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i am so fucking pathetic, how do i become a real man?
im so insecure, ugly, a fucking simp, take any form of attention as "this could lead somewhere", in love with a fucking escort i cant stop thinking about her. she said i could message her but i feel so worthless to waste her time. a fucking prostitute. i hold her in higher regard to myself...

how do i become a man, and stop being such a pathetic loser
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>>35045790
Stop bullying yourself you fucking idiot. Stand up to yourself more. Instead of being angry at the pathetic negative self image you paint of yourself, start getting angry at the painter, tell yourself to go fuck yourself every time you catch yourself thinking or talking shit about yourself. You don't have to force fake confidence or pretend you are hot shit but for the love of God man, start telling your self pity or self anger aspect of yourself to get fucked. Fight back OP. You are a man, you were born with a cock and XY chromosomes. A man who is down is still a man, your job is to prevent yourself from becoming down and out no matter the cost. And the first goal is to start telling the bully inside your own head to fuck himself
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>>35045807
theres a whole list of reasons why im like this but mainly when everyone that has ever known me has joked about my looks from age 8 to 20 when i dropped out of uni, different groups of people all made the same jokes its obvious that its true that im ugly and pathetic, i can tell the voice to get fucked but i cant tell it that its not telling me the truth. other than that im a ghost, nobodies favourite, nobodies go to, none of the kindness i ever show is appreciated, unless i text first my phone will remain silent, a fucking lonely loser, im always last for everyone, anyone asks me to do something and i agree like a dog just so im not a disappointment to yet another person. im living just to be used by others and one day when i cant take it any longer, after my mother is dead, i'll take the way out
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>>35045888
I'm not that anon, but everyone has different opinions on what a "real man" is. Get that out of the way and take the time to determine what YOU think a real man is.

If you can come up with the answer to that, I'd appreciate you putting it here in a post so that I don't waste my fucking time giving you bad advice.

If you think a real man is what society think it is, go buy some clothes and jewelry, get some tattooes, go to the gym and get a high paying job and problem solved.
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>>35045908
a graduate would be a start, but that opportunity has long passed, i didnt get the same circumstances and completely ruined my life. i feel inferior in every possible way when someone asks if i have a degree and i say no

all my self worth was in graduating and it never happened

outside of that, im not rich, not handsome, not talented, so what else is there, being "polite" and "nice" doesn't get you anywhere no matter what people tell you
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>>35045924

All right. I am starting to see where you're coming from.

I think relating to other males about this (purposely not using word "man" here for a reason) may help you evolve but only if you think real deep about what other guys tell you.

I feel inferior also man. I'm short, I am not the best looking, but I went to the military and even went to war so that brings my confidence up.

Find some positives about yourself and compare yourself to others and you may realize you're more of a man than you think.

If you never stole anything or beat women or hurt animals or kids then you're more of a man than a lot of other scumbags out there, and I don't give a fuck how much they make a year or what kind of education they have.

I think being a man is about knowing your values, honoring those values and just trying to make it through life respecting those values and fuck what everyone else thinks.

That's what I do, but I know it's hard. I'm still working on myself and you probably will also if you aren't lying to yourself. I think there's always room to grow and I think a real man recognizes that.

Anyways, this shit might sound cheesy but hopefully it helps you out someway.
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>>35045888
Well look man there's a lot of reasons why you keep running up against that social wall, a lot of psychological jargon, but the long and short of it is that you're human and humans always stick to what feels routine. If all you known was assholes who don't make reciprocal efforts that's all you will keep availing yourself to because it's all you have known. You don't know any other way that's exactly where the feeling of being in a position that has no options but to suffer comes from. What you need to consider is that reality is bigger than your perception and that the only reason you haven't gained that perspective is because you have yet to try a radically different approach. Such as getting rid of fairweather friends, the ones who only want to know you when it's convenient for them. You will shit yourself because of the fear that you will be left with nothing but you need to remember they may as well be nothing already since they don't give you anything. And don't insult yourself or your mom with that suicidal oath. Even when she dies you would still be an asshole for killing yourself because the woman spent her entire life to raise you, she birthed you, she had 9 months of uncomfortable pregnancy with you, she named you before you were even out the womb and poured everything into making sure you had the best life she could try to give. And she is half of you genetically and psychologically 50% of you is your mom. Killing yourself would be like spitting in her grave, it would be worse it would be like taking her tombstone and tearing her legacy in half. So quit threatening yourself with murdering yourself. Acknowledge that your desire is for the shit feelings to cease. You want your current way of life to die, not your actual life. Which is understandable to feel bro, but don't let your mind trick you into conflating that for your lifespan
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>>35045790
Thinking this negatively about yourself really doesn't help.
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>>35045946
Also OP this guy has a good post. Manhood is constantly a game of chasing competence. Every man will feel less than manly when comparing themselves to other men, whether that is in looks or in status or intelligence or experience or lifetime achievement. As fucked up and rotten as it feels, we need that depressing and cruel flame within us, because it's that pressure that pushes us to do something to keep up. It is hard wired into all men, that is why we are the competitive sex. But don't think it is all we are, because we pursue higher virtues we wrestle with what we feel today with who we desperately want to become tomorrow. Good men understand the struggle and they see the struggle in other men and brotherhood is formed, respect is freely given, and men can build one another up during shit times.

I also feel less than a man often enough, it doesn't even matter if I have something another man doesn't, my mind will spot something he has that I don't and then I feel like a child in comparison. This happens to all men, and what we do about it is we are supposed to find good brotherhood where we can seek insight or encouragement from one another, and we give that in return for when they want to get on your level at something they suck at but you are good at etc
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>>35045790

You can't feel better unless you physically build up and change yourself.
Specifically, it has to be lifting and boxing and a little drinking. This will allow you to feel human again and not like a doormat.

Booze, boxing and lifting automatically make you feel more comfortable woth confrontations.
On the intellectual front, you need to read Robert Glover for a start.
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