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testing the waters edition

this general is dedicated to the discussion of psi and related topics including ESP, clairvoyance, telepathy, remote viewing, astral projection and many more


QOTT: have you ever had a dream or vision that predicted the future?
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OP here

this first thread is probably not gonna be the greatest but hopefully I can offer a better opening as time goes by

I'm working on a pastebin of resources, name anything you'd want to see in it
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Imagine what would happen in today's day and age if someone overcame physical reality and it was televised.

Imagine what that would do to the world, in an instant. Those who are spiritual would instantly want answers and a path forward. Those who live in the material who seethe at God would go into a literal frenzy.

How could the world powers stop such an abrupt change to reality? How could they prevent the coming together of people, who now realize what they can be?
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Good
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>>43073698
>QOTT: have you ever had a dream or vision that predicted the future?

Many such visions, yes. Future predictions. Lucid dreams living through animals. Lucid dreams in other realms and dimensions. LDs witnessing myself in other timelines. Changing timelines while conscious. Having Lucid events while both asleep and awake.

Only the people that know me or of me would believe these things as truth. It would sound ridiculous to the average person.

Psi is an innate ability that is crushed on this material plane by intentional controls. If you understand those controls, you can overcome them. Psi becomes a natural side effect of that process. Peace be with you.
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Today again had an event completely randomly.
It was like I was in a dream, talking to a few people, seemed completely random gibberish, when I said I had to go back, and suddenly I was back at my bad and feeling the separation, felt like floating for a while and then drifting somewhere.
It was so out of nowhere, I remember thinking
>oh it one of these, well ok, just take me wherever
and then I don't remember much afterwards
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>>43073698
What are your thoughts on the nutrition and diet and how it may affect psi/ other things from the ether?
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>>43073698
ngl it feels like just memory but when i look back it really felt like a premonition as dumb as it it:
>dreaming, in dream see a commercial for new mario game mario and luigi bowsers inside story
>never seen anything about it first time i heard about it 100% remember i dreamt this
>next day see same ad, same game
>that christmas get a DSi with the game
given i was a kid i think i just saw that ad, forgot it, dreamt it then saw it again which made it stand out but it was still freaky back then
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>>43074084
diet and nutrition are very important in all parts of life

Unlimited caffeine and sugar can have a negative effect on your ability to practice mindfulness
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What do you guys think of energy cultivation? And how can you relate it achieving a vibrational state?
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I've seen visions of the future all my life, mostly braincells and other cells and atoms in beings of the mortal militaries who try to exercise powers against my plan, and the best ways to mutate them into submission, and the visions come true over and over. I have telepathic arguments with them, and manipulate everything from time and space to gravity so my powers overcome them.
Right now we need a lot more help protecting Earth from aliens, anytime your interested in that be my guest.
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>>43073698
My dad had a dream about my suicide the one night I actually hooked a belt around my neck and stood on a chair
Have had some other minor telepathy events where it definitely seems like I must have transmitted
Had some success with killing clouds after reading about that in Bengston's The Energy Cure, the most believable account of magic healing I've ever read (thanks dude from /LoA/)
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I practice guessing numbers with https://capaverde.github.io/guessnumber/
Or sometimes with a deck of cards I have, trying to guess the suit.
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>>43073698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrwAiU2g5RU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lv0gXL7RerQ
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>>43073698
we are all living on an extroadinarily flat platform about 600 ft long and 70 ft across travelling far _far_ (far) [far ..] faster than the speed of light in a future and a past more than infinitely distant from the period we are experiencing now .. there is no starlight in this place only metal fragments each larger than the entire visible universe that to us are microscopic streaming in fibres which compose the platform .. our bubble reflecting the metals from other realities and our actual bodies [which are drastically far from human] .. there are only 36 of us .. everywhen
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>>43073698
If you want to discuss and research these topics, you need to find resources for them, luckily I made a thread like this previously and gathered a ton of material:

Mega Version:https://mega.nz/folder/GYQhjABI#uIqhwSjWDykrBVMLUDa3DA
Google Drive Version:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1IVg2Y6YE-K1z1Kc3z5u5GarTWG4bi2gT?usp=drive_link

Sample Primer Audiobooks on OBEs:https://mega.nz/folder/nEwwCCxD#Ch7IJtoQ-pyL-q-mfiotGQ

