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Best Ghost so far?
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>>156041990
Nathan
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What will become of Nathan once the whole family leaves?
He himself mentions that he doesn’t want to stay at the hotel forever, yet he continues to suffer from the depression that has held him captive.
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>>156042601
Honestly he'll either fall back to the core or he'll become the depresson ghost. But if he doesn't fulfill his business before they leave or die he'll probably just help the next family/owner
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She's such a diva
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>>156042691
Sad, i would like that season 3 something happens to break the magic shield that keep him away of the Ghost lady of the Lighthouse.
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>>156041990
What would you guys like to see from the next esther abaddon centric episode?
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I like how Nathan's suicide was handled in the last episode. Very realistic that he had a family and was genuinely trying to do something but in the end he was very lonely and it simply wasn't enough.
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>>156042691
One of many reasons why I'd rather have this show get a respectable several season run with a definitive end rather than go too long.
They're doing such a great job with Nathan, it'd be so disheartening to see them ruin it by dragging things on.
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>>156041990
I like how the Ghosts on this show use Beetlejuice rule, as ghost appearances are based on the matter of how they dies. Even if some push that fact like Candlehead or Greg. While there are also some questionable one like the Shadowman, Snatcher and Jessica.
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>>156041990
New art delivery of demon Ester as succubus from the drawthread.
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>>156042792
Abaddon's wife/mother-in-law visiting and Esther having to deal with it alone, as she came in human disguise
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>>156043959
Not bad.
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I had a dream last night where Esther pegged me hard as fuck and would keep sneaking gropes of my ass in front of her own family
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>>156044145
Sounds like you’re a faggot, who wants to be slut shammed.
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>>156044178
Maybe. It's interesting it was Esther, she seems oddly fitting for pegging.
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>>156041990
Scream boy.
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>>156044188
If you want to be pegged you’re gay. If you want to be objectified you’re a slut. Anal is always a little gay dosen't matter if it’s with a woman or a man who ever is receiving anal is always gay.
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>>156044248
>who ever is receiving anal is always gay
So if I fuck a chick in the ass, she's lesbo?
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>artist that made this got their account suspended because of one retard 'uh they make icky art'
For fucks sake.
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>>156043735
Not all of them follow that rule but yeah it’s cool regardless
>>156043959
Very nice
>>156044666
Xitter? Shame things can happen that way
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>>156041928
I think you’re looking too deep into it Zatch just sounds cooler to most people overall
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>>156044228
The Hungry Myling is so cute, sadly he last to short.
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>>155969504
>>155969682
>>155967211
That explains why I like him so much. He really is like a less joke-y Constantine. Both genuinely talented. Both funny. Both trenchcoat wearing and rugged and smoke a lot. Dante isn’t quite as ruthless as JohnCon but that’s almost certainly done to him more palatable for the audience.
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Mooncurse
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>>156044228
Cute
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>>156043197
I really do too enjoy a realistic depiction, hope next season might do the little gap between him being revived/appearing to kathy. Would be interesting to see her trying to cope with both being a mother, and a divorce and her older brother's suicide. Though at that point then it's just kathy suffer porn but I trust the show to really devel into the famial trauma.

You also aren't wrong it is realistic for a suicidal person to have a massive high before a horrific low. That and really the bouts of depression can be very all over and ironically something super wholesome can lead you further in the dark. Really a great depiction that isn't just a teenage girl being sad.
>>156043487
Yeah 100% but I also don't know what my peak ending is.

Part of me want a brilliantly tragic but wholesome ending.
>Just everyone super happy
>they just saved the world from some bs
>and kathy and nathan just sitting on porch together talking
>An they really just talk like they are kids again and nathan finally realizes kathy is happy
>Then right as they are talking kathy looks away at the kids running around having fun
>Then when she looks back nathan's just gone
>Realize his unfinish business was wanting to make sure his sister was happy

