It's been 15 years together and I've been supportive through everything.She acts sweet to me but when the going gets tough she bitches at me. My mom is dying and she has shown her true colors.The internet has told me women are just that way, is that true?
I'm sorry anon. Wish I could help.
>>35035044Females, especially white ones, have been parasites off of White Man's work and sacrifice, now they are parasites off of POC/minority struggle(valid or not). They are the eternal pampered children.
>>35035044Learn game
>>35035200Not going to happen I have severe autism.
>>35035044get back at her by terminally injuring her mom
People will always have negative emotions. As long you keep your cool and not let it get to you, you'll be alright.
>>35035044Women are incapable of love and are so infinitely narcissistic that they would never be able to respect a man or truly understand him. Sucks, but its the truth. You can however get women who are naturally less vicious/abusive than others. But if you're married I would recommend just trying to make it work for the rest of your life. This will likely require closing off a lot of yourself and shutting down in lots of ways. But just try to keep her happy and work hard, uphold your responsibilities, and take care of her and any children you two might have. A man's life is one of duty and labor.t. Married man who had to swallow this pill many years ago.
>>35035212I know that negative emotions happen.My mistake was being there for her when no one else was and expecting the same thing. Not so much as expecting it in return but thinking that's what we were for each other. That's what it feels like when you're there for them and they accept everything you give. I guess no one is really there for you in this life. I keep learning over and over that I have to be there for myself and rely on no one else. But it feels terrible.
>>35035230She's there for you. You're just expecting too much out of her happiness. She's human like you and she doesn't always get it right. Since she is still supporting you, where is the harm in that she doesn't love you. There has to be something I'm not seeing that's otherwise causing this.
>>35035230What I meant is that this idea she doesn't love you could be delusional. People don't just out of nowhere not love someone okay. Pain also brings out the worse in people.
>>35035239She has shown me ZERO compassion or forgiveness for any mistakes even as I give her more, forgotten I'm going through anything, and hasn't even asked how I'm doing or shown any reaction when I remind her that I'm going through a tough time or before/after I go out to deal with this shit. I'm not exaggerating when I say I was there for her constantly and she hasn't been there at all. I don't feel like expecting anything at all is too much.
>>35035249Brother. That is just what it is to be a man, sadly. Especially when it comes to women. Women will never give a single fuck about a man, and that's why they are so brutal and harsh and unforgiving while simultaneously expecting to be forgiven and coddled. Life is hard, but the truth is simply the truth. Women don't know love and will always just be selfish and non-understanding. That's why 75% of lesbian marriages end in divorce. 2 such creatures can't make it work. A man is required so that the relationship can be made to work through his sacrifices.
>>35035249Has she told you things like "try to focus on the positives" or even kept reminding you to have humility towards her emotions? Has she even told you that when she was dying she was gonna be more emotional than usual?
>>35035261Nothing like that. I think I've gotten a "sorry" when mom started going downhill and that's it.
>>35035280Was the sorry sincere?
Ask her if she meant the sorry.
>>35035330I'm not going to ask her if she meant the sorry from months ago
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>>35035044find a church girl at a catholic church.they never do bad or bitch because god is always watching them
>>35035228spoken like a true doormat. dont listen to this whipped puppy. poor bastard probably asks for her permission to use the bathroom too.grow a spine and put your foot down.dont tolerate her shit. thats abuse. if she doesnt want to change then you use the door. its really that simple
>>35035392Yeah I don't know what OP is going on about. That's not every woman you encounter OP. I'm not even a supposed "chad".
>>35035044A direct, calm conversation is the clearest next step. Choose a moment when neither of you is rushed or already in conflict. Speak from your own experience rather than accusing her character; this reduces defensiveness and keeps the focus on the present need. You might say something along these lines:“I need to talk with you about something important. My mother is dying, and this is one of the hardest periods of my life. I have been carrying a great deal of stress and sadness. What has been difficult for me is that I have not felt any real interest or support from you during this time. You have not asked how I am doing, and when I have mentioned it, there has been little response. i have tried to be present for you over the years when you needed support. Right now I need the same from you simple acknowledgment, a question about how I am holding up, and some patience while I deal with this. I am not asking for perfection, only for basic care and attention while I go through this. Can we talk about how we can handle this better going forward?” Keep your tone steady and your requests concrete. After you speak, pause and listen. Her response whether she engages, deflects, becomes defensive, or shows genuine willingness to adjust will give you clearer information about what is possible in the relationship. if she asks for specifics, you can add one or two practical examples: “When I come home from the hospital or a difficult conversation with family, it would help if you asked how it went,” or “I need fewer critical comments while I am under this kind of strain.” You are entitled to state your needs clearly. How she receives them will tell you more than further silence.
