Alana the Frostfire Fox shitposter+ discussion of Kirsche and Leaflit included>YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@SmugAlana>Clipshttps://www.youtube.com/@SmugAlanaVtuberClips>VODshttps://www.youtube.com/@smugalanavods>Twitterhttps://x.com/SmugAlana>Twitchhttps://www.twitch.tv/smugalana>Discordhttps://discord.gg/smugalanaLeaflit: https://www.youtube.com/@LeaflitAsari/https://youtube.com/@slimecoreradiohttps://www.twitch.tv/Leaflithttps://kick.com/leaflithttps://rumble.com/c/LeaflitKirsche: https://www.youtube.com/@KirscheVerstahl/https://www.twitch.tv/Kirschehttps://kick.com/kirschePrevious: >>115837055
>>115856165I love my Alana rapewife
>>115856165Kitsunero:https://www.twitch.tv/kitsunerohttps://www.youtube.com/@KitsuneroRosiebellmoo:https://www.twitch.tv/rosiebellmoohttps://www.youtube.com/@RosiebellmooSquChanhttps://www.twitch.tv/squchanhttps://www.youtube.com/@SquChanBerry Crepe:https://twitch.tv/berrycrepehttps://youtube.com/@berrycrepeMintzey:https://twitch.tv/mintzeymoon/https://youtube.com/@mintzeymoonCypress:https://twitch.tv/vtubercypress/https://youtube.com/@vtubercypressAmalgamytehttps://youtube.com/@amalgamytehttps://kick.com/amalgamytePawshttps://www.twitch.tv/pawshttps://www.youtube.com/@pawsvtuberPowdurhttps://twitch.tv/powdurhttps://kick.com/powdurhttps://youtube.com/@powdurNyanijihttps://twitch.tv/nyanijihttps://youtube.com/@nyaniji
How much longer will this Ember shit go on before the locusts move on? I'm already tired of talking about it.
Not really relevant to anything but I just found it funny, the amount of times I've seen this dude under any post either pushing back on strawb, or defending ember to even the smallest degree. Bro looks like he posting about attending the latest maga rally yet he's in vtuber shit defending strawb's honor.
>>115856245We still need kirsche's garbage take on friday.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HRjPhdsz6ygIt's up
>>115856272>using (presumably) your IRL name and picture in an online profileHoly fucking normalfag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBu92SHOYFcIt's up
https://youtube.com/watch?v=g5OV4iiBik4https://youtube.com/watch?v=rxcVq3X5RpQhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=ivORT5POt30It's up
>>115856343It's kind of depressing how internet protocol went from 'never put your personal info online' to 'here's an entire profile of me that includes my full name, selfie, DoB, location, family, friend group, education history, job history, likes and dislikes, etc'
>>115856357
>>115856421The change was on purpose at the behest of the CIA and DARPA. Look into In-Q-Tel and LifeLog.Don't need to make an elaborate surveillance state if people will volunteer the information.
>>115856421with the increasing obliteration of anonymity in general through subtle means and the constant incentive/desire to be rewarded in some fashion which requires giving up vulnerable parts of one's identity, most simply just don't bother. factor in the stupid overconfidence that sometimes comes with "if i don't have nothing to hide then...", and it gets bad
>>115856416sticking bent gun barrels up alana's coochie
Cant believe Alana didnt talk about getting spanked by her parents before stream. I dont get why she finds the need to hide it. Is she worried her antis will use it as ammo or something.
>>115856502>>115856529Also why they're trying to regulate away online anonymity with "ID verification" shit everywhere. They know there exists a generation of internet oldfags like us that knew better than to fall for the "give us all your information" psyop so now they're looking to lock you out of the platforms altogether if you don't comply.
Did some chuubas really get catfished by a dude with a voice changer? The first time I saw an Ember stream I clocked that guy from a mile away.
>>115856245Probably a week unless some bigger drama comes out.
>>115856612Women are mental midgets, of course they got fooled. That's why the divide in reactions is so stark. >males: why are you mad? it was obvious.>some chuubas and their simps: this is a massive betrayal of trust
Not surprising but I was indeed correct in my assumption that kirsche got oneshot by the ember shit because it tapped her dislike of dudes pretending to be women online.
>>1158564163rd thumbnail is pretty good kek
>>115856740that and it tapped her dislike of LIARS
jesus christ what is that disgusting thing Alana just raided and why is it with Ray?
computer, generate layna raping alana with a 12 inch strapon in a hot tub
>>115856740and? she's in the right. Ember was wrong for doing the larp for so long. Strawb is in the wrong for trying to do the Phuta Phil shit and raise herself by claiming embers head then trying to get others to cry rape or whatever. Kirsche for her part is completely fine in her opinions.
>The guy who made the powdur hitpiece is african Lmfao
>>115856911
>>115856911Computer generate korsches. Now give them autonomy. Safety protocols off.
>>115856416>PokimaneThere we go, something I care even less about than the Ember or Ethan Klein drama
>>115857074
>Kirsche being magnanimous towards EmberWell that's good
Computer, generate Alana cuddling on the couch with me while we eat cheddar cheese popcorn and watch the entire 1981 Urusei Yatsura series
Ngl when I first posted the ember stuff here I wasn't expecting it to blow up this big lol
>>115857204buck broken
>>115857180yeah i realized i fucked up.
>>115856579Funny thing is even Zoomers are catching onto this shit. They were just born into this stuff already existing and think it's stupid. All the censorship didn't help with trying to run this under the radar for them and likely made it more obvious for them.
>>115857204>There were death threats>May we see them?>...No.Every fuckin time.
>>115857204kirsche has her woman moments but she can usually be reasoned with.>>115857305That's because piss queen strawb tried to clout farm too hard and it blew up in her face. Everyone agrees ember shouldn't have extended the charade into private interaction with friends, but strawb's and mariagrace's actions way overshadowed any wrong doing on ember's part.
>>115857453People need to remember strawb was a leftist that was making lewd asmr before she became chud christpilled vtuber. Pulling out the death threats to deflect is right out of the woke playbook.
>>115857453>>115857526No, it was something that actually happened. But it was only one person.https://x.com/NNeoVT/status/2115536103071744331
>>115857453Holy fuck you are desperate to defend this troon
>>115857633That's fucking generous for being a death threat.>>115857704>Calling out the same lie larp we've seen countless timesIf anything I think everyone involved in defending the troon is lying, including the troon trying to double down and guilt trip everyone else over "morality" so called.