It'd be tragic but also a fun nod to nathan's nature he isn't the type to think about himself. Plus it's implied he only appeared after kathy took over the hotel as we see they are living at the hotel a second then she runs out as nathan chases her gives me the idea he might have been ok being just dead but kathy being so depressed because of it gave him unfinished business.
>>156044666
I saw this too and funny the artist that was able to get them cancelled only has like 96 followers and their art is super amateur in comparison. So sad people would rather focus on cancelling a art because of what they do on their more side accounts. Because iirc this artist cropped their nsfw and posted it on other stuff.
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>>156043197
To be honest the shit happening in the hotel helped to his wrong-doings
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>>156044019
Probably be funnier if it is his wife. Abaddon said mother in law's are enemies he'd probably just kill her then. But his wife he migh be honor bound to respect or at least not kill. Also the idea did pass my mind, and their super passive answers with the ama makes me wonder if they might actually do something with it. They were willing to drop lore on jacob and the priest but not any official demon lore.
>>156043959
Nice I remember some of the first esther art here was ironically playing on the "she-mon" thing as well.
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>>156045830
Yeah, True.
His spirit was willing, but the Evil of the Hotel and Surroundings were Stronger.
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>>156045822
>and ironically something super wholesome can lead you further in the dark.
I feel like they handled this really well in the Bridget episode. He's afraid of how much it's going to hurt when their night is over, worried about where that might lead him. But she was right, those short lived moments are worth it.
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>>156047038
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>>156045378
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>>156046791
I love this concept plus it’d be a neat callback to the werewolf episode
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>>156047038
>>156047061
Here's another one I've found.
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>>156046257
True poor nathan, he's not afraid of being alone. He's afraid of being happy then for it all to leave. Funny how that ep is even more powerful after ep 8 where we see he did something similar with kathy.
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>>156047038
>>156047443
One flaw with genderswapped ben is gwen would be getting dicked down by half the school.

>Super unconfident girl
>Daddy issues
>Can't say no
>Doesn't like confrontation
She'd need her little brother to look out for her every second.
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>>156047412
I still like the idea that Katherine should be the plot twist werewolf/monster of the week. >>156003172

I do hope this artist would draw Kethy as a werewolf too at some point.
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>>156047568
You forgot horny.
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>>156047720
True forget ben is slightly horny not as much this season actually guess it was mostly from the ghost gf
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She's hiding her true power...
>>>/a/291855684
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For that one anon that wanted more goat legged esther found some
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>>156048204
Kino
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Hope we get more estherdon art in this thread
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>>156048286
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>>156048420
Nice to see there are more Escherdon bros abound.
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>>156048453
it IS a pretty good ship. they cute.

i'd just love the son to be less of a wet rag. seriously, both the son and brother are so incredibly soft.
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>>156048683
You mean ben? I think he has some growth this season but I can see it as well. But kind of fits seems like he ironically takes after a younger kathy very non confrontational and timid, while esther takes after their dad very street smart overconfident and a bit of a scammer/schemer.
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>>156048763
thats why the not-constantine episode was great. it started to show a less loser side of ben.

in general, this show was dope.

the lighthouse ghost-GF was also a great episode.
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>>156047633
I mean, they could even do both really, it’d be a fun way to kill two birds with one stone, have Katherine turn Esther into one or vice versa, but it would be cool to have Katherine more directly involved in a plot
>>156048054
Would be funny if she ended up as an antagonist later on
>>156048286
>>156048333
>>156048420
Dangerously cute!
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>>156048786
I think he does it in that and the concierge ben shows he is slowly getting a back bone this season.
>Second ep where he tells off ghost gf
>4th ep where he stands up to randy about his comfort Level and being ok not being a cool kid
>Ep 5 actually kind of stands up to abaddon about being mean to him
>6th ep the concierge one, where he saves his mom and is willing to fight supernatural entity for her.
>7th dante crowe, he ends up saving esther like twice and esther is the jobber for once.

Honestly this kind of proves why esther not being perfect is fun as well. Gives a chance for other characters to take the spot light. Also this was the season of ben compared to s1
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>>156048817
>Would be funny if she ended up as an antagonist later on
It was me esther I've been the one summoning all the monsters that have plagued this house.