>>35035387Don't know what I'm supposed to do with this.>>35035426That's why I'm asking.>>35035427You're 100% correct but I don't know if I feel like pursuing. If I have to ask for basic acknowledgement 15 years in, I don't think it will stick. It might be over in my mind already.
>>35035044>Is this girl that I choose to be with every single day for the last 15 years every girl everywhere?OP retardism confirmed
>>35035604I've been with one girl for 15 years and the internet tells me all girls are like this, see other replies in this thread. That's why I am asking if anyone has definite experience to the contrary, do you?
>>35035228Lol cuck
>>35035044Well, you have been with her for 15 years and she has been with you for 15 years. You are going through a tough time as a man and ngl, women expect you to be the emotionally responsible and strong person in the relationship. Yes, your partner should be helping you, but you might be expecting too much from her potentially. Remember, she is just a woman which is equivalent to the most responsible teenager in the house. You are the one that is in charge and leading. You need to be able to deal with most of this yourself while she helps in small ways.
>>35035044That's just life. It's unique to each person. I understand her just as much as she understands me.
>>35035044>The internet has told me women are just that way, is that true?If you mean are they likely to get upset and occasionally say things they don't mean because their mother is dying, then yes. Wouldn't you?
I would have picked Ai too desu
>>35035044No it's not true. All people are like this. Let it go. Some people are worse than others. Sorry about your mum.
>>35035200You can gain legitimate ride or die niggers with even the slightest game but you'll never get a truly loyal female with even the best game.
>>35035044For what it's worth, if you've been together for 15 years, I assume she's old right? At this point you've already taken her best years. A divorce really wouldn't be so bad. You can do better. And it's only going to get worse from here, it's not like she's going to become prettier or more supportive with time. Genuinely, marriage is such a scam, women have maybe 10 years of value and after that there is no good reason not to replace her if you can, or even just go be alone. There's no more value from her for you man. Just move on.
you have what i call a "sad face "problem""unlike puzzles or dilemmas, your problem is entirely made up, and all we need to do is turn that frown upside down, and the problem vanishesyou are lamenting your own emotional disregulation, and the fact that it has infected your wife in such a way that she can't just shake it off for youyou may as well have brought home the flu and then got upset that she caught it as welltwo things would radically help the situation:#1 a calming event where you two reach emotional baseline, ideally with physical touch heavily involved, with either silence or sweet words only exchanged, until you are just at the brink of dazing off, at which you mention one (1) more thing that can be done in the near recent future that might make you both feel betterif and only if #1 fails to foment #2 working yourself through exercise or productivity to complete exhaustion where sleep forcefully descends upon you, then the next day attempt #1 or #2 again in perpetuity until you die or morale improves
>>35037753I don't know where you're getting that I'm infecting my wife with emotional disregulation. This post seems entirely made up in your own mind.
>>35039278i'm not going to be cruel to you because i know you're in a bad way but i just want to post this screenshot and walk awaythere is nothing i can say to someone who can't even see themselves
>>35035044>The internet has told me women are just that way, is that true?Yes. Internet is also where they share their unfiltered opinions about things as they can easily find a lot of like minded women to back them up. Just use her, abuse her and dispose her ffs. That's all a woman is worth in this day and age.
>>35039566Username socio. Manipulative shit. Ignore
>>35035044No woman will ever love you anon, 90% of women out there do not love their man, they don't know how to love anyway; they only tolerate him as long as he provides.Learn to be stoic and get by without their fake and subpar love therefore about 90% of women should be invisible to you. Rise up above your biological programming.Take care of your health anons and find distractions to help pass the time, that's all most people do anyway, the difference is they do it with somebody so time spent together flows differently. It's merely an illusion though.
