>>35007752
>appaled
appalled*

>>35007752
Let him make his own decisions and experience whatever consequences he has chosen.

>>35007752
He's insane. There are basically no legal age women who are virgins, is he after children or someone shit??

>>35007752
Does he have amicrodick or something? This is just him delfecting any sort of intimacy by posing factually impossible demands. The only women who may meet his criteria are iether severely mentally ill, or religious fanatics who generally get married off within whatever cult raised them.
>How many men out there are actually repulsed by non-virgin women when it comes to marriage?
Outside terminally online freaks? Basically none. There are severely religious men who are like that, but those generally just look for an equally religious wife instead of seething about people not following their personal lifestyle.

>>35007763
he is 27 and only wants women above 20

>>35007779
He's completely retarded. I mean maybe if he wanted to go for a barely legal teen it would make some sense but his 20+ rule makes this shit even more retarded.

>>35007767
>Does he have amicrodick or something?
Doubt that gaslighting trick would work as he would immediately counter me by saying only desperate dicklet losers who're insanely in the depths of desperation would even contemplate idea of marrying used up whores. Besides, I think big dicked men themselves don't have to settle down with non-virgin women if they've an abundance mindset, so I don't see the logic with your implicitly proposed gaslighting trick

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>>35007811
I've figured you out. You're just this guy making a third thread about this subject.
>>34998653

>>35007834
I'm different though anon.
I suspect that since the topic of bodycounts became so common, one could start seeing a lot of rage b8s & shitposts surrounding it.

>>35007849
You can't fool me. Not that hard to tell from the writing style.
But regardless of how many threads you post, there is no magical combination of words that will help you. Not every problem has a linguistic solution. Sometimes you just have to have sex.
The one thing I will give you credit for is that you've correctly identified that your manner of speech is so unlikable that it's better to project it onto a third-party entity (e.g. a brother that doesn't exist). However, you will not get a better answer than this, so you should frame it on your refrigerator.

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>>35007860
LMAO.
This place is literally filled with schizos.

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>>35007895

>>35007872
I'll let you have the last post. Later!

>>35007811
I was making a rhetoric point.
The main point is that he is blocking any kind of relationship or intimacy with a woman by demanding taht she fulfills a condition that is basically unfulfillable unless his target group is literally 16 years old.
>think big dicked men themselves don't have to settle down with non-virgin women if they've an abundance mindset
The average age for both men and women to lose their virginity is 18, with less than 5% of both genders holding on to virginity after the age of 25. There is no "abundance" here.
Besides , the only people who hold that mindset are terminally online virgin incel. They have been so addled by porn that they immediately imagine any woman getting creampied by Tyrone if she ever has been with another man. Its just mental illness.
Big dicked men with an abundance mentality who also think like this flat out do not exist.

>>35007888
You would be better off if you actually heeded to this advice instead of derailing my thread

>>35007890
>Big dicked men with an abundance mentality who also think like this flat out do not exist.
It doesn't matter if they exist or not, the point is that one can't partake in silly 'gotcha' only to be countered by a similar 'gotcha'. I need something stronger.
>impossible standards
But we all know that this was an absolute, bare minimum standard just 50-60 years back and was the case even before that. Times have obviously changed, but given the fact that there had been a very long history of this "bare minimum" requirement across many societies & cultures, he seems to find it hard to accept anything less than this bare minimum. It's almost as if he finds it already humiliating enough to bow down to high demands that a lot of women are making all the while being promiscuous.

My advice is that you mind your own business instead of trying to live vicariously through your brother.

>>35007942
He is a good man and I don't want him to waste his life

>>35007950
>I don't want him to waste his life
Is chasing pussy in his youth really the best possible use of his time? Is that the only measure you have for his "success" in life?

>>35007950
My statement remains the same. Were your positions switched, I will assume you would hate him trying to push his values on you.

>>35007955
I mean, he could be missing out on decent(?) women who just so happened to be women with a past. Besides, the dating market only goes from bad to worse as one ages even when one discounts the current cultural degradation & trust of our society or the demographic decline that has been happening for some time. So yes, he could be out there actively trying to find a decent enough wife instead of being so hellbent on only wanting virgin women.

