We lost tonight, my dear friends. This was a gambit and it didn't pay off. We were humbled and they can celebrate. It's kind of embarrassing. It's kind of annoying. I feel a bit of envy too. But, what can we do. This was a group decision, we decided for it and at the moment we thought it would be a good idea. In the end though, we're the losers.Ah, let it be already Wednesday!
Women actually unironically deserve hate and I haven't heard a single legitimate reason otherwise.
>>35036985Hate makes the world a less good place and is a torment to the soul
>>35037115Why are you gay
BUT ALSO YELLING AT PEOPLE ON THE INTERNET IS FUN TEHEHEHEGE
>>35037170Because its okay to be gay
>>35037218Its not okay to be a rapist
>>35037221What if he deserves it?
The time zone is a match.
it's over.
Yeah I'm that bitch whose name starts with J or whatever
>>35036985Cool. Now do a collage of all the men child abuse reports insteadWomen say the same shit about men. You're wasting your energy and mental health with this war of the sexes hate.
>>35037249I know a woman whose name starts with J
>>35037253Juanita?
>>35037285No...
It has slowly dawned on me that a lot of my insecurities and self-loathing are rooted in my childhood. I was ostracised and rejected by my peers, and when I was told, gently, that I had been diagnosed with aspergers when I was little, I began to feel like everyone around me was privy to something about myself that I could not perceive. I felt foolish and worthless. I tried to overcompensate by doing well in school, and putting on this brainy, know-it-all persona. But then I entered high school and had to reckon with the fact that I could not socially integrate with my peers. While they were all getting their drivers licenses, and getting part time jobs, and getting invited to parties, I was staying home, mentally spiralling.My spirit died completely, and since graduating high school I have been living in a zombified state, trudging listlessly through life, failing in all of my endeavours. And where-ever I go, I am treated like a leper, even by the "neurodivergents". I meet people who moan hysterically about their own mental health struggles, about their suicidality. But when I am sitting across from them they treat me like chopped liver, like I'm nothing. Why? I try to act sensibly, I don't act out. Sure, I stutter from time to time, and I have other anxious, awkward mannerisms, but I would hope that people would see past that. And when I walk down the street, it feels like I am being scrutinised by everyone who glances at me, as if there is somehow a big painted sign around my neck saying "I am a worthless, autistic loser".
>>35037355Yea, except I do unfortunately act out far, far, far more than I should. Still, it's hard to not believe that you deserve it, even when that is obviously untrue. I have gotten better, but I'm still behind my peers. Do you work?
>>35037227Go die, for everyone's sake
>>35037285JcuntThe j is silent
My name starts with a J. I'm thinking about someone named O. I'm embarrassed about how it all went down between us.
>>35037355Anon you are not alone. There is a loneliness epidemic with men now. A shit ton of men are lonely. I recently escaped the madness after a therapy session today. It is all in how you accept yourself as a human being who is authentically themselves, not some caricature people desire. Being the caricature is great, but looking back at who you are through it all as someone who is human and make mistakes is necessary. Added too you need to believe in virtue and have purpose in your thoughts, actions, and words. You as well exist as person people relate to through human vulnerability not as a practical individual or an intellectual which is what your peers wanted. The thing is though if they couldn't like the real you they're not worth it. Real people in life you should go for are people who are dead set on being around you and those who see your human side through it all. You're different anon and that is okay.
>>35037382Why the long face?
>>35036914im an active medical neglect victim. My parents dont care to take me to regular medical checkups and dont remember to book a doctor's appointment when i complain about pain, so i simply dont get medical care. Im always tired, hurting, or both, but im scared ill get yelled at if i complain too much so i just bottle it in. Ive had depression since i was 9 and been expierncing disability like symptoms since middle school so im worried im just medically fucked forever. When i was 13 i begged my parents to get my bloodwork done (it was 4 years overdue, i hadnt had any since i was a baby) and my mom booked the appointment 6 months out so it would work to qualify me for sports even though i didnt want to do sports (because they hurt too much). I had had an untreated iron deficiency for years. Im worried the damage from that fucked me up permantely too.Part of it is the terror of being disabled and part of it is the exhaustion of having to pretend im mentally and physically fine + i almost have to act like a parent for my parents sometimesthis is all legal aswell as im still afloat and if im not a fuckup for other people rhan im fine enough for my situation to not count as neglect
I'm going to kill myself in November 2027.
>>35036914After years of panic attacks and OCD i'm finally on SSRIs but I'm scared i will turn into a normie.Also I think about this one girl that I met once at the bar more than my ex girlfriend who I thought I was going to marry. LIFE
>>35037249Why are you a bitch?
Where can I post somebody's name and address so they get bombarded with junk mail?
I told you my terms, man. I'm not tolerating anymore abuse.
>>35037495Why? That's fucking horrible.
>>35037526The energy you put out will return to you, eventually. Watch out.
>>35037567I'm just so pissed at the shitbag who stole my credit card.
>>35037567>>35037577I wish he was swinging from a tree.
>>35037495somewhere in digital space, there is a 10 page list of times that i said was going to kill myself and i never followed through. and they knew i would never follow through because i told them i would kill myself. and i know you're not going to kill yourself because you're telling us now. see you next year.
>>35037472If your 18 or older just move out nigga or just book medical appointments with a doctor yourself without asking your parents
>>35036914I think I hate muslims more than I hate my ex. this is a turning point. i would rather be an agnostic crusader than an obsessive incel.
>>35036985The new propaganda campaign.
I thought I was going to be a loser my whole life, but now I'm doing better than most people around me, and I don't know how to handle that because it does not cure loneliness
>>35037547What happened desu
i hate myself. everytime i almost learn my lesson i do it again.
>>35037686Replace your bad addiction by something else. Relapses happen, learn to understand when you're about to fuck up and walk away from it. Easier said than done but with time it does get easier.
>>35037681Long story or short?
The HMO rental I live in got sold for rock bottom prices, worst part is, it's my bedroom that's the feature picture of the house, which is mortifying as it was taken in absolutely awful condition , which means every other room was somehow far far worse.I'm a 90th percentile earner and I live with Africans and bums, God have mercy on me.
>>35037757>I'm a 90th percentile earner and I live with Africans and bumsIn which country?
>>35037768UK. I literally earn £800 a week post tax. Was struck off from work for 6 months, racked up some £9k in debt.
>>35037367Not at the moment, but I have before. I'm currently studying and getting paid for it by the government, which covers most of my expenses.>>35037440Thanks. I tried therapy a few years ago but the therapist wasn't very good. Then I was told by a GP that I could not see a psychiatrist unless I was already on ssri's. I have a couple of friends but I'm not really in regular contact with anyone.
It’s easier for my to wrap my head around facing prison than slitting my wrist. I no longer have what I need to shoot myself in the head and I can’t obtain it unless I steal it which isn’t worth the risk. I don’t see myself committing to any method of suicide but I’m scared that I will wish I had.
>>35037772>2800€/mo is 90th percentile in the UKJesus fuck dude you need to leave that shithole. Or at least go in the countryside where rent is cheaper
Honestly, I should thank you for that final comment. It's made me much more sure that I'm doing the right thing, and that even if you were to take accountability, it wouldn't be meant. It would be just to humor me, and it would all just keep happening.
>>35037588I did this too. Now I just don't say anything and am letting it build until I can actually commit to it. I'm at the point where I actually feel a kind of giddiness at the thought of dying and I'm going through my bucket list. Although I guess technically posting this will set me back a bit.
One who shows no remorse, but taunts you with glee at the suffering they’ve caused you. At least I felt shame for my actions. I still do, their cruelty won’t change that, though I’m sure they’ll try. >Submit yourself to a lie and call yourself a monster or i’ll treat you like one Agony. And I was the one who never loved according to them. It hurts, they’ve thought it through and decided they want more of it, even when it’s not just you it’ll harm in the long run.By all means, keep beating the dog, he deserves it for his stupidity.
Cut for 4 days in a row.Didn't cut today.Now I feel like I'm an overdramatic piece of shit.Urge to cut again to correct alleviate that feeling.Damn.
>I really loved you don’t you get it that’s why I don’t forgive you and lied to you and laugh when you open up to me about your struggles and perspective >theyve already dumped me and moved on >im pathetic >You get what you fucking deserveI should’ve never shown weakness. I’m sorry father.
And even still… I Love You
>>35038034Think of it like a drug, like you're going through withdrawals - and you are, cutting releases endorphins. The longer you stay off of it, the easier it will get. Blast some angry music. Move and dance erratically, burn off energy. I'm a few months clean, after having relapsed after many years. Helps if you can identify your triggers and steer clear of those too, until you can build back your resiliency.
>>35038051I don’t understand why one would start. I helped a girl stop in grade school, but I don’t get the initial desire to begin it.
>>35038047Me too fren. Play any good games recently?
>>35038059Qt cat, played zombies with a few frens a few days ago. You?
I want to be loved and love
Soon I will be 40 years old and still alone.I don't wish to be alone anymore
>>35038062Still trying to get through part 1 on all routes of fire emblem fortunes weave. Why is this game so long?
Slow down man I can’t run for president yet.
>>35038055Especially when it occurs in youth, it's generally due to sustained psychological abuse and a lack of safe attachments that eats away at one's self worth and resiliency leaving them in acute mental (often turned physical) pain. They seek the most available "fix" to stop that pain. It's the same situations that lead to drug and alcohol addictions, which can be harder for youth to access than cutting implements. There's also the visual aspect of the blood, representing the pain leaving your body.
>>35038028>I reacted poorly to X I’m sorry >doesn’t matter because you reacted poorly >I didn’t mean to do it >doesn’t matter because you did >I apologized >doesn’t matter>I’ve been doing better even though it’s been hard to accommodate you can you show me some grace >no doesn’t matter >im just trying to explain >doesn’t matter you’re dismissing me >im trying to understand your feelings can you understand mine >no >I want you to not do X it’s an expectation and value I hold deeply >idc I’m not that anymore >I care about you >no you don’t because you differ at all from me >i want to be able to express things in ways that are natural for me >no, only me >I feel bad too>manipulative you only voice your concerns when we’re talking about concerns >can you please stop calling me X and insulting me when you’re mad >fuck you X you’re XYZ >I’ve done so much to show you I care >doesn’t matter it’s manipulation and not real because you’ve also done bad things under very fucked up circumstances and any attempt to mitigate any of them is delegitimization of my feelings >the beaten dog merits the beating it because he growled during a previous beating I forgive you. But I cannot be a punching bag, nor a plot device. You’re under no obligation to forgive me for my sins. >>35038087Attention seeking too I imagine for kids. Though the kids that get that far generally probably wouldn’t have people that cared to begin with, or they’re just genetically fucked.
>>35038094i see their point bro you should probably do some reading
>>35038075Its really fun, I spent well over 120 hours to beat FW but really enjoyed my time playing it. I like the formula for what they did this time and hope to see them refine it in the next game
>>35038102On what my nigga?
>>35038075Never played but it seems decent desu
>>35038121unironically healthy communication bro like you sound fucked to deal with teebeeache
I miss her and I havent stopped thinking about her for the past 3 months despite her ignoring me since then. I know that I need to move on but I also want to reach out just to get closure to confirm theres no hope
>>35038135Explain how, if im crazy I’d like to learn lmfao
My life is nothing. I have nothing and I amount to nothing. I just want to be someone that someone else can't do without
>>35038158Why?
>>35038144>im just trying to explain>doesn’t matter you’re dismissing me>im trying to understand your feelings can you understand mine>i want to be able to express things in ways that are natural for me>manipulative you only voice your concerns when we’re talking about concerns>I’ve done so much to show you I care>doesn’t matter it’s manipulation and not real because you’ve also done bad thingsidk bruh just getting the vibe that youre making everything about yourself and justifying it because you dont like the discomfort when a nigga tells you theres a problem
>>35038167Some people just fall through the cracks. Some people didn't believe enough in life, not even as children. Born petrified
>>35038174That’s not substantive, no one likes when a problem arises, the issue is being able to determine if it’s legitimate and then communicate about it. >>35038175Non answer. Think about why you want what you want.
>>35038182>if it's legitimate and imma guess youre the one deciding that thendefo seeing why they left you brother
>>35038182>Think about why you want what you wantI have a personality disorder
>>35038187Do you think perceived problems are never illegitimate? No miscommunication leading to erroneous or unfair conclusions? Are you retarded?
