Alana the Frostfire Fox shitposter+ discussion of Kirsche and Leaflit included>YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SmugAlana>Clipshttps://www.youtube.com/@SmugAlanaVtuberClips>VODshttps://www.youtube.com/@smugalanavods>Twitterhttps://x.com/SmugAlana>Twitchhttps://www.twitch.tv/smugalana>Discordhttps://discord.gg/smugalanaLeaflit: https://www.youtube.com/@LeaflitAsari/https://youtube.com/@slimecoreradiohttps://www.twitch.tv/Leaflithttps://kick.com/leaflithttps://rumble.com/c/LeaflitKirsche: https://www.youtube.com/@KirscheVerstahl/https://www.twitch.tv/Kirschehttps://kick.com/kirschePrevious: >>115884883
>>115900999I love my Alana rapewife
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>>115900999Its over for Alana bros, baby time.
>>115900999Nicely baked
>>115901003threesome with me, alana, and alana's anus
>>115900999Take a chill pill today ritual poster.we got trips.
Foxu not streaming today?
Kool Klock is late, she hate us!
https://www.twitch.tv/Kirschehttps://kick.com/kirschehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqV-kxFbEis
why are leaflit and kirsche feuding like retardswhat the fuck happened
>>115901321>what the fuck happenedTrannies happened, wherever they go they ruin things for everyone else.
>>115901321Leaflit dropped a well reasoned, logical take that explained her feelings while acknowledging the opposing viewpoint without diminishing it.Kirsche is having a prolonged woman moment and misinterpreting leaf's take because she's emotionally invested due to the subject matter being one of her core icks.
>>115901381they should be handling this privately like adults. they’re two grown women continuing this retarded tranny drama for another day. can’t blame troons when it’s both having a woman moment
>celestium is not only still friends with ember, she's going to do a collab with him sometime in the futureCelestium's back is suddenly looking very juicy and stabbable to strawb.
>>115901428>can’t blame troons when it’s both having a woman momentIf the troon wouldn't exist in the first place we wouldn't have this problem to begin with.
>>115901321old internet values vs new internet values.
>>115901404kirsche is acting like a whiny leftist faggot. if this bothers her that much get off the internet. she’s making this worse by creating a fight between her fans and leaflit’s. self inflicted gunshot wound
>>115901321the extrovert fails to understand the introvert >"so what you're saying is "Many such cases.
One good thing is coming from Kirsche and Leaflit's exchange and that's that people are starting to become more aware of the divide in mindset that's going on. Thankfully the discussion has stayed mostly amicable between them so that helps. A lot of this is coming down to "old internet" vs "new internet" mindsets clashing with one another.
>>115901477NTA but Kirsche is basically throwing logs on the fire this late in the game and creating more ammunition for people to point and laugh. If she had a serious issue with Leaflit, message her. You can’t blame a tranny for a woman acting like a retard
>even Kir is blackpilled nowI'm dooming
>>115901482You don't understand, anon. Her take HAS to be the correct take because this is just one of those issues where you're either good or evil. There is no room for nuance or compromise in kirsche's mind. A stark contrast to leaflit's 'I don't see a reason to be mad but I understand why some people would be, and they're not wrong for it'.
Kek. I watched alanas reaction to smug fox in dead space. I didn't know Alana was such a chicken when it comes to horror
>>115901571alana only watched a little bit of it last stream, but watch her mortuary assistant playthroughit's pure gold
>>115901548Because not everyone shares her take? Surly she's not that retarded.
>>115901321Leaf sees online identity as fundamentally a subset of one's self, a curated slice that exists purely intellectually, which leads her easily to the idea that online it's normal to just be whoever you present as. To Leaf being online is a double-life by its very nature.Kirsche sees online identity as an extension of the self. It's one limb of a single life. To her, presenting too differently in a virtual space is the same as scamming and close acquaintances have a right to clear knowledge of what's behind the avatar. You are YOU after all, don't pretend that you're not.So Leaf's understanding is in some sense very intellectualized and trans-coded. Kirsche's is much more straightforward and physical.On top of that, THEN there's all of what actually happened, and the feelings involved. But it's not just about the Ember situation, it's a deeper conflict about internet-mediated identity and human interaction.
The fox better not upset my slime.
>>115901596I hope Moonman makes an animation of that next
I'm gonna be jorkin it to loli. Keep me a breast of the kirsche situation with a play by play, fellas.
for anybody confused about old internet its that everyone on the internet is a man, every girl is a guy in real life and every child is an fbi agent.when you invite random girl to your group chat everyone expects it to be a dude and treats them like a man until they prove themselves to be an actual female to the rest of the group. vs they have a girl avatar so we treat her like a girl and say things we would only say to other girls what do you mean a man snuck in?
>Thread trying to manufacture some fight between Leaflit and Kirsche when they both replied to eachother with respect and were clearly not even mad OH I'M NOTICING
>>115901596I feel like chat should force her to play a scary game here and there. Shit is funny as fuck
>>115901683She called Leaflit "disingenuous."
>>115901673Kirsche wants to do normie political stuff on the weekends but stream won't let her
>>115901683At this point it's just drama frogs and antis trying to stir shit. Everyone else moved the fuck on
>>115901683yeah, its discord troons trying to sow a civil war among the trinity once again
>>115901645>trans-codedinternet culture pre corporation is not trans anything, you fucking queer.
>>115901710wow, dropping her immediately!
>>115901710....okay?
>>115901683I'm not gonna say they're turning into enemies, but kirsche's first reply to leaf's take was clearly an emotional one because it put words in leaf's mouth.
>>115901787as long as her second reply is putting her throbbing fox penis in leaf's gooey mouth
>>115901645>trans codedAbsolutely fucking not. Having an online persona used to be just the norm and how people operated. There was no faggy "uuuuuuoooooh my identity" shit going on. FlameFox123 was just FlameFox123, he wasn't trying to make a statement about anything. All that shit poured in much much later.
>>115901742Brother, it's a view of identity as being arbitrarily mutable in at least some cases. Get out of your feelings and recognize the obvious overlap.It's part of why Leaf's perspective will get some people toasty.
