OP, do you need someone to talk to?
You could have posted in PCG or the other clara catalog shitbake.

>>115842704
That's not Clara. Clara got fired.
This is just some 3view desperate for relevance.

>>115842704
Who? But why talk about now she should have done it on her way out. Now it feels like grifting.

>>115842865
>just some 3 view
>half of pissconnect are 2view
Who is desperate now

>gets kicked out of multiple companies to the point you need to get 6 new identities and no one wants to deal with you anymore
>Yeah everyone else is the problem certainly not me

>>115842865
Nigga you can count the phase members that aren't 3 views or worse on one hand

>yuri leaves
>everyone sides with he corpo because she was obviously being retarded
>saya leaves
>everyone sides with he corpo because she was obviously being retarded
>anya leaves
>everyone sides with he corpo because she was obviously being retarded
>clara leaves
>everyone sides with he corpo because she was obviously being retarded
how does this keeps happening

>>115844416
Phasetroons are bootlickers

>>115844416
Because Phase is full of nepo hires and cliques
The only thing they are good at is sucking up to the teet that feeds them

Who that? Some whore with a hole in her neck?

>>115844302
>>115843277
self-reporting phasejeets kek

>>115842704
>timestamp
>uncontroversial yapping
What exactly were you trying to do here

>>115848109
It's some dumb vagueposting that if true, makes Phase looks like shit, so they're running damage control.

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>>115842704
phasers shit talk each other all the time i doubt that theyre pretending i doubt famous people have 'real' friends for that matter

>>115842704
>Clara was kicked out of 109 vtuber companies

>>115842704
Everything she talked about applies to the bullshit bullying Jelly received, yet she remained. Jelly was strong, Clara was weak, simple as.

>>115842865
>This is just some 3view desperate for relevance
Nigga that describes phase connect

>>115842704
The weak deserve to be bullied

>>115844416
Everyone except Clara committed a clear fault that made it so even people who didnt like Phase understood why they had to terminate the contracts. Clara was seen as a víctim of incompetent management AND chud mob shit that people probably hate Phase for since many blame Pippa for bringing it into Vtubing (half truth and it was probably inevitable). It doesnt help that around the time of the Kirk shooting public opinion was shifting agaisnt the right.

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>>115849599
>Kirsche was kicked out of 109 cons

>>115852854
Clara got kicked out for being retarded. Kirsche got kicked out because of her opinions. There's a difference here that lefties will never admit to.

>>115852830
I still don't understand why Phase didn't just put her in 2 gens like Fubuki and close ranks like Hololive did with China. It was all so stupid and preventable

>ccv not doing to well
>better start drama
Could she be more pathetic? Same for OP- this tranny really linked the vruberdrama subreddit for his cope post about his favorite failed vtuber. Go back.

>>115852899
What if your opinions are ultra retarded and PR poison? I once saw someone doing a tiktok dance to a trollsong singing the praises of Israel.

If she hates bullies then why is she associating with 2 transsexual pedophiles

>>115852945
I assume it was a convo of Sakana not adressing things quickly enough and Clara's autism making her absolutely horrible at communicating. Also supposedly the management at JP were bad hires but thats just hearsay from what I know.

>>115853543
*A combo

Clara dindu nuffin. It was everyone else who was wrong.

>>115842704
>it's real
Pippa always vouching for all the worst people. Poor judge of character.

>>115853932
Risky gigaquote

>>115853932
Unironically

>>115853932
Truth

>>115852899
Clara got continually harassed and doxed because of her private opinions until she left.
Kirsche got disinvited for politicizing everything and bringing the worst sort of people with her.
But rightoids love to play the victim, while being the aggressor. When they start attacking Youmacon like they did with Offkai, it will only confirm it.

>>115842704
>Green women
Every single time.

>>115852899
NTA but the hog applied for the con knowing it would happen. Youmacaon tried kicking Pippa out when phase was there last for less, something Kirsche KNEW because she tried bringing it up with her offkai shitshow. She needed fresh drama.

>>115842704
Oh no phasecelbros are we the bad guys like usual?

>>115859127
Don't pretend the con isn't at fault for advertising her appearance and then cancelling her a few days before the con when it's too late to get refunds

>>115859948
Based. Chuds deserve nothing.

>>115859948
Feel free to point out where I said that, I'll wait.

>>115853932
Yes. Everyone else who shit on her anyway (including Jelly).

>>115842704
>www.reddit.com/r/VtuberDrama

>>115853932
i mean she did trash talk jelly from her private account (though her wording suggests there was some sort of confrontation bts) but aside from that yeah I don't think she did anything particularly wrong, yes she said some unhinged insensitive stuff (on a private rm account) but if that's where we draw the line then many of her coworkers could be judged on the same way

>>115862235
>(though her wording suggests there was some sort of confrontation bts)
her wording was a week after an unrelated tweet.
She did not "trash talk jelly."
Unfortunately yet another case of phasefags twisting things to fit their narratives.

>>115842704
Who do the bullying in Boyfriend Connect?
Lumi? She seem like the most Stacy/mean girl there.