>>35038187Its the guy who got arrested for abusing his gf and blames her for it just ignore him
>>35038194A personality disorder doesn’t make one want to fall in love. The drive to reproduce does. Now how can you do that?
>>35038197Definitely not, nor am I Mike.
>>35038196>Are you retarded?nah bro, just happily married, have a good one
>>35038205Good dodge. Nigger!
>>35038197Kek he's still here? My new favorite lolcow. Nigga loves playing victim.
Nigga nigga nigga that’s all you black motherfuckers talk about is niggas
>>35038199By putting myself out there more, by giving life a chance. But I don't want to. It makes me cringe because inside it makes me want to cry. I actually want to lay on the grave I dug for myself, but I'm also so sensitive that many times I feel the need to cry when I see people out there loving each other, having fun, enjoying their lives in their simple and placid ways, not entirely out of pity for myself like the sad bastard that I am, but also genuinely out of secondhand joy. That means I'm not lost yet, but I want to be because it's easier.
>>35038222a nigga gotta announce himself
>>35038226That’s a good assessment. One thing about BDP girlies and ED girlies is they’re usually actually introspective when they aren’t self destructing. How can you control the latter to find a suitable man to indulge in the former?
>>35038204nobody thinks youre mike, cuz mike would never abuse his lover <3
>>35038232I'm a dude
Me and my gf bought a custom-made, expensive cabinet. We chose everything from the shape, shelves, wood, etc. The guys came by to install it and I had to be at work but she could work from home so she was here while they assembled it, and... It's the absolute wrong color. The one we bought was elegant, gorgeous, perfect. The one we had delivered looks like a hospital cabinet. It's solid white. I fucking despise it. She sent me a picture and called me while they were almost done assembling it. Couldn't you have fucking said something when you saw the huge blinding white wood planks entering our home? The guy at the store tried to gaslight me into thinking we chose that garish, ridiculous color. My gf said she likes it, it looks good with the lighting, etc. But I fucking hate it. Every time I look at it, it's a reminder that I cannot trust her with the important stuff. She was right there while they raped our cabinet. Is this what the "ick" feels like?
>>35038233Maria cucked him, she deserves it. >>35038234Then just lift weights, BPD and ED are not correlated positively with anything as a man. They’re problems to be worked through. Obstacles to be overcome, a woman will not save you. Internalize that ans better yourself.
>>35037745Long
>>35038241>Then just lift weightsFuck off you hylic cunt. You have nothing useful to say
>>35038245Cope and seethe about the primordial truth. Your tears trigger a mother instinct rather than a desire instinct in women.
>>35038252Do you consume anything outside of manosphere self-sucking podcasts or were you just born a faggot?
>>35038252So be it. Fuck you and your faux performed longhouse masculinity. You will NEVER EVER stop me from snowbirdin'
>>35038137I did that and got blocked to confirm the connection is severed.
>>35038258False dichotomy, ad hominem o algo, pussy. >>35038262Nigger you are weak and to be laughed at because it’s by way of deliberate sloth.
>>35038269I could literally kill you in real life with my bare hands. You're probably 5 foot and a half and brown
>>35038278You wish o algo, I’m an Aryan specimen, a rare actual White Internet WN UwU
>>35038285Post hands
>>35038287Perhaps if you ask politely
Unholy amount of larping cringe going on rn what happened to >im not coming back to this website
>>35038296This is just male bonding
I want to bed wrestle with a cute girl tonight
>>35038311Same senpai. I wish they were good people.
>>35038241You don't know that. From what I'm told it will work out with us.
>>35038314I love you dude, but you gotta move on bro. You’ve accused me and 6,000,000 others of being Colton, narcissists, etc. She’s gone bro. Hit the gym.
>>35038318>Hit the gym.What's going on at the gym? You're getting fucked raw in the ass in the locker rooms and because that works for you, you think it will be the same for everyone else? Get a grip
It's nice to talk to people with real (and shared) hobbies and interests without being accused of cheating or wanting to cheat, for a change.
Stings still. Cruel. I’m meant to learn this lesson but never do, apparently.
>>350383403/3 on monkeybranching or cheating Sit in your suffering, and grow, just as before. You showed weakness so you deserved it, this time.
>>35038347Am I really that unlovable? At least never in the long term, we used to have a proper culture to prevent this, but it’s been lost. I’ll do my part to crush those who allowed for this cancer to develop.
Still with the nasty accusations meant to shame and control and playing victim, hm?
JDIMSA
I should just accept things as they are rather than hoping. It’s possible to better oneself, it is not possible to better others. Enjoy the cruelty you inflict. It’s unjust, and won’t be reciprocated. I love you. That’s a me problem, now.
The "cruelty I inflict" is leaving you because of your abusive patterns of behavior and inability to take accountability for them.
Not even a question of forgiveness, it's just stupid to keep reaching out my hand to an aggressive dog
Monkeybranching/cheating. Honestly, you live in an entirely different reality. Or is that you needing to make yourself feel better, like you were dumped because the other was bad, definitely not anything you could have done.
I'm rather disappointed in myself for ever letting your guilt trips work on me, and trying to soothe your deluded concerns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxth_aj450
An aggressive dog would bite. An abusive man would hit. I was the one who you hit. I don’t try to shame you for it. You were drunk once and suffering from medical complications the other time so I don’t label you a monster for it, or worse, want you to see yourself as one. That’s sadistic. You apologized, I accepted it, I don’t want you to feel bad for it. I don’t seek to villainize you for your faults. That’s how I show love, loyalty, forgiveness, kindness. Wanting to perpetually make you out to be what you were at your worst, and then state that if you don’t identify as such that you’re not repentant would be sadistic. You choosing to shit talk me now is a choice, made freely. You’ve found others, they like to knit or felt or some other fabric related thing too. I get it, you don’t have to repeat it as though it’s some righteous thing or that I deserve to be taunted because I had wanted mutual forgiveness rather than condemnation.
It’s all stupid. Trying to convince someone who enjoys pain to stop it. I forgive you, for whatever you decide that’s worth. Fool that I am.
>>35038416Always will be. At least you’ve still a purpose. Something bigger than you. Others need you. Don’t be cruel to yourself, beaten fool. Stand up.
My knee feels like it's getting worse.
I feel horrible. I installed hinge to see what my dating prospects could look like, despite being in a long term relationship already. a couple things would need to change in the next year to continue on with this relationship. it sucks because it's perfect aside from one irreconcilable difference that I'm already beginning to resent her over, and I think would devolve further with time. I feel terribly scummy. It's rare that I actually feel a sense of guilt because I otherwise don't do such unethical things
Yes yes, telling me you hate me, enjoy when I cry, want to hurt me, cornering me and flexing when I tell you you're scaring me, following me from room to room telling me how I'm not a woman, how I must have done something to deserve being choked, writing about how I deserved to be raped and it was all I was good for, how you wanted to strangle me, kill me, calling me a demon, forcing your cock in my mouth despite me saying no repeatedly, following me around the house with accusations of wanting to cheat, of wanting other men more, of being more attracted to other men because after tearing my genitals in 3 places and 2hrs of broken sleep a night for months after birthing our child I couldn't handle a lot of sex and certainly not as rough and hurtful as you wanted, hitting an infant so hard they're stunned into silence, screaming at them fucking retard, yelling in their face to shut up for crying when you're pushing their head or arm into the changing table, right, no, nine of that is abuse, right?
Telling me I could go to you if I was feeling suicidal or like cutting then accusing me and telling everyone I attempted or threatened to, suddenly having all these grievances with me when I would bring up that something you did or didn't do made me sad or disappointed or frustrated, the fact that only your perspective, experience, and intent mattered, and not mine or the impact on me, that the "forgiveness" you demand is to just never ever be affected by any of that and just let it happen, that all the disrespect you say I do is shit you do and say to me, but it's somehow "justified"
Enjoy pain? I'm leaving you to escape pain.
>>35038411Brother if she hit you just leave. You can’t live like that.
Should have left you the first time you swore at me and berated me for locking the door while pregnant and living alone in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the country, or when you aggressively kicked at a kittens face repeatedly because he got excited and ran around your feet. You're an animal, a dangerous, unlovable beast.
>>35038467That's one of the greatest near gets and time gets I've ever seen.
>>35038439>hate me Said that when you wanted a divorce after I’d already endured and forgiven so much >wanted to hurt/cry The actual quotes were something akin to: Emotionally when you hurt me I want to hurt you back but don’t, so please don’t insult me when you’re mad”, and “I caught myself feeling happy when you were crying, that’s a problem and shows how bad the resentment has gotten and I want to fix things”>cornering me I followed you while we were arguing, that’s how I argue, I can see why that scared you. I’m sorry for that, but that wasn’t my intention. You starting an argument then walking away and ignoring me hurts. I wrote heinous things in a private journal, as did you. I never wanted you to see them, just wanted to get them out since I could never and I mean never express anything negative to you, or yell even while you yelled otherwise you’d call it abusive and damaging. Double standards that hurt, months of not being able to address pain you’d caused, while I let you insult me. >accusations of wanting to cheat You lied to me about missing your ex, and then spoke to men who were artsy, deliberately at that same while you made no effort to hide that you hated that I’m not an artistI can see you’re still insulting me though as I write. No explanations, no forgiveness, it’s all a one way street where I can forgive and listen and you just condemn. All those times we agreed to forgive, that you told me you had, you hadn’t. Only I had. That’s why it came up without a fight. You just want to perpetually condemn a man who’s saved your life. Stopped you from slamming a knife into your throat. I put up with a lot but you take things out of context and fixate only on the bad I’ve done because you want a villain. Yeah, I’ve don’t very bad things. I apologize, genuinely. I feel shame and dread when I think about the pain it caused you, even now. You don’t. My God, you certainly don’t.
Fucking unnerving man.
>>35038266Honestly that would give me more peace rn
I won’t kill you. I will beat your fucking faggot retarded ass into such a state that you will never heal enough to get that fucking job and humiliate you so badly that you beg for the gun I slide your way and tell you man up and pull the trigger
>>35038240Sounds like you need to politely assert that you want it changedBut this is ultimately a retarded stupid thing to jeopardize your relationship over so dont like die on this hill
>>35038521Shiet nigga
Yeah nvm man I've said the same things a dozen times over, I've tried to apologize and comfort you and talk to you and make space for you to talk to me and learn constructive ways to do that instead of just berating the other, tried to get us into counseling, you don't care, you want to continue the narcissistic abuse and twisting my words and actual events (I play back the recordings lmao) so you can continue larping as the victim. You're incapable of genuine apology because you defend every act of cruelty, of naming it as such, and because you don't want to change the behavior and way of thought and conduct at the core of it.
I’m sorry. I forgive you, I don’t want to call you by your sins. I wish you’d forgive me. I acknowledge the damage I’ve caused. The hurt. The pain. I want to hold you and take it all away. But you don’t. I want to try. But that cannot be by way of condemning one another. I want love not a score of how much the other has done wrong. It was a horrible time for us both, why not just love one another and work on it?
>oh no, awful things I did to someone caused lasting damage! This must be their fault!
If you even needed more time, wanted to slow down, I’d understand. But you’ve not forgiven me. What were those times we cried in each others arms about having done so? Was it like everyone said? Or was that actually you? I fret over you, do you know how scary it was when you were trying to stab yourself???? Does it mean nothing how I cried and stopped you and told you I loved you?? Does it mean nothing I risked being followed to reassure you I loved you and would see things through?
You don't want to do the work required and requested to fix it, you made that very clear.
Does all of it mean nothing? Forgiving you? Does it mean nothing to you? I’ve been better about your condition, more gentle, more understanding, more space. I really tried. I didn’t give up. I’m not even mad about the things you’ve done, even now, they hurt but I don’t condemn you. I don’t insult you. When everyone told me to leave and write you off I didn’t. I covered for you. I risked everything. Why isn’t it enough? Please tell me why I’m such an unlovable beast. Why do you hate me?
Of course I haven't forgiven you. You haven't changed at all.
I'm so tired.
A man who thinks abuse is only beating the shit out of someone is telling on himself, that he will abuse you in every other way.