We always need more cuteness and the best ship, I wish we had a good green or two about them
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>>156048817
>Dangerously cute!
I agree, especially when they're both look spooky.
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>>156048888
Ben is also interesting compared to other "wimpy unconfident boy who ultimately does lock in when needed" types because it seems like he avoids conflict in a manner that borders on laziness.
Makes sense, being avoidant of one's problems definitely seems to run in the family.
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>>156048972
I love the demon Esther x baby Abaddon art. It's like a canon roleswap.
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I like the lighthouse ghost episode and fully get what they are going for. But I also feel like esther or ben could just deliver a letter or something for them once a week back and forth.
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>>156049035
It could've been really cute if Abaddon saw her demon form and thinks she looks really cool.
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>>156049082
the episode was clearly meant to be a one and done thing but i do agree with you.
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>>156042737
she looked so much less ugly than usual in this shot.
>>156042768
I wonder.. if Katherine were to purchase the lighthouse, would that count? It works based on the property line, after all. The ghost thingy seems to respect human law. Presumably said property line has changed over the years, ejecting or stranding some ghosts
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>>156042792
Esther having her first period, and Abaddon showing WAY too much glee and excitement because he views it as a form of stigmata
>>156043735
It seems like there's a few competing forces that affect the ghosts in general, and that feels appropriate. they're caught between worlds, but they're also subject to all kinds of forces they don't understand.
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Maybe I'm stupit but how does a suicide ghost make sense in this series? If you become a ghost because you had "unfinished business" it implies you could not rest in peace because something was keeping you "tied" to life even in the afterlife. Killing yourself is the polar opposite of that, no? Having stuff that needs you/needs to get done ("unfinished business") is in fact one of the biggest protective factors against suicide. So I think it's kind of strange.
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>>156047038
>>156047443
Girl Ben is cute actually
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>>156043959
horns clip through hair but other than that, NICE.
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>>156044666
it's 2026.
if you're still on a platform that could do that, that's on you
>>156044803
that's retarded. what if I just start calling you by a name I like better?
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>>156045378
>>156045389
wait, does she have a shaved strip at the nape? has she always had that? is it in her model sheet?
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>>156049182
If the show goes on long enough they will eventually load a wheelbarrel full of hotel dirt and see if that works for moving ghosts around.
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>>156045822
you think you can be yanked from your afterlife INTO ghosthood by someone missing you or having to deal with your shit?

also how the fuck do you know who reported whom. also cut it out with the 'they' shit.
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>>156045830
>>156046003
Huh, I hadn't even considered that. and I'm surprised grape-truther-anon didn't either.
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>>156049354
Yeah
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>>156046257
In my experience, those short-lived moments are not worth it, and the pain from the loss builds and builds, much higher than the pleasure ever built, and with much more of a lingering effect

I would have done it just for her, knowing I'd be sadder later but... it's a good sad, if it helped someone else.
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>>156047038
That's certainly a hairstyle choice, Chester.. and I don't think that's puritan girl hair, she should have.. braids? but okay.
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I love this show, I only wish we'd get some more Abbadon whump. Just some crumbs...
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>>156048453
>Escherdon
I too ship Abaddon with crazy stairs
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>>156049430
Braids and covered hair, yeah.
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>>156048683
This is definitely a show where no males are ever competent, but the females are also completely flawed, and really it's only Katherine who has even HALF of her shit together. and it's not perfectly together, either. so it's okay..
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>>156048817
I read this as 'have Katherine turn into Esther' and now I want a Freaky Friday.
>>156048888
yeah, we've had several eps talking about Ben's confidence. I think he's got an arc going.
>>156048907
>no loli ghost monster summoner gf
god dammit.
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>>156048976
right? and yet, he also has a real solid excuse. he's seen what dangerous confidence can do. His sister AND his dad both go headlong into idiotic decisions, and his mom took over a failing hotel. I've had to make real hard decisions to risk looking lazy in order to not end up in bad situations without an exit strategy. A lot. More and more over time. but when I did that as a kid, I wasn't always right. Maybe 70% of the time.
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>>156049436
Made for woundfucking
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>>156049362
I like that idea too!
>>156049082
telescope!!
>>156049274
By definition, if you ended your own life, you had more business left. even if your business was 'dying slowly of an illness'
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>>156049396
oooohh right, it's not a strip, it's an undercut.
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>>156049458
I think little girls could get away with having their hair out but yeah.
it's funny how many of the same tropes keep pervading different religions that all hate each other, but each of them still have that one sect that does some dumb bullshit like this. convergent religious evolution.
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>>156049467
Dante was pretty competent. Not perfect but very intuitive and in the know.
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>>156049595
indeed! I was amazed they didn't just mock him. In the end, he's SLIGHTLY mockworthy, but overall still incredible. he can do this one, specific life, and probably nothing else.
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>>156049568
Subjugation and oppression of women is part of a lot of cultures and hence of lots of religions too.
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>>156049710
N-
no, anon, that's the only part they have right. That's every culture, every country, except a few sick pockets of ancient greece, and today.
(I mean, by the modern definition of 'oppression.' by the true definition, that's pretty exclusive to like, the late 19th early 20th centuries. before industry, people treated women with the kind of honor that is 'oppression' now.)
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>>156049452
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>>156049395
Makes it look less an act of Selfishness but genuine despair.
Something like the Ancestor in Darkest Dungeon.
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>>156049753
Anon, there's been philosophers (men and on the rare occasion when they were allowed to write, women too) who've been talking about the way women are treated socially being unfair and oppressive almost since we have written records.
Anyway, shut up. 2012 ass take.
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not even bothering to read that
>>156049757
Ooooh, toothyroads. Even cooler.
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>>156049362
That sounds hilarious desu
>>156049274
You may feel like you have nothing left to do, but that's just the depression talking.
>>156049383
>you think you can be yanked from your afterlife INTO ghosthood by someone missing you or having to deal with your shit?
Could be what Nathan meant by taking several days to become a ghost.
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>>156049911
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>>156049452
>Escherdon
Eschation
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>>156049997
>taking several days
Huh... now that you mention it..
>>156050037
I love that he worked entirely in woodblock kinda shit. So you could always make more copies.
>>156050073
>Eschation
eschalon! ESCHALOTTE!
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>>156050073
Sundered here
https://youtu.be/CoJCvoS8AGs?si=86BsJ5xr7ukobMvu
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>>156048054
I like this, like, Most of the time this show doesn't even feel like a sitcom.
And that is a great achievement—that it feels more like a blend of adventure, action, and mystery horror.
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>>156050990
>that it feels more like a blend of adventure, action, and mystery horror.
Same. This show is kinda gives me Mighty Max vibes, and it was one of my favorite series I saw as a kid.
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>>156049501
Freaky friday ep kind of fits the series

