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    Three going on fifty edition.
    The next 10 years will see Dan dominating sumo like nobody else ever has before

    >Banzuke:
    http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Banzuke.aspx
    https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoBanzuke/index/

    >Fight Schedule & Results:
    https://www.sumo.or.jp/EnHonbashoMain/torikumi/1/1/
    >Some sumo links and how to watch live:
    https://rentry.org/uwbgc88d

    previous thread >>265838
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    Dan is going to be on the cover of Sumo Magazine again
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    >>266853
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    https://www.web.nhk/tv/an/sunsat/pl/series-tep-QL31MN9ZQ4/ep/YL1VXR279L
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    Reminder to not suck Yoshi's nutsack.
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    What did people think of the other Yokozuna during Hakuho's run after Asashoryu retired? I started watching sumo the basho when Terunofuji retired so i never saw any of them. Im not just talking in their results, which i can look up their W/L record, but more in terms of their style while fighting and how entertaining it was or their overall personality how did people rate them?
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    >>266858
    Harumafuji is the smallest Yokozuna in history and roped on back to back zenshos during Hakuho's prime. That's all you really need to know about him.
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    Did Sumo Spirit delete his AI slop channel and remake it under SumoSpirit? I know for a fact I blocked the channel before but for some reason it was in my feed just now.
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    Why do they constantly change their names all the time, impossible to keep track of who is who
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    >>266863
    The new -fujis did it because Miyagino was officially dissolved and Hakuho's old deshi became official Isegahama dudes, and since Isegahama has a tradition of shikona ending in -fuji they changed names. Hakuoho still kept his old Haku- and Enho didn't accept the convention at all since he's already popular and not that long before retirement.

    If some 5th division dude changes his name you literally do not have to care.
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    >>266864
    My post was the result of discovering Kisenosato's name as an elder is Nishonoseki, but I was also aware that as rikishi rise through the ranks they do a regular name change sometimes, usually from a name that isn't their original name to begin with. So some of these niggas have like 4 names.
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    >>266861
    No it's the same channel. I've blocked it and lots of other AI slop too but they've been pushing this shit hard lately, especially AI music. I've gotten another sumo slop channel too called Sumo Flashback with the disgusting garish kind of AI thumbnails boomers love.
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    It's kind of a shame that Kisenosato didn't enforce a Kise- shikona on his guys since apparently that's a rare kanji. Onosato could've been Kiseryu or some shit.
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    >>266867
    >Kisenoryu sounds like kissing all of you
    Could've been so good.
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    >>266871
    >Kisenoryu
    >Kiseho
    >Kisekoku
    >Kisemi
    "Why is our stable so popular with overseas fans?"
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    >>266867
    He enforced nosato instead
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    >>266865
    Part of it is needing to earn a name, or superstition about sucking with an old name. Retired people change their name to the fixed stock names, which you could argue is good because it frees back up their old names.
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    >>266875
    He didn't enforce jack shit.
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    And if you don't already know, the shikona of Onosato comes from a combination of Daiki's favourite Yokozuna, Onokuni, plus his master's shikona of Kisenosato, resulting in Onosato. The shikona just happened to have been used by an Ozeki over a century ago so Kisenosato tracked down his ancestors and asked if he could give his deshi the shikona to which they obviously replied yes. Japan loves this sort of shit.
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    >tfw went to the store and they didn't have my brand of sumo
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    >>266880
    >When store brand is better than the expensive stuff
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    How frustrated and upset are the Dan haters right now as a result of Dan getting his 3rd yusho?
    Post you level of butthurt on a scale of 1 to 5
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    >>266889
    Nobody hates Dan. People hate that one faggot who gargles his balls and makes OPs too early just so they can have Dan images.