We didn’t even have a fight. I took you places you liked, even though I’m not artsy and I know you think less of me for it. I take an interest in the things you love, encourage you. It was the worst time of my life and I still… So what makes me unlovable? Is it because I grumble at annoyances? It’s how I was raised. Because I stomped at a cat to teach it not to get in front of us? My dad did that and it stole my childhood cat from doing so. I’ve never hurt an animal. Is it because of what you went through? You see these things as more dangerous because of brain reshaping itself due to the things you’d gone through. I read about it, I tried to be better, we didn’t have any fights. Even when you were mad at me and crying because I spoke to my family, I listened to you. I didn’t shoot you down like yiu said it felt like I did. I’ve made the changes you’ve requested. Didn’t I?
>>35038614Ah. Ok, so it was a lie. Ok. I see. You don’t have to. Thanks for being honest. Ha…
Nah, forgave you at the time, till I realized you had no intention of changing.
At least it makes some sense now. Ha. So they were right. Ok. I’m stupid. I’m dumb and naive and blind. Dumb dog. Dumb.
Fool.
>things you've gone through>your conditionNarcissists sure love twisting things to be their victims' fault.As if I wasn't only diagnosed after being with you
It means nothing, fool. Meant nothing. Hated fool. Pitiful fool. Never again, just like last time, fool.
Keep downplaying the harm you cause as "just grumbling" and shit, bet that works really well for you.
Liar. You told me about that at the beginning, I thought I could love any problem away, so I didn’t read into it. A fool.
Fool. Alone. Rot. Rebuild. Shield others.
Should’ve listened. Everyone else. So stupid. Just wanted to be loved. Have a family. Trad life. Ha, a foolish dream. Your pain is mocked, your sacrifices used against you. You’ve given up every means by which to protect yourself for the sake of hope. You’ll be cut down further, with glee.
You get what you fucking deserve. In the end, I suppose. Aye, suppose. Why inquire further? Pointless. Useless. Foolish.
Fucking moron. Ballless spineless cunt you deserved it. Crying like a bitch when you could’ve stopped it all. Restrained yourself. You deserve every beating you got and more for being this much of a disappointment. Warned at every turn and you still chose this. Suffer and die you worthless fuck. Trapped forever with this around your neck. It’s not just your life you’ve ruined by way of your stupidity and incompetence. The devil laughs at you, inadequate shield. Piss poor leader. Soft weak excuse for a man.
How fucking dare you. Put your hopes on another. What have you been taught? Learn nothing, moron? God will allow them to rub your nose in it until you do. You’re a tool. Discarded. Stop seeking love. Harden yourself. That’s when success comes. When you do things of actual value. When you soften you’re stomped on. As is nature. There was no one to protect you this time. You have to be the one to stop the injustice when you can control it.
Spectacle. Clown. A beast would at least merit respect, empathy. You know exactly what you did wrong. No way to fix it now. Suffer. Harden. No more sweet lies whispered into your ear. Ah, but they were nice. Indulgences always are. They kill you though. And you’ve a purpose, move forward, husk.
All the little smiles, the laughs, the tears, all meant nothing. Hahaha. Oh man, at least I know I’m not a psychopath. Shit, meant a lot to me LOL. Fucking brutal buddy. Hit the gym and give your balls a tug.
>>35038521This little guy must be upset
what the fuck is triggering this?
every night i go to sleep begging not to wake up
>>35038875God is with you, anon. Rest.
King of McDonald’s
whenever i randomly pick up the guitar and start improvising lyrics they always seem to be about breaking up with my girlfriend and killing myselffuck
I don’t want to suicide to avoid prison. Ultimately the reason why I attempted was to hold my word after a desperate attempt to receive an explanation I was looking for, combined with other struggles. After the round failed to discharge I couldn’t bring myself to load another for a second try and tried to accept that I wasn’t meant to die that day.
I used the slug that I had flipped upside down inside the box it came in and I have to wonder if someone tampered with it to prevent it from firing.
Drank alcohol until the 9th and on the 21st of this month. I rarely have access to it and haven’t been craving it. I feel better without it and don’t want it anymore.
>>35038318I am in the right and am correct. I will not be misled like she was. I keep my promise to her. I know her as she is with me directly and don't allow outside influence of this middle shit to harm us.
>>35038404Ruminating on mistakes and actions does not make it better. If you know how you were wronged and what you should have done then take then and do it. I'm around if you would like to talk.
>>35038411The mask dropped and you are seeing past the play acting repeating words he doesn't mean to cause you to be mislead by lies
>>35038439The mask dropped. Horrid rot of a person. Ghost block and be free. You never should have gone there in the first place.
>>35038494A turd to scrape off your shoe
>>35038585There is no forgiveness for this. No words or dancing around changes the facts. Victim blaming, guilt tripping, excuses. Best to ignore your words. You are that person as written here. That's the truth. There's no changing that or seeing it different. Only despicable behavior. Never forget what you wrote here and always look at that to see the truth. >>35038439
I still have faith and it's more than hope when God makes a promise. He knows all time. He is not fickle and doesn't change his mind, he lives in all time all at once. His promise is communication of occurance in that time. So I have faith in God and keep my love of her, who she truly is.
I’m not going to attempt suicide again.
>>35039089Yeah, reading it back, and how he constantly turns it around to how much he forgives me, doesn't "villainize" me, doesn't want to me me feel bad, it makes me feel sick that I ever put in the effort I did. Explaining constantly to someone who doesn't want to understand or change their own thinking, so manipulative that in each message it's "I don't villainize you" next to "you enjoy pain, you're a cheater, a liar." They expect me to just get over it all, as if that's a choice, as if what was done was small enough and infrequently enough to do so. I gave them the final chance, requested the apology with explicit accountability and a specific counseling program for such relationships, and the black glare came out, and the gaslighting & lack of accountability came back out in full, backtracking and denying things he said just moments before. Thanks for helping me see it. One of many that have.I'm going to focus on building good friendships, and safety and love for my baby.
The body remembers. Nightmares, flashbacks, pain when touched, adrenaline and cortisol flood in randomly when you're near, inability to breathe or speak.
One day I will find the love, the openness, the safety, that holds your soul in peace with another.
Lying on bed until 5 PM. Feel extremely tired, low mood, low energy. Can't get my ass to do anything except for getting some coffee down the street
I'm going to take shrooms in spring, I've decided. I'll have someone watch them, then wander off into the river, and all of this pain and confusion and indignation will wash away. My mind, body, and soul will move on.
Understanding where you're coming from, recognizing your upbringing and lack of capacity, doesn't matter. I know not to take it personally, it's about you and your internal state, not me. Insight and empathy does not mean I need to give you access.
>>35038055You hate yourself more than you care about your own safety, sorta.
To be honest I don't feel like my self harm is anything like an addiction. It's more like I do it because I'm stupid but I don't have any "need" to do it. It's an actively bad decision that I could simply not take but choose to because I'm an idiot.
I hadn’t thought about suicide since I was a teenager. I had it pressed to my head then thought about her. Is it better to have a failure of a dad barely allowed to raise them or no dad? I’m not a monster. I spoke to so many and they confirmed that, those who have known me for a long time, and a short time. I tried. I tried so hard.
It’s hard to accept. My brain can’t. Keeps fighting. I’m not a monster.
I don’t deserve this. I did so much. Saved them. Doesn’t matter. Fool. With such ease discarded. They want a villain. A narrative. They want you to suffer. They even said their words were empty to you.
So you’ll hurt, and live as a failure. Your child will be ruined, and you’ll try to put on a smile to mitigate the damage. You’re ruined. You sinned. You deserve worse than this desu. Not the betrayal though, no one deserves that.
And much like before, everything good meant nothing, will continue to be called fake, dehumanized, villainized, dressed up in therapy speak. Man becomes plot device to justify the unjustifiable. Liar. Hurt. It hurts. It hurts. It hurts.
>>35039199I'm glad you are finally awake. I'll add you in my prayers for a bit. For God to make the crooked path straight.
They lied. They don’t forgive. They hate. So hard to accept and yet I see it right in front of me, told directly. My love and effort met with coldness. There’s no logic in that. Every word I speak or write turned into some evil narrative. Manipulation, gaslighting, narcissism. As though I’m well and truly a monster. Black eyes. Soulless. These are not the words of a lover. I forgive you even still. What you did to me was not good, I justified it to myself a lot. Doesn’t matter. I forgive you. Punching bag. Broken boy. Yiu get what you deserve.
Suffer. Suffer. Suffer. Suffer. You’re nothing. Tool. Should’ve listened. How dare you think you’d be understood instead of used. Think that your efforts would matter. That your forgiveness would be reciprocated. You’re weak. You let yourself be. Never again. Feel this pain. It will teach you as it has before. They will never love you when you show weakness. Kill yourself. You won’t. You’ll justify even that. Self preservation for what? Objectively, I suppose you help others. You’re told that every day. Thank God for that. When all you had was them, the pain was constant. Never good enough. But you still wanted to help. Surely they’d see that. Haha.
>>35039199As you can see after this post he made a bunch more gaslighting and such. He's going to look for a way to weasel in. Lie directly , larp as another to scare or influence you to make a certain decision, take advice from a "stranger". Make larp posts of situations similar to you and same fag to influence the narrative. The best you can do is remember>>35038439What he did to you to harm you. Especially >hitting an infant so hard they're stunned into silence, screaming at them fucking retard, yelling in their face to shut up for crying when you're pushing their head or arm into the changing table,Never give in. As you can see he already started doing the dance to convince you of his narrative. God bless you.
Even now, “oh boohoo save me it’s the result of my own stupidity” “if I whine enough about how hard I tried and how bad it hurts they’ll care” no one does. Not about this. You’re useful as a tool, and as a dick and wallet, as she said. Women don’t want to take on your pain with you as you do theirs. Their love isn’t like that. >I don’t forgive you, merely mouthed the words while you cried I think that will haunt me forever
Everything you did for them meant nothing. They don’t see any love there. You do, even now, and that’s why you suffer, ironically. Deserved. Suffer.
Suffer. Be used. Abandoned. Tool. Used. Used. Used. Used. Used. Used. Used. Remember when you kept hoping and praying for them? When you risked everything to see them for them? When everyone told you to leave and you stayed over and over and over and over.
Anger comes. It fades. The pain will too, eventually. Haha. Pitiful fool.
>>35039470Attempting to haunt me only shows you are throwing a tantrum because your narc ego is bruised because you are seen for who you are and deserves removed. Being vindictive and attacking me and attempting to harm maria and I with your bullshit larps shows what a pos narc you are and she is right to leave you.
It was planned too wasn’t it? You can be honest. They were right werent they? This was a plan, it failed and you backpeddled? You pretended to be nice, right? You just want total control. You waited until you had everything until I really thought things were better to do this. You want to make me look crazy, right? Ha. Haha. >>35039476Sage advice as always. Schitzophrenic.
I’ll reach out my hand again to be slapped away. I never learn. You beget punishment. You deserve it. I do. I do. I do.
>>35039480It's clear you are being vindictive and larping about m. You narc out and will attempt character argument but guess what? This is describes you>>35038439That's enough to see what a horrid person you are and what you do to manipulate other with your lies and larps. I urge Maria to be aware of your bullshit. Me helping an abused mother and abused child find safety unfortunately triggered the abusive narc to larp at us.
I deserve it, too. Intellectually anyway, I can see why. I go insane. Thank God I’ve been able to speak to others. I would always blame myself. Always. Still do even now but it’s not my fault, not entirely. It feels good to have that validated. To know I’m not crazy. It hurts though too. I love you. Even though you hurt me so much.
Oscillating between blaming myself and laughing at my stupidity and blaming myself and replaying over and over looking for anything I could’ve done differently. I apologized desu, I changed what I could as requested and it still meant nothing. Their ultimatum was clear. Their goal, too. With or without your consent you’ll be a monster in their mind. They’ll forget or ignore what they did, likely how it’s always gone. A fools errand to try to help, too bad I’m a fool. >you did bad>yes, I’m sorry, you did bad too>no, abusive, lied about forgiving you Banging your head against a wall would be more productive than trying to reason.
Every single day for weeks I covered for them. Under the most pressure I could’ve possibly been under. I put everything I had on the line for lies. I deserve at least a headpat. And yet? Only she knows. It makes no sense to most others because they didn’t know what was really at stake. Just looks dumb to them, and now it will forever. My image that I care sooooo much about protecting: retard. I love looking like a retard. Just adore it.
>I did so much Doesn’t matter >I forgave so much Doesn’t matter >I tried so hard Doesn’t matter You don’t matter. Not to them. So hard to accept, but I must.