That we have, poor ben has slowly becoming a man. Wonder what his definite arc end would even look like.

I imagine more melly from re-zero, but don't want to turn this into a full on ani thread. But would be interesting if ghost could still be witches or do some damage.
>>156050073
Esther saves the world from her own ship
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>>156050990
True really makes it stand out especially from other adult animations. I think biggest thing is they don't also do the "therapyslop" thing where they stop the whole story for a massive therapy session. We usually have a god mix of action and story and horror lore. Without leaning to hard into one or the other. An they definitely don't do the family guy "emmy bait" thing where every few eps they overly force emotions and it feels forced. The emotions exist because it feels like the characters all actually like each other.
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>>156049396
Fake News

This is the official size of Esther compared to Nathan
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Speaking of eps we need, I do want more esther and abaddon centric eps. But we haven't had a single kid centric ep iirc. Like just the three of them usually they are broken into small pockets. Maybe another parents out episode but ben is actually in charge and has to deal with abaddon and esther.
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>>156051296
She's so big...
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>>156051056
ooooh good comparison. Same contrast of real human reactions and stoically traditional fantastic elements. Max and Virgil interacted in a lot of the same ways Esther and Abaddon do.
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>>156051359
They grow so fast :)
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>>156051374
>>156051056
Guess I've got to finally watch mighty max
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>>156051374
>>156051417
It also has good comparison between Katherine and Max's mom.
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>>156051417
hell yeah you do. Thankfully, the majority of episodes have been upscaled and look pretty good. and the remaining ones, at least, can be watched. One of the classics for sure, one of a kind. And you NEVER fuckin knew what genre it was gonna be, each episode. Kinda Doctor Who in that way. This week there's aliens, next week we're in the jungle with talking apes, next week we're in cyberspace because some guy's game code got stolen..
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>>156051482
kinda! I actually really had a weirdly... what's the word, like the adventure version of 'cozy' feeling about their life setup. His mom was often gone for long stretches, doing archaeology stuff. He was exactly the kind of kid who COULD be left alone like that, responsible, good at school, but still hip and not a dork.. and he didn't keep the fantasy shit from his mom, but he easily COULD have, because he had -space-
that was every 90s boy's fantasy. a mom who just gives him space, lets him hang out with a chicken and a swordsman, trusts him...
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>>156051483
True sounds fun been watching older shows anyway. Really seeing older shows like this makes me miss that old in between of super cartoonish and comic/stylized stuff.
>>156051511
This sounds like many shows before every mc became a loser and bullied. When the mc could be responsible but still adventurous without that somehow translating to autistic or a freak. I think I miss when the main character could be cool or well liked instead of just bullied/freak kid
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Good season. Couple of thoughts
>Anabelle is so annoying and I wished that ep where they break up had her finish her business, effectively writing her out the show. Willing to bet money that the next time we see her, she's dating Randy to make Ben jealous which would put Randy's character down in the dumps with her
>The last ep gives me the impression we won't see how Nathan commits. Unless we get an episode someday about his first day as a ghost
>When are we going to see Abaddon's body's dad?
>I liked crowe, glad we get to see him again, I hope he doesn't turn out to be a loser
>none of the outside-the-hotel reoccurring characters are interesting
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>>156051302
I'd love a kids adventure. Maybe we have the contrast between Katherine and Nathan feels while Ben trying to keep Esther and Abaddon's shenanigans under control.
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>>156051585
Yeahh I don't know how to describe the style, it's like... it's not complex, but it was definitely not designed for an amateur artist. Everything had to be drawn just right from different angles, and so they only used good artists. it was in the same NEIGHBORHOOD as renaissance disney, but not the same.
>>156051680
The priest died and went to his eternal reward centuries ago, why would we see him? oh, you want more flashbacks? I suppose that'd be fun.
yeah I hated Annabelle, but I liked that she recognized a bit of her own flaws here. She's probably on her way to figuring out her biz (it's about not being such a bitch that someone kills you at your party)
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>>156051773
I'd love to see their dynamic together. I have to think they'd have a kinda 3 stooges feel, similar to the Belcher kids. I loved the ep where the kids were 'fired' so they went to work at a pot farm
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>>156044316
A little bit yeah.
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>>156051511
>>156051796
Okay, I know it's not quite the right thread to discourse about, but I would like just to bring out that the villains & monster designs were not only look unsettling and twisted, but they also looks really unique as a horror concept from the 90's. Part of the reason why I miss these kinds of shows where adventure, action, and mystery horror where at it's peak. And if someone was asking me if this series should be rebooted, I'll say I would let it rest quitaly since this series hold special place for me among other favorite spooky series I grew up from and Haunted Hotel may be the rarest modern show that fits to my taste.
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>>156051773
Definitely my first thought process and fits s2 ben he's more confident so he can actually somewhat tell esther what to do. It'd be funny if it's a cool ben ep