What a timeloop
>>115901742truthpretending to be something your not was not cause you actually thought you were that thing.you claimed to be a woman located in an entirely different country for basic opsec or to scam people into giving you things. not cause you thought you were really a woman.lying about your identity was a core part of old internet.
Ohhhhhh, okay. It finally clicked for me. Basically, the divide is between people that started using the internet before and after the rise of social media.
>>115901842You're choosing to ignore the obvious influence that had on the development of modern trannyism. They are interrelated whether you like it or not. I am not asserting that relation is an affirmation one way or the other.
For fucks sake just stop replying to bait already. In a weeks time some new and dumb drama will happen and this shit will become forgotten.
>>115901849-coded shit is gay race commie gobbledygook. You know that, right? You didn't let yourself get propagandized by letting ((them)) twist normalcy into something else, right?I mean, consider the implications if you things playing pretend is trans related. Are children playing trans? Is acting on stage and movies trans? Is fucking TTRPG trans?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=On1Bdto9wRsIt's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19ZJCsMtUkEIt's up
>>115901958alana’s rancid eggs
im not checking my test levels i faint during blood tests
>>115901482>doesn't want troons to grift >acting like a leftistpick one
>>115901932This one treated the ember thing like a nothingbuger, right?Adding her to my follows and goon folder.
>>115901683Kirsche acted like Leaflit was treading water for the left. Come on. She’s letting this stuff get to her head
Wow, I get why mods are deleting rando tourists coming into chat trying to @her about Ember but now they are timing out even long subbed chatters. Think twice about poking a fox today.
>>115901997Kirsche called Lealift the n-word
>>115901984It's vtubing brotherman, it's all a grift. All that matters is that the audience consents to the grift.
>>115901710And she called strawb retarded.Like it or not the fox is right. No quarter for troons grifting just because they were nice to you. Ember if you see this commit rope + pretty view.
>>115902000>Think twice about poking a fox today.Someone get kirsche to snarl and say "today's not a good day to test me, kitten." in her mommy voice.
>>115902015keep it up, bro, you are totally fitting in! try to use the word "quango" next and you'll be perfect
I saw one twitter faggot sum it up pretty good. Trannies, well intentioned or otherwise, will inevitably lead to that thing being completely coopted by the most degenerate, hateful, and vile human beings you'll ever have the displeasure of interacting with.I see where leaflit is coming from, but I agree with Kirsche's hardline stance. There is no room for such faggotry. I don't think you need to go out of your way to bully or harass them, but you should absolutely refuse to let them enter your space.For me personally, this goes right back to "just suck the dick bigot". If I went on a date with a woman, had a great time talking, really enjoyed her company and got to know her, then went home with her and got to going at it only to pull her pants down and see a dick staring me in the face, I'd be fucking pissed. No amount of guilt tripping or gaslighting is going to make me want to fuck a man pretending to be a woman and I will feel violated and betrayed for having been lied to. Presenting and conducting yourself as a woman only to actually be a man IS a lie regardless of whether or not it's physical or online. Nobody cares if a man plays an MMO as a dude. But they do care when that man is trying to court favor or gain items/wealth by tricking other men into giving those things to them. It's also the same reason why people leave GFE streamers in droves when it comes out they had a husband or boyfriend the whole time and no amount of, "Oh but their character is single!" is going to stop all of those people from feeling lied to.
Today is probably the last time we'll see beach Kirsche for a while
>>115901988Treated it like a nothingburger and called Strawb a malicious snake (even before Powdur).
>>115902034>No quarter for troons griftingI'm noticing how the vtubing community isn't a real thing, until it is. There's no reason for this shitshow to have continued beyond day 1, or 2 if I'm being generous, because no one has to even acknowledge anyone they don't want to. Kirsche was already ignoring the guy before this because she had a hunch, and that's not going to change now.
>>115902015So you're okay with a troon that>made fetishized material about force feminization and is still proud of that book>was on agp help reddits>praised finnsterNo fuck off. This is a disingenuous goal post move meant to just hand wave these facts. You don't get to weasel your way out of this by equating it to kayfabe. Try again.
>>115902106I miss Tora's model. She used it 3 times and never again.
I'm not really sure what else they want from the troon desu. He was outed and won't be running in that same circle of chuubas from now on. Short of throwing him off a building or some shit I'm not sure what more they want.
>>115902114>called Strawb a malicious snakef-fuck...
>>115902141We'll see it again, it has its time and place
>>115901919Call it trans-adjacent then. And no of course all those things are different because none of them blur the boundaries in the way pseudonymous internet communities do and did.When people use avatars and usernames, but interact with no pretense to theater they are doing something different. That leads inevitably to some people constructing and inhabiting identities in a way distinct to roleplay that I'm sure there's technical language for but that I don't know.It is a novel phenomenon that is at least partially responsible for inducing trannyism in some. I'm not trying to endorse it. You're holding on to the idea that there's no connection for purely emotional reasons.
>>115902128>So you're okay with a troon that- bunch of shit I never cared or even knew about until it was force upon me because dramawhores saw their next paydayThere's a lot of vtubers I'm not okay with, ideologically, like clara's new account, togepi or whatever. I am unbothered by them because I don't have to ever see them.
>>115902150It's not about the tranny at this point, it's about the SUPACHATS
>>115902233I hope he collabs with Leaflit in the future. It would be so, so fucking kino.
>>115902106We all know her true best model
>>115902182>Call it trans-adjacent thenNah I'm still sane.
Well look who showed up.
>Man larping as a woman is a liarYou don't say
>>115902182on the old internet there was no connection. overtime it happened and plently of people turned into trannies but back then it really wasnt cause people could separate online and offline. the people on the net were more intelligent then the modern internet user.
>>115902202>Admits to being a retard with no principles >Supports people that literally want him deadleftist larping to sew division or actual retarded faggot that thinks he's on the rightpick one
>>115902271kek oh no no nopls don't get oneshotpls don't get oneshotpls don't get oneshot
>>115902287It didn't happen because back then there wasn't a concerted push by subversives to convince mentally malleable people they're actually trans because their mmo/tabletop character is the opposite gender.
