>>35036818
I'm trying to get rid of that myself. Don't know how, sorry. I think humans were just designed for love.

i keep overthinking about every fucking action because i feel im lesser than everyone and i have to "fix" myself i keep engaging in wtv fucked up kinks to cope with the loneliness
when my parents show me love i feel better more resilient and actually have some self esteem to care about myself

i tried to cope by finding a partner to love me but i sound autistic AF and weird and im unironically sensitive as corny as this sounds
so idk idk rape

>>35036821
you should love me faggot, sorry idk thanks for replying i hate you because youre nice

i always wanted some other family to adopt me as a kid i used to day dream about being loved by rich cool parents

>>35036821
if youre rich do some therapy and tell me the answer

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i need attention
can we get muted on here for spamming

>>35036824
I'm pretty empathetic towards you despite the fact that you would probably ruin my life if I ever even tried talking to you irl.
>>35036827
I don't trust therapists because the people who tell me to take it are strange individuals that I don't want to be like. I'm not rich but I can try some free programs if I actually trusted them to work.

>>35036832
>I'm pretty empathetic towards you despite the fact that you would probably ruin my life if I ever even tried talking to you irl.
nigga (sorry) everyone who said this e raped me and shattered my remaining self esteem to pieces
i miss the feeling tho

>who tell me to take it are strange individuals that I don't want to be like
omg youre such a fusy contentious entitled retard its hot sorry
anyways a therapist is supposed to be higher iq than you basically to help you cope and give you insight if you basically have tunnel vision- idk (im bored fuck you)

>>35036818
You don't need to lose the urge to be loved, you need to straighten the fuck up and learn to enjoy your little fucked up life a bit more. Find some guy to latch onto and hold on tight.

i love you

i feel happy venting and talking to someone being social is nice (cant wait to get bullied by some random man on here)

>>35036842
i dont love you..cause um
anyways thanks i wont take your advice because idk i wont tell you sorry but thanks for spending the time writing this <3

11 replies and i have 8 of them i think im starting to attract weird ppl

come back please>>35036821

>>35036847
I mean I'm here and you've got my attention, what aren't you telling me about why you won't take my advice? If you're going to be dumb and spiral you might as well go all the way

>>35036848
You attract weird people because you're weird, and not in the innovative way. Drink some water, listen to some mommy asmr if you have to, do some pushups and figure out what it is you want to do in life. It will be a lot easier for a woman to love you if she is able to tell what you actually want to do once finding love.

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>>35036818
You'll never get rid of that feeling, sorry. It's just how you and every human is wired, and you have no control over it. Being unloved is a symptom of the bigger problem
>being a failure
Identify what makes you a failure and start working to fix it. If you're a fat ugly schlub, start getting /fit/. Dedicate your time to something worthwhile instead of jerking off to anime in your room all day. You will continue to be unloved and miserable if you don't make yourself into a person worthy of being loved. No woman wants to be loyal to a loser, so don't be one. It's really quite as simple as that.
>abloo bloo, that's so hard to do
Yeah, it is. Life is hard. Take baby steps towards improvement. Again, getting /fit/ is an excellent first step, and isn't hard if you actually put some dedication towards it. Get a hobby that puts you in some social setting with other people. Get into tabletop games and go to your local nerd club, join a running group, a sport, talk to people at the gym, there are options.
Change your mindset. At the end of the day, your family are just people and their lack of love for you shouldn't dictate the way you view the world. Especially if their dissapointment in you is self inflicted by your own laziness (it probably is). Fix yourself, it's the only thing you can actually change.

>>35036855
>and not in the innovative way
: (
but i dont feel better even when i do positive bs, i always feel empty with a side of positive stuff done
my mentality is the same

>>35036862
Fill your mind with knowledge and fill your mind then. Feeling lonely and having an empty head are two different things.

>>35036857
>Identify what makes you a failure and start working to fix it
it didnt matter i cant focus on the positive stuff in my life, i ruminate on every bad experience ever i judge myself by my falls
i hate myself when my parents hate me, i can say that cause i know what the other side looks and feels like
when im confident i feel better i dont care if i fell down or made a mistake, otherwise i feel scared empty alone
improving doesnt matter i cant remember anything good i did maybe the chemicals (idk serotonin?) from working out will make me better
but i feel shitty constantly
youre the normie they warn us about, you see life from a different place i cant relate
sorry for being a pessimist

well i wanna prove you wrong once and for all i dont mind a /fit/ journey or wtv u want since i would be kinda happy working towards a goal that i shared with someone (ppl pleasing mentality)
i have hobbies but im too scared to do them im barely communicating with you online

>>35036869
im so tired i dont wanna do anything i dont like thinking only hurting myself sounds nice : )

>>35036818
>why do i have to rely on them to feel complete

you don't, but you have to take the responsibility what they have done to you. and the influence they still have, as long as you let them.