    Cleanse your mind with nuAsahi's latest glorious yusho.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iIoakQ72os
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    >>266890
    You fool, you are replying to the very person you speak of.
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    >>266891
    You're that one faggot who gargles his balls and makes OPs too early just so they can have Dan images?
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    >>266892
    Brother you've got the wrong anon.
    The gargler was the one who asked the question.
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    Fujinokawa needs to get on the roids
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    >>266886
    Is the leaf being stuck to the fish a good or evil omen?
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    >>266890
    You realize he does that because you get irrationally mad, right?
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    >>266895
    It depends, what was the moon phase and when did the lady next to him last have a period
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    >become the world's greatest sumo wrestler
    >your prize: you get to be in OP pic of 4chan threads
    worth it?
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    JSA just announced that Dan is getting promoted to O1e on the next banzuke
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    JSA just announced they are giving Dan the newly created DaiOzeki rank for the next banzuke in honor of his eventual roping
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    JSA just announced that all the wrestlers are getting a pay bump
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    Isegahama are the bad guys of the sumo world.
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    Chris said the yokozuna need to quit
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    >>266906
    Reading the comments makes me think that gaijin shouldn't be allowed to watch sumo.
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    >i went to retardville and oh boy you won't believe the sort of stuff they were saying!
    thanks for checking in, champ
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    >>266907
    Let the professional well-paid athletes rest for years, chud!
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    >>266901
    spiffy confirmed this
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    Dan haters have zero himkaku
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    JSA just announced they are throwing Ura into a pit in hopes to appease the evil spirits
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    >>266911
    Why is spiffy's "instant" banzuke video half an hour long? wtf is "instant" about half an hour?
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    >>266879
    >Daiki's favourite Yokozuna, Onokuni
    Wide as a pond, deep as an ocean
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    Koga's favorite Yokozuna is probably Futahaguro
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    Anyone playing uchinoheya? Trained a kid from aomori we won 27 yushos loved that mountain hill Billy.
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    >>266919
    Looks too bare bones for me, and not even in a good way
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    >>266919
    >Anyone playing uchinoheya?
    I finally understand the guy in the main /sp/ threads that gets so irritated and demands people "buy an ad". No. Nobody is playing the half asses AI slop game. Fuck off, buy an ad.
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    >>266917
    >大大の国
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    >>266914
    It's because he instantly spits the video out as a knee jerk reaction to the basho ending.
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    >>266917
    >they warp tool'd his belly
    lmao
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    >>266920
    It did just release so it would be
    >>266921
    >AI
    Some of the events did seem like it was written by AI

    I see sumo game I play simple but it helps to have an Imagination ill stay on the free version.
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    >>266928
    >Some of the events did seem like it was written by AI
    he admitted the whole game is AI vibe coded on r*ddit
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    >>266928
    I'm not paying 5 dollars for AI slop
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    >>266858
    >Harumafuji
    Very light for a yokozuna and very technical. Hit a slump when he made ozeki, but left no doubt for a rope promotion with double consecutive zensho. Had injuries, but wasn't quite as beat up as the others and probably could've earned a couple more yusho had he not been ousted. It's an open secret that he's been a shadow coach at Isegahama.

    >Kakuryu
    The black sheep of the Mongolian yokozunas. Good all around, but not really elite at anything. He definitely deserved the rank though, even if he didn't have the same highs as the others. His later career was marred by injuries (many such cases), but when he was on, even Hakuho had to bring his A-game to beat him. He is also the Mongol with the most hinkaku, being the only drama-free Mongol yokozuna. He is also known for speaking really good native-level Japanese.

    >Kisenosato
    While his yokozuna career was a trainwreck, he was one of the best ozeki around and would've easily roped earlier if he was in a weaker era.

    >Terunofuji
    Tall, huge, skilled, and monstrously strong on top of it. I assume you already know the story, but making it to yokozuna with the way his career went is already Hollywood worthy. Everything afterwards is gravy. One could argue he doesn't deserve dai-yokozuna status because his post-belt yushos were in a weak era with not lesser competition. I'd actually agree with that assessment, but he deserves a lot more credit than he gets for how he achieved those yushos. Hakuho in his final yusho still fought like Hakuho, even if he was at diminished capacity from injuries. However, Teru was so injured that he had to change his style and tactics multiple times to get his yushos, which often goes overlooked.
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    >>266932
    >a weak era
    I feel you have more experience than me, are we currently in a strong or weak era?
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    What do i name this guy, i was thinking Hakawooho but thats a little too furry adjacent right?

    >>266932
    >Terunofuji
    Do the injuries give him a little bit of a "what if" to his career? He still made Yokozuna but it really makes you wonder where he would rank all time if he didn't have his career completely turned upside down by the knees exploding.
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    >>266936
    Yoisho!
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    >>266934
    Medium era, potentially strong if the top of the banzuke gets their shit together.

    >>266936
    >Do the injuries give him a little bit of a "what if" to his career?
    I would say so.

    Shin-ozeki Terunofuji could compete with the elite of the day and even beat them, but not consistently. Maybe he would've grown and made it a 5 yokozuna era. Or maybe he only made it because those guys retired and he became a big fish in a small pond. Perhaps he became elite BECAUSE he got injured and was forced to work smarter, not harder. We'll never know.
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    asashoryu is so ashamed of his nephew's performance that he has completely given up posting about sumo on his xitter
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    New Dosukoi Sumo Salon is up
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    >the Paris episode
    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/shows/5001521/
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    >>266907
    This.
    >>266930
    >umm I actually did some things by hand! :)
    All AI jeets need to go on a rope run (forma vertical)
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    >>266957
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    >>266966
    I'd rather go intai than go to Paris tbqhwy.
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    >>266932
    >He is also the Mongol with the most hinkaku
    That would be Harumafuji who smacked a bitch for insulting Hakuho.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRs9vwopEvw