>>35007752
absolutely ultimate based
kill whores
no hymen no diamond

>>35008034
absolutely pathetic.
What has virtue got to do with the virginity status of a woman?

This is a bait thread created by virgin incel OP who just wants to create a thread of shitflinging.

>>35008086
>What has virtue got to do with the virginity status of a woman?
Loyalty, restraint, delayed gratification.

>>35008102
You can be a non-virgin woman and still be loyal af retard.
>>35008093
kys

>>35007752
There are a couple of options here:
>He's super religious (you would know if this was the case. I mean a full time participant in church life, not bullshit tradlarp "religious")
>He's fucking loads of women (you would know) and he's just the eternal bachelor type
>He's secretly gay
>He's autistic and therefore fucked on the dating scene
It's one of these four, guaranteed. No one with options in their late 20s is holding out for muh virgin waifu because they're just too mega based. That is pure redpill fantasy.

>>35007752
Weak bait. Very weak.

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>>35007752
Your brother is a based lad and y'all very likely had a non-whore, non-cuckold parents alright.

>>35007752
Well, I don't think he's entirely off the rails as you may think. I do believe that having that standard is hard to fulfill, but not unfulfillable. I've got plenty of friends that, just out of trying their luck, ended up with virgins as their current girlfriends.
If he's good looking enough, it'll work out for him eventually, unless he's too autistic to make it happen.

One should take into account the girl's past, but to an extent. You can't fucking discard her because she had 2 serious boyfriends at 25 years old?
If a girl has 10+ body count then that's a hard no, or whatever number you want, 5, 4, 3, but this amount should be tread carefully, specially if older.
If he doesn't want to fuck as many women as he wants while he's still young, then let him be. Not every single man wants to maxximize their body count

Virginposter evolved.
Keep the demoralizing train moving

>>35007872
>I tried to gaslight him by saying
Ai would do a better job writing your posts.
Please never have sex. Women lie about their bodycounts just so your genes die out in a few years.

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>>35009453
>You can't fucking discard her because she had 2 serious boyfriends at 25 years old?
Cuckold or a whore.

>>35009501
I hate non-virgin females as much as the guy next door, but it's unpractical to just close up to them

>>35007752
you can't change him as revulsion for hoes has more to do with the extended immune system overfunctioning than "insecurity" or whatever crap cuckolds and whores peddle everyday.
>>35009742
Nta, but it's pathetic of people to be this desperate that they'd rather sacrifice their values & legacy than live by them. Would u even be able to digest the notion that ur own boy will come out of a vagina that other men used as a masturbation toy?
I suppose the visceral disgust/discomfort that men have for non-virgin women stems from these sorts of unconscious gut feelings, even if these gut feelings aren't visualized or put into words by those experiencing it.

I'd be careful about wishing for a virgin woman. She may be a nightmare on an entirely different level. Obviously don't date someone who is promiscuous to where she won't stay stable with you. But however a woman who is a little bit bad isn't gonna mind a few things about that are a bit bad compared to this uptight woman who will demand you throw everything you loved: that Sci Fi games you like *trash*, your friend you drink with on the weekends *trash*, your guitar you play with to make these death metal songs you loved *trash*. What do you get in return? A bible and a dress shirt to go to church on Sundays and go home to mow the lawn working a job you hate to then see your wife yelling at you for not fixing up the house nonstop to oblivion. A fucking miserable life. Here's the best alternative: A woman who finds you when you are playing your music and wants you to rock her world. BINGO.

>>35009759
>other men used as a masturbation toy
do you think that a failed, serious past relationship with a man falls into this category of being used as a cum dump? Because I'm not talking about whores, and certainly a couple past serious relationships doesn't make a girl a whore, right anon?
>sacrifice their values & legacy
when the so-called 'values & legacy' become a real-life unfulfillable nightmare, one should ask if themselves if they are worth fighting for, or are mere chimeras.
>visceral disgust/discomfort that men have for non-virgin women
I get that feeling too. But guess what, living by what you feel is not the best choice.
Plus >>35009763 makes a great point.

You can blame a girl for being a whore. You can't blame her for falling in love in past times.

