Nothing and no one is beyond reworking. Not even lead devs.https://www.youtube.com/@ThomasLands - Videos of nearly finished scrapped TNO builds.https://files.catbox.moe/6kc2dc.png - German space plans.https://files.catbox.moe/4p0tpa.pdf - Goering design doc.https://files.catbox.moe/pwkheh.png - Updated German rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/80z6tb.png - Bormann TNO2 flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/9ja39g.png - Himmler starting tree, releasing never.https://files.catbox.moe/cdag1w.pdf - Vote Pig, the US rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/3bwv2e.pdf - Japan rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/chzsvc.pdf - Japan Funada Design Doc.https://files.catbox.moe/u49rh5.png - 26 Japan flowchart?https://files.catbox.moe/qsd9cg.png - Gorky gets nuked now.https://files.catbox.moe/beh76f.pdf - France proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/7vqarx.png - France flowchart. Resistance is dead.https://files.catbox.moe/xlhrjj.pdf - Sweden rework proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/u6ehum.jpg - Sweden flowchart. Updated 26.https://files.catbox.moe/7nxnlv.png - Finland re-re-rework.https://files.catbox.moe/z7t903.png - Norway rework.https://files.catbox.moe/cub16l.jpg - Denmark rework.https://files.catbox.moe/egf8m0.pdf - Charlemagne Insurrection proposal. Cut.https://files.catbox.moe/2k4kcw.png - Bichelonne flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/l70qhw.pdf - Burgundian Eulogy: A dev is made to justify why his own proposal got cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zff5y4.pdf - Serov facelift/partial Komi rework doc.https://files.catbox.moe/ymgaur.pdf - Amur rework doc. Three years in dev hell.https://files.catbox.moe/vdpi8k.pdf - Old Red Italy proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/nl2c1d.png - Moscowien rework #14.https://files.catbox.moe/n6diob.png - Ukraine rework/expansion.
Dev on dev violence.https://files.catbox.moe/dn6eha.png - UK re-rework chart.https://files.catbox.moe/xkpm9x.png - US rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/a03s7a.png - US 68 conventions.https://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf - Nixon characterization doc.https://files.catbox.moe/9p7n8b.png - Nixon tree.https://files.catbox.moe/zvb7en.png - Hall trap tree.https://files.catbox.moe/xj8yym.png - RFK tree.https://files.catbox.moe/mm5f00.png - Connally tree. Full of seething.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - Hawaii crisis.https://files.catbox.moe/go9tnq.png - Reuther tree.https://files.catbox.moe/sl8afo.jpeg - Wallace tree.https://files.catbox.moe/r8c6i3.jpg - Goldwater tree.https://files.catbox.moe/ez4g4c.png - Schlafly path.https://files.catbox.moe/no1w90.png - Schlafly update.https://files.catbox.moe/joltgi.png - Yorty tree.https://files.catbox.moe/uvnwek.png - Ford.https://files.catbox.moe/cc2mf7.png - Rockefeller.https://files.catbox.moe/sps1he.png - Burton.https://files.catbox.moe/m1i3hv.jpg - VP 2024 partial rework.https://files.catbox.moe/9i9y7d.png - VP 2025 events.https://files.catbox.moe/h1e8ew.png - Humphrey in the US rework.https://files.catbox.moe/fwgmje.jpg - Reagan tree, updated 26.https://files.catbox.moe/8edmqf.png - Reagan Mechanic.https://files.catbox.moe/egyad1.pdf - McGovern campaign document.https://files.catbox.moe/jbimjj.png - Old jfk flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/r7l32u.png - Stevenson focus tree.https://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf - New Granada walltext.https://files.catbox.moe/r86sw7.pdf - Colombian soccer mechanics (200p).https://files.catbox.moe/nlrpjl.pdf - West Indies lore documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf - GGR Constitution.https://files.catbox.moe/ptvdb1.pdf - Old Indonesia proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/dyqxez.png - Cuba flowchart.
Thankfully both sides can lose.https://files.catbox.moe/9zek9b.jpg - Pre-purge Italy rework, now cut.https://files.catbox.moe/zls2jx.png - NuItaly flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/e2dc5r.pdf - Fash Italy design doc (outdated)https://files.catbox.moe/omka3d.png - Spain stuffhttps://files.catbox.moe/4d69lc.png - Portugal stuffhttps://files.catbox.moe/twfq0l.jpg - Argentina rework.https://files.catbox.moe/qdwxfw.jpg - Turkey tree leak #1https://files.catbox.moe/0kckpi.jpg - #2https://files.catbox.moe/gj8y34.png - Manchuria flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/iwmxg6.pdf - Manchuria doc #1.https://files.catbox.moe/cgaqrz.pdf - Manchuria doc #2.https://files.catbox.moe/y2hc34.pdf - Manchuria doc #3.https://files.catbox.moe/96kjev.pdf - Manchuria doc #5.https://files.catbox.moe/hi1h3m.png - China flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/xfzdpv.png - Croatiahttps://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png - Montenegro.https://files.catbox.moe/tzqmdt.png - Guyana flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/knh9ax.png - Tanganyka flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/pqyhzn.png - Romania re-rework flowchart.https://files.catbox.moe/qsd9cg.png - Germany just nukes Russia in 1963 now, RIP.https://files.catbox.moe/qdwxfw.jpg - Turkey tree leak #1https://files.catbox.moe/0kckpi.jpg - #2https://files.catbox.moe/tdgpxb.png - Iran rework.https://files.catbox.moe/3xbwe8.png - Alegriahttps://files.catbox.moe/48jovf.png - Montenegro.https://files.catbox.moe/wygn37.png - Zollverein mechanic.https://files.catbox.moe/ugfhjb.png - Belarus/Ostland gutting.https://files.catbox.moe/q3e70r.pdf - Sverdlovsk proposal.https://files.catbox.moe/izg02l.png - 6th space race mech rework.https://files.catbox.moe/98hixl.png - Space reworks #97.https://files.catbox.moe/p9kvqs.png - Space reworks #98.
He who reworks the past, erases his future.He who preserves the past, conquers the future.>LEAKED BUILDSDon't let them erase history. Don't let them lie to you that this never existed.2018: https://mega.nz/file/nRhmFShK#rjgJXFH5fh7Y9tfIxtH47YuuOOeJhylhrcJfujCdgcg2021: https://gitlab.com/IllyaTokar/git-days-of-europe2022: https://gitlab.com/retardedsolutions/git-days-of-europe/2023:https://mega.nz/file/kRVSgLRI#-AnpMaq-ymIaLuOdBE_yi0mAf06uP6y3mxuJgEbZlbE - Hotline ManchukuoIllusions End, Penelopes Web, old Germany Branch & Shifting Tides builds taken down by TNO devs.2025:Old US rework branch & Turkey branch taken down by report-spamming TNO jannies.2026:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1JVxm06fw9x0SHcZz6S0arXD4FQ7n-Ael?usp=drive_link - Yippie leakhttps://www.reddit.com/r/NPPfunny/s/aEQA5WYWvq - Leak source, more charts & Mango facts.KF's investigation into the leaks has highlights and additional builds on pages 910, 918 and 920 of the TNO thread, which I cannot link here.>LEAK PACKShttps://mega.nz/folder/A0oVEa5T#4veC7I5QIlLFpBjCGsmHtQ - Assorted TNO documents, old and new-ish.>DEV ROUNDTABLES/MISCPlease leak more of these.https://files.catbox.moe/j8tp21.pdf - December 24 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/6y2nc6.pdf - August 25 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/zo5zhk.pdf - Post-Antarctica 25 RT.https://files.catbox.moe/gilnye.pdf - 25/11/23https://files.catbox.moe/tqxb8j.pdf - 25/12/14https://files.catbox.moe/2hva9t.pdf - 25/12/28https://files.catbox.moe/zppx1f.pdf - Internal Q&A Q1 26.https://files.catbox.moe/lz8pzj.pdf - 26/02/15https://files.catbox.moe/5djcrc.pdf - 26/05/17https://files.catbox.moe/7tvubl.pdf - 28/06/26Stop replying to TNO jannies.Always remember to exercise caution when opening files posted by strangers in the threads.
World record in leaking.https://files.catbox.moe/kfx2w6.pdf The Ordaz Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/quc10b.pdf The Condor Legion and LatAm Fascismhttps://files.catbox.moe/iicybx.pdf Richard Milhous Nixon biohttps://files.catbox.moe/ijvwph.pdf Lacerda Design Documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/3n9lq9.pdf New Granada Lore Compendium (oudated)https://files.catbox.moe/m2crh0.pdf The South American Cold Warhttps://files.catbox.moe/3v5h8h.pdf The Sam Yorty Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/ujfmy7.pdf The Brazilian Revolution Proposalhttps://files.catbox.moe/khieme.pdf The Uruchurtu Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/b3cy0h.pdf The Mena Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/mlr3om.pdf THE PARTITO POPOLARE OF DONAT-CATTINhttps://files.catbox.moe/7202on.pdf PARTITO SOCIALISTA DEI LAVORATORI ITALIANIhttps://files.catbox.moe/jbwej8.pdf THE ITALIAN REPUBLICAN PARTYhttps://files.catbox.moe/3s1a77.pdf The Quadros Development Documenthttps://files.catbox.moe/3mz6de.pdf Sam Yorty Backgroundhttps://files.catbox.moe/4xh95f.pdf The Salinas Lozano Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/jyxbl1.pdf Partito Socialista Italiano - PSIhttps://files.catbox.moe/svv41x.pdf The Madrazo Presidencyhttps://files.catbox.moe/7ltzrg.pdf Poland Redesign Document (dead)https://files.catbox.moe/9nqmlk.pdf The Iberian Warshttps://files.catbox.moe/kmjoww.pdf USA REWORK semi outdatedhttps://files.catbox.moe/ce5ix5.pdf BURYATIA | PROPOSAL oldhttps://files.catbox.moe/s9rx4e.pdf Constitution of the Germanic Reichhttps://files.catbox.moe/yiufrj.pdf ForPol Yippiehttps://files.catbox.moe/ujfmy7.pdf Red Brazilhttps://files.catbox.moe/d1s15g.pdf Vargas Jr 11/24https://files.catbox.moe/zcbaed.pdf Brazil Junta 06/26https://files.catbox.moe/ltcy51.pdf Boliviahttps://files.catbox.moe/z2peku.pdf Peruhttps://files.catbox.moe/py18jn.png Surinamehttps://files.catbox.moe/u2pvhx.png Melanesia Map
Extended OP because we have dozens of new unplayable tags with elaborate flowcharts. Segregating all DV content here to help with character limits. Last thread had nearly 1500 replies so I've most likely missed some of the charts and links in it. If anyone cares about them just reply to this message with Catbox links to all of them and I'll add them in the next bake.Scanned the KF threads for any new leaks and a RA dev wanted this to be posted in the new bake so here you go.https://files.catbox.moe/om9lio.png - DV Rhodesiahttps://files.catbox.moe/0w30la.png - DV East Africahttps://files.catbox.moe/li547o.png - DV Congohttps://files.catbox.moe/4fxdxv.png - DV Ugandahttps://files.catbox.moe/nnubho.png - DV Kenyahttps://files.catbox.moe/66gs4a.png - DV Zanzibarhttps://files.catbox.moe/n7zxyc.png - DV Liberiahttps://files.catbox.moe/xhhu3n.png - DV South Africahttps://files.catbox.moe/uv7i9f.png - DV Niger.https://files.catbox.moe/zzb68p.png - DV Togo.https://files.catbox.moe/ye9081.png - DV Madagascar.https://files.catbox.moe/pnxauw.png - DV Rhodesiahttps://files.catbox.moe/ezsqsa.png - DV Angola.
>TNO purges its Russia lead using faked screenshots to justify it in their gayest op to date.>Screenshots called out from the first reply, definitively proven to be faked within a day.>Dev purged within hours in the first instance ever of TNO leads trusting 4chan.>Purged lead calls it all fake, declares Russia dev dead, no new lead appointed at the time of writing.>Anons mostly seem happy for once since all dev sides are losing and the unpopular reworks aren't happening any more.>TNO reveals that it's copying the international orgs from EU5 for flavor. Looks nice at least?>Ostland officially confirmed to be completely removed and replaced with several skeletons.>TNO:RA manages to get the leaked Italy build from 2022 to work; 3 Duces and several other leaders. More complete than Yippie, all scrapped.>Argentina is reworked from scratch to be a Pakt country, anons have mixed reactions; Some like Fash Argentina, a few miss Peron, others make fun of TNO for for deleting five years of work again.>TNO devs are openly talking about delaying Yippie now; actual delay unconfirmed.>Leaks show that OFN will be able to disband in Yippie as a result of several crises in the 70s.>Leakers reveal that over a dozen subideologies are being removed while a handful are being added/renamed.>/tno/ bullies TNO's head janny into partly reworking BNWO Sweden again.>Token concessions include the 0% completed Himmler invading if they're commies and don't have nukes plus stolen content from other devs.>Anon claims without posting evidence that the English CW is being removed; new lore is that it happens in the 50s. Britain is also said to give its military a larger political role than before. Unvarified.>There were a dozen more DV and LATAM leaks as the tit for tat leak war between the devs intensify.>ToTA somehow steals TNO's drama crown in the last minute depriving the mod of its one advantage.