>>115902202>Just live and let live I used to think this way but not anymore. The entire reason everything is so infested with leftists and troons who in turn nowadays is because of that mindset. You have to gatekeep or else these parasites will latch on to what you love and kill it from the inside
>>115902289Bro, I just said I avoid certain vtubers that deviate from my own person views too much. If I avoid them that means I also don't support them.
This foxu argument about lying is lame, pot calling kettle black type of shit. All of these foids are either LARPing or otherwise misrepresenting who they actually are. I'll say though the one thing making Ember stuff worse is it's slightly more about what's going on behind the curtains not on the stage itself. All the rest is just due to women being treated softer.
>>115901655Indeed, slime is lovemaking
How long are some of you retards going to goyloop about this drama?
So apparently there's straight up groups of "right wing" retards getting played and puppet mastered by trooncord faggots. Looking at the tranny defenders itt. seems like the ones getting one shotted are right wing midwits.
there is a Pipi Longstocking vtuber?
>>115902375>All the rest is just due to women being treated softer.This is how I feel. All the talk about protecting women's spaces would fit right in on the wokest reddit thread.
>>115902375>keersheeToday I will remind them.
Really, if people would just uniformly agree to give Strawb the axe for being a malicious snake, we could literally all move on. They can dump both her and Ember in the same pit for all I care.
>kotaku wrote about this
>>115902389I dunno, has kirsche stopped looping on it yet?>>115902392Nigga I just don't care and there's no reason for me to care when the tranny in question is so benign, it too a massive drama for me to learn anything about him. If this hadn't blown up, he'd still be in his little corner catfishing and I would still be completely oblivious to his existence.
>>115902375Retard doesn't understand the difference between kayfabe and lying to get access to collabs and audiences. At the end of the day you're wrong for defending a troon.
>>115902426yeah yeah, we know, and if everyone just uniformly agreed to put so-and-so in the OP, you'd stop spamming the thread
I think we're finally escaping the loop. Thank fuck.
>>115902382Is that loli Alana?
>>115902418Finger my fucking meatflower Kirsche! PLEASE!
>>115902418I really like this dumb ai slop because of the cracker explosions and how happy kirsche's model looks when they happen
>>115902449Collabs is fair enough, but audience? lol everyone already knew the vtuber with a voice changer was a guy. If anyone in his audience got got, they deserve it.
>>115902448>t. a midwit.
>>115902469>spamming the threadNot only am I not responsible for the thread OP, not only am I not spamming it, but how many fucking messages do you think I'm posting? 80% of the thread is talking about this.
>>115902471
>>115902505>Celestium told him personal information she wouldn't if she knew he was a guy. You retards would let a troon into your daughters slumber party and it shows.
Activist judges are domestic terrorists
Please ignore that every post defending the troon is seething over kirsche, totally not a coincidence. It's not like we've had many faggots here in the past completely dedicated to hating her
>>115902449You think they are fully honest with each other behind the scenes? Well, are you being fully honest in work relationships? The fuck you are. Most of these interactions they have (also in Ember's case) are rather shallow. There can be exceptions, but as per words foxu likes to often borrow as well - there are no friends in content creation.>>115902544Even if Ember is a creep, which I'm more inclined to think he is, you are not comparing apples to apples.
>>115902544Celestium chose to remain friends with him so it must not have been that bad, and I'm not going to be offended on her behalf.Thinking about it though, considering some vtubers are on a fucking period tracker, I wonder what kind of info would be too personal. Aside from anything with dox potential, of course. Maybe celestium told ember about a yeast infection she got or something, I unno.
>>115902571I'm noticing
>>115902505>lol everyone already knew the vtuber with a voice changer was a guy.Clearly not considering he said on stream he wasn't a man and his chat didn't question it
>>115902571They're getting played and don't want to admit they unknowingly have troon dick up their ass making them talk. Forgive them for they are the raped.
>>115902389>goyloop>posts a jew
>>115902604>Can't actually argue with the point being made instead continues to move goalposts.
>>115902571Ember deserves ridicule for lying to women and being agp. Ironically he’s not the one causing more drama today though
lol Youmacon is actually doubling down on their anti-Kirsche stance. what some thought was just an overzealous radical community manager turns out to be a general consensus among all the organizers. they've pretty much become Papers, Please, where everyone is being purity tested at the gate just to get in. They have become the southern border. they are ICE now.
>>115902620I was gonna say it's too early in the day to be dealing with your level or retarded, but I see now it's well into the afternoon.Existential dred from realizing i'm pissing precious hours away on irreverent vtuber drama aside, they didn't question it because it clearly didn't matter to them. Hence all the 'yeah we know' response when he finally came clean.
Where's the "I have completely stopped giving a shit about this" option
>>115902657Oh really? Name the exact original goalposts I placed.
>>115902612Those ears could poke an eye out
>>115901645>>115901849>>115902076>>115902244Isn't Leaflit intersex? I've seen some chat screenshots of her saying that, though I don't know if those were real because it's the internet, obviously, so she might actually take that stuff somewhat personally. Mind you, being intersex is not the same as being a tranny, so if it really is true then I'm guessing she has something like Turner syndrome, but that part's just me speculating.
>>115902671>Ember deserves ridicule for lying to womenLying to women is based actually.Being a weird gender confused dude cancels it out though.
Ember deserves it for being a Brianna Wu housemonkey for people that hate her learn some class consciousness bitch
They're barring stuttering craig from getting into the con.
>>115902643If I want to eat matzoh balls and challah bread with Giwi and Tob that's my own damn business okay?
>>115902693leaflit also has a tranny in her family
>>115902703Well they wouldn't want anyone to see the rugpull happening live so it makes sense.
>>115902698>Brianna Wu housemonkey for people that hate herIsn't Brianna Wu basically another JK Rowling situation where agrees with the left on literally every single thing, except ONE single issue? I think for Rowling it was trannies and for Wu it was Israel or something.
>>115902691you should see what her claws and her fat girthy tail can do!
>>115902693Those were made by a scorned friend of hers who obsessed over her every single day. Completely unreliable.