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>>115842704
kek it's this schizo, the beryl poster

>>115864987
shhh he's shifting the overton window

>>115852830
>chud mob shit
This is a 'chud hobby'. All of you weird fat chinese women that came in with vox the queer are interloping because no one ever taught you that the world doesn't revolve around your opinions and you're not special. Pretty much the same problem clara has, and many/most women have which is that you've never been bitchslapped in your life for running your fucking mouth like those webms where some woman decides to fuck with her boyfriend and he just has enough of it and knocks her the fuck out.

>>115842704
Did that happen before or after she shit talked her colleagues in public?

>>115853527
Because bullying to this person means disagreement and not sucking her clit. Her entire life is getting what she wants until she hits a wall where daddy's money can't get her over, then she cries about being oppressed.

When you get everything you want, when you are spoiled, simply being told "no" and "stop" and "take your meds you crazy bitch" seem like a horrendous injustice.

>>115857868
We are going to be the aggressor because leaving you "alone" means you come into 4chan and shit the place up, because your entire existence relies on people not beating the shit out of you to enforce a degree of normalcy while you try to fuck up this website and the internet because you are a crybully parasite.

Why aren't you claratroons watching your 2view oshi right now

>>115865061
No, I'm pretty sure bullying refers to tracking down and harassing her family.
nice try though

It's super obvious to anyone with functioning social awareness, but most phasefags are profoundly autistic.

>>115852830
>ignoring staff and the other talents for months on end
>leaving the work discord server (equivalent to uninstalling MS Teams or Slack or whatever your irl company uses)
>causing conflict and tension among your coworkers with passive agressive behaviour and false HR reports
Honestly even without any of the political drama Clara should have been terminated and the only reason she wasn't is that it would have been bad for optics

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>>115865061
>sucking this thing's clitoris
Count me in

>>115852854
When they kept referencing her "appearance" I couldn't help but imagine that they were banning her because she's fat.

>>115865296
Proof sometime this year phasesister?

>>115865939
>constantly attack Christianity
lol fundie retard

>>115866224
I agree with her, people are such insecure pussies with changing song lyrics. I dropped Haachama when I noticed her Shape of You cover did this.

>>115865079
Proving the point of being the aggressor while playing the victim.

>>115867476
I think he's full of shit anyway, literally nothing he does on some other website is capable of stopping either of us, or anyone else, from posting here. It's like walking into a library, throwing shit all over the place, and then shouting "That'll teach you not to come to my whorehouse!"
If anything it's more likely to draw more attention to this place and bring more people here.

>>115866224
>the indie pill
didn't take her long at all

>>115852899
>her opinions
Which are also retarded, so there really is no difference at all.

Toyal troomie death

If she feels safe complaining about her experiences, it means she should have been bullied harder.

>>115842704
how do you get bullied online as an adult
bitch is being spiteful for not getting her way

>>115866224
Why give faggots further rights they just hang themselves anyway. Wasting everybody's time.

>>115869527
just walk off the screen, close your eyes haha

>>115870704
You know, that's basically what she did

>>115860126
>Jelly
nta and don't care much about Clara but it still annoys me how the entire incident with Jelly was handled, so much incompetence from someone like five years on the market

Total clara humiliation

>>115844416
Saya left on good terms, don't drag her into this

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>>115842704
>p-p-p-p-p-pls pay attention to me
>Nerissa homocollab yab
It's hilarious how she keeps trying to revive her career with vague drama and there's always something more interesting going on that week

>phasetroons worship the corpo

>>115872729
Phase Connect is the alt-corpo. That's just how things are.

>I dont think you have to forgive
>I think it is good to hold grudges
cant be a healthy mindset for someone in their mid 30s

>>115873068
Her anti's agree with her mindset. She and them were made for eachother.

>>115842865
Start lubing up your ass fish, you're going to need it. Failing to dismantle the clique when you had the chance will have consequences retard.

>>115865079
>We are going to be the aggressor because leaving you "alone" means you come into 4chan and shit the place up
Fucking this. These "people" ruin everything everywhere they go. Every fandom, every hobby, everything and one of the reasons for this has been because right wing chuds have been acting way too nice for way too long. Being nice was never gonna work or just simply laughing at these retards. You have to actively to shame them, harass them and insult them just like they have done to us. It's the only way.

>>115873249
What have right-wing chuds ever contributed to vtubing? You can't even claim Pippa

>>115866224
>ana valens
>a tranny living with a diaper wearing turdie
>who lost his job at vice trying to doxx vtubers because they didn't let him in their group of women
>who now pays a known pedophile to spam 4chan every month
>agrees with clara
who woulda guessed!

>>115873251
I'm surely gonna have different names for the same pic you schizophrenic retard

>>115844416
>Selen gets fired
>Everyone sides with the corpo because she was obviously being retarded

You forgot that one

Brazilian thread.

>>115853932
Many are starting to realize this

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>>115873249
You need to start doing what MLP fandom started doing: edit pride art, fix it just like mentally ill people like to take your things and "fix" them and make edits of them. Also downvote anything pride and nigger related you see when or if possible. That's what i and many other anon have started doing on sites like Derpibooru. You need to show they are not welcomed to our spaces, ignoring them doesn't help, never did and never will. It just makes it look like they are accepted.