Reposting the last comment the former Russia lead that was posted in the last thread.Please don't touch the poop on this one and just let these people self destruct on their own if that's what they want to do.
Local /vst/ hero Yugo, pronounced "pedophile-adjacent" by error logMore news at 11
>>2505848NOOOOOOO! NOT YUGO!
>>2505854Error Log just said that because Yugo criticized him for content farming some old pedo stuff.
>>2505848He's completely correct btw.
>>2505886As in Yugo is completely correct*, likgas is genuinely delusional
>>2505848>>2505854>>2505882>>2505886>>2505887Reminder that Likgas AKA ErrorLog is an attention whoring faggot that faked his identity and largely just drama whores for clout.
>>2505834You could put up pastebins with catbox links on them if you want to organise leaks into different categories.
Snca drama from a snca mod from a year ago. He’s sperging so hard in community post geg. Here’s a qoute from one of them since I can’t post images. >i’ll have my informants be sending me in developer chats too. Mango you should watch your developers mouth.
>>2505848“Pedophile-adjacent”Are you fucking serious? It’s genuinely insane how shrill ErrorLogs moralfagging can get
adding this to the snca pile I swear this dude is Mango or his biggest dickridder of all time look up his account on reddit lmfao
>>2505898Got you senpai
>>2505902>1.1 will add merely a fraction of the amount of content Yippee will.While true bringing an end to post industrial revolution civilization as Uncle Ted sounds infinitely more fun than getting a black woman elected in the 70s to cleanse America of its 'innate fascism'.
>>2505906Hey Likgas you dumb faggot I know you're reading this since you F5 this thread and the KF one 24/7. Nigga, you're NEVER laying a finger on Mango or his cronies. We all know this you dumb fag, you'll never do anything against either of them. Your Nudev-glazing video on him where you celebrated Antarctica proves this. Besides:>>2500080You're BFFs with Kateryna. If you're in cahoots with her, how the fuck do you expect us to think you'd put any genuine pressure on the TNO devs? You might as well be an official sweeper for them!
>>2505889this
>>2505906Oh my god he’s powertripping full on lolcow style. He litteraly thinks he’s a mafia boss with shooters. This is some ethan ralph level shit
>>2505925ErrorFag pillstream when
Waiting for Argentina doc instead of boring drama
>>2505926On second thought maybe not like ralph. Ralph is to entertaining and wiggerish. No, lickass is too much of a smug prick and is going to get taken down by his arrogance rather than by being a rage pig What other lolcow acts like a mafia don who tries to get critics taken down? Keffals? Reviewtechusa? The Quartering? Oh i know, Wings007
>>2505834https://mega.nz/folder/Bc8iTIoD#38Lb9bI5iLrEoZ53aoDfbQmy collection of leaked builds including the 2023 ones, 2025 yippie and bormannidk if we still want these around but here they are
this drama shit is so fucking gay, the devs the youtubers the pedophiles and psych vampires need to calm the fuck down.
Any leaks/flowcharts for Nu-Ostland other than the Belarus one that was posted previously?
>>2505948Nothing, I only have a couple names the reichkomisar is karl siegmund litzmann and the leader of estonia at game start is oskar öpik.that’s all I know
>>2505950sorry wrong guy, it’s hjalmar mäe sorry about that
>>2505948All I know is the dad of Viktor Yanukovich (the irl pro russian president of Ukraine) can become belarusian reichsprotektor
>>2505848He was next in the nudevs sights after Frosty.
>>2505989Surprised they didn't do it sooner. Mango in particular hated that guy and he's frequently criticized both Mango's clique and Kateryna. Siccing Likgas on him just a few hours ago makes it painfully obvious that it's another gayop.
>>2505989Arent you the same.guy who faked the frosty screenshots
>>2505996That person was Kateryna. Only question is if he was doing it for himself or as someone's hatchet man and if that's what's happening now too or not.
>>2505998Kateryna sniped JFK too anon
>>2505998I'm just noting the similarity in the "red text on a white background" exposé post
>>2505996Type a few letters in Photoshop and I'm suddenly Kate, wow
>>2506000>>2506002>Why do people suspect a gayop when something is presented like the last gayop?
>>2505925This is nothing. He once threatened another Hoi4 Jewtuber(Feedback gaming) with the fact that he works in law firm and can easily sue him.
Totally not suspicious that we're getting all this attempted shit stirring over someone that's never been involved in drama despite being known in the community for years and also coincidentally openly criticizes the realism clique.
>>2506012>openly criticizes the realism cliqueI've seen people repeat this here as nauseamAre there any examples of him doing that
>>2505925>>2505932He thought he sounded so badass when he wrote this
>>2506014There used to be more back in 2024 when he still cared a lot about Manchuria and the team. Nothing major, he'd just gently point out why the things they wanted to do were poorly thought out. No drama or shouting just an autist pointing out the obvious to really stupid people. There being a lot less of it probably comes from him seemingly being on break for an eternity.
>>2506012I think it's just as simple as him not liking someone going to tota discord to shit talk him. Not everything has to be some kind of convoluted plot
>>2506017Nigga we just had our most convoluted plot to date just the other week in the middle of a nudev civil war.
>>2506018He's not in the game
if anyone is yearning for loc leaks (which is stupid)docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17O-CsveS4QLZZWnkPoImzzUCgvD2inNu9b-Zn2dhpwMa few require perms tho
>>2506021oh yeah you guys are free to try and raze the sheets or wtv, youre welcome
>>2506021>>2506023You realize that Google docs just let's you revert to earlier versions right
>>2506021I'm gonna feed it all to an LLM and there's nothing you can do to stop me
>>2506026Don't torture the poor bot
>>2506021Someone copy this.
America loc tracker
>>2506034Gather all of them and make a collage so we know how much is missing from Yippie and VJ.
>>2506034if thats current that implies they havent got around to ccoding half the presidents yet theres no way theyre dropping anything this year
>>2505830New Manchuria flowchart posted in two previous threads is missinghttps://files.catbox.moe/59hy3c.png
>>2506035Actually I found one that tracks all yippie loc
>>2506041Seems like that massive bump in remaining stuff is just one that moves from all the extra shit they added. Also big oof if even their highly optimistic internal projections say that this shit ain't releasing this year.
>>2506036>that implies they havent got around to coding half the presidents yetYou know loc and code are implemented separately right?
>>2506054He probably doesn't and no it doesn't prove anything but you're fucking mental if you think things are better on the code front. Out of all mods in the world to have the inverse problem of all mods on the Workshop, it's the most GUI minigame heavy one that tries to reinvent the wheel every time? Not seeing it.
>>2506015Yugo cucked out and apologised to Likgas
>>2506060Likgas is such an insufferable fucking asshole. No wonder he gets along with Kate and the others.
>>2506062As much as he's annoying, he's not a retard though. He probably says this shit to keep his fanbase riled up and engaged so he can keep his basedpilled jewtube channel active
>>2506054>You know loc and code are implemented separately right?obviouslybut if some presidents like morrison have 0 events to write loc for that can only mean they havent set up his stuff yet, not to mention writing loc
>>2506060Why would any modder ever even engage with this mentally ill, attention-seeking faggot in the first place
>>25060731. To probably clear his name after being labelled as "pedophile-adjacent" to his thousands of fans.2. They don't. He was banned from the EAW and TFR discord for being an attention whoring dramafag which he publicly complained about in his community posts until he got unbanned.
>>2506075>Thousands of fansHe's just some autist that keeps to himself. I think he just wanted these people to leave him the fuck alone. It's not like he has a fanbase or is that much of a public figure.
>>2506077Likgas literally has connections with modders and jewtubers and constantly uses this as a way to engage in drama. So no, he doesn't just keep it to himself.
>>2506081Oh I thought you meant Yugo having thousands of fans. My bad thanks for clarifying.
Might be the least consequential drama of all time
>>2506087>Likgas exaggerated the fuck out of a tame misunderstanding that could've been resolved within two exchanged sentencesJesus fucking Christ.
>>25060872 things1 - the tota dude being a pedo was an open secret for years at this point, not saying he doesn’t deserve to eat shit and die or get exposed for it, but errorlog didn’t expose fuck all he just resurrected public information about an irrelevant and exiled loser for clout he sure as fuck doesn’t care about exposing pedos if he’s willing to use the label as a general insult against yugo2 - yugo should grow a cock and some balls, I would never apologize to someone comfortable alluding to me being a pedo to thousands of people because I called their youtube channel slopall in all everybody comes out of this a bigger fucking loser than they were before
>>2506021you do realize that the devs can easily private all the links right? Did you even think to archive all the docs before you posted this?
>>2506095Maybe he just wanted to troll and fuck with them. I imagine all their jannies are going to have a headache dealing with this shit.
>>2506093A clout hungry opportunist who does pedo hunting purely for the fame and power it grants him? That’s crazy they should make a movie with a plot like that and cast Robert Pattinson.
>>2506041Wtf happend in October that added 2000 pieces of loc?
>>2506107>>2506042They're likely just the same thousands of pieces from lumping all the updates together because it's thousands of them appearing on the day both screenshots were taken. Guess it's just how that mess is represented in the dedicated US sheet.
>>2506107I think Germany team started requesting events and some SEA stuff
>>2506116No, it's all existing loc in the Germany demo and all the LATAM content that was added. Not saying that they're not requesting more I'm saying that the bump is the merged count.
>>2506041this all looks very wierd. your telling me they wrote over a thousand pieces of loc in a month?
>>2505829... Well this sure didn't work out for these guys.
>>2505945how do you play the builds? like where do you put the files?
>>2506118I mean they have like 80 writers now, it's not completely implausible assuming they're cracking the whip.
>>2506103The jokes write themselves
>>2506127>Just crunch harderSure is going to do wonders for the quality.
>>2506132I don't disagree I'm just explaining the spike
>>2506124you put the files in Documents/Paradox/HOI4/mod folder.Also, the 1.15+ builds you need to rename the build folder with "TNO_dev" to launch.
>>2506139thank you
Also, Since when was the Italy 1.15 build leaked? This is the first time I've seen it.
>>2505848Error Log is a moron so I get it but it's really funny how everyone collectively jumped to Yugo's defense
>>2506143Well yeah he's the only dev that is both known on the board and not an asshole. By contrast nearly everyone hates Likgas.
>>2506041If this is accurate I could see them delaying it until January-February next year. If somehow they are able to "just crunch harder" then maybe I'm optimistic for a December 27th-31st Release.
>>2506167Nigga this has to be implemented too.
>>2506169I don't know anything about how developing HOI4 mods work.
>>2506041From mid september to the start of october, 1,000 locs were able to be completed. It’s mid October as of now and the rest is just the general projection of locs needed. They have about 1 1/2 months to finish the needed locs and that’s not that’s not including the time needed for implementation. Considering that jump from september to the start of october, it’s theoretically possible that they can crunch this out in the next month or so but it’s going to be very hard on the teamBest case scenario yippie releases with a good amount of bugs due to the crunch, that along with a few missing locs Worst case scenario is that they delay another month or two
>>2506179Crack the whip Mango.
>>2506179Another person that has no idea how modding works.
What do we know about the play testing, coding and Gfx side of yippie?
>>2506186Last we got out of testing was the other month which said that they'd started but that nothing worked mechanically.
>>2506186Testing has started, so that means enough has been coded so that tests can beginGFX is lagging behind. Fewer than expected people have signed up to be artists after the recent pushNot everything has been coded in yet and some areas are still under design (the Philippines)
>>2506188Yeah this shit ain't releasing any time soon. And like that other anon said if the early tests came back to say that none of the mechanics worked and if the July build was completely uncooked then I have almost no faith in it mechanically working.
>>2506186
>>2506195"there will be no room for more unnecessary reworks" I fucking hope so
>>2506199... Several dozen tags are being reworked or are being created from reworks. It's already happened. The entire post is a lie.
does this mod ever make any actual progress?
>>2506193lmao the fucking tranny janny demanding that no defeatism is spread. Suffer, nudevs.>>2506205One step forward and two steps back.
>>2506202This is from August. By this point NuArgentina, which I think is the newest rework, was already decided internally (I believe we have that on our records of their roundtables)Afaik, the Baltic shit was already known by this point. I don't recall any change in the last two months, does anyone here?
>>2506205Modern Tordesillas released this year. Yippie is probably going to be released in 2027 or 2028. NuGermany is the thing that is delayed beyond what's acceptable. Does anyone have a comparatible timeframe with that and KR's Internationale rework?
>>2506210You're missing the point. Half the world is in rework hell already. If they added one or no countries doesn't matter. Half the world is still being reworked. The scope creep has already happened and exploded beyond all reason.
>>2506211At least in the case of KR you've had massive released reworks for Germany and Russia not to mention all the China content they've done. While the 3I rework is taking ages it's not like the mod isn't seeing new content. Yippie and VJ being delayed wouldn't be as bad if they actually updated shit elsewhere. And no Antarctica doesn't count.
>>2506213That's fair. I am just glad they realized they fucked up, but you are right that this is too little, too late
>>2506216I don't even think they actually realized their error and course corrected. It's almost guaranteed that they'll bolt on more shit or make more changes to presidents etc.
