why are the jewSA overpowered in every game?
Niggas be like>rockvee is the best stratBut personally I always put 1 pathfinder in each rockvee to deal with infantry niggas.
>>2423801>a humvee with 1 (one) marine just casualy passes by
>shit tanks>shit economy>units need to be constantly microed to be effective>wall of heavy anti air that my cuckmanches are somehow breakingUSA is the dogshit faction
Is there ever a reason to use anything other than Search And Destroy?
>>2424230skill issue holy shit
>>2424235Bombardment when using generals power or concentrating fire, hold the line if you know that enemy sent his generals power or used super weapon
>humvee #1pathfinder4 rocket goys>humvee #2ranger with flashbang4 rocket goyshumvee #1 and humvee #2 go inside an assault chinook
>>2424487Vehicles by themselves cannot attack from assault chinook, after loading humvees you still have two more seats for rocket goys
>>2424487>raptors closing in"lil airshow for our fans out there"
What game are you talking about?
>>2424633Command & Conquer: Generals: Zero Hour
>>2423808To be fair, flashbangs from transports are a bit janky due to targeting, ROF, and travel time. You risk trading if the garrison has a lot of rocket dudes.
>>2424633Starcarft 2
>>2423701the sneaky sand niggas are always a nightmare to deal with
>>2423701Love the voice acting in this game.
Be honest, have you *ever* used the Chinook's building cleanse ability aside from being forced by that one prompt in the tutorial level?
>>2425164no, or 1-2 times at best, it's too risky besides looking cool, also because OP pic rel is overrated
>>2424991toxic tractor be like:>hummuummdoisephoiluh
>>2425164You'd get shot down by rockets before the first rope even goes down.Also things I never use:>Toxin tractor spray ability>saboteur>Lotus car hacking>nuke reactor overdrive>ambulance>avenger>Repair general ability
>>2427113>not using avengersholy fuck you are retarded
>>2424633boku no pico
cose in real live they meet
>>2427160Patriots do the job well enough and the other guys barely have any air force anyway.
>>2427664that's not the reason you use them. Having enough of them basically makes your army immune to rockets
>>2424633Age of Mythology
Bunker buster bombs are ready, sir!
>>2427113IIRC the USofA's ambulance is kinda OP in ZeroHour cuz it now can also repair vechicles on the move. BTW, when did you guyz learned that the Chinese napalm using units can make the anthrax pollution go away faster by force-firing on the ground?
>>2428800Didn't know that actually, but does this actualy mean that the Burgerclap Ambulance's detox spray is essentialy just a '"contaminator'" weapon that deals no damage?
>>2427666just spam paladins, get rocket immunity AND also the ability to actually do something other than stand like a retard as you get pummeled by enemy units>>2428784>can also repair vechicles on the moverepair drone
>>2431032only works on gla since they don't have air units. Even against them you should be using avengers anyway since they give a firerate bonus
>>2423801pathfinder is like lategame stuff
Has anyone ever used these? What do they even do?
>>2432038I am pretty sure that's how it works in the original too
>>2432030Power down buildings after a 3 second delayKill garrisonsApparently they can also hurt infantry that stand too near them but I've never seen that.
>>2432030don't they fuck with incoming rockets? Could be useful against rocket buggies since they out range all base defenses.
>>2433749You're thinking of the Chink ECM tank which fucks with rockets, sometimes.
>>2432030Disabling your own Supply Drop Zone to get a free drop instantly
>the most knowledgable person ITT got banned and all of his contribution was axed by jannytroonsThanks for nothing as usual.
behold
>>2427113Ambi is pretty good, the Avenger is one if the best units in the game.
>>2432030They can disable structures, instantly clear garrisons at range, and also kill infantry in an area around them.
>>2423701>GeneralsI don't think they are. All factions have good traits and bad traits, America just excels at certain things.>In generalThe whole "America is great and has high quality awesome units" is probably just a byproduct of reality of America being the most powerful nation and military on earth. Most game developers active today grew up in the afterglow of events like the fall of the USSR, the Gulf War, and the invasion of Iraq and the military technology present at the time along with the overall narrative that their gear was just better across the board. In a pure game design sense, it just makes them work as a good quality over quantity faction in strategy games.Generals America is the best America in any RTS btw.