>>115857633And ember talked like he knew who it was, so not faking this time.>>115857704nta but in this situation, I would absolutely side with the troon against the likes of strawb and maria. I really don't envy celestium in this, who seemingly wants to rebuild her friendship with ember while also watching strawb pulling her meangirl shit, and maria effectively attempting to metoo him.
Can we pls post korsches?
>>115857995That was the wrong picture
>>115857995Korschence Thomas.
Anyway, this whole situation has made me dislike Tectone even moreDrama farming faggot>>115857995Can we pls post korsches?Sure
>>115858169
Anyone else noticed that almost every 'non political' react andy has been reacting to chuddier and chuddier videos recently? Fucking Rosie watches basic logic now kek
>>115858304culture is shifting. the feds just announced their going after that tranny terrorist group.
>>115858304Chuds have the best content on modern youtube.
>>115858304>rosie>basic logicLiterally where?
In case you've been jonesing for a hit of FoxuTomorrow
>>115858234Its funny cause Leaflit actually did make this joke
>>115857995
Based shoe going off on troons
Read through Kirsche responses. Seems like she would be open to shitting on Strawb, but she refuses to stop putting all her attention on Ember.
>>115859023I will forgive her because she's a foid and out of her element>that one dude on twitter who publicly sexted with "her"lord intellectual? I think he's fine.
>>115859058Just remember to say I told you so when strawb takes a shot at kirsche when she's fighting with some letfoid freak.
>>115858234Powdussy
Can we swap out Tazuto for this guy? It would make Leaflit streams way, way more enjoyable.
>>115860239you>I hate tazuto in leaf's stream becuase she's always getting one guy'd by him for hours at a time!Me, and intellectual>I like tazuto in leaf's stream because it's a whitepill showing it's possible for leftoids and rightoids to be friends.
Tazuto is leaflit's boyfriend and their arguments are kayfabe
>>115860493>leaflit will never humiliate you on stream then suck your dick afterwards to make it up to youwhy live?
>>115859640I honestly have no idea what kind of dirt she could have on Kirsche though, pretty much every "bad" thing about her is public knowledge.
>>115860588It will be retarded, whatever it is.
>>115860588Rev's love of femboys is kirsche's fault
>turning the tables on the african synthcel>rightfully calling the ember shit a nothingburger I guess I can't fight it any longer. I'm ready to simp for you, my queen. I'm coming home.
>>115856962Even worse, south African yet such a retard.
to the posters that have mentioned zentreya, it's starting.
>>115858304The post-WW2 consensus is coming to an end, and the people of the west are slowly waking up from the globohomo fever dream.Things are moving, but as the old order gets backed into a corner it will increasingly lash out, and there will be more and more bad actors looking for any power vacuums they can exploit.Stay fit, be vigilant, and form real networks of local people who can be trusted. But, like, for real tho.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=9rcUA1BmCqMIt's up
>>115861449but is Modernity coming to an end? are we going back a century or five?
Powdur reacts to her synthcel videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cw4CemC_dsLeaflit reacts to Powdur reacting to her synthcel videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhGJJBoV1P8
>>115862284I'm not sure if you're mocking me or not, sorry.There's no such thing as back, only forward. I don't think there's any reason to believe high technology is going to straight evaporate.Even if, for example, France became a third world islamic shithole. It would be a present day third world islamic shithole, with the accompanying pockets of technological society alongside vast degenerated poverty and rotting streets.
>>115861319>Now that's what I call a gender reveal!
>>115862823Technology isn't going anywhere. Get wise on networks such as I2P which is a much safer alternative to the TOR network and far less Feds. The cool thing about I2P is it can be used to create a meshnet not reliant on the actual internet at all. The great thing about that is it'll be the Great Reset for the internet as a whole taking us back to the 2000 era and before. No normies, no jeets, no bots and no glow in the darks/special interest groups. I2P is also preferable over TOR because you can actually use torrents over those networks without them going at the speed of slug.As far as old hardware goes, horde it. It'll be useful later on, even the out of date stuff. Horde digital software etc. Vidya, movies, TV shows, Music, Books. Get external hard drives to store it all, you'll need them. Tech will be fine for the foreseeable time going forward. How you maintain your communities, feed yourself, get your medicine and keep the "law" afterwords is all up to you.
>>115862507I'm really worried that the paid model that Powdur is waiting on will be a downgrade. I've grown too used to her cute elf face
>>115864120buy an ad
>>115864120>I've grown too used to her cute elf faceThat's how I feel about Kirsche's goofy beach model face at this point
>>115864221especially when she already came out with the business suit model and it was, understandably, serious and barely emotive. I think as long as she tweaks all the tracking sliders to max so any face movement will make the model spaz out, it might be ok
>>115864166buy this*grabs dick*
>>115861319Epic, I have waited many years for this, I block every clipper I see posting that male.
>>115864887>that power gapStrawb should take whatever the schizo is offering and go after zen. It would be so fucking funny.
bros...
buy an ad, freak
>>115865287>buy an ad>when posting is freenot a lot of brain cells rolling around in that noggin of yours, huh?
>>115856165she looks like her anus smells good
>>115865427her anus is her weakspot
>>115865427
>>115865716I recognize Anal Violence but who are these other troons
>>115865743Toge is Clara's new indie vtuber persona
>>115865743togepega is clara
>>115865777>>115865780Oh goddammit.
>>115865716It's so funny to me when I see phil show up with a drive by post under some tweet. It's like a running gag.
>>115865716>>115865777Leaflit approves this post
>>115865911How many chud tubers actually hate trannies? Leaf doesn't. Kirsche doesn't.
>>115864120Yeah, a bit, but the previous model was also pretty good, so I’m hoping it’ll turn out fine.
>>115864221Ok true
>>115861319I thought it was common knowledge for Zen that they were a male. Didn't they come out and say it like 3 years ago?
>>1158659505
*rips bong*I have to admit, blud got a point. I've noticed during stream kirsche has a tendency to just believe anything chatters throw at her. not all the time, but enough of the time. it's not too bad during stream since usually another chatter will correct what the other chatter said, but she has no such fact checker outside of stream.
>>115868212>Mr. ObviousWhat's the point of bringing in that beaner lolcow?