Manchuria status
>>2506226Uh, one of those asignees left ages ago and is now a Requiem coder. That just tells me this can't have been touched in a while.
Will Mango purge Kateryna next?
>>2506223I don't think so, at least for the US, Mango is the suppreme leader and only he can decide if he wants to change anything, and he seems very determined to do his part and fuck off
>>2506233It's the other way around. Killing off the idea of any Russia dev fucked over Mango's promises from earlier.>>2506234Mr. Replace an entire route over election ass pain.
>>2506234Who do you guys think is the least bad potential successor to Mango? And a feasible one, not someone who's been cockblocked like Yugo.
>>2506237Kateryna. Full accelerationism off a cliff. Most hated guy on the team, can't get along with anyone, highly controversial and spends almost all his time gayopping.
>>2506237Bassist maybe? I don’t see any problem with him besides working on a snca region
Niggas talking about TNO leads like it's a medieval kingdom's law of succession
>>2506235>Mr. Replace an entire route over election ass painWas is the source of that anyways? Like, Kremlinology is funny but it is based on something?Because from what my source said to me, Romney was being done by a dev (Obummer) who then left, and well, "if you move your feet, you lose your seat"
>>2506249Retards in this thread made up some bullshit so it aligns with their sick headcanons? Inconceivable
>>2506237It would've been great if Panzer made a comeback
>>2506249It was around the time when the original Fong leaks happened. Maybe someone has the screenshot saved I seem to have lost it because it was years ago but it was around the time when this first leaked and he was at the height of his TDS asshurt. This also sparked drama with TFO at the time since they were using Romney and the change did screw them over. The exact wording was something to the effect of: "He didn't line up with where we were going narratively." Since this happened around the time when several US presidents were getting reworked to be more evil and sometimes be able to turn into literal fascists the place they were going narratively is usually assumed to be one about blackwashing America which is currently more evil than Germany and does shit like nuking random blacks in Haiti.
>>2506227Yeah, this one looks old asf since it doesn't align with the new flowchart, showing Yuyan/Gu completion instead of Ruan/Gu who similarly take control after the Yasuda Crisis.
>>2506016Sure, but are there any screenshots or smth? Just out of curiosity more than anything else.
What do people think the likelihood of the update coming out this year is? Like 50/50?
>>25062710. Later in 2027 seems probable. It's their most overscoped update ever and they've never hit a deadline before. If it releases this year it'll be a total mess.
From the Info Bank
Haig too
>>2506257I do believe that Mango is literally retarded with his take that the US is already fascist (specially since he seems to believe in the conspiracy theory that Nixon had Reuther killed, so why have him represented as a fascist as well), but even with his mental illness there is nothing in the game that represents that the US is worse than Germany. DC is imperialist yes, but that was there since the Panzer days (reminder that he said that the US is only good because they fight fascists and that the canon had them become the villain of the plot by the 80s)Nuking Haiti is just the poor's man allegar of nuking Vietnam, which is a thing that many wanted to do. And Germany nukes Gorky, so even in that the US isn't alone
>>2506284>VP George Wallace Will they fuck?
>>2506289Oh no he's getting shot again
Bodaybo
>>2506304>Dead tag with everyone associated with its original development gone from the team since several years back
>>2506306Actually a tag made up by FrostyNot even Corn era apparently
>>2506304What even is bodaybo?
>>2506304Pretty clear that Bodaybo is just a puppet tag for Irkutsk to be annexed into it and the Yakut ASSR will play the same role for Sablin
>>2506308It's not. He got that from Scood or possibly one from Pacifica's old crew. The name and the leader name is present in some really old plans. If Frosty did it then he rebooted it without any of the documentation (since all those devs are presumably gone now). It'd be similar to how St. George which leaked earlier has some of the DNA of a really old thing from when Pacifica was lead but is completely reworked other than Men being there.My best guess is that they were trying to recreate the old tags from the few scraps they had. At worst Frosty was a fucking snake that tried to claim the old Moskowien lead's work as his own. In a sense modern TNO comes across as medieval scholars trying to rediscover what the Romans did but are hobbled by their own dark ages.t. Really old former greytide
https://files.catbox.moe/288ywp.pdfSome US space events if anyone wants to read it.https://files.catbox.moe/fr63us.pdfhttps://files.catbox.moe/23bgso.pdfAnd the Shirley Temple Black and JFK focuses respectively, in lieu of flowcharts. The JFK one might be the same as the old outdated one, idc enough to actually check.
Also some in-game focus descriptions.https://files.catbox.moe/wt6pzr.pdf
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https://files.catbox.moe/mtk294.pdfAll the loc trackers for yippie, with one for the entire update and several subtrackers for each region.
Thanks for enabling all of these leaks Kateryna you dumb bitch.
>>2506038Park’s Republic of Manchuria being lost still makes me sad. NuManchuria is so boring
>>2506337How is this
>>2506337>>2506339more interesting than this?
>>2506340More text on a heckin flowchart ≠ it’s more interesting
>>2506340Holy mother of bloat.
how does koreans ruling manchuria make any sense
>>2506343They were one of the five nationalities that made up the concord of manchurian national identity, they was a good number of them both from large scale migration from japanese occupied korea predating the mukden incident, some million total, many of them, especially the later immigrants were japanised functionaries like Park. They were more reliable than chinese but more disposable and numerous than japanese, making perfect middle-managers for manchukuo, often being multilingual and educated while also being good scapegoats for chinese resentment, hence their overrepresentation in the manchukuo police, army and lower level bureaucratic posts. Over time one can imagine they would dominate the ranks of high-ranking managerial posts drawn form 'authentic citizens' of the new nation.
>>2506337If you read through both proposals there really isn’t any changes to parks path in terms of policy and whatnot. only change is that park is much more militaristic and sejima isn’t a puppet master anymore Now katakura and GU (technocrats) are pretty major deviations (objectively worse in gus case) and puje/yuyan isn’t even written about so it could be worse On the plus side, manchuria has a lot more proxies in siberia, mongolia, and north china. So they actually get some traditional hoi4 gameplay instead of just twiddling their thumbs and waiting for a line to go up
One thing I will say about the current (I think?) Japan rework is that an Asanuma path sounds very interesting. It’s a shame that whatever team is on Japan can’t do the concept of a socialist Japanese empire justice, and the rework it’s attached to does not look that interesting. (I know nothing about jap politics so maybe it’s a me issue)
>>2506337the original proposal for park manchuria was a character assassination of both park and sejima. im glad it got removed. And besides, pretty much a lot of new park manchuria is the same as the old park manchuria (as this anon said) >>2506388Its just the awful character assassination has been removed
Does anyone have the Hiram Fong tree?
Holy fuck Yugo keeps cucking himself and submitting himself to Errorcock
>>2506422>4chan’s fav dev is a giant pussy spreading his cheeks for the reek treatmentCan’t make this up, TNOheads stay losing
>>2506422Imagine apologizing for calling out an obvious clout whore and letting him bully you into submission. Nowhere is to be found a set of dick and balls on ms yugo.
Does anyone still care about schorner doc? https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N23ouzZT5SxADMUKTbGTbaf41izLzhQ3SpLFZ2NnQeA/edit?tab=t.0>>2506415https://files.catbox.moe/w75u17.png
>>2506407Portraying sejima and park as people who promote hedonistic degeneracy simply to exploit a nation. Park was a firm nationalist, he wanted his nation to be strong and ran his country like it was an army. Discipline was so strict that you could not grow your hair long or wear a skirt. Yet he was the man portrayed as meaninglessly promoting opium and prostitution so people will forget about the factory conditions Park would NEVER do that. He would tell the people that the factory conditions are a necessary evil so we can build a better future for the manchurian people. He would tell them to work proudly for 14 hours and have managers run the floor like it’s a boot camp because it’s the sacrifices we have to make to save the country from poverty and anglo imperialism
>>2506437Thank you
>>2506437Do you know why Fong only gets one term? Does he get fucked at the RNC?
>>2506443who gives a fuck
>>2506445It’s sad :(
DOES ANYONE HAVE THE SHIRLEY CHRISHOLM TREE?!?!!????1!? I WANT TO CRUSH AMERIKKKA AND KILL WHITEY AS MANGO INTENDED
WHERE IS MY CHRISHOLM TREE WITH MUH GIBBUMS FOCUS IM READY TO BE UNBOUGHT UNBOSSED AND UNBOUND
>>2506447Just go a few replies up
>>2506439100 percent this.Parks Manchuria would not be based on slow fundamental corruption, it would instead be based on pushing society to its limits. Park would expect people to do many sacrifices for the nation, to give their absolute all to save and build the nation. He would also expect the people to not only give it their all but also to be able to overcome all sorts of near impossible political and economic challenges.Thus a park Manchuria would not be based on corruption. It would instead be based on pushing society as much as possible in the name of national salvation. Even if it may break society in the process
>>2506193>less than three months before deadline>hall hasn’t been even been coded yetBAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA holy fuck this mod is a disaster
Realistically, how bad would the Yippee update have to be to lose the support of its fans? It can be a pile of busted, unfinished trash, have horrible on-the-nose writing and countless cut features and they’ll still eat it up just cause it’s got baked-in name rec like a film IP
another sheet leakhttps://files.catbox.moe/16iy4p.pdf
>>2506479can you drop the latest roundtable?
>>2506455That and also molding society into a new manchurian ideal via propaganda and a ruthless secret police. Manchuria doesn’t have a codified culture but has a culture based on diversity. Park would attempt to merge all the cultures into a single manchurian monoculture based on the ideals of japanese pan asianism and modernism That would mean japanizing language, promoting korean and japanese on tv and the press, sidelining chinese characters in favor of kanji/hanja, etc etc
>>2506480I'll see about it
Not to be too off topic but I get a kick out of reading mango’s irl political predictions because they’re so half baked and self defeating, by this logic Sherrod Brown is uber fucked in Ohio which I doubt mango would agree with
>>2506422>>2506423Why do you think he's survived getting purged for so long? He stopped being as outspoken a while back.>>2506437Didn't Messiah Mike of all people make a screenshot leak of this a while back? Anyway thanks.>>2506475Yippie is already unique because it'll be hated by default by a lot of people since it's a soft reboot of the mod and a lot of the changes are polarizing let's say. I think they'll actually have to be pretty good to prevent the decline of the mod to accelerate.
>>2506522What was the catalyst for Yugo shutting up? I’m confused why he submits himself to people when everyone here wishes he’d grow a spine, or maybe that’s just us in a bubble.Also I don’t know how much more unpopular TNO can get a large segment of the people who talk about it here and elsewhere are just a-loggers, and people outside of Reddit where backlash gets scrubbed by mods regularly shit on it like X. It’s gotten worse now that TFR overthrew it in the popularity contest.
>>2506524>YugoI think he just got worn out after being fucked over and strung along by Mango and his ilk for ages.>Unpopular I don't think it being highly unpopular matters all that much. They hate HOI4 and their audience and don't operate like a regular mod. A lot of their remaining fans also don't play the game and just want to see politics they're interested in get shown. The team's going to have to collapse internally because effectively being an invasive species at this point makes them highly resilient even in the face of widespread hate.
>>2506482Holy tradcon Kalergi
>>2505837>Please don't touch the poop on this one and just let these people self destruct on their own if that's what they want to do.aka don't alog.
>>2505828>The Hillary pin turns into a Kamala onekek>>2506548No it just means that you don't interrupt them when they're fucking up. The Baker clearly doesn't mind a-logging in general.
>>2505829I just want the record that it took them maybe two hours to remove a lead over fake screenshots but the evidence that it's completely fake has been out for over a week and they didn't lift a finger to punish the guilty party. Enjoy the leaks, Kateryna.
Tf is yippie? I havent kept up with TNO since Atlantropa got removed
>>2506577Basically a soft reboot of the modReworks America content and extends it to 1977 with a bunch of new presidents and some old facesRework to the first ~3 years of German contentRussian mechanical update and Amur facelift and some new proxies and wars for Russia Complete and total rework for Africa, basically completely unrecognizable from release except for the Italian coloniesAnd a bunch of new skeletons all over the world
>>2506577>>2506579A lot of this is wrong.The Germany stuff is just a demo for the rework that they've been working on for five years but since only Bormann is finishing they're releasing a demo because the tag will break otherwise because of the new content that actually is finished. More to come... Eventually.African content is picrel. Basically you're getting the OTL cold war in Africa where Germany, America and Japan squabble over which African tinpot dictator should align to them.Russia content isn't happening, they purged the lead and destroyed the team over clique bullshit. Their last leak of the loc tracker alone reveals that they're nowhere near finished on loc and them chasing out the guy coding everything isn't helping. The mechanics etc didn't work in the July Git build either and I have no idea how they plan on finishing it after gutting the team.The description of America is correct but it's also worth noting that the NPP is gone and it's mostly just OTL Democrats and Republicans doing historical policies.It's debatable if it's even a reboot of the mod since literally everything's being reworked from scratch. The only thing that is old atp is Russia and only because they destroyed the Russia team several times over.The new skeletons all over the world might actually happen though and the Italian colonies are still there.
>>2506583Amur is still coming in yippie
>>2506584How the fuck do you even rationalize this after they wrecked the team and that shit clearly wasn't finished when the lead was banned over a hoax
>>2506585Would be retarded to discard the Russia portion of the update
>>2506590The guy that was making it is gone you fucking dipshit.