>>35039484Dude she’s literally bragged about talking to other guys. How am I forgetting this. Yeah bro, cooked. Hold the L. Etc.
I hate women. My whole life is just women telling me what to do. Nagging and bitching. My boss at my job is a woman. My coworkers are women. My brother's girlfriend is a cunt. My mom is domineering. I hate women so much.
Loving the right person isn't supposed to be that difficult. Maybe it was bad timing, but I clearly wasn't being met in the middle.
Again, again, and again, for the first time
>>35039547Aye. It feels that way, but the stakes were so high. Failure wasn’t an option, but it also wasn’t my choice. I’ll explain it to them some day, and do my best to mitigate the pain that will be foisted upon them. Poor innocent soul. So kind and undeserving of this. It makes me cry. Victimizing them. Using them to justify one’s selfishness. Knowing full well how bad this is for them. It’s sick. Demented. What does one do when there can be no justice? When anger cannot even be expressed?
>>35039547I have madd hate in my heart for one person. I despise them and would feel that life would be better for everyone if they just were never strong. Its not that I anyone else,, I just don't want him. (I sound like a broken record because I have told them this MANY TIMES)And he wonders why it all fell apart KEK
>>35039565Strong?? Wtf *around.. stupid t9
>>35039565Tbh that's an attitude even a mother wouldn't love
Faith in us over all else>I'll always love you and care about you >No matter what >You mean so much >Yes >You complete me >I complete you >I love you more >You are the only home I have free of judgment and anything that will upset me If you want, you can lay down, close your eyes, and live in that with me You can wear my shirt >I'm crying because I need you this argument is temporary but I'll always have that empty part needing you >I am your home too I need you too We make each other whole I was thinking about that earlier No one has ever accepted me the way you do >You are perfect The best you can do is be there for me in your way >That's good to hear I love you >Lot >You make things better >Even when you aren't here, you do so much>You are the only thing that matters now >It's been like that for so long >Nothing will ever change that I want every part of you I need your touch I love you >I hope I dream of you tonight >I love you
i need to stop being so pathetic with women i start developing feelings for. can get a hookup or first date fine, but anything longer than that just falls apart.how do i stop acting anxious and clingy? why do i need constant reassurance even with women i've barely started hitting it off with?
>>35039434>>35039454Thank you Mike, I'll keep you in mine as well.
I have to go to work and entertain some boomer tech while he takes up space in my shop fixing some shit that couldn't care less about, while I have my own work to do and can't do for the duration that he'll be in my way for. And all i wanna do is sit at home.
>>35039615You are writing self doubt and demoralization. Trash those thoughts. Be confident, trust and know.
Okay, I genuinely need advice on this.It just so happens that when I meet new people or talk to my friends again, I don't feel anything, no interest, no enthusiasm, I just feel like the conversation needs to end quickly, or socializing really pisses me off.Am I turning into a grump or just being a jerk?
>>35038881if this is what god being with me gets, i’d rather he fucked off
>>35039692Some of us keep our mouth shut because we never feel good enough or there we can ever be correct
>>35039692youre being both, but you can change. sometimes you just need time alone to recharge. it's important to recognize when you feel like that and to not lash out at others.
>>35039750Sometimes silence is the best response we can give, and personally I don't feel there's a need to be right all the time.>>35039763I think I definitely need some time alone; somehow I feel like I'm wearing myself out trying to find a way to communicate properly, which ends up exhausting me socially.
>>35039784(me)Fuck, now that I think about it, I have a friend who knows how to draw and I'd like him to send me his stuff, but that bridge burned down a long time ago.
>>35039790what made the bridge burn that badly that you can't just reach out?
>>35039809Lack of communication and interest on my part, in short, being as I said above.Like, yeah, let it go instead of staying there
My dog died. She lived at my dad's because when I moved away and got married/had kids she was already 11 so it felt like it made more sense for her to stay in her familiar space. Im so sad and feel so guilty for basically abandoning her. When I would come and visit my dad I would bring my new dog and kids and she was just so isolated. I feel like a horrible person and now she's gone forever
One sentence accountability-less self-pity, the next insulting me. Yep, that'll change my mind.
>>35036914Explained my situation to my colleaguesNothing but supportiveBut I feel shit at my job, I'm waking up late, I'm not sleeping enough, the thought of throwing myself into oncoming traffic crossed my mind.Not dramatically just, I feel worthless
Is it bad that I barely feel anything when I cut now. Please say it's because I'm so cool and awesome.
I know exactly how you think and view things now, you've written and yelled enough explanations. There's nothing salvageable there.
>>35039930Because you've built up a tolerance to the dopamine/adrenaline that releases.Stop now. Your body is a temple and scarification is deeply un-Godly
>>35039954Ok, then please explain to me what I don’t understand. Because I’m confused
>>35039823I am so sorry for your loss. I would give everything I have for more time with my pet who passed. When a pet passes there is no longer an opportunity to do better. The grief does not lessen, it doesnt go away. I hope in the next life I have the opportunity to do better. Until then ill carry that weight. I found that others do not understand and it made me sick to hear the suggestion of getting a new companion. That was a very common response. Its been about 5 years now and I still havent been able to do that. It doesnt feel right and I dont think I will.
Saw the Junior Eurovision winner for this year, thought wow that isn't shit. And after going down a small rabbit hole I feel like a certified nonce if I were to say to a single soul I know irl that Coeur is amazing, Qami Qami is a banger, because who wants to say I listen to music sung by children...
>>35039980They won’t.
>>35040050Nothing more to explain. I've said it all many times before.
>>35039692i have no advice but i can share an anecdote. i don't usually enjoy talking to people that much, even close friends, and i get annoyed by my girlfriend. there's a clerk at the store however who isn't someone i'd probably hang out with, but shares a lot of my interests in geeky shit and has a personality that i find endearing and entertaining. whenever i go to the store i genuinely enjoy talking with him for 5-10 minutes. we both know it's temporary and that it's over as soon as i leave or he has to help other customers. clean break. no confusion, no hard feelings. so that kind of interaction is ideal for me.
Legitimately feel disgustingly low today, had paprika across my face for a solid hour.I feel like the resident fool of the village.I just... I can't do it today Anons legitimately thought of killing myself today.
>>35039930You're fucked in the head, but I know that feel because I used to cut too.
>>35040256I did recently too. God loves you, and has a plan for you. Think about your blessings.
>>35040281For many blessings I have many and count them all, however as of the moment I feel beneath, like my soul is half way to sheol.I look at myself, how I act, I am a nothing but a bother on people, nothing but a failure and a fool, my family ask me for interest on borrowed money I've never not repaid, my home may be swept out from under me and even so with my high income, even a shit shack is going for £1.1k with a £2k deposit, I can't afford a pot to piss.
>>35040265I don't feel fucked desu. I'm a normal ass person. I'm extremely normie passing in just about every way imaginable. I just cut sometimes and feel insane but only sometimes. I'm Gucci now. I will have dinner and cocoa. And go to work tomorrow. And no one will ever know I cut.
>>35037713theres no replacement for a woman
>>35037868It's closer to €3700 a month.But yeah. I'm basically gunning for £75k to consider myself a high earner. Guy above me earns £100k tbf and he's not even a supervisor
Want some BPD grippy box to make me momentarily happy.
I still like him 4 years later. Haven't seen him in 6 months. He was a friend of a friend and I think my tendency to avoid showing attraction at all cost thanks to insecurity should be categorized as a mental illness.
>>35040399well maybe there's a reason for it. either shoot your shot amd get over it or realize that they're too good for you, whatever. Don't let it linger
>>35040401can't. I was never friends with him (more of an acquaintance if even that) so I never had his number, and he's the type that has zero social media or ways of contacting him. technically I could ask some other acquaintances, but the fact is he was my ex's friend, so I would ruin my reputation forever being seen as that kind of girl. I'm more "high inhib" than anyone else I know, I know I don't have the capacity to ruin my reputation knowingly. Don't know what I'll do if this still doesn't go away with time but I'll think of somethin or just accept it.
it’s hopeless!
>>35040418LOL. Don't ask his friends or anything. If you are ex friends, it's probably for a reason. Just ignore ot and move on, unless you genuinely run into him organically. Don't cyberstalk him or anything. Just move on. The more you linger the more it lasts.
I hoped you would be there.
>>35040427oh shit sorry o can't read. friend of an ex..yeah sure go for it.
>>35040427>Don't ask his friends or anythingnever planned to, why do you think i still have a crush 4 years later. because i wanted to be a good person/respect myself, and not act on it. it's just that i seem to have stumbled upon the reality that if you don't act on it in any way. it just never goes away.
also yes the crush started when i was still with that ex. but he's a true man and i still respect him. i would hate myself and kms if i went for the friend because i wouldn't be able to see myself as a good or even decent person ever again. like remembering when the ex clearly tried to limit contact because i could see he was becoming aware of the crush. (to be clear i have never been with the friend guy alone, i was always invited to hang out with the 2 of them. but towards the end ex stopped inviting his friend to visit us completely and more or less ceased irl contact, presumably because he didn't want the friend to be around me anymore)
>>35040387Pursuits of the flesh leave you more rotten than before.
If it wasn't for the upcoming winter, my lack of life skills, my lack of property, and my lack of true desire for isolation, I would isolate myself in the woods for the next 6 months. There's something about it that calls to me. I'd rather have someone by my side, at least some of the time. Maybe a distant neighbor or two. Realistically though, I'm too much of a diva to be alone like that for that long. It would probably break me.
Getting ready to go home from work and sit on my ass after doing the bare minimum. Wish me luck
>>35040422actually, it's over.
>>35040446If two lay together, they are warm; but how can one be warm alone?It's true what you say but what I really want is companionship
While it's nice to be making friends, but the anxiety of "I'm going to say too much and they won't like me" is pretty gay. It's more out of duty that I'm even trying, so maybe that's it.
It's a little funny how in a friend group you can tell when you've got a certain pull on a girl or two, and what guys try to hide their butthurt over it
>>35039402>Is it better to have a failure of a dad barely allowed to raise them or no dad?It's actually better to have just one parent, it's the instability of going back and forth and having two environments and routines that fucks with kids.
Hoping for the bestJust hoping nothing happensA thousand clever linesUnread on clever napkinsI will never askIf you don't ever tell meI know you well enoughTo know you'll never love me
>>35040594nta but what if that one parent is not emotionally regulated?
>>35040797That's damaging in it's own way, but at least there's the sense of stability and predictability still, or more so than if they had to go back and forth between parents.
Maria, heres what I was told today for us. Hope it helps youI am the prisoned man of single melodyTwo voices carry farther than meI seek your help so that my song may become freeTwo voices carry farther than meAnd in the morning, sing me loveAnd in the afternoon, it's loveAnd in the evening, if they loveAnd in the morning, wake upAnd if we sing together, love will sing alongTwo voices carry farther than oneTogether we can bridge a chorus to the dawnTwo voices carry far, all the daysTime and mind they melt away,Like the stars and songs of yesterdayLike the melody you can't recall,But the harmonies you felt them, all the daysThis song of solitude has sung its melodyTwo voices carry farther than meI seek your help, so that song may become freeTwo voices carry farther than meAnd in the morning, sing me loveAnd in the afternoon, it's loveAnd in the evening, is there love?And in the morning, wake upTime and mind they melt away,Like the stars and songs of yesterdayLike the melody you can't recall,But the harmonies you felt them all the daysAnd if we sing together, love will sing alongTwo voices carry farther than oneTogether we can bridge a chorus to the dawnTwo voices carry farther than one, farther than one, carry onAnd in the morning, wake up
>>35040568Stop hanging out with simps.Every dude i use to be friends with are fighting over women I use to be with.
>>35036914Found a cool Barcade the other day but I recently moved here and don't have friends.Would it be weird going by myself on a Friday and trying to make friends that way?
Fucking shitty coworker, who's been at work three weeks so far, tried to call me out to the boss today. Complained I was handling all of our IT contracts wrong and merely reacting to problems and not spending time going out to clients and trying to upsell them on hours. Thankfully, the bossman told him that's not how things work in practice. Then, the new guy tried to sideways call out the boss to which he got told he needs to learn to work with coworkers and that the new guy (Who's been in a director position for 30 years at his previous jobs) isn't the final authority on things anymore.I can only hope he decides to quit in the next couple of months, he's already been complaining there's way too much work and that he should have a director title again. Fucker, you know what job you signed up for, you don't get to try and worm your way in to a higher title now.
i wish i could tell you that youve made me cry two times just today so you could comfort me but thats not right for me to do so instead i tell gioyc
>>35041046What'd they do to you? Why do you go to the person who makes you cry for comfort instead of somebody else?
