What's the best belt system out there?
>>261162beltless -> white -> blacknon knower -> knower -> knows enough to teach and compete
>>261162WhiteYellow BlackThrow in red if you want something cool, but nothing more!
>>261163i dont like this. most people dont know what theyre doing for at least half a year
>>261162No belts. Belts are a retarded scam designed for the sole purpose of selling retards shit they don’t need. It’s also notoriously widespread within the meme “martial arts”. Put your average karate fag with his black belt and gay robe into a ring with an experienced mma fighter and watch the larp end.Fuck belts.
>>261247They're a decent way to indicate skill/experience, which can be useful, for example when looking for a sparring partnerFurthermore, they're a good motivator for trainees - "getting better" is a very nebulous thing, particularly when you're comparing yourself against other people who are also improving at a similar pace. This way there is a "checkpoint" system, and something tangible to aspire to.>sellingnigga it costs less than a bigmac
>>261293i dont want to train with someone whos prime motivation is a belt. you either want to get better or you dont
>>261294Cool reading comprehension, grade school is over that way
>>261162In an ideal world only white then black. Maybe a middle rank to show progression. Belts are a fun system to track your growth but they do more harm than good especially the egos that come from dan ranks.
>>261294My prime motivation was the belt and I made it all the way to the top as a minimum effort boyIts not about who's best it's about who's leftCome late, roll light, leave earlyPeople way more talented than me came and went down in flames eventually because they tried hardAll that gets you is a blue belt and bad kneesBut now I have a black belt and just sit off to the side waiting to snipe people when they're tired and my legend continues to grow
>>261162I like Judo's systemThere is a set curriculum, and you have to demonstrate proficiency with said curriculum to advance. No subjectivity or arbitrary "I just don't think you're good enough yet".Granted, this may lead to disparities in actual performance on the mat, where a lower belt will be able to trash a higher belt, but imo it makes sense from the standpoint that belts represent your knowledge and understanding of the art, not your health, athleticism, natural talent etc which all impact how good of a fighter you are
MCMAP
>>261461Since judo only cares about your ability to answer a written questionnaire and demonstrate moves with a particular asthetic, there's no coherent argument anybody could make as to why a judo belt from the internet is less valid than one done in personSo that's exactly what I intend to do
never compete -> whitewin municipal/whatever -> yellowwin state -> bluewin national -> redwin world -> black
>>261483That's only up to brown. Blackbelts have to also compete.
>>262046The difference in population between places screws this up
>>262046You basically described the sambo belt system.
>>262046This but with some minimum population requirement
>>262116>>262121Nah, the point is when you compete the other guy is going full out. And when you go state it's the guy who won against another guy going full out. Impossible to equalize anyway, an underpopulated place could have a world champ living there or something.
>>261247Belts are based. Martial arts = sinking 100s of hours into suboptimally preparing for a scenario that is statistically unlikely. But if you get a belt on top, it adds a cool larp aspect. "John Doe, just a regular office worker, but secretly a karate black belt"
>>261162>What's the best belt system out there?gun belt
white = studentblack = masterthat's all you need. if you're still under a teacher you're a student.
>>261162wrestling lmfao
>>265516The middle colors mark instructors-in-training who can help teach the white belts. They also help in e.g. judo where the colored belts know they can throw each other safely but should make sure the white belt actually knows breakfalls well enough before yeeting him.
the japs and russians just have white brown and black
>>262103How can you compete when no organization recognizes the ranks?
>>270347>this
>>261247The hate-boner a lot of people like (You) have for karate specifically is very amusing to me. You can go to any karate video on youtube and be guaranteed to find at least one unhinged seething commenter saying some variation of>grrrr this shit sucks and would never work in a real fight. The only striking martial art that works is muay thaiAnd they're never by thais. It's almost always an american or a britbong actively seeking out and losing their shit at karate. Makes me wonder just how many americans were molested by Sensei Bob from the strip mall dojo in the 80s. That's the only explanation I can come up with for phenomenon.