>>2506592Amur and Russia were the most completed things in JulyAssuming development went on between July and October, it's relatively safe to assume it was nearing completionDevs are already on thin fucking ice with yippies release date and announcing they're removing Amur from the update would be suicide (as if they haven't committed suicide already)I don't think lead devs would allow it to go unfinished
>>2506601>>2506326https://files.catbox.moe/mtk294.pdfthey had nearly a hundred pieces of localization for Russia left when they effectively disbanded the Russia team again. None of that's been coded. The guy that was purged was the first person that's put in major work on coding Russia in two years. It's not happening unless they replace the team they just disbanded or delay things even more than they're likely to do already. Why the fuck they couldn't wait with purging the guy until he'd at least finished the job they wanted him to do is beyond me.
>>2506606Coding in loc isn't a particularly demanding job
>>2506615But they got rid of the guy coding it. If they're this far behind AFTER THEY DISBANDED THE TEAM AND PURGED THE LEAD and none of that's coded and that's just the tip of the iceberg then the point is that this shit isn't releasing, stop coping. It would've released if they hadn't purged the Russia team but since the Russia team once again is no more this shit just isn't happening. The chart also shows that when he was purged it wasn't finished either.>Just have someone else do itThey can't without guaranteeing a hefty delay. See why it was stupid to break up the Russia team already?
>>2506619They're probably delaying the update either wayMy point is Amur is coming with yippie
>>2506623Honestly doubt it because the team making it disbanded. It's more likely that it gets released separately later as a stopgap update several months after Yippie whenever that is.
>>2506623Only way I see it coming is if they delay it, if Yippie releases prematurely (aka they rush it to meet their deadline by the end of the year and don’t delay it) you’ll never see that Russia shit. Or they include it and it’s jank and they just say fuck it, could see that too ngl. They might go back and fix it but I highly doubt they’ll want to since Mango is abandoning the mod once Yippie drops and Russia was under someone he hired and they gayopped, so it’s column A or column B whether who replaces him is a rework retard like he is and throws it all away or they just never get to it. What you won’t be seeing if them fixing it post release because Frosty was the only one in ages to do Russia dev and that’s likely not changing especially after the update when eyes on the mod will have drastically fallen.
considering there’s no Russia team and these jokers haven’t even coded fucking Hall yet you can kiss Amur goodbye
I still want to know WHY they wanted to get rid of Frosty and what he did to incite their ire. He had to have pissed off Kat directly since he’s the one that went scorched earth on him.
>>2506631Why are you so fixated on the idea that Amur would be cut from release of all things? Considering that Amur was 95% finished in a months old leaked build, you're far more likely to see something like Yippie releasing with presidents only up to 72 with the next 4 years promised for some future follow-up Yippie 2.0 update. Amur is only part of the update in the first place because it was already close to done and they thought they might as well pad out the release with it.
>>2506639What ayrt is saying is that none of this shit is releasing, retard-kun.
>>2505828Who is that supposed to be on the right
Does anyone have the new Hart and Chep trees?
>>2506636The only theory I've seen so far that makes sense is that he's the Russia lead while Kateryna's hijacked Ukraine, Ostland and Moskowien dev at this point. At least he made the last flowcharts. Kateryna's been making a lot of demands of Russia dev such as disallowing Russia from winning in Karelia which means that he does have a habit of crossing over to Russia dev. If Frosty disagreed on any of that or wanted to revert something you can at least see a motive forming. I have no proof for this but at least it's a credible motive given how vindictive some of these people can be over getting their visions through. I mean what else could it be?
>>2506661The Russia lead that was purged last week.
Can anybody give me a dialectical materialist analysis of the inner workings and relations of the dev team
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>>2506666For fun. Czar was at least was honest about it. Niggerdevs aren't.
>>2506677I doubt it but I also wouldn't put it past Kate.
>>2506639Apparently Amur is on testing phase
>>2506780Well so is Yippie and that was an unplayable dumpster fire according to testers. I think the more important part of that screenshot is the amount of people doomposting than the lying shitbag that purged their friend claiming that everything is fine.
Frosty seemed to be a moderate against some reworks (for example, he was against a Soviet Omsk that was proposed to him), and while unclear if this behaviour would continue in other reworks when the time came, he was a man who actually did shit for onceIt doesn't really matter though, he's gone, whoever is gonna replace him is probably going to churn out more reworks
>>2506844Kateryna will make sure it gets back on track. :)
>>2506855Ima say something a bit controversial, but kat and lam probably do the most amount of work in the mod. Not saying it’s good work but it’s still basically true. You look at jane or pikeman and they haven’t been able to complete anything when it comes to their respective development Speer is basically dead because jane is too focused on making flowcharts for central asian snca. Meanwhile Lam is able to churn out a complete bormann with brand new mechanics and subpaths along with a massive focus tree in the exact same amount of time
>>2506857Do you say this as someone on the dev team
>>2506857Whatever you say Kate
>>2506857I mean neither of them have lives so I'm not shocked that they shit out heaps and heaps of abject garbage but that doesn't change the fact that they're two terminally online morons that make garbage 14 hours a day.
>>2506860just someone who looks at the progress of their respective areas of development Jane has basically done nothing with speer dev for going on 4 years now. Just give the dev to lam or the goring lead and let jane do east asia and china. It’s what they want to do anyways
>>2506869Fuck off Kateryna.
>>2506869DO NOT LET JANE DO EAST ASIAI REPEAT DO NOT LET JANE DO EAST ASIA
>>2506877oh shit forgot about that, yeah just let her do central asia and mongolia. Leave china to someone else yugo maybe
>>2506877Jane became Twitter infamous for it even back when the DV reveal dropped and Twitter was briefly convinced that it was being cut. It got so bad that even Mango had to go out and do damage control over it.
>>2506437Mango shoehorning Kanye references in his work will never get old. I’m going to miss you, mango buddy
>>2506898You and nobody else. Fucking moron is the worst lead in TNO history.
>>2506911I promise you that the next lead will be WAY worse
>>2506911
>>2506583>>2506579Surprised they havent removed Tabby.Is the person who wrote his content or Komi even around anymore?
>>2506923>Surprised they havent removed Tabby.Who's gonna tell him?
Anyone know if George Lincoln Rockwell will have any role to play in Yippie. Or any far right figure at all
>>2506482Indeed, indeed all so to create a unified people with one unified identity, purpose and goal. A new people, a new nation focused on the one shared goal of national salvation and economic development. Even if it must be done so through force (the secret police)Unified together like a corporation. A manchuria .inc
>>2506911In October 2027, when Lamounier gets rid of Warlord Russia you'll look back fondly upon the Mango years.>>2506879If we're wishcasting dev choices then I want the TFO or ANM China devs to replace the dumbass who's in charge of it now considering they've actually made interesting looking stuff for it.
>>2506923Komi lead has been gone for years. Everyone that made content for him is also gone. Only reason Tabby and others aren't reworked yet is because Russia dev has been almost completely dead since 2024.
>>2506934>In October 2027, when Lamounier gets rid of Warlord Russia you'll look back fondly upon the Mango years.No I’ll just say they’re both horrible, next lead could conceivably be worse but that won’t rehabilitate how awful his tenure is and in many ways led to worse things happening to TNO as a result.
>>2506934The tfo guys are basing it off of the internal stuff from tno like the ncpc and whatnot. They even made their manchuria in line with the current iteration (didn’t really change anything but a portrait for park and sejima being there) But yeah I agree, give it to them, they can actually get something done.
>>2506923That was Pacifica. As a rule of thumb, if you see old content in which people are OC's, it was made by her. Nudevs have tried to base their characterization on researchPersonally I would argue that a sane Tabby path could be scary enough, because we are talking about a dude that is a Nazi and wanted his country to be occupied by Germany for three decades out of his self-hatred for being a Jew. But I understand people like him for his memetic factor. I don't vibe with the OC school of content, but different tastesConsensus on Russia is that the warlords wouldn't be a thing if done now (it would be the Russian SSR and a exploration of Soviet politics), but it is too late for that. Mango has clearly told people in GER for example that the priority of the mod have to be the climaxes of the story (the Russo-German war and the Third Sino-Japanese one)
>>2506991>If done today our most popular content would never have been made and it'd just be the USSR lmaoThese people are hopeless.
>>2506619u don't need to be a lead to code in LOC it's literally copy pasting text into a text file a monkey could do it.
>>2507004It's not. You need to actually set up events, focuses, spirits etc so that it can actually appear correctly in the game and the tag's unfinished. Someone's going to have to code in ALL the missing stuff not just put words into a localization file. This wouldn't be so bad if Frosty wasn't the only guy that actually got Russia dev moving in years.
>>2507011that's not LOC coding tho you are describing adding effects for focuses and spirits. The actual actual act of adding in LOC is just putting the words in the localization file. Don't act like adding in an event doesn't take like 5 minutes max if the text is done! The Writing is the roadblock not the coding.
>>2507014>Coding isn't the rose block Ah, so you know absolutely nothing about modding. Gotcha. Either that or you niggers have literally just turned it into a shitty VN without gameplay at this point.
>>2507022You're genuinely retarded
>>2507022Well when the mod lead is someone whose only other claim to fame was on a shitty VN game with no gameplay that’s just to be expected innit?
>>2507024devnigger moment
>>2507024If you don't understand why having something even as basic as a decision category work mechanically takes several times longer than writing the tooltips for them you're adequately explaining why your mod is dying.>>2507025It makes perfect sense yes.
>>2507026Yeah I'm a dev, just not for the tno. I think I know what takes more time considering that I worked on every aspect of modding
>>2506601>Assuming development went on between July and October, it's relatively safe to assume it was nearing completionThat’s a big assumption to make knowing Frosty got shitcanned in early October, meaning there was likely drama in at the very least late September pushing back any potential actual development going on and knowing what we know now that he did get gayoped by Kat means what work he did make there’s a decent chance Kat is chucking out whatever he doesn’t like as we speak
>>2507029Name the mod you work on or stfu devnigger. No balls.
>>2507029Post your mod and tell us what you did or you're a fucking TNO devnigger idea guy/greytide.
>>2507033>>2507034Name's plankton's new order.
>>2507037Post proof retard
>>2507025This VN direction is something that was decided before Mango's tenureGuangdong is a VN, but it's good so it gets a pass
>>2507037No it fucking isn't you lying devnigger cunt. That guy wouldn't come here to defend devniggers.
>>2507039It's not. You actually have to engage with the actual mechanics of the game there. You're mentally ill if you don't understand why Guangdong works while everything made after the hijack is hated.
>>2507039big diff between one element of a game being a VN and the entire game being one
why do i feel like this is just one big bait.
>>2507044Still caring about TNO in 2026 is the real bait.
>>2507038Don't feel like it>>2507040I'm not defending anyone, I'm stating the facts. Gfx takes the most time, then writing and then code. In case of tno it's writing, gfx and code because of how word heavy it is.
>>2507041You don't have to engage with the mechanicsThere's no game over screen in GuangdongNot engaging with mechanics just makes the game boring
>>2507045remember once you are here you are stuck forever
>>2507047>Don't feel like itThen fuck up
>>2507041The Ural demo was more of a visual novel, the reception to it made devs realize they needed to have mechanics
>>2507047>I don't feel like proving that I'm correct Fuck off you lying devnigger.
>>2507022>rose blockI meant for coding events which is what we were talking about dumbass. It takes longer to write and edit an event then just put in fuckingcountry_event = { id = TAG.67 days = 0 }in the completion section of a focus and edit a loc file. That takes 60 fucking seconds. Maybe an extra minute if you want a picture too.
>>2507060You fucking dipshit there's more to making a tag work than firing your bullshit events about trans rights in Antarctica.
>>2507062are you stupid????? That's not what were fucking talking about????? I'm saying that coding LOC isn't hard and that's not what is holding things up? You're fucking agreeing with me retard yes the mechanics are the bottleneck not adding events thank you.
>>2507064It's not what's holding things up and the fact that you think that is insane.
>people who have no insight into the inner workings of TNO development outside of the occasional leaked flowchart or design doc arguing about how code and events work
>>2507071Go away devnigger.
This thread right now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPu47lXZzR8
Looking at the writing document and 99% percent of Amur/Russia loc is written down as being implemented in game
>>2507076PrtSc
>>2507077https://files.catbox.moe/kwd2uu.pdfTop events are requested by a person called pjeroCould be a new Russia dev or something
>west russia is unified by the latest meme addition from requiem >they intervene in my invasion of south urals>i fight them to death hoping for early unification>they collapse for no reason and leave me with unwinnable war and broken borders great
>>2507091tno killer btw
>>2507095Has a submod even killed the main one? Not even KX
>>2506991But that's the main problem with the new approach of TNO. While I fully agree that gross mischaracterisations and excessive black/whitewashing should be avoided (cannibal Mountbatten and other early shit), just mechanically following what the textbooks and wikis say results in the mod feeling incredibly sterile. A game can only hope to succeed if it is popular and entertaining. Wolfenstein is hardly historically accurate, but kicking the rear end of evil Nazi robots Rambo-style makes for a very fun game. If Wolfenstein were completely historically accurate, WJB would be a random American soldier fighting German-aligned French mercenaries in a proxy conflict in Burkina Faso, and while it wouldn't necessarily be boring, it would just be one of the countless "Operators fight enemy operators in third world country" shooters, and would quickly be forgotten.