>>115902688>The difference between lying and kayfabe>pretending to not care about the troon shit but seemingly trying to handwave it awayIn the end you are effectively defending tranny shit and I defy you to prove otherwise.
>>115902693Brother I'm like 99% sure those were fake because it was always posted by the schizo anon who claims to be extremely close with her irl but can't actually say anything to even remotely prove it.
>>115902724ladyboys can actually pass so it's fine.
>>115902748So safety glasses are recommended when around her?
>>115902741I don't think their situations are even remotely similar
licking alana's anus as she uses her fusion powers to alternate between steamy hot and refreshingly cold
>>115902793that actually was a sharty gayop but like one or two posts were real where leaf said she had gender dysphoria when she was younger but the intersex stuff was fake and gay
Wait, did they actually ban Craig from the con?
>>115902861Reaf being recovered from gender dysphoria would explain her tendency to caution troon friends against going forward with the dick slicing.
>>115902785I simply reject your claim that kayfabe is even part of this conversation. My original point is not about the fake character traits they put up but general subtle (and not so subtle) lies. LARP is not the bad part.
what iswouldbe alanas take on the incident
Loli Alana has been a thing.Loli kirsche has been a thing.But has busty milfy leaflit been a thing?
>>115902926You rejecting the claim is irrelevant. In effect you are defending troon shit.
>>115902918nta but I don't think you have to be a detransitioner to warn others against making major irreversible changes to their bodies.
>>115902889apparently they invalidated his ticket QR code, but he just acted confused and the ticket lady assumed it was an error and let him in. not sure if malicious or just unorganized con being unorganized.
>>115902969We also have loli tomoe!
>>115902779>>115902793>>115902861Did she specifically deny it anywhere? Any source by chance? I would much rather believe it's not true and that she's just a chubby autistic middle-aged Pilipino lady, right? (That's not a rhetorical question, I'm actually asking.)>a scorned friend of hers who obsessed over her every single dayNot gonna lie, I kinda get it. She's funny and cute.
>>115902969Asari is right there
>>115902993Well II wasn't saying Leaf was a "detransitioner" More saying "I beat the dysphoria without going through with the transition treatment, you can too" type of thing.
>>115902969isn't milf Leaflit just Asari?loli Asari when?
>>115903025>deny itWhy would she acknowledge a random post on 4chan?
>>115902969Leaf takes her "character" more seriously than most, her whole vtuber corp is built around being in the world of her autistic TTRPG. She wears costumes but she doesn't really do "versions" of her character.
>>115903019weirdest fucking brand change I've seen in a while
>>115903087Tomoe has been a known loli enjoyer for a while.
>>115902839
Okay two instances of badges being voided. Will we see a third?
>>115903103I thought she was a shotacon?
>>115902448today is the first chance that she's had to talk about it to her stream audience. likely done talking about it for the most part. Every other way of her talking about it is ancillary until her audience has that back and forth
>>115903078I think she's done a goblin version beforelore-wise, she's just using magic to look humanoid, so she could easily re-arrange her density and put on a loli shimmer disguise.
>>115903087>>115903103Tomoe is a known oldfag even making Boku no pico jokes.
>>115902375obfuscation for the purpose of opsec is extremely different from what happened here
are we making a birthday card for leaflit this year
>>115903172She treats that as a separate character, Goblit.
>>115903076I must've misread one of the posts I replied to as "she said the intersex stuff was fake and gay" so I assumed that theory broke containment outside of 4chan, but apparently not.In which case, how do people know one part is real while the other isn't and what's the story with this scorned friend?
>>115903191If we do, we need to get it done and turned in sooner than last year. It took like two weeks for her to get through the whole thing last time and the card was near the bottom of the pile because it got turned in so late and I remember that causing some friction with people.
>>115903025I don't think she was ever even aware of it. The gayop fizzled out when the basedfags got called out. But they basically took screenshots from a scorn friend or associate, the fags identity was never found out, and added the intersex stuff.
>>115903103I get enjoying it, but trying to become it is a much different thing.
>>115903087It's not the rebranding, that's not until her contract is up next year.
>>115903246that makes it even weirder
>>115903259Tomoe just likes lolis.
>>115903087>>115903259>ewwww loli is weirdWhere the fuck do you think you are? No wonder we've been forced to loop on this retarded drama for almost a week now.
>>115903237>I get enjoying it, but trying to become it is a much different thing.Wait, am I the weird one for thinking the first thing is actually worse than the second thing?
>>115903197I can't remember the story. I learned a fair bit about him, though. I went into the server and asked about him, bringing a guy into DMs who was in Leaflit's friend circle.Apparently this dude is in his late 40s obsessing every single day over Leaflit after them not being friends anymore, trying to ruin her reputation. Octotai or something.
>>115902505>but audience?Anon, the market for losers on twitter or youtube (twitch for that matter too) with greek/roman statue pfps, quoting marcus aurelius or machiavelli at you while never having read either of them, bemoaning the state of the West by typing paragraphs worth of camp des saints (which they only ever consumed via osmosis) fanfics and thinking of themselves as some arbiter of the white race while simultaneously being argentinian or otherwise of questionable ethnicities is pretty saturated. A buxom readhead anime girl (female) sharing the politics of her audience of sad sacks of lonely males is going to garner infinitely more views than any male homo chuuba ever will.
>>115903224I get the tangents and all because that's just Leaflit, but that was ridiculousI think she only had what, around 400 messages to get through on the padlet?
>>115902990Judging by how focused you are on troons, you care about them a lot more than I do. But don't start letting them live rent free in your head. Just remember there are other kinds of nasty people in this realm like sexpests and also ones sucking up to them for an advantage.>>115903181For sure but come on, OPSEC-related ones are just among of the many kinds of lies they make, even for Kirsche. Managers, undercutting business of others, lies about personal preferences, pretending to be nice beyond the basic politeness, etc etc. I'll say though that what Ember did cuts especially deep, because gender just dictates the nature of interpersonal interactions that much, no matter how you try to put it under a different light.
>>115903287I just prefer my tomboy horsegirl with big tits and tanlines. to suddenly change into a child model after so long is certainly a choice, especially if its still under her Army Horse persona. couldn't wait until the contract ended and done it then, to emphasize a new, non-military brand.
