I personally have no interest in Islam or any of the other Abrahamic religions and consider myself somewhat of a deist.One of my closest female friends is in a similar degree program as myself and is a fairly liberal (almost non-practicing) Muslim. She has rather favorable views on homosexuality for being a Muslim and follows very few of the dietary restrictions, including restrictions on alcohol. Despite all of that, she is unwilling to marry (let alone have sex with) a non-muslim. If we wanted to have any kind of relationship, I would need to convert, or at least pretend very very well to have converted.I personally would consider her to be an absolute steal. She works out very regularly, she is an honor roll student in an exceptionally challenging program, and is overall an extremely good person. I forget where she is from but she is a european passing arab. But is all of that worth faking converting?I know this is probably so fucking retarded, but I'm just getting so sick and tired of being lonely or in relationships that dont work.
Hadith:“The child belongs to the bed, and the adulterer gets nothing.”Arabic: الْوَلَدُ لِلْفِرَاشِ، وَلِلْعَاهِرِ الْحَجَرُ— Sahih al-Bukhari 2053; Sahih Muslim 1457.Meaning: A child born within a valid marriage is legally attributed to the husband, not to a man who committed adultery with the wife.Welcome to the cuckshed.
>>35053859At this point I think its better to be a cuck who still gets to have regular sex with his attractive wife than have no sex and no wife.
>>35053868You are less than a cuck, you are willing to fake religion to get some crumbs of pussy, religion wouldn't be the last thing you are forced to do. Pathetic.
>>35053878Do you know how many people do this? I would bet a large number of people convert specifically for reproductive access. Its a strategy that I'm willing to use. Its even better because I know I'm compatible with this girl.
>>35053888>compatible>>35053868>At this point I think its better to be a cuckIf you will do it make sure not to reproduce because we don't want more oofy doofies in this world.
>>35053842You will not be able to fake a conversion to Islam convincingly enough to be able to pull this off. If you're proposing genuinely and sincerely converting, then go for it; but merely pretending won't cut it.
>>35053923I would be willing to sincerely convert given the right circumstances.
>>35053927>given the right circumcision*.
>>35053942I would need to get circumcised yes. She did mention that circumcision would be a requirement for any man she would have a relationship with.
>>35053900>If you will do it make sure not to reproduce because we don't want more oofy doofies in this world.I agree with you, OP should book a vasectomy. He is clearly an oofy doofy. Choosing to pass your genes when you're an oofy doofy is ridiculous. I wish humans were more open minded and every children started being born through gene editing, if we had done this 50 years ago, I can't imagine how much of a paradise we would be living in.
>>35053947>fakes religion to marry a mid cunt>mutilates his penis for herIt keeps getting worse!! Can you tell me which country you are from so i can come and fuck your women since they deserve proper men?
>>35053947>I would need to get circumcised yes. She did mention that circumcision would be a requirement for any man she would have a relationship with.Don't do it OP. You'll forever regret it, because that's mutilating yourself. Do you both live in the west? If yes, why don't you convince her? Look at Kyllian Mbappe, his father is Christian and his mother Muslim. Westerners have these wrapped view of Islam, they think that all Islamic countries women walks around covered from head to toe, that's simply not true. Most Muslims, specially from North Africa, Iran, aren't really practicing Islamism. They have to LARP because that's the place they were born, same with Muslims in the west, a big part of them are LARPers, or at least willing to bend the rules to live a good life in society.
>>35053947I was with you till this. Dealbreaker, imo.
>>35054024I think OP should just mutilate his penis and if unfortunately gangrene doesn't kill him he ends up marrying that loose cunt and get abused later on and divorced, committing suicide would be the cherry on top.
You're here to fight anons on why you're going to do it. So I'm writing this and it's quite a hopeless reply, but here you go anyway:I grew up in Israel. I know the og Muslims because I was there before i came to Europe. We have a special understanding of muslims.And I can tell you one thing. You will be dating her entire family. Islam is an all-consuming religion. We have a saying in Hebrew because it's somewhat similar to Islam, I used to say this a lot about my friends, it is not a common saying - "religious up to my own opinion."In context this means, I am religious in so far as the practice actually benefits me and I will arbitrarily choose the parts that I like and the parts that I dislike and I will make excuses or maybe I won't make excuses and I'll just be a complete hypocrite as to why I do certain things and don't do other things.Islam is full of that. You will often see Muslim men leering at hot scantly dressed women on the street, but on Instagram as well. And if they actually manage to bag the woman, they put a hijab on her. They make her a total slave.It is a religion of hypocrisy. And it stems from deep male insecurity.Likewise, the drinking stuff, they all drink. Even though they shouldn't.This isn't a, I'll just dip my toe in the water type of situation. This is a whole lifestyle. The word all-consuming is the correct one. It is expected that you are consumed. Entirely. You can't half aas this.If you think going to your in-laws for Christmas is bad, I got bad news for you buddy. Islam is all about coming and visiting&being visited&being with your family even when they are awful people.In short, i wouldn't buy into it. They can be very well presented to the outside world like Ilhan Omar or Pokimane, they put on a nice accent, they work out, they do well at school, some of them. But behind closed doors, dude, they have a vicious ideology and a vicious network of terrible people with terrible ideology.It is tribalistic to the maximum.
>>35053927>I would be willing to sincerely convert given the right circumstances.You just contradicted yourself. A sincere conversion must, by definition, be completely unconditional. To be sincere, there can't be any circumstances under which you would not want to convert. You need to convert because you actually BELIEVE, not as a way to marry this girl. To be clear, I'm a white atheist: theologically speaking, I don't have a dog in this fight. But Muslims aren't as dumb as you think. For this to work, your position would have to be that you want to convert to Islam for its own sake, and that being able to marry this girl at the end of it is merely a fringe benefit. If you go into this not actually believing that Islam is the true religion, any imam will see through you in two seconds flat and refuse to conduct the marriage ceremony. Can you actually, genuinely BELIEVE, or would you merely be adopting the trappings and rituals of Islam to try to get laid? The second option won't work.
>>35054024I have tried this however so far she is unwilling. I am still going to try and hold onto hope though. >>35054071Actually, thank you for this. >>35054075I know, thats why i said it. Fake it until you make it.
>>35054153>Actually, thank you for this.No worries, glad you read it, at least.
Always a bad idea to change yourself for a woman, let alone one you haven't dated.Honestly OP, I would just be honest with her and say you like her and wonder if a future with her is possible. Forget the bullshit she told you: if she is really into you then she will break those rules.
>>35054265This may be true, however her parents are exceptionally strict. They want her to get married soon, and she does not want to get married to someone she does not enjoy being around. Her parents are also exceptionally financially well off and they have threatened to pull all funding for her education if she deviates significantly away from what they want her to do.
>>35054153>I know, thats why i said it. Fake it until you make it.Anon, how many times do I have to say this? You CAN'T fake it. Not at any point. For this to work, you must NOT be faking it, right from the very beginning.
>>35053842I got an idea shout allahu akbar! and set off a small fireworks and drop your pants in front of her!