>>115868261pls stay on the topic of kirsche being a dumb woman.
God I love Alanas new model.I wanna fuck the shit out of her
>>115868333Get in line, bub
>>115866719You could say the same about ember, I mean the dudes are gonna slip up eventually. Thing is everything about zen has been largely buried by time, nobody bothered calling it out and there are even rrats that he was waiting to train his gf to assume the role of zen, but the tts suggests that never came to fruition
>>115867551force feeding breath mints to alana’s anus
>>115868308if words hurt that much maybe it’s better that you stay on twitter, mister obvious
>>115868429Personally I just don't see it as something to really care about if the vtuber isn't doing GFE type stuff. It's just a preference thing like, I prefer the puppeteer to match the puppet gender wise.
>>115868429> nobody bothered calling it outThen it wasn't a problem. If he was being sex-pest groomer or whatever like Anal Violence then I get it, but even Ray from Achievement Hunters hung out with Zen and that autist has incredible Opsec. If Zen was that bad then no one would touch them. This just seems coordinated at this point. I am going to be a tinfoil fag, fuck it. I cannot assume this is organic at this point and fuck Strawb for kicking it off.
>>115868261So if the barometer that one is pretending to be a woman or that they wrote smut fanfiction. I am trying to follow your logic. By the way Kirsche wanted to be a lewd-tuber. She has a lewd-voice ready to go and even sold a mouse pad with anus rings on it.
>>115868955What?
>>115859023One thing I'd agree on is Ember should eventually also clear out what he is. People call him F1ns3r fag, AGP, grifter or troon and one can not make sense of motivations or goals for his LARPing as a girl.
>Ember defenders are shifting goalposts again and now defending forced transition rape fantasies Oh I'm noticing. That other anon was right
>>115860691>InB4 it turns out Kirsche called Rev cute 10 years ago.
>>115869052You know what, I'm not actually gonna speculate where the dude's head is at since I haven't watched the stream where he laid it all out on the table. All I know is a second hand mention that he said when he's streaming as ember, he feels like a woman. Outside of that, he feels normal.>>115869099I've seen people say the books are fantasies for sexual gratification, and I've seen others say they're supposed to be traumatic and horrifying. I'm never going to bother reading any of his work so it's not a tree I'm interested in barking up.
>>115869002>I am failing at pretending to be understandWhat is the problem then? Is it bad to make smut-fanficton or is that only true if you pretend to be a woman? Kirsche is friends with Strawb and Strawb did that but was a woman unlike Ember, who also did that. So what is the line? Also you are poorly larping faggot. I wish you the best of luck in your response.
>>115869224>I am failing at pretending to be understandFuck.Also I am super drunk, but its fun to realize that I am still going toe to toe with these 3rd worlders. Grim.
>>115869224personally I'm stuck at the anus mouse pad, do you have a picture of it
>mariagrace shows up in ember's confession stream>she's joking around with him. seems to be taking the whole thing in stride>some time later>she's throwing him under the bus in a reply to tectone>starts paining him as a predator that was pushing sexuality on the girlsI never get used to how women can just turn on a dime as if they all have BPD. One minute you're both joking around and you think everything is chill, the next she's calling you a creep that was perving on her. These hoes ain't loyal man.
>>115869290It was done by basedkawaii you can find them on danbooru. It was a commission from Kir herself. Here is the official artwork. The mousepad is based off of that and I am stroking it right now.
>>115869567that is indeed kirsche's anus, nice
>>115869567alananus in jeopardy over steep competition
I feel bad for Ember hope (s)he doesn't kill himself.
>>115868212>Mr. Sexpest Lmao
>>115870279>nines Oh look, it's the freak that talked one of her friends into getting an abortion.
>>115868915>calling out troons in your hobby could only be coordinated because nobody stopped them until nowWe are coming for all your favourite trans vtubers
>>115870375Thoughts on the guy used ITT to shit on Kirsche being a sexpest?
>>115870517Shit, nigga. Then go do it. Fuck, don't wait for my permission. Go do it. You have my blessing. Get it done. Go be the hero. You waited 9 years, but I guess better late then never. I await your google docy.
>>115870517Elara next. That's an obvious man pretending to be a woman with a voicechanger
>>115868212>Believe anything chatters throw at herI swear antis say the absolute most retarded shit. Like the first fucking thing kirsche does is ask for receipts or links whenever chatters bring something to her attention because she does want to get one guy'd.
Watching Powdur's latest VOD. She has now outright stated that she views what Strawb did as "Malicious" and that she is "a snake."
Anal.
>>115856676thats why theyre crashing out so hard and doubling down continuing this witch hunt: they feel tricked becayse they fell for it because theyre stupid as fuck. as an anon wisely put it last thread - only women would be mad at ember for larping, and only retards wouldnt immediately clock the voicechanger (that was never hidden), then put 2 & 2 together. strawb (and apparently kirsche lol) is both
>>115872134>only women would be mad at a man pretending to be a woman What a strange thing to say
>>115868212either>i dont know what that isand moves on without even considering taking 2 seconds to look it up or>yeah! exactly! true and real! i say that!when the comment is hust parroting a twitter post kirsche forgot she posted months ago
>>115872208II's kind of true though, most guys have that moment where that "girl" they were playing that video game with (especially an mmo where this is common) or were chatting to then turned out to be a dude. The response to this "shocking revelation" is that you feel kind of stupid for a bit then move on. Only a women would have a full on meltdown over it.
>>115870106Where is your faith? your conviction? You should be Unstoppable, Undeniable, Unbreakable, Untiring, Unflinching, Unyielding, Unrelenting in your love for alanus
>>115872208only women would be threatened by men larping as women on the internet, yes. it only matters in terms of competition (finite audience share) and romance. there is no "womens only space" to infiltrate. A group DM is not a girls locker roomLying by omission to be in character is not lying maliciously to take advantage. whereas strawb iland tectone are clearly malicious. "i just dont like liars" is such a wild angle for strawb, considering shes mever not spoken from both sides of her mouth
>>115870279wtf am I reading and who are these people
>>115869315Pickmes deserve this kind of shit tbqhwyfamalamdingdong
>>115863719Best practice your jugaad, because India is not for begginers saar.