>>35041079the phrasing makes it sound like they wronged me, they didnt, im just sensitive and get emotional easily, hence why i said it wouldn’t be right for me to go to them for comfort, they didnt do anything wrong or owe me anything
Lost 3 games in a row always at least 1 person trolling
I still think about her
Need belly rubs asap. I hate my body had to deliver my punishment right before Halloween would give me cravings anyway.
>>35041094If they're a friend and you need comforting, what's stopping you from reaching out? I understand if it's an ex, but otherwise that's what friends are for.
>>35041120nta but sometimes you know that bothering them might make them feel worse. it can be better to handle certain feelings by yourself if possible.
We spoke on the phone for 30 mins yesterday, 2 hours today. I’m starting to love her because I feel so connected with her. I just want to grab her face and hold her close and just “be” with her. I want to share silence and a bed and just caress her and make her feel good. She’s engaged, I have a long term gf, but I feel like she feels the same way. I’m just depressed.
>>35041120>I understand if it's an ex,that'd be the case, yea>>35041130i agree
>>35041130i agree with this although asking for reassurance in a mature and sensible way is never wrong
>I love youDon't insult me.
>>35041130>>35041151Suit yourself, but a couple months ago I got dumped and me calling a few friends to bitch and moan about it ended up reconnecting our friend group because we all started calling each other to complain about stupid shit. Depends on how well you know them of course, but good friends are there for you when you need them.
>>35041136so you're both cheating? disgusting
M, you are free to be with the man you want now. I'm letting you out of my mental cage. Go, and go be free and live a happy life. I know I loved you deeply, but it isn't love if you aren't happy with me. You deserve to be with someone better than some childish weirdo who sits and home and plays video games all day long.
>>35041240why don't you stop being a childish weirdo? even if it isn't for her, it'll do you much good
>>35041240You must be talking about molly. You have nothing to do with maria
>>35041271Im sure that Zach, a complete rando who doesn't know you, is speaking on Maria. Maria! Our moon!
>>35041273Zach has narced out about maria before but was unable to answer any thing about her so he was lying.
>>35041227No we haven’t done anything. Just a work crush that’s grown more than I thought it would.
>>35038529I slept on it and spent half a day in a quiet rage (at work, never against my gf) and yeah, the finished product doesn't look bad. Not as good as we had envisioned, but not bad. She's still on (silent) probation with this sort of stuff though, I'll be a little more hands-on next time
I was in a toxic friendship for 7 months (Feb-Sep). We met irl. I tried to change my entire personality for him. After a couple months he let on that he's racist and overall a chud. I didn't drop him because I felt really bad about leaving him "like everyone else" and we were already friends. Eventually he convinced me to say some slurs on vc. I hated it, I don't know why I did it, he kept pressuring me and telling me that it wasn't so bad.. and he later admitted he was recording and wouldn't delete the video. He kind of isolated me from my other friends, at first it was just jealousy because he "had no friends" (ah.. I wonder why..) and was upset that I was spending time away. He would text nonstop and would be really upset with me and literally tell me I'm an awful person if I was "dry" or didn't respond. Eventually we were calling for 10 hours on my days off. If I tried to have time alone he'd blow up and so I eventually stopped replying to my friends because I didn't have time to. He blocked me and threatened suicide so many times. I wanted out so badly but he kept telling me that it'd be my fault. He attempted 3 times when I tried saying how I wanted more time away. It scared and wore me down so much. I had never cut before and it's really stupid to but I really couldn't take it and felt very guilty for hurting him, and now I have these stupid styro scars. He attempted once again when I told him that I'm done with him. I called EMS on him and he got sectioned in a mental institute. He wrote me some unpleasant letters and emails and told me how I'm uberstench or something. Later he admitted that he was manipulating me on purpose. I'm glad I'm out, it interferred with work and I lost so much sleep and sanity, I fell out of contact with people because I couldn't talk to anyone else. I'm still really scared that he's going to find my other friends and tell them what I said. I haven't told anyone else about him, I always made excuses for why I was so distant to them
>>35041482Him being based is a good thing, but it sounds like he was more edgy rather than having any real conviction. It’s dreadful that he’d blackmail you and you did the right thing by way of trying your best to help. Please don’t burn yourself out, fren. He’s a man and he ought to act right.
I just want this to be over.Up or down, alive or dead, loved or hated.I don't care where it ends. Just make up your mind.
I thought I was getting better with this sickness. Mostly good, but now I have my gag reflex kick in when trying to swallow saliva, even water doesn't go down at the moment. I did drink some water though. So that's great. Hopefully after a good nights rest I won't have to deal with that symptom.
>>35041521I love you. Because of that, and given everything you've said and done lately, I'm giving you the space I think you want from me.
>>35041528The last thing I want is space.I've got enough space. I've got all the space a person could ever bear to have.I want a decision. Yes or no. Love or hate. Tell me to come here or to fuck off.I don't care which. But I can't bear any more stalling.
>>35041503Thank you anon. He said he has BPD and reading about it makes a lot of sense. I'm scared of telling anyone about him since I really regret saying those things.
>>35041537Not your fault, we often say and do embarrassing things for others. Love is compromise, and that term can mean good or bad. May Christ be with you. Hail our people hail victory. BDP is tough, I’ve only dealt with it in women and so the desire to protect them kicks in. You shouldn’t be protecting a grown man from his ineptitude that’s a mother’s job. It’s admirable that you did as much as you did. >>35041532I wish you happiness, friend, not reliance on someone who would abandon you.
>>35041547Aren't we all relying on ourselves? What happens when that faith fails?
Did the woman I love even exist
>>35041564Word.
>>35041564To some extent. Has she abandoned you? Would you abandon someone you love? Theres your answer. I commiserate with your pain.
>>35041564I was asking myself that shit for months earlier this year.
I've been doing the best I've ever been at life recently. I've never held a job for longer than two weeks. This job? 9 months when we hit the tenth. Not only that but I got promoted at an unprecedented rate. Most people move up here from where I started in about 1-2 years, I got a promotion last month. I wasn't actually going to get the job but the original pick turned it down and my boss literally advocated for me to take the position. I'm working on a massive goal right now, everything is going incredible. But lately I've noticed something. It feels like my brain is just... becoming mush, I guess? This new job is a lot more responsibility. It's nothing unmanageable once you know the ropes but more responsibility all the same. And the longer I do it, I start having these weird moments of total regression in maturity when work ends. Like I'll go home and want to be a kid or one time even considered just wetting the bed. I don't know why I'd even consider that. I'm doing well and during my performance review, my boss gave me two critiques that were so minor they were barely worth mentioning. The stress is 100x less than what my previous position was and my new coworkers are way nicer.I don't understand what's happening to me. Genuinely it feels like my brain just wants to revert to childhood and not in the "I miss the days when I was a carefree kid" we all get that and it's normal. It's an actual physical feeling like my brain is turning to mush and I start acting very weird. It's concerning and I don't know what to make of it.
>>35041537Nah you shouldn't feel bad about getting that off your chest. He preyed on you and abused you. Since you won't say it I'll say it on your behalf; I hope he kills himself.
I made a promise that I wouldn't be another orbiter. But I know exactly who her orbiter is. So whenever I miss her or want to reach out to her, I text him some bullshit with the hope that somehow i'll get back to her.
Keep seeing my name being posted on here, and my exes name also being posted here more recently, getting a bit wigged out desu.
>>35041571I think we all understand that the future is just awful, no matter which way we can imagine it.AI rendering you useless or snobby elites finding any way to put you into a permanent under-class.It's all dystopian, and it feels impossible to change.Why not try to go backwards? Where else makes sense to strive towards?I wouldn't blame yourself. That might feel right, but it's simply not the case. We were just un-lucky. Grin and bear it. Maybe things get better after this.
>>35041699So you’re Mike Maria or Colton?
>>35041712None of the above.
You live in an alternate reality, as evidenced by how you rewrite history to suit whatever you think will work on me in the moment. You think, "I did not do X!" and so you haven't, and any evidence of having done X, is something "manipulated to frame you."
>>35041777Perspective is reality, trips-anon.Delusion is far more powerful than anyone is willing to admit: perhaps this person is unwilling to realize their ignorance?If so, how far will your patience stretch?Is their companionship worth the pain?
Reading about the Narcissistic "reverse discard" has been enlightening on my situation.
>>35041789>Perspective is realityI agree. They do not - somehow theirs is the only one true objective reality. They're unwilling. My patience and tolerance for pain ran out.>>35041790Just keep it to yourself, or you'll suddenly find them claiming that you're the one doing such a tactic.
Any changes you make you resent me for and weaponize when you are confronted.
>>35041803Then you have to leave.It sounds like you've tried all you can.I can't condone condemning someone to their demons. But, you have to give up at some point.It's better to save yourself than get drug down with them. However selfish that might feel, it IS the lesser evil.
>>35041790Wat happen
>>35041826That make no cents
>>35041826I have left, after being pulled down to such madness. I didn't recognize myself, and I started to see it's impact on my charge. Tried to make it clear it's to survive and not just to harm them, but they've been crashing out over it since, making me out to be some sadistic user that orchestrated this "abandonment". It's killing any compassion or love I ever had for them, I think.
>>35041832It doesn't?The only people who can be helped are those who are willing to help themselves.As someone who has been at rock bottom, I was more than willing to drag everyone down to my level.Anything for just a bit of company.You can't let yourself get drug down to that level. You can't help anyone when you're down there with them.If you let that happen, you run the risk of getting caught in the same trap as them.Don't be a hero, anon.You're just a human. Leave that to the comic books.
>>35041777What happened
Out of the mind, then
>>35041839Typed by alcoholic hands
>>35041846Ha, if only. A drink would help process it all.
>>35041790I just learned big words from a youtube video for coping hypocrites desu stunning an brave such deep
>>35041839Pain does tend to blind empathy.I apologize for my poetic nature. I've been through something similar and that's how I cope.At this point, you have to consider how to forgive. What would they have to do to earn that forgiveness?Is it possible for you to forgive them?If not, then what is the closest thing to forgiveness you can give them?How could they earn that?It's always positive to look towards the future. Comparatively, it's usually negative to dwell on the past.
>>35041777Probably typed by the worst person u kno
>>35041845So deeeep desu brave and stunninghhhhnnggggg
>>35041847Thats how you process everything else in your life tho desu
>>35041853Nothing brave or deep about it, I love an unattainable woman
Narcs always start coming out of the woodwork when you mention anything about the abusive parasitic shit they pull. The Jews of personality disorders kek.
>>35041858Well how uncalled for i never
Drink up, schizo! Everything is narcissist if you're full of your own shit! Let the cope consoom u
Abusers always pretend to be woke victims huh
>>35041857Oh damn nigga im talkin shyt to the wrong nigga god bless u
>>35041482Blackmail and demeanor is immature Comms is a balance and is easy to work out.
>>35041849>how to forgiveForgiveness is for myself. I am working at forgiving myself for having stayed far longer than was healthy for me, and for what I care for.>What would they have to do? Forgiveness you could give them? How could they earn that?What are you implying my forgiveness to be or to look like, going back to them?
>>35041564Mine does and i wont give up on my Maria>"I love you, remember that.">"I love you too. That makes me feel at ease">"You're the only thing that matters now, it's been like that for so long. Nothing will ever change that.">"I'm only yours, I love only you">"I'll always love you and care about you, no matter what. You mean so much. You complete me, I complete you.">"You're the only home I have free of judgment and anything that will upset me, I'm crying because I need you, this argument is temporary, but I'll always have that empty part needing you. I'm your home too. You are perfect. I love you more">"I know I feel both with you and I can dwell in both love and lust, we will fuck each other's brains out and then care for each other, Spend so much time.">"Everything is perfect with you, dream good dreams, I can't wait.">"You're the love of my life, everything I've ever wanted, everything I've ever needed ."