>>115866224
gee, wonder why people give her shit
also her hanging around with pedophile troons isnt surprising at all

>>115871092
and we all wish she didn't

>>115866224
>hey maybe you shouldn't tweet out politcal stuff on twitter because the fanbase is gonna spazz out
she should have listened

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>>115875641
>maybe you shouldn't tweet out politcal stuff on twitter
Isn't the entire industry of chudtubing explicitly built on this? Honestly, fuck all of them too, her problems wouldn't even exist if Phase had ever bothered to wrangle the rest of their retards. Look at Kiara's interview. It's not even controversial for Hololive.

I dont understand why Clara decided to buddy up with Pippa and Jelly but not the girls who are like her like Eimi, Hime and Lia who on stream say pro LGBT shit and nobody bats and eye or cares

if she would have just picked a different friend circle, it could have been different.

>>115842704
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kgd1ElGm54&t=2611s
you're a faggot who can't think by himself

>>115875863
That pathological need existed before they even found her, it was nothing but long-ago brainwashed culture war fags looking for an enemy. That's why it's such a mistake to engage or give them attention. It just encourages them.

>>115875922
i think it was probably an age gap she is 5-10 years older than them whereas she is closer in age to lumi/jelly/pippa/airi and knows culture references for them

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>>115875922
Don't know, but for context
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Dq60ViYog
It's not like she didn't have supportive colleagues in Kaleido either, see picrel. So, I can't guess at anything more than that

>>115875922
Lia is a good Christian girl and did not want to associate with a servant of Satan

>>115875566
Yeah, we wish she never left to begin with

>>115876233
>Lia is a good Christian girl
No she isn't.

>>115844416
>Saya Leaves
Someone with a history of joining and leaving corpos. Shes literally done it at least a half a dozen times. Everyone saw this coming.
>Anya leaves
Brain damaged schizo. Unironicly. Who had her debut delayed because she literally had a mental breakdown saying demons were attacking her. Then was in the company for what? Like a month or two? Before leaving.
>Yuri leaves
Man this was so long ago I dont even remember the specifics. I remember it was contract violations but that could be anything.
>Clara leaves
All complaints are her just being upset about herself choosing to leave. She joined a chud company and then got surprised when people pushed back on her dumbass statements. Also attacking coworkers. Not a good look. Still the being weirdly relegated to the JP branch was an odd one.

>>115875922
Lia is the original Starknight, if Clara isn't just making shit up for sympathy points and there was tension between her and Jelly then Lia would not be on her side

>>115877752
>chud company
There's a big difference between fun internet edgy (which she is) and the fucking weird pseudo-religious energy of maga crusader rightoids.

>>115878601
If I had to make a retarded guess on what happened, despite Clara and Lia sharing plenty of interests, Lia is way more edgy (Toge tweeted today that she's scared of saying kys because of it's meaning, while Lia made a career out of suicide and 9/11 jokes). To be diplomatic about it, I'd say that Lia doesn't care about the meaning of what she says enough, while Clara is just way too much of an ENFP for many to deal with, even if nearly everything that she believes is mainstream somewhere. I didn't realize how eager she was to still debate/mention what happened: it takes a lot of balls (Mari was totally right about her cock size), but probably the right thing to block so many beforehand if she was going to be so eager to debate the rest. Hope she doesn't try to grift too hard off it though, never really ends well for anyone.

>>115880028
This shit's so bad for kayfabe though. All the dramafagging and fighting over irl politics is just poison to what the core of vtubing was originally supposed to be.

uh oh

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>>115880455
You get dramafag poltourists in her replies demanding an answer to some unrelated topic, and they just get proven as illiterate. Phew.

>>115876195
Poor dog doesn't understand the foreigner whore must be avoided.

>>115842704
Baused

>>115877752
This is like watching Holodrones cope and immediately turn on every single one of their graduated members

>>115890331
Nah, they don't usually harass the people that leave. That's more a niji thing.

>>115890414
More of a phase thing apparently considering this entire thread.

>>115842704
Why are the soys at reddit calling the person she was interacting with an "abuser"? She just kept on forcing herself to communicate with them and they wanted nothing to with her which just escalates the issue. That's just being an annoying prick.

>>115890505
Horseshoe theory, I'm afraid.
Phase is really just the western Niji.

>>115890414
No they harass and stalk them before they leave.

>>115891045
No, phase tends to harass and stalk them.
Every single time you actually check the account, it's either a burner or retweets pippa/jelly

>>115886738
>I haven't wished death on someone since I was 9 and they literally died
Absolutely wild lore drop

>>115890594
>they wanted nothing to with her
Thats weird because when I find myself in that situation I just don't reply to the person.

>>115842704
This hot woman has all you chuds mind broken. Its fucking hilarious how much of a fucking pussy you all chuds are. You faggots are worst than the trannies.

>>115843277
The only two views are the jp talents, y'know, Clara's old genmates. I'll wait for you to name an EN talent that has any trouble getting over 300 viewers every stream.

>>115891268
eventually you just have to tell them off if they dont get the hint and wont leave you alone even if you dont reply

>>115866224
I thought Phil got chased off the internet

I hope togepi keeps throwing down with every twitter troll and being vindictive and preachy in her streams. I am excited to see her numbers go down even more.

>>115875522
I hate Ana but calling trans people pedos for no reason only makes neutral people think you're crazy. Also it's a guarantee that someone will clap back with Trump

>>115891692
>I am excited to see her numbers go down even more.
Let me know when that happens, because it hasn't so far.