[News] Moonshine will debut his Alana in dead space animation during alanas stream today
>>115857453Here's the thing Bucko. Death threats on the internet are real. I get them every day myself. But the big thing is that all of us oldfags pretty much laugh em off and we cringe anytime it's used as a way to say X people sending me death threats woe is me. Now if they go from sending DMs to doing IRL shit that's completely different.
>>115864970If Strawb had the guts she would go after Zentraya. I mean, if she was this passionate about a Chudtuber, going after a Wokey one shouldn't be an issue, Right?
>Ember himself said that men pretending to be women to get into women's spaces are disgusting and should be vilified Uh oh!
>>115864970I think a lot of people already know zen is a dude.
>>115873419Alana when she puts her ass on ice after eating a carolina reaper
>>115861319It’s been “starting” for years and it doesn’t stick because people who aren’t chuds don’t give a shit
Craig and Blabs show feat. Kirschehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFmA7j7lEJc
Looks like that Tactical templar faggot had a hand in making that failed Powdur hitpiece
>>115873816What's the viewership ratio between the original video and powders one making fun of it?
>>115874181Faggots video: 115k views, 1.6k likes, every comment is making fun of him Powdur video: 264k views, 15k likes
>>115869224It's exactly the agp aspect that Kirsche has a problem with. Especially if the fag was using it to get into woman friend groups. The closest thing you can relate it to is pretending to be gay to get girls to like you.
>>115875017>agpNTA and maybe i'm too old but the fuck is this?
>>115868955ecchi really is a lost are against porn brained zoomers it seems.
My respect for Powdur has absolutely skyrocketed after her comments on all of this. It's essentially Leaflit's take, but she's less reserved when it comes to outright shitting on Strawb. I'm definitely going to be treating her as much more credible chuuba in this space.Please, Alana. Don't comment on any of this. Just stay out of it.
Oh boy, Kirsche has uncorked and is fizzing all over
>>115868955why are trying to defend a troon?https://x.com/MadamSavvy/status/2115826978922078683?a=tM5YX9ryFtmKEPDLdLc&s=19
>>115875091Google it grandpanot gonna spoon feed and if your retarded ass doesn't even know about this you shouldn't even be part of rhe conversation.
>>115875118We should add Powdur to the OP pasta!
>>115875266So it's a nothing burger that you can't even describe got it thanks!
>>115875368You got that wrong.The anti's mantra is "based let's add her to the op"
The reason you're never going to see these women call out Zentreya like they did Ember is because Zentreya makes money and they want the in.I don't know if it's not obvious to other people but that's the reason if you're confused why nobody has called them out on also being a man.
>>115875387retard
>>115875368I would agree, but then we're opening the door to everyone else who keep wanting to put their favorite smugchuuba into the OP.
>>115861125How do you witness such atrocities on a daily basis and still be such a deluded psycho? Like buddy you are living in a hellscape created by the people you are supporting. Doing vtuber hit pieces isn't helping your communities that require armed surveillance 24/7. You have to travel from one bunker to the next just to live life in a normal capacity. What makes men this pathetic?
>>115875368Oh we looping this shit again?
>>115866719It has been common knowledge but vsjfags and vshojos paid jannies worked overtime to bury the proof every single time it got posted
The only loop I want to see is Alana's anus looped around my tongue
>>115875815
>>115875794I thought zentreya origin story was that it was originally a dude helping his gf become a vtuber but they split up and seeing as he already had the model he just used it himself while playing games and was originally a mix of mute/text to speech before later adopting the current voice program
>>115875368Good to know threadshitter is always lurking here
>>115875965Zen has always been a man. the girfriend thing comes form that time he tried to use her girlfriend for a "voice reveal" and was immediately caught and heard talking on the background
>>115875965It's basically one of those "Fuck I'm already in too deep to stop now" type things. It makes sense why he has mental breakdowns all the time. Living a lie is kinda rough. Though if he is just a guy with AGP (even if I think that's gross) I could almost live with it. He makes good goonsmut and being a man helps with that. So just for the character I could live with it.
>>115875815Do you think Alana would ever doing anything with her butt? I don't know if I could imagine her being a butt slut. I would love the concept but I just don't see her doing it without chad trying to coerce her.
>>115876223After all the rapeposting you still think she gets any say in the matter?
>>115876223She's probably done anal before despite saying otherwise
>>115876223Alana is Russian, albeit westernizedRussian women all love anal>t. dated a Russian girl in college, she was anal only despite being the dom in our relationshipI ate a LOT of ass dating her, let's put it that way.
>>115875965You're partially right, there was a very very short time where his girlfriend controlled the model/chat while he played the video games.
Which actually now I think about it, is actually the reason they were never a sex pest. They were never single since debut.
>>115864120I miss her oni models desu
>>115876631Ether that or they were smart enough to realize being a creep in DMs ain't worth pissing away an easy ass job and the high income that comes with a high CCV. It's the same reason I think Vedal has also not done dumb shit.
>>115875965>>115876108I remember seeing a video where there was a girl and a guy, and at one point someone in chat mentions some stream in-joke or whatever is that a regular would know, and the girl was clueless about it while the guy had the response.
>>115876890Yeah, that's the voice reveal stream that you get vacationed for posting
>>115857262Her forehead is huge
>>115876925More landing space for your cum
>Ember drama still going>Christcucks already looking to target more people to delegitimize them as not being "real right wingers"God I am so tired of this faggotry, Sane exact behavior as leftoids.
>>115877061It's kind of why I'm glad Alana hasn't touched this dumb shit drama. It's a place to get away from it
>>115877061No true scotsman shit is so faggy it's unreal.
>>115877061>already looking to target more people to delegitimize themSource? Haven't seen that one.
https://www.twitch.tv/smugalanaanus
>>115877194Already seeing goons trying to go after Leaflit for not sufficiently hating on Ember
>>115875242This WOMEN'S SPACES spell casting has no effect on me, especially when the dude wasn't chasing tail.>BUT HE'S A FUCKING TROOOOOOONWhy should I care? If you're going to actually try and persuade me, do not nigger loop on muh women's spaces.
>>115877336>Troon chaseropinion discarded get your ass back into faggot occos chat
>>115877336As if there aren't a quintillion safe women only spaces online and offline. Male only spaces are so fucking rare i'm can't even comprehend what they're like.
>>115877230So literal randoms. Not sure why you brought this up in here.
>>115877558This all started with strawb dropping the nuke while Ember was arguing with some rando.