>case in point
I made a promise to her and im keeping it. I have faith she keeps hers to me. >I won't lose you * I know that, I won't allow it>You're the best, perfect for me>I'm so lucky>That's good to hear love you,>Lots>You make things better>Even when you aren't here, you do so much>I love you more>I promise it will be * and * on the beach someday>You have to wait for meI love you with all my heart and I will wait as long as you needI trust and have faith in her to be loyal and keep her promises to me.Some how, someway she comes home to me>I can take a road that will see me through>I can take a road that takes me to my star now.>A estrada do sol>O comeco de tudo>E as nuvens que agora se afastam>Mostrando um caminho que esta sempre la>E que e qualquer lado que a gente quiser caminhar
I wish I could reach out to you, even after a year apart I still miss you deeply. We loved each other once, I don't see why we can't give that love another try.
>>35041897What’s stopping you?
>>35041902Blocked on social media, not sure if my number is blocked and don't have the heart to try calling just to definitely find out that it is. The whole time I've had the urge to write her a letter but who knows how that would be received.
>>35041905I know the feeling. I hope it goes better for you than I
Most people lack curiosity of their peers. It's the foundation of relation, of understanding one another, of empathizing, to want to understand another, and you do that by asking questions about themselves, how they felt, how they came about a thought or thing. Perspective, experience, feeling. Valuing these in others without needing to interject or cover with your own is love.
>>35041910I keep hoping I'll see her in public but she was always a bit of a recluse to begin with. I could try and force the encounter by going to the bar we used to frequent but her family would be there and I don't want to cause a scene.
>>35041905Just write the letter. It feels less intrusive than a text or call. She doesn't have to open it, it gives her the choice. Unobtrusive.
>>35041868I could bear to have a little more patience and mercy for myself.I can't argue your first point, not in the slightest.I don't know your particular circumstances, so I can't answer specifics.Maybe forgiveness just looks like letting go of any hate you have towards them. Or maybe you can come back to this relationship with enough time and commitment.My overall point is to keep your empathy alive. It's better to live with it than without it, however painful that might be.
>>35041916Just not sure exactly what to write. Don't want to come off as an obsessed crazy person (even though her absence haunts me). I guess she'd at least be happy to know I've quit drinking.
>>35041918I don't hate them, despite their insistence that I do, and there's no going back to the relationship - not just because of what was done, but their viciousness when I stated what I needed were we to continue the relationship, and again when I told them I was done because of that response.I can't empathize with who they are anymore. Nearly every single line from them is self-pity tied to insulting me. The one I loved was a mask.
>>35041914why would her family be at a bar with her?
>>35041930>The one I loved was a mask.That's awful, anon.I really don't have anything else to say beyond that.Beyond my bleeding-heart diatribe, I know that some people are just monsters.Sometimes, they are beyond saving.I hope you're luckier in your future relationships.
>>35041939Thank you, truly.
Im not concerned. Our communication and reciprocation balances, calms, and settles once we are together again. Until then I swim here. Im in the fight
>>35041222I just often feel intense shame over my actions, which leads to a spiral where i just shut myself away. i have a few people i'd like to contact, but i'm too stuck on how it would be received. i have been too darkened emotionally to be able to do this in a productive way. ugh
>>35041936I mean it's a dive bar type place that serves food. It was their weekly spot before I met her. Her parents really did like me, makes the break up even worse.
>>35041973why did you break up?
>>35042002We both started heavily drinking the last couple months together to cope with general life stress and allegedly one night when I blacked out I was feeling her up when she had a friend over. I had no memory of that night whatsoever. I understand that she would be mad about that to an extent, but I'm pretty sure said friend and possibly another got it in her head that I was a rapist for doing that. It started off as her needing some space and she pretty quickly made it obvious she missed me but still wasn't ready to see me. Then suddenly she stops responding to me and next thing I know she's angry and accusatory. Eventually she crashed out on me and blocked me completely.
>>35042019if you have no memory, why do you not trust theirs? i understand being worried about being falsely accused, but if they are your friends, why the fear?
>>35042041It's not that I don't trust her but at the same time that's not something I see myself doing, or at least not being so persistent to that extent. Then again I've been told a couple times that when I've blacked out I'd do things I'd never do. But I never told her I doubted her and told her I take responsibility for my actions. I know I'm not owed forgiveness but that doesn't mean I don't want it. I still remember all the plans we had made together, I still hope some day we can make good on them.
>>35042055are you mike? maria! my moon!
>>35042056Sorry, wrong person
it sounds like her parents are trying to protect her from people like you.
>>35042061Nice reading comprehension but they're not involved
oh i'm making a general statement.
I understand now that there is a specific type of woman I am looking for: someone who is deeply intuitive, nurturing, with genuine and heartfelt knowledge of the human soul. More of a motherly archetype, perhaps? I feel like I am competing with my girlfriend while having even simple discussions and making offhand observations that barely seem to land. Because of this it is difficult to engage in mutually enriching dialogue, and I often struggle to feel connected with her. I do not want to be in constant conflict with her masculinity. I just want to melt into the all-encompassing embrace of a woman who truly knows what it means to provide comfort and warmth.
>>35042102how is your relationship with your real mom?
>>35042105It's very good and I am grateful for her.
I don't know how much more I can make this hurt.Do I have to type this with cuffs on my wrists and frostbite dogging my fingers?How much pain can I bring upon myself before I can inure legitimacy? All I've ever wanted is someone to embrace me and tell me I'm not a monster. That I don't deserve this. That the world is more cruel than me.Is that too great a prize? Am I selfish to beg this mercy?Please. I don't care for paradise.All living things must die. Just make my death peaceful.Please! Can I forsake a grand life if it means a peaceful death?That's a fair trade, right? Just don't hurt me.
>>35042113huh? don't die? why would your fingers be frostbitten? it's only october
Nothing really makes me happy anymore. I pursued my dreams and goals to afford theirs and they left me thinking I chose my own path.
>>35042113why would you be a monster?
>>35042117I don't want to bear this any longer. Just finish me off.Please.There's enough mercy in you to skip to the end, right?We both know I'm a lost cause. I could suffer until survival is impossible. But that's just time wasted. On my end and your's.Don't make my best trait be my downfall.Don't make me my own worst enemy. I don't want to hate myself that much. I'm not that evil.>>35042126You are what others perceive you to be.If you consider yourself anything else, isn't that just so much delusion?If others hate you, you must be something worthy of hate.If others fear you, you must be something worthy of fear.A monster is the only thing I can think of worthy of fear and hate.Maybe you are more creative than me.Can you think of a thing that is worthy of both hate and fear that is NOT a monster?I promise, I am willing to be whatever that is.
>>35042137I don't know you, but i doubt you've done much to warrant fear or hatred.
>>35042142I don't know.I really don't. I can't tell what's apathy and what's dehumanization.;That's why I'd rather just be dead. I can't tell the difference, so just make it to where I simply can't.
I think I understand the depersonalization. It hurts, doesn't it? I don't like it either. I keep myself away from others because of it, despite them possibly going through the same thing.
>>35042056You need to calm your tits bud. Not every post is me, but there is some being made to push a narrative. Our truth is better>I want it to happen so bad>you make me feel things ive never felt before>my legs are still shakingI cant wait to make use of your hands >I cant wait to give them a purpose>thank you for allowing me to c*m>all for you ****, ill be your good girl every day>anything to please you>i owe you everything. I worship you, only you>youre all i think of. Youre the air i breathe>I can only imagine what your skin against mine is like
>>35042126check earlier in the thread, he abuses his wife and child
>>35042142>>35038439
True Love is not transactional. Its given freely to the other without expectation of a pay off. You do the action purely because you care
https://x.com/videoreacts/status/1835319406164938917/video/1?s=46how life feels lately
i hate zoomettes so much its unreal
It'll be a good week, right? I'll finally get a break from your obvious ploys for control and punishment and guilt trips? It sucks they didn't even have the decency or subtlety to bring me my things, when half of them are on containers already, and I was clear about what could just be transported in bags. As if I'd just give up and go back without radical change. (As of I could trust that anything even would change.)
Lol. Holding my belongings hostage, knowing I'll never be able to recover or replace them. I should have taken the offer of the police escort and storage locker from the shelter.
The trains in Spain are mostly on the plains.
well, i can't eat solid foods. the saliva makes it where I want to gag it after chewing it. I drank some water and some protein drink. so far nothing has changed. going to try to take an advil after it's liquefied in water. this is the only symptom left outside the coughing once in a while and burping after swallowing water, so hopefully it will be over soon
autism + depression + fragile narcissism is a miserable combination
>>35042113Same bro. My heart races, I imagined hearing her giggle and play this morning. I wake up early regardless of how late I stay up for my night shifts. I would not be hurting if I were the psychopath they describe me as. Legitimately gonna talk to my counsellor about whether or not I’m a narcissist, Kek, everyone else I’ve asked has said no unequivocally. But then what? “Here a professional said you’re wrong about diagnosing me” as though that would stop it. Maybe it would make me hurt less, I guess. The way they describe me is so cruel.
I need love to go on.
>>35042696let's love ourselves first.
Heartbreak heartbreak The wilful destruction of someone who loves you. Haha. Ha. Fool.
>>35042583Let’s go up on the roof. It’s a nice day.
>>35042695>Legitimately gonna talk to my counsellor about whether or not I’m a narcissist, Kek, Most counselors aren't sufficiently trained or experienced in recognizing abusives/narcissistics because these types generally see themselves as the victim and are unable to look at their own behavior let alone name it, outside of their justifications for it.>everyone else I’ve asked has said no unequivocally.Same as above, and abusives/narcissistics usually only target one person at a time, while carefully maintaining a respectable image with the rest of those around them.> “Here a professional said you’re wrong about diagnosing me”Red flag in you're thinking - you're going to therapy just to prove someone wrong, not because you're genuinely concerned that someone's accusations about your behavior holds any validity.Have you considered going to a counseling program specifically for abusives/narcissistics, or having the accuser sit in with you to give their side of the story?
>>35042712The biggest lie this world has yet spawned is creatio ex nihilo. You could not sound more crude to my ears than you reiterating hells bible verse.
>>35042726Nigger I’ve never been called one before in any romantic or platonic relationship, they’ve called others that and now me. I’m not going to seek a specific counsellor and accept the label as gospel because it’s been uttered at me. I’ve been seeing the counsellor for quite some time now, and I’ve been very honest about my failings. It’s nice to hear that people I’ve known for a long and short time don’t think I’m some psychopath, and for my own well-being it’ll be nice to hear it from a medical professional. That said if they do say I am one I’ll be blown away and not really know what to do desu, I suppose apologize and put a bullet in my head for being a genetic fuck up, Kek.
>>35042733It sounds like you're unwilling to take genuine look at your behaviors and continue to avoid anything that challenges your self-image, which is a key narcissistic trait.>they’ve called others thatHow many others? Yellow flag on their part, but people who have previously been involved with narcissistic people often end up again with such types due to unconscious familiarity, and the lack of self-esteem and boundaries from the previous abuse makes them more susceptible to future same-situations.You don't have to kill yourself, just take an honest look at your own behavior and work to change it.
>>35042541>>35042561You have the 2 kids and the baby, correct? I want to make sure you have a safe place.
>>35042742>spoke openly about my failings >called them such Incongruent with your thinking desu, I’ve failed in many regards. I don’t have a self image of perfection, I don’t like being called something I’m not. And yes, if you exist to leech off of and harm others you deserve a bullet. I felt like I was going insane trying to fit my behaviour into that diagnosis to make sense of things, but have been reassured by others that I’m not that. In any event I will bring it up and confirm with the psych about it.
>autism + depression + fragile narcissism is a miserable combinationIf >>35038439 is you, no one will ever feel sorry for you. There is no excuse or reason you can ever say because there is nothing to understand, nothing to work out. You are rot and as such rot.
I need a drink after this week, man.
>>35042695Empty words, masking, lies, larps, gaslighting , guilttripping. You are rot. There is no doing better, no forgiveness or recovery. There is no continuing. ___________Never forget what he did and never listen to him ever again. >Yes yes, telling me you hate me, enjoy when I cry, want to hurt me, cornering me and flexing when I tell you you're scaring me, following me from room to room telling me how I'm not a woman, how I must have done something to deserve being choked, writing about how I deserved to be raped and it was all I was good for, how you wanted to strangle me, kill me, calling me a demon, forcing your cock in my mouth despite me saying no repeatedly, following me around the house with accusations of wanting to cheat, of wanting other men more, of being more attracted to other men because after tearing my genitals in 3 places and 2hrs of broken sleep a night for months after birthing our child I couldn't handle a lot of sex and certainly not as rough and hurtful as you wanted, hitting an infant so hard they're stunned into silence, screaming at them fucking retard, yelling in their face to shut up for crying when you're pushing their head or arm into the changing table, right, no, nine of that is abuse, right?