>>115865024
I'm a white male twink who almost got stabbed today

>>115892097
>almost got stabbed today
wtf anon

>>115892097
tried not being gay?

>>115892117
You know the funniest part? I was actually trying to help out the crazy guy then he flipped out because the bus was already in movement and he almost fell down like an idiot, and then for no reason blamed me for him doing that then threatened to fucking kill me right there in broad daylight. It was surreal.

>>115892283
Oh yeah I forgot to add, he almost fell down because he tried to board the bus entrance when it already got above 7 Km/h so he was obviously not getting in.

>>115892283
>>115892296
Crazy people are crazy. Careful out there

>>115892371
She's right that it's literally impossible to tell the difference between a "male" and "female" skeleton because there is no such thing as "gender" in skeletons. If you look at a human skeleton all you will be able to tell is that it is a human skeleton.

>>115893035
not true my skeleton has a big penis

>>115893190
That must be hard to deal with

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>>115893035
Not true

>>115893629
NTA but the scare quotes are there for a reason. Sex is biological, gender is a mental concept. Beyond that, you get in the realm of people who love wasting too much time on stupid bullshit.

>>115893035
Lol. Go easy on the troon juice there.

>>115893672
That is why I no longer use gender as a word to describe men or women. That term has been destroyed by feminists-misandrists and no longer has any actual meaning.

>>115893035
what would you call this difference then >>115893629
honestly curious, if you're not just shitposting

>>115886738
>>115892371
haven't been following this drama much. Is she Clara or not? Because the only reason she's 3views and quickly amassed that amount of follows on Xitter is because people think she's Clara.

>>115891305
She loves me

>>115895176
Its no secret and she is not hidding it either

>>115844416
Knowing full well what was going to happen, people were shitting on Dizzy for hiring Saya as soon her indedity was revealed.

>>115891544
>I'll wait for you to name an EN talent that has any trouble getting over 300 viewers every stream
Eimi

>>115844416
>Memory leaves
>Gets memoryholed because the company was very obviously at fault but that doesn't fit the narrative

>>115873249
Inclusivity and empathy and other such Trojan horses were always weapons of conquest wielded by malicious groups to subvert spaces and then gain power over them. Western nations and people’s are too weak and propagandized to resist. We basically got cry bullied into paying for our own destruction.
It’s not just progressive subversion though, like why do we have to do everything Israel says? Well if we don’t it’s antisemitism. More cry bullying.

If you can’t gate keep your space at all (hobby, community, nation) then you will lose your space.

>>115896499
Why do you think chuds invented vtubing? It's never been the case. Meanwhile, Clara was scouted by the fucking CEO himself. That's not an invasion.

>>115896573
Please quote exactly where I said or even so much as implied any of that that. What I said does apply to vtubing in a general sense, because all western media has been subverted using progressive npc foot soldiers of global capital. Revolutionaries who are just puppets. And you already know there’s immense capital pressure on vtubers to at least mostly conform to global liberal standards right? That’s why people meme about phase not getting sponsors.

But thats not saying “chuds invented vtubing”. It just means a space that isn’t gatekept will be invaded.

>>115896674
Anon, you just vomited a bunch of stale talking points that don't even make sense in the context you're using them. You've been conditioned by repetition to the point you might as well be a bot.

>>115896674
>That’s why people meme about phase not getting sponsors.
You can be a conservative (even an outspoken one) without being a chud asshole about it. Phase has trouble with sponsors because way too many of their fans think its based to draw them in Nazi paraphernalia.

>>115844416
As the old saying goes "If people are assholes everywhere you go, then maybe you're the asshole ".

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>>115877752
1. No, the company is not "chud". Barely a 3rd of the fanbase are the "chuds".
2. She did not say anything "dumbass". The chuds only said she did
3. She never attacked any co-workers. That is an unsubstantiated chud's line only.

Stop being a stupid chud.

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>>115906852

When the minority rightwing phasers (fanbase) found out how leftwing Himemiya Rie was, they got all pissy and started to harass her. Oh and before that there was "Liatnam". What was that all about?
I guess the differences between these exacerbate this situation. Lia and Rie stayed on and toughed it out, Rie proved to be generally "slutty" enough for their tastes, and of course the Isntrael killing of Manchurian candidate Kirk set off chud programming and they went and got Assman Gold involved, forever linking the Jelly bullshit to her graduation with zero evidence. Much like the Tylor Robinson case.
Hopefully it dies down, but we have to suffer these extra stupid people raised on xwitter psyops programming (tranny or chud)

From what toge has discussed at length now, the chud melties and even the doxxing had no influence on her decision to quit Phase. Rather, someone was stalking her, being mean, and refused to distance themselves from Clara. Clara was apparently in a position where she couldn't do much to keep said person away. She escalated twice to management, once she was told that something would be done about it. The second time, she got gaslight into thinking she was the problem for raising the issue and that she was the instigator. This second interaction with management led her to quit the company.