>>115877536Even if male only spaces exist it is only matter of time that some bitch starts whining about not getting in and more often than not some simp folds immediately
>>115877459You're one of those culture war brained retards that thinks you're in good company just because the people around you aren't deranged leftists. Two of the biggest lightning rods on the chud tuber side, kirsche and leaflit, are cool with trannies.
>>115877590Is Strawb specifically going after Leaflit or is it literal whos?
>>115877536Male only spaces are quite literally illegal.
>>115877635tell that to the masons
>>115877536>Male only spaces You mean a construction site? Lumberjack company? Coal mines.
>>115877630I'm wary of that happening, yes, considering strawb is pretty much always stirring shit.
>>115856676It's the least shocking example of vtuber catfishing, I still remember that "based nazi" chuuba that turned to not just be a guy but was also jewish
>>115877775Well, let me know when she does. I doubt she will, though. She would be eaten alive if she tried to go after Leaflit.
>>115877630>>115877775>strawbs meangirl lackey, mariagrace, watching the same commentary slopper that went after leaflit for over a week straightIt's only a matter of time before they find the next target.
>>115877782>that "based nazi" chuuba that turned to not just be a guy but was also jewishbut enough about kershe
>>115877782>nazi miku is jewishis this the textbook definition of grifting?
>>115877630Did Strawb pile on Leaflit during the discord drama? I was backpacking during that time, so I don't really know which insufferable woke right creators were involved with that cancellation attempt.
>>115877782He was dunking on ember too as if he didn't get caught doing the same thing. Jews have no shame.
Alana handing out candy again
>>115877894Oy vey, it ain't a grift!He was in it for the narrative control, goyim. You gotta respect the chutzpah!
>>115877894It's the torah definition of grifting, yes
>>115877908Good question. People have historically never paid attention to her. She's only relevant now due to embedding herself in people who are relevant.
>>115877919
>>115877887Well at least you admit you're a tourist
>>115877612They're live and let live as long as they're an honest diagnosed troon and keep their distance. Not an agp freak like phil, klaus and "ember" mind you retards like you are moving the goal post to "oh no they aren't actually an anime girl" in a feeble attempt to rewrite history and act like ember was never straight up lying to be a woman. "He was playing a character the whole time guys!" Actual retards that for whatever reason are desperately trying to defend a troon.
>>115877914wtf he's still around?
>>115878053>ignores the extensive research on the israel-funded nazi fox>calls others touristsEducate yourself before posting again.TRAINED AND CREDENTIALED HISTORIANS have worked on her case. Your baseless chuddy opinions are nothing compared to the body of evidence.
>>115878027it's time
>>115878054Every (male) trannie is an agp freak deep down. I don't think that makes them any less deserving of pity or sympathy though.
>patrick stewart passed awayfuck
>>115878054I was gonna say I don't care about ember, but then I remember I did follow them out of spite last night because of how disgusting strawb and mariagrace have been in all this. So I guess I do care a little insofar that I hate seeing people get dragged by lying whores.Irregardless, I don't care about ember's transgressions because the harm cause is practically non existent. You putting him on the same level as anal violance, who tried to destroy kirsche's life and klaus (who supports transing kids) is fucking wild. What did ember do that warrants mentioning him in the same breath as those malicious actors?>he lied to womenAlright. I don't care about dumb foids failing to clock an obvious male with a voice changers, but I'll roll with it. What did he do with his nefarious deception of the foids? mariagrace already leaked the worst of their private chats and there was not a single predator exchange to be found so it seems like his master plan was to play pretend and be one of the girls. weird, but I don't really give a shit if no one was abused.
>>115876720You see, he's smart, because he's a man.It's just that easy. Don't be a creep in DMs.
>>115877061Have we gotten Tomics' opinion on all this? What does she think?>>115877230I think it's a good and progressive thing that Leaf is bringing in more trans women and vouching for them. We need more of this, IMO.
>>115878183aw man
>>115878183FUUUUUUUCK that's like two trek legends in a single week
>>1158781832026 has been an absolute celebrity bloodbath
>>115878376vaxx doesn't mix with ozempic very well
>>115878269>Don't be a creep in DMslol bro this ember shit is proof that won't save you>ember was constantly turning conversation sexual. I feel so violated!>damn, really? what would he do?>here are the chats. oh, I feel so betrayed!>these aren't that bad, you even egged him on at times. honestly this just looks like any group chat between friends. >w-well there's more, and worse stuff! I just need to get permission before posting it>...>so are you gonna post the other, more damning chats?>so he was obviously using me for sexual gratification! yes. clearly pretending to be a woman around me was his fetish and he was no doubt jorking it around me all the time.>what?>BELIEVE ALL WOMEN! THIS IS MY TRUTH!Moral of the story is, stay away from christcuck vtubers.
>it was a woman only space>get caught lying>it was a female *oriented* space >actually, I never said they were female only spaceswomen and accountability may as well be oil and water.
I lie to women all the time. I just never dress like Bugs Bunny with lipstick and a wig while doing it.You don't need to do what he did.
Angst theme for the current drama:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XemxFo2X_JYYou know, either that or the one about homosex earlier in the same album.
>>115878183I only liked him for director bullock on American Dad
>>115878529I don't care he did what he did. I care more that it was made my problem because the fallout is affecting my chuubas.
>>115878504Can people move on from this shit already. I just don't give a damn
>>115878621No. Kirsche has betrayed Ember despite Ember always siding with her. And now it seems they're going after Leaflit.
>Kirsche has betrayed ember I knew this faggot was a kirsche anti
>>115878621We've clearly picked up some dedicated shit stirrers over this. Probably leftoids who see this as their moment to "strike".
>>115878654Ember betrayed kirsche first by being a liar. Reacting to being betrayed doesn't magically make kirsche the betrayer
>>115878504I'm not even joking or nemeing when I say that I have once in my entire fucking life seen a woman take accountability for doing something wrong. [soiuler] It's actually the best litmus test for whether or not the person behind the avatar is an actual woman or not. Ember owning up to lying is incontrovertible proof that he's a dude.[/spoiler]
>>115878747Fucked my spoiler tags because my eyes are acting up goddammit
>>115878654>Kirsche has betrayed EmberThey weren't friends nigga. Kirsche stayed away from him because she had enough braincells to know ember was a dude. She's not a vindictive clout chasing whore like strawb though so she was magnanimous about it.