>>35042749Incongruent how? Narcissistics in un-specialized therapy frequently express humility and faults about specific things that are "safe," or play at remorse, fooling most counselors. The self-image is not one of perfection, but entitlement and justification, and of a "good person" with faults. They generally go on to continue the harmful behavior with therapy as justification and defense.Look man, I'm just trying to help. You've been flooding the thread for weeks now with this stuff, and anytime anon points out something you don't like you get aggressive and defensive.
>>35042742Stop playing along with his performance. Hes just doing a dance to gain her sympathy and try to make her pity him by making up excuses, offloading accountability to disability , perform the " im so misunderstood and have feelings and not a bad person" says the wife beater, infant abuser, rapist, manipulative liar, narc and so much more. Nah. You can write a fuckin blog post but it will always be a fiction. A masking performance and in between that there are the larps with fake narratives, same fagging advice and gangstalking to attempt to manipulate perception, gaslighting and guilt tripping. Its over.
>>35042773People can change, if they're willing to look inward and care about others enough to challenge their way of being and self perception.
>>35042808No. Not the person who did this. That person has always been rot and always will be rot. Best to block and ghost. >Yes yes, telling me you hate me, enjoy when I cry, want to hurt me, cornering me and flexing when I tell you you're scaring me, following me from room to room telling me how I'm not a woman, how I must have done something to deserve being choked, writing about how I deserved to be raped and it was all I was good for, how you wanted to strangle me, kill me, calling me a demon, forcing your cock in my mouth despite me saying no repeatedly, following me around the house with accusations of wanting to cheat, of wanting other men more, of being more attracted to other men because after tearing my genitals in 3 places and 2hrs of broken sleep a night for months after birthing our child I couldn't handle a lot of sex and certainly not as rough and hurtful as you wanted, hitting an infant so hard they're stunned into silence, screaming at them fucking retard, yelling in their face to shut up for crying when you're pushing their head or arm into the changing table, right, no, nine of that is abuse, right?
>>35042754You have not yet even made a new thread.
>>35042822Yes, that degree of abuse seems insurmountable. Best one can hope is he leaves her alone and she gets the help she needs to recover.
>>35042846Thank you for understanding what is actually going on and how conversing with that narc is just a ploy to get an in to harm her further.
feel like all of my problems would be fixed if i didnt work with so many vapid retards
haven't heard from you in so long, really is unusual for you. you used to talk to me more frequently. hope you are doing well.
Please
>>35042945I can't.
>>35042923I hope you're well too but I don't think you want to hear from me.
Intentionally done or not, getting woken up by the robot vacuum doesn't justify waking up the 3 toddlers at 430 with lights turned on and giving hugs like this is normal behavior.I get you were mad at me, but why are you affecting their sleep? Why punish them for something I did? Is it the harm/annoyance to me outweigh the harm done to them? This is just like the carseat in the front again. It was because we were fighting and you didnt want to sit next to me for 3 hours.You're now in a pattern of putting your own hurt feelings ahead of the basic needs of kids. And it really didnt affect us that much, we probably wouldve woken up an hour later.It just lit up the neon sign on your forehead showing your mental illness.
>>35042754
I want care. I want comfort. I want love. I need nothing.
>>35043036If he did that, it's a performance. It has nothing to do with them. He ruined their sleep to show off in front of you like he cares.
>>35043036My man also does that when he's really mad. Because he knows that I care about the kids. Him breaking anything else wouldn't get me to bat an eyelash so the only thing he can hurt is the kids.
I wanted nothing more than to give you that, and to be cared for in return. It hurts. I’ll be patient, take the coldness, the evil interpretations of any expression of pain on my part because you’re hurting. That’s what love is, isn’t it? Loyal until death. Until it’s well and truly over. Stab me.
>>35043072>>35043088Yeah I think you're both right. I own that I was the one who pissed him off for my stupid pregnant brain not thinking it through. Also being so tired that I didnt get up to turn it off. But I did get up right away to help my son (he has a diaper rash right now, and sure enough he had pooped)So on top of this he probably feels jealous/resentful towards me for taking care of a 1 year old before him? Sorry but I've done all the night wakeups for 4 years ....I really thought the vacuum would just run out of water and go back to the base but it tried to eat the dog's blanket and he loves the dog more than the rest of us...so maybe also mad for scaring the dog?The layers of his seething anger in incomprehensible.
>>35043088And then when you leave he suddenly plays father if the year in front of anyone who may be watching and accusing you of trying to take them from him.
>>35043096It's incomprehensible because it is incredibly disordered and abnormal thinking and behavior on his part. Stop trying to find reason in the unreasonable, in the abuse.
If only you were capable of love.
>>35043093If you are that guy then you are acting like you are somehow a victim when all the actual things you did are evil and showed you do not love, never have. You are anything but patient with the posts you've been making If you did what she posted below then I hope she finds safety and actual love from a man who cares for her. >Yes yes, telling me you hate me, enjoy when I cry, want to hurt me, cornering me and flexing when I tell you you're scaring me, following me from room to room telling me how I'm not a woman, how I must have done something to deserve being choked, writing about how I deserved to be raped and it was all I was good for, how you wanted to strangle me, kill me, calling me a demon, forcing your cock in my mouth despite me saying no repeatedly, following me around the house with accusations of wanting to cheat, of wanting other men more, of being more attracted to other men because after tearing my genitals in 3 places and 2hrs of broken sleep a night for months after birthing our child I couldn't handle a lot of sex and certainly not as rough and hurtful as you wanted, hitting an infant so hard they're stunned into silence, screaming at them fucking retard, yelling in their face to shut up for crying when you're pushing their head or arm into the changing table, right, no, nine of that is abuse, right?Is what actually happened. The rest of what you said if is just words.
>>35043097Toxic narc manipulative performance to make up a narrative to paint you at fault. The worst is what he is actually trying to do is turn them against you so they are on his side and they are mislead to try to convince you to stay with him.
>>35043097Yeah I think he's already trying to do that/make me look bad to inflate his ego>>35043100I think the worst part is my family dog died yesterday :/ he did seem sympathetic when I told him (again, he loves dogs) but then this morning happened. I think my brain doesnt want to accept that I'm a victim of abuse, like it doesnt allow me to be that because Im supposed to be the strong woman who survived a bpd mom, raped by her boyfriend, got myself (with help) off of a 3 yr heroin habit, graduated with my bachelor's, had 3 kids naturally....then the other part I cant wrap my head around is how much he hates me to the core - but cant admit it. Will claim he loves me so much but puts me down with names and "jokes" at my expense.
>>35043088Doesn't sound like a man to me. More like a manipulative loser. I don't have any respect for manipulative people like that.
>>35043096You've done all the night wake ups for 4 years? In addition to all that physical abuse he did to you and then how he hurt the infant. Wow. He doesn't give a shit about either of you.
I feel something is deeply wrong with me. I can't envision a future where I don't kill myself in the next 5 or so years. My life is fine, the only thing wrong with it is being me. I absolutely cannot function as a regular human.
>>35043108That's the thing though, when you grow up in an abusive home, that's your psyche's "blueprint" for love, even if it's not love at all. It's shaped what you'll tolerate, even though your rational mind knows it's abuse. He's not going to magically change, and your children are - like you did - silently absorbing that abuse = love.Can you go to a women's domestic violence shelter?I'm really sorry about your pup passing. That grief never passes.
>>35043108He acted sympathetic to try to gain your favor and it's easy to fake to try to make you think he's capable of not just faking emotions (by faking his emotions action sympathetic)Bpd mom and raped by the boyfriend means you were a victim of abuse before the narc husband. The thing is he doesn't love you and he hates you because you aren't being a "yes man". He feels he has to fake who he is ( because is is a horrible person you rightfully want nothing to do with now that you know he was faking) and he blames you for not taking your emotions to give him what he wants. He is prob that anon who keeps trying to convince others that transactional love is real love and then freaks out and calls selfless honest true love "Disney love". I feel bad for you that you don't have actual love in your life and that your life has been so difficult.
>>35043120That's literally what any critical thinking/pattern recognizing person can see. Yet when I tried to leave/divorce he made a convincing show. We started therapy, and it's been about 5 or 6 months. I thought everything was going okay until I called him out for not showing any excitement about a marriage vow renewal (planned in a couple years)I get that it's pretty far away but being totally ambivalent or even annoyed when it's talked about feels like he hates me/doesnt care at all. Then he started yelling at me saying he "tried to ignore me but just kept talking" like it was my fault for berating him/lecturing him but he's still a grown man with the emotional control of a teenager
>>35043156How old are you?
>>3504316634, he's 38
>>35043156You're getting too reactive, he's destroying you. You're letting him covertly push you into situations where he can paint you as the abuser, the unstable one.
i think existential loneliness will follow me forever, i have to accept it
>>35043173Got it. You are a year younger than me. To be honest it pisses me off seeing what he did to you and the kids and then attempting to manipulate you here. Please remember to drink some water and get some food down. I know I stopped eating and drinking when my pet passed because I felt underwater with grief. I don't think a shelter is the wisest move. You would really need to look at the risks involved. Taking my children with you there will start a welfare process where you will be judged on care for them, which depending on the state has different levels of requirements such as income. If you have no income then and that's a requirement then that would not be a good move . Once you divorce him then you will get child support for all 3 and that won't be an issue. You said your mom is bdp. Idk what that housing looks like but when if your able to move be back there and you won't need to pay rent because you are home, then there are food programs and you can even get the lawyer for the divorce probono. Your want to get to your county center. They take walk ins typically. Youll want to get what's called a benefits analysis and that will tell you your eligibility for programs and apply and apply you for them. Depends on your state but if you have ark , they also do a benefits analysis. I go in to those meetings quite a bit with clients for work and the process is not difficult
>>35043208Ignore the typo >Taking my children. Gboard updated and the auto correct is ass
Having ADHD makes you more harmful to society than BPD and NPD combined
>>35043215I'm sorry :/ I'm trying to get my meds adjusted again
I can't believe I saw them and walked away
How can someone talk so much for so long about absolutely nothing? No, this isn't a conversation.
>>35043211Im not the same person that's been posting about the physical/sexual abuse, my husband just does emotional/verbal/and I guess psychological now with the 430am wake up. I dont think he goes on /adv but he goes on 4chan so who knows.Are you Mike?
I dont want to be a single divorced mom, but I also dont want to live in such volatility. I know it's selfish and cowardly but after meeting with the lawyers and shit it's really no benefit to me getting my "freedom" from this man who would likely turn to drinking/drugs, lose his job, go awol and I'd be supporting myself and 4 kids. I know it doesnt get better from here, it doesnt change, it just gets worseBut at least he's 6 ft and 6 fig income and he doesnt beat me. He's just foul mouthed and doesnt know how to/wont give me an orgasm. It's sad but not as bad as others
>>35043362Just cheat on him
>>35043362>really no benefit to meAnd what of your children? Is it really of no benefit to be away from an abusive parent?
>>35043400Fuck them kids
>>35043400According to my lawyers even with the documented abuse our state grants 50/50 custody to dad's and since the kids are young he would get alternative weekends visitation but it likely wouldnt be supervised unless I shelled out thousands in lawyer fees.
>>35043317Yup>>35043400You are corrext. Your situation does not sound as bad but keep in mind that by him being unable to sexually satisfy you thats over time this leads to hostility between parents or cheating which leads to developmental issues for the kids because they dont grow up with 2 parents who truly love and lust each other. You'll also need to seriously consider if you feel hes a good father figure to them. Thats really important.
>>35043421That's when you get them a new stepdad. He'd probably cover those fees and help sort this out legally
>>35043445See, now that's an idea.
>>35043421Record the abuse on video with a hidden camera so it gets captured. Present that to the judge. Theres no way a judge will look at the abuse and not grant you either full custody or requiring him to need supervised custody
Post-separation abuse, cool
>>35043431It's so sad because I'm so physically attracted to him, attracted to his smarts/humor, I'm just not able to really trust his intentions are pure after the things he's said. I think in terms of parenting his discipline is a bit much for their ages/development level but he's providing another half of a 2 parent household which i believe is important for their development. Kids need their dad's, even if their assholes
Happy Domestic Violence awareness month I guess.