>>2424633Renegade X: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VHennwBhG8There's so few of us left...
>>2444475the only place america in this game has a clear advantage is in the air. China and GLA both crush them on the ground if used correctly (and have way easier micro)
>>2431032>repair droneare good pincushions for enemy AA and rockets, but not reliable for in-combat repairs. A single Ambi can heal an entire army faster, clears hazards, and is far cheaper.
>>2423701>playing an online quickmatch in C&C Generals: Zero Hour>I'm stealth general, he's china infantry>most of the game is us going back and forth, but I'm mostly on the defensive>I make nub mistakes like taking 10 minutes before going for oil derricks>I get my scud storm up but I have to use it defensively against his invading army>he uses Black Lotus a few times but I destroy/sell my structures before he can take them>I stealth my real buildings and leave my fake ones exposed, he blows up my fake structures with airstrikes>I'm basically resolved to losing, but I'm an annoying chucklefuck so I hold out as long as I can; I'm basically on the defensive>he starts building multiple nukes, I KNOW I'm fucked now>he nukes my base, and I'm basically barely holding on>finally without expecting it, I unlocked the sneak attack which opens a tunnel entrance anywhere on the map>I open a tunnel in the back of his base and sent all my quad cannons, taking out his air force and some power>he makes a counter-offensive, I use my anthrax bomb (I've been without my scud storm for a while now) in my own base to hold back for just a few more minutes>meanwhile I keep pumping out quad cannons>I say "fuck it" and launch another sneak attack in the back of his base>I take out his power, then eat away at his production buildings>I go for his nukes, which are powered down>just as I destroy his last nuke, he surrenders>my entire body surges with adrenaline, and I cannot stay seated>walking around and shaking for five minutes from the adrenaline rushPic related.
>>2423701Contra challenges are so fucking difficult. You have to do everything perfectly. Or maybe I suck at certain factions. I have pulled off all of them a year or two ago with maybe 2 factions but I have no idea which ones. And it was tedious.
>>2445316Tank is the only viable option on hard and even then it's tedious, all the artillery super units need too much babysitting. The Guan Yu when fully spooled up has the best DPS in the game so it can kill armies and trade with enemy super units quickly and without support, has anti air, also your tier 2 isn't made out of paper.I should probably try it with nuke even though it would feel like cock and ball torture, the hadron collider is funny.
>>2445107The RTS shakes are powerful, CoH gives the strongest high for me.>he makes a counter-offensive, I use my anthrax bomb (I've been without my scud storm for a while now) in my own base to hold back for just a few more minutesGenerals games seem to always devolve into these apocalyptic wastelands where both players are barely scraping by waiting for their chance to finally finish off their opponent.
>>2445107GLA shouldn't be beating China if the game lasts longer than 10 minutes. You're lucky you were playing against a retard.
>>2446552An issue of skill
>>2428784just learned today, make sense why the dragon tank has the swathe ability, usually pretty useless
Man, there was a mod that added Europe as a faction and I can't remember it (no, not ROTR, I'm thinking about another one).
>>2432846>after a 3 second delayyou'd be eating a ton of lead by the time that's done
>>2446024I remembered I managed to beat it with stealth on hard.
>>2446024oh, hadron collider got disabled in the generals challenge because fuck you
>>2423701How is it even conceptually possible for a USA player to win against an Air Force player?It is like the devs didn't care about this match-up.
>>2451810Avenger spam. I'd like to see them use their gay PDLs against my beams.
>open tank general challenge speedrun>look inside>bunker 'lix spamvery cool
I still remember a game I played more than 10 years ago. The other player choose Air Force so I picked up Infantry even though I almost never play him. I expected him to change for another general but he didn't.So I just made a Troop Transport (as it is cheaper than making gattlingmen from the barrack), sent them to his ressources point, and he had no answer so I just won.To this day, I still don't understand what he expected.