>>2507078Ah, thank you. Nice.
>>2507078>Early game content requests after the old lead was purgedREWORK TIME>>2507106In general those things only happen if a mod just implodes or the author turns out to be a scammer or something equally drastic. KX, TNOR and TNORA aren't trying to kill the main mods they forked off from anyway. It's more like Panzerstan and Pacificaland broke off from a dysfunctional shithole that didn't represent them. Really in a way it's healthy. Don't like nuTNO? Unsub, go to the other place, and don't bother the nudevs. If they weren't so chronically butthurt all the time they could just treat it as an opportunity to make their side of the community calmer.
>>2507140This doesn't really seem like a reworkJust some flavor events for the Chita-Magadan alliance which in practice already exists in game
>>2507078>The last missing content requested by Frosty is all relating to Kateryna's stomping grounds>He was gayopped and purged by Kateryna while he was working on this content that affected his pet projects
>>2507147Kateryna purged frosty for uhhhhh prompting flavor events related to a russo-finnish proxy which has already been designed
>>2507146Not a full rework I basically think that >>2507030 is right. If we're instantly seeing changes to the early game then I'm going to air on the of pessimism and say that the people running the tag now are throwing out whatever he did that they dislike and replacing it with their own gay shit.
>>2507149Well the purging and gayopping makes absolutely no sense and Kate having a crashout over something impacting her tags is a better explanation than "Kate had a mental breakdown and purged Frosty for fun".
>>2507152The purging makes no sense because neither side wants to publicly reveal all the detailsFrosty mentioning he moderated "a mildly large server back in the day" without further context and kateryna just saying "privacy reasons"
>>2507154Just going to assume that you're a dev doing damage control since these are blatant lies contradicted in the posts in the OP. Frosty did provide additional context: he brought up his experience with moderation as a point of comparison with how TNO was run and said that the way they were doing it was completely unprofessional. Him moderating a server had nothing to do with his ban either and you trying to shift it away from the gayop to that is deranged. It has nothing to do with why he was purged which was over the faked screenshots. "Privacy reasons" and "drama everyone's already seen at this point" is just Kateryna trying to sweep the gayop under the rug. And finally Frosty is also quoting Kateryna's post you're talking about and calling it complete disinformation in the last post of the op. So Frosty seems to be very clear: he was the victim of a gayop, he thinks they're unprofessional and he's calling them out as liars.
>>2507140>If they weren't so chronically butthurt all the time they could just treat it as an opportunity to make their side of the community calmer.This. I can see why people think that the nuTNO seems boring and maybe a bit bland - that's fine, to each their own. But it's truly baffling how big of a drama stream is the nuTNO development. They had the opportunity to just sit tight, do their thing and prepare for whatever backlash they get (because they would, less or more deserved). But no, lol, why would they. >I'm tired, Boss.
>>2507150This is such a small "change" to the early game that can't really be used to argue how they're changing basically finished Amur (this isn't even listed as an Amur change)Why would the head devs allow frosty to revive corns plans if they just wanted to rework it all anyways
>>2507160Actually you're right, I probably misinterpreted his statement mb
>>2507162Like I said I'm jbeing pessimistic. If the days following a purge are being marked with changes to the early game I'm willing to bet that we'll see more of them. It wouldn't be a concern for a normal team but since we're talking about the drama-obsessed TCT devs that just executed their Russia team for no discernable reason I'm not giving these people the benefit of a doubt until they can prove that they can go five minutes without shooting themselves in the foot.
>>2507166You're a schizophrenic living in a parasocial fantasy completely detached from reality btw
>>2507168Yeah OK distrusting people that have proven themselves to make poor decisions time and time again is completely unreasonable. Cope harder.
Hey Pukich34 Kate is also reworking Ostland, Moscow and Ukraine as far as conflicts with Frosty over Russia goes. Since you're writing about it don't leave out those key details.
>>2507193I think you have to provide evidence that these are relevant to the conflict. After all Frosty is a nudev who's completely on board with everything they do if his Caucasus submod is anything to go by.
>>2507196Well it's either them disagreeing on Russia dev issues or Kateryna having a random crashout, framing and banning him over nothing for fun. Those are our options now and we know the official story from the devs is wrong because the screenshots were fake. And obviously Kateryna banning a lead for fun isn't a credible reason for him to go to these lengths.
>>2507200You have to proof that there's a connection between the ostland/Ukraine/moscow rework and frosty's ban. I do not believe there is any. The murmansk is more probable as it was his last loc request and Finnish proxy requires direct collaboration between the russia and german devs where as RK's are completely under reichs control and what they do with them has no impact on Russia. It could be an argument over something trivial which then escalated because Kat is a nasty and argumentative person
>>2507215Sure the evidence is circumstantial but it's still worth mentioning when they're possible leads just like Karelia and the only other explanation is>Kateryna had a mental breakdown and banned the guy over a hoax and everyone's okay with it somehow Which would be nuts even by their standards.
>>2507127I understand that complain, but I think people exaggerate. Like Mexico is one of the tags that is accused of this, but the devs have invented an interventionist Mexico DF in the Caribbean from nothing, that can clash with the US, and Mateos's succesion is open because from day one he wanted Ordaz to succed him. The Aleutean Crisis exist to give Ordaz a fall from grace and allow challengers from the right and leftIn Brazil politicians relevant to the 60s are used (which I would argue it is fair because that was the people involved) but Lott is the starting president because "mm, with Lott being a war-heroe because or his service in the UL during WW2 he might have won the 1960 elections"I think Yippie does a good balance of having iconic presidentiable men like Goldwater, Reagan and RFK, while opening the door to more obscurece politicians like Yorty and BurlónAs for Africa, I can't talk about it because I don't know jackshit about itI would also add that things like the Hall presidency, Red Germany and Bolivia defeating Paraguay are evidence that the team's rule isn't "it has to be realist to be better"
>>2507233Fuck off Mike. No one cares about brazil or mexico and they will never be interesting or iconic
>>2507234So should they just not have content/only have skeleton content? People who are do care and are interested are going to make content for them regardless, which is why they have content in the first place
>>2507243The problem is not in mexico and brazil existing, the problem is that it's boring and soulless wikiscrape just like the rest of your mod.
>>2507234doesn’t mike only play europe?
>>2507245So what would be interesting and iconic brazil and mexico content then?
>>2507254nayrt but basically skip all the demo content and start five years into their planned content without any of the otl copy paste and go straight towards the point where ahistorical options, civil wars etc are on the table alongside the possibility of the PRI coming back. Something for everyone based in the current plans and makes the otl Wiki scrapes the devs love a reward for playing well instead of the unavoidable default. Not what I'd make but I guarantee you that the Mexico content wouldn't be a punchline to a bad joke if you did that. Also since it's already approved content you can't say it's whacky and unacceptable.
>>2507254Nazi Mexico and monarchist Brazi
>>2507260So you're just upset that Mexico doesn't have full 10+ year content? Or you think there shouldn't be build up to things like a civil war in Mexico, you should just be able to to pick the mexican civil war focus in the first year of gameplay like in vanilla?>>2507261How would that happen and what would be interesting or iconic about that and why?
>>2507265>How would that happenI'm not the one making the content, it's your job to figure it out. First you get an idea and then you start thinking about how to make it work. >what would be interesting or iconic about that and whyHigh stakes and the consequences it may have on the world make for more interesting content. Brazil already has a war which could be interesting had they not decided on making it non-canon whatever that means. Mexico could go to war with USA or fund migrants and nazis. I would also put some fetish Blanqueamiento larp for a good measure because that's what nazi mexicans would be probably into.
>>2507276There is no pod in the 30s from which you get a Monarchist Brazil. An Integralist state maybeNazi Mexico has the problem of why the US didn't invade it already (considered they already invaden non-radical Mexico three times in history)
>>2507265You're so fucking dumb that you can barely be considered sentient. No, the demo content being absolute dogshit is the problem. But you can look at the charts they made and see that they aren't just creatively bankrupt Wiki scrapers but actually have some ideas of their own. Instead of having a terrible demo that's just Wiki scraping they couldn've started it at an ahistorical point and had the demo hit a different kind of crescendo. A problem with the demo is that it's pointless and all you do is pick which third world anocrat you want to lord over your shithole. Skip that step, relegate to that story, and give any optional conflict the breathing space it needs in a less dull setting.Again not what I would've made but I'm presenting this as something that could've been done based on the existing ideas of the devs.
>>2507278>Nazi Mexico has the problem of why the US didn't invade it alreadyBecause they just lost WW2 and can't because their armies were beaten and they're eating shit right now. You know, the premise of your mod, remember?
>>2507281The US wasn't beaten because Britain got sealioned and the US peaced out instead of trying to liberate europe solo, the US army is fine that's not the scenario in TNO, just make your own mod where Germany conquered the US at that point if you want that lol
>>2507289Then have them fucking lose the war in the Axis victory mod so that something besides your worthless OTLism can happen you creatively bankrupt devnigger.
>>2507281Guatemala defeated the Mexican army in the 50s, it was a big scandal. Also Woodrow Wilson wanted to fully occupy Mexico if not for WW1. A brown or red Mexico are getting their asses invadedWhich could be a fun narrative, the US having to deal with a local Vietnam at home, with both Socialists and Synarchists hating the American occupation, but I understand if people would get cold feet about that given the level of research it would be necessary + it would have to affect US continental content which Mango doesn't want to
>>2507291Go make your own nazi world domination mod then. TNO has from day one been a cold war mod between the US and Germany as superpowers
>>2507291OTLism is when real political leaders are used, per what you said given that the alternative was making shit up. I'd love to hear why Madrazo reviving the anti-Atheist semi-Socialist PRI of the 30s or Salinas ruining the country with neoliberalism 20 years earlier are examples of OTLismRegardless, I think with the Argentina rework LATAM is on the right place because a fascist Argentina vs a democratic Brazil works best as a central conflict. Mexico's role as a country that can align with either the US or the Sphere, or keep neutrality, works for their situation
>>2507298>It happened IRL therefore it has to happen in TNO unlike the fall of the USSR and BritainFuck off, devnigger.>>2507299>Hey think of a scenario... Oh, no, sorry, but none of your ideas are acceptable because we deliberately designed the scenario so that nothing would ever happen>Sorry looks like only my ideas are approved after allFuck off, devnigger.
>>2507302I'm sorry no one has made your version of TNO where RK Amerika does nothing so you can have heckin based bleach fetish mexico and 'iconic' monarchist brazil lol
>>2507276On the leaked chart that was shared here it was showed that Argentina can lose a war against Brazil/Chile in 74With non-canon wars the devs meant the ones that happen outside of that timeframe
>>2507308Monarchists are the lamest ideologues of them all. It is literally a submission fetish
>>2507308It's so fucking frustrating to talk to you devniggers. Every time we make suggestions you just fall back on everything other than pure, rigid OTLism being unreasonable (except where it isn't) and when we make suggestions like simply saying that America's unable to stop Mexico from joining Germany's side after losing the war you just go into the other extreme and pretend that everything has to be as insane as KX. You people are pathetic and should just have worked on CWIC instead. That's clearly what you're interested in for the most part. Instead we now have this bizarre timeline where the Nazis winning barely caused any changes outside of Europe because most countries just do what they did IRL or something that could realistically be portrayed in CWIC.
>>2507308At that point just make a man in the high castle mod. No point bitching about tno when you already have a well established world and setting built for that purpose >>2507299also japan, don’t forget about the sphere lol (I wish it had more content baka)
>>2507315Not everyone is a dev you schizo your ideas are just dogshit
>>2507320>This support for zero gameplay OTLism is highly organic and it's just a coincidence that it's happening at a time when all the jannies are watching this thread like hawks because of the shit-show of leaks that Kateryna causedOK buddy.
I think a fascist or national labourism Brazil in the OFN could work, but monarchism just doesn’t make sense.
>>2507315Somebody forgot to take their autism pills today.https://files.catbox.moe/mbtjjg.mp4
>>2507384Go away, AI slopper
>>2507384I look like this and say things like that
https://files.catbox.moe/skhaxi.mp4
Frosty and Kateryna requested Estonia events together #wholesome(If any of you are curious, the starting leaders of Estonia, Latvia and Ltthuania are Hjalmar Mäe, Ernests Kreišmanis and Petras Kubulianus respectively)
>>2507315I think part of the issue is that you are writing backwards instead of from the beginning. Now the best approach is doing a mix of the two, but to get a German-aligned Mexico you have to seriously make changes to the semi-socialist Mexican revolution. Mexico didn't recognize Francoist Spain even if they killed leftists at the hundreds at home because they still had to larp anti-fascism. You would need to create a pod that, while being related to WW2, changes thisCalles was a Hitler stan, but he was out of power by 1936. Compare Argentina, in which ForPol was very crutial to 40s politics, with Perón's victory over Perlinger being explained in part because the later lost face with the Axis losing the warI do think that TNO has moved into a more hard althist direction since Panzer's days, and I understand people not liking it, but I can't say I regret the current direction. I am willing to accept the OTList accusations in Africa because I don't know anything to be able to see what's different, and I don't care about the continent either to bother reading about it
>>2507496Isn't it weird how across all the Yippee leaks and whatnot how no one posted anything for nuOstland or Bodaybo? Shouldn't there have been leaks regarding this stuff instead of reworked Japan flowchart #5 or African snca?
