STARCRAFT IS RETURNINGAs an open-world shooterOn a scale of Over to Over, how Over is it for RTS?
>>2488400RTS exists outside of blizzard
>It ends up being a Valorant clone.The Golden Century of Real Time Strategy is upon us.
>>2488400What makes you think blizzard would make a good RTS game when their latest WC3 campaign is made by dogshit Hive modders and looks like absolute garbage.
>>2488427I don't care whether it's good, I just want large companies to continue making them
In an alternate universe where SC was a bigger deal than WC, they have World of Starcraft, just imagine.
>>2488545I think it would've been mid, SciFi RPGs are difficult
>>2488400>On a scale of Over to Over, how Over is it for RTS?RTS at Blizzard died the day WoW was released and got officially buried with no honors when the superstar team behind SC2 got the boot.If you were expecting these fucks with no RTS development experience and no reason to even try to make a new RTS game, well that's a problem on your end. They will only entertain the idea if SOMEONE ELSE does and succeeds with it first.Same as those remakes of theirs. And Classic WoW. They could only unfuck Overwatch by copying a Chinese game, that's how Over it is for Microsoft-Activision-Blizzard.
But bro, we got female marines in the new STARCRAFT game, I'd say the progressive gesture more than makes up for the fact that the game is set in a different genre!
>>2488491>I just want large companies to continue making themwell go play AOE 2 DE, AOE 3 DE and AOM DE then
>>2488400One look at that screencap and I can already tell it's going to be shit.
>open-world shooter...in what sense?Anyway given how Blizzard seems to be giving up and going back to milk the classics some more I think there's a chance they'll sell a new campaign or two for SC1 and/or SC2 ($40, made by a contracted modder)
If its like natural selection 1 it will be GOAT
>>2489016It's what Blizzard said the new Starcraft will be rather than RTS.
>>2489040yes, i got it. what i mean is that i don't know what that really means.
>>2489016>in what sense?They don't know either, it's just buzzwords for the investors. Probably haven't even started working on the game yet.
>>2488400Can't believe they got Shemar Moore for this
>>2489034You now remember C&C: Renegade
>>2488400>>2489016>>2489084They'll halfass it by making Overwatch with Starcraft skins and bigger maps.>Pick one of several classes from Terran infantry.>Added vehicles to spice it up.>Other players pick Zerg units like in AvP2's multiplayer; high mobility but limited attack options like the Xenomorphs.>Protoss are DLC.>You move in the world from arena to arena like in WoW.It's gonna be shit and they would make more money by releasing another SCII expansion pack.
>>2488400Hold on if its an fps why are you posting on a strategy vidia board?
>>2488407ya but they suck
>>2489257rts franchise
>>2488400What, did they finally release StarCraft: Ghost or something?>>2488545The only good "World of" would have been Diablo.
>>2489366starcraft 2 isn't even good, and has nothing on starcraft 1
>>2488545sounds like planetside 2
>>2488400Blizzard doesn't make games anymore just store fronts for whales. I'd also note I like the idea of this game honestly they couldn't of made a starcraft 3 rts because how retard the ending of starcraft 2 was. I wonder why they turned the Queen of Blades into a higher being made of light.
>>2489802Contrarian levels going off the charts
>>2488572>long range sniper rifle with extra +range talents and stat stacking>maximum achievable range: 93 yardsYeah guns past the flintlock era just don't work with that type of gameplay.
>>2489809>having an opinion is contrarianokay zoomer
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>>2488572I can't think of a single good example. I guess the Fallout franchise. Surely there's more than that?
>2030 releaseodds this get cancelled?
>>2488400>Clear propaganda messaging against US armyhope trump deports them
I have no faith in the current trannies working at Blizzard to produce anything of quality in any genre or media
>>2488400blizzdrones will refuse to play any of the 50 new starcraft and warcraft inspired rts games that come out every goddamn year and when those inevitably flop and Blizzard predictably pivots to actually profitable genres declare the RTS genre dead
>>2489991>2014fuckhow long ago was this fucking games beta
>>2488400They already tried releasing a 3rd person shooter but they cancelled it.
>>2489803...shit, I'd play it
>>2490846yeah like TWENTY YEARS AGO UNC
>>2490002KOTORRogue Traderthe first act of Encased
>>2490406This 100% this.