>>115878621This is going to linger for a little while, I think. Strawb got tectone involved and you know he's going to milk the fuck out of it, and some chuubas are going to react to tectone.I really hate how this grifting faggot has embeded himself in the chud sphere, and how our chuubas are too female to realize they're being farmed for content.
>Pretend to be a woman in order to manipulate people into supporting you because they only would if you were a woman, never a man Society
>>115876306>she was anal only >being the dom in our relationshipI hope your ass recovered, senpai
>>115879049It's a genuinely fucked up world us guys live in. I can totally understand why he did it.
>>115878878Remember that time Leaflit was so anxious of sending a DM to Tectone that she had to get her mom to write it for her? I think about wondering how she's feeling about that now.Same with all that time she spent dickriding Ember the last few months thinking he was just a hardcore lesbian. It has to be rough.
>>115879091>Same with all that time she spent dickriding EmberShe doesn't care. Leaf is a turbo autist that sees online friends as their avatar first, not the people behind it.
Oh. I didn't notice she outright posted this earlier. I expected her to continue remaining out of this.I'm really, really proud of Leaflit today. I expected her to just not participate in the discussion. She did a good thing.https://x.com/Leaflit/status/2115817824925229205
>>115879263I've come to like leaflit a lot since her autism tends to overrule her woman brain.
>printer hate hourbased, shame there's no money in making printers without all the bullshit so there's no incentive to make good printers
kekcelestium is the only christcuck vtuber involved in this I still have a baseline level of respect for since she didn't kneejerk emotionally or join the dogpiling. Which, when you think about, lends more credence to the rrat that she is a male using a voice changer too kek.
>>115879791>Which, when you think about, lends more credence to the rrat that she is a male using a voice changer too kek.Brother, her name is Celeste. What do you think?
>>115879066Oh no, we never did that. That was a different girl.It was just if there ever was penetrative sex involving my dick and her, it was going in her ass.She was fun, I miss her sometimes.
>>115879833The name celeste has existed for a long time before the game of the same name that didn't even have a trans protag until the creator himself trooned out and retconned his game to reflect irl. Plus, a christian themed vtuber using a name that means heavenly isn't exactly head turning. And if you're gonna try and insist celeste is a tranny name like lilith or something, I'm gonna have you pump the brakes right there, chief.
alana anal annihilation
>>115879949>Anal onlyThe fuck? Was she a Christian girl trying to "save it" for marriage
Recognize the grift when you see it.
>>115880008She had vaginismus aka "tight pussy syndrome." It physically hurt her to put anything in there, so we didn't.She has a kid now so afaik she did get it resolved eventually.
>>115879990>And if you're gonna try and insist celeste is a tranny name like lilith or something, I'm gonna have you pump the brakes right there, chief.It is. The only thing you're going to be pumping is cock if you believe otherwise.You may want to update your references.
>>115877919Those shotas never had a chance....
>>115880167When you're a hammer, every nail looks like a tranny name.
>>115880227I can't remember if it was from last Halloween or the year before
>Netflix made a documentary about the Cornell 7 shit and it releases... todayLmao these fucking degenerates were working on this shit before it even got popular again
>>115880350Is that the case where some slut did drug and banged like 5 guys?
>>115880381She lied about getting raped by 7 guys, in reality she had 3 consensual gangbangs throughout the night
spanking mentioned
>>115880430I will assume none of that will be presented in the netflix doc
>>115880381no that's marimarithat's a different thread
>>115880591Some poor anon is going to have to dive on that grenade so the rest of us can hear who's side they took
>>115880640I'm sure shoe, tectone, or asmon will react to it and our chuubas will react to them reacting.
>>115880634Did marimari have some different yab recently?
>>115880701she did get banned from youtube for underage content recently
>>115879791Nah. As someone who has listened to Celestium plenty, she's not using a voice changer. It would've glitched out at least once by now.
Listening to rev's video about ember he questions what ember meant by "real trans community". I suppose this comes down to whether you think trannies are actually gender diaphoretic or only doing it for agp reasons.This seems to be why leaf as been so mad at trannies (and the left in general) being so lacks in policing their own as to now it is mostly filled with agp rapists or that's how it is generally seen as.
>>115881144>what ember meant by "real trans community".Normalization of troons on the right here we go.
a smug anus in dead space
>>115881144Take anything rev says with a grain of salt. Dude just just drama farming, he's not being genuine.>>115881229Most people on the right are grill fags that got forced into the culture war because the left eventually took ground where they are. The most popular cheerleaders on the right in this area are grill fags. If the left wasn't taking over everything; kirsche would be reacting to shit like caleb hammer and playing games, leaflit would be talking about anime and her TTRPG, rev would be ERPing on x, and strawb would be porn ASMR about getting peed on.
R A P E D
kek chuds are fighting over troons now and listening to ai slop songs about british cartoons made by an indian, you can't make this shit up
>>115881229I'm just more libertarian and not hardcore christpilled.Close the boarder, let me smoke my weed
>>115881567So why did you let christkikes into your movement?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QKz4YGHyxs8&pp=0gcJCSsMAYcqIYzvIt's up
I feel like there's something to be studied from all this that the men who are pretending to be women but aren't taking estrogen, and the women who are low on natural estrogen are the ones taking accountability, apologizing, and staying out of the bullshit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGeWOJgKvGQIt's up
>14 minute stop motion animated highlight reeldoes moonshine get paid to do this or does he just love vtubers?
>>115881669he just loves vtubers
>nyaniji playing the grim incest vn game>see this in chatWe continue to have containment breakers.
ChaCha's Cha Chas...
Ember is a lying troon, but the attempts to spawn some kind of #MeToo garbage out of this is ridiculous (unless there's some shit out there that hasn't been shared yet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRIiiebGEIkIT'S UP
https://youtube.com/watch?v=jgBVrloWiRYhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=2m9xwFurOaU&pp=0gcJCSsMAYcqIYzvIt's up
>>115881712buy an ad
scaredalana
>>115881741I always forget how stacked her model is. I'm usually doing something else while listening. When I tab back over I'm always shocked at just how sex she is.
>>115881654WAIT BAT SOUNDS LIKE THAT? What the fuck?I've seen /vt/ batposting since forever but I had never heard her voice before.Sounds like an ultra aunt. Also is that a dude on stream?