>>2507557We got some leaks for it but nothing substantial. I think Kate's moved on to not post these in the regular devcord channels after the Iran leak debacle.
>>2507454trannynocaca
I just remembered that Ostland teaser from 5 years ago. Rest in peace
>>2507607I clicked this and for a whole second I thought that it was actually a teaser for the new one and that something would actually happen there before I realized that it was just the stuff they're deleting. The original plans for Ostland's extended content were crazy with Jeckeln going full Huttig on the region. Shame absolutely nothing came of any of that.
>>2505829Are the other leads just okay with this? Even if Mango or Lamounier greenlit the gayop you'd think that some would be pissed about all the leaks and how public it became.
>>2507622Do people outside of the Discord or the 4chan/kiwi farms even know about it. I haven’t even seen it mentioned on Reddit or by likgas
>>2507629Yeah it's escaped containment. Other teams and fans of mods know about it but as you'd expect most don't care a lot since it's just more drama from these people. They already had a bad rep outside their own community.>The most over moderated Reddit in the world and Mango's doormat aren't talking about itLast places where you'll see it to be honest.
>>2507569>Iran leak debacle qrd?
>>2507657Since nearly everyone on the team hates Kate their Iran rework leaked instantly, people here made fun of it and you can read it in the op. Having everything they make get leaked has made Kate more guarded about their flowcharts.
>>2507454OMGSISA
Can anyone give the mali and senegal charts with the new french invasion path?
>>2507790Fuck off Mike.
>>2507612Imagine looking at this and coming to a conclusion that it's boring and stable autonomous baltic protectorates are more interesting. You don't hate these 'people' enough
>>2507799I wish I'd saved the Jackeln focus tree when I was still on the team. It had over a hundred focuses but all of it got deleted. Piece of shit we'll get now is unplayable and useless. Fuck nudevs.
>>2507799It is not boring, it is just retarded goyslop made for simpletons.
>Kateryna is coping in the thread again
>>2507823It is boring, it's just 10 indistinguishable killpeopleism tags that make submental morons basedface at how edgy and 'cursed' it is. It's slop for youtube superevent compilations.
>Kateryna replying to himself to feel validated
>>2507829Fully agree with this nigga, it's about time we start pushing against the schizopaths lovers who just love any slop if it's schizo and especially if it's far right schizo. Yall have TFR for that now or KX, go play that if you love edgy sloppaths so much.
>>2507829How could 10 burgundian tags be boring? You can play as Pupengruppe Himmelfart and make the whole Ostland a giant concentration camp. Isnt that funny enough?
>>2507842Incredibly asshurt post.
>>2507842Don't bother with him, he's a TNO janny replying to himself because he's bored while stuck monitoring the thread for leaks.
>>2507829Still upset that nobody liked nuking Haiti except for the sake of laughing at how ridiculously hamfisted it is?You people really do think that everything you didn't make is "wacky slop", and seeing the community prefer that to literal Antarctica, island skeletons, and replacing Africa with>Wow! I can't believe it's not OTL!is making you seethe, huh.
>>2507799The height of hoi4 modding is when every country has a 12-sided civil war with all my favourite ideologies, but if the bad ideology wins it becomes 30-sided civil war between the based/cursed versions of the aforementioned ideologies, and so on ad infinitum
>>2507849This but unironically and not typed with gritted teeth because the idea of things happening enrages me
>>2507849You lost the race to 600K against a mod with a 12+-sided civil war lmao
>>2507852>im retarded, but unironicallyOk.
>>2507849Yes.
>>2507857>the retarded ones are the ones who enjoy gameplay in their wargame mod and not the ones trying (poorly) to hack a visual novel into the Clausewitz EngineWe'll be finished reworking by Christmas, amirite? Yippie definitely isn't horrifically overscoped to the point it makes TFR 1.1 look tame.
Should they remove Labour and the Tories from HMMLR because it's just an OTL-ist wikiscrape?
>>2507901Who cares? Britain dev is dead because they brought in a guy from Spartakus to work on it, who promptly purged anyone with talent.
>>2507916Is this real
>>2507901>Completely ahistorical situation of liberating the country in a bloody civil war against the German occupation government>"This is OTL slop too rite? XD"This isn't the gotcha you think it is.>>2507923Yes he worked on a botched mod and is just a dirtbag that's in it for the politics. Britain dev has been completely dead since he took over and that should speak for itself.
>>2507935>Completely ahistorical situation of liberating the country in a bloody civil war against the German occupation governmentIn a world this fucked up, I'm supposed to believe Labour and the Tories are just their otl selves
>>2507901They should implement that old idea about being backed by Himmler.
lol
>TNO purges people and goes into lockdown mode over all their staff only document links leaking
>>2508097Lockdown too really?
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1xbo0ar/one_day_in_dallas_george_wallace_edge_case_in/
>>2508150>Half a year later>It's the same undercooked shit from the Git leakroflmao
>>2508177How is it half cooked
>>2508190No visible developments since before other than the tooltip for what people already deemed to be dumb back when we saw all the placeholder content for it. They're slacking and need to crunch harder t b h.
>>2508195They definitely need to hop on the grind
>>2508177Or maybe the GUI was finished in the git build
I haven't played TNO since the Ukraine update, with the RK's paths. Is it worth coming back today, what have they done since?
>>2508177yo why is freddy fazbear going on a roadtrip with Wallace?
>>2508111I thought tno was in bunker mode
>>2508268They released an Antarctica demo, finished two paths for Brazil and did a facelift for Iberia. They're reworking the entire mod from scratch atm more or less. A Germany demo, the US rework and replacing all of Africa with native run skeletons will release this December according to the devs but the Git leaked back in July and it was completely unfinished then. Since you left there are two reduxes too, Rises Again (original Atlantropa) and Requiem (a Russia centric one without the worst reworks). They're generally preferred on /vst/ over the original mod.>>2508265Look at the post above you. It clearly wasn't. All they did was touch up the placeholders.>>2508276Earlier anon was talking about internal security. Honestly they'd be stupid not to take precautions since all their master documents started leaking out here.
>>2508268Sure, you should try the current version of TNO, before the Yippie reworks. If you liked the RK Ukraine content, a submod was released a year ago that expands the content of the Ukrainian People’s Republic through 1973. Afaik it was recently rebranded as New Years of Global Order. If I’m not mistaken, it includes content for Vorkuta, Yugra, Gayny, the Divine Mandate of Siberia, and even forgotten Qinghai Ma Province, which reminds me of a revival of a long-dead Brave New World submod concept, lol
>Paging Sooty >Paging SootySome corrections on your analysis post.>Kateryna is a Germany devHe's a general Reich dev and is a power hungry one at that. He's reworking Moskowien, Ostland, Iran, Romania, Sweden, Finland and several other tags. He did not like Frosty and since Kateryna is notoriously difficult to work with it's almost guaranteed that there was animosity over the reworks. In fact the last content requests Frosty put in were related to Kateryna's stomping grounds. They're in the Russia master doc that got leaked in the thread. Shortly after that he was purged by Kateryna who's also the moderation lead.Just saying, you're understating the scope of this no lifers reworks and the fact that he's a power tripping janny. He's reworking more tags than any individual on the team and they interacting shortly before the purge that Kateryna pulled the trigger on.>CornHe stepped down as lead before the Spain update I think. Russia was leaderless for a long time until Frosty took over. Development had been functionally dead since 2024 and is now completely dead again. I for one welcome this because that means none of these awful reworks are releasing.Everyone involved in this is a faggot and it's a good thing that they're suffering.
I'm wondering whether they are desperately untangling the code from integration with DV and Reich teaser, hoping to maybe release Yippie in March (and that's a generous prediction) or just biting the bullet and announcing that it will release in 2028 (never).>lol>lmao
>>2508386>He stepped down as lead before the Spain update I think.He stepped down about a year earlier actually, after having done zero work for Russia since about a year before. His “replacement” were your standard reworkers whose grand ambitions were removing the Kazakh civil war. Thankfully neither of them were actually interested in doing any work.
>>2505828In other news TNORA is launching a new update to content for post Huttig collapse
>>2509085DV eternally BTFO by two autistic manchildren.
>>2509085Big Italian Africa...
>>2509085Claude was working overtime for this
>TNO's Frosty purge drama briefly featured on MATI during the Sifu segment>Josh's entire stream audience of several thousands now knows that Mango's a fag and Kat's a troon and a screenshot fakerSooty W.
>>2509104timestamp?
>>2509108Near the end during the Sifu sigment and just before the super chats with the green stream filter. It's really brief and he barely skims it. Sooty or someone must've interrupted him mid-stream and asked him to read it is my guess. It's pretty insignificant by itself other than Mango's Chrisholm shit being called out and that the fake screenshot drama's getting more exposure.
>>2509109Yeah just found it, josh thought it was snca (which it kinda is let’s be real)
>>2509113That and he was made to interrupt the one segment that actually gives him any semblance of joy in life these days. Mango's and Kateryna's ten seconds of KF stream fame I guess.
So, for anyone who doesn't know what these two niggas are talking about (like myself), the whole thing was featured on "Mad at the Internet", some KF associated stream or show or podcast or something, where the host skimmed over one of Sooty's (RA dev) posts for the stream, not caring in the slightest about it (as he should) before going back to whatever he was doing. If you really wanna see it, which I don't know why you would, you can find it on Rumble on the 23rd of October stream at about the 3 hours and seven minutes mark.Don't know why I even bothered with typing this out.
>>2509085MYSTERY NIGGAS
>>2509139>MYSTERY NIGGASMan FUCK yo bone spurs
>>2509138>KF associatedIt's literally the site's owner and admin doing a weekly news show. It's official and one of the most notorious Internet drama shows by virtue of the toxic brand they have.
>>2509148I wouldn't know, as I said before.
Niggas ain’t even begging for flowcharts anymore, the threads basically dead atm shits fucked
>>2509156>Hundreds of posts in a few daysMost actual activity we've had in ages. It'll kick off again whenever there are any developments there.
>>2509156Are there any new flowcharts? Feels like everything has been posted atp
>>2509164I imagine it’s because of the recent leaks they’ve shut down more public channels. Like LATAM dev clearly has stuff, Australia, etc.
>>2509167Abba Kovner leads a revolt in Vilnius during the Kampfzeit
>>2509170>Hey you know this part of Ostland's CW we deleted?>Yeah it's just an event now it doesn't matter>lmao
>>2509170Can you explain what the Walloon riots are and the consequences? And do Speer/Bormann have specific policies for the western conquests?
>>2509174It’s an independent tag that takes over vilnius it’s basically a revolt of all of europes jews (so all 3 of them)
>>2509210So it's an event with some cosmetic effects proving that devniggers will never understand why people play HOI4.
>>2509210Hm... Vilnius you say? Hold on a sec *Checks Wikipedia*>"In the Vilna Ghetto.... His attempt to organize a ghetto uprising failed"Bravo Kateryna. You truly are a creative genius
>>2509220Hm, Hitler leads Germany? Gimme a moment*Checks Wikipedia*>Adolf Hitler... Führer of GermanyBravo Panzer. You're a genius
>>2509394>axis victory mod has Hitler at the startWell yeah obviously it makes sense>axis victory mod lazily cribs basically all of its events from wikipediaBoring, low effort slop. And the stuff they don't pull from Wikipedia is hardly any better, here's looking at you, Kat stealing shit from Suzerain in a way that just seems uninspired, somehow more uninspired than my homebrew fantasy setting that's made of stolen stuff
>>2509394This is not the gotcha you think it is, Kate.
>Sooty>Sooty>SootyYour izzat is wrecked. Your only way to redeem yourself and your izzat is to get Josh to talk about Kateryna's gayop.
Save me Red Italy save me...
New event in RA.
>>2509531why are tno spinoffs obsessed with stale memes
>>2509531Coal
>>2509540>tno spinoffs
>>2509569
>>2509569>>2509570>hell, who else is left?This hits so much now.
Devniggers only cutted onto everything except their reek of preachiness.
>>2509637Funny how 2021 detractors sound exactly like the nudevs. Really makes you think
>>2509661Well yeah nudevs hate the mod so of course they'll sound like detractors.
>>2509661Isn’t this basically the mike cope? That he’s an “old detractor” that hated the whackyness and wanted a good narrative?
>>2509677Mike's cope is that plus the insane idea that there was a 50-50 split in the community between the groups and that there was a huge, widespread disappoinment over the lack of hyper realism. This despite the demos focusing on shit like Huttig in Africa and Lysenko in the Urals. Just shit he made up just like how he made up DV being pro-white propaganda.
This lockdown is really fucking boring someone leak something PLEASE
im not gonna lie us content is my favourite in the mod and if they just make new content for it its gonna be funthough it would be just as good if they did canada / britain / brazil / australia
>>2509899The US content you like has to go, I'm afraid. Because Mango was upset that Trump won an election.