    Watch a pint sized Ozeki smoke his opponent and take them down to the clay.
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    >>266979
    Did he get into his kitchen and eat his lunch?
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    Has there ever been a bigger humiliation ritual than Horshityus yokozuna promotion.
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    >>266984
    Futahaguro's yokozuna promotion
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    >>266984
    Onosato "oh right, we forgot he could win matches" clapping
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    >>266989
    Hey, Futahaguro's final Ozeki basho was a 14-1D where he went through Asahofuji, Onokuni, and prime Chiyonofuji, falling to the latter in the playoff. What's crazier is Futahaguro had only actually been in Makuuchi for 12 basho before his promotion which I didn't even know until checking just now. I thought the record for rope from Makuuchi debut was Wajima at 15 but I guess not. They had every reason to think Futahaguro was going to win cups and if he hadn't smacked a bitch he most assuredly would have.

    Hoshoryu on the other hand has no excuse because there's no Yokozuna of Chiyonofuji's level dominating Ozumo right now.
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    >>266998
    >there's no Yokozuna of Chiyonofuji's level dominating Ozumo right now.
    Dan
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    Stop bulling my Yokozuna-Ozeki. Its not his fault the JSA panicked. What was he supposed to do, say no to the promotion?
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    >>267008
    should've spun 360º and went straight home to the steppeland.
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    If he hadn't been promoted he'd be Sekiwake rn.
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    >>267008
    Well he already showed he's willing to falsely drop out of the basho so that
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    >>267017
    >Haha I have an MCL injury but lmao wow I managed to last 13 days and the fusen just happened to go to my friend on his Yokozuna run haha damn that's crazy
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    >>267018
    This is the moment he went full heel. He got an undeserved promotion to zuna but you kind of felt bad for him because he was over his head. Now he is a loser trying desperately to screw Dan over cause he can’t beat him.
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    >>267021
    The promotion wasn't entirely undeserved but there's no real way of knowing since Hakkaku was desperate to have a Yokozuna for London.
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    >*dies of cringe*
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    >>267018
    mongols have no hinkaku
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    >>267021
    image how many kinboshers would being handed out if kiriSHITma as also a yzuna. there'd be joi dudes rolling up to the bashoes being dropped off by chauffeur driven gold plated rolls royces
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    >>267031
    yoshinofuji would change his shikona to yoshikinboshinofuji
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    >>267031
    everyone would want to be in joi, they'd all 7-8 on purpose to avoid sanyakoo
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    How do i become the next Aonishiki?
    Im already fat as fuck
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    >>267035
    Go back to your childhood and get into amateur grappling sports. Also be born with a squat physique.
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    >>266860
    He was one of the smallest and the most explosive Yokozuna, and had amazing Tachiai.
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    >>266860
    >Harumafuji is the smallest Yokozuna in history
    No.
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    >>267042
    He had the most acne scars, definitely the ugliest yokozuna until horseshitryu came around.
    What is it with mongs and acne? How come they're so unhygienic?
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    >no new Chris video today
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    >>267046
    Thanks for the update, I'm sure somebody here cares
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    >>266984
    His fans watching Dan ascend
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    All this Harumafuji talk is making me want an oatmeal cookie.
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1pYsvRE2EA

    Kiribayama...the good old days...
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    >>267058
    Kiribayama was always the better name too
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    >>267060
    As soon as you LARP as a Yokozuna you curse yourself. Just ask Kotozakura.
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    >>267061
    Not quite the same, the Kirishima name he inherited was Ozeki at their highest rank.
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    >>267063
    Hahaha you're right surely others who've taken on an Ozeki shikona have gone on to incredible things.
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    Nabatame beats all of them at the same time
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    >>267065
    wtf I just got recommended that video and watched it until it became comical since the bouts were so old
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    >>267065
    >onosato
    >star
    Ehh
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    >>267064
    meh, Kisenosato probably wanted "O=big" and "nosato" from his own name and only after checking in the books they found it was some taisho era Ozeki's name.
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    >>267066
    Don’t worry we will be getting some new matches next year when Niggatame gets to sanyaku.
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    >>267072
    he will be shat out the ass end of juryo same as the last two times he made the 2nd division.
    >doesn't have the makings of a makuuchi sekitori
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    >>267073
    False. Niggatame destroyed Asahifuji in their first meeting he just needs to work on consistency. He is on the good steroids now and is too strong for makushitters. I hope that you will ha ve the humility to post your apology to niggatame when he makes Makuuchi.
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    >>267073
    The last time he sat out due to injury, and had proven he can put up good records there by then. Unless you mean he explodes his other knee.
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    >>267073
    Nabatame and Kazuma will rape juryo from both ends.
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    KWABatame finna get his ass beat by juryo again lmaooooo
    futamaGOYs chimpin out
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    whens the next Chris video coming out?
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    >>267071
    It's Onokuni + Kisenosato.
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/Sumo/comments/1vdrd9c/yoshinofuji_struck_by_earthquake_in_kumamoto/