>>2427113>AvengersOh my science, Jarvis... Wished the lasers also melt inferno cannon and nuke cannon shells and I think in USA 4 - Black Gold, those things really help against the rocket buggy and scud launcher rushes.
>>2423701
>>2424235I like bombardment because the cannon on the strategy center actually shoots kek
>>2432030They eat up space
>>2423701https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1qQcRoS0rg>dozerhunts you
>>2446552>GLA shouldn't be beating China if the game lasts longer than 10 minutes.On the contrary. If China cannot beat GLA in 10-15 Black Markets and Cash Bounty would simply strangle the China once it runs out of supllies.
>>2464815Hackers fucking suck but if it somehow gets to the point where china has a bunch of overlords + ECMs theres nothing GLA can do. Only think that might help is hijacker spam but the gatling turrets will detect and instantly kill them. Buggies won't work either because of the ECMs
>>2464978Rebel Ambush and demobikes for DemoAnthrax Bomb for everyone else.Also ECMs aren't making army fully immune to missiles, they just spread them, which doesn't help overlords because:- Units are clampering on each other in large formations- Overlords are huge
>>2465207propaganda tower nullifies that
>>2423701Problem is how a flashbang can clean a building from all its occupants... it is simply not possible. It should be used to stun the infantry and make them lose their focus when firing, for a while, instead but probably this is a feature not supported by SAGE.
>>2446316I still think about the match I played 10 years ago in CoH where I was about to lose a 22 win streak.>Playing USF, map is Crossing in the Woods>On the backfoot for most of the game, haven't really lost any squads but kept running into machine gun after machine gun>Mismicro my utility car, get stuck in front of an MG42 instead of behind it, goes down before I can correct>Boxed in at my base, desperately build a mortar team just to try to push out a bit>Bleeding points and troops like mad, but I've made a little progress and secured the northwest edge of the map, got some fuel and slowed my victory point loss some>Know that my opponent's had fuel for an extended period of time and will likely have a ton of tanks coming out, call out my Easy 8 as a last ditch effort for staying in the game>Sure enough, Panzer IVs come out>Sacrifice rifle squads to snare them and grenade AT guns, kill two P4s with the E8 but take massive infantry losses>Panther comes out, I am truly and royally fucked now since the E8 doesn't have the penetration to reliably fight it at long range and it out tanks me at short>Pull back to base, E8 at half HP, Panther following>Two RET squads left, both shot to shit, tell them to grab bazookas so I can throw every last ounce of force at the enemy tank>It crashes through the treeline but its turret is facing the wrong way, has to slowly turn to shoot while my E8 immediately gets a shot off>Bazookas lay into the tank, half the shots bounce but the sheer volume of fire is punching through>Other guy hesitates, he really wants to finish off that E8 because he knows I can't build another, but his Panther is taking a ton of damage>Rolls back a bit, still can't decide, E8 and Panther trade shots>E8 had a tiny amount of repairs done to it, enabling it to survive one more Panther hit>Bazookas sap a bit more HP, E8 gets a penetrating hit, Panther explodesGuy lost his mind at that point, threw another P4 at me and gave up.
>>2423701Dont know about every game but for CnC Generals and its expansion specifically it came out right when the global war on terror was still in its early years and at the time america still had a respectable image on the world stage and were still seen as "the good guys" so they got all sorts of flashy equipment and upgrades in the game.Although to be fair its the Chinese who are the final victors in the zero hour expansion so there is a bit of prediction thats true to reality there.
>>2479061>there is a bit of prediction thats true to reality thereMurrica is crushing their enemies while China is doing nothing but crashing their own ships into each other while scrambling to find oil.
>>2479061Early in the 2000s the US was embarking on an extremely ambitious modernization program that envisioned their whole military transforming into a high-tech, light force that could be transported anywhere in the world in hours and a lot of games from that era speculated what the realization of that modernization would look like.When the whole thing didn't pan out it left the modern US military stuck with rusting out cold war hardware while increasingly bloated and preoponderant special forces and CIA """paramilitary""" monopolized the resources for modern equipment and electronics.The ongoing humiliation ritual in the strait is just symptomatic of that failed modernization push and the resulting pivot towards specialist world police forces that were useful during the GWOT or for kidnapping banana republic dictators but are completely irrelevant in a shooting war against a state-level adversary.