>Every con isn't full of gay race communistsOh, my sweat summer child
>>115903334I think it'd be funny if she just rebranded herself to basically a dude with an anime girl avatar and no voice changer like Rev and just doing regular commentary. Probably too late for that, but personally, I'd see that as a more viable strategy.
>>115903447it's just another model she can use whenever, like the chibi models.
>>115903334Everytime I see fatty I can only think of the clip of him falling down the stairs!
>>115903191I'm not starting it but if someone else does I'll make something
>>115903457one of the biggest most important vtubers inside the CIRCLE does just thathttps://www.youtube.com/@PorcelainMaid/videos
>>115903425>no unice way of weaseling out retard.
>>115903460That nigga is still alive? Thought her channel died by now.
>>115903633don't worry, strawb will take care of her. or should I say, him.
>>115903460>>115903633Is she any good? I saw her get a lot of support over the initial dreadlocks controversy, and I've seen her do collabs occasionally with the other right-wingish VTubers, but she herself never struck me as that interesting.I feel about as lukewarm about her as I do that other Vtuber who happens to have the same fetish as me, so I want to like her, but she's so boring that I can't watch her.
>>115901527>can’t blame a tranny for a woman acting like a retardI can and will
The Blake Lounge guy Kirsche just had up on screen is in her Kick chat, but i don't think she noticed
>>115903589You brought out trannies in context of a set of behaviors, not me. So don't @ me and discuss them with someone else. Yuck.
>>115903780I saw in twitch chat that her mods are relaying his messages
>>115903758I don't really watch her to any meaningful extent, but I've hung out a couple times. She's a very laid back, mature woman with plenty of experience in life who likes to entertain in a more original sense.She's talked about how she used to be a bartender and she tended for a number of big name celebrities, including Tom Cruise. She still has the mindset of a bartender today.
>>115900999Kitsunero:https://www.twitch.tv/kitsunerohttps://www.youtube.com/@KitsuneroRosiebellmoo:https://www.twitch.tv/rosiebellmoohttps://www.youtube.com/@RosiebellmooSquChanhttps://www.twitch.tv/squchanhttps://www.youtube.com/@SquChanBerry Crepe:https://twitch.tv/berrycrepehttps://youtube.com/@berrycrepeMintzey:https://twitch.tv/mintzeymoon/https://youtube.com/@mintzeymoonCypress:https://twitch.tv/vtubercypress/https://youtube.com/@vtubercypressAmalgamytehttps://youtube.com/@amalgamytehttps://kick.com/amalgamytePawshttps://www.twitch.tv/pawshttps://www.youtube.com/@pawsvtuberPowdurhttps://twitch.tv/powdurhttps://kick.com/powdurhttps://youtube.com/@powdurNyanijihttps://twitch.tv/nyanijihttps://youtube.com/@nyaniji
>>115903805That's good, he seems to want to help her and Craig with con stuff
>>115903844>>115901901
>>115903758She is pretty terrible. Only still around because the Left went after her. Literally just an optics grifter, who is either not fluent in English or the hamster in her head takes a bit to get the wheel going from how long she buffers to get a coherent thought out.
>>115903758Banana isn't a bad watch
Genuinely don't understand how you overstay a visa like this. Or how you're allowed to overstay.
>>115903827I hate women as much as the next chud but my experiences in mmos gave me a soft spot for older women. They can be really chill and friendly if they're happily married to a decent guy.
>>115903894Good to see justice still lives king
>>115903983I imagine the same way I ended up having to get 7 cavities filled after being told about the first one>ehhhh, I'll get around to it.
he's so desperate for attention he's starting replying to himself
Pretty shamefur dispray, threadshitter.
>>115904018But thinking about the logistics, driving, renting, working how do these people manage to coast by.
https://x.com/nekonevtuber/status/2115778458517377172nekone approves
>>115903844Why haven't you added Miia to your ritualposts? She's also a smug coded chuuba!Here are her links; please add her in the next thread.https://www.youtube.com/@matoimiiahttps://www.twitch.tv/miia
>>115903983Intentional lack of enforcement by the government prior because of census incentives (House and Electoral College seats) and planning for a mass amnesty because step 1 of mass amnesty is having a population too large to be deported by normal meansIt's intentional by the usual suspects to achieve their wants while taking advantage of middle-of-the-road or conservatives in regards to it by appealing to normalcy.
He's pestering himself to add Miia to his spam for multiple threads now, truly schizo behavior
Lmao I didn't even realize threadshitter didn't post his spam yet until he actually did it
>>115904182different people, that one is some deranged miia anti
>>115904094She’s a month and a half late
>>115903751based Strawb clearing out the fake chuds
>>115904216If it is a different guy, it's shitters banding togetherThat's not much better than one guy samefagging
>>115904216Nah, it's you
>Troon arrested by ice is a sex pest.The thing that never happens happened again.
>>115904321arresting alana's anus for public indecency
>>115904350Her hemorrhoids have turned it into an ovipositor?!
>>115903992She's happily married to a decent guy.The decent guy came to the mic and said that if you didn't immediately realize Ember was a dude, you're stupid.
>>115904413No troon apologist is a decent guy. But BananaJuju was just forced to chud, she'd be out there virtue signalling with the left if people didn't get stupid over her hair.
>>115904350I wish I was evaporated by Alana's rank russian farts!
>>115904182Yes yes we heard you anyone who disagrees with you is the same person
>Kirsche has not only betrayed Ember but also Leaflit.Can't wait for Strawb to stab Kirsche in the back.
>>115904289This
>>115904485Leaflit was being a disingenuous. Just because you end your statement with "I understand why people are upset" it does not negate your earlier paragraphs saying they're wrong and running damage control for Ember. But considering she had AI write her response it's clear she's not intellectually competent, or doing it in good faith.
>>115904485Hey can you take your gayops out of here we have bigger fish to fry. Like leftist trying to get Craig arrested.
>>115904485>betrayed leaflitIs this just about the friction they had on social media or did something else happen?