>>35011145
>and certainly a couple past serious relationships doesn't make a girl a whore, right anon?
It kind of does which is why you don't have sex before marriage.
>Divorcees?
It's why divorced twats should marry other divorced twats, sterilize themselves, and hopefully don't end up churning out any more degenerates than necessary
>muh pragmatism
Speaking of "pragmatism", do you want to leave behind a cucked legacy? What sort of desperation is this even that you'd rather choose to dishonour your children?
>living by what you feel is not the best choice.
In this case, it is the best choice from the pov of pragmatism & idealism.
>"lovers" are not whores brooooooo
sure broooooooooooooooooo, bet your momma had the same excuse before popping you out broooooooooooooo

>>35011214
I knew you were baiting fucking mongrel, u had me in the first reply

>>35011237
>b8ing
wut?
are you op now playing 10d chess games?

>>35011240
if not baiting, then read Don Quixote, you'll save yourself a lot of trouble. good bye

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>>35007752
Even though this is bait your brother is right and you are wrong and he is a chad and is taller than you
please see the pic related for why he is right and you are wrong
Fuck You
Sincerely, anon

>>35007752
It's best you leave your loser brother alone. No woman should be spending time on 20+ virgin subhumans
>>35015869
dicklet, manlet, hairlet cope

>>35016979
you got to be fucking joking
OP is the one that is shorter than the brother
you can't turn a hoe into a housewife
is there some sort of limit on the number/'past' what number is too much
have some fucking self respect

Now watch the part where he finds his 20-year-old virgin girl, he fucks her, and he either drags her around for 10 years without marrying her or he dumps her after a few months and says "She was just a practice GF". Then he'll probably start visiting the prostitutes which is the usual autism modus operandi. He will claim a girl with a body count of 2 is disgusting get pay money to fuck the paid hooker with a body count of 2,000. You can't do anything to wake him OP, he is...

...El autismo Diablo....

>>35017666
OP may very well be a secure, liberal minded woman and not a pathetic moid. Moids cannot empathize
>>35018031
This, but I doubt women would even want to fuck a 20+ year old subhuman, virgin loser. Besides younger men who're 18 or 19 are more virile, sexy and well endowed unlike older scrotes who hit the wall as soon as they reach 24 or 25.

>>35007752
your bro in insecure.
you aint gonna cure that insecurity through force.
has this translated into a hatred for women? or does your bro just have an impossible standard and is ok with being alone. because sometimes people are just ok with being alone. sometimes its better for people to be alone.
Like how many women friends does he have?

>>35018039
>I doubt women would even want to fuck a 20+ year old subhuman, virgin loser. Besides younger men who're 18 or 19 are more virile, sexy and well endowed unlike older scrotes who hit the wall as soon as they reach 24 or 25.

Aww look at you femanon, reversing the way life is to lash out. So cute!

>>35018146
oh look, an insignificant genetic deadend is talking

>>35007752
Don’t be petty enough to try to tear down the Champ. Go to hell, you miserable bitch.

>>35018245
Watch your tone. Unless you have a marriage and children, you don't get to call me a genetic dead end. I've passed my genes on. Now what about you, femanon? Has your big day yet?

>>35007752
He is based

>>35008149
you can also be a murderer and loyal af, but you dont see companies hiring ex convicts now do you. if you or your brother are religious this is a completely normal standard to have, and the standard almost all your forefathers held and they got their virgin wives. imagine working harder and being better than your great grandfather for women 4 times worse than your great grandmother

>>35009453
why should I be unhappy to someone else happy?

>>35007763
I at a Catholic college, 18-22 year olds, and I would say 60% (on the lower end) are virgin women

all the gaslighting bullshit and general BPDisms ITT prove why men are right to avoid promiscuous sluts.
it's like something in a woman's brain breaks when they give a man their body and he still decides they're not good enough to marry

>>35011145
anyone who isn't married and has sex outside of marriage is a whore. that is what the word etynologically means not exactly prostitute.

>>35007779
Why would he not go for 18 year olds?

>>35021068
nta but don't you think virgins between 23 to idk 28 are the best, simply because they're young enough to have healthy children and still disciplined enough to have protected their virginity. In the same vein, a 30 year old virgin woman is infinitely better than a 20 year old ran through whore

>>35015869
Snowflake plug?