>>2479288>>2479288>ongoing humiliation ritual in the straitThe one where the Americans built an airbase and command center inside Iran without them even noticing until after they left? The one where they are effortlessly blockading the country with minimal effort and nobody can lift a finger to stop them despite all the drones and missiles Iran has used? The one where America lost fewer planes than in the Iraq wars in 6 months despite Iran being far above the level Iraq was ever at?China is depicted in Generals as an unstoppable rampaging war machine that nukes and burns terrorists alive when in reality they have done absolutely nothing besides bullying their weaker neighbors (and largely failing at that, too), yet here we are.
Would you play a TFR-themed mod for Generals?
>>2480572The guys youre responding to are part of the troll farms. They dont care about how the world works. But thank you for trying.
>>2480632>>2480572>>2479143LOL look out folks we got a couple of true believers over here. You are right anons. America is still an unstoppable juggernaut that is respected the world over. You have the best economy, the best technology, the best Healthcare, the best military, and the best most competent leaders. You have literally never done anything wrong and have always been on the right side of history. The rest of the world is seething in envy that they cant measure up to even 1/10th of your greatness.
>>2480830/pol/ melty
>>2479061There's also the whole thing with GLA and ISIS. The non-state Islamofascist factions formed to become a conventional military force, as GLA did in the game.
>>2480879he's right tho>>2482524yeah the axis of resistance is very GLA-like with Iran on top and with better tech funnily enough. Hell, hezzbollah alone basically control Lebanon. also at that time drones were seen as peak expensive high tech and now we have monthly fpv compilations from several very different armies
>>2483183>he's rightyeah and the sky is green
>>2423801>5 pathfinders in a humveeSure it's complete overkill, but it's so much fun to just ride across tha maop and see every infantry unit immediately die within range.
>>2483260why do rts devs hate infantry so much?
>>2483353> cheap so they must be weak or at least the same amount of money invested on a tank should also be the minimum to make enough of them to take on one.But CnCG is one of the games that actually do put a lot of love on infantry compared to other games. Empire Earth is ruthless and makes infantry useless for example.
>>2484065Cheap is only ever really true of the basic rifleman units which aren't effective against anything but other infantry. Rocket troopers that can actually threated vehicles are more expensive and specialist infantry units can cost as much as tanks while they die to ubiquitous anti-infantry weapons just as quickly. Infantry are kinda glass cannons and the main advantage is that you can pack them denser just by having a smaller model (but they will die to AoE) or by garrison mechanics that also compensates for that weakness to an extent.Still, a full rockvee is like 2.5 crusaders.
>best anti air units in the game >best tanks in the game>heaviest and most destructive lategame units>absolutely insane firerate artillery that can't be jammed, intercepted or shot down>easiest economy to set up in the game>structure that gives them their best units can withstand a direct hit from a nuke>best helicopters in the game >loads of offense-based powers and abilities that call in free vehicles or infantry>tesla bullshit rapes anything on the ground
>>2489108yes (they're unplayable dogshit btw)
>>2492498Just like real life
>>2493546Nah, Russia is the weakest faction that can be raped by basic AA units with the exception of USA and mirror
>>2493592they're basically an improvement on the china tank general (who was the shittiest general by far in the original game) so it's hardly shocking
>>2445107>>I stealth my real buildings and leave my fake ones exposed, he blows up my fake structures with airstrikeswhat kind of early developmental disorder do you need to have to see yourself fighting against a stealth focused enemy and STILL waste any weapon on things you can see?
>>2424487you have to load troops into chinook as well to have the game fire from vehicles too
>>2427113>nigga doesn't use avengers or ambosoh no no no
>>2432030they are the only way for USA to steal armies
>>2423801>But personally I always put 1 pathfinder in each rockvee to deal with infantry niggas.