    Yoshi almost killed in an earthquake while visiting family.
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    >>267083
    RIP Kusano.
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    >>267083
    someone post the sanyaku shiko shaking the camera last basho
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    >>267077
    >again
    That didn't happen last time he was there tho. Why does this thread hate trannytame so much?
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    >>267083
    >>267086
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    >>267088
    NTA, he's clearly an idiot, but to be fair, Nabatame didn't exactly to great.
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    >>267090
    Shiko... strong!
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    >>267091
    Looks like a textbook case of a youngster climbing steadily. Don't forget he took Asahi's scalp and that's a guy who trains and beats joi level rikishi.
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    How does he keep getting away with it?
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    >>267094
    He's gone at least a month without smacking a deshi in front of his supporters.
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    >>267083
    Kami-sama clearly favors Dan. Fishlips gonna get struck by lightning next
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    >>267096
    After WTK's hometown ate shit to a quake he won his first yusho after being filled with fighting spirit wanting to lift everyone's spirits. If Yoshi was ever gonna break out it's next basho or never.
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    >>267097
    Wtk sold his soul to some yokai, hence the compartment syndrome
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    >>267101
    And you think Yoshi hasn't sold his soul?
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    Aonishikis foot is in very bad condition. Its over for Aonishiki
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    >>267105
    He'll never get more wins than Hosh or Sato at this rate. And a yusho? Out of the question.
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    why do we hate fishlips again seems irrational
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    >164 cm 86 kg
    Could you beat him?
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    >>267107
    We don't, it's just the casuals who don't rate a Maegashira yusho.
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    >>267083
    Omens like this are important, he should change his name back to Kusano.
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    >>267105
    virgin dan vs chad hosh
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    >>267094
    I wonder who the biggest/heaviest rikishi with a good henka is
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    >>267109
    thought it was because his mom is korean. well I like fishlips jr he seems like a good sport.
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    >>267114
    There was this fat sack of shit.
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    >>267091
    Oh, I thought he started sitting out after the 11-4. Oops.
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    The problem with Kotosh*ho isn't that he won a yusho but that he went straight back to sucking shit after it.

    >Immediately goes makekoshi twice
    >Makes Sekiwake from outside the joi because there was no one else for the position
    >Only retains the spot because the entire Sanyaku was kyujo in May
    >Kwabs the moment they're back
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    Daily reminder that asterisk posters are gay as fuck.
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    In September you're gonna see what a real 8-7 Sekiwake machine looks like.
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    Right mawashi, wrong rikishi.
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    >>267129
    his body is young and agile
    his face...
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    >>267130
    His face speaks of an age not yet lived and a wisdom not yet cultivated.
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    >>267128
    7-8 with a funsensho against one fo the zunas
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    A million dollars or the chance to sit at this table?
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    >>267141
    Only if I can sit next to Kakuryu.
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    >>267141
    Million dollars
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXOYec4CEMQ
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    Imagine yusho-ing as ozeki and still not getting the top spot.
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    >>267117
    Counts as henka I guess. More like a slap down, too slow and fat to dodge.
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    >>267147
    >what is YO
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    >>267117
    2026 Atamin would tank that and escort the fat hamster in 2 seconds
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    >>267117
    >Gets up
    >Moves to side a little
    >Waves arms
    >Sweats bullets
    Now thats Takakeisho
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    >>267151
    It's a damn shame that Wakanosho imploded.
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    >>267151
    Look at him at about 5 or 6 seconds in. His breath is heaving, and all he's done is a few shiko at that point, lol.
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    >>267158
    the butsukari pose always gets me. kino
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    >>267158
    Rikishi warm up extensively before their matches. Can you really say Takakeisho was doing anything wrong in that? Dude was a skinny kid who won 4 yusho as a bloatlord, let him breath heavily.
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    >>267160
    Anon, he was sitting on a cushion for 10 minutes before his match. He shouldn't be out of breath from that even if he was warming up earlier.
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    >>267161
    What's your point? That he didn't win 4 yusho in under 5 years?
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    Fuck Takakeisho and fuck Takakeisho apologists.
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    >>267162
    That he was a fat fuck.
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    >>267163
    MORE YUSHOS THAN MIENOUMI, FAGGOT
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    >>267162
    His point was that he was fucking shit, lol. He was never going to rope.
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    >>267162
    >he didn't win 4 yusho in under 5 years
    Correct, it was exactly 5 years, not under.
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    >>267166
    He was within a single bout of rope. That isn't "fucking shit".