>Esther and abaddon see ben in charge like a free day
>Parents/adults are out for whatever reason
>Ben tries to be the nice big bro and not overstep
>Abaddon and esther keep teasing and pushing him around
>Esther and Abaddon keep getting worse and worse
>All up until they summon a elder god/demon
>Then last half of the episode is just ben having to save them
>Ben actually locks in big bro mode
>Has to save esther from the beast she tries to tell him what to do still
>Ben smacks esther, "Listen esther you might not respect me but I'm your big bro it's my job to protect you"
>Ben then ask her how they summoned the beast
>He fights it off and saves esther and abaddon from it
>Half dead ben still gets in trouble because the hotel is a mess
>Ben grounded in his room, recuperating
>Esther and Abaddon come in much more apologetic and thank Ben for saving them.
>Little cute sibling moment of them all hanging out in ben's room or falling asleep in bed together.
>>156051796
Oh I know as I said been rewatching older cartoon specifically late 80s to early 90s shows. An really idk what happened but theirs a massive shift from more proportionate designs with multi level shading or lighting to much more just shaped based designs and focus on the squash and stretch. I like both but sad to see only one survive the animation wars.
>>156051680
I like anabelle hope they fix her up and make her more likeable she's cute and would be sad to see her go. Also idk randy is too much of a bro now to do that to ben.

Funny How I got my wish from last season wanted more randy and boy did we get it. I think crowe is safe from being a loser since his first appearance is so beloved and they didn't do it in ep one.

Really I'd be ok with slight appearances like 1 heather ep a season same with bf, also need school ep at least once
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>>156051922
it's never a bad time to talk about Mighty Max.
I also love how the title is by far the least appealing thing about the show, but there was nothing they could do about it, so they just had Max hate being called that (And also, 95% of the time, it was the much-less-cringey title "The Mighty One.")
and to think, it was all to sell little polly pocket sets with horror and scifi concepts instead of pink and sugar. Not exactly all that fun compared to a fully articulated action figure with weapons and shit, which is what we WANTED.
>>156051949
well, a huge part of it is that animation studios switched to digital, which costs 1% what traditional did, but they embezzled all the money. The other part is that foreign slave labor finally kinda burned out, just like slave labor always does.
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>>156049997
>You may feel like you have nothing left to do, but that's just the depression talking
So then it's not that you think you have something left to do, but that... Some magic afterlife deity thing thinks so?
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They put something in my water, I think. The urges I have to cuddle, pamper and kiss the top of Abbadon's head are not normal.
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>>156052216
It makes sense, yeah. They aren't conscious of their business, we know that. It must be another intelligence that knows it.
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>>156052250
no, you're supposed to have that. the shit they put in the water makes you NOT want to cuddle cute things.
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>>156052250
Who WOULDN'T want to love this cute little demon?
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>>156052018
Honestly never knew the dip was that huge makes me even more pissed. 1% what traditional cost but somehow still they outsource and underpay really like someone said here before. Corpos are in for a massive depression because eventually no one will consume the products or be able to create them. Like the gaming industry and everything being over 1k they will see a massive flop because even the biggest consumers just can't afford that shit.