Based on a variety of rrats from all places including new information (which might or might not be true), here's my headcanon timeline of events:
>Clara debuts as blue woman
>Jelly throws melty because she's blue too
>Clara tries to steer towards being yellow instead
>fast forward several controversial discussions, including people throwing in with 1930s Nazi Germany
>Jelly still seething at Clara's initial success and talent, and hates her for being outspoken about trans and homos, which she has been culturally conditioned to loathe
>Jelly calls her a slur or some shit and only she cares, distances herself from the rest of the talents who ignored it
>Clara complains to Sakana
>Sakana says that's just how Jelly is and that he'll take care of it
>The Kirkening happens
>Jelly ramps up bullying
>Clara complains to Sakana, but Sakana has the ear of Dizzy, who knows about the TVA rrats/images and blames her for antagonizing Jelly, so Sakana passes it on
>Clara decides that if they won't do anything, there's no point in associating and quits right after, irrespective of the Minecraft shit

>>115898820
She never said it was Jelly. She's been processing her negative experiences rather than deliberately picking a fight from what I've seen. I think the danger is that she overcorrects. There's a lot of value in being able to tank and overcome anti bullshit, but nobody sane wants to be fighting 24/7. She needs to be able to collab with other indie chuubas, getting stuck in an endless cycle of twitter warfare makes you radioactive. Both antis and some people who might look supportive from the outside will obviously try and push her towards that outcome.

>>115898820
your headcanon has a lot of headcanon. I've watched most of what she said and I think it was mostly about management not supporting projects esp with regards to collabs with other members, plus micromanaging how she handles her community. The interpersonal stuff was real but I don't think it was the sole contributor, and uh I don't think your timeline happened as is.
>>115898952
Yeah, I think officially putting some of the dumb rrats to rest is good, but she should pivot back to ignoring all that crap sooner rather than later.

>>115898952
I agree desu
That's what would be best for her. I feel like she's getting stuff off her chest for now.

That said, I don't think she's that interested in expanding her network. She said she keeps people at arms length because self-defense.

>>115896743
That’s literally what you just did, then projected it onto me. I expressed my opinion and shared my thought process. You replied “thats all stale talking points, you sound like a bot”.
So you discounted everything I said, without actually saying anything yourself. If you disagree you could share your thoughts and ideas.
>>115896801
Conservative content creators (vtuber & otherwise) have had radically less sponsorship opportunities for many years, and it’s only gotten slightly better recently, so you’re just lying.

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>>115898820
>Jelly throws melty because she's blue too
I highly doubt this. You can have multiple blues in a company. It might "clash" if you have two of the same color in a single gen, so I see no melties here. Clara wanted yellow for lightning.
>and hates her for being outspoken about
Jelly is a closeted self-hating bisexual, who is gradually coming to terms with it (behind the scenes, because loud baby chuds in chat would explode) If anything, she was probably a little jealous of her being able to be open. So;
>which she has been culturally conditioned to loathe
Truth. I agree.
>Jelly ramps up bullying (After Kirkening)
I doubt it. When this event happened Clara was with her granny in the EU, either mulling over quitting, or telling management she wanted out.

I don't see any connection for her leaving with Jelly. Jelly is a loner and isolated besides, all this on top of their seeming political differences would keep a silent wedge between them. The only connection is when the chudkights went to cry at Assman Gold.
It's all a shame. They both have a lot in common and could be made good friends and make nice music together.

>>115899084
>What I said does apply to vtubing in a general sense, because all western media
Well here's your first fuck up, and no, it doesn't. Vtubing didn't grow out of western media. The attempted growth of chud culture warrior jihadis to define and police this hobby as theirs is parasitical. You are exactly the kind of invasive species you think you're protesting against.
>inb4 but whatabout leftoids
They're the same thing. But you don't understand why you're just as bad, because you're direction-brained simpleton who only sees the world in a very shallow binary. Vtubing came out of a mix of Japanese subcultures. It was refreshingly detached from the bulldozer of online culture war politics that has wrecked the entirety of the EN internet. That's also why it was such a beloved refuge during Covid.
Look man. Maybe there's still some semblance of a functional human in there. So I'm sorry if you feel attacked. But you are attacking other people, and in a very ugly way, so you aren't getting a pass. If you ever want to be taken seriously, I'd urge you to reconsider some of your assumptions.

>>115899265
Toge mentioned she saw whoever harassed her being a piece of shit in the past (she said she didn't know if it was real or not). I'm guessing that stuff will eventually come out and we'll know the truth then.

This is probably what she was referring to when she said the truth would come out during her graduation. No google dockey sadly.

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>>115899265
About that.
>picrel
EN vtubing was a lot more chill until polfags of all kinds got their hooks into it.

Can't she go back to her previous timeslot, i ain't watching at 5am.
please...

>>115899616
>lumi
NTA. Wasn't she like one of the biggest chud coded vtubers baco in early phase.

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>>115899944 >>115900309

>>115899265
Someone who talks about 1930s Nazi Germany as being a good thing and is probably in Proctor's DMs?
It would make double the amount of sense if Jelly is actually in touch with some of the more prolific TVA users from how much they glorify her tbdesu and how much they obsess over Clara if they're getting their marching order from her, stalking her and constantly trying to turn their 500 page schizo doxx thread into a Jelly thread out of her inferiority complex...

Sorry, I went schizo there for a sec. I'm just saying it would make sense.

>>115899817
Wasn't Pippa? She doesn't even qualify these days.