Additional Resources Listed Here:https://pastebin.com/v8dBCLhN

Use these resources to your benefit
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>>43074024
If the supernatural exists, we likely already have ample videos and photos. People would just say it’s AI. Those who directly saw it would gaslight themselves into thinking they suffered from a hallucination, false memory, etc. No one’s changing their preconceived beliefs until (((the scientific consensus))) gives the greenlight
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>>43073698
dream cheat code escaping containment
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>>43081748
>No one’s changing their preconceived beliefs until (((the scientific consensus))) gives the greenlight

Thats only for people that believe in the scientific consensus and "trust the experts". For everyone else, it would be a wake up call.

Therefore, the most revolutionary thing to be done against this construct is to prove it is malleable and escapable.
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>>43073698
I have a Scorpio moon and feel like I know what people intend to do and think.
Sometimes I can predict the future in small ways when I dream.
I want to get into remote viewing and try to see if I’m capable of it.
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I can see a glow round my hands when i stare at them and move them.
Like some sorta afterimage, somewhat blue-green glitch

Am i already slightly sensitive? can i improve it and how?

Im looking into energy cultivation as well
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>>43087837
might be your aura
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>>43087865
How can i improve seeing said aura? ive often heard this type of thing is a ability that can be trained? Should I just stare at said aura?
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>>43073698
Yes but it wont happen in any of our lifetimes.

I got to see the final war. Not "armageddon". The final war takes place long after this iteration of the universe has dissipated to the point where a plank length in our perspective expands to the hubble volume from our perspective in this final universe.

The war is God against himself. And the result is the unmaking of time. Don't ask me what this means, I am a temporal creature and have no idea.
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After 5 months from most depressing of my life of pursuing astral projection I had 6 OOBEs where none of them have been good experiences.
The ultimate goal of mine is reality shifting into dimension of my destination precisely with astral projection.
I finally know what has been the problem.

I am preparing a guide of all experience I had and for it to be the most tl:dr guide while encompassing most information and acknowledgement of variables each one individual's body can have (I am actually extremely special in my regards of OOBE achievement for example that my personal method are practically nowhere due to me being unable to have sleep paralysis).

I unfortunately come into a conclusion of how a little intent that may seem insignificant can literally block you for 5 fucking months in such diseased reality this fucking one is.
I truly mean it in not that angsty of a way.
Have you been keeping up with mandela effect threads lately?
Depending on which ones apply to you, your specific line of consciousness that "you" are ended up in reality of rejects of low-vibrancy timelines of existence, and this one really is to it's utter core "nothing ever happens (except slow decay that won't collapse anything)" low-vibrancy hell.

I was led to think the culprit behind all cockblocks I suffer was horde of astral demons preventing me from truly having a positive experience and exploration but the reason actually seems to be far more dumb, cruel and stupid yet again...

It seems that I am mapping out the ultimate enemy that might prevent you from astral projection as well that very much is the "consensus reality" so to speak.

See.. one of the things I learned from browsing long time ago and archives from years back is that you can learn actually a mundane knowledge from the astral and try to apply it into real life.
It however seems that..
>You cannot do that here.
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>>43090668
You simply cannot and you have to leave or rather be truly done in "enlightened way"(be wary though, it can be one of most dangerous vibrational states despite being "the highest" considering it can genuinely loop back to "shame", the absolutely lowest vibrational state that actively makes you a dining for every low-vibrational entity around literally devouring your consciousness, do not let go of your "self" and "ego" no matter what anons, it very much is the definition of your "I") with this reality.
Infact I don't even know how bad the damage can even go with physical actions based reality with crazy schizo shit that happened to me but that's another story and one too long one that will simultaniously give me a lot of credibility and strip it all away at the same time. In retrospect when I'll be ready with actual good experience fully prepared to do my guide for you all it really is the only way this would pass to be, a rather most ironic blessing in disguise...

But getting back on track..
This specific reality will punish you and cockblock you if you plan doing anything of the astral and bringing it into this world, simply to fit with the retarded beliefs of the retarded collective.

To make the matters worse the "consensus reality" doesn't care or will obey to logic and reason in the slightest. It will like a gnostic boogeyman made real enact it's purpose however retarded onto you actively blocking your transcendence if you dare "interfere" with the physical reality it manages however dysgenic and cruel.