I mean might be worth making another thread for max since seems theirs some hype for it........tommorow of course. But best to not muck up another thread, though not against it just feel when a thread is filled with to many different concepts it can be a bit confusing for new anons lol. But I am somewhat invested so hard to decide like the dark gathering anon. I can't dislike it but also don't want thread to turn into something else truly a toss up how it all works.
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>>156052660
>Type of thing a poor, scrawny little puritan boy sees while playing in the woods
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>>156052545
I mean
that's my estimate, obviously there's no official numbers because that would be admitting guilt. also, every country did it simultaneously

but think about it. You used to have to paint cels, one at a time, one COLOR at a time, making ZERO mistakes, for each 1/12th of a second (at best), AND wait for each color to dry before doing the next. AND in the right order. then, carefully lay each cel on the camera with all the other cels, getting the scene perfectly sync'd with several different characters...

Now compare that to 'draw it on a tablet, save the image, upload it to the server' and tell me how much money that saves.

gaming is weird because they've actually been giving us more and more and more content at the same price, not even accounting for inflation until very recently.. but despite that, they've still started doing what you can only call 'evil for evil's sake' completely unprofitable nonsense.
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>>156052507
Ghhhghhh I wanna pick him up and coo at him!!! Kiss his little cheeks!!! He's my little baby !
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>>156052759
oh, and they also CUT corners when they went digital, as if it was MORE expensive. Absolutely insane thing to do.
Basically every company now is "the thing that made us massively rich? fuck that, let's do the thing our competition used to do, that made them lose. also we are puppets of russia and china probably, but it's definitely capitalism's fault!"
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>>156052842
and that's how you lose a couple of hands
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>>156053136
It was worth it to squish that demon
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>>156052721
Funny how little abaddon x vessel art there is.
>>156052759
True but in general I can believe it also Idk really many countries actually fund animation as a form of artistic importance unlike us. Well eh most of our funding probably gets taken under the table anyway. An we are the biggest of the outsourcers most don't outsource, like arcane was literally a animation of a American ip outsourced to france iirc.

That is very true in terms of cost but again confuses me why we had more shading and color detail in traditional days compared to now. Most shows specifically avoid shadows on characters anymore but again makes no sense as literally now you can just add the shadow as a layer instead of that whole process.

I think gaming really has fallen people forget when games used to be 30-40 dollars for a brand new game even in the late 00s to early 10s we had tons of 49.99 game releases. Now I've seen many of the top games having a 80-90 dollar ultimate edition on launch and the main game is usually 70 dollars. Gaming also does that while also selling you dlc see that was the big inflation in the gaming space anon. You buy a game and also have to buy like 40 dollars in dlcs for stuff that was originally planned to be part of the game. But yes also the whole no more disc stuff and ridiculous prices. An the problem with "more and more" is usually that was just the same game look at MW4 and 2K they both just jumped to the top played and sold games in only a few days/week but both are made yearly at this point. The reality is consumers buy literal games with miniscule updates to them we have so much less creativity in gaming compared to the past.
>>156052816
True it's weird think it's the damn shareholders. Idk why but US has obsession with constant growth. I've seen it irl with corpos, people and teams get top numbers for 5 years straight they even make more than expected. The company loses money/spends has nothing to do with that team. LAY THEM ALL OFF!
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>>156053229
>Funny how little abaddon x vessel art there is.
It does have its niche at least.
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>>156051233
One thing's for sure. Ben is going to be a great husband and father.