If you don't have any other than emotional obligations, I would start by setting small boundaries. A no where you'd usualy say yes, a confrontation with something fucked up they said, and so on.

You sound like you want to please them at all costs. This is not how it works.
One has to become independent from the emotional dependence of the parents. They are just some other trauamtized, fucked up piece of shits. But they have never been, nor ever will, ask the questions you are asking.

>>35036884
>>35036887
You're really annoying and you're not my child so this will be my last response to you. If you refuse to do anything because you're lazy that's 100% your fault and companionship doesn't magically bring willpower or an urge to live. Find what makes you want to live and just do it. Read into different religious traditions or even pantheism if you have to because they taught me about the universe itself being a byproduct of love. Your time here is finite so stop being gay and do something.

>>35036894
yeah i acc feel happy confronting them, and not letting them walk all over me, despite being so afraid of them too
should i even say im afraid of them? doesnt this make it cemented?
do you think i should stop ebing so honest??

>35036901
youre mad cause i didnt reply to you
here 35036855

the person i was talking to would never be this rude i trust them

no (You) for you too btw FAGGOT

can we all be nice this is my safe space guy sorry if i was rude to anyone i was emotional

>>35036818
I have a good relationship with my parents and I really appreciate them but I still feel lonely. I wish I had somebody I was close to, somebody I can talk to about meaningless things, somebody who would want to talk to me. I cope by practicing music often, it doesnt fill the void but it is nice to have something that I can think about often.

>>35036976
how come you have trouble making friends lol? shouldnt it be the easiest thing to do if you have been raised in a healthy loving household?

hi i need attention please talk

>>35037003
Idk ive been like this since I was a teenager, I am introverted and can talk to people about shared interests but I struggle to form closer relationships. I am very lucky to have good parents but they can only do so much for you. Like it is still entirely on me to go out and do stuff I find uncomfortable in order to meet people. I already exhaust myself just existing lol so it is unrealistic for me to just meet anybody because I do nothing but work - gym - practice guitar.

>>35037023
this is an image board, not an instant messager, you gay loser. nobody owes you instant responses during work hours. from your responses this thread, it's clear that you were hoping for everybody to pat your ass and placate you. you obviously aren't actually looking for a solution to the problem you created yourself.

>>35036818
you are 2 fixed on enneagram
https://www.enneagrammer.com/type-2

>>35036818
No woman will ever love you anon, 90% of women out there do not love their man, they don't know how to love anyway; they only tolerate him as long as he provides.
Learn to be stoic and get by without their fake and subpar love therefore about 90% of women should be invisible to you. Rise up above your biological programming.
Take care of your health anons and find distractions to help pass the time, that's all most people do anyway, the difference is they do it with somebody so time spent together flows differently. It's merely an illusion though.

i want a girl who will provide for me

>>35037127
Okay, Chris Chan. I'm sure there's a huge line of women willing to be the breadwinner for an unstable, clingy, loser manchild.
Just so you're completely aware, that will never happen. You clearly have mom issues and there isn't a single woman in the world that is going to fill that role. Moping around in your room and hoping for a nonexistent woman to magically appear in your life to wipe your ass and make you tendies while you play around on the computer is probably the worst possible way to spend your existence on this mortal coil.

>>35037143
YAY ><

>>35037143
nvm i read the rest of your answer
>Moping around in your room and hoping for a nonexistent woman to magically appear in your life
OK THERE ISNT AN ALTERNATIVE ANSWERS
give me a fucking realistic answer man pLEASE NO GENERIC get better, be nice, have a huge personality
give me anything that fucking worked for you or anyone you actually know i want something realistic
everyone who replied is either raped mentally like i am or just a normie asshole who condescendingly says "just be better brah"

>>35037160
Get a burner phone. Get into a sport. Indulge in creative writing and read books that you find interesting. That's what I did to be happy, now either try it or stop whining.