Personally I cannot reveal what I wanted to do myself or it would become a permanent energetic anchor that will stop my OOBE until it can be tracked to me or else I would have to give up a "compromise" I have reached.
But essentially you cannot learn playing an instrument in the astral and plan to apply it by showing others it without preparation to "excuse it" if at all.
You simply cannot bring to people of this reality things from the astral.
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>>43090668
>It however seems that..
>You cannot do that here.

Things are certainly more locked down here, but you can still break through.

You are not here due to something you did. You are here because of what you are. On a spiritual level, this is the final round. Anyone souled at this point has something to contribute. Peace be with you.
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I got drink and high tonight with people who's nervous systems I've altered using occult means who are falling asleep right now as my psychic and spiritual batteries. Over lived my every moment since conception planned. Perhaps out of drunken revelry I will destroy cells.
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>>43090688
>This specific reality will punish you and cockblock you if you plan doing anything of the astral and bringing it into this world, simply to fit with the retarded beliefs of the retarded collective.
Pfft. It will attack you for far less than that.
It's been dumping curses on me almost every year since I was born, just for being a pneumatic.
This world is an evil piece of shit.
Big surprise it would attack you for trying to make things better.
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>>43090688
what about dreams anon?

Dreams are your own personal space you control...
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>>43073698
>QOTT: have you ever had a dream or vision that predicted the future?
For some reason Ishtar appeared out of nowhere in a dream and sort of hijacked it, depicting a military attack on fucking Qatar of all places. This was months before Iran initially hit them, prior was generally accepted as a joke of a premise. Even the location depicted in the dream was nearby one of the few impact sites. Something worth noting is that it was extremely realistic where I never have realistic dreams, it depicted one of my windows shattering where I did find a window with a new crack in the aftermath. And I didn't really read into or know much about this being prior, nor did I attempt to summon, just happened and fell in line with her general depiction.

Well, the way the dream started was weird. Apparently I was reading a book I really shouldn't have had about blackbudget government programs, entered a chapter regarding occultism, then the series of events above quickly happened.
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>>43080879
Well no, I'm the version of the being stuck experiencing the shittiest perspective.
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I predicted an event would happen recently based on patterns in the past. Did shadow work, brought up dark things and addressed them...then expected backlash from Daedric forces like before. A couple of weeks pass, I've let my guard down and I'm excited about something I want to go to. I get randomly assaulted by someone I didnt engage with and kicked out. Same dynamic, same set up I predicted. Vermina is angry.
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Bump, feels like I've been in a bump lately
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>>43073698
If what I saw in my dreams was the future, then we are all in some deep ass fucking shit, I would rather just write it off as a extremely disturbed dream of a someone diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and hope I don't live long enough to see it happen.
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>>43101470
What color was the sky in your dream?
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>>43101515
don't know I didn't see the sky, I was watching as a large grayish black cloud rolled along the ground as two F117 stealth fighters flew out of it and landed like lawn darts in front of me,
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>>43101567
Well black clouds are in the future. So you are probably right. Don't be spooked.
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>>43073698
I feel this thread is low activity because an adjacent general is also up >>43084164
Would make sense for both of them to merge into one.
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For the past year, I've been doing focused monthly viewings with high accuracy. On random days, I get flashes of visions or words that don't make sense in the moment. Through dreaming, I've been able to uncover truths or see future events. Through these various avenues, visions manifest into the 3D reality within hours, days, or weeks. I'm also able to see what someone has come across, what they're doing, or a specific object in an environment all whilst I am not in those locations. I have had one too many statistical anomalies for things to be purely coincidence.
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>>43101573
I figure it was one of three or four events
a nuclear explosion
a meteor strike
a super massive volcano eruption
or a meteor strike setting off a super massive volcano eruption

we can only prevent the nuclear explosion

it was an evolutionary bottle neck leaving behind only goverment and survivalist who would start a war over the remaining resources and or turn into an extinction level event
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>>43106280
All I remember was the sky was mainly orange, with some purple and red. Black clouds. All I remember about that. The events you describe might of happened however I am not sure which.
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>>43106307
it happen just not yet, if we can not prevent we must prepare, thats what precognition is all about.
it allows you to prevent or prepare
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>>43106307
Likely you are describing wormwood. Its a meteor event but with very odd qualities. Some see 'stars falling from the sky', or meteors suspended in the atmosphere before crashing into earth. Purple sky. Odd colors. This is an event that will likely occur in 2028-2029.