>>115899844
>TVA thread brings up Jelly because they know Jelly reads it and knows she would get jealous if she isn't mentioned in adoration
It's too good to be true

>>115899884
That doesn't discredit my point. Additionally, it wasn't /pol/fags who crashed out hard over hogworts legacy. Twitterfags and bskybabies were just as bad, if not worse, than the chuds/ /pol/fags of now.

>>115899817
No. She plays up "evil" and has too cold as rocks scientific parents. This may be an affliction many "chuds" have too, but it doesn't make her one.
>>115899884
Pippa is a libertarian. Laughing at the mention of Hitler as a joke, or not liking flaming retard tranny behavior also does not make one a chud.

>>115899844
>it would make sense.
What that all looks like to me is that some chudknights are the schizos behind all the troubles. (well the schizo trannies too. All of xwitter is nuts)

>>115892371
Remember when lefties were saying that there were no left-wing grifters? Lmao

>>115842704
I'm not really surprised Phase has a culture like this behind the scenes.

>>115900393
If anything, it's the opposite of grifting.

>>115896376
>Averaging 500
Try again fagaloon

test

>>115844416
A lot of women are retarded.

>>115898820
She did not allude to or at any point say that the person was stalking her. This is just taking shit out of context just for the sake of it like a schizo.

>>115899544
Maybe It was like an editor or mixer they usually work with, who knows

>>115899616
Gosh. Im sorry but Jelly's early model was so ugly.

>>115897762
People forget that Rie wasn't disliked just for her politics, she was unironically a bitch before she took her meds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UomutB2qYY

>>115906389
It looks like she nuked most of her old streams. Not all though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6QaC1xLZ0U&t=5276s

>>115891231
Togepega is a Shinigami who has to power to kill all her antis, but chooses not to out of her infinite good will that her antis continue to waste.
Now that's a good lore drop.

>>115892371
>no bigotry
Jellykirk will remember

>>115891692
last I checked being argumentative and annoying made your numbers go up, not down

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>>115909077
>No bigotry
>Names two bigots

>>115844416
>Memory leaves
>Everyone says yeah that's valid but it's a shame, I'll miss her
Strange, you left that one out for some reason, almost as if it was inconvenient for your narrative

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>>115916182 >>115916377 >>115928662

TVA not sending their best
>context junko furuta

The fact that people like Lia, Airi, Erina and Hime supported Jelly over Clara makes it pretty clear Clara must have been a total piece of shit

>>115911143
The only person it seems to make mad is you

>>115911689
Not the anon you were responding to but you basically just said "NO YOU!!!" in a lot more words. Frankly if that's the best counterargument you can come up with it's no surprise your side is losing.

>>115911765
And yet I am smiling.
>>115911872
>willfully missing my point
You are a prime example of what that anon is talking about. Or maybe you really CANT comprehend something that simple. If that is the case, I apologize for punching down.

>>115912272
>and yet I am smiling
You could've used the always-reliable "kys" but you preferred to go with the zesty response for some reason

Clara fired lmao

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>>115913732
LAME-O
RETARD

>>115842704
ALL OUT WAR LMAO

>>115910113
the fact that she has to keep on repeating that she's a good person is an obvious tell that she's a piece of shit that's hiding something

>>115842704
>is mean and gets away with shit all the time
Must be Jelly
>said they'd help but does nothing
Must be Sakana

>>115842704
Love it when Phasejeets always claim Hololive has all sorts of stuff like bullying culture and were desperately waiting for someone to go all Biscuits Braxby on their experience in Hololive but so far almost all of the graduated talents except the EN homos have said positive things about their time there. Now we have an ex-Phase talent going scorched-earth. I wonder who could have saw this coming? Certainly not BVTM, AnimeTrends, and the rest of the Dramatubers /vt/ sucks off of!

>>115915700
>does nothing
Yeah that does track with how I've consistently heard Sakana described.

>>115849599
The funny thing is Clara actually didn't do nuffin' for real and all the hate for her is around opinons that 99% of other vtuber women hold but she said on a private account that people dug up that isn't affiliated with her as a vtuber whatsoever. Like even Jelly doesn't want kids and is pro-abortion but she gets a pass because she hates le colored people.

>>115865024
You are Grxit. Lose weight you fat fuck.

>>115872729
Only Cover does le bad things.
Gunru- err I mean the fish is the only good guy. Talent First!

>>115916093
A big reason Phase has lasted as long as it has is because all those dramatubers ardently refuse to cover anything bad that ever happens to them. They receive an insane amount of protection that allows them to survive things that would have normally taken them down a long time ago.

>>115886738
Maybe blocking chuds is actually a good idea at this point. Fatigue is real. Stop giving them attention.

>>115865079
>>115873249
>>115896499
Lose weight unironically Grxit

>>115916130
She needs to learn to stop engaging these retards and just filter. Giving your energy to awful people is a mistake, it's better to build up your community and scrapping on twitter doesn't do that.

>>115910060
The only thing Toge shouldn't be doing is engaging with these people. Why even bother? She's probably been on the Internet for 2+ decades, has she still not heard of "Don't Feed The Trolls?"

>>115859127
I think Fat Fox herself even said that she declined when asked to come previous years, wonder why she decided to go now.

>>115916240
She's what Laura Loomer is to VTubers, obsessed with being the center of attention, even if it means almost wholly negative outside MIGA circles.