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>>35037160
>pLEASE NO GENERIC get better
>what's 2+2
>and no don't give me some dumb answer like 4
Hey retard, that is the answer. Self improvement is an enormously personal endeavor that you will have to cater to your needs. And there is already good info in this thread that you won't actually act on because you're just looking for people to be nice to you.
>go outside more
Go on a walk/ bike ride every day instead of holing up in your room. This WILL improve your mentality and is a gateway into getting in shape.
>daily calisthenics
Do some form of body weight workout in your room every day. This is the gateway to actually working out, and a daily task will help you build your completely non-existent discipline.
>do more social activities
Literally do whatever you have to do to start talking to people. Being a scaredycat faggot is a symptom of you being un-practiced in conversation. The only way to improve is to do it more often. Go to some video game tournaments, comicon, or something where everyone else is also autistic and bad at talking so you don't feel out of place.
>diet
Fix your diet, don't eat slop. Learn to cook for yourself.
>get a job
Jobs require social interaction and will give you more confidence and independence.
>make serious goals to become independent
Do whatever the fuck you have to do to get out of your parents sphere of influence, since they're obviously the main cause of the majority of your strife. Getting a job obviously is a part of this. It's a rough time to get out on your own right now, but it IS possible, and would likely be monumentally freeing for you to be your own man.

The long and short of it is that you're currently a massively dependent, difficult to deal with, annoying weirdo. You seem to be acutely aware of that fact. So start changing it ANY way you can.

>>35037212
Don't listen to what this anon says, he's a coping faggot just as miserable as you, he failed at being even a failed normalfag and thinks living on the fumes of spite and self-righteousness is enough to keep him going because that's what he saw his fellow mindraped goyim do.
Instead kill yourself, preferably spectularly. Only Death can set us free. We seek the sweet oblivion from the moment we are born into this game

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>>35037470
Worthless post from a soul-raped doomer retard. People like OP can't be placated with niceties, and small steps towards independence, as well as a healthier mind and body are the only way out of the self-imposed prison of NEET loserdom.
>We seek the sweet oblivion from the moment we are born into this game
Maybe you have, you miserable faggot. I am thoroughly enjoying God's ultimate gift of concious existence and deeply appreciate being able to exercise my will to make myself and my family happy. You're the soulless goy if you can't take pleasure in your consciousness, even despite its suffering.
>Instead kill yourself, preferably spectularly
Killing yourself is the ultimate pussy move. If you've got nothing to lose, you're free to do anything. You can act on any personal desire you've been too scared to carry out, and might just find that it gives you a reason to keep going. Unless that desire was raping or killing, I guess.

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>>35037607
>I am thoroughly enjoying God's ultimate gift of concious existence and deeply appreciate being able to exercise my will to make myself and my family happy. You're the soulless goy if you can't take pleasure in your consciousness, even despite its suffering.
Blathering cope will not make it true. At least admit it's a coping mechanism, people used to be able to do that before the self-improvement cults took over. Here's the situation: you are slowly being rendered into defeat, your struggle will mean nothing, you will be forgotten and your willpower is for naught. We are all flowing in the same current and your attachment to this illusion won't stop your final processing.
>Killing yourself is the ultimate pussy move.
Quite the opposite, the death drive is our ultimate wiring, and those that heed more immediately to it's call are among our bravest.
See you in hell. I'll be waiting there with all our friends

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>>35037659
>At least admit it's a coping mechanism,
I am quite aware of my own mortality and cosmic insignificance, and have a healthy relationship with the idea of oblivion. There is no cope here. Just because you can't handle the idea of nothingness in Death doesn't mean the rest of us can't. The only thing you can be SURE of is your current, living experience of the universe, so it's in your own best interest to make sure it's as good as possible. You set yourself up for success in this regard with a capable body and a healthy mind.
>you are slowly being rendered into defeat, your struggle will mean nothing, you will be forgotten and your willpower is for naught
Yeah, so what? Nothing after my existence ends matters to me because I won't be here to experience it. Fulfillment is derived from the effort of making myself better, and personal fulfillment is quite literally the only thing that matters in this world, because it's the only thing you can be certain of.
>the death drive is our ultimate wiring, and those that heed more immediately to it's call are among our bravest
Okay then, you should take your own advice, retard. Go be brave. I'll be enjoying my time while I'm here.
>See you in hell
There isn't a hell, there's an empty void for eternity when you die. So I won't be seeing you anywhere, doomer faglord. Godspeed.

>>35037742
>Okay then, you should take your own advice, retard
Sorry mate, can't be arsed

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>>35037758
Kek, alright. But while you're still here existing, you should go on a nice walk during a pretty sunset and try to enjoy yourself a little. Just because you're gonna die some day doesn't mean you can't have a nice time before that happens. Have a good night, anon.

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>>35037780
I'll try.

>>35036857
>You will continue to be unloved and miserable if you don't make yourself into a person worthy of being loved. No woman wants to be loyal to a loser, so don't be one. It's really quite as simple as that.
If my standards are low, everyone else’s should be too. Having high standards is morally abhorrent. Do not dispute me on this

>>35038328
>Having high standards is morally abhorrent.
Gay

>>35036818
No you don't, you're a human and the need to be loved and belong is no different from hunger or thirst.