>>35035126White men will cause our species extinction
>She acts sweet to me but when the going gets tough she bitches at me>being there for her when no one else was and expecting the same thing>She has shown me ZERO compassion or forgiveness for any mistakes>forgotten I'm going through anything, and hasn't even asked how I'm doing or shown any reaction when I remind her that I'm going through a tough timeOp list what do you actually want from her.You're asking for love and companionship. What does that look like in practice? Would her converting to catholicism and going to church make you feel better? You have a younger, kinder girl in mind to divorce her for?
>>35040397You even quoted where I said practically exactly what I expect:>[ask] how I'm doing or [show] any reaction when I remind her that I'm going through a tough timeDo that even once. That's what I would practically expect to see. I did 1000x that when she was in the same boat.Not sure where the Catholicism stuff is coming from.
>>35035044It's cluster b behavior, emotional abuse, overt or covert, devaluation, etc That type of shit isn't right.
>>35035228Abusive women weaponize traditional roles and your belief in them to keep your spirit broken, they want a "real man", but they destroy any of their masculinity.What you're talking about is losing yourself to appease someone who hates you, that's no way to live.
>>35040962Generalizations show you are unable to be yourself and instead mask who you are to con her into a relationship then complain when her needs make you keep having to mask. News flash. You are not naturally compatible with her, its not true love. Thats why you make and lie to her about who you are and fake everything.
>>35040560If you're smart enough to tell us why aren't you telling her?You can solve your own problem by asking her to do the thing but here you are trying to get men to whiteknight you
>>35042502You're a retard making fanfictions in your head about people you don't know trying to gaslight them into thinking they're bad for recognizing patterns of abusive behavior that plenty of people can confirm.>erm ackshually ur bad for pointing out abuse >ur making generalizations about abusers!!! Stop being mean to them!Lots of cluster B fucks on the internet are like this, narcissists and borderlines can never be guilty.>oh no muh stigmaWhat I said it's like saying male abusers often use physical and sexual violence against women, it's just a fact. >oh no not the heckerino abusers! Don't generalize them!!! [insert fanfic about me for having this opinion based on real life]Retard
>>35042753I guess those men aren't getting their sexual needs met so it's ok for them the be abusive following your logic.Muh mask
>>35042753>recognizing patterns of abusive behavior that plenty of people can confirm>all women Misogynists are almost always men who haven't been loved by women as much as they wanted to be. You knew that, right?>What I said it's like saying all males are abusers often use physical and sexual violence against women, it's just a fact.Nvm. You're one of those rabid feminists
>>35042763I never said all women you fucking retard, holy shit.I said women that are abusive, (not that all women are abusive). Women who wants to be a housewife and a masculine men can be kind and good too, they exist.Holy shit, how can you misinterpret something so badly, unless you're doing it on purpose.
>>35042753No just quoting what she said you did. The fault is her with you. So stop whining at me. Your words wont convince me and certainly wont convince her
>>35042753It is interesting how the narc starts trying to gaslight that I have all the faults that he is proven to have, hence why she left you. Really quite simple. You beat an infant, harmed her, and so much more. You are at fault. Your garbage is not on me. Its your fault because you did all those things. Now rot
>>35042556If you have to tell someone how to treat you with basic bare minimum kindness, first of all it isn't going to stick, and second of all that's just a symptom of how that person doesn't care about you and it can't solve that.
>>35035044no on the bright side, if you beat them they became submissive. always slap a hoe out of line never let them treat you bad. only beatings can cure their sickness
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>>35035044Sorry anon. I'm trying to figure out to answer myself.
By the way anon you can observe here in this thread why it's impossible to talk to mentally ill, manipulative and abusive people, they will go in circles, accuse, make shit up and generally it's pretty bizarre because it's psychotic, you don't share the same reality as they do, the foundation of the discussions are usually poisoned from the start, the very framing of them are dishonest and gaslighty.Beware of them online too, they have a tendency to victim blame.
>>35040383>White men will cause our species extinctionNTA. How?
>>35045203Getting tired of their niggershines probably