>>115916130
Why would she ever do that? She will continue to throw down with every single hater on Twitter. She will continue to preach to her declining viewer base every stream. This is her "content" now. Might as well watch some Hasan orbiter on Twitch

By the way, imagine if Toge never blocked anyone, actually ignored the chuds, and things went as professional as possible.
Worked for an anime convention in Detroit because business just goes on as usual.
Toge is digging her own grave by giving these people attention, directly or not

>>115916337
Blocking is a good thing, every vtuber has to do this, but you can't get thrown off balance if a few fish slip through your net. It defeats the whole purpose.

>>115910060
The Junko incident is one of those incidents that you just don't joke about. BAKA my head.

>>115916368
Given how vitriolic both the Phase Connect fanbase as well as the general right wing culture warrior community actually are I don't see a problem with her blockchaining them all. If Hasan were harassing a VTuber for having the wrong views I'd support blockchaining him and his deranged fans too.

>>115916182
There and less and less of them in her replies every time she posts, I wonder if she's intentionally trying to bait them into speaking up so she can block them.

>>115916377
>chuds celebrating the gang rape, confinement, torture, and murder of a 17-year old high school student
>chuds crying over some polfaggot fundie propagandist larping as le civilized discourse youtube debatelord
They're an interesting bunch, aren't they

>>115910113
To be fair Clara was less involved with the girls than Jelly.

>>115842704
I'm still listening but it's pretty clear she's referring to Lumi a few times here right? That was her biggest connection going into Phase and they clearly had a falling out even before the big yab.

>>115916757
It's pretty obvious that they were just calling out double standards, to anyone who isn't being dishonest
When Charlie Kirk was killed, lefties (lying) defended making jokes about it by claiming that it was "just dark humour, bro. I thought you guys liked comedy". So people on the right just took this to the logical conclusion
"If it's just dark humour, then naturally anyone can be a target". So they went after the extremely edgy Furuta Junko jokes in much the same way people 10-15 years ago used to make dead baby jokes, with the logic being that if it was just "dark humour", lefties would join in or at least tolerate it. Instead, they began sperging out, much like you're currently doing, and moralfagging about it
The end result being that as usual, lefties can't help but lie and use words to get what they want. By sperging out about edgy jokes, they essentially just admitted that they were only make jokes celebrating Charlie Kirk being killed because they disagreed with him, and by extension, would celebrate about 30-40% of the US population being murdered simply for disagreeing with them. That's how you'd interpret it if you weren't both dishonest and stupid, but that's quite a tall order for leftists so I don't actually expect any reflections from you

>>115900610
Is it? What does this shit have to do with Vtubing? She's just milking the culture war to draw in a fanbase to exploit for money. I don't know how you'd call that anything other than grifting
Just because you agree with what she says, doesn't mean that it isnt' a flavour of grift

>>115918329
SomethingAwful was joking about 9/11 like 20 years ago. Chuds didn't adopt being edgelord faggots just last year because they were heartbroken and shocked out of their dindunuffin ways. Good try though

>>115842704
Japanese salaryman cum dumpster.
Daddy issues whore.

>>115918445
>SomethingAwful was joking about 9/11 like 20 years ago. Chuds didn't adopt being edgelord faggots just last year because they were heartbroken and shocked out of their dindunuffin ways.
You're trying to make a point but you aren't actually saying anything here, at all
It's trying to extract a "moral character" from people based on the jokes they make which is the current providence of leftists that pissed people off. Had they just honestly said "yeah we hate him, that's why we're celebrating", you likely wouldn't see the Furuta Junko jokes. Of course being dishonest is all that you really can do
>9/11 jokes
Even with those, I've noticed personally that a lot of young leftists makes jokes that are far closer to "these people deserved to die due to America's foreign policies in the Middle East" which simply wasn't part of the view of 9/11 jokes around the time that it first came out.
But I mean the fact that you're admitting that "chuds" are just acting like edgelords rather than "being heckin bad people" seems to imply that even you understand the distinction here

Jelly, stop making these threads, move on.
You are too poor to keep hiring retards to post about Clara. You need to save your money so you can escape awaland.

>>115918489
jelly doesnt care about clara's politics, she is just jealous of her.
jelly is poor, brown, and stuck in SEA
clara is rich, white, and able to live wherever she wants
that is all this drama ever was

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>>115918329
Fucking this. It also doesn't help that lefties keep bringing up Junko to shit on Japan at every chance they get and try to blame her death on anime and manga or calling Japan the most disgusting country ever despite similar cases happening weekly in tons of other countries. They also always leave out the fact the murderers were literally fucking communists.

If your only arguments against Japan are old war crimes, muh shutter sounds, muh trains for men and women and one girl's death, then i think at that point you should just kill yourself.

You could shit on their awful work culture, their worship of corporations or their huge hate towards piracy but no, it's always the shit happened years ago and the shit that we could actually use in western countries too like shutter sounds with how many people there are keep taking pics of other people but we live in a world full of retards, so that's not gonna happen.

Junko is gonna get similar treatment because you niggers can't let her rest in peace, just like George Floyd, Charlie Kirk and Anne Clank. This is what you deserve. Don't blame us, blame yourself.