>>35036818
I think you simply need to give out love without expecting anything back. I tried to do the whole self isolation thing for a while, but I kept on relapsing. It turns out that ignoring everyone in pursuit of 'being productive' and just working eventually makes you break down and you can't even do the non emotional labor anymore. Sometimes people just get bad rng and are born into sucky families. Friends help.

>>35038385
okay, addendum to this, don't let yourself be treated like shit.

fuck it, i have been postponing replying to everyone but gotta do what we gotta do

>>35037180
>Get a burner phone.
second time reading this comment and i understand that you probably have some empathy but fuck you for acting better than me, that being said why should get a burner phone


>Get into a sport.
sure thats manageable i dont mind, i decided on doing gymmaxxing to commit to a prior comment and you asking for a sport makes it easier for me
i will have a 4 day/week 2 hour workouts either home or gym to get the second bs off your list

>creative writing and read books
best i can do is journaling and reading my medical school books and the faggot books i already own (e.g rich dad poor dad)

>That's what I did to be happy,
fuck you nigger, im being sarcastic if you cant tell
thanks for the advice tho preciate it

>>35038328
there are plenty of fat mentally ill loser foids out there if your standards are truly that low. but if you shack up with one, you're going to have a really bad time. and they certainly aren't going to provide for you and play mommy which is what OP seems to want

>>35037180
btw if you have any comments hmu, i will keep looking up this thread!!

>>35039459
>i will have a 4 day/week 2 hour workouts either home or gym to get the second bs off your list
You won't. I'm not trashing you, but instantly committing to a drastic, scheduled workout plan pretty much always fails for everyone that tries it. You'll do it for a week, then slip back into being sedentary because its too much of a habit change to enact all at once. I've seen it a million times. You've demonstrated that you don't have the willpower to simply commit to something like that, but that's okay since very few people do.
The best way to actually start getting /fit/ from nothing is to start small and build the daily habit of being active. As already mentioned, daily walks and calisthenics are a much more manageable way to start changing your habits, and becomes an easy transition into actually lifting and exercising once you begin to enjoy it. If you start a drastic workout schedule, then inevitably fail to keep up with it, you'll feel even shittier about yourself and be in a worse spot than when you started.

>>35039498
That said, if you have the desire to go to the gym, you absolutely should. Sometimes, making friends at the gym and getting out of your house and away from your parents for a bit can be very helpful for actually motivating you to stay with it.

>>35037212
>Hey retard
hi mommy

>Self improvement is an enormously personal endeavor that you will have to cater to your needs.
omfg, nigger i havent been born yesterday, i have been doing all fuck ass improvements BUT as i fucking mentioned i love dwelling on the nasty bullshit MY BRAIN ISNT AS NORMIE AS YOURS

FOR EXAMPLE (Bare with me dont be bored mommy) i gave a 1 dollar tip in cash to someone and they looked at me weirdly, i got afraid and i kept overthinking this incident 3 hours and i couldnt calm down i kept pacing around my home for 30 minutes fidgeting to soothe myself since i was scared)
new example i gave too much of a tip since the person doing the labor was young and after i gave i kept overthinking too saying (ishould have given him less or maybe given him more he was soo nice etc etc)


>you're just looking for people to be nice to you.
yes nigger, cause my parents arent so nice to me
adopt me if you are loving and nice

>Go on a walk/ bike ride every day instead of holing up in your room.
ok thats acc good advice so thanks, i will probably try doing track or just running once a week since i should hopefully start attending my fuckass college classes and wont have time, maybe commuting should be considered a workout (wish me luck fag)

>daily calisthenics
ok mommy i will, i decided to just do basic gym bs, to gain more weight and i dont wanna bother relearning how to calisthenics


>Go to some video game tournaments,
i will try implementing this by always gaming with my mic on since i actually have to give comms in higher ranks to not lose and eat shit (hmu APEX legends players), or do you think thats not enough???!!!!