Not much you can do to prepare other than finding high ground. Flooding will rearrange land masses.

These events were seen by thousands of RVs. It aligns with the prophecies as well.
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>>43108762
>Not much you can do to prepare other than finding high ground.

Not exactly the preparation I was referring to, if its as bad as I remember.
there still is a chance we can force our reality down one of the other paths described in quantum mechanics multiple world interpretation, however that's not gonna keep it from happening, but our consciousness’s that exist in this reality will not be aware of it

so that leaves a meteor strike
a super massive volcano eruption
or a meteor strike setting off a super massive volcano eruption

every thing that has beginning must end
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>>43110216
It is a timeline convergence. Different timelines are ending at different times due to causality, so we are moved here and do not experience it, but we end up experiencing it here anyways.

I cant speculate on why. I haven't been a terrible person or anything, especially compared to others. But I'm here and waiting for the show to start.

I am doing what I can to help people find the path necessary. No man can know the time, but we can know a range of time based on jubilees and ages. In my opinion, wormwood hits right on time, 2028-2029. Some time thereafter, most likely either shortly after or a few years later, the arrival of the Son of Man. Shortly preceding this, apocrypha tells us that time will shorten (already happening) and the moon will be disrupted. Extreme weather, calamities, then on arrival those who are able to transfigure will move on. Those who cannot will perish with the Earth.

You should be focused on being in group 1. There is no timeline sliding or quantum immortality that will allow you to avoid this outcome. Many have already moved on.

God is Love. Find and Be. I AM.

There is no place for Abrahamic deceptions any longer. It doesnt matter what you did, it matters what you do now, and going forward. Do everything in accordance with Love.
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Once again had a dream about this girl, must be the third already.
Whats the deal?
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>>43073698
anyone with psi abilities was weeded out in the west by CIA-operated GATE programs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JavPI3Iw7LE&ra=m
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>>43073698
Often I'll have immense de ja vu moments that I predicted. Is weird, like eventually I'll create a cool mech game, that's not crazy to guess, but my mind already knows what it looks like. Similarly I've predicted Megas XLR before it happened, and I don't know how. (Mech is on the mind). I can't really think of much else, but two reasons. 1. I'm smart. 2. I know how the world works and fix predictions to what I think would be cool/work or what people would do if they were stupid. Car on a robot is just awesome man.
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>>43110937
Anyone with psi abilities was diagnosed with a mental illness, admitted to a mental hospital, and placed under close observation. Prodded and poked, experimented with, their abilities repressed.

Their are no laws pertaining to psi abilities but that works both ways. Its only a matter of time before they end up being subjected to the experiments they have been preforming on others, AND if the experiments are SO safe....................................I can't see the problem.


Science marches on.........................................RIGHT

willing percipient MY ASS
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>>43110608
>the arrival of the Son of Man.
>There is no place for Abrahamic deceptions any longer.
pick one and exactly one.
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>>43090668
>>43090688
I return after 5 days of hell..
Sorry I was meant to return a bit sooner but needed time to rest.

To put things first.. I was getting psyopped and so are you.
"Reality consensus" really is a much different thing and won't cockblock your astral projection like I thought it would.

Infact I was on so much despair I was falling into an even worse psyop where this entire reality is a "punishment version" of consciousness past the temporal scale, each one of us being the version of our consciousness across the dimensions where we embody and suffer of the flaws of other us. So that when I was trying to make a guide for here with verified astral projection evidence, I would be literally dimensionally disallowed to do so because I would interfere with each on of yours "punishment"..
If you thought like this then you were getting psyopped and still are.
Because day after I was on the verge of astral projection again through daytime self-hypnosis. So much so was for "cross-dimensional punishment". I know my states best and the only thing keeping me from OOBE right now is external energetic influence which can be overcome with persistance.

This reality is nothing more than a low-vibrancy physical timeline filled to the brim in every corner with astral demons/parasites/low-vibrantional entities or whatever you want to call them.

They see you and every one of us as nothing more than food and they get it when we experience ego-death, suffer utmostly and experience all kinds of spiritual collapses.