>>2488400I wouldn't say its over for RTS but I wouldn't expect the faggots at blizzard to make one any time unless its a remake of a videogame before that.
>>2490445>50 new clonesNone have its pathing or it's anythingSc2 is still the king
I’m praying for an Xcom reversal. >tease new Xcom>it’s a gay FPS>betrayal.exe>Xcom: Enemy Unknown from Fraxis announced>Game is awesome and reinvigorates dead franchise>Xcom: the bureau (fps) releases after and maybe 5 people buy it.Hoping same thing happens here, but I doubt it. Wouldn’t be surprised if this shit gets canceled.
>>2492997The Bureau was a third person squad tactics shooter, not an fps. It's also not nearly as bad as the people who didn't play it think it was. I'm not saying it was good, mostly because of the shitty levels (from the "chest-high walls everywhere" school of game design) and dogshit AI for both allies and enemies, but it had some pretty neat aspects as well, including one of my favorite third-act twists inn videogames.
>>2488400They did accurately capture the kind of 80IQ mutts that sign up for the marines in San Diego
>>2493057agreed, it was like bargain bin mass effect and obviously tried riding on that wave, but it just didn't have that same depth. But it wasn't an absolute waste of time, compared to the average release today it would probably be considered great
>>2491108>>2494305>80IQ mutt>a fucking shooterproper honest advertising for once
>>2489016>...in what sense?I can only presume in the Helldivers 2 sense. Setting it during the Dominion and having the mean just be meat under Mengsk's government just screams SUPER EARTH in every way. Personally I'm going to name my character(s) after Civil War soldiers and yell about the Confederacy over the microphone in a thick southern dialect.
>>2488811IIRC there was a neurally resocialized female Confederate marine in the first Starcraft novel. She gets smoked by the Zerg pretty early.
>>2495937>thick southerntautologyheheheh
>>2495938The third novel is about a Confederate marine squad with a female marine lieutenant.They just didn't bother to include sound variations for male/female marines in the game because you know, clarity. Imagine switching between 60000 voice lines where you have nigger marines speaking ebonics, asian marines speaking ching chong, female versions of that, etc
>>2496033I don't think I read that one. Surprised I even remembered Emily Swallow from the first paperback because it's been so long since I read it. Came out in like 2001, but I must have read it in middle school a few years later after finding it in a Waldenbooks. Good novel.
>>2488400Last year I replayed the SC2 campaigns. Overall I liked the Terran campaign in SC2 but everything after that was shit and cartoony. Even the changes to unit rosters in skirmish was stupid. Fucking dune buggies transforming into firebat mechs? The story reads like a teen-fantasy novel. Ignoring the WoWification of SC2, even in the Terran campaign (2010) you can now notice small things. In the story, subtle voice lines, and even some expressions/animations. All are from the same embers, sparked by the fags who would make everything lame and gay down the line, that over time we saw turn into roaring flames that went around, in some gay combo of both incompetence and intentionality, fucking up every gaming franchise we ever loved.(The incompetence and intentionality combo actually seems to fit with their whole mentally ill m.o. of dissonate ideals. Pro-Palestine + LGBT, label everyone a Nazi + hate the Jews, Animal Rights + PETA, etc.)Honestly, I don't think Blizzard has the talent to produce another RTS right now. Hell, just a year ago I had the thought "I hope Blizzard never remembers that StarCraft exists" and here we are. Frankly, I'm glad it's not gonna be an RTS. The genre struggles enough and is being held up almost entirely by AoE2 right now. IF Blizzard gets it's shit together somehow then maybe in another 10 years we'll get a SC3 and it'll actually be SC and not Warcraft/Gaycraft/Goycraft in space.
>SC/BW BNet is almost completely dead as far as custom games goes and outside of a few players on ranked matchmaking ladder>90% of the players are the average obnoxious low-iq spics or brazilians that will trash talk or TK you out of the blue for not serving them like you're an NPCIs there a game that's gone free or f2p that hasn't been ruined by these faggots?
>>2496986WoL was made by the last BW devs, after it was released they all left Blizzard and formed their own studio that eventually shat out Shitgate.It was HotS and LotV that were made by nu-devs.