I could see body swappage happening if Esther made, like, astral projection... landmines? to thwart any mortals fucking with the hotel, but Katherine's meddling makes them both step on one, and in the rush to get back into their bodies, they enter the wrong ones, and Esther's all out of goat bladder or whatever. Man you know what nobody ever explains? WHY do random animal parts make magic?
>>156051274
They literally had a sideplot about therapy. stop getting your opinions from robots. There's nothing wrong with goin psych on things.
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>>156053229
true, DLC is a scam. But like I said, games really were fuckin 60+ dollars in the 90s, so in a lot of ways, we're lucky. I was okay with spending a lil DLC money to support games I liked, but.. at this point.. no. Not til I get a say in what's considered acceptable content, and have control enough over the files to edit them to my liking.
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>>156053336
Cute but kind of meant more "demon" abaddon x vessel in the sense of abaddon is kind of his eternal tormenter basically
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>>156053460
He already is a great turtle owner til randy let it die. Also we've got dad ben and he basically father's his little sis. Ben will be a great guy when he grows up.

Oh that's actually super explianable anon, because magic was always seen as just a perversion of religion/divine power. So they took elements of it as well. Read the bible offering animals and pieces of animals was a super common way of showing respect to the gods. So vice versa you are just doing the same thing but rather to the earth or devil etc which force the witch/practitioner is using. Blood and animal sacrifices go back forever. Also animals are like flowers and plants certain ones hold different meaning and so do certain organs and body parts. It's always the heart of a lion or bear to steal its courage and strength in most cultures.

But also yes I can definitely see this as a episode basically cute and another esther fucks up thing. One flaw is this kind of needs to be a earlier episode as astral esther and the mill did a lot of this already specifically having them connect and respect each others specific strong suits and hard lives. Could be funny though for kathy to be forced down a esther abaddon adventure and she just ends it with "wow these two have a unhealthy relationship" and esther has to navigate being her mom and dealing with bills and supernatural bs with no magic.

I mean as the whole show anon, not one off episodes. Also let's be real you knew what I meant more than just "therapy" episodes. I mean forced suddenly deep episodes. Like rick and morty and family guy do, for the whole seasons the characters act like assholes and there's no seriousness then suddenly for the last ep or a random ep we talk about "being molested or being abused" then they slow the ep down and try to be all deep while also making the same poorly timed jokes and pretending like it even matters. But most of my reference is that most "psych" route eps in cartoons are super surface level and shit
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>>156053639
I thank the crew for all the blushing Abaddon this season
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>>156053476
True but it was also 1000x more difficult to make them back then specifically infrastructure was brand new and systems were all innovative because it was all new to do. I mean we see teams making some of the most interesting games ever faster and with smaller teams and they don't need all that. Mods are available for that last thing but they are trying to do away with those too I've heard.
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>>156053818
Someone at the crew is a true shotacon and it shows. The problem is they'll go over that very thin line and the fandom will seethe at them for it.
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>>156051482
She’s kinda hot
>>156051680
Anabelle’s bitchiness was definitely toned up in that episode in fairness. I doubt Randy would do that honestly
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>>156052721
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>>156053607
This does beg the question of how possession works. Is it just that the demon manifests physically like Mortoth did and just crawls inside a persons body or do they enter the material realm by possessing someone in the first place? I expect we’ll find out in a future episode but it’s something to think about
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>>156053972
Randy's a bro

It is indeed a question but we see abaddon fuilly coming to earth causes the apocalypse. I believe the original concept is most accurate abaddon comes to earth maybe as a shadow or a formless energy and then gets inside the boy. Because if a demon could just be themselves on earth why even possess anyway.
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>>156054072
I would love to see a more girly esther episode or moment like louise in BB with the one boy band. Esther tries to hide her obsession with some cringy monster series.
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>>156053737
yeah but, you butcher an animal and burn it for god because A) it's your best one, so you're saying "I trust you to give me more" and B) he likes the smell of it. it's not like the specific-
you have a point though, a lot of folk magic does have shit like, reading animal entrails like tea leaves. It just seems odd that specific claws, hair, etc does things. that feels less 'medieval magic' and more 'modern africa and china'

anyway I like those R+M moments. Family Guy has never done them well though.
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>>156054085
>Esther's on Team Jacob
>Abaddon's vessel's name is Jacob
HMMMM
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>>156053846
eeeyup. so I will not be getting a switch 2 until either it's been cracked, reliably, or emulated, and then ... when I can afford a fucking 2500 dollar computer to run the emulator. sucks, I wanna play some of the games, but a lot more of them I won't play til I can uncensor them, change the hideous art, or just whatever.
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>>156053972
that is a very good question (it is raised, not begged, just to be pedantic). Demons can obviously be physical and tangible in addition to spirit-y. I guess maybe it's a shifting they do, I assume Abaddon's physical form, such as it is, is within the boy.
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>>156048054
This "Willpower" thing is actually interesting
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>>156048054
if she's so shy, would she be really embarrassed if some ghost took off her ghost gown? CAN they? sometimes ghosts can touch other ghosts, but other times it sounds like they're completely touch-starved.. and if you can move someone's clothes, then you could surely wear them, yet supposedly only ghosts that share your death-day can do so..
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>>156054238
Just a point of explaining bases, plus I mean the supposed first story is all about how god likes animal sacrifices better than plants. Ala Cain and Abel.