>>35018245
Foids cannot meme.

>>35025992
While the majority of moids can't even breed. LMAO

>>35007752
Is he virgin?

>>35030138
yeah

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>>35007752
I can tell that "your brother" is 100% (You) because the virginity-obsessed type of incel who always posts about this also describes himself in the most generic non-descriptive way like

>hello fellow humans, I have a job and I have height measurements, this is all that women should need to know to choose me as their mating partner.

No personality, no real lifestyle, no hobbies, no interests. Just an empty suit. Your poor fellas describe yourselves at most like someone applying for a university or a bank loan. Like what the fuck do you even do on weekends for fun?

>the modern dating scene

that also really boils my piss, the only people who should be able to talk about the modern dating scene of the modern world today these days is people over the age of 40. The dating scene has been the fuckin exact same thing for 15 years now, and it wasn't all that different 20 years ago either.

Cell phones and social media weren't created in 2016, even 20+ years ago you were at a disadvantage and it was a red flag if you didn't fuckin have a myspace page.

"your brother" would have been a kisslesss dateless and also friendless loser 20 years ago just the same, it has nothing to do with modern society and women these days and cell phones bad.

and on the topic of being a virgin, I don't really care. If anything it's actually a red flag if a girl is a complete virgin past the age of like 25 and hasn't had at least one attempt at a real relationship or a practice boyfriend like a normal adult. Either she was ultra-molested as a kid and/or some other shit happened to make her asexual or something.

Of course some giga slut who's fucked 1500 guys isn't attractive either, but most women are normal women who have only been with no more than a handful of guys past college age.

>>35031090
You're a retard, shut the fuck up.

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>>35031110
literally just get a personality and a lifestyle though.

Stop trying to force yourself into normies clothes and what you think is a normie life where virgin women materialize in front of you once you make enough money at work or whatever.

Are you secretly an epic gamer? Good, lean in to that. You wanna talk about modern society? Gaming stopped being a shameful nerd hobby about 25 years ago. There's all sorts of non-ugly women who are into gaming now.

Same with anime. Although the normalization has been a bit more recent within the last 10-15 years or so - you can go talk anime with the sexy nerd girl who work at the gamestop counter.

Go be a metalhead mallgoth or something, or just a fitness guy who's into team sports. Go be a heckin upbeat redditor who gets married to some equally upbeat quirky chungus redditette

Anything at all - it's objectively better than being the guy who can only defined himself by his job and some of his physical appearance as it shows on his driver's license.

>>35031090
what's 'normal' or normative isn't good either. How retarded do you have to be to make use of this fallacy?

>>35007752
I don’t wanna hear these “Ima 40 year old virgin” stories anymore when there’s hookers all over the place walking around half naked. If you’re a virgin then go fix it then

>>35031090
>If anything it's actually a red flag if a girl is a complete virgin past the age of like 25 and hasn't had at least one attempt at a real relationship or a practice boyfriend like a normal adult
You mean like an average whore daughter birthed by an average whore mother and an average cuckold father like you?
>giga slut who's fucked 1500 guys isn't attractive either
so is any other ran through woman, but of course I don't expect children of prostitutes to know any better
>handful of guys
Look whore, I understand being a whore comes as a second nature to you as you were born into it just as almost every other whores and cuckolds in this generation. But OP's brother is based and seems to come from a decent family. I understand your jewish vitriol of wanting to taint other people's heritage & legacy because you yourself come from a tainted line.
>>35007752
Your brother is uber based. Better to die single and a virgin than a cuckold.

>>35007752
Whats wrong with not wanting a woman whos been absolutely pounded hard and fast and used as a fuck toy by other men, stretched out and taking hundreds of cum loads by other men. All men feel a visceral disgust. Marrying a virgin woman is so much better. Aint nothing hotter than hitting a virgin and knowing that pussy’s yours for life , no other nigga ever been in there and none ever will. Its a mental high that never leaves

>>35032229
>I understand your jewish vitriol of wanting to taint other people's heritage & legacy because you yourself come from a tainted line.
But that's you, that's what you do. You whine and nag at other people who start families and legacies because you don't have one yourself. You're the Jew.

>>35007752
>I fear there could be a lot of closet virgin fetishists that I'd imagined.