>>35043524>Kids need their dad's, even if their assholesThis is the biggest crock of shit that abusive men and their enablers peddle.
>>35043535Well that's not what the state i live in thinks. I'm definitely going to do another lawyer consult and see what's up but so far 2 have said the same thing.I think he's mentally ill and needs help. I dont like him using the kids as ways to hurt me. But I think it's a lot easier to be like "leave, just go" when youre an outsider looking in
>>35043535It's sad to see this shit happen in real time. Poor kids
>>35043550>it's a lot easier to be like "leave, just go" when youre an outsider looking inDuh. So? You still have to do it
Helplessly attracted to women of my ethnicity even though I've had nothing but terrible experiences with them. I kind of don't have a choice and I'm sure I'll eventually find a normal one but I don't know why westoids go out of their way to pursue our women
>>35043642I've only had good experiences with mine but I am asexual
>>35043102That is phrasing sounds so lofty. Like a philosopher or a priest judging their followers. But you probably don’t even have good intentions.
>>35043524>Kids need their dad's, even if their assholeswish my parents didn't think like this and fuck up my whole life lol
Apparently I miss you more than I thought I did, but it's not like you don't know that already.BLEH, BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEH BLEEHHHHHHH
>>35043715why don't you tell them that anon?
I am glad you dropped me otherwise I would have been stuck in another country with a family who hates me, paying for a house that I wouldn't have ownership in name.
>>35043524>Kids need their dad's, even if their assholesNo. Further from him the better. That way they don't end up like him in any way. Preferably he falls of a cliff or into a giant garbage disposal.
The more I try to run away from our past, the more I seem to get hurtI truly wish I would have never met youYou brought so much pain in my lifeAnd it was not worth the good momentsOr maybe its not you but meIm broken like that
>>35043955Same except now I realize it was 200% their fault. They were abusive as hell and I didn't even realize until it was long over. I spent so much time feeling guilt and making excuses on their behalf and they took advantage of that
I hate when people wish they never met someone, you don't know how worse or better your life could have been without that interaction and it is lack of accountability to put it on someone else.
I wish I never met them.
You lead me on, told me you loved me, met someone else a week after I thought we were together, and had a mutual friend break it to me and told me it's because you didn't want to lose me as your best friend. In spite of this I can't bring myself to hate you.
You gave me your number and proceeded to rip my heart out over the course of a year. But I learned a lot from you and I'm still glad we met.
I can’t believe it’s been ten years since I met the fren who changed my life.
im socially retarded and laughed at a race joke in front of black people. i cant control my laughter no matter how hard i try
>>35044018Yeah it's hard because I wish I never met them for the pain they wrought, but can't really regret it because I have the sweet baby I always knew in my heart partly because of themLike maybe it's rather I wish I left before disclosing their existence or that it was with someone else
I need to jerk off really badly, but my penis is still fucked up.
I wish men were the good people and protectors they presented themselves as lol
I want a strong sweet empathetic man in my bed
>I chose poorly and wound up with a walking red flag in an ocean of honest, great guys>Why are all men horrible? ;_;
His dick can be small as long as he can eat me well and be sweet and hold me when things are bad and see me as a person, his other half
>>35044162No you're absolutely right I did pick wrong but also where's this fucking ocean?
>>35044168Not on apps, I can guarantee you that.
>>35044175I didn't look on apps I looked on 4chins which is probably worse kek
I actually don't even give. Shit anymore just want someone to actually fucking live me instead of control control control and use me as some sort of checked box fleshlight
Where's the nigga with empathy and care and self reflection that understands emotional safety and shit where's the "in sickness and in health" niggas where's the "I hear you and value you and your perspective" niggas where's the "in not gonna tell you you deserved to be raped and treated like this and I'm not gonna launch a smear campaign cause you didn't get me off enough and how dare you struggled with hard shit and I'm gonna be patient and loving through the hardest time of your life and stull ve patient and gentle and caring I stead of destructively insulting" ass niggas
Awwww it doesn't matter who caaaares there's either somebody out there or there isn't It doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter if doesn't. Matter it doesn't matter it doesn't matter it doesn't natterRotten rotten rotten right your re venom
>>35044193>>35044202>>35044220Chill out and take a break from dating and maybe make a breakup playlist, and then get back out there and use what you learned to find someone better. Also never let scummy exes back in, even if it feels like you don't deserve any better and they pretend they're sorry it's never worth the pain.
I'll be free soon or I won't it does not matter aha worst case I can hang myself if really doesn't fuckingmatter best case life will be peace in a shitty city and I'll have to fight for get out ur but I bet I'll feel better bout myself when I doooo
>>35044235Aww thanks ankn I've. No intention of dating but it's nice eit imagine being loved and safe and comforted more a fantasy than anything I wish you love and joyyyy
>>35044184Hey
>>35043866Yeah it's hard for me to wish ill on other people, especially the father of my kids. But then again I struggle with hurting spiders and such. Couldn't even kill the black widow the other day, just sort of booped her back outside with a stick.He came home on time, but stayed in the shed outside for a couple hours. I apologized for the robot waking him up, telling him it wasn't done on purpose. He listed all of his grievances against me from yesterday (using all the hot water - did the dishes, didnt say good night, "started a fight" during couples therapy) he said I failed to bring solutions to the apology and he isnt sure he wants to negotiate because he's so hurt.My fucking precious first little baby doggo died yesterday and I'm 3 hours away playing house with his guy who hates me. Yes I was selfishly thinking about myself cleaning because it's a maladaptive coping skill I've used to distract myself. I didnt do that shit on purpose because I'm not thinking 10 steps ahead, not thinking about his thoughts and feelings because I've got 3 littles plus another baby gestating inside of my body right now.This feels so petty and stupid and some major 1st world problem shit right now. If I was reading this right now I would laugh at how fucking dumb I sound right now.He didnt apologize for maliciously waking us up, why would he? I've hurt him so deeply and in his eyes am the devil incarnate.
>>35044251>hurt him so deeply and in his eyes am the devil incarnate.Reeeeaaallll and all for pointing out the fucked up harm he's caused and the hate and attacks he continues to spew at me
>>35044250Hey hi
>I hate you I hate you I hate you>I want to kill you rape you strangle you>It's just ventingDaaammmn totally
You said my outstretch wings and free flight and warned that shit in a caaaage ab exotic FUCKING pet
>>35044251>I've hurt him so deeply and in his eyes am the devil incarnate.He's just throwing a tantrum because if he make a big stink then he hope he can makeyou think it's your fault and have to apologize to him. He won't mention anything unless it's used against you. He doesnt genuinely care about any part of you. My heart goes out to you with your dog. I hope you get the opportunity to go to your folks and spend time with him where he is buried.
>>35044257I think it's stupid how his biggest complaints are me not putting him at the center of my universe. Like youre almost 40, I'm not your mama and if anything you've been more detrimental to my growth/self-esteem than anything else. Moreover, the vindictive nature coupled with the excessive marijuana usage and gun ownership makes the statistical possibility of a family annihilator situation at a greater than 0. Probably a 0.01% but could be more. Never got an actual read into his heart because I got knocked up by a literal stranger (knew eachother for 2 months prior to conception) I think it's 100% my fault for continuing this madness but at the time I really thought it would get better - work through/grow together. I believed in the nuclear family/trad wife - looked at all the women in the exact same or worse dynamics who are doing okay - get to be a grandma and grandpa together. I looked to my own mom, divorced- remarried twice - total trainwreck and I didnt want that. I still dont but as above, there is a >nil chance something could snap in him and he's the next news story.Now is that being paranoid or just pattern recognizing?
>>35036914My life the past three months since I moved in with my mother after my father's death in February have been some of the worst of my life.My sister betrayed me. My mother is hysterical with menopause, I'm not allowed to cook, clean or do my laundry. My half brother, who isn't related to my father or lived with him like I did, has become an aggressive thug.I have been nothing but good, helpful and self sacrificing, even going to my abusive father's funeral when I initially didn't want to go, and after I move in with them, THEY ALL TREAT ME LIKE SHIT. Before three months ago, my mother was my favorite human being in the world. Now, not so much. My life feels surreal, like a nightmare I'm supposed to wake up from. Please. God or whoever. Let me go back. Let me fix all my mistakes so I would be in a better place when my bastard father dies.
M, I'll post what God told me today about ustomorrow. This reads almost over.
Yeah like it's fucked that you "apologize" but only for vague shit like "sorry I hurt you" and are unable to actually name the fucking behavior that was hurtful you're never going to not fucking hurt me because you don't have any emotional or relational capacity
>>35044157I tried to be that for someone and she led me on for months only to hurt me in ways I didn't know was possible. So now I don't want to be in a relationship with anyone.
>>35044325>TriedDid u now
>>35044328I don't know how to be anything else. We never got into fights, always talked her through issues going on, didn't pressure her into anything she didn't want to do. Ended up getting manipulated and a half assed apology when a mutual friend called her out on it.
Is there any significance to moths being attracted to you? Landing on you, following you etc
Enjoy your massively fragile insecurity-pit ego and over-inflated sense of superiority and entitlement
Ruined by and ugly face and uglier personaluty lol
I live with many regrets
>>35044346You're the light of their world (:
>>35044346Moon blessed, high In light and spiritual matter.
Lol hmu if you ever decide to change things and take accountability I guess
>>35044365Perslutnality- if you will
You wooooont
>>35044389It's all in the eyes, you can see the lack
I know that this was likely a test and I failed. I am too anxious about whether or not people will like ME that I forget about how others feel when I act the way I do. My insecurity makes others feel devalued. Who would want to be around someone who doesn't even want to be around themselves? Sitting on things too long just make me spiral, and I haven't coped well in that regard historically. I also invaded your and many others privacy multiple times. I simply wanted to be included, but I went too far despite knowing it was wrong. There was always access available, I was just too much of a coward to put in the work required. I tried to cheat. The longer and longer I dig myself in the worse it gets.I understand. I honestly did a long time ago, but I still chose to act in a poor way. I felt more and more embarrassed as it went on as I became more and more unsure of what anxieties were rooted in reality and which were rooted in fantasy. If only knowing was enough to fix things.
>>35044454Why can't you fix things? So you missed out on one opportunity, and maybe you missed out on a few more before it. Your life's not over, and the beauty of life is there are always more open doors ahead of you. Hell, some of the doors you think are closed probably aren't. The important thing is you seem to know what you did wrong. Now go out and give it another try. You may fail again and again, but all that matters is you keep at it until you get it right. Setbacks are still progress as long as you keep going.
>>35044696i have no clear sign that anything in the past while was actually related to the situation, and if it's NOT then I look insane. I guess I'm halfway there.
>>35044716I'm not really sure what happened to you, but it kinda sounds like you had a relationship break down or fail to take off, and you should know that failed relationships are rarely entirely one person's fault. In case that makes you feel any better.
>>35044370Went thru my camera roll and reminded myself. It is what it is. Just need to do better.
>>35044752uhhhhhhh, sure, but i think it falls more squarely on me. i am the one who initiated the deceit. I don't think we've actually spoken in a long time. I am haunted by ghosts of the past, etc, etc, etc. you know how it is.
>>35044323This x 1000
>>35044143Lol
A person is supposed to be Psychic to apologize now?
how tf can one become psychic?
imagine being a little bitch for not telling your ex to leave and admitting to yourself that you should have gotten it over with for over 4 years just to give yourself a pat on your shoulder because your mom told you to zen it out like a chinese monk convinced you that you would prosper for not being a man and telling your bitch of an ex to take a hike for a second there i forgot why your dad abandoned you while still being married to your fob mom, but it makes sense now
have you considered just starting to fucking act right? and then none of this would have happened?
shown such an ugly side of you all the love got wiped out in an instant. go home bitch
>>35045283What is "acting right" to you?>>35045286Why are you angry? I don't get it. What'd I do? I literally don't understand how anything I've said could offend you. Just making observations.
>>35043774I don't know, I have this weird want for her back, but I want to argue everything out, because whilst she was ride or die she outright scared meIronically when she stopped showing interest did I actually want her, because there was play, there was a need to gain her affection.
>>35044018I hear you, but I truly wish I never met her. She brought nothing good into my life. She wasted a lot of my time and money, and she made me cry a lot.
Maria, Missing you a lot today.
>>35046154When don't you, you sick fuck.Leave her alone.