I want to like them but problem is the series tends to ruin them by having characters then treat each other like shit two seconds later. As a friend once told me about why they dislike the show. "They don't even feel like a family at this point. They just feel like a ragtag team of assholes who hate each other". It's why Haunted Hotel stands out so much as we have a family that might fight but it's much more realistic and then it makes the heart moments not feel so forced or out of left field. An yeah FG can't do anything right they can't even do heart for more than a second.
>>156054238
People seemed to want to use the one time abaddon was taller as much as they can with this image. He wasn't that much taller though
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>>156054238
Estherdon canon
>Abaddon's vessel's name is Jacob
Also esther is secretly a monster fucker and wants abaddon to transform or at least do something like the drawanons did where he gets more demon traits.
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>>156054474
>He wasn't that much taller though
Yeah, but it was cute.
>>156054533
>monsterfucker Esther
BASED
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>>156054474
yeah but he ends up asking for both animals and grain later, I think it's safe to assume the issue was cain withheld the good stuff (probably since they hadn't had much time to work on agriculture and selective breeding yet, so there WASN'T much good stuff to sacrifice. unlike animals which started out awesome and probably had like, fuckin dinosaur meat and shit)
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>>156054640
li'l Esther! she's such a SCAMP!
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>>156054640
Think people loved this mostly because we got to get more of a vibe of esther's body type. Though doesn't negate the old "pudgy" esther meme.

Esther's a freak she is into warrior cat all girls into that were wild. Though she'd probably be the type to get in over her head wth the monsterfucker angle.
>>156054645
True but the point still stands that sacrifices were based on a level of value and specifics. God tends to respect animal sacrifices more just in general as it showed a certain level of devotion. Mostly because animals must be killed/subdued so it's seen as more meaningful and i.e we get back to the witches.
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>>156049235
>she looked so much less ugly than usual in this shot.
a good example of how badly they want to make the characters look more expressive.
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>>156054654
She's such a cutie. Shota Ben was very cute too, weird that they didn't even pitch up his VA or anything though.
>>156054795
>Though she'd probably be the type to get in over her head wth the monsterfucker angle.
Even better!
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>>156055212
yeah definitely missed an opportunity to pitch up his voice. not sure why they didn't do that.
then again, I don't know why they don't just let Marge Simpson speak in a lower pitch and pitch her up in post. Fix her problems like that.
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>>156054007
So cute
Very sexily drawn Katherine
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>>156054640
>>156054533
>>156054238
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>>156054072
Very cute pairing but I really want a similar outfit like that to show up again
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>>156055212
Realizes peak abaddon's cock is literally the size of her body. Or even if it's just on his shota form it's probably barbed and huge for her size.
>>156055301
True and yeah but then it's not esther if they do a different outfit to often. But I would love to see more different abaddon and esther outfits. We've gotten 4 each I think

>Classic
>Boss esther
>baby esther
>Pj esther
>Raincoat esther

>Classic abaddon
>Pj abaddon
>trench coat abaddon
>Woods abaddon
>scarf/cult abaddon
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The Best Characters ever made in the
Current time of Western animation.
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>>156055958
Mayhaps at least best duo of 2020s
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>>156055958
>>156055997
don't forget about Jack and Lily so quickly!
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>>156055958
Fact checked by real Acolytes of Abaddon
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>>156056155
Although it seems like Nick is intent on letting people do so…
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>>156053304
Insane gap moe
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>>156053859
I think there HAS to be some shotacon involved but I'm biased. It could be coincidence. But he really seems like he was made in a lab specifically for shotaxons to salivate over, yes.
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For the anon that requested me to draw Kathy in a little black dress, dunno if you're still here but i'm working on it, gonna sleep now
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>>156052660
Fuck this is cool
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>>156056829
My insane theory is that there's a shotacon on crew and they've been baiting us with both shotas.
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>>156057342
Looking great so far!
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