The anits are really going wild spinning their fanfictions now huh
>>115904583It was Leaflit’s turn to rape Alana, but Kirsche stole her spot
I told you guys the Ember dickrider is a kirsche anti. Just look at this embarrassing faggot >>115904485
>>115904568If Anon who didn't want to tune in didn't tune in they'd be missing this real time insanity
>>115904628now that's just rude
Poor craig got boomer and a black cop.
>>115904485Motherfucker we can read. You can't stir shit when we a have the receipts. "Betrayed" is some crazy over exaggerating of two people calmly disagreeing on twitter.
>even the chudtuber space gets invaded by troons, who call people transphobic for not letting troons in women's only spacesYou can't make this shit up kek.
>Kirsche confirms things with her and Leaflit were cordial and she isn't even madWell there goes the threadshitter narrative yet again
>>115904730Confirmed by Kirsche on stream just now, she called the interaction cordial
>>115904603They sense dissent in the ranks. Chuds as usual get lost in their feelings and lash out at those around them. Many such cases.
>>115904842fucking obliterated within the hour.
>>115904837transgenderism defiles truth, beauty and objective morality while promoting being a sexual degenerate and subjective morality. It is antithetical to the baseline values of conservatism. it is not possible to be a right wing tranny. You will never be accepted. You will never be a woman
>>115904842>>115904855>cordial>when she was hurling slurs and dropping all kinds of -bombs at leaflit
>>115904842I hope this means this drama frog will finally fuck off and we can get back to posting funny korsche pictures, talking about alanas anus, and discussing what leaflits slime feels like
>>115904837I hate trannies but I don't believe in women only spaces outside of competitions like sports and junk.
>115904930>Literally making shit up Go. Back.
>>115904930Away with you you've been got.
>>115904485>Strawb went after Powdur and it didn't work>Strawb went after Ember and it did work>anons really think that Strawb is going to stop after thisA lot of us agree that Ember was wrong to lie about their gender, but Strawb didn't do that because she cared about women, or whatever if, she had this info for so long. She did this because she is in her Christian larp. She is 1/1 in her cancellation attempts and Kirsche called Strawb a retard for how she went about this Ember shit. I can guess who will be next.
>>115905069Kirsche isn't a Christian, so I guarantee you she'll try to give Kirsche the Powdur treatment.
>>115905069I wonder if we will still have people here (not the antis) still taking Strawb's side if she were to go after Kische or Leaflit.
Hey so remember when I said kirsche called learflit all kind of slurs and stuff?yeah. I lied. Sorry. It's just that I find it kind of hot to imagine kirsche saying that sort of stuff to leaf in her thick boston accent while jackhammering her little sopping wet christmas cake hapa pussy with her fingers while leaf is squirming and moaning.
>>115905069Strawb has no reason to go after the hamburgler you troonlover
>>115905139>learflitthat's what I get for horny posting
>>115905069I don't give two shits about strawb's intention. The substance was correct and Ember corroborated it.If you're going to shoot the messenger, I question what your business is around right wing creators
>>115905162You're making the mistake of trying to apply reason and logic to a woman's actions. >my wife has no reason to send me on an errand so she can triple homicide our children
>>115905162She had no "reason" to go after Powdur either other than having a disagreement over abortion and yet here we are. All it takes is a disagreement of any kind for her to decide to try and come for you.
>>115905162>Strawb has no reason to go after the hamburgler you troonloveJust like she had no reason to go after Powdur over a Twitter disagreement, retard.>>115905186>this person has a history of being puritanical cancellation actor, but they went after a troon I didn't know existed so my oshi is probably safe.The state of the retards in this thread. No wonder we can never mobilize shit.
>>115905139>imagine two 200+lb landwhales entwined and rolling in the mudanon please I just ate.
>>115905186>I don't give two shits about strawb's intentionYou're allowing the fox in the hen house because it ate the rat. This is the sowing phase. Don't cry when you enter the reaping phase. It's what you chose.
>>115905186This. It's clear Ember's fans have invaded
>Erm look okay Strawb will attack Kirsche because I said so in my head JUST FUCKING ACCEPT TROONS ALREADY Yeah, not fooling anyone
>>115905243>Just like she had no reason to go after Powdur over a Twitter disagreement, retard.Nah Christians fight over the abortion issue all the time. It's like one of their big political stances. Plenty of reason. Personally I approve of abortion, the world is better place by having less of a person who needed an abortion in the first place.
>>115905243they don't have a ton in common. If you think kirsche is giving strawb ANY sensitive info that she could be backstabbed wtih, then you really don't understand kirsche's past and the caution she exhibits in DMs
>>115905250>undulating mountains of flesh glistening with sweat and love juices accompanies by the squelching sound of countless folds >"YEAAAAAH YOU LIKE THAT YOU LITTLE JAP HAPA WEEB? IT'S TIME FOR DA BUTTA DOG, YOU SLANT-EYES WHOARE?">kirsche then pulls out a stick of butter...
>>115905357kek
>>115905329Tags: FatMan, Ugly Bastard, Rape, Impregnation, Moral Degeneration, Big Cock, Huge Cock, Cervix Penetration, Mind Break.
>>115905329need an edit of this with heart eyes
>>115905357Fuck I can hear this.
>>115905344nta but I can see strawb picking something to use considering how... forthcoming kirshe has been with her past relationships and some sexual escapades. I still can't believe she actually went into detail about sucking her bf's dick to the point she puked, and then kept sucking it.
Goddamn that Kirsche moan was hot
>>115905357Needs the screeching sounds Leaflit makes when getting spraybottled by Asari
>>115905435Well fuck I'm hard again. I'm more upset it wasn't me.
https://x.com/AsariVT/status/2116286511905911066Holy fucking kek, rare Asari shitpost
>>115905461I was thinking the exact same thing
>>115905523
>>115905523Imagine Asari touching leaflit while she sleeps.
I have this sneaking suspicion that this guy really doesn't like Strawb...
>>115905523So do we have any dirt on Asari?I really can't shake the hunch that "she"'s Leaf's trannoid momdom lover, and not actually related.
>>115905674You are mentally ill
>>115905674She raped Leaflit all her life and now rapes Alana. She tried to rape Kirsche too but was uno reversed and raped instead. She crawled away anus barely intact and only slightly prolapsed.