    >>267167
    His 1st yusho was 11/18 and his 4th was 09/23. That's explicitly under 5 years. You're insane, stop talking.
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    >>267168
    No, it's exactly 5.
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    >>267168
    Retard.
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    >>267168
    How are you 18+ and you don't know how to count?
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    >>267171
    9<11

    Oh wait you're American so those numbers send you into an emotional frenzy.
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    >>267172
    The final basho of the fifth year since his first yusho is, in fact, a full five years. Going to 11/23 would be over five years, because it dips into the sixth year
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    >>267173
    >Too many drops of sweat, 2/10 wouldn't promote to Yokozuna
    This is you.
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    >>267174
    I'm glad you accepted my concession that you were incorrect and in a fit of childish angst pivoted to assuming I think Takakeisho was a shit ozeki, and that that constituted some sort of defense of your argument. That was the first time I replied to (You), and this one'll be the last
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    >>267173
    This guy gets it.
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    >>267174
    >This is you.
    It may not be him, but it's certainly me. Too sweaty, too fat, one-trick pony.
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    >its Aomoriover
    nishkifuji died of a heart attack
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    >Makuuchi wrestler Nishikifuji withdraws from summer tour after being diagnosed with atrial fibrillation
    Who?
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    >>266865
    >discovering Kisenosato's name as an elder

    Think of a sumo stable as a clan. The elder names represent the clan, so when a rikishi retires and assumes the head position of the clan, he takes the name of the clan. Meanwhile, the individual wrestler has an individual name that is a reflection of that clan. The individual wrestler's name can change, but the clan name always stays the same. That is, until the clan is disbanded for some reason, of course.
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    >>267180
    The fifth best wrestler from isegahama
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    >Isegahama are about to have TEN sekitori.
    Starting to approach some old-school Dewanoumi levels of dominance.
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    How far would this guy get and what would his shikona be?
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    >>267188
    Same question, but the lady in the red scarf.
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    >>267188
    Yokozuna, 白鶴竜
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    >>267191
    lol, but only if it's read "Hakukaku..." because that makes me chuckle.
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    lol
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    Fatslap.
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    Hakuho was worse than Asashoryu
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    >>267195
    why didn't he sidestep
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    >>267196
    who the fuck did he do this against?
    I can't tell who that is
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    >>267201
    Yoshikaze
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    >>267201
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdyT6KNqFIs
    Yoshikaze. Kyushu 2017.
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    >>267196
    Gyoji should've taken out the knife
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    >>267202
    >>267203
    good fucking god that's even worse than I thought
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    >>267196
    I don't get what he's doing here. Telling them he disagrees with the loss?
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    >>267206
    He thought it was a false start (it wasn't). Tried to call his own matta after the fact. No dice, gaijin.
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    >>267206
    Previously, Hakuho while sitting ringside called a mono-ii in a bout between Goeido and Kakuryu. This is (or at least was) completely allowed because by rule (unless they changed it) a mono-ii can be called by the wrestlers sitting ringside, it's just considered bad form to do so because then they're showing up the ringside judges. It also wasn't the first time a wrestler did so: Takanonami once did so in a bout between Takatoriki and Tosanoumi.
    Hakuho, being smart enough to know obscure rules but dumb enough to not know when to apply those rules, believed that this meant he could call a mono-ii on his own bout, when the rules did not allow for that at any time.
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    >>267203
    >>267207
    ??? But he's the one who went first. Was he trying to false start as some power play and then lost because he didn't actually mean to start, and then tried to claim that they should call matta against him, the loser? That's some major faggot energy
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    >>267207
    >>267209
    I've never actually seen anything where he said his reasons for trying to call the mono-ii, so I assumed he thought Yoshikaze touched down before Hakuho went out of the ring.
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    >>267210
    I recall seeing him quoted as saying something along the lines of "anyone with eyes could see that was a matta," but I can't for the life of me find the source now.
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    >>267209
    No, it was a good tachiai. Yoshikaze already had both hands and the dirt and moved forward just as Hakuho did. I have no fucking clue what was going through that Mongol brain.
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    >>267212
    I can see Hakuho galaxy-braining that he was at fault for a matta, under the logic of he started too early -> he held up assuming the gyoji would call it -> he was unprepared for Yoshikaze's counter charge. He'd still be wrong and dumb but that's Hakuho for you.
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    >>267206
    He's trying to call a monoii on his own match when the only two people who can't do that are the guys in a match. Not even Asashoryu did that in his Matrix match against Kotonowaka and that was a howler of a call.
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    Technically the gyoji(s) also cannot call monoii.
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    Can I call a monoii
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    >>267216
    No Kirishima it's too late, you should've done it right as Dan pulled Gonoyama's hair.
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    Rikishi in a match are allowed to agree to a matta and restart, Kotoshoho and Shishi did it recently. Gyoji gave the go ahead but they stopped fighting and agreed to restart.
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    >>267188
    Are you allowed to grab other players arm? I don't watch niggerball
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    When my dick gets up it feel kimochii
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    >>267220
    No, why?
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    >>267225
    Is this before sumo became bloatlord escape sport?
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    qrd on why everyone hates takakeisho? I didn't start watching sumo until the basho he retired basically. I'm a weab and have enjoyed his commentary on the oyakata yt channel and whenever he's on abema, but idk much about his career other than the playoff against atami that gets posted here a lot and the fact that he was a push thruster.
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    >>267196
    I dont know how i would've felt about him if i was watching Sumo at the time. He seems like he could be such a fag at times.
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    >>267228
    He is the best sumotori of all time. High ego comes attached.
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    >>267227
    People "hate" him because he was very one-dimensional, but extremely good at what he did. He also was going to lose extremely likely if his opponent got grip of his belt. Plus winning 11-4 yusho with henka didn't really help his image.
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    >>267230
    I guess it's not common for guys with that skillset to reach ozeki?
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    >>267229
    >it's ok because he was good
    Why isn't every other dai yokozuna like this then?
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    >>267226
    No.
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    >>267227
    One-trick pony.
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    >>267238
    I don't see the issue with playing to your strengths, especially when you have short arms like him. Do people call guys who only do yottsu one trick ponies too?
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    >>267239
    >I don't see the issue with playing to your strengths
    I'm not saying HE'S a bad guy for doing it, it's just boring as fuck.
    >Do people call guys who only do yottsu one trick ponies too?
    Guys like Umeyama who can literally only yorikiri, yes. Guys like Wajima who have a number of moves in addition to the Golden Left, of course not.
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    >>267239
    It's not about playing to your strengths is about not addressing your weaknesses even when you're competing at the highest levels.
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    >>267238
    But people like Daieisho and he's never laid hands on a mawashi in his life.
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    >>267234
    Because these “Daí” Yokozuna were average and are “Sho” compared to Hakuho. The record shows itself. To be great you need ego and real life is not science fiction. Another reason is that he is Mongolian and not Japanese, plays a role, no matter how small.
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    >>267241
    That makes sense if you assume he never even tried to get better at grappling, but it seems unlikely.
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    >>267246
    >he is Mongolian
    yeah pretty sure this plays a much bigger part than some magical ego only great athletes are born with kek
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    >>267245
    Daieisho a bull.
    Takakeisho a froag.
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    its up
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS9PD6z-iCk
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    >>267250
    Mitakeumi quitting before banzucky could land Asahifuji in Juryo.
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    >>267229
    Dan is better
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    >>267229
    >>267246
    Hakuho was a lot more humble when he was the unchallenged record-breaking dai-yokozuna. His ego inflated to hell when Harumafuji, Kakuryu, Kisenosato, and Terunofuji were ascendant, and Hakuho started to get more frequently injured. It wasn't deserved ego, it was being overly defensive because he knew he was in decline.
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    >>267253
    Eh, not sure I completely agree with that. Take a look at his 2010 win streak. He was doing late pushes and bullshit back then too.
    You're right in that it probably got worse as time when on, but he was always a dick.
    I mean, look at this faggot.
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    So they're making an exception for Asahifuji and letting him do sparring matches with Makuuchi guys on tour? And he's beating their asses? Can't imagine lending Gonoyama's chest was too hard for him since he has Atamin in-stable and stern disappointed glares for any failures.
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    >>267251
    banzucky is decided a day or two after the tournament ends. If he intai'd now he would still be on the banzuke for september
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    >>267259
    What exception? He was doing butsukari with Hoshoryu before the July tournament.
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    >>267260
    Incorrect. The banzuke is written before the next tournament. If you retire before then, you will not be on it.
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    >>267261
    That wasn't an official tour session, it was just Isegahama hosting an open session iirc. Maybe this is a sign they're willing to bend the rules to try and get him into Juryo this time round.