>>115881909Why does he sound so zesty?
>>115881905Kirsches new model debuts tomorrow and is made by Cha chas guy, hopefully the tits are huge
>>115881983God I wish Kirsche deserves massive milk tits for all the bullshit she has gone through to get a model. She deserves to bounce and hear the world quake.
>>115881770>unless there's some shit out there that hasn't been shared yetIf there was, it would've been shared by now what with how hard strawb and co are trying to bury the guy. It's like people calling trump a pedo rapist then when you ask for real proof, they start nigger looping on epstein.
>>115880071I don't know much about this Don person, though he seems to be a shit stirrerAnd Tectone, of course, is the shit stirring kingFuck that dude. Chuubas will keep on glazing him though
>TheDonofEverything and HarmfulOnions are hopping in on thisAnd we have officially hit "I do not fucking care to listen to literally anything else regarding this shit" territory
>>115882209Once the week is over and every vtuber that has something to say will have said something, there will be no reason to ever bring this up again. ember apologized, the raped can chose to forgive or not, mariagrace's metoo moment died on the vine.
>>115881983>tomorrowIt debuts on Saturdayhttps://www.youtube.com/live/WFmA7j7lEJc?t=7440s
>>115856165>alana's content circling the drain so hard she's now just reacting to old videos of herself
>>115882305You clearly don't understand how drama fags work. In a month, either Rev or Strawb will see that Ember still has an audience and has commented on something on Twitter. Enter Rev pulling Ember up for one of his "this you? Hypocritical much?" bits that every single one of his dick sucking chuubas will glaze him for, starting the whole shit show over again.
>>115882419Rev has been like this ever since he was a orbiting anime youtubers like 15 years ago
>>115882419I hate that you're right.I also hate how some otherwise reasonable chuubas are seemingly not reasonable enough to recognize rev, his bitch, and tectone are only snakes here to poising the space. Their coordination and circlejerking during this ember shit should've turned more heads than it did. Instead we got ones like kirsche dancing to strawb's tune like a monkey with an organ grinder.
>>115882419Rev will probably hop on the next retarded shit Twitch Hollywood does and bury this in a week before he gets that glass house of his shattered.
>>115882394Alana is so scared of watching anything 'political' it's funny, because it's blatantly obvious she wants to say more 'hardcore' stuff, and absolutely could, but won't because of the few snowflakes in her audience. Like hell you've got cha cha and squ casually watching stuff like basic logic and deranged doomer, and then Alana won't do anything 'edgier' than Reggie. Speaking of that, her entire chat was spamming SAAARRR when he was making fun of indians in his latest video; like just own it at this point and stop being worried about some fags getting upset at you. One thing I will give her credit for though is she's been absolutely ruthless to woke game devs recently
>>115882505Won't happen. You could put his past on the front page of every right wing chuuba's twitter out there, and they still wouldn't give a damn because "it's in the past, he's changed". The only thing that'll get people to stop supporting Rev is if he grows a pair of balls and tries to cancel Kirsche or Asmon.
>>115882556Women aren't mentally equipped to talk about politics. There are exceptions, but they are very few. Alana doesn't strike me as one of the exceptions.
>>115882556probably 50% of her refusing is because troonics would have another meltdown
>>115882556she does not want to talk about politics on stream and there's nothing wrong with thatshe's not obligated to talk about anything she doesn't want to
Alana news update: Monday will be her last stream before her break
>>115882851Go away tomics
>>115882851hi tomics
>>115882586Considering Strawb has been gathering blackmail and holding onto it until opportune times arise its only a matter of time.
Why does Tomics have so many fanboys in here?
>>115883004Because he is a mouth-breathing troglodyte that makes Alanas streams worse
>>115882962>kirshe dunking on some woke freak on twitter >suddenly, strawb>um didn't you let a jew fuck your face until you puked, and them let him keep fucking your face until he cummed?Is how I imagine it would go.
>>115883099Considering that Kirsche betrayed Ember, I doubt she would attack Strawb
>>115882851dilate tomics
>Kirsche betrayed EmberHe keeps saying this despite Kirsche never interacting with him. I think it actually is Ember here inventing fanfiction to push a narrative. I'm sure it's just a coincidence a bunch of posts defending ember are also seething over Kirsche
>>115883145Kirsche doesn't know Ember that way to betray him, she was never friends nor really interacted with Ember outside of that one part of her stream railing on Youtube fucking everyone.
>>115883291That's a bingo
>>115883145Trying to push that angle again, eh?
>>115883291>seething over KirscheIt's okay to give kirsche a finger wagging when she's having a woman moment. She acted like a stubborn cunt when the attacks on leaflit were going on and she kept handwaving chatters that were trying to tell her harmful opinions trooned the fuck out since the gamergate days and is now a bad faith actor.
tomics is my girlfriend
Ember could 41 percent tomorrow and I wouldn't give a single fuck, I just think Strawb is a complete fucking snake and I think it's only a matter of time before she tries to go after Kirsche or Leaflit.
This whole Ember drama has been Right Message Wrong Messenger. If Strawb hadn't spent the last 6 months starting pointless drama with Powdur and others while admitting to participating in gay ops nearly nobody would be defending that faggot and we'd be done already.
This drama would've never happened if Ember didn't pretend to be a woman. That's it. Whoever exposed him is irrelevant
>>115883587If it had been done correctly, it would've been a private matter no one would've known about until strawb made a reveal post or ember made a confession post depending on how a private confrontation went.>>115883687Even if you believe the old moviebob line of 'there are no bad tactics, just bad targets', you would still have mariagrace coming in to try and paint ember as some sexual predator for god knows what reason when all the evidence she posted herself shows the opposite, thus still overshadowing the initial issue. Like, okay I understand ember lied about his gender but why the FUCK are you trying to do a metoo as well?
What a timeloop
>>115883687Yet it looks like Ember is going to get out of this largely unscathed while everyone burns down each other because of the retards that exposed this tranny.
Smuggalos pls accept my apology for derailing the entire thread with my post suggesting the anon spamming "buy an ad" is indian, he's so heckin valid and the jannies work very hard for their money.