Asari, Alana's, and all the other girls in the spheres moms should get together and talk about spanking their daughters together. They can share tips, tricks, and stories.
>>115905770An Asian woman, a Russian woman, and a insane white trash women walk into a bar....
I think I have the same level of tism as leaflit because I tried watching a sample of ember's content and I had to make a conscience effort to keep reminding myself it's a guy saying this stuff. I'm just as smart autistic as leaf, who takes the puppet on screen at face value. Or maybe am just a dumb retard like the sperg from the gif that's mesmerized by the colored lights.
>>115905770Alana's and Leaflit's mom beat the shitty diapers off Kirsche's eric cartman ass mother.
>>115905834Make them into computers and this is just Rule 63'd "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream"
Honestly, the only adult in the room is Celestium. Everyone else is acting like middle schoolers. And I'm talking about people on both sides.Did you guys even watch Celestium's stream about this mess? If you're so invested in this drama, then I think you should watch it.
>>115906125she says people should be truthful. Ember was not truthful. Celestium's response to this is to do nothing. Her convictions are completely empty. Even less effective than making a Strongly Worded Letter. Literally nothing and just ensures it'll happen again and again
>>115906167Did you watch her stream?
>>115906125I actually have been meaning to watch her stream about it. I watched ember's and I just finished strawb's. After I finish the trilogy, I'll be done.>>115906167>Celestium's response to this is to do nothingGoing by what others have said and celestium's posts on x, it sounds like she forgave him. If your issue with her is she didn't punish him, he's already being punished. Celestium apparently decided she didn't want to add onto it.
>>115906216I did. She espoused her beliefs on what others should do. But backed up those beliefs with nothing
>forgiveness without repentanceThis shit just gets sillier and sillier
>4 hour thread I miss the 2 day ones
Kirsche just admitted to being a leftist LIVE ON STREAM!
>>115906489I don't know scripture so what constitutes repentance.
>>115906563The chudtubers are fighting. It will only stop once the dispute has ended.I really, really hope Alana doesn't watch the recent Rev video. She'll be dragged in.
Watching Alana talk about how much she loves eating makes me want to slam my pelvis against her girth and listen to the sonorous reverberations of our love...
>>115906627...anally, of course.
>>115906614alana definitely isn't going to watch it and get involvedshe doesn't have a horse in the race, because she doesn't associate with anyone who has been involved or who has been talking about it (besides kirsche)
>>115906260People have no object permanence in these communities and easily forget that less than 4 years ago Celestium was a 14 year old boy making Roblox troll videos where he'd run up to people in servers and try reading them the bible against their will. He's trans, of course he wants to stay out of this conversation.
>>115905674You have it backwards, Asari is a real woman who always wanted a daughter but her husband left her with a son so she cracked his eggy weggy into the persona we now know as Leaflit
>>115906627Hearing Alana talk about literally anything makes me want her to slam her pelvis against mine in a procreative manner
>>115906686adding this to the schizo doccy
>>115900999pregnancy is such a shit fetish bloated carcass aesthetic
>>115906674(me)and it's not because she's running defense for anyone, she just doesn't talk about every single drama like the bao drama from a few months backif someone went after kirsche then she might talk about it
>>115906679I would've believed you a week ago, but now I know if that were true, strawb would've burned her ass by now.
>>115906753I will be having octuplets with Alana just to spite you
>>115906790Strawb doesn't know shit unless you put it directly in front of her and tell her to wag her tail.
>>115906753nigga you gay
>>115906753>pregnancy>fetishhttps://x.com/BackTheBunny/status/2108105994681331818"“creampie” is the “demisexual” of sex. a say-nothing word that tries to kink-ify normalcy. I didn’t learn until my mid 20s it’s just a safe-horny way to slut up the radical act of having normal sex through completion. like you’re supposed to."
>>115906878>>115906813>>115906904you have a gross body horror fetish fuck off
>>115906674I don't think she would typically get involved either, but she regularly watches Rev. I'm worried about her watching it without realizing who all it involves.
>>115906741Asari's momdom is more like gitmo treatment. Cameras all over the house, random beatings. Leaflit was kept dependent to never leave home and needing to please her (sexually)
>>115906917pregnancy is the hottest
>>115906753>>115906917Hi Ember
>>115907019pregnant women can barely move and have to shit all day because their guts get squished
>>115906917>mindbroken by normal sexKWAB
>>115907038What part of normal sex implies having a parasite turning you into a disgusting blob
>>115907036Your first mistake was thinking anyone cares about 3DPD mechanics
>>115907118The intended goal of having sex
>>115907118The damage done to women is inexcusable. Some of them think of having a family as punishment. Truly grim times.
>>115907118Infecting a woman with your parasite-growing seed is the ultimate act of ownership
>>115907212>>115907195>>115907145>>115907144pregfag in shambleshttps://files.catbox.moe/fbr5tm.png
>>115907212This means the rapeposting ITT is technically a long running ownership dispute
The meltdown over pregnancy confirms we've been raided by troons
>>115907302People defending Ember made it obvious.
>>115907302Pretty sure it's just a troll
>>115901321Leaflit believes in old internet "be whoever you want online who cares"Kirche on side scrollers claims the old internet idea is dead, and people have lives and economies online and are their real self more, therefore being a fake is immoralKirsche is wrong because the internet was forced into this new era and its based to preserve and behave in the ways of old internetAlso, because new internet people see the internet as *part* of their real life, any and all degeneracy, from anime tiddies, to larping as women, to furries, means the people who like that stuff are 100% mentally ill irl and need to be purged.Leaflit old internet is more libertarian and more let people enjoy things, with the understanding that irl most people, even loli enjoyers, are normal office workers or high school kids irl. For example leaglit used to do non showy halloween tier cosplays for fun at anime conventions.Maria and strawb and most turbo christians are new internet believers. Basically arguing god watches every link you click and it shows who you truly are. There is no seperation of persona.Thats why maria says repeatedly, always arguing with her chat, that loli is evidence you like cheese pizza, despite studies since the 90s showing otherwise. (See how most of japan arent rapists)Which is interesting because rev is old internet and every time strawb has a woman moment she tweets days later walking it back, probably because rev told her
>>115901526The problem is old internet is inherently libertarian and right wing new internet is authoritarian.And since the left is degenerate on a massive scalre, the right wants to purge hard, thus fucking libertarian believers and people with hidden degeneracies. In a right wing controlled internet leaflit would be fucked for being too kind to trannies and likijg degenerat e anime. Rev would be fucked for defending loli. This fight is guarenteed to happen. Its ideology differences that are incompatible. The only thing that keeps the right unites is the glue of "holy shit commies want us both dead and want everything gay and retarded". As the left loses power, the differences in the right stand out.I am simplifying a bit but yeah. Powdur and mentis wave would not agree on anything if it were a /pol/ style right wing majority culture
>>115907462>guarenteed to happenI agree, but holy fuck do I wish we could've had this conflict at a later, better fucking time. This is horrendous timing.