    >>267262
    An intai seems pretty easy to account for, just nudge everyone below half a rank up, unless they're a sekitori holding rank on 7-8 in which case sucks to be you.
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    >>267263
    Again, what rules? He's a new Juryo guy. It's not uncommon for that to happen.
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    >>267264
    As it stands Asahifuji won't be Juryo next basho.
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    >>267263
    >it was just Isegahama hosting an open session iirc
    Sakaigawa
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    >>267266
    Ah, I just saw Teru blocking the camera and assumed since Isegahama is a big enough stable to host something like that.
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    >>267267
    That doesn't make any sense, but okay.
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    >>267263
    >An intai seems pretty easy to account for, just nudge everyone below half a rank up
    What does that have to do with it? If you retire between the end of the basho and the release of the next banzuke, you aren't on it.
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    >>267265
    Close enough though. Still not uncommon for makushita joi to spar durking the sekitori session.
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    >>267269
    The train of thought was that since Asahifuji is rumoured to be Ms1e next basho, if Mitakeumi were to go intai now it would push Asahi up to Juryo (and basically save two months of his life).
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    >>267227
    There are a couple posters who post negatively about every rikishi.
    Don't take it seriously.
    It's honestly insane he was as competitive as he was. One of his nicknames was Sumo Genius for a reason.
    The people harping on his obvious health issues are doing so because they have nothing else to latch onto and they think it's some sort of "gotcha" that makes them right. In their minds, every single rikishi is the worst of the worst and any kind of positive viewpoint is insanity and must be attacked.
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    >>267272
    There are plenty of rikishi new and old that I love. Takakeisho was a waste of space.
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    >>267271
    Oh, gotcha. You just responded to the wrong, Anon.
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    >>267273
    Cool opinion.
    My apologies for assuming you were one of those who are perpetually angry or disingenuously posting.
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    >that one britard who replies to every single post
    no flags on xs enables this type of compulsive behavior
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    >>267273
    Tacoqueso was far more exciting than the current predictable sanyaku, not one inch of his roundness wasted.
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    >Tacoqueso was far more exciting
    Hmm, I wonder what he'll do this time. Will he walk forward, or will he lose. WHAT A RUSH!
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    >>267277
    Also, he was a bit polarizing, so having someone to centre the hate was nice. It meant there was always something to look forward to in the sanyaku that stirred the spirit. Who cares enough about seeing kiri or zak or hosh or onosato fail/succeed at this point to give a rat's ass about their bouts in particular? I just want any of them to actually be good

