My thumb of rule is that I try to ask the same woman out 3 times at most, if I get the same excuse style as an answer with no concrete rescheduling plan, my efforts end here. In reality I tend to give up by the 2nd try, the 3rd try happens if I think the extra humiliation ritual could be worth given the girl's value, after some time has passed.Thing is, I realized this may also be depended on how strong is the link you have with the girl. It is easier to apply this rule if you barely know her and you are trying to have a proper first meet up, harder instead if it is a friend you hang out in group often and you are trying to escalate.The context that made me prompt this is that I have this girl on my friend group who I know for more than 1 year and I recently tried to get a date with her. Every time we go out she's very receptacle and touchy with me, so I understood that as signaling from her (which was even acknowledged by other friends). I already tried to text her 3 times at different timeframes for hanging out, but she always takes hours to answer, then say she can't because of something, and end with a vague 'maybe next time'. In other words, Im understanding she's not willing to do the extra mile. But still, when we hang out in group, she sticks with the same warm behavior as always. I said to myself that I already gave up and I won't try any further, but maybe there is something that I'm not reading right? So far my mindset is that I will keep the door open in the case something 'spontaneous' happen, but Im finding the whole thing blurred to read. Perhaps I got friendzoned too much?
>>35057007The second try is already harassment.
Just be glad you aren't in a relationship with a woman who uses you and cheats on you, never having sex with you or kissing you, but supposedly being your "girlfriend". Better yet be glad you aren't in a relationship who gets the entire town treating you like Frankenstein at the windmill.
>>35057007A lot of women will literally go out with you on the first try, so that is the best situation.Usually I try once and give up if they say no. Then a subset of women who are a pain in the ass will try to get you to chase. But even if it works, those women are going to waste your energy so I try to avoid repeating that mistake.