>>2498427>WoL was made by the last BW devs, after it was released they all left Blizzard and formed their own studio that eventually shat out Shitgate.That is completely and horribly wrong.Literally not a single person who worked on Brood War worked on Shartfart.(((((Tim Morten))))) worked on Legacy of the Void as a producer when the project was months from release.One dude worked on the engine for SC2.The fat retard worked on some of WC3's campaign design which is why Shartfart's campaign was just WC3 human campaign again.
>>2488400Hopefully it gets cancelled like ghost was
>>2503101why hopefully?
>>2488407Such as?>inb4 FotM indie-slop and Relic-slop, who have not made a good, well-put-together game since Homeworld 1.
>>2503248Peak RTS was Dawn of War 1, full stop.
>>2503256https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Dawn_of_Eldar
>>2503237cause its a lame shooter and not a strategy game
>>2503412how do you know its lame? Its not even out yet
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>>2503425its open world by their definition, cant be lamer than thatshooters are only fun when there are claustrophobic curated levels
>>2503259I wish the 1d6chan articles werent so faggy. Some retard went to old articles and made modern jokes.
>>2503427just because its a shooter doesnt mean its going to be shitjust because you personally dont like shooters doesnt mean its going to be shityoure just an obnoxious nigger
>>2503468>just because its a shooter doesnt mean its going to be shit>just because you personally dont like shooters doesnt mean its going to be shitIt’s not going to be shit because it’s a shooter. RTS-to-shooter translations have the potential to be great. See: C&C RenegadeIt’s going to be shit because Blizzard has been shit for many years and has none of the soul of its 90s games leftYou seem a little slow
>>2503474you seem like a subhuman monkey parroting reddit opinionsoverwatch was very popular until they ran it into the ground with their balance decisionsthe shooting was never the problem
>>2503476>”subhuman monkey”, can’t follow elementary logic>”reddit opinions”>overwatch was very popularYup, that’s enough /vst/ for the day.
>>2498571>One dude worked on the engine for SC2.he did one hell of a job
>>2503412If they rob the grave of Helldivers 2 it might be alright. Stratagems in shooter gameplay are cool and calling in Goliath support or shit like that would be neat. The question is whether Blizzard are intelligent enough to actually make good games anymore.
Id care if it was like those alien vs predator old games and you could actually play as the three races and you got completely different gameplay with eachBut no you will be forced to play as a mystery meat lesbian with asthma marine
>>2488407do you have any examples other than age of empires?
>>2505368NTA. Westwood and Relic are the obvious two for big name titles. There are (were) lots of smaller examples as well.
>>2488400Blizzard will never make RTS again since they're a corpo who always chased trends and got buckbroken by DoTA.Also all of the old BW and SC2 devs have left Blizzard and released Shitgate.
>>2491294Sc2 is garbage and I'm never going to pretend or submit that it's not.
>>2490445>nobody plays indieslop and it's your fault
>>2488545I would have actually played it instead of SWG. As it stands, SWG is GOAT and WoW is dog water.
Ik it won't be this, but imagine levels like the amerigo, being a marine walking through some industrial site or space station
>>2489366I'd say the opposite. All those RTSs that tried to copy SC2, itself an inferior product compared to the original Starcraft, flopped for a reason.
>>2503485>overwatch was very popularIt was thoughever, or is this a case of 'we were always at war with Eurasia' headcanon?
>>2509338Probably a delusional TF2 fan seething non-stop for over ten years.
>>2509338”x game was popular” is irrelevant and meaningless as an attempted refutation of the assertion “developer y of game x has lost their way and no longer makes good games”. it doesn’t even attempt to engage with the premise being argued
>>2509455except the argument was that the game will be shit because it's a shooter before the goalpost was moved to b-blizzard doesn't even make good games anymore
>>2488400I watched the clip and it was a nice touch that it was a brax rush and the grim touch is that nobody in that rush was expected to live.
>>2488400It could have some potential if you start as a marine, level up and be promoted to other units like firebat or marauder, and then further use vultures and battleships to own the battlefield.But it's DIE infected blizzard, so it's going to be just some boring shit.
>>2509634>the goalpost was moved to b-blizzard doesn't even make good games anymore“Moving the goalpost” isn’t different people making different arguments, hope this helps
