIJapanese/comments/1tatan0/200_hours_downmany_more_to_go/im at 178 hours of Japanese and I watch videos of higher difficulty than both those people too. the difference? they damaged themselves with Anki, with classes, with Genki (a textbook). i never studied Japanese in my life.it's just like Marvin Brown described:>Take our curve (up from zero, bending to the right, and leveling off to 100) and put it in a box. Then watch what happens to it as we apply two different forces to the box: ‘how much’ and ‘how right’. A lowering of ‘how much’ (lower understanding) lengthens the box (it takes longer to get the same result). A lowering of ‘how right’ flattens the box (it squeezes down the result). When ‘how much’ falls to 50% understanding, for example, the box stretches the curve out to twice the length (everything takes twice as long), and a 60% grade takes 1200 hours of class instead of 600. >And when ‘how right’ falls to 60%, the box squeezes a 60% grade down to 36 (60% of 60%). Damage is like a weight on the box’s ceiling, and ‘ceiling’ (C) becomes our new parameter—the new mark that the teachers have to turn in.literally, what takes these people 1200 hours who do everything wrong thinking they know better (flashcards, shadowing, textbook and grammar study, taking notes, studying pronunciation, things like Refold) will take me 600 hours or less
>>225927767>If you haven't spent 3+ years on a single language10*
What does this Russian sayhttps://www.instagram.com/reel/DfJltAfScrA/
>>225928292>im at 94 hours and I can already understand Peppa PigProbably because Peppa pig is designed for newborns and nonverbal autistic children
Saying that you, as a 20 or 30 something male adult, can understand Peppa Pig after tens of hours of watching episodes, has to be one of the funniest brags I've seenOh, you've already outwitted newborns and autistic children that will never know more than 10 words entire life? Truly, your future wife will be impressed
>>225928463Japanese learners read Yotsuba&! in japanese as their first manga and it's a manga for children. What's your point?
>>225928502Yotsuba is understandable Peppa Pig is quite literally designed for newborns for stages prior to language acquisition. What's even funnier is that he's probably sat there for hours watching episodes of it, believing he's some sort of savant because he can decipher the word breakfast when a pink cartoon pig's parent repeats the word loudly again and again and again.
>>225927710Lol stay in your containment zone Hans
>>225928463>Saying that you, as a 20 or 30 something male adult, can understand Peppa Pig after tens of hours of watching episodesI haven't been watching peppa pig episodes, i just tried one to check my listening >has to be one of the funniest brags I've seenlet me know how many hours it took other german learners then. or even better, ask the Japanese learner how many hours it took them. im sure you'll laugh even more>you've already outwitted newborns and autistic children that will never know more than 10 words entire life? you're British and you don't know peppa pig is just a normal show children watch?im not outwitting any native child, im talking about you language learners >>225928584>Peppa Pig is quite literally designed for newborns for stages prior to language acquisitionprior to language acquisition? language acquisition already starts in the womb, and by the time the child is 2 years old they already had 4000 hours of input (the programme is designed for children between 2 and 5 according to thishttps://tvtantrum.com/shows/peppa-pig not newborns)>What's even funnier is that he's probably sat there for hours watching episodes of itive been watching ALG German, comfy german, and Naturlich from the beginning actually. im not one of those ajatt people who think you should use native media from the start>believing he's some sort of savant because he can decipher the word breakfast when a pink cartoon pig's parent repeats the word loudly again and again and again.i don't try to decipher any words, i just understand them like any normal person in their native language, either through context or just the sounds themselves. and it's not about me, it's about the method now the question is what is your target language mate? and how long did you take you to understand something as easy (according to you) as Peppa Pig? have you even reached that point yet?
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>>225928845>language acquisition already starts in the wombThis is the dumbest thing I've ever readPerhaps they'll use the language acquisition phase of pregnancy to better guide abortions
>>225928845Alas, I am just some troglodyte who learning Spanish reads sonnets, verse, and prose! This isn't a pissing match and I do not care. My ego isn't so flustered when I see other learners of different capabilities that I feel the need to tell my language hugbox how well I can outmatch infants.And it is for prior to language acquisition. The show is used by mothers to entertain their children as they shake rattles and chew dissected bits of apple. But perhaps these are ALG approved sources of language learning stimulation?
You may not like it, but this is what PEAK language learning looks likeIf you aren't prepared to goon HIGH QUALITY native content in your TL then you shouldn't be learning languages. Period.