    Like, I guess there's Aonishiki, but I don't think people have any issues with his sumo or him as a person and just want to watch him fail by proxy because D*nfags are insufferable
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    Who's a non sekitori shitter who you want to see as sekitori? I want umeyama because we need more autism
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    >>267280
    I'm hoping Wakamiyabi makes it. I like his brand.
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    >>267278
    >will he walk forward, or will he walk backwards?
    >will he lose like a bitch?
    >will he job for 7 bouts, then walk forward for 8?
    >will he go in low?
    >will [random maegashitter] job as soon as he makes komusubi?
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    >>267282
    These are the reasons I watch Koga. Not a fucking Ozeki.
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    >>267280
    Kamito.
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    Gunning says Dan will easily make yokozuna by January
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    >>267285
    >While in banzuke terms both yokozuna still outrank Aonishiki, it’s difficult to see a scenario where the 22-year-old won’t also reach sumo’s summit — and probably surpass Hoshoryu and Onosato in the number of titles won sometime in 2027.
    Dan already has more yushoes than horseSHITryu
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    >>267285
    hope he figures out how to put up a 13-2 first
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    >>267287
    he's had 4 11-4 and 3 12-3 so far. if the pattern hold up by 2029 he will only go zensho
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    >>267288
    >Dan zenshos the 2030s, wins 900 in a row
    imagine how much the anti-Danners would seethe
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    Nobody hates Dan. Everyone hates the faggot who rides his dick.
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    I hate both.
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    >>267285
    >Fastest Zuna promotion
    >Fastest Ozeki promotion
    >Second fastest Ozeki promotion
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    >>267292
    Wouldn't he still be beat by onofatso
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    Dan has more hinkaku than all of Mongolia combined
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    >>267294
    Hey man Asahifuji and Tenshoyama haven't done anything wrong yet. Asahi can't be in scandals because he's too busy slapping a wooden pole.
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    >>267293
    Not that Anon, but Onosato started at makushita 10 tsukedashi. Aonishiki started from maezumo.
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    >>267296
    Yeah but from entering makuuchi to zuna
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    >>267297
    Well yeah, but I don't think that was the intention of the post.
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    >>267296
    It took Onosato 13 basho to go from Ms10TD to Yokozuna. Next basho will be Dan's 13th from crossing the Ms10 mark. It took Asashoryu 24 basho from debut to rope, next basho will be Dan's 18th.
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    Neither will ever hold the all-time record.
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    The good old days when you could debut at Ozeki.
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    >>267300
    Asterisk cause most of the Banzuke died from cholera late 1915.
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    >>267302
    Would've survived if they'd kept competing, that way they could've used the dohyo to heal.
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    >>267301
    And yet Onishiki started from maezumo anyway. What a legend.
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    Churanoumi landing on Dan's toe was a straight up timeline shift in sumo.
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    Dan landing on Onosato's shoulder was a straight up timeline shift in sumo.
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    Both of these statements are true.
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    This statement is false.
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    Both of these statements are false.
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    All of those statements are open to interpretation.
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    Koga is god
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    >>267311
    Right now I'm reading Stranger in a Strange Land where a man from Mars forms a cargo cult where they call each other God as a greeting. So I guess in this context Koga could in fact be considered God.
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    >>267312
    >Stranger in a Strange Land where a man from Mars forms a cargo cult
    I think we read different versions.
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    >>267313
    Okay maybe cargo is the wrong word but it's obviously a cult centred around a dumbshit who doesn't understand human interaction. I still have 1/7 of the book left to read though I can't imagine it getting any better. It's a shame because I was genuinely moved reading Starship Troopers so I thought this author was better than this. God help Mike if he ever found hard drugs.
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    >>267315
    >a dumbshit who doesn't understand human interaction
    ... because he grew up on Mars where people are literally different. What the fuck exactly do you know about society on Mars?
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    >>267316
    I mean if you want my take from the book so far it's some weird critique on Communism where feelgoods are great until your money runs out. Mike's church and nest wouldn't work if he wasn't the richest man on the planet.