>>2509906Yippie has been in dev since before trump…
>>2509907Trump had just left office about a year before work started. A lot of the TDS seething is going into the Nixon route which is in the Vote Pig design doc linked in the OP. However when Trump was elected in 2024 several paths were reworked such as Chrisholm becoming more prominent, Romney being cut and replaced with someone more evil and several Republican paths randomly being reworked to explicitly be fascist. It really is a big fat mess.
Someone leak something interesting.Please.
>>2509909We have screenshots proving Romney was cut because his designer left. Nixons portrayal is just how the average liberal views him, no tds involved. I can’t speak for Chrisholm and the republicans turning fascist but until I see proof that their original plans didn’t have that than for all Ik that could’ve been the day 1 plan.
>>2509923Thanks for the damage control, dev.
Before 2016, liberals loved NixonTrump changed that
>>2509923The current Nixon portrayal is an evolution of a former submod headed by the current Nixon designer which was being worked on back when there were still plans to salvage the NPP
>>2509969
What about Nixon is portrayed wrong? I remember people here saying that they can't believe the is the "evil path" because in this leaked tree he could do shit like pass healthcareI would like to see actual criticism over the representation of people because I am autistic like that. Like I remember people saying Schaffly was blackwashed, but the FBI report in her said that she was wacko. She believed that Dems were in cahoots with the Soviets to opress the US, and she believed that the Atomic God was a gift from God to the American people that ought to be used more, so she being represted as liberally using them makes sense. I don't see how she isn't accurate to her far-right beliefsShe is presidentiable because she OTL wanted to be an elected positian, but she never managed to do it, finding in activism the last part to influence in society
>>2510164If it is the fascist yeah, I agree that is retarded. I won't defend the nudevs on that because it is a retarded take. I can't accept that belief from a Communist because they want to kill liberals more than fascists, but Mango isn't even one, so he just put that to larpI would have liked an actual fascist path using Ted Walker, but Mango on the topic ages ago said that a fascist path would defeat the point of the New Right, which I kinda understand the perspective that you can't show how X people were evil if you have more evil people, but it is a miss. A fascist US is more plausible than a Socialist being elected and no serious mod ever attempts itI remember people in the Panzer era saying that they were reading Constitutional law to design what Yockey was going to do, it could have been so much kino
>>2510164I honestly wouldn’t mind if the dictator nixon path was a fascist populist instead of a personalist dictator. I do kinda like the idea of america gradually shifting into a fascist state by applying the institutions set up by the new deal to its maximalist extent instead of electing an outright fascist who’s pitch is fascism Fascism as a brand would be politically toxic anyways, even if america was by all definitions fascist, they wouldn’t admit it and just say that they are a true democracy just adapting to the modern world while getting rid of treasonous elements (like political opponents and a very beefed up HUAC) anyways back to nixon. Exploring him as a fascist dictator would be pretty neat imo, nixon was probably the only person in the position to do something like that considering his broad popularity, his authoritarian tendencies, and his very based private opinions
>>2510164Dictator Nixon is a good path because it's funny and you can tell that a lot of bitter seething went into it. It's the only path that everyone seems hyped for. I personally believe it'll be unintentionally based and cool.
>>2510166I wrote a while back my thoughts on Yockey vs Hall and how fun it could be. Link to the discussion:https://arch.b4k.dev/vst/thread/1853188/#1861580>it's been 2 years alreadyI'm tired, boss.
Five (lead dev of TNO requiem) got VOOTED out today
How should we remove a dev?Requiem: Democratic voteTNO: Whatever the shit they did with Frosty
>>2509906i dont mind all new USA content as long as the general mechanics stay the same and theres some funny paths (even if theyre le bad)having success and min-maxxing elections is funthough these days its basically not possible anymore, i hope they at least keep the distinctions within the parties instead of moving to republican / democrat monoliths
>>2510572>>2510579requiem is DONEreworkclique 2 is here to stay
>>2510572>so rather than any kind of crashout or backstabbing or any paranoid affairs that are best put in the mod's storylines instead of happening within the mod team.Five throwing shade at TNO on the way out
>>2510579Difference is Five is still on the team
>>2510572And here’s his replacement
>>2510572>Lead leaves after a vote>His replacement is someone from the same group>Nothing ever happensSeems like a nothingburger. They always had the Pacifica-era system of votes and unless the new guy's been lying to everyone all along I don't think anything drastic is changing especially since the old lead's still a lead dev but focusing on developing his tags instead.>>2510595That's the thing. It's two people that got along trading places and the old lead's still doing his thing. In TNO terms, alarmism over this would be like pretending that the regular TNO team was back to the Panzerite era because Mango traded places with QPQ while remaining US lead. Not exactly the same but you get what I'm saying.
>>2510572>TAS should have never been made he sounds basedi really don't know who thought it would be a good idea to make a new unifier based on 5 years old memei wish requiem would focus on more sensible unifiers like wrrf also whoever is pushing that brezhnev clique meme should be kicked out
>>2510604afaik TaS was sold to the team as being solid as a rock but then they realized that it was the modding version of a Potemkin village. Motherfuckers were lied to, simple as. That's why it happened.
>>2510608integrations are supposed to be relatively easy because you're just working on content that's already done and just tying it into the rest of the mod.But from what it sounds like they had an awful time, and had a shit project and did their best to salvage something from it.Also the new guy in charge sounds generic, but that's not bad considering how many "interesting" people are involved in TNO itself.
>>2510604The funniest things about TaS for me is there is an event where Belozersky has to explain what a zemsky sobor is to KazemBekImagine an event where Haldeman has to explain what the midterms are to Nixon
>>2510170Nixon is a horrible choice for a fascist dictator wydm? Honestly if you really want to make him a dictator the current idea of him just following public opinion works better, even if I'm not a big fan of the idea in the first place. If you want a fascist dictatorship pick an actual fascist to head it, not the very definiton of "American centrist", even if a very paranoid one.
>>2510610That's what I mean. They were probably told that everything was nearly done by the Russians and then found out the hard way that it was all bullshit but that they had to salvage it since they already made an announcement. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.As far the interesting people on TNO... Yeah, I agree, I'll take a generic guy that just wants to get things done over a Mango. That's what most major mods that actually update have and it seems to work out for them.
>>2505828Lead dev of Requiem got booted out by his own team, lmao
>>2510688No he didn't, he's still a lead dev and working on his tags. Scroll up. One of the other veterans just won an election and nothing is majorly changing according to the new lead's statement. It's just like TNO's elections back in the day before Mango got in and abolished them.
what's the point of south america outside of columbia?
>>2510738There's a big cold war going on there between Brazil and Argentina with the superpowers supporting their preferred sidesBrazil (usually) supports liberal democracies in the region, while (Nu)Argentina supports fascist dictatorships all over latin america
>>2510748There is some odd shit in latin america like italy and iberia supporting the colombian government against the fascists who are supported by japan and argentina Mind you italy and iberia are pretty firm argentinian allies who send a ton of free aid and trade
>>2510789It's a little more complex than thatThe old conservatives in Bogota (laureanists) are basically francoists and they're supported by Iberia and GermanyNew Grenada is ideologically fascist and supported by Italy, Japan (who prefers the industrialists in new Grenada) and the condor brigade (international fascist volunteer brigade headquartered in Argentina)Argentina can't exert as much influence in the northern part of south america, so foreign alignments and support get muddled thereArgentina's mostly concerned about it's immediate neighbors in the southern cone
>>2510796Thanks for the clarification. I like that south america and argentina are a fascist hotbed. Both in the political and ideological sense It’s a lot more fun desu, Corporatism and fascism are pretty unique ideologies that didn’t get to flower in our timeline so it’s cool to see it in a latin american context
>>2510823If only Brazil was fascist
>>2510829According to what Mango says, Goulart and the PTB are fascist because they are labourist and coporatist...*sights*
>>2510942Honestly, I am starting to believe that mango, might be a brazillian. Cause that's literally the same rethoric they use against the center/right
Are there any Russians and Ukrainians in the team? Or like Arabs and Israelis? Is there potential for conflict? My soul yearns for some drama
>>2510942>According to what Mango saysHe should kill himself but won't.
>>2511003Nigger we just had the biggest drama in ages with Kate shutting down the Russia team with faked screenshots and the purged guy's friends leaking their internal documents here. The reason why things are calmer now is because they put the devcord on lockdown and got more uptight about their documents.>All other leads are fine with this and no one is being reprimanded
>>2511003Not drama worthy or anything but theres a lebanese-romanian guy (has to be the worst combination known to man) who is so salty about the existence of israel that he calls everything (and i mean EVERYTHING - except of course the arab conquest of the middle east and north africa) settler colonialism. He genuinely believes shit that the confederation of the Rhine was a settler-colonialist project by napoleon and once went on a tirade about how israel selling jaffa oranges is settler colonialism because jaffa oranges were originally palestinianHes harmless and all but i genuinely cant comprehend how people can live with this mindset
>>2511138At least he's upset at something worth being upset at. I get what you're saying and that it's disruptive but at least it's not another fag seething about random Internet drama or normie political parties.
>>2511138I wonder who could be behind this post...
qol shit from the new patch seems to be working fine except a couple of missing loc
wtf i didn't know italy can puppet francewhat happens if the reclamation starts?
>>2511409this is requiem yeah? in old versions it used to be a thing that italy / germany puppet the countries they win in their minigame (hungary, romania, serbia, bulgaria, france)
>>2511519yeah, france had a civil war and the italian aligned breakaway won i've never seen this before, i first played tno shortly before TT, but i still haven't played italy myself
So no content for Russia anytime this decade? 60% of the continent will just remain unplayable?
Didn't notice they re-added natsynd as economy type
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1xhql7n/huli_the_hawaiian_democratic_revolution_in_yippie/
>>2512098>politics politics politics politics politicsThis could(should) have been a TCT mod
>>2512098Do all these new teasers mean the update is coming out soon?
>>2512098Anything except having gameplay that matters I guess.>>2512143>The most overscoped update in HOI4 history might release early, before their best and most optimistic projectionsAre you high?
>>2512123Politics in a Cold War mod? Who could’ve guessed?
>>2512098 Not enough aura and hype momentsI'm bored
>>2512239>gee why would you want to fight wars in a wargame
>>2512239>Nothing ever happens in a wargame?>Who would've guessed?They'll never learn.
>>2512289Gentlemen, you can’t fight here! This is the war room!
>>2512289Hoi4 is a larp gameThe only thing Paradox sells you at this point is larp
>>2512446HOI4 is a Barbarossa simulator and all larp stems from that. What no one has managed to understand yet is why these people that hate the game go through the effort of removing everything about the game and then painstakingly turning it into a worse version of Victoria mixed with TCT when they could just use a different platform and not deal with the mod's original fanbase that now hates them and the absurd effort it takes to reinvent the wheel every time.
>>2512459Haven't played v3 past the tutorial myself but I remember posts about there being no proper warfare, with all combat being abstracted into just a couple buttons, like you select a general and you select a tactic or something and then it's just modifier hogging and dice rolling from that point onward, you can't even see your units on the map nor click and order them around. Isn't that quite literally what troons are trying to achieve with their decision tab wars? Why reinvent crutches when paradox already did it better
>>2512572Vic3 doesn't have focus trees, which are what hoi4 modding is entirely based around
>>2512582I thought there were mission trees like in imperator?
>>2512612It doesn't, and even if it did, EU4/Imperator style mission trees work nothing like national focuses, the former are basically just an optional gameplay guide which can provide some structure and direction to your gameplay where you can get some special rewards for meeting certain thresholds using the ordinary game mechanics. National focuses are themselves the gameplay and the narrative, giving you the rewards you want by just spending mana and some time, with mutually exclusive choices. It makes hoi4 very mechanically bland and basically unworkable as a simulation of any historical simulation, with almost everything resting on the scaffolding of focus trees, very inflexible, but easy to mod and write whatever narrative you want into the game using it.
Taboritsky acheivement in Vicky 3...where is that Russia dev moaning on Xitter how nothing they added (after 2022 or so) is relevant
>>2512828pacifica is on the vic3 team since leaving tno and finally added an achievement about her old contentshes lucky the reworkclique is too lazy to actually work on anything
>>2512828Extremely funny if true. Nothing the nudevs made will ever come close to being as relevant and popular as a schizophrenic man's fanfic about a Jewish Nazi doing killpeopleism over a dead child.
>>2512289I can sympathize with this view, and like KR and other mods do this greatly, but if you want a war game then you don't want to play a Cold War scenario, which its a valid takeI remember people here complaining that they were feeling like CIA bureaucrats and like, yeah? That should be the vibe
>>2512903It's ALT history. Just because OTL period was like that doesn't mean the althist period should be too. And I don't buy the whole M.A.D. excuse, right now at this very moment there are no less than 4 countries with enough nukes to make the planet less habitable than Venus yet somehow there are active military conflicts across the globe? My original post was about that Haiti snorefest, is it really THAT implausible that a war can happen between USA and Germany over Haiti and not immediately escalate into nuke flinging? Do you think that a major war in the Atlantic between the world's two strongest superpowers is less fun and exciting than some literal nobodies getting/not getting elected?And once again I question the wisdom of making a mod that eschews warfare in favor of internal politics in a game that eschews internal politics in favor of warfare. TCT is right there, it has all functionality nuTNO really needs with none that nuTNO doesn't need, and it's fucking easy to mod too, you would be able to actually release an update before someone gets purged and resets all progress. Why are you so intent on using microscopes to hammer nails?