Its much more yeah. I was appalled myself when I overheard boys at work talk when they thought nobody listened.

Men are pigs ugh.

How can I explain to them that their "virgin ideal" doesnt even know what to do in bedroom?

I spoke with a friend I am strining along because he gets me weed and he told me he would totally bang a non virgin, even a single mother!

Why cant other men be like him. He is such a sweet man. Loving and considerate.

The virgin fetishist like you said (Stealing that one sis!) are insane. unnatural.

Women get better with age and miles of cock they took.

Simple as.

I married my husband when I was a virgin and we are still together. We arent religious but we wanted each other first to be the last too, ideally.

My friends didnt dig that and were shaming me for waiting but they all divorced and depressed.
We have 3 lovely boys and I wouldnt change it for the world.

Sure, at points I was tempted but Im glad I overcame.

Thing is, sex comes and goes, family lasts. From early on I wanted something better and different than my parents had (diverced early) and I promised myself not to repeat same mistakes.
His story is similar.

I dont look down on my friends but I definitely see they are not in a good place for all their freedom.

>>35033623
are you me? (well Im the husband lol but still)
We are waiting for our 3rd right now. Married when I was 25, she was 18.
Everyone thought it wouldnt last.
It lasts XD
Both of us were virgins. I faked I wasnt though. Just seemed safer.
Told her after we got our first child. It was utterly not important to her, but to me I wanted a virgin as I felt more comfortable since I was a virgin.
Turned out OK!

being a virgin has no inherent value for a woman

its easy for a woman to be a virgin, to protect herself, easy.

What is hard for women is to find someone willing to fuck em and dump em.

Ergo - the valuable thing is to fuck around and waste your youth.

THIS is what makes sluts more impressive IMO, as opposed to virgins.

Especially if a woman is attractive, emotionally healthy, and still a virgin - it means nobody wanted her.

If a woman is ugly but whore, it adds to her value. Because where one deer drank, others will drink too.

Untouched woman is creepy!!!!

Also - sex is complicated stuff, you need to have HOURS of sex before you learn to NOT MAKE FATAL mistakes!!!!

So a virgin is also a health hazard. Not to mention a whore will be vaccinated against many diseases of sexual transmitted nature - which benefits future possible children.

Virgin will not be vaccinated, ergo fragile!!!! Kids could be hurt!!!

Virgin = danger to the world. Lets be honest.

>>35033647
I agree with you man.

I once dated a virgin and she kissed awkwardly (not even kissed) and when We fucked I got BLOOD ON MY DICK!!!!


THAT traumatized me so much. To have my dick be bloody.... To see my pride and joy covered in blood.... I was ashamed as a man.
To look at my tool for penetration and find it has (gasp) penetrated and not even that - ruined a hymen!!!!

I could not look at myself in the mirror anymore. Someone so agressive, so deeply horny, I could do sucha thing as deflower a girl. And even teach her kissing - which took like 5 minutes of my time that will be forever lost - I couldve seen like 100 tik toks in that time I taught her how to kiss!!!! WHAT A WASTE!!!!

And lets not even talk how frustrating it was to fuck her - and she was "hurts it hurts" all the time. I felt so crminal. Why couldnt it be like fucking an empty sock? Nice, loose, and dry???

Why was she so TIGHT, WET; HOT and JUICY???? It was absolutely HARD to push my dick inside her, and that honestly made me feel so oppresive in this era, I felt so troubled after.

We are still dating.

>>35033613
dont listen to boys.

Its well known with men - a simple locker room talk.

I bet they would drop on their knees for a woman who had 30 men vs a virgin.

Woman who had 30 men is experienced.
And experience matters.

Woman with 0 men will be what? More clingy, more loyal, more statistically probably to form stable partnership.

Who wants that in 2026?

We want experienced women. In fact we want women who take charge, who approach men, who if possible - develop hyena like penis like vaginas. So they can fuck their men, peg em, establish dominance with experience and world traveled-ness.

NOW THAT! is a woman!!!

Well, that is maybe a man also but, bare with me. Im going somewhere with this.
Just dont know where....

I hear you OP.

He is past saving.