>>115883841>Ember getting out of this largely unscathed He's already lost thousands of subscribers in 2 days, almost every one of his 'close friends' has disowned him, and he'll likely never collab again. Whether you like it or not Strawb is pretty much immune because she's attached to Rev, one of the biggest drama channels on youtube
>>115883841>it looks like Ember is going to get out of this largely unscathedI don't see why he shouldn't. Maybe it's because all the talk about him being a sexual predator set the bar too high so the crime of larping as a woman in the most tame way is just, whatever. people that watched his stuff already knew.
>>115883940>He's already lost thousands of subscribers in 2 days, almost every one of his 'close friends' has disowned him, and he'll likely never collab againpeople said the same thing about sinder....
>>115883940>Whether you like it or not Strawb is pretty much immune because she's attached to Rev, one of the biggest drama channels on youtubeRev is going to slip up and go the way of Keemstar and Leafy eventually.
>>115883999sinder isn't a man who was pretending to be a woman though
>>115883999Sinder was a pure and virtuous woman brought low by whores. Ember was just a Babiniku in which whores try to attack him and claim to be a rapist.
>>115883999To be fair she's a pretty nice voice (albeit a lisp) and some fat tits. Two things that Ember troon definitely doesn't have.
>>115884030heyoooo
>>115884029Your pure and virtuous woman is fleshposting in fansly
>>115883999Sinder was a giga e-whore with an army of simps. Not comparable at all.
>>115884059And?
>>115883999Actually female vtubers have a built in simp audience who will always forgive them or attract people unaware of drama no matter what heinous shit they did.Being outed as a man is a bit different I would think but it doesn't help that his accusers are already roaching out. Feels like everything there was to drag him for has already peaked.
>>115884072Thought you might be interested
>>115883999Lmao Sinder was 20 times the size of ember. She bounced back for a plethora of reasons >She was big enough to still survive even after losing a shit ton of her audience >The main people who canceled her all either ate shit in some way or apologized>She has a hot model And most importantly>She's a woman with a lot of simps. Male vtubers for the most part do not get that luxury
>>115884097So you're not gonna post some proof or what?
The vtubing space would be peaceful (by its standards anyway) if both Ember and Strawb would just fuck off for a while. Honestly I have no idea why Rev just puts up with her shit considering all of his previous faggotry isn't even a secret, everybody knows about it.
>>115884094>using the ponut aussies anti fanartseek pretty view
>>115884181I already told what and where to look for so no
>>115884029he's an agp that larped as a woman for support. I defy you to prove otherwise.
Yeah I'll say it, Sinder's hot as fuck in real life. Perfect slampig body
>>115883940>He's already lost thousands of subscribers in 2 daysI couldn't find a snapshot of ember's account with followers visible to compare so I used grok. Grain of salt, of course, but it doesn't seem like he actually lost that many followers, unless I"m missing something.
>>115884246That's because this shit is all blown out of proportion and everyone already knew Ember was a dude already. Leaflit, Powdur, and Juju all were very aware. His audience was also pretty much all aware. This is genuinely a nothingburger and all that's happened is that Ember has become sympathetic in peoples' eyes due to the behavior of the mean girl squad.
>strawb is now saying it's not enough for ember to just apologize for the deception, he has to apologize for writing the books toofucking keksorry to those that just want this shit over and done with, rev's baby factory ain't done.
>>115884246https://twitchtracker.com/emberparadoxis one metric
>>115884473Isn't Rev's whole schtick defending fiction? What the hell is she doing.
>>115884473Fucking what?
>>115884480so minus a couple dozen followers on x, and minus over a couple hundred followers on twitch.the twitch loss seems like a decent chunk for a small time vtuber, but he's streaming right now to about 300 viewers so maybe it's not as bad. I dunno.
>>115884524>it's ok when we do itLeaf warned about this.Quangos gonna guango
>>115884480For what it looks like he is up on average viewers or barely anything has changed viewership wise?
>>115884246This is his YouTube. Today isn't counted for several hours so it'll likely be around the same loss as yesterday. Basically the longer this goes on the more subs he'll lose. This also puts into perspective that many people were in fact fooled by the voice changer
>>115884480I decided to watch some of the stream. Hearing "her" voice for the first time. Yeah, it's so fucking obvious kek. If you got fooled, it's your own damn fault.
>>115884675>many people were in fact fooled by the voice changerWasn't he recognized to be a man like months ago?
>>115884675>many people were in fact fooled by the voice changerHow many of those people actually watched him and didn't just sub to him because he was good friends with people they did watch, or just saw one of his videos enough to sub and never watch again?
>>115884686I'm sure the Indian community is devestated at the loss.>>115884710It's been known for close to the year now. It's only recently now being publicized.
>>115884675>youtubethose are the fickle ones that will lose their minds when the vtuber shows a new model, right? I think it was alana that said something like that.
>>115884710For what people have been saying yeah, his voice changer broke and spent around half a stream with his regular voice apparently. I can't verify it but even without that its blatantly obvious its a dude with a voice changer.
>>115884740>lose izzat because you got catfished>gain izzat because you stan your queen (king) against vindictive whores and drama mongers I BREAK EVEN SAAR
>>115884787>IzzatThis shit is completely incomprehensible to my white man brain
>>115884740>>115884759So something that was essentially a open secret is now a problem because strawb and her bitchboy wanted to stir shit
>>115884813Think of it as some Bushido code of honor thing, but instead of being genuinely honorable, you be a selfish prick.
>>115884813Izzat is literally just "image"As in "do people think I'm a winner" in the American Psycho senseDoes this help you understand your enemies better?
>>115884838Yeah, open-secret to some, but you're going to find this crazy, vtubers even to each other behind the scenes don't tell each other everything. They get blindsided worse than the fans sometimes.Some of these people promoted him with false incentives, that's where the problem lies.
>>115884883>>115884883>>115884883
>>115884855It's that retarded concept of "face" the chinese and to some decree japs have where even if you ARE telling the truth about what someone is doing, you're in the wrong because you're hurting their "face". Izzat is the thirdie edition
>>115884843>>115884855I mean I get the basic concept, but I suppose being aware of second and third order effects of actions means that I can't really create a frame of mind for people who wander through life just living in a ME ME ME manner like this. Like put your fucking trash in the trash can, it makes it easier for literally everyone including you.
>>115884927This thread is dying so it'll have to be quick, but you need to remember that Indian culture still uses a Caste system. More Money > Better Than
>>115884813Think respect or street cred with black people
>>115885179You forgetting the elo aspect of it. To earn izzat you must take it from someone else.