    He'd probably be a great rikishi too with his telekinesis.
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    Let’s talk Rikishi build and training. What makes Asakoryu be successful with his physique or others like The Meatball or Sakura-chan.

    Basically, will there be another Chiyonofuji or no.
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    >>267318
    Chiyonofuji only became successful when he roided out, changed his style to be more traditional instead of relying on flashy shoulder-destroying throws, and got lucky with Wakanohana II (to become yokozuna) and Kitanoumi (to become dai-yokozuna) declining and Mienoumi retiring.
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    >>267318
    An autist can come out of anywhere and dominate. Right now the guy to watch is Asahifuji. Don't be surprised if Teru calls in a favour with Daieisho and asks him to beat the fuck out of Asahifuji for a day or two to prep him on how to fight real fat slappers.
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    >>267318
    Yes. His name is Kotoeiho.
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    >>267319
    Why didn't anyone else get "lucky?" It's not like Takanosato and Hokutumi weren't jacked. I don't understand your logic.
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    >>267322
    Because it was one of multiple factors. If Chiyonofuji had gotten jacked while Wakanohana, Kitanoumi, and Mienoumi were all still active and healthy, he might still have hit a wall as very strong ozeki who couldn't have gotten over the hump. At the same time, having flashy throws early on also gave him a leg-up on his competitors, because he still had them in his back pocket instead of something he relied on. And his style wouldn't have mattered if he didn't bulk up. He needed all three to be as successful as he was.
    Tochinoshin might be a good example of it going the wrong way. He relied on using his bulk for flashy lifts that ultimately destroyed his knees too quickly. If he switched to a more traditional form of sumo with the lifts as a secondary move then his strength would've pushed him beyond the "flash in the pan ozeki" he ended up being, and might have pushed him to yokozuna in the late 10s when all the yokozuna were getting injured.
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    >>267312
    I read that book. Only the first half is good desu
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    >>267323
    Doesn't really answer the question.
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    >>267315
    Heinlein was a literal nudist free love hippy and it shows in his writing. Don't ever read the cat who walks through walls, one of the worst books I've ever finished
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    There's nothing wrong with being nude.
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    >>267326
    It's certainly showing in this book and it really is a shame because the message of Starship Troopers honestly moved me. So far I'd say the worst book I've read is The Alchemist. That or Forever Peace. Holy fucking shit that was so bad.
    >Lets force everyone on the planet to never want to be aggressive oh and btw 10% of the planet will die doing this
    >Hahaha yeah that sounds great btw I'm extremely suicidal and the women I'm in an open relationship with just fucked a dude in front of me so I'm going to go try and kill myself again
    >Btw there's a cult of superhuman assassins trying to end the world
    These books won awards. What the fuck.

    >>267328
    Context. Where are you nude? When are you nude? Who are you with when you're nude? Are there children around?
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    >>267330
    Yeah the cat who walks through walls doesn't really have an ending, and doesn't explain the entire beginning premise of the book. It starts with an assassination attempt and the investigation into it and somewhere along the way just forgets about it and then ends. Heinlein just got bored of writing it or some shit and just said fuck it
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    >>267330
    Prude.
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    >>267330
    >Shilling for Big Clothing on a Sumo thread.
    ISHYGDDT
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    I've never seen rikishi balls. I understand it happens, but maybe just don't look there
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    >>267334
    I heard Kazuma showed some side sack not long back.
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    >>267321
    2030 banzuke leaked from the time traveler
    Y1E- Kotozakura (the 3rd, eiho took the shikona after kotonowaka disowned Zak the 2nd), Y1W- Taiho
    O1E- Asahifuji, O1W Shishi
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    >>267339
    Nabatame is taking the shikona taiho?
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    >>267340
    M10E- Miyabiyama, M10W- Kazuma
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    >>267320
    Going by autism, Shishi would have made rope in 5 bashos.
    >>267321
    Fat and flexible, will never go higher than ozeki.
    >>267323
    Then Asakoryu is roiding? For his height, he is extremely jacked.
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    >>267345
    >>267345
    >>267345
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    >>267045
    >this was considered a peak rikishi build in 1901
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    >>267227
    I correctly surmised that HWNBAY (he would never be a yokozuna). However, he deserves his flowers for making it as far as he did. While the Sumo Genius moniker was semi-ironic shitposting at the time, it actually fits. His commentary is surprisingly insightful when it comes to oshizumo.
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