>>115907462It was funny watching all the tourists under leaf's recent posts leaving shit like>wtf I thought you were right wing? unfollowed!As much as I enjoy "based" chuubas, I don't enjoy the subset of fans that are only here for culture war bullshit. Like, yeah I initially found kirsche because youtube's algo clocked my interest in that kind of stuff, and showed me some clips of kirsche being politically incorrect, but I show up to catch just about all her streams because I enjoy her personality more than anything else. She could make reading the phone book entertaining.
I dont get women who say shit like "if i knew it was a man i wouldnt have said x, y ,z"Are you friends or not? If i was in a groupchat and a girl was sufficiently friend i wasnt trying to fuck id still post like a guy. Not gonna let boobs dictate how i say shit. And if she did id call her a foid and yell at her bf
>>115907368>old internet "be whoever you want online who cares"Man I love when zoomers act like they have any idea of what the past was like.It was never "be whoever you want online" it was "everyone else online is a man". Tits or GTFO was a response to stupid women wanting their female privileges in online spaces. It was generally a 0 trust environment, OUTSIDE of friend groups.And a group chat would back then would still hate Ember for what he did and Leaflit is crazy for claiming otherwise (muh invite the character, in a private space). Hell your average online game community would hate Ember for it back then
>>115907616>Are you friends or not?I think the difference in viewpoint just a male vs female thing. It reminds me of the meme where the female friend group looks homogeneous while the male friend group looks like some kind of misfit A team.
>>115907616Because that's how reality works. Women do, in fact have boundaries to what they'll say in front of men vs other women. I'm not even defending it but it's true
>>115907616>I don't get why women are disgusted by a sexpest's comments having a new light to them.Probably because you're dumb
The internet is a gateway to your inner self, your body is a vessel. This is how someone like Leaflit experiences things while Kirsche and Alana have a life outside the internet. It's largely determined by breast size and how many times they watched Lain.
>>115907676>Hell your average online game community would hate Ember for it back thenkek surly you jest. that shit was all over mmos. it was so prevalent, some gaming mag back then, I think it was electronic gaming monthly, one of the editors has an anecdote where one of the writers was checking is watch during a meeting because he had to get back home to log onto star wars galaxies and dance for some other player on his female twilek.
>>115907616> If i was in a groupchat and a girl was sufficiently friend i wasnt trying to fuck id still post like a guyWhat do you even mean by that? You'd be throwing lewd comments their way like Ember?
>>115907733>It's largely determined by breast size and how many times they watched Lain.Powerful Schizo Truth
>>115907758>kek surly you jest. that shit was all over mmosAnd everyone caught was despised. You are crazy delusional if you think it was celebrated or accepted.
>>115907676>"everyone else online is a man"This was literally 99% true, most everyone was some sort of tech bro or nerdy college computer lab dweller for a time
>>115907794It was ignored or made fun of. Theyd call him a faggot and move on.There would be no drama, like at all. It was for all intents and purposes, normalized. Spooky liberal word there, but its true. People played girl characters all the time, and simps who gave them money were called retards for giving money to a dude. Thats it. No drama, no scandal, no "i cant believe he betrayed me like this, my god, people are defending him". No, i dont care about him, your fault for trading your rune scimmy
I saw it, so now you you have to see it too
>>115907851Bruh a dude pretending to be woman(NOT a dude playing a female character, thats not the same thing) would get shit on forever. Their scamming of people by pretending to be a girl would always be brought up. Did you even play any online games?
>>115907910what star wars character is this
I'm glad your shitty grifter general is on flames right now
>>115907981I thought the heat was from my fever.
>>115907920My Quake clan would never have accepted a dude who pretended to be a womanThe leader did let an actual woman join at one point, god what a fucking mistake>>115907945It's The BRIDGE CEO lady, someone in kircord had Grok or whatever turn her into a cosmic horror
>is on flames
>>115907910
>>115907920Miridia scamming people in DFO by pretending to be a Korean girl was still brought up 8 years later when DFO relaunched and he joined with the same name kek.
>>115907981>on flamesrent free esl retard, this is nothing
>>115907920>Bruh a dude pretending to be woman(NOT a dude playing a female character, thats not the same thing) would get shit on forever.NTA but sure the pretender would get shit on, but not forever they would eventually fuck off, the people who got the majority of the shit would be the retards who fell for it and you would be rightfully ridiculed for your stupidity and simping for what you thought was a woman.
>>115908087>4 hours threads full of low quality post >nothing Sure kid sure whatever helps you sleep well at night
>>115908179Erm... English please?
>full of low quality post
>4 hours threads
>>115908231fuck off, turbowhore
>>115908179Is your ongoing discussion destroying your izzat that quickly?
>>115908179Saaarrr
>>115908173Scammers generally had alt accounts/characters they unloaded the goods in. 99% get away scottfree because they're never seen again
>>115906260[UPDATE]: I have finished the trilogy. Celestium is a real one. Now I'm doubly glad leaflit and co have had her back in the past. She deserves it.
>>115908351>leaflit and co had her, back in the pastZam she got passed around
>>115908437cum onto others as you would have others cum onto you.t. jesus manuel christano
>>115907851Those were simpler and funnier times.
>>115908520The times before women
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