Im afraid next step for him is turning to Islam (fastest growing religion that very strongly emphasizes virginality) and growing a harem (realistic as muslim numbers rise and muslim dads DO NOT look favoringly on their daughters whoring).

Pity him and post more about him whenever you have time.

Also, he may have to marry a 16 yearold, but as a Muslim he will be excused and loved for doing so, even by feminists. Because Islam is very good for womens rights.

>>35007890
Prove it.

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>>35007752
Just tell him that the womb both of you came out of was very likely used by a bunch of other men and that the probability of something like that being the case is very very high and no amount of "I came from trad family" cope can prove that it's otherwise. Every woman was and will still be , a WHORE. This includes all of our moms, sisters, wives and daughters. IT IS WHAT IT IS.
"Troilus, farewell! one eye looks on thee, / But with my heart the other eye doth see. / Ah, poor our sex! this fault in us I find, / The error of our eye directs our mind: / What error leads must err; O, then conclude / Minds swayed by eyes are full of turpitude."

>>35031161
Go back to r/relationshipadvice please

>>35007752
>tall
>makes enou
he'll just marry a 19 year old, i don't see the problem

>>35007752
But he is right, why does Adam always have to suffer because of Eve’s choices?
Why is every “Christian” woman, not actually a Christian?

>>35007752
>I want to convince him that there's nothing wrong in dating & marrying a non-virgin woman
cuck
>but he is absolutely disgusted by the prospect of having children with these types
based
>He literally sees non-virgin women as whores.
that's what they are
>I tried to gaslight him by saying that it's objectification & dehumanization to categorize women with a past as vermins, but he counters it by saying that it's even more pathetic, lowly & verminous of men who marry ran through women, as such an act not only taints the man's honour, but also that of his would-be children. I also tried to shame him by saying that only insecure, impotent, non-masculine men care about a woman's past, but he won't budge.
lol, ok foid

he's right but it's extremely difficult
he's gotta go for young women or he won't find one

>>35007972
>who just so happened to be women with a past
Stop fucking using euphemisms. Every single time anyone has this conversation, they use euphemisms. I hate it. Tell it like it is. Those are women who had sex. Women who fucked other men. They sucked their dicks, they kissed them, they got railed by them dozens of times in many positions. This isn't a cuck fantasy post, that is just what sex is, it objectively happened if she isn't a virgin. And it's fucking disgusting for the love of your life to have done that with another man. The only way for anyone to be fine with it is if they pretend it didn't happen, which it seems most men do. Fuck off.

>>35011145
I don't think it makes her a whore, but it does make her a woman who got railed by other men for their pleasure. Whether it was in the context of a long term relationship that she wanted to lead to marriage, it doesn't matter. She had sex with other men. That's repulsive.

>>35018031
There's nothing wrong with having sex with a non-virgin. There is something seriously wrong with falling in love and marrying a non-virgin. It's significantly worse to be seriously dating a girl with a bodycount of 2 than to be paying a hooker for 30 minutes of sex that's just for pleasure and you never see her again. It's not even a comparison.

>>35011145
>>35043218
Also you're missing the main point which I think a lot of us believe. Is she even capable of love now? She's been with 2 men. She loved them deeply, and wanted things to last forever. She had intimate sex with them again and again. They spent years together. Is she a whore? No. Is she capable of a true, loyal, lifelong partnership? I really don't think so. That shit fucks with your brain. And it's also in many ways even worse that she was in long term relationships rather than whoring around - she wanted those things to last, and the only reason she's with you instead is because those men broke her heart. She still prefers them over you and if she could go back in time she'd probably wish for things to work out with one of them rather than ever meet you.

Seriously, it's the same shit. Whether a woman has a couple of multiple year long relationships, or she's just a whore, it ruins her. She's not capable of a serious long term relationship anymore. It has nothing to do with ethics, it just wouldn't work.

Women ultimately ruined everything they touched, from relationships, to culture, to society at large.

>>35007763
Not true go to Japan

>>35043229
Kissless virgin neet giving advice about women and dating: the post.

>>35007752
there's no hope for him. rope

>>35049012
>>35049032
>t.proud, beautiful children of whores and sissy cuckolds
Based. We need to encourage more men to accept sloppy seconds cuckoldry