I am a bit under the time pressure hence I was susceptible to this shit where I thought I will have to give up and give here all my information and everything I have gathered without confirmed estimate but I really don't have to give up. It's matter of days for me with my current strategy.
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>>43112220
The moment I breakthrough finally to have a positive experience I will idle around making threads to give even every one of you personal directions since it's really simple to me with journey I had to partake in since I have never experienced sleep paralysis in my life and it's the staple of all guides.
I did however have OOBE 6 times for sure.

If I'll visit the thread again feel free to ask anything now even though I have no definitive true experience but still want any personal advice to your own methods already if I'll be present to respond.

Do mind however this really is specific self-empirically to me since I will make sure to note in the big guide coming up that to make sure to not wake up near any astral demons you should attempt self-hypnosis in daytime where sunlight is present since low-vibrational entities for whatever reason cannot stand it and it really is the only way for me to breakthrough now with how personally I am suppressed...
I do however mind this is not the general consensus of community and I can very much be called a "fraud" by this statement I am too much aware of...
Which I am too self-conscious about but astral projection just as well really much is a field of self-empirical experiences on the other hand.
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>>43091915
>but you can still break through.
I thought this was the case that one can individually breakthrough but cannot "prove it" to others by arbitrary means.
However it seems to be bullshit and I may see your reply in different light considering it's rather just harder to do when being so targetted, either way thanks for the kind words.
>>43093051
Cannot help on that subject. Since years I had no dreams to really weak and shallow dreams.
At the very least I can say it's a statement that atheistic materialistic gaslighting Raduga is bullshit in my case.
I had my first OOBEs before I even began dreaming lately. And I learned it from other threads but Wim Hof's breathing can decalcify your pineal gland if you want more vivid dreams.

Then again.. I do not astral project by dreams but did research the methods of somewhat so check out Tibetian sources on this if you don't have to be spoonfed about this yet.

On the nature of the question though.. it's two different things in experience even if from the same root to just dream and even have lucid dreams or strip away the dream to astral project from the dream.
Lucid dreaming is internal mind palace, astral projection is accessing the megaserver of consciousnesses like this world is in a way as well.
Each human is a separate consciousness but the fabric of reality itself is nothing but a shared dream obeying strict laws like game rules laws for example, most important one being "law of conservation of matter" which gives meaning to things on the smallest level even considering when you can conjure things they lose all value other than one you give it personally.
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Okay I managed to pull something off today while I was taking a nap, I have been unsuccessful when trying to intentionally ap or get a lucid dream these past days so it was kinda neat
>take nap since I slept bad last night
>in my dream i walk into the bathroom
>there's a dog sleeping in front of the toilet
>"hm, there usually isn't a dog here, that must mean I'm dreaming"
>panic a little
>try to wake myself up
>it's not working
>realize this is actually what I wanted
>get excited
>tell myself to just focus
>go into my bedroom
>see myself sleeping in my bed
>slap my sleeping self in the face
>probably still trying to wake myself
>feel myself get slapped but I don't wake up
>decide to see what I can do
>think about a certain person coming into my room
>they walk in through the door and into my room
>see if I can make them come in again
>another copy of the same person comes in
>I feel so amazed that this is happening
>for some reason I want to make a horse appear
>it works and there's a horse in my room now
>wake up laughing
It was really cool but I think I get too excited when this stuff happens and it seems to happen so fast. How do I slow it down while still doing cool shit?
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Kamen rider
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>>43112237
>I thought this was the case that one can individually breakthrough but cannot "prove it" to others by arbitrary means.

Oh it absolutely can be done. Psi, pre-cog and bi location are side effects of that experience. There are many that have reached the early to late stages of enlightenment. Many of them are here including myself, some of my friends and some I have yet to meet.

I discovered my own path intuitionally. I realized later after reading the ancient texts that I was jumping to the late stage of merkavah activation (crown) where the body physically vibrates, and you can accomplish much during this state.

Salty mystics will say it takes years of kabbalah practice, but it certainly does not. You simply follow the instructions of the "essene jesus" and the body -> mind -> spirit path. I've described it over the years in online forums. Here and elsewhere.

We've trained people that became extraordinary, born from the view that they were simple and nothing special. The excitement around psi and paranormal shouldn't be the focus. It is a side effect of becoming a true human being.

Peace be with you.
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