>>115918596
Go back to pol faggot

>>115918626
This was definitely a post that was worth making. I'm sure you employed all of your braincells with this masterpiece

>>115918476
Anon, are you fucking stupid, we're on the same goddamned website. This is all from an /a/ thread from 2008.
>16872345
>This. It's an actual thing that happened to a poor girl. For fucks sake you newfags.
>I'm pretty sure things like this happen to many girls all over the world.
>...makes me hard even thinking about it ^_^
Of course I understand the distinction. It's how I can easily understand that you're a lying faggot attempting to rewrite history that can be definitively disproved with about 5 minutes of reading. Junko Furuta jokes are not some kind of defensive reaction to leftism.

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>>115918626
meow

>>115918670
>Junko Furuta jokes are not some kind of defensive reaction to leftism.
On social media, they were most definitely were, which is what I was referencing. Exactly how old do you think the average person in this thread is or on social media is? 2008 is 18 years ago, the majority of people whining about this now simply were not old enough to have been posting on /a/ back then and that is absolutely not what they're referring to.
This thread is just Twitter: it's talking about Twitter, not /a/ from two decades ago

>>115918656
>>115918705
See:
>>115918626
Idk who that is, nor do i care

What does any of this have to do with Clara?

>>115918720
If you mean to say there's a crueler edge to social media because of politics that didn't exist in the past, that's absolutely true. But it's not just left or right. It's corroding everything it touches.

>>115918731
That's just you being stupid

>>115918744
Because her post-Phase career is just going to be a surrogate for on-going culture wars instead of a "normal" Vtuber career
The only reason people are following her or supporting her is that they either want her to shit on Phase, or they're supporting her for "having the right politics", something she keeps discussing on her Vtubing account. That's pretty much it
That's just the type of fanbase she wants to cultivate so that's why the thread is going to be like this

lol

>>115918581
Clara should pay Jelly for colonizing her nation, making it a shithole

>>115842704
She should just get over it

Total phasecuck death

>>115869048
>her horrible opinions
such as
>access to the united states is not a human right
>fetishist use trans shit as a shield
>flooding western nations with third world savages that practice child marriage is bad actually
>ICE should be allowed to deport non-citizens
wow the horror!

>>115910060
average phaselatinxoid behavior

C.H.U.D. was the title of a movie appropriated by the Chap Trap House podcast to be a politically correct slur for a vaguely defined subsection of right-wingers, but it seems to be thrown around freely now without any real thought and whenever I ask people to define the word, I never get an answer. It seems to be a label for anyone remotely right-leaning, from milquetoast, cuckservative, Zionist, "let's hold hands and sing kumbaya" egalitarian Charlie Kirk types to the far-right. In short, anybody who is right of Mao. It's a bit frustrating to be honest, but I guess language will deteriorate regardless of what I think.

>>115931343
>"let's hold hands and sing kumbaya" egalitarian Charlie Kirk types
Holy astroturfing

>>115931413
I'm not sure you're using that term right but if you'd like to explain it, I'll hear you out for a bit.

>>115931463
Dont car

>>115931624
?

>>115842704
Baused

>>115935802
>obvious bump by op
Kys

>>115873600
You mean besides the majority of the funding since its inception because people on the left are workshy foodstampers who sell their EBT for estrogen and then complain that they can't eat?

>>115900901
>Averaging 500
lmao even. delusional

>>115852899
>Kirsche isn't retarded.

So bold of a statement.

>>115936618
Lol
They didn't even show up to Phasecon

>>115937213
She's definitely retarded, but her retardation is cheeky and fun. Clara's retardation is cruel and tragic.

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>>115937267
You may have facts on your side, but this says otherwise.

>Culture warriors still forcing this failed vtuber on veetee

>>115891544
Iori, Eimi, Muyu, Remy, Malice.

>>115923150
Shitty joke aside, Malaysia never had significant white colonization at least not to the degree that their gov't was taken over and made a colony of a European power (although it almost happened post WWII). If any thing it has had mass immigration by Chinese nationals like Jelly's family that has caused conflict with the Malay majority.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysian_Chinese

>>115918797
I like her because she sings good and seems to have a nice personality. There is a feeling of feeling bad for the bad experiences she had to go through and wanting to support her because of that too but its more of a secondary thing.

>>115918596
>the murderers were literally fucking communists.
Ok I'm biting, mind elaborating? I can't imagine some low level yakuza kids having ties to communism.
>>115918581
>stuck in SEA
I mean it wouldn't be easy but I'm sure the Jelly identity could help her to get settled somewhere else if she had her mind on it. But as someone who also lives in a shithole the idea of leaving your whole family and life as you knew it behind can be... intimidating, to some people.

>>115937331
kek
i appreciated your dad joke

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>>115937586
Seems like Jelly's family should go back

She's streaming now please watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtJ3jPq6hb0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtJ3jPq6hb0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtJ3jPq6hb0

>>115937284
This is the
>It's okay when Nintendo does it!
of vtubers

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>>115940250
Is the succubus outfit built into her model or is it just some sort of attachment because holy moly.

>>115940250
Why hasn't she wished death upon me yet?
What are the chuds so upset about?

>>115940250
This is the streamer which results in the nonstop catalog shitbakes?
Jesus you fucks need help

>>115941087
Your brain on /pol/.

>>115937776
Dunno about commie, but the perpa were zainichi, aka ethnic coreans in Japan who make up the yakuza rank and file psychotics. wtf is wrong with Koreans, seriously?