>diet
im underweight mommy

>get a job
its either a job or med school, but i will look into any available intern bs since most jobs require tons of commitments in WRITING


>annoying weirdo.
came twice to this just so you know

>>35037470
>>35037607
>>35037659
>>35037742
>>35037758
>>35037780
>>35038012
im so tired i read them but i cba to even answer sorry mr nice guy( who gave me the advice) the asshole who said "kys" nigga do it first and i would genuinely have a blast and bust a one for you if you send a video of you harming yourself in any way

>>35038374
i love you
i read this 10 hours ago and i reread it now and i had the same thought of saying i love you

you are the only one from the last 10-15 comments maybe who made me feel like im not alone
thanks

>>35038385
you too, sending love
wish someone can adopt us

>Sometimes people just get bad rng and are born into sucky families.
you have a way with describing me i love how smart you are

>I tried to do the whole self isolation thing for a while
BAHAHHAHA it has negative effects, it makes emotions come harder? if thats a thing, it makes you more vulnerable soft and weak, im so sorry for you
if you found anything that might help hmu : )

>>35036818
You can't just rurn off emotions. Dumbass

SORRY EVERYONE WHO IS NEW
IDK HOW TO MANAGE POSTS ON HERE TO KEEP THEM LOOKING NEAT it looks disgusting since im just replying at once


>>35038466
>okay, addendum to this, don't let yourself be treated like shit.
idk desu how to not like being treated like shit, even saying this outloud is humiliating i just stop interacting with others since my brain wont let me like positive experiences and its too damaging to enjoy shitting ones (its probs cope for "being in control")


>>35039498
thanks for being realistic but ik myself i wont get better until i do some weird stunt and do 180 life habits
altho on smaller scale working myself into building a habit is realistic but i think i need a big change to feel the difference and not get back to my disgusting life

>>35039539
>rurn
kek

>Dumbass
i came


im gonna take a little time off of 4chan to write down everything I need to get for the next month (which should make me a new person as yall said)

>>35039550
You clearly haven't gleaned anything from this thread and should go back to your reddit hugbox if you just want people to kiss your ass. Good luck with everything, you're going to need it.

>>35039515
>i dont wanna bother relearning how to calisthenics
this nigga doesn't know how to do a pushup lmao

>>35039537
>you are the only one from the last 10-15 comments maybe who made me feel like im not alone
Feel welcome, we are all in this boat together.

>>35040505
how many pushups can you do

>>35042701
about 60 with strict form. i can go all day if performing the half down junk that most normies call a pushup. how many can you do?

>>35043498
>about 60
thats nice
can you please do a time relapse doing it on /fit/ or here, wherever you find better
and i will post and tell you my answer after you

>>35045062
no, I will not. and no, you wouldn't. go be a weak fag somewhere else

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>>35036818
It is difficult to overstate just how much psychological damage occurs in the young mind in never experiencing love when it was supposed to. It creates invisible but ever present and outwardly manifesting psychological wounds that may heal over time, but never disappear. It is a lifelong crippling of the mind, affecting things like confidence, self-esteem, healthy thought processes, and inability to cope with the difficulties in life in a healthy way. It breeds attitudes of perpetual envy and anger and depression. Especially when said individuals are constantly bombarded by images and media of people having lived their best life while they missed out and can never experience, ever. Because time is only linearly forward.

A means to try and "heal the mind" which has already happened for many who have resigned themselves to apathy and quiet resentment, but it doesn't remove the scar. The scar is always there. Always present. And it will always serve as a reminder, and always influence future thoughts and decisions and actions.

>>35045500
BAHAHAHAHAHHAH mr 60 pushups aint so macho after all
why do you have the urge to be an asshole right after i asked for proof

>>35045814
im thankful for having half assed parents and not completely shitty one, im so fucked up like this cant imagine if they are even worse
and yes i feel the difference holy fuck the feeling of being loved and wanted by others is so fuckig elating i get that sometimes sadly

>>35039543
You only have to push "enter" once here, redditfag.

>>35046504
you only have to not push enter nor post and save your effort, or even better just push the trigger once and it would get easier for everyone you know : )

>>35037180
This doesn't work; you'll be fine for a while, but you’ll fall back

>>35046285
Dude 60 pushups isn't that insane. I can rep out like 30 at a time and I barely lift I just do pull ups that's it

>>35036821
I'll be your love

>>35039543
>thanks for being realistic but ik myself i wont get better until i do some weird stunt and do 180 life habits
Lol. Lmao even. NTA, but I used to personal training, and I can't tell you how many times I heard this from clients. "Oh, I can't do small changes... I need a big change to make it work!!"
Not a single one would stay with it. Not one person. That anon is entirely right. You will attempt a big change, then fail because that's human nature, and then you will beat yourself up for not keeping up with the program, despite the fact that you set yourself up for failure from the beginning.

It's not hard man. Every morning after you get out of bed. Pushups, pull-ups (door frame pull up bars are goated), and situps. Start building the habit, you have no excuse. If you haven't already started making some changes to your schedule in the 3 days since this post, then you're obviously not actually serious about getting healthier.