>>2512098Nauru sloppa imagine my shock
>>2512922So tno should just waste several years of development and design to swap over to a completely new game that many would not have experience in? Also the decision to launch for hoi4 was because this was originally a vicky mod that moved over because hoi4 was easier to mod and had focus trees that drove the narrative forward
>>2512957>So tno should just waste several years of development and design to swap over to a completely new game that many would not have experience in?Yes. USA made chuddies.
tct isnt even a game, they might as well move the game to wattpad
>>2512963There's a slightly stronger case to be made for moving it something like the social democracy weimar game, but even then it's retarded, TNO is entirely national focus driven like all hoi4 total conversion mods.
>>2512967youre too obsessed with this visual novel ideatno still lets you influence proxies and have multiple stories run concurrently. those 2 games do not, they run on linear storiesyou could argue making one presidency work along that line but thats not what tno is trying to do
>>2512967Focuses on nuTNO are almost entirely used to deliver text messages and "effects" that just hint at societal development at least outside of Russia. At best, it's a CYOAB in terms of actual depth and you can easily replace the focuses with any other way to deliver text to the player. Using HOI4 as a base for what the mod has become is the stupidest choice ever.>>2512970None of these things really matter though and you might as well replace them with text too given how railroaded many are. If you look at the charts they even have specific outcomes in mind for most wars that are a binary as one's gender. Also no one gives a shit about which African tinpot dictator rules over a patch of land but you'll never understand this.
>>2512971ultimately staring at a map and painting a shithole into your sphere is fun when theres mapmodes for that to see who you controlstaring at text gets old real fast
>>2512971>Also no one gives a shit about which African tinpot dictator rules over a patch of land but you'll never understand this.What if they're a Russian tinpot dictator
>>2512995Thats russophobic af. Russian lives matter.
>>2512995Then we care because Russia is relevant to the events in the mod since they're supposed to fight a huge war in Russia. We also care because it's playable. If Africa was more like Russia in game and operated more like it does in other mods then we'd care about Africa too but the devs are making it all into unplayable otl skeletons so lmao.
>>2512831She's the whole narrative lead of the project. She made it.>>2512858It's real.https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/developer-diary/victoria-3-dev-diary-195-state-and-revolution-update-1-15-changelog.1947390/
bro is getting places nu tno devs are probably quietly seething https://x.com/PDX_Asteraceae/status/2115880585801482605
Interesting things going on with tno RA https://files.catbox.moe/vmt6sj.jpeg
>>2513036Sorry file got compressed, here’s the clean one https://files.catbox.moe/i83l8p.png
>>2513036>>2513037I'd recommend taking Revolutionary Nazism or Proletarian Nationalism from Requiem over Ordosocialism. Ordosocialism has a high chance of becoming a dead ideology that no one outside of Komi hears about. Both of those are meant to be NazBol-like which seems what you're going for. If it's actually meant to be left-leaning, go with National Communism.Not a major critique and more of a nitpick good job most likely getting this out before the nudevs get their Germany demo out.
>>2512957>just waste several years of development and designAre you unironically implying this is not already being done on a regular basis? At least "porting to a different game" would be a valid excuse lmao
>>2513040I’ll bring it up, but I gotta keep it on the down low. They don’t want me leaking this stuff But I just have to let the community see this kino for themselves. After everything the tno devs put us through, We all deserve to know that RA is in good hands
>>2513053Honestly just having it work and be maintained as a time capsule and prevented the nudevs from trying to jealously erase everything made by people that are better than them would've been enough. Adding more on top of this is you guys going the extra mile.
>>2513037Why are the commie guy's glasses so disfigured?
>>2513040Ordosocialism is getting the shaft anyway (once the dev team remembers Russia exists), see the serov rework blurb
>>2513037Not a fan of Kaiser Speer if it just happens for no reason- i would just have him purge the Triumvirate and go full personalist if he recovers, preparing his son for succession. Also fix your Schwab portrait, there are photos of him from the 70s and 80s out there.
>>2513238What relevance does that even have? Rises Again isn't run by devniggers so they're not going to ruin Russian lore for no reason just because the main mod is.
>>2513238Ordosocialism is just National Communism under a different name either way
>>2513425>Spread devnigger lies>Doesn't even know that Ordosocialism has already been rebranded to fascism for no reason other than to accommodate all the cuts they're makingUpdate your firmware.
IF kateryna is a guy and they say their lesbian doesn't that mean their straight but with extra steps?
>>2513037most retarded shit ever appealing to the lowest common denominator. What if we included Schwab from le heckin TFR isn't that a funny reference o algo
>>2513503It's just what a lot of failed guys do when they can't get women.>>2513509If only it was something sophisticated like a Wikiscrape where nothing ever happened.
>>2513509At least it's funny, so already better than literally anything in TrooNO
leak nu-ostland already.
What do you guys think are the odds of us getting an official delay in November? And if you think there’s gonna be a delay, when do you suspect the update will be released, although if you believe the update will come out by the end of December I’d like to hear why you think that.
>>2513663No one on the team seems to believe it is based on the leaks we got. You have Kateryna demanding that people stop posting demoralizing comments but even he should know better despite being a moron. Biggest problem with the update is that even if it gets done it'll be hated by most of the people that originally subscribed to the mod so delaying it for years might actually be the best way to keep the grift going.
>>2505829The fact that Kateryna could do all of this and be so blatant about it and you still have all the leads just be fine with it sums up why they deserve to suffer in each others company.>>2513663Whatever the likely release window is it wasn't helped by them demolishing their Russia team.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1xkazm4/stones_for_the_rampart_the_polish_uprising_in_the/another toooozer
>>2513758Before even opening the image I want to assert that a country in a strategic position, at the crossroad of every existing superpower's interests will have zero combat outside of decision tab, and some "electoral deadlock" is the closest thing to a conflict there'll beNow let's see if I'm wrong
>>2513764How would America or Japan even reach the Poles
>>2513427>Doesn't even know that Ordosocialism has already been rebranded to fascism for no reason other than to accommodate all the cuts they're makingWhat?Ordosocialism has always been either in the Fascist or National Socialist slot
>>2513758>it’s ANOTHER GUI-only war
>>2513758>Rework a tag for several years >Kill and restart the reworks several times >End up just replacing the war that happens during GCW with something that's also ends with Poland being crushed by the same people but now there's a bloated GUI attached
>>2513788He means that it's just going to become a generic ideology the same way they removed many other Russian ideologies.
>>2513809Check the bottom of the image
>>2513818I don't think he counts a war with a predetermined outcome. Also no, deciding who gets to auto win doesn't count, please don't finish writing that sentence.
>>2513818The non-GUI war is predetermined, it's basically a scripted cutscene of Germans steamrolling Poles, the actual war is fought in the decision tabBut credit where credit's due, at least it's not a fucking TCT emulator this time
>>2513758Once again, TNO reworks itself for half a decade only to end up at a worse version of square one.>>2513841The fact that you have to give them credit for something as simple as being more than a few textboxes is bleak.
With all these teasers coming out every week or so do you guys think the update will actually come out by the end of December? Or is this just like them trying to make it seem like work on the update is getting done but in reality it isnt while trip feeding people teasers of shit people don’t care much for anyways. Except the international organizations teaser that was pretty cool.Point is usually when this many teasers come out in a short span of time they usually announce a release date for the update so I’m kind of confused.
>>2513809In what world would Germany vs Poland be anything but an auto-win for Germany?
>>2513878What’s the motive behind releasing these teasers if the update is so far behind in development? To keep there starving fans hyped for some lame ass GUI war in Poland that has zero affect on game out come sense its predetermined to be a German victory every time?
>>2513882GCW Anarchy
>>2513878It’s for sure coming this year or January. The only bottleneck is coding in the Hall content, but other than that they are more than on pace to make it.
>>2513889You are about several years too late for that one.
>>2513882It wouldn't now that they have total plot armor and you removed all difficulties for the tag so you might as well not even have it. If the GCW was a thing then that might be different. But of course, you've removed everything that could possibly make this anything but a railroaded experience where nothing ever happens.>>2513878>>2513893This is like when they talked about Brazil only needing a few pieces of loc for over a year.
>>2513758>>2513903TFR mogged the shit out of you fags with a playable post-apocalyptic American warlord era.
>>2513908Idk about what Brazil stuff got leaked but Yippie has had stuff get leaked that shows they are on pace for a December release (theoretically).
>>2513911Just you wait until Tnokiller mod Tno rises again adds Klaus Schwab and rapes tno in the assholeMango will kill himself out of shame
>>2513921No, it doesn't. The Git content was completely unplayable for the most part.
>>2513878Where did you get such optimism from, talking about a quick update release process that will rework the entire world? If you believe in the theory that the more teasers are published, the closer the update release is, that’s not how it works.I have a clear rationale and explanation: the regular release of teasers doesn’t mean rapid progress on the update. The TNO devs themselves have emphasized that they’re "working" without paying attention to the hype or wasting time on teasers. As for the teasers, they’ve been in the game for a long time- since early summer imo - but they were only recently posted online to create the illusion of progress.Don’t make up unrealistic scenarios-Yippie won’t be released in 2026, or even in January; instead, a delay of several months will be announced.
>>2513928When was that git leak from? Regardless, more recent leaks show they are pretty likely to get done by December.
>>2513947Their entire Git was leaked in July and you're mentally ill if you think they went from having barely anything work after 1964 to finishing everything in a few months. Some of the content they've teased is also unchanged from the Git leak. The driving GUI only had some tooltip changes. I didn't touch the Germany demo build myself but the US branch was a mess and them teasing content that was leaked in the summer a few months later is not a sign of health.
Spongebob mod update is fully functional. All that is left is localization for the events. Expect a big happening soon
Gonna be a nudev advocate for a bit (may Allah kindly forgive me for committing atrocity of this magnitude) and argue that the Polish rebellion being a railroaded cutscene is actually alright because it's not about Poles at all, the real war is the war for influence fought between Wehrmacht and SS, which (hopefully) in the future will affect both German paths and paths of Eastern occupied lands. Poland is like Belgium in vanilla goy4, its sole purpose is to serve as a stepping stone for a country that actually matters. And the rivalry between Wehrmacht and SS can't plausibly be fought as a real proper war so there's a valid excuse for GUI troonery this time
>>2513961I too noticed that it is more about Wehrmacht (Goring) and the SS (Himmler) and influence in the East. If you look at the Moscowien rework chart there is a similar thing with the SS vs SA, I believe there is also something in the Belarus Rework chart about how if Himmler wins he can do plans to Germanize Belarus which is interesting. I wonder how these will affect the decisions Germany can make for the Eastern occupied lands.
>>2513969If Himmler's Germany path ever comes out it will be fun to see his plans for the East if the SS can win in all of the nations in the East. I'm sure it'll be just as cool too do Speers path and have Ukraine and Belarus become a protectorate like the Baltics and have Russia become independent under Oktan or Kaminiski and annex all of the Russian warlords after the 2WRW.
>>2513951Between July and Now how much work do you think has been done?
>>2513974If it took them several years in order to only have 1968 content partly done the most optimistic estimation I can give is that some of the routes are up to 1970 but that seems unlikely given the rough state it was in back then.
to be honest i want yippie to drop so i can play as Brazil and Iberia i enjoy the regional and great powers more than superpowers
>>2513974In one month (September) they made a thousand pieces of loc, out of a total needed of 7,000, so I would say a lot.
>>2514080You're such a gaslit faggot lmao. Do you even understand that even if that was true all the mechanics that were completely fucking broken in that build would have to be made?
>>2514090I’m not sold that the mechanics are broken. Like obviously when the build came out they were but considering that dev screenshot where most of them said they were going to be ready for 2026 I feel like they fixed it. Plus people have said the main bottleneck was loc and we have hard evidence that they have fixed that recently.
>>2514105And also I don’t know when that branch was made. It got leaked in mid 2026 but it could be from before that, especially because Argentina wasn’t in it and we know that they had Argentina’s new skeleton in game around that same time when that guy leaked it for the first time.
>>2514105>>2514107They didn't work in the build and that was leaked by a guy that ragequit the mod dropping what was the latest version at the time. Anyway it's clear from your posts that you don't know how a Git works or what branches are so why should anyone listen to your coping?
>>2514109Even if that really was the most up to date build I still believe they could have made progress on it since then. And as for not knowing how Git works, what do you mean? The branch that got leaked was the main Yippie branch, which I would assume would have the Argentina stuff since that’s part of the Yippie update. Idk why they would have a separate branch just for Argentina.
>>2514122You're coping so hard that you make Mike seem like Mango's biggest a-log holy shit.
>>2514123Is it a crime for a goy to believe
>>2514125yes
>>2514132Fuck you
>>2514145Cope and seethe.
>>2512098At least people on Twitter seem to hate this change.
>>2512098I don't get the goal here, are they just trying to make the mod into an even bigger visual novel than it already is?
>>2514221Xitter completely hates most of their new stuff. Just look at the reaction to DV. It was bad enough to send them into the Mangobunker.>>